EV Ramblings - 2018 Toyota Prius Prime Driving Reaction
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It's an amazing car. We have been getting about 30 miles electric range.
I test drove this car today and was quite impressed. I learned that the 2020 model will have 5 seats which is great news!
That's awesome! 5 seats really does make a difference
I have this car and its amazing. The best of both worlds, for now. Thanks for the review
This video has helped me SO much! Thanks for the great video!!
I'm loving your Toyota Prius Prime videos . Thank-You so much
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you found it worthwhile!
Best thing about the heads up display is the gps turn signals if you set your destination.
I really enjoyed watching your thoughts on the prime, particularly since you're a fan of both gen volts. I'm torn between prime, bolt, and volt. My experience with chevy dealers thus far has been less than ideal. The prime was the first of the three I drove and got the wheels turning in my head of getting an efficient ev or plug in.... While I like the sportiness of the volt (and definitely the bolt) - the value proposition for the prime can't be denied. It gets no real respect, you just have to drive it. It's a rather sublime, comfortable, effortless driving experience. The interior, with big windows, and recessed dash is so much more roomy than the volt - that makes it even more comfortable. My allure to sporty cars and having more ev range says volt but dang the prime is a really good car. And I like the funky interior!
Thanks for the great comments! I would agree that most people's GM dealership experience when it comes to their electrified vehicles is less than ideal (but usually this is typical among most manufactures sadly). Honestly, the Prime blew me away with everything it did, and I don't think you could go wrong with it. But, if it was me, I'd be all-in on the Bolt. I'm actually planning on downgrading to 1 car (currently have a 2012 Leaf and the 2011 Volt), and the Bolt is basically the only car that fits the bill for me. I will also be test driving a Kona EV, and possibly the Kia Niro EV when it becomes available. And actually, as I'm writing this, there is news that in late 2020 the Volt is going to become a CUV, so that's also interesting. Anyways, I suppose what I want to say is you can't really go wrong with any of the options. They are so much better than any combustion or regular hybrid vehicle.
finally someone speaking like normal people.
Hey thanks! My whole purpose of these videos is to be somewhat informative and realistic. I'm not an entertainer and have never tried to be. Before I bought my first EV I found none of the videos gave me what I wanted - the driving reaction of someone who wasn't trying to act stupid.
I have a 17 Prime advanced, mine has 40k miles on it now and it has been a great car. I couldnt stand the factory rims though and put 16" custom alloys on with run flat tires, because I hate not having a spare tire. Just to comment on the driving modes. I cant drive the car in Eco mode, the throttle response is way too detached and mushy for me. I basically have the car in power mode all the time, and pretty much have a heavy inefficient foot and still average over 50mi a gallon in winter, and 55+mi in the summer and that is impressive because I drive it like I stole it.. lol... The car is not fast but it is strong enough and holds it own in different traffic scenarios when needed, and it is much better in power mode for shift and throttle response. I drive my 27 mi one way commute in EV auto mode, which basically in this mode the gas engine will start if you put your foot down. The car has a nice acceleration boost when you have a charge in the battery and the gas motor hops in to assist in this mode. Definitely more powerful then gas engine alone. On the Interstate the EV mode will switch over to gas engine at about 82mph. I charge my car every night and my average charge range is 23-26 miles, outside temp definitely plays a role in the amount of range after charging. The batteries do not like colder weather for range and the cars heater eats the battery a little quicker. I have a 16kw solar system on my house and my electric bill is zero which makes all around ownership of the Prime even more cost effective.
No one ever uses B mode right. Its for extended down hills to prevent overcharging. Just use the brake pedal, it will not use the brakes until full regenerative braking is not enough to slow you down.
Had a Prius C for 4 months have to have a Prius Prime love these cars have one on order should be here next week
How do you compare the ride comfort and the noise inside the cabin on the highway to the Prius C? I'm thinking about making the switch soon.
The larger battery pack in the Prius Prime seems to be added on as an afterthought. It takes up a lot of space in the cargo area.
Thanks for the comments! It definitely seems that Toyota may have thought of this car as an after-thought compared to the other cars built on the platform. I do recall though that the very first generation Prius also had the same issue (trunk intrusion), and that thing sold like mad.
The Prius was always engineered to be a regular hybrid - not a plug-in hybrid. So yes that big battery is definitely not engineered into the car from the start.
I drive a miata. I'm the last person who'll complain about cargo space.
This is the car i am doing my driver training in for my drivers school.
Want one badly 😉
Seems like everyone wants some kind of plug in vehicle right now!
Please make sure to go try a Honda clarity man. As one who experianced it first hand, i think it comes ahead of the volt and the prime as a commuter. The only thing the cars got on the Clarity is a Hatch. Its a step closer to the volt then the prime cause the motor wont come on if you demand high heat/ac in the cabin.
Thanks for the comments! I've been trying to get my hands on a Clarity for a while now but inventory is almost non existent. Definitely on my list of cars to test drive next!
I couldn’t FIT in the Clarity. No legroom.
James Moran I'll be test driving one in a few weeks and will look for this.
Good information, probably best video on the Prime I have seen. Still pondering whether it is worth the money over the regular (base) Prius. The price difference being almost $4000 (with incentives). You can buy an awful lot of gas with $4000. And not worry about plugging your car in (with the extra cost of electricity). Plus you get more cargo space in the regular Prius.
Definitely all things to consider. I would suggest that charging convenience will be influenced on your parking situation. The actual act of plugging the car in is easy, and for my 2011 Volt, I just have the 120 volt charger affixed in my garage so when I drive in, I open the charge port door and plug it in. For electricity cost, this will vary where you are, but a good average electric consumption I see on most EVs is 6km per kWh. Where I live, step 1 electricity is 8.9 cents, and step two is 12 cents. So basically, it's roughly 1.3 ish cents a km - insanely cheaper than gasoline. One other thing to consider is that even though your maintenance cycle is the same on the Prius Prime compared to a regular Prius, if you are doing the majority of your driving on the electric motor, that is a lot less wear on the car itself.
Thanks for commenting!
So I didn't know anything about your channel or who you are (literally the first video I watch from you) and I could tell the road design was oddly familiar.
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God damn it, I recognize everything about BC now.
Alexandre Potvin what does that has to do with birth control
Manual break in your left foot? Manual comes from Latin,meaning hand.
Dustin I have a 2012 Prius plug in and my car uses gas with the ev mode and the you can't stay in ev mode above 62 mph
EV mode limit on the Prime is 84 mph
The beeping can drive you mildly nuts - especially backup - my Gen3 had that too. HUD is cool - like that. Much quieter and smoother than Gen3. EV power very impressive unless you expect sports car performance. I drive in Eco mode and find response lively. Interior colour patterns nicer in Canadian version. Noisier in HV mode. Display is a bit "stunned" and has some glare issues. The amount of running on battery in HV mode is typical of Prius Hybrid. Nobody does hybrid drive better! Hydrid performance and mileage even better than my old 2013 Prius Gen3.
Performance in winter still good but some issues. Sticky snow fouls radar and sensors. More beeping and bitching. Engine runs below -12C for heat etc. EV range less as well. Winter handling excellent. CVT trans great for smooth starts. Being in QC, I was able to get 2017 Prime last July. Had planned to keep my 2013 another year but test drive of Prime and $4,000 from QC changed my mind. Good decision! QC also gave rebate on charging station so I can reload the battery in about 2 hours.
Too bad my Roadtrek does not get as good mileage.
rdvqc you can ask the dealer to turn the reverse beep off.
rdvqc i keep hearing solid positive reviews about the Prime in the winter. Great to hear about it from someone in QC where winters are probably worse/colder than here in BC. Winter driving was a big concern for me, so thanks for your post
You can do a simple Google search and find out how to turn off the beeping. I'm a Gen 2 and gen 3 isn't that difficult. super annoying and I have no idea why they think it's a good idea if anything that goddamn beeping is distracting while you're trying to back up.
Nice car the 2020 is even beter than these 5 seat and less chrging time as i heard
B mode is not to put energy back into the battery, it does the opposite. It uses the engine as an air pump to spin off excess energy when descending steep gradients, just like downshifting in a manual. This stops the battery getting overcharged and driving round in B mode will use more gas.
Mr H on a plug in hybrid this information is incorrect. You can see on the display that with foot off the accelerator in b mode, it is clearly regenerating more electricity into the battery pack. This is the same on battery electric vehicles as well. It is called regenerative braking - the electric motor runs in reverse to make and send electricity into the battery pack.
I stand corrected, that's very interesting to know!
This is true, but on very steep grades what Mr. H says is also true. The gas motor will engage and spin. I own a Prius Prime and see this behavior going down mountain passes or other steep grades.
That is extremely odd behavior. This is not something that happens in an extended range EV such as the Chevrolet Volt or BMW i3.
Dustin Batchelor The Prius is a hybrid though and not a range extending EV or pure EV so that must be where the differences are. I had a pure EV before my Prius and know the regenerative braking on that was much stronger than the Prius so helped more with descending steeper gradients, therefore the Prius uses the ICE to give additional engine braking. I have not driven a Prime so I don’t know if that works any differently.
It's very energy consuming to produce Lit-Ion batteries. So if one is considering buying a PHEV, it would be good to think how much you need range in daily use. If your daily use is 90% of the time under 50km, battery of Prime would be utilized to it's maximum most of the time. On the other hand, if daily use (between the charges) would be mostly between 80-100km, go for a Volt and use it's electric capacity to its max. For my case, Prime would be perfect car. I have two homes, one in Finland and other in Spain and I drive two return trips per year between homes. When at location, my daily driving on week days because of lots of remote working, is between 0-40km. i could be driving electric most of the time and when I make the 2500km one way trip, I would drive the most efficient PHEV on planet (Ionic PHEV might get similar results).
Timo Gronroos There's a RUclips channel called Engineering Explained and the host--a very learned youngish man-- takes on that very topic in great detail, the which-is-greener debate (all gas vs. all electric). HE looks at every aspect as far as I can tell, even the mining and production of the battery components. It's worth watching for all the particulars, but the bottom line is in almost all scenarios, electric-power for cars comes out on top.
I really wish they had not eliminated the middle seat in the back. They did this to compensate for the heavier battery pack in the rear. Rather than put different springs and shocks in the rear to compensate. Kind of a dumb move in my opinion. Unfortunately I absolutely must have three seats in the back or I would have seriously considered one. Probably going to look at a Hyundai ioniq plug-in hybrid or kia Niro plug-in hybrid as a result of that oversight.
kens97sto171 I have to agree with you. My 2011 Volt only seats 4, and it has definitely been an issue for me. I am able to work with it, but I wouldn't buy another 4 seater to replace it.
kens97sto171 if you can find three people that can fit in the back seat of a Prius, you must know female size-3 models. Huge non-issue. Would prefer a flat seat regardless, but too small for five.
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I care more about seat comfort than being able to put 3 across the back that happens very rarely.
The model 3 seat is total crap.. very uncomfortable for even me and I'm only 5'8.
Sorry it sucks.. the Prius has a much better back seat.. more leg room and better comfort for people.
I drive 1000 miles a week for work with passenger in the back all the time.. get compliments all the time a out how roomy it is.
kens97sto171 lol wasn’t speaking of the Tesla. Was trying to refer to small people. Sorry for not being clear. Have had my prime for a couple of weeks and 3500 miles. I’m pretty big (6-1 270) and the drivers seat is comfortable enough and adequately roomy. I could sit in the back and be fine too. Overall, love the vehicle. Only complaint of substance is the visor being too small with no extension. I drive mostly highway at about 80 or in traffic and am getting overall mpg of close to 70 mpg. Not as roomy as the Avalon I traded in but I’m digging the gas savings, tax credits and single driver carpool privileges.
@@cairnman100
Sorry I misunderstood.. thought you were talking about a Tesla 3.
The Prime is really nice... Unfortunately it lacks 3 across and that eliminate it as a possible Rideshare car. Must be able to legally seat 4 passengers.
It is tight with 3 across... But it's not a big deal.
They won't even let you register ba car to use if it does not have 4 Seats for passenger.
The 25+ Mile's of range is not enough of a percentage of my daily driving to make it worth it for me anyway. 220-300 miles a day.. for me.
I like the headlights and taillights of the Prime much more than the regular Prius.
For me it's best to buy nice used ones drive them 2-3 years and toss them.
Currently have an 08 with 254,000 on it. Still gives me 42-50mpg.
how about battery bro.
Hello, Today my 2018 Toyota Prius primes 11.6 screen rebooted when I started drive, This is not a normal I think, what do you think about? Thank you
Car isn’t charged yet bud lol
Actually it was charged :)
I’m impressed man. Great video.