First Drive: new Fisker Ocean review. Sub £40k electric SUV tested.
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2023
- The new Fisker Ocean will start from under £36,000 in the UK. Which is not a lot of money, by modern standards, for a mid-size electric SUV.
Now, the one you see in these moving pictures, reviewed by Matt Saunders, will cost more than that - it's the Extreme variant at £60,880. But still, this is a new range of cars that starts with what looks like a great value derivative.
The Fisker Ocean Extreme has two motors, with 556bhp and 543lb ft in total, can go from 0-62mph in 3.9sec and onto a 128mph top speed. It has a 106kWh usable battery, with a 440 miles WLTP combined range.
Find out what we think about it here. And visit the Autocar website at www.autocar.co.uk for more news and reviews.
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“This car has a really weird reverse noise”
*doesn’t demonstrate it 😒
Yeah. Continues to talk manure about solar panels, says nothing about efficiency and lies and says it's being built under license. What a troglodyte!
“There is also a little fold out table in the arm rest they call it a taco tray”
*doesn’t demonstrate it * 😒
Not sure I'd call this a review or a test. Didn't actually tell me much about it. Performance, charging capability, interior space, boot size, frunk?, availability, servicing arrangements etc?
Do you read, its write: FIRST DRIVE
You can find some answers to your questions elsewhere. Here's one: no frunk
as stated by another commenter, FIRST DRIVE (which means an Introduction) is right in this video’s title.
This is a quick review what else did you expect. This is what I expected
The channel _Fully Charged_ has a more thorough, info-rich video.
I feel the journalist failed in many ways to offer us a real insight into this car. He suggested several things he found worth mentioning, but never actually showed us. The funny reversing noise for one. He didn't show interior space, rear seat and boot accommodation. Overall, it left me looking for other RUclips presenters, to show me what Autocar failed to show.
That's because this is just a "first drive" video - full review to come once they get their hands on UK market cars.
@@Adam.Piper62 I agree with @chryschrysostomou5392's post. It wouldn't have been difficult to show us the rear seat leg room at the very least as that is one of the most important aspects of any new car I would look at buying. Also no mention of warranty.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this very chill, informative, review of a vehicle that continues to intrigue me. I left the car business a couple of years ago (my former company has a fleet of enclosed trucks - I sold truck space and managed projects for the likes of Ferrari, Lotus, Rivian etc moving prototypes for weather testing, car shows etc, as well as handling film shoots) One of my clients was Karma (Chinese company that bought Fisker - I moved client units and handle several nationwide tours for their SC1 and Pininfarina models. I could tell you some stories of that adventure). You did Fisker a solid by calling them a new company. =) I hunted Fisker (with the Ocean) for several years trying to get their show / press business but was too early. The Fisker Karma was ahead of its time and I always felt that, despite its flaws, Fisker took a beating with the bankruptcy. Hats off to him for persevering. I hope that this second bite of the cherry is a success. Thank you for the content, kind sir.
Agree on the Karma, it was ahead of its time and perhaps caused by its name, that project was hit by a lot of bad luck ie. a hurricane destroying a lot of cars just arrived in the US from production in Europe, US politicians making their financing a political issue and their battery supplier going out of business.
The Fisker company that brings the Ocean is actually a new company, as in the old company haven been taken over by that Chinese one except for Henrik Fisker keeping his name which has then been used in the new company. If I recall correctly some big figures from the traditional car industry has money in the new Fisker company, plus Magna-Steyer that does the production so far also has a chunk of the shares.
@@bzdtemp I completely forgot about the hurricane. One thing after another for the poor guy. The Magna connection is a solid one. I tried to hit them as well but they wouldn't give me the time of day. =) He has changed things up. In difference to the Karma, which was sold as a luxury ride, the Ocean is aiming for the "people's car" market, which is a smart play. Volume.
This feels like the next step in actually affordable and interesting motoring. I'm impressed Fisker, I hope you steal many many sales from those manufacturers resting on their laurels.
In reality it will be a 50 to 60k car in a spec you actually want. Not sure how you perceive that to be affordable.
I think you're thinking of MG.
Agree, in theory ... but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop... called "Real world experience". It sounds too good to be true to me. Expecting major quality control issues, reliability issues, customer service issues, parts issues, etc... I wouldn't touch this car with a 10 foot poll until a year's worth of customer feedback is avaialble.
God !!!! i bet your the "FUN" at any party if you think Electric cars are interesting
@@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 as fun as someone with your username
Looks great, just wish the review had shown more of the car and its features !
California feature it’s not a silly feature…
For somebody who is living near or by the beach they just created a new way to enjoy they environment
California mode is exactly why I reserved a Fisker Ocean Ultra!
I think you nailed the psychology of owning a FISKER.
Great impression. My family is looking to buy EV. Fisker Ocean will be our next car. !!
Interesting car, however a rather boring video..
lots of “talk shots” combined with annoying background music, very little clips with details of the interior and exterior…
Agree. Would like to know more about assembling quality, materials, look underneath a car for more tech design of a chassis, etc. Need to know was it worth of ordering one.
I agree this young Mike Brewer Sutcliffe hybrid is rather boring & clearly does not care about styling.
Agreed! This car is such a dud that Matt Saunders had very little to say; he certainly failed to find the myriad of problems and issues that other RUclips reviewers have found. For example, he parroted Fiskers' claim of 1,550 km of extra range from the roof mounted solar panels. It's said that the solar panels ARE NOT even connected to the battery. Solar electricity is fed directly to the driving motors (or presumably to ground if the car is not moving). This has to be one of Autocar's worst reviews, it makes me worry of any other reviews Mr Saunders does (or has done).
Fisker Project Vision Day. August 3rd at 4pm PDT. New vehicles will be shown 🍺
Great EV, for sure, but you do need to be able to charge at home! Public rapid chargers cost 10 times as much. I currently pay 7.5p per kwh, whereas a rapid charger will cost in excess of 75p per kwh. So that larger 113kwh battery version will cost £84 to charge using a public rapid charger vs £8.40 at home. The exteneded range version of the MG4 will still be king for value vs range. It'll have a 77kwh pack and 325 miles range costing £36,495. I would still prefer the Ocean though lol 😂 what a beast
Also, how long does it take to charge from 10% to 100% if you're doing this at a public charger once a week? (Maybe I missed this in the review?)
@@herme99 you don't charge to 100% on a public charger
A home charge is cheaper than a public charge is the same for all EVs so not sure what your point is
public chargers electricity if you go onlonger journey costs more then normal fuel and of course you must charge much longer for same mileage or around 1 hour for 100% if you are first in line while car around minute or less depend on pressure of petrol gun
Can’t wait to start seeing Fisker on the U.K. roads! I really like Henrik Fisker I feel he deserves for this to be a real success. Great car, great review @autocar ! 👍
Lots of missing information unfortunately. E.g.Who will you take it to if it needs service in the UK? The option packages on the Fisker are hugely expensive. If you want a basic feature like rain sensing wipers that’s a £5K package. Software on early Ocean One users seems to be a bit “laggy” and lots not finished yet. As VW have ably demonstrated getting the software right is difficult and a risk to buyers that it will take years. Since Fisker couldn’t answer my questions whilst wanting a large non returnable deposit for an unfinished car I cancelled my order. Shame it’s the right idea.
There are only two option packages on the low end versions : Performance Package (£1.6k) and Winter Package (£1.1k)
I didn’t order one for the same reason, no dealerships etc, I e gone for a Volvo instead!
Easy answer, don't ever buy a car outside of old brands, your problem solved
Another 2.5 tonne SUV. Just what UK roads needed
very informative, yet laid back and well balanced review mate! Loved it. Love the car and their approach as well, and your knowledge behind the design philosophy as well, gave me quite a lot of metadata on details important to me. Impressed, Liked & Subscribed!
Great review 👍 I’m sold!
I really like this car, the range does it for me. Fantastic and a great review. I live in France and i think they're coming here. About time manufacturers started being this innovative.
After watching your video this is the 1st ev i have ever thought of buying.
Good looks, amazing value, the #1 battery range, and i like the gimmicks.
How about dealer network, many dealers in uk ?
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it a lot. Possible could have showed more of the back seats and the boot. Cheers.
I've always been wondering why cars/suvs of 3 rows never have rollable windows for the third rows, and assumed it's not viable.. But that california mode showed that not only that, but even the boot window was rollable 😃
Love this car, so unique and stylish. I would daily-drive this thing and enjoy every second
But why?
@@kize32 Why would I drive it, or why would I enjoy it? Design is each person's preference, I really like this exterior and interior. I would save a gas-powered car for fun when not driving it.
unique? That is copy paste of RR evoque.🤣
Looks really nice. I will look into getting an Ocean for sure
Thanks for speaking about some features and not demonstrating them..... besides a more ordinary stuff like rear seats, the boot, etc...which didnt deserve any attention, too.... did fisker prohibit demontration of all mentioned above? Thanks.
I like new cars and brands..competition is good. the only problem i have is that it might be a long trip to do warrenty and service errands so you need to do alot of research before you buy one.
This car looks amazing. I'm worried about changing to EV, but this looks good and not expensive compared to every other EV.
I would buy one if they were called Fister.
Just what the world needed - yet another electric SUV! I'm sure this will sell in the 10's in the UK - all those brand loyal car owners will jump to buy a 'Fisker' I'm sure.
I think I would wait to see how this one goes.
If the silence in between was taken out or edited, this video would've been under 10 mins
Fantastic Car. I love and enjoy my Fisker Ocean One every day. I'm happy ;)
Nicely done
Very impressed Fisker has somehow survived
Very well thought out and executed Fisker Ocean review. Appreciate all the research you put into its production, which we usually take for granted.
My only qualm is the lack of android auto (and also apple play.) However, this one is on my list for their second model year... just to see what, if any, bugs need to be worked out.
Say this an awful lot on socials, RUclips and online but I really wish there were more real world based car performance reviews. Of course they don’t or wouldn’t suit every category of car out there but for example someone thinking of swapping from say a BMW 530d to an M3 no reviewer on RUclips really gives you that level of performance based review that it makes you think ‘right I’m off to the dealership’. 0-60s, demonstrated launch control, 1/4 miles, drag races with very similar cars, footage of a car on the road with seemingly nothing else there. They aren’t really what people want to see when deciding on a road car. They’re fun don’t get me wrong. I love to see drag races but everyone does them and they’re not really ‘real world’ demonstrations. In the real world you want to know if a car can comfortably overtake on a backroad with a 2-3 car backup in front of you, whether you can put your foot down on the motorway when John in his 58 reg A6 gets right up your arse and you don’t particularly want to have to shift across, just how much you can embarrass the local chavs in their Mountune Fiest ST when they try and go past you on a twisty road. Situations like those are what it would be really fun and good to see from a car review on RUclips. Or even just drag race something like an RS3 against a bunch of cars you’re likely to see ‘road wankers’ driving that think they’re king eg 56 reg 320d, any Fiesta ST, 58 reg Range Rover Sports, Jaguar XF…… etc. if you’re thinking about splashing £60-70k+ on something, having a reviewer on RUclips give you a bit of ‘feel good’ about higher performance road cars by demonstrating more real world scenarios it would go down a treat with a lot of folks on RUclips imo.
Fisker is not just a guy coming out of nowhere. this dude have worked on some awesome cars over the years. he also worked with Elon musk back in the day. but they went their seperate ways, Fisker had other ideas and plans for cars, so therefor they stopped working together. The Fisker car company is very cool, unique, and different from other car brands. This company will be a Juggernaut in the car industry within the next 10-15 years. i think this car is quite cool. doesnt look like anything else out there currently.
Did not mention ride quality, did not show storage space, did not show rear seats and we saw a glimpse of a third row and didn't bother to see how big the trunk/boot space would be with the third row up or down, or if the third row is an option and how many passengers could fit in total. Did not do a walk around the car to show it's features and mostly it safety attributes.
The fact that the range indicator says 700km doesn’t mean it will do that.
You haven’t actually tested the Sport (sub £40k) version though. It’s so difficult to find anywhere what the Sport is actually like and what features are included in the sub £40k price.
A wonderful review and a review with so many pertinent points/facts, the Fisker Ocean suggests it is well suited to the move for families from ICE vehicles to EV.
Kudos to the bright minds at Fisker and thank you Autocar for showing leadership around how the role of a car will transition. There will be naysayers, but I'd suggest a quick search of Moose test failures, Ford Ka etc, you know what I mean, forging to find a new way forward has issues. The opportunity to take great road trips where the focus is seeing, experiencing and remembering great journeys years after taking them will live on. Thanks Fisker,and thanks Autocar for demonstrating those points.
The UK’s first registered Fisker Ocean is for sale on Autotrader for £63k. 0-60mphmin 3.9 secs, 440 miles range and 7 seats.
How do you get one for £36k or even £40k? On the Fisker website, they start at £56k but the have 'pre-configured ones available within 10 days but they are all£60k plus!
The most interesting and intelligent EV (or any) car review I've seen in ages. Probably the first car I'd consider swapping my (8 year old) Tesla Model S for, given its greener credentials, range, price point - and the fact that Tesla have lost their way somewhat in the last couple of years, in service and focus, if not in manufacturing.
How do the seats feel?
Nice car. Wish that electric roof didn't cost $15k. Would be well handy in Australia - as is that long range.
I'd probably want to see a LT owners review or 3 before buying, see what servicing agreements they can establish in Aus.
So when are first deliveries?
EU deliveries are happening already.
How big is the boot. Do the seats go flat in the back. Where can I see one 🤷♂️
I wish you'd show us around the car. Saying great things, but we want to see more than the drivers seat.
"Waiting for an hour to fill a battery" for the LAST TIME: you DO NOT spend an hour rapid charging ANY modern EV. It doesn't happen.
You put in enough to get home. None of my last half dozen rapid charge stops have lasted more than 9 minutes. Why? Because all I needed was a 20 mile buffer to get me to my house,... Where I have a charger.
You don't fill these things when you're out and about. You fill them while you're asleep at home.
For the LAST TIME: Not all trips are exactly 110% your car’s range. Some people have to drive longer some times
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229and it still wouldn't take an hour. Because your destination, if you've planned properly, will have a charger. And you wouldn't ever charge it to full. An 80% charge is fine for road trips, you're not going to be at 0% when you reach your charger and a modern electric car is likely to take a 150Kw charge - this one certainly does.
If you're there more than 25 minutes then something is wrong.
Fast chargers degrade car range much faster. They tested that 100km less range in car after 200000km and fast charging compared to slow charging at home.
With the California mode, is the sunshine optional?
They are all saying about 40k below, but eventually it rises about 50k 😄😄😄
Tesla has shown these prices mean nothing if production levels are mediocre. When reviewers do not communicate this reality in their reviews, they come off as spokespersons for the manufacturer. Tesla has the manufacturing capacity and can back it up with available vehicles.
It’s not a 36k EV is it. It starts from 35k. Usually sloppy journalism / car reviews with click baity titles. In reality it’s a 59 - 60k vehicle. When will the in affordability and cost of these EVs be addressed.
I imagine it would be challenging to find somewhere to get this car (and other obscure EV makes) serviced in the UK to satisfy the warranty
I don't think that will be a problem. Just like they outsourced manufacturing I believe they will partner up with someone to offer nationwide service. In an older article I read that it would be Cox Automotive and Rivus Fleet Solutions in the U.K but I'm not sure if that information is up to date. Besides, an EV typically doesn't require much service.
We've got an EV and if it's not serviced by a franchised dealer the 8-year warranty on the battery is invalidated@@ThorRavnsborg
right now absolutley theyve only made like 2000... but by end of year they're expecting like 10,000 a month
The Ocean called, "they are running out of shrimps."
Will they have many UK dealerships?
California mode (aka, open all the windows and let the heat out after the car has been sat charging in the sun). Good idea! Not silly!
Looks decent, not much of a review, but not a bad introduction
Nice looking SUV
What city or state is that.. The region he is driving through
It will NOT retail at £36,000 when it EVENTUALLY comes to the UK market ...anyone want to take a bet on that?
Hi there you are talking about practicality but in your video you didn't show us anything about it. You didn't show us the back seats you didn't show us the Frank or the boot. From the driver's point of view you did an excellent video thanks again
How good is after sales service warranty . Who will fix it new company would be more comfortable if was backed by a major car company
As he's driving you cant hear road noice or bumps which is impressive.
Depends on what speed he driving..
Also notice in California mode, you don’t hear the wind noise as much either. Must be a noice cancelling microphone
Will this be coming to the U.K.
Wish you had gone into more detail about things like visibility, road noise, comfort-ability etc. i have a reservation for an ultra i forwent due to legitimate reasons but i still want to see reviews with an attention to these details for future reference. Thanks anyways!
Why are you waiting longer than 15 minutes for a DC charge?
Magna rocks. The fisker attributes sound awesome and it looks beautiful too. Priced well too.
Time will tell to see if the quality is there and if Fiskar is a survivor or road kill. I am thankful for anything that can challenge Tesla. Fingers crossed. I have a deposit but I am waiting a bit. The launch has been a little rocky….
when you say sub 40k, you mean at some unspecified point in time in the future while right now the price is double?
looks like some kind of Kia Soul Sibling lmaooooooo
Amazing car. Beautiful design. I’m getting one for sure.
5:30 what sound was that?
Title is misleading. You tested a 60k variant of the car, not 40k.
This was an excellent review, thank you. I enjoyed it even though I'm not an EV enthusiast; and that's a high praise:)
What about safety of this car? Couldn't find any information on that.
It’s a sensible car…. I think that sums it up
My PHEV spent 6 months at the dealer, waiting for a replacement battery pack. I'm not buying a product again where the volume is insufficient to support normal maintenance and the production and inventory of spare parts.
I think I’d put the cheapest of the longer range versions on my shortlist, at around £50k. That kind of price for 400 miles is, like VW’s new ID7, something I could work with!
I had the Sport ($37,500) on order. Base standard color white and wheels, a few minor options with delivery priced out just over $44,000. Cancelled my order.
Yeah so expensive here in USA a sport base no options with tax and nearly $3000 delivery fee I am at almost $44k, insane, and basically 0 options. He is ripping off people on delivery fees,
They never say about real prices in those reviews. Only: what a brilliant car 😊. Pure publicity.
@@t.nocontent All countries act differently. In Europe recommended prices are higher, but there's not that many suprise costs, VAT included, usually no dealer markups, etc. In USA everything seems cheaper, but you need to sell your house, if you need to visit hospital for a week.
The big issue for me was no heat pump offered in the Sport trim as standard or even as an option. At one point Henrik was on camera saying all trim levels will have a heat pump as standard equipment. I will be closely watching Sport range tests this winter.
@@rod2625 Henrik, lied,
Solar panels have never been heavy, especially in the context of a car.
Whoever said that is smoking something very strong.
we need AWD and 100kWh with LFP = much longer lasting battery option.
They have AWD and 460 mile range already on ultra trim and up
Would be way too heavy. But new coming versions of LFP like LMFP will bring you closer. Just follow what is about to happen to Tesla Model 3 in couple of months.
Is this car a BYD over a sken?
unique and great car
Did you try out the different driving modes? Maybe you just drove the car in the Earth mode?
This car review is so chill that it felt like I was in a conversation with a friend and I was listening to his opinion while we discussed about this new Fisker EV.
I like it though, perhaps because it's not the first point of contact (review) otherwise I might have found it boring.
Good job anyways. 👍
Fantastic review 🥳
Great review. Though it is admittedly a grown up car it can still do 0 to 60 in less than 4 seconds.
Wow what an amazing car but again it's going to be a very long time before most people can afford one of these unless you live at home with your parents it's just not viable!! Great car tho!! 👍🏻
Interior space, performance testing, handling, ride comfort? Did you think of reviewing any of these?
Maybe show people what the interior and exterior of what the car actually looks like in the next 'review' video.
Such a shame that they're going to bust again before they can sell many of these, because from the consumer perspective it seems like a good deal. Given the importance of software updates to BEVs, I'd hesitate to buy one though until Fisker shows a bit of staying power.
To just explain my thinking, the long range vehicle has 113kWh gross pack. That is absolutely enormous for the segment and is going to cost a fortune (there's a reason why competitor vehicles are all in the 75-85kWh sort of range). I just don't see how they can put a pack that size (especially as a new manufacturer with relatively low volume) in a car that price without massively negative margins (just look at Ford's margins on the Mach E, which has a pack about 2/3 the size and costs more).
Having to compete with Tesla, which is obviously already at scale, is making life so hard for start ups like Fisker.
Agreed, tesla has more range with 77 kwhbattery this is enormous and shows its not efficient, unfortunately, but we'll see he may survive,
@@PhatLe-jj2ng I mean, Henrik also said that Fisker Automotive was going to be profitable and sell 15k cars a year back in 2010 and they went bankrupt 3 years later. Obviously I can wait for the financial reports, but anyone with a functioning brain knows that even if Fisker had a superior product with great cost control, they would have negative margins for quite some time, it's just the nature of scaling a business. Depending on how you account, you can show a positive gross automotive margin, but still go bankrupt because of the cost of plant and machinery and other operating expenses, which tend to be relatively large vs revenues for start up car businesses who need to invest to grow. Let's see, but I think Fisker has a very small chance of still being in business by 2030. It's possible they survive, but extremely unlikely.
It's the name Fisker, it's awful.
I don't understand why people are so self righteous, & stupid nowadays, they're styling like some Chinese makers is fantastic- but like some Chinese brand names it sounds bloody awful Fisker- you don't have to give something a pass just because it's there, and put infront of you, the name is dog dirt.
Tesla is a cool name hence stole the march as a brand on the Karma.
Great Car!
lovely car
Beautiful cat ty
Interesting car; didnt know this was coming. As far as the reporting goes, i was surprised that you didnt show the particular features you highlighted (if it makes a space age sound while reversing why not insert a clip where we can hear it? If it has a fold out taco table why not show it? If it's practical why not show the boot?)
Great car... Fisker is off to the great start ... Glad you are impressed with the Ocean ..
Nice vid. That’s on the shopping list!
Let's hope they can manufacture more than a few a week. Supply is always the problem.
Very nice. I like it 👍