Sensitivity +2/3 and speed +5 for cAF. There's another review on youtube with a user that showed the differences. Current behavior is by design because in the past users complained the cAF was pulsing too fast in dfd.
I don't own the G9ii but an easy fix to the issue could be to set a button to AF ON NEAR which would solve that issue I would guess. Edit: I've used it for almost a month and the trick is to pre focus roughly where the subject will be and the detection takes care of it. I think the issue in your test was that you had subject detection turned on if you had turned it off i think it would have been quicker.
i have the g9ii and 200 f/2.8 w/1.4x TC. do you have the latest firmware for that relatively old great lens? i also have the new 100-400 Leica Mk2 and think it focuses faster than the 200 f/2.8 (with latest firmware) but haven't run any tests. i was also wondering if you tried different AFC focus modes like zone or Point/spot.
Yep, have the latest fw in camera and lens. Did try different zones and sensitivity functions. There might be some differences, but it doesnt match the speed of the OM1 or other brands in the market. I also had a thought that the new 100-400 will perform better since that one is made for the new af system. But dont have the lens, so have not tested that one :(
ALL mirrorless cameras struggle with racking focus inwards, they are fast only outwards. Ryan Mense (Sony guy) has a workaround where he points the camera at the foreground as he walks, to prevent the camera from auto sleep and so that the focus is always racking out (fastest) for a bird.
Thank you for such a detailed review and the beautiful images that you captured with both of these cameras. Far more in-depth and objective than many of the comparison videos that I’ve seen for these 2 cameras. I’ve decided to stick with the OM-1 instead of transitioning to the G9II. One point of feedback: since the video is so long, maybe consider adding in chapter markings in the video description?
Yes, out of the box if you haven’t adjusted any of the auto focus settings, they are set to be slow because I believe they’re optimized for a smoother video transition but if you go to set to set three, that’ll probably give you more of what you want you just have to tell it to focus transition faster. Just look up some videos. There was one by the Little Mix rep talking about that specific issue.
@10:20 actually I think it is a bit front-focused. Your hand seems to be more in focus than your face. It ended once you have moved out and into the frame...
Wondering if you (or anyone else) has come across an issue with the joystick on the G9ii? On a demo unit I had my hands on recently, the joystick definitely moves the focus area/point on the LCD screen but the movement on the screen is particularly slow - especially when moving it up and down... and it's definitely much slower than my current G9! I was thinking perhaps it was a one-off issue but ....??
Yes, joystick moves in small bit when you tap it, but if you hold it, it moves faster. Problem for me is if you hold to long it moves super fast in direction you hold it in. It takes some getting used too. I also have this problem on s5ii.
The G9II is better for video work. Photography is my main function, so the OM-1 is hands down the winner. Also the OM-1 has the stacked sensor less rolling shutter issue.
I have the OM1 with the Mzuiko 100-400 and the G9II with the Pansonic 100-400 Mark 1 and Mark 2. in general,Olympus lenses di not focus as fast on the G9II as Panasonic lenses. Talking of snappy focus. Your 150-400 is an Olympus lens. That may be the reason why the focus does not snap in as fast.
Bravo! Loved the review. I have a request, a Sigma from few years back, its called the Sigma FP L. Can you review it please, with the 60-600mm sigma lens. I want to see how it compares to this G9II. It's a selfish request as both cameras are in my buying wish-list 🤓
Wish we had the dipper over here, very nice images. The G9 was my first m4/3 camera. I liked it, but it had faults. I liked the power switch which allowed one activation. The hair trigger shutter button and battery grip was a royal pain. The focus method (depth from defocus or whatever it was) was not so good. I did capture a number of great images with the camera. I am not a fan boy and will speak out faults of a system even when I own it. For me the BSI sensor 20.2MP of the OM System is better than the 25MP non-BSI of the Panasonic. I take some short videos and would like better focus, but 98% of my work is photography. Sad that other brand of m4/3 lenses don't behave well on the camera bodies. OM System, please give us 4K slow-mo on the OM-1 II.
@@jangarcia1338 The images are cleaner by a stop and a half. The focus and buffer improvements were the big things for me. There are a few other things as well that made me decide. I mostly photograph birds.
Really enjoyed your review, the places, the pictures of the birds and landscapes were really wonderful. How the Panasonic Leica 12 mm 1.4 performed on the Lumix G9 II in terms of autofocus? Hope to welcome the Panasonic G9 II soon when the price will drop a little. Thanks for your great work and stunning impressions.
Thanks for your critical eye ! I've seen some other discriminating reviewers that have found foibles with the G9 II & it has given me pause to wait a while - maybe until this summer or fall - before getting my own. When something is fairly new in terms of technology there are often bugs that need to be ironed out. I'll keep my eye tuned for upcoming firmware updates as well as down the road ' positive ' reviews on the G9 II camera. Thanks again.
Thank you for this great comparison 🙏 I like your photos, too👍 One question: does the folder thing working in bracketing or continues shooting mode as well? I mean, do I get a 10 shot burst also collected in a folder for example?
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed it. If you shoot with SH burst (super high burst mode) it will save all the shots in a folder. Not sure when it comes to bracketing, but it will likely do so there as well. In previous models, I know, I could enable/disable this in the menu system, but not quite sure how I do it yet in the new menu system :)
Both stunnining cameras, but the Panasonic being so much cheaper might sway one's choice. I saw somewhere that Panasonic's focus update only works with video not stills. Can anyone confirm this?
I had the version 2.0 in this review, which is the latest version I can see at this time. I've only tried with this version, so I cant confirm, unfortunately.
Try the focus limiter on the G9 II. Set the near/far distance that the subject will be in. The focus does not have to move the full range and will be faster.
It might work if the camera is set up correctly. The control dial can be used as fn buttons. This is very useful as you have four buttons to program which are very quickly accessible with your thumb and easy to find. I use them for functions I want to be able to find easily and use frequently. There are two functions to set up. The first turns focus limiter on or off. The second sets the distance parameters that will be used. Set the left button to on/off. In case your subject is not in the distance zone preventing focusing, you can very quickly turn off the focus limiter and focus normally. The parameters I would set to the right button. This makes it easy to remember where the function is. It is a little confusing assigning the buttons, Panasonic did not make it intuitive or easy. To me the menu system is a step backwards, OM-1 wins easily here. But once set you are good to go. To set the distance parameters, focus on the far distance you want. Select the Distance 1 button on the screen. Focus on an object at the near distance you want. Press the Distance 2 button. You can confirms you are set up correctly by looking at the distance graphic shown on screen. One reason SF is faster than CAF is that it is contrast while CAF is phase. Contrast is faster on initial lock on. I hope Panasonic fixes this problem for you. There are a couple of things I wish they would fix for me: add HDR and make the menu sticky.@@TJPhotography
Just wondering how effective with the new human AI tracking in a group photo setting ? OM-1 is all over the place and does not stick to the person you try to autofocus on. I’m interested to see how much a difference does the OM-1 mark ii is on this area. Coz G92 does offer 4K 120 p and more resolutions something I might want instead of the OM-1 mark ii
So you are onto something here and there is potential. However, you really need a more organized structure for your video, adding sections and timecodes. And maybe consider dropping the "dramatic" music when you show stills, it can come off as too pretentious and off putting. Looking forward to seeing what you put out next!
Sensitivity +2/3 and speed +5 for cAF.
There's another review on youtube with a user that showed the differences.
Current behavior is by design because in the past users complained the cAF was pulsing too fast in dfd.
Thank you, I pin the comment for others to see aswell :)
Will give that a try, though I am not any where near good enough for this to be what’s holding me back. Lol.
Can you link to the other review that shows the difference with the settings you outlined?
Where exactely do I have to go in the menu to increase the cAF by 5? Only found this for video
@@ericaceous1652 "pDsX6Vy_CAI" video code
Thanks for the video.
What image stabilization did you use? In lens or in body?
Hi, lens when it comes to OM lens, and both lens and body when it comes to Lumix lens.
I don't own the G9ii but an easy fix to the issue could be to set a button to AF ON NEAR which would solve that issue I would guess.
Edit: I've used it for almost a month and the trick is to pre focus roughly where the subject will be and the detection takes care of it.
I think the issue in your test was that you had subject detection turned on if you had turned it off i think it would have been quicker.
Lovely video, lovely images!
...med gode Lofothilsener, din nye abonnent
Takk takk, og velkommen :)
Does the G9ii have bird af in 4k 60 fps?
Yes it does :)
Hi, I just saw your vid, a good one indeed! Do you know if they updated the focus by Firmware? Thank you and best from Uruguay.
thank you! Seems the latest firmware is still 2.0, which I had in this review.
i have the g9ii and 200 f/2.8 w/1.4x TC. do you have the latest firmware for that relatively old great lens? i also have the new 100-400 Leica Mk2 and think it focuses faster than the 200 f/2.8 (with latest firmware) but haven't run any tests. i was also wondering if you tried different AFC focus modes like zone or Point/spot.
Yep, have the latest fw in camera and lens. Did try different zones and sensitivity functions. There might be some differences, but it doesnt match the speed of the OM1 or other brands in the market. I also had a thought that the new 100-400 will perform better since that one is made for the new af system. But dont have the lens, so have not tested that one :(
You’re pictures are stunning! I really enjoy watching them 😍 what a beautiful scenery too
Thank you! :)
Helpful video!
Thanks.
As a side note, what is the track starting at 6:45?
ALL mirrorless cameras struggle with racking focus inwards, they are fast only outwards. Ryan Mense (Sony guy) has a workaround where he points the camera at the foreground as he walks, to prevent the camera from auto sleep and so that the focus is always racking out (fastest) for a bird.
Thank you for such a detailed review and the beautiful images that you captured with both of these cameras. Far more in-depth and objective than many of the comparison videos that I’ve seen for these 2 cameras. I’ve decided to stick with the OM-1 instead of transitioning to the G9II. One point of feedback: since the video is so long, maybe consider adding in chapter markings in the video description?
Thank you, and I will look into it :)
Yes, out of the box if you haven’t adjusted any of the auto focus settings, they are set to be slow because I believe they’re optimized for a smoother video transition but if you go to set to set three, that’ll probably give you more of what you want you just have to tell it to focus transition faster. Just look up some videos. There was one by the Little Mix rep talking about that specific issue.
@10:20 actually I think it is a bit front-focused. Your hand seems to be more in focus than your face. It ended once you have moved out and into the frame...
Wondering if you (or anyone else) has come across an issue with the joystick on the G9ii? On a demo unit I had my hands on recently, the joystick definitely moves the focus area/point on the LCD screen but the movement on the screen is particularly slow - especially when moving it up and down... and it's definitely much slower than my current G9! I was thinking perhaps it was a one-off issue but ....??
Yes, joystick moves in small bit when you tap it, but if you hold it, it moves faster. Problem for me is if you hold to long it moves super fast in direction you hold it in. It takes some getting used too. I also have this problem on s5ii.
The G9II is better for video work. Photography is my main function, so the OM-1 is hands down the winner. Also the OM-1 has the stacked sensor less rolling shutter issue.
Thanks for your review. Nice images. Y
Thanks for the review and beautiful footage!!! 1 LIKE from Singapore.
I have the OM1 with the Mzuiko 100-400 and the G9II with the Pansonic 100-400 Mark 1 and Mark 2.
in general,Olympus lenses di not focus as fast on the G9II as Panasonic lenses. Talking of snappy focus.
Your 150-400 is an Olympus lens. That may be the reason why the focus does not snap in as fast.
Bravo! Loved the review.
I have a request, a Sigma from few years back, its called the Sigma FP L. Can you review it please, with the 60-600mm sigma lens.
I want to see how it compares to this G9II.
It's a selfish request as both cameras are in my buying wish-list 🤓
Thank you, unfortunetly i dont own a FP-L or a 60-600mm :( would be fun to try though :)
@@TJPhotography No worries :), Yes, that lens especially is much talked about, the camera tho is a hit or miss. Thanks for everything and cheers!
Wish we had the dipper over here, very nice images. The G9 was my first m4/3 camera. I liked it, but it had faults. I liked the power switch which allowed one activation. The hair trigger shutter button and battery grip was a royal pain. The focus method (depth from defocus or whatever it was) was not so good. I did capture a number of great images with the camera. I am not a fan boy and will speak out faults of a system even when I own it. For me the BSI sensor 20.2MP of the OM System is better than the 25MP non-BSI of the Panasonic. I take some short videos and would like better focus, but 98% of my work is photography. Sad that other brand of m4/3 lenses don't behave well on the camera bodies. OM System, please give us 4K slow-mo on the OM-1 II.
@@JohnDoe1999-lg7mh yeah, OM needs to get 4k 120fps with subject detect!
Apart from the faster readout, do you find the OM 1 sensor to have better image quality?
@@jangarcia1338 The images are cleaner by a stop and a half. The focus and buffer improvements were the big things for me. There are a few other things as well that made me decide. I mostly photograph birds.
Really enjoyed your review, the places, the pictures of the birds and landscapes were really wonderful. How the Panasonic Leica 12 mm 1.4 performed on the Lumix G9 II in terms of autofocus? Hope to welcome the Panasonic G9 II soon when the price will drop a little. Thanks for your great work and stunning impressions.
Thank you! Can't say I noticed any problems with the 12mm. It performed well :)
Nydelig! Du er ein habil fotograf Torjan😃
Superior pictures! Thank you for showing that its not about sensorsize but about talent and fun
Totally agree, first of all it should be the fun. Its the reason I started with photography :)
Just love that little bird, so beautiful!
Thanks for your critical eye ! I've seen some other discriminating reviewers that have found foibles with the G9 II & it has given me pause to wait a while - maybe until this summer or fall - before getting my own. When something is fairly new in terms of technology there are often bugs that need to be ironed out. I'll keep my eye tuned for upcoming firmware updates as well as down the road ' positive ' reviews on the G9 II camera. Thanks again.
The camera is superior in many ways, so I really hope they get to fine-tune the AFC :)
@@TJPhotography Yes indeed - I agree !
Thank you for this great comparison 🙏 I like your photos, too👍
One question: does the folder thing working in bracketing or continues shooting mode as well?
I mean, do I get a 10 shot burst also collected in a folder for example?
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed it. If you shoot with SH burst (super high burst mode) it will save all the shots in a folder. Not sure when it comes to bracketing, but it will likely do so there as well. In previous models, I know, I could enable/disable this in the menu system, but not quite sure how I do it yet in the new menu system :)
@@TJPhotography That sounds good to me! Hopefully OM-Systems is coping this function. Otherwise my next came would be a Panasonic. 😉
The AF will be set for smoothers video. You can change it to make it quicker
Both stunnining cameras, but the Panasonic being so much cheaper might sway one's choice. I saw somewhere that Panasonic's focus update only works with video not stills. Can anyone confirm this?
I had the version 2.0 in this review, which is the latest version I can see at this time. I've only tried with this version, so I cant confirm, unfortunately.
Try the focus limiter on the G9 II. Set the near/far distance that the subject will be in. The focus does not have to move the full range and will be faster.
That might work, but doing so every time im out, isnt a good viable option for me in the long run. But thanks for the input :)
It might work if the camera is set up correctly. The control dial can be used as fn buttons. This is very useful as you have four buttons to program which are very quickly accessible with your thumb and easy to find. I use them for functions I want to be able to find easily and use frequently.
There are two functions to set up. The first turns focus limiter on or off. The second sets the distance parameters that will be used. Set the left button to on/off. In case your subject is not in the distance zone preventing focusing, you can very quickly turn off the focus limiter and focus normally. The parameters I would set to the right button. This makes it easy to remember where the function is.
It is a little confusing assigning the buttons, Panasonic did not make it intuitive or easy. To me the menu system is a step backwards, OM-1 wins easily here. But once set you are good to go. To set the distance parameters, focus on the far distance you want. Select the Distance 1 button on the screen. Focus on an object at the near distance you want. Press the Distance 2 button. You can confirms you are set up correctly by looking at the distance graphic shown on screen.
One reason SF is faster than CAF is that it is contrast while CAF is phase. Contrast is faster on initial lock on. I hope Panasonic fixes this problem for you. There are a couple of things I wish they would fix for me: add HDR and make the menu sticky.@@TJPhotography
Was the slow motion shot in 60 fps or 120 fps?
It was shot in 100fps :)
I have the new OM1 II and I can say the autofocus is better, especially the "human autofocus", wich is much better.
Just wondering how effective with the new human AI tracking in a group photo setting ? OM-1 is all over the place and does not stick to the person you try to autofocus on. I’m interested to see how much a difference does the OM-1 mark ii is on this area. Coz G92 does offer 4K 120 p and more resolutions something I might want instead of the OM-1 mark ii
You can select the person/eye specifically and log in. The person is thenfallowed. Thiis also works with animals.@@ryantang8146
you have to use native lenses for testing, you use native om1 no wonder it works better
I also used native on G9ii, the 200mm f2.8. I did mention this.
So you are onto something here and there is potential.
However, you really need a more organized structure for your video, adding sections and timecodes.
And maybe consider dropping the "dramatic" music when you show stills, it can come off as too pretentious and off putting.
Looking forward to seeing what you put out next!
Just wanted to comment the music didn't come off to me as pretentious nor off-putting at all.
@@necoooMe neither. Everyone with a phone is a critic these days.