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Is Omicron mild or should we worry, here’s what data & science from South Africa & UK tells us
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2022
- #CutTheClutter #Omicron #SouthAfrica
Omicron cases have started rising throughout the country. But should we be worried, how does it fare in comparison to the delta variant, what is the hospitalization rate & what is the fatality rate? In Episode 911 of CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta brings out the data from studies conducted in South Africa's Gauteng and the UK about the Omicron variant
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Commenting again.
France is going into national polls in April. So please do a CTC episode on the current developments in French politics.
Very tasty topic
@@venkatkrishnamurthy3454 😆👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@@venkatkrishnamurthy3454 wow man u hve an epic sense of humour!!
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I wish they had included a list for serious hospitalisation and death percentages for only fully vaccinated people
They aren't going to include shit because it helps in keeping up with panic
Please bear in mind omnicron has wiped out the other variants. Everyone will get a cold basically at season changes. Many who went to hospital and tested positive were incidental. Stay in hospital around 3 days
Shekhar, it would be great to hear from you in a CTC about how this pandemic has impacted our education system, starting from primary / secondary to undergraduate and beyond. I don't find a rationale behind closing schools as a first point when govt reacts to a upsurge of covid infection. A vast majority of Indian students do not have access to internet and edge device (laptop or desktop computer), schools and colleges are not equipped with devices to conduct virtual classes. Science and engineering education just cannot happen without laboratory. Obesity is another problem as kids are confined within the house. Why have bureaucrats and politicians shown no concern about the learning and education? Pubs, malls and restaurants are open, whereas schools are closed for a very long time now. Is government concerned only about the tax revenue, nothing else?
Our education system is geared to make kids ready for the economy and to add value to the economy. The risks of COVID spreading rapidly through school is more dangerous than a year of remote learning imo.
The answer to the last question is yes undoubtedly. They're to lazy to make any policy regarding students. Shutting down educational institutions is not because of concern but because of ignorance.
It's so clear you have explained it so well👍
Even after being in home my kids got covid
HELLO from South Africa. Many test sites closed. Only one third of population of 60 000 000 is fully vaccinated. We are now at 80% immunity. Yesterday 25 deaths in total. We have been told to test only if symptoms severe otherwise stay at home take over the counter meds and sleep it off. Done and dusted in 5 days. Peace my fellow humans.
Omicron is extremely mild. I had it and recovered in a few days. I only experienced mild cold-like symptoms.
Congrtzz
i have it right now, self quarentining but its very mild
"This virus loves beating overconfidence ", that's the conclusion. So, whether Beta, Delta, Omnicron, or a newer version please let's follow the instructions from health departments. Wear masks and follow the social distancing practices.
One factor that affects these data that SG missed was higher threshold of doctors and patients to get admitted. In first wave the usual policy was to admit every positive case even the one without symptoms.. Where as if you see now around you a lot of people with symptoms are in home isolation.
Park Street Kolkata was a massive Christmas party and today we have almost every home down with covid.
Omicron summary: Much more infectious, much more mild, causes few deaths, but can still overwhelm hospital system due to high base/spread of virus. India has an advantage this time - sero positivity is high due to exposure to virus or vaccination. But still Omicron cannot be taken lightly. If only these political rallies and big gatherings could be banned. Remember Bengal and Kumbh before Delta?
Please dont forget kerala elections and "farmer" protests either.... Or is this virus "secular"?
@@surajs5913 Farmers' protest was nowhere near the scale of 20k people in a rally and 3.2 million people taking a dip in the same river in the same week and going back to their respective states. As for Kerala election, fair point :)
@@karthikravichandran4 so the largest human protest in recorded modern history of Independent India had no impact on the national pandemic response?
I am an imaginative person, but i do not possess your level of imagination!
@@surajs5913 I never said it had zero impact. But not a fraction of the impact generated by Kumbh and the huge rallies by all political parties. That includes Trinamool, Congress, Left and of course the BJP. Remember the Delta variant likely has its origins in Bengal and is responsible for the destruction of the second wave.
@@karthikravichandran4 if you never said it had zero impact, can you now tell what impact it qctually had?
Citing actual recorded data would be appreciated, given our differences in political leanings...
Enough fear psychosis has been generated regarding the new variant.
But at the same time people should do the necessary in following Covid appropriate behavior
Should we not attend Political rally..
I love seeing Modi ji live..
Even doctor flout COVID protocol. Look at the recent IMA convention in Patna. That’s a bad precedent.
@@ssd7853 Modiji ko dekhe bina andh bhakt khana bhi nhi khate
@@ssd7853 you love Modi ji and that's wonderful
But does Modi ji love you?
@@parth6115 ❤️❤️
Tired of all this 🥺
We could be having an amazing cuttheclutter on Punjab elections now 💗😓
Sir, u are a Data Scientist in todays burgling media.....Data fights the Corona better than anything else, Case Study Based approach of this Episode was Fantastic !!!
Sorry Sir. Beg to differ on few aspects.
Delta strain was 10 times less infective. India had much more strict lockdown during May June. In spite of all that precautions, we ended up with serology prevalence of 70 plus in Aug. I
We can keep harping on preventive measures all we want. The truth is, a 70 times more infective strain will reach everyone. Lets pray we escape serious consequences.
with your mentality of doing nothing ... people better start thinking of heaven and hail! Because the death numbers are going to be higher than 2nd wave even if the fraction is less
@@gamingmamba1547 Yes
Thank You for the detailed research and putting it across in the simplistic way possible. I am sure many viewers will agree, posts like these not only helps declutter the confusion created but also save alot of lives by helping us take well informed and mature decisions at our level. God Bless the team at ThePrint.
Excellent presentation of data and analysis. I wish when you talk about an individual figure in a sheet/chart of numbers, a visual pointer (like a cursor) indicating the specific number is shown, it will really make it easy to follow your narration.
Wonderful class you've taken today. Thank you.
Great job in reading the data. One thing you need to consider is that the % of people dead is based on people who were hospitalized. When you say you can be 1 out of the 5 people who died - please understand this: In the Omicron variant period, there were 258 deaths out of 133K infections. That is roughly 2 in a 1000 positively identified case - or 0.2%. In the case of Delta, this was 1107/33K = 3%, and for Beta, this number is 1,892/41K ~= 4%. So, Omicron is roughly 15 times less deadly than Delta and 20 times less deadly that Beta.
Also, consider this: The true number of infections is under-reported significantly because we know we don't identify every infection. Only those that are tested get identified. So, there are a number of untested infections too. Given Omicron is much milder, the chances of people showing symptoms are also much less which reduces the chance of people testing and turning positive. For all we know, we may be identifying only 1 in every 20 infections. So, the true infection fatality rate during this period is probably around 1/20th of 0.2% or 0.01%.
Thanks SG for the great episode. Apt CTC episode number as well.😀
Please try to upload it by 10 or 10.30 as I mostly watch it before sleeping 😅😅
The spurt in COVID cases seem to be from Delta varient. The cases had gone down to below 7000 cases but suddenly now its more than 40,000. The Omicron portion is still about 2000. Nobody's talking about the rise of Delta varient inspite of extensive vaccination. Not a single channel including you are talking about this crucial issue. This is the point that needs study and explaination at the earliest.
the surges are because of omicron only but as genome sequencing takes time so maximum omicron cases remains undetected... thats why omicron cases counting shows 2000 but in reality it is the actual reason behind third wave..
Shekhar Ji. This is international level analysis provided to the layman. Thanks for such awesome journalism.
Now this is what should and must be called A True Journalism.
Not like main stream media
Dekhiye Corona ka Aatank
Kya corona mar dalega.....jaan ne ke liye dekhiye
who are also at the loudest voice all the time, gives me hypertension.
Happy new year The Print team . Keep informing
Excellent analysis as usual Thanks SG
I wish Covid videos would stop using stock footage of people getting their noses poked as filler. It's uncomfortable to watch and adds no information whatsoever.
Exactly
Hi Shekhar
Here is wishing you a very happy new year; I am still waiting for a response from you, it would be my fan moment :)
Some feedback for today's CTC and in general when you de-clutter scientific papers (I am from medical industry and hence know bit about these papers, I am not from clinician world though).
1. You could have connected the fact that Omicron does not need supplemental Oxygen because it attacks upper respiratory track as suppose to main lungs. You mentioned both but did not co-relate them. It is very important "why" of Omicron being mild.
2. In general when you do scientific papers or scientific CTC, you use lot of data. I mean you spend more time on spelling out data as suppose to analysis of that data. Your audience can go back and look at data, its the declutter through analysis that is we enjoy. Sandhya Ramesh does wonderful job of this. Also, you may want to consider using your own animation to do such de-cluttering and not copy the charts from studies. This is little investment that you may want to consider as simplification animation is specialized job.
These are my 2 cents. Hope you don't mind giving constructive feedback.
regards
Rakesh (Ireland)
For a virus 'naive'/non vaccinated person, SG used the word 'innocent' & it gave me a silent chuckle. 🙃😏
Any thoughts on Molnupiravir drug ? Safe to use ? ICMR has raised some serious doubts on it
People should be careful to themselves they cannot blame anyone.Thank you sekar sir for bringing out such analysis.
My day usually ends with shekhar ji's voice evryday! 😍
Lullaby 😉 for many of us.
Now that you have heard him,
Good Night 😴 !
Sir the link below video for UK health update is the same as the South Africa Lancet Study, pls Update the correct Link.
Very informative, SG. 👍
I'm thinking how many journalists bring so much data in their analysis and reports... Even if it is publicly available data.
Your talk helps to understand the situation better
Like ur new attire .. v similar to Saurabh Dwivedi from Lallantop 😊 thank you for everything
Brilliant.. Thank you!
Such in-depth research and analysis!!!
Superb SGji and your stellar team...like a Journal presentation in a Medical College
So he qualifies for an MBBS degree.
Stay safe Shekhar
27:18 for those who dont have time.
One of the most logical analysis of omicron. Maybe you can use this platform to remind viewers to wear a mask, get tested and not get complacent.
That’s an Himalayan task. Complacency would increase with these findings that Omicron doesn’t result in high fatalities.
Complacency has been around since day 1. There are multiple over the counter medicines and health supplements with published, peer reviewed studies behind them to prevent serious illness from Covid. Few people wish to learn.
is there any relavance of the episode number with the content.. the coincidence is awsome!
Excellent coverage..
Great work mr gupta
A good episode based solidly on facts. Thanks also for the Gauteng trivia. Also, it should be concomitant and not concominant. People learn from CTC, so posting this in all humility. 🙂 I hope this is not perceived incorrectly.
Nicely put together. Thank you.
But there seems to be confusion between Delta & Beta numbers.
Lets say 100 are admitted with delta and 48 would need oxygen, if Omicron was 3x 300 would get admitted and 57 would need oxygen considering only 19% would need oxygen. Also how do we handle 3x patients? Am I missing something.
Well if they are not severe, home isolation and medication should be enough
Herd fucking immunity. Next 3 weeks gonna tough after forget about covid.
@@vaibhavkushwaha8834 I'm talking of only those 19% who would need oxygen.
@@lazibonzs let's hope government is prepared for that.
@@vaibhavkushwaha8834 I hope too, but I'm sure they have not. All the politicians are busy politicking.
India can see 2 - 3 million cases a day if enough testing is done.
Govt have not opened booster dose for all or people with critical illnesses over 18 years old.
Govt have not been able to streamline vaccine production especially in case of Covaxin even after 20 months into pandemic.
Healthcare Infrastructure in India is pathetic. Enough doctors, Specialists, Hospital beds, Nurses and support staff is not available.
Covid hospitalisation has been quite expensive and unaffordable for over 90% Indians. People are afraid to go to doctors, hospitals due to high cost of medical tests, medicines and overall treatment.
No country can claim they have managed covid better. Stop your pessimism and start doing something with what you have.
Good talk Shekhar G
Thanks sir for this great analysis. Always a big fan of you.
Excellent...and thank you! This is the 2nd video I've seen. I just want to say keep it more precise and upto the mark only. I felt too many words or sentence to convey a message. This suggestion is just to make it better. Kindly think over it.
Im so and still bumped out that i missed the chance to meet u in shillong while u were here for the festival. Still will not give up hope to finally shake your hand... Sir.👨🍳
May God bless Gupta Ji with good health and happiness.
You pronounce Gauteng like a South African. Nice.
Thx sir ❤️
Where is that powder invented by DRDO that stops the replication of viruses in our bodies? Why is it not making any headlines?
One of my PhD thesis examiner was from South Africa. 😁
Please only cover peer reviewed studies
Even though Omicron virus is comparatively less harmful than Delta, we should not let our guard down and take all the precaution. As it is highly infectious, we may see a large number of infections in near future that will bring our health system under pressure.
Good analysis
New variant with 46 mutations have been found in France.
That was detected even before Omicron and had been reported about in the past. Omicron was still able to overtake it, meaning that we should not worry about the French / Cameroonian variant. Some Thai (iirc) news agency reported it now, hence the brouhaha.
P.S. Please don't correct me for calling it the French / Cameroonian variant. I don't give two hoots about political correctness. Omicron is South African / Dutch variant. Delta is Indian variant. Covid-19 is Chinese virus. End of story. Thank you for your time
I followed your coverage on covid from the begining, unfortunately most of it turned out to be wrong and I ended up looking stupid in front of others! You speculate as much as u impart science!
Can you name a few points that made you end up looking stupid in front of others?
Thanks a lot shekhar ji.. it was excellent talk... made most of the things crystal clear with scientific proof... better than any scientist or doctors on talk shows...
Sir plz consider Launching an App of The print.
Thought had to do with abridged version at best today.
Future Episode Suggestion : -
Tectonic shift in the politics of middle east. UAE purchasing Rafales instead of the agreed F-35s, and also if it was possible that India had a role in nudging the UAE to the deal. Would love to hear Shekhar Guptas take on the hotbed of Intra Global Politics which is the Middle East.
Phenomenal
Last thing I listen before sleeping....
Good night Gupta Ji...
But with the increase in affected people even if the percent is less , the real numbers will be huge
👍 awareness on COvid. All citizens have responsibility to take all precautions in terms of preventing infection & let’s fight together!
Sir .. I request you to please make videos of such importance in Hindi as well… albeit short.
Do stock up with vit D vit C cough med with bronchodilator vit k magnesium and zinc. I have allergic Rhinitis and COPD. Works for me
When Will we Roam Free without masks and Without Thinking Of Corona The Life We enjoyed pre covid is now an Distant Dream with Secure Jobs and Care free roaming Everything is haunting and I can’t Start my Career in an Good org or in an Good field due to This Virus
Oh God Plz Show some mercy after all this Hustle 😢😢
21.37 ...... need some corrections....
But what if we spread and upgrade the omicron into Gupta version (if WHO denies the version name on previous grounds) ?
Sorry, but The Lancet lost all credibility after the Surgisphere scandal last year.
Gupta ji 🙏
I have sore throat 😰
My qs is that in view of some comments by public persons, is there any tension between Shahji and Modiji vis a vis closeness with Yogiji.
Hey SG.. you remember me Bollywood actor jackey Shroff who also put gamchha like today you wearing..cool 🎀
Need CTC on US CDC report on RT PCR test
South Africa is a middle income country with a GDP Per capita income of : $ 5,44 and India has a GDP per capita income of : $ 2,191.
what is the guarantee that the numbers indicated against omicron in this study is actually Omicron and not the delta? was genomic sequencing done of the hospitalized or deceased ppl during the omicron wave?
We'll was waiting 😅
Shekhar ji
Please also in a CTC , do take up the best protection against covid,is being FIT, weight management and exercise and not only VACCINATION.
This is now a scientific study.
You can say that again: It is not a small mercy that the hospitalization and death curves have behaved very differently. I had pointed this out based on Gauteng data when you were panicking with Omicron.
Looking forward, this is how it is looking in England which has 45 percent vaccinated with boosters. Even then, in one just week, one in 15 got infected (not symptomatic, just RAT tested). One in ten in London. In one week! So everyone is going to get infected but vaccinated people will have the best outcomes (and may not even feel it), and others are going to have a milder than Delta/Beta outcome. Community immunity (used to be called herd immunity before) is, therefore, likely?
Why the govt is not giving the data of adverse effects of vaccines and these are in lakhs...why hiding ???
Why so late
Lessons learnt by doing insider trading of shares....
Koi gist bataeyega?
Why so late?
SG has this native knowledge about how humans think and work. Works from walking the streets for decades.
Arrogant leaders has elections in his way let people die PM will not cancel rallies and lead nation by example.
Power is addictive.
Please don’t add swab sample collection videos. It’s so annoying that I have to fast forward.
Omicron, Pakistan and China 🙄🙄 what else is left for this year 2022
Good analysis but too long
1. Beta, delta, Omnicorn....virus vl not fade away in near future. Some variant vl be very devasting, some mild.. But they vl remain.
2. V have to devise ways n means to evolve from this..though deaths vl be thr..
3. Its our responsibility to fight thru.. Govts can only assist the population ..
4. Let us be more responsible..
Much needed topic...Thanks..
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Another Master Class by Shekhar ji... 🙏🏻🙏🏻
now who knows about IHU?
No need to worry or to analyse.