In this video I discuss what would happen if Oikawa went to Shiratorizawa instead of Aoba Johsai! Support me on Patreon: / aniessays Twitter: @AniEssays
But I think if Oikawa had went to Shiratorizawa, he would probably bring Iwaizumi along him. Well if that would ever happens, that team would be definitely the best since they have 2 ace caliber players on the team on Ushijima and Iwaizumi, I think that Iwaizumi's skill is probably equals to Osamu.
@@angeloacuna7819 yeah for sure I can see him bring Iwa but I’m just going by the scenario if he didn’t. I say Iwa is equal or Osamu on defense but I don’t see Iwa pulling off that quick.
@@kirayoshikage8007 yes he can't definitely pull of quicks like osamu did but in terms of strength, I think Iwa chan is strong as fk. He always beats mad dog on a daily basis lmao.
it would just not really help like the thing that the little setter of shiratori zawa said himself i was trying to find a team where the setter doesnt need insane skills, i know like shiratori zawa would be too op with oikawa but an enemy (ushijima) who never let a fucking chance to the monstre oikawa to go to nationals why would he go with him to go to nationals. He would prefer just to stay with iwaizumi like they were when they were kids
i can definitely see goshiki and oikawa combination being unstoppable. goshiki got sooo much potential even tho he's still young. having oikawa to let out his best potential would be pretty nice to see.
It’s also worth noting that if Oikawa went to Shiratorizawa, Iwaizumi would likely be there too; so Shiratorizawa would not just gain a huge upgrade from Shirabu, but also another strong wing spiker who we see is not only good at attack, but also amazing at receiving if what we saw from Karasuno vs Seijoh S2 was any indication. Shiratorizawa would not just be unstoppable, but immovable too.
Osamu is a monster, he just lived under the shadow of his brother. The dude is by far one of the most complete player of Haikyuu second to monster only like Hoshiumi or Oikawa
@@Wellshem I think I could agree on this in a sense since... They will not be called "Freak Twins/Miya Twins" if one is totally lack in skill and the other one is shining.. Osamu is a well balanced player in their own team, Aran complimented Osamu for being a better overall player than Atsumu but concludes that Atsumu has the greater drive and obsession, thus resulting Atsumu to reach greater heights.. But, it should be noted that... Osamu's overall skill is also inferior to Hoshiumi, Oikawa/Atsumu, Aran and even Suna cause he is not a player that is focused on a single position.. Or he is overshadowed by Aran in spiking since Aran is one of the top 5 best spikers..
If he join Ushijima, he’d not be as good as he is now. He’d certainly have a more glorious high school career, but the drive itself to beat his rivals take him places
Totally agreed. Beating ushi is one of his motivation to become the best version of himself, which he will not be able to do if they are in same hs team. But i really want them to play together as a teammates tho
Not necessarily true. Remember rivals don't only have to be on the other side of the net. The person that challenges you to constantly up your game could be your teammate. I had someone like that. An upperclassman who called me out when I was slacking or challenged me to work on myself. My days were like school volleyball, club volleyball, provincials, and every spare minute in between, and all because I didn't want to lose to her. I miss those days. But can totally understand the friend aspect. Most, if not all of Kitagawa Daiichi talented players ended up at Seijoh. Hell, even Kageyama was invited, but he too wanted to beat tough opponents, hence his reason for going to Karasuno. It's still fun to imagine though. But you can't deny the pleasure one gets from the Iwaoi tandem.
@@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei this is true. The duo is a comic skit on their own. But every team has their duo. I imagine Ushiwaka and Oikawa would like kagehina, just 100x worse 🤣🤣🤣.
Knowing Oikawa's story, a part of me hopes that Argentina beats Japan at the 2021 Olympics just so he can whip all of their asses at once. Mwahahahaha(evil laugh)! But that would also be really difficult to imagine as Kageyama hasn't even peaked yet and neither has any of the other players on Japan's national roster. Still, I don't know how anyone can hate Oikawa, he's hella funny. Kids got a passion like no other. Those insane hours of training and constantly trying to improve himself... I can relate.
If Oikawa joined Shiratorizawa, they'd become a team very much similar to Inarizaki, tho a little less in versatility but a step stronger in power and attack.
Oikawa is my favorite and yeah, I firmly believe that a Shiratorizawa team with Oikawa as a setter will allow them to conquer Japan, even matching up with the likes of Itachiyama and Inarizaki. I firmly believe that the foundation of a powerful volleyball team (even in real life) relies on a powerful spiker and setter combo. If you have a powerful spiker with an amazing setter, you are kind of guaranteed to become a strong ass team. We all know that Itachiyama is an insanely powerful team because they have a top 3 spiker in Sakusa and a setter who won the Best Setter Award in the Junior Olympics in Tsukasa, implying that their team has the services of a top-tier setter. Same goes for Inarizaki with a top-tier setter in Atsumu (who is arguably the best setter in the series) with a top 5 spiker in Ojiro. Adding Oikawa (whom I consider a top 5 setter in Japan) to Shiratorizawa with Ushijima creates a powerful spiker-setter tandem that can match up with Itachiyama's Sakusa-Tsukasa and Inarizaki's Atsumu-Ojiro. Combining Ushijima's insane offensive repertoire with Oikawa's floor general-type abilites, leadership and playmaking that elevates the play of his teammates will surely allow Shiratorizawa to remain at the top 5 of Japan at the least. P.S. imagine if Ushijima was the one Oikawa tossed to at the near-end of the Seijoh-Karasuno match, it would have probably been the worst case scenario for Karasuno.
when I started watching the series, my thoughts on the teams were that they're obviously a kind of a family. but in season 3 this didn't happen to me. I felt like instead of a family they were a bunch of guys who join a sort of a dictatorship by they own will and hoping to fullfill expectations not because they want to achieve them by their own, but to make proud washijo. I think he has a LOT to do with the dynamics of shiratorizawa team (blame), the way he perceived the volleyball world around him when he was younger, you can see that reflected on his attitude towards hinata at the beginning of season 4, I hated him for that. because of this goal in washijo mindset, shirabu and the others can't grow or develop the skills they were supposed to, because they are so committed to feed the chart of goals of ushijima, even he says it! he says to kags and hinata "we don't need a setter who doesn't focus on the as" I mean, how ridiculous this can be? they don't understand what a team is, they are just like servants, and poor goshiki thinks he has the best references to grow and become stronger... I say poor goshiki cause my thoughts on him are "you should go to aoba johsai" where you can find teammates that teach you for real how a good environment can make such great things for you. about fukurodani, I think they have great players, they don't stand out cause their labor is to be pillars of bokuto the way he is for the whole team since he is indeed better than his team mates, but you see, bokuto wants recognition with this team, not on his own, he is humble and stronger and recognizes the force and vitality in other players when he sees it (not like wakatoshi saying they cannot make it if the grow from concrete) and akaashi is certainly a good setter, even if he has some trouble we the overthinkers have sometimes. but again, even nekoma, they are different kind of families (kuroo says sth about it to lev when he still wanted to do things on their own without considering the others members) maybe because of all these things I said, I never liked shiratorizawa, and I'm so glad oikawa had his pride, for me is not worthless at all, he understood the power of teams and that could never ever matched with wakatoshi playing style.
ok idk why im tearing up, but i feel so happy oikawa is getting the respect and love he deserves in this video! all to their own opinions and i do not hate nor want to be mean or disrespectful anyones opinion, but i just hate how some ppl hate oikawa and diss his character bec he appears to be "selfish" and "self absorbed" and "cocky" like yes he is confident and he shows it! but he is a great character! and he deserves a lot of love and attention! i sometimes wonder what would've happened if the story was based on oikawa instead of hinata and kageyama.
Actualllly shiratorizawa's whole thing is to blast through the blocks with ushijima. This is why shirabu, the virtually non-offensive setter starts over semi, the aggressive, better setter who wants to prove his worth. Oikawa who likes to use everyone AND do some hits himself probably wouldn't work well with the old coach's theme.
Even if Oikawa had to do the exacltly Same work of shirabu. Is a Better blocker and a way Better server. Just changing these two things. Shiratorizawa would have beated karasuno in straight set. I mean. I can't see how oikawa couldn't get two Aces for set, while shirabu Just serve on the libero😂.
Late reply but just because Ushijima would likely get less tosses, this doesn’t mean Shiratorizawa’s offense would be weaker. Oikawa’s ability to use everyone on a team would allow Ushijima to conserve his stamina and play at his best for longer. I’m sure the coach would be okay with Ushijima scoring less, if the entire team is scoring more.
@@dominicl118 nah. the coach practically worships Ushijima. He said he wants pure, simple power that can crush any opponent they have. Washijo sees everything he wanted in Ushijima. I don't think he'd like it if the setter was not devoted to the ace. He likes players that are strong and relies on them. That's why Shiratorizawa was just "adding" while Karasuno was "multiplying". That's even the reason why he disliked Coach Ukai because his method of playing only wants the ace to be the star, not the entire team.
@@shinobutterfly3854 dude, ushijiama himself oikawa would be better off with shiratorizawa, why all of a sudden you are an expert in volley when u probably only knew it thru this anime.
@@shinobutterfly3854 the coach would probably completely be against Oikawa's playstyle at first but in the long run, he would have to compromise. With Oikawa on the Shiratorizawa roster, he'd undoubtedly be the starting setter. In terms of setting, serves and overall play. There's no way the coach wouldn't utilise Oikawa even if it means he'd have to concede and change ideologies. Oikawa is too stubborn to compromise himself when it comes to his volleyball philosophy. Ushijima would probably come to support Oikawa considering how much he values Oikawa's skills as a player. So, in such a hypothetical situation, there would be upheaval in the team strategy in the beginning but it'd get sorted with time.
Would Oikawa have developed to have his diversity of talent if he already had 1 great weapon? It might have made Oikawa more reliant on 1 dominant weapon rather than just improving Shiratoriwaza. Also if Karasuno plays Shiratorizawa twice, maybe they get far better than they did in the original timeline. If Karasuno has to play the Ushijima twice, they would have more experience. Maybe that means Karasuno's receiving gets vastly better over the break as well as the rest of their game.
That would be assuming that if the first game was tight that Shiratorizawa would not improve as much as Karasuno would and instead of finding newer and better ways, they relatively stay stagnant, which, knowing Oikawa and Ushiwaka, is highly unlikely. And it's also assuming that if the first game was one sided, that Karasuno would make a rather unrealistic leap in ability to surpass Shiratorizawa. That's a lot of assumptions that wouldn't make all that much sense given the character we're given. Oikawa is not like Kageyama was earlier on who once told Hinata "I'll pass only who I have to to win". He is prideful and was already Ushiwaka's rival in middle school volleyball. Had they been on the same team, the most-likely assumption would be that his pride would make him seek other players (combined) as frequently as he would do Ushiwaka (like the video states) because that would give his team more unpredictability and success.
The harder the opposing team is, doesn’t mean the more you improve. Look at any pro sport and the teams with top 10 players always win not the teams that need to develop the most and they play against the same teams multiple times a season
@@ebrimajallow3165 it wouldnt be an unrealistic reach in the ability to surpass this universe's timeline, it would be a 9/10 game where Karasuno won the 1/10 chance game, like USA losing to the Soviet Union 10-3 3 days before olympics, then beating the USSR 4-3 in the semi-finals of the medal rounds in 1980
Tooru was happy at Aoba Josai. If it was all about success then he would’ve chosen Shiratorizawa. No matter which path he chose, he strived for the same destination. He didn’t want to go to Shiratorizawa but if he did go, wouldn’t he feel as though he’s living a lie even if he did acquire a place at Nationals? While his efforts and skills were true, he probably would have felt empty each time he won. He did not regret choosing Aoba Josai but if he did choose Shiratorizawa, I feel like he would be regretful. He stood true to his values and I respect him so much for that. After all, not everyone is brave enough to stay true to their values and be honest with their emotions because of the pressure from society. People often say their goals achieved feel plastic because of this. While they may have achieved their goals, they don’t feel accomplished; maybe simply because they didn’t stay true to who they are and what they really wanted. And some things are just not about the result but rather the process. No matter what others would say, staying true to your values and following a path you believe is right for you would bring success to you if you try enough. Sure, sometimes the path you choose might not be easy but it only makes the victory worth more.
It is funny how we don't even think If Shiratorizawa could beat Karasuno, we just move to If they could win national kjskajd Spoiler! In the manga, we see how Iwaizumi help Ushijima to change his 'simplistic' spike to that almost impossible to receive spike, so If we take that Oikawa was the brain of Seijoh he will certainly made that change sooner and would change a lot the way Shiratorizawa plays. I think that what would change everything would be the fact that Oikawa is so damn smart in a way that only he and Kenma are (I actually enjoy that sadistic way of play they have) so yeah, way to have an almost perfect team with just adding one member.
actually it wasn't iwaizumi who helps ushijima. he tells ushijima he could be better and ushijima says that he and his coach are working on something as well. I don't think oikawa going to shiratorizawa would've changed his playing style because what made him change it was that he was working with a national team coach/club team coach.
@@sushil6974 Ushijima is confident, he already thought he was the best, thus he doesn't need to change anything about his plays. But when he had a change of environment with stronger opponents, he realized that he wasn't, and with his coach he change. If Oikawa was his teammate, he would have humbled him down long ago and suggest him to change, so he can be the best version of himself as a player, after all that's Oikawas main strength, to bring the best out of every player. You should look up Furudates version of *”dream team”* it’s Oikawa with Ushijima and there’s a reason for that.
i would say that oikawa and ushijma sorta represent what could've been if hinata and kageyama hadn't been on the same team, just farther along their own paths, hinata wouldn't be as strong as ushiwaka and kageyama would probably still be a bad team player, or at least not a good one
to be fair, oikawa being on shiratorizawa would've meant they COULD fight for the nationals. could they? that's subjective. as we get to know later on in the manga (spoilers from now) itachiyama's captain and setter was awarded the best setter in the junior olympic tournament so we are seeing a pair in their captain/sakusa that can be even better (subjective) than atsumu/aran and oikawa/ushijima. on top of that, could they beat inarizaki? ushijima is better than aran but atsumu would easily make up the difference and osamu i'd say at this point is good as goshiki. I'd personally think inarizaki would beat them as it'd come down to the setter and atsumu is regarded the best setter in the nation but it'd be a close game and anyone can win (and therefore subjective). another thing we need to consider is how good hoshiumi is as this is where things truly become subjective. despite not being a "top 5 ace", his only weakness is his height. kamomedai is said to be one of the best blockers in the country and having hoshiumi, who can do everything, would give them a chance to stop ushiwaka and counter with hoshiumi. infact, this game would've pushed hoshiumi since he'd be facing ushijima. he'd have this attitude of "he's your ace? let me show you what it means to be an ace". he'd wanna prove badly how his height is not gonna stop him and that his height isn't a sign of incompetence. i perosonally think shiratorizawa with oikawa would beat them, but it'd be 50/50 as well since hoshiumi is one of the best spikers out there. as to your point about oikawa lacking satisfaction/motivation, you could also say seeing atsumu would push oikawa further. seeing kageyama pushed him, what if he saw atsumu and his selfless and demanding sets in the flesh? He'd truly understand where his ceiling is and would push him to be even better. yes, you're right in that he'd not feel satisfied to win with shiratorizawa but he'd have found a brand new motivation and a new rival in miya atsumu, the same way it pushed kageyama. lastly, all this is based on the assumption that washijou sensei will let oikawa be himself. that's highly unlikely though since washijou sensei made shirabu the setter even though semi was the better and more talented setter. he'd have no issue in benching oikawa as well. this would've stifled oikawa's growth and he'd not have been as good as he is now. and if this is the case, both inarizaki and kamomedai would stop shiratorizawa hard. in the manga, there's a panel where tendou says how annoying rintaro's spikes are which means they faced and lost to inarizaki (since inarizaki only lost to itachiyama).
@@samuelsoliday4381 yea but that was because his plays aren't connected directly to ushijima. It doesn't matter if he guess blocks or read blocks, as long he blocks. But when it comes to his setters, it doesn't matter whether u set well or set bad, you should set it to ushijima. He has a simple ideology, strength. That's why ushijima doesn't receive serves, his job is to spike and the setter's job is to set it to him. Ofcourse u can't always set it to him, that's why washijou sensei prefers spikers who are tall and strong. This ideology makes sense since he's a highschool coach.
you're underestimating oikawa too much, first and foremost I think that atsumu is actually the better setter/server between them and more flashy but I think that Oikawa is more consistent than Atsumu, plus he is a far better team player than Atsumu. Their skills are not that far, only I can think of why Oikawa never won the best setter award in the nation is because he never made it to Nationals before because of Ushijima but if he had ever went to Nationals atleast once or twice since junior high, he would probably win the best setter award atleast once.
Also Washijou sensei wouldn't have any problems with Oikawa's playstyle because he has a simple philosophy wherein if a player's playstyle is effective for their team and maybe even better for the team, he wouldn't think twice to let Oikawa to do his playstyles.
@@angeloacuna7819 underestimating? Dude Atsumu got called to an all japan training camp along with sakusa, hoshiumi and kageyama. You don't get called to those things unless you're consistent and a team player. Furudate sensei used both of them as a reference point for kageyama, oikawa being the benchmark that kageyama should meet and Atsumu being the true potential/ceiling for kageyama. Atsumu got a standing ovation from ukai sensei. Sure oikawa had a very flashy and difficult set to iwaizumi in the last game but Atsumu did those sort of things throughout the inarizaki match, like the set from a direct block to osamu which gave osamu the option to spike or set it to aran(I'm talking about the rally where hinata pulls the clutch receive but karasuno loses a point anyway), or the set where aran messes up a receive and Atsumu converts his landing motion from a block to give a overhanded set to another spiker. And it's not like they invited only the players from teams at national tournaments to the youth camp. The broccoli head that was eating with kageyama at the camp was talking to kageyama about his school (one of the fukurodani group schools) losing in the finals and not making it to nationals (if I'm correct, so please read the manga if you wanna verify) so they were looking out for players that didn't make nationals meaning they would've known about oikawa but they didn't see in him what they saw in Atsumu or what they saw in itachiyama's setter.
This is a thoughtful and excellent analysis! I think it’s worth noting that the hypothetical story you’ve outlined, which seems quite accurate, hinges on Oikawa having the freedom to change Shiratorizawa’s entire identity- and I’m not sure that would be the case. After all, his desire to conquer Ushijima himself wasn’t the only thing that prompted Oikawa to reject Shiratorizawa- it’s also Washijo’s foundational philosophy. I think the fact that Shirabu is on the court at all, when Shiratorizawa already has a setter with superior ability AND experience, is testament to this- Washijo CHOSE to put him there. Even if Oikawa had “gone to Shiratorizawa,” Washijo’s system might have crushed him. I honestly have no idea how much flexibility Oikawa’s superior skills would grant him when he’s actually on the court, if the ultimatum that he must “always pass to Ushijima if possible” remains unchanged. As Oikawa himself states, he believes that there is “nothing wrong with the volleyball I chose.” The philosophy he’s painstakingly created, born from his middle school conversation with Iwaizumi, is at complete odds with everything Shiratorizawa stands for. Like you said, he wants to win his way- and while that isn’t Ushijima’s way, it isn’t Washijo’s way, either.
Just watched this video, it was fanastic. seriously one of the best haikyuu related videos I've seen and I've seen quite a bit to the say least. Good work!
I like this! But I feel like a part was missing. As in the clash of ideologies between Washijo sensei being textbook and “archaic” with offensive plays and on the contrast of Oikawa’s reckless, efficient, combination offensive plays. Shiratorizawa with Oikawa would seem unbeatable. Even going against teams with a high blocking rate they’d still edge out a little better. The question is, what if they did go against a team like that who could stop Ushijima and was capable of marking players against the net. in the Block Miyagi was seeded in had Kamomedai as their match up for the Semi Finals. I would beg to differ and think that Kamomedai would win. If they have assertive “read blockers” with one of their gifted players at 6”7, don’t you think they could stop Ushijima and definitely catch up with Oikawa’s setting style. Kamomedai were stated to be Dateko but better with an U19 National ace. On their offense. They have Hoshiumi who can hit above Tendou’s guess blocking.They have an assertive blocker Hirugami and a 6”7 first year as one of their spikers. Alongside that, defensively they can keep up with long rallies and players like Ushijima and Goshiki. I can say Oikawa can get reckless like Atsumu does, If his players get blocked because of that and his choice of reckless combination plays with hardly any back up for their spikers getting blocked, Washijo is strict on his archaic plays and Oikawa might get subbed, Kamomedai might have that edge.
Only reason I truly don't want this happening other than Karasuno having a way harder time is that IwaOi wouldn't be in the same place anymore like the very thought just makes me sad-
One thing to take into consideration is that even tho the addition of oikawa to shiratorizawa makes the team to have a skill level similar to inarazaki and itachiyama i think that the fact that oikawa if oikawa experienced a national competicion his skill would hace increased (as we all saw happened to karasuno players) since he is a person that gets motivation out of challenges,(he became one of the best japan setters just from the will to beat ushijima and make it to nationals), so. I think that in this scenario oikawa would be easily in the top 2 setters of japan
But what if Oikawa went to Karasuno? He would have brought out the best in almost all the players there sooner than expected. Up to now, I would love to see Oikawa vs Kageyama. Or Oikawa vs Atsumu. For me though, Oikawa is still the best, not only as a setter, but also someone who brings out the best on a player, and as a person. You should check out (spoilers) how he helped Hinata grow in the Brazil Arc. If he awoken Hinata *if Oikawa went to Karasuno* sooner, even if Kageyama went to Shiratorizawa, it will be a close fight, but Karasuno winning it because of Asahi, Tanaka, and Hinata are on their best shape. Not to mention Tsuki also awoken his spirit by himself and their ever-reliable libero Nishinoya, they are still bound to nationals and might also compete for the championships.
Everyone saying it would stunt Oikawa's growth but imo it will not stunt his growth because he's naturally competitive and Iwa already instilled in him during middle school that 6 together is better so he would retain that mindset. He can find rivalry in Ushijima even as a team just look at Kageyama and Hinata. Oikawa just raises the floor and ceiling of Shiratorizawa. If he was in there the attacks and their over reliant on Ushijima becomes less and they'll conserve more of his energy. Spoilers Feels good though knowing Oikawa been beating Japan's asses in international lmao.
He would definitely clash with coach Washijo though. Oikawa is established to fit into any team, and get them to do what he wants, but when Washijo wants a completely different playstyle it may cause confusion amongst the team
@@rim7115 maybe but coach Washijo's philosophy is simple power that destroys everything. With Oikawa that power will be enhanced and it will add diversity to his team. Like when Iwa wanted to break the iron wall he catered to it. Oikawa's setting is to cater to the spikers on his team while coach Washijo's philosophy is having a giant canon. Combined it's a team that caters the canons while adding diversity to the attack.
I'm gonna be really honest here, if Oikawa was actually in Shiratorizawa, I would find the chances of Karasuno beating Shiratorizawa super low. Like Oikawa & Ushiwaka is like an undefeatable duo together- no joke. Unless they faced like Itachiyama or something, because they have Kiyoomi who is also one of the Top 3 Aces of Japan (With Ushiwaka), and Tsukasa Iizuna, who won the best setter award, that Oikawa also won.
Good Video, I noticed that at 7:13 it sounds like you said Otsuma twins when talking about the Miya Twins, I think you used a combination of their first names (Atsumu and Osamu) instead of using thieir last name Miya when refering to the both
Interesting video, got me thinking what it would be like if kageyama or Hinata ended up on a completely different team like Shiratoizawa or Nekoma instead of Kuransuno 🤔
I'm just saying Hinata gets along super well with everyone in Shiratorizawa (he literally beat them all and then made friends with everyone there like some sort of hypnotic vampire lmao). If he did start in Shiratorizawa unlike all the first years he's not scared to talk to Ushijima once he understand he's not going to get beat up in the bathroom. He would have literally stalked the entire team and be a ball boy for them whether they want him or not. Hinata is scrappy enough to take the coach's anger and hungry enough to do the 100 penalty serves and sprint up 5 hills for being an annoying little shit before coming back and picking up balls for Goshiki. Omg actually Shiratorizawa has a dorm this child never has to go home he's going to be like dobby the house elf but for the gym😂.
If hinata ended up on nekoma the first thing they would see from his athletic skill wouldn't be the super attack kageyama sees, it would be how incredible he could be for defending with the kind of instincts he has. we see how hinata's ability to essentially read the entire court to predict where the ball was going is incredible for having literally just been learnt, with accurate preidctions that so far almost always seem to be dead on correct, kind of like guess blocking but for receiving. Nekoma would take that and polish it quicker, probably leaidng to a hinata who's not a monster for his spikes, but a mosnter for the fact that his existence (going by what we see of hinata in nationals and how he almost always manages to correctly read the game and predict the ball's movements) would essentially allow nekoma the freedom of a spiker with libero level skills (keeping in mind that hinata starting at nekoma means he'd have trained his amazing ability to read balls to receive them much faster than in canon). Also we have seen him in karasuno vs shiratorizawa. His speed allows him to dig up balls that are ridiculously far out of bounds and his instincts allow him to chase even a ball that seems like it's flying out of court faster than kenma can strategize. They fucking called him spiderman because of that wall stunt to dig up a ball my man's has untapped defensive potential come on nishinoya start taking him as your disciple already. And kenma is smart enough to recognize a hidden blade when he sees one. Nekoma, known purely for defending and connecting, could suddenly pull out hinata as a wild card with his sudden burst of speed and decoy work, and become a random burst of attacking power which the enemy team can't predict. Hinata would lose his freak quick yes, but what this means is simply that hinata's development would be backwards. He'd learn defensive moves with sloppier attacks before later on learning to refine and polish his attack with his speed and athleticty. By nationals, i imagine hinata would be a much more well rounded player, but one who can randomly boost the team's attacking power on a dime simply by switching from nekoma's defensive to hinata shouyou's erratic movements which are really only effective because he switches fast enough to catch the enemy blockers off guard. Kageyama would simply always be benched until he learns how to do teamwork, and without hinata, daichi and suga to smack the teamwork into him, he'd probabaly spend his first yeat benched andnjust trying to figure out how to work by relying on a team and not demanding from them. Kageyama without hinata would still be the same king of the court in middle school. At least imo. If he does start to understand teamwork before nationals.... I still think he'd be backup because he doesn't have a hinata to catch his super fast king's tosses and if put into the game would honestly probabaly still try it without hinata. we can't forget that a good chunk of kags' development comes from daichi literally smacking teammate into him after all.
Probably, with oikawa, shiratorizawa could have won and gone to nationals(?), although personally I don't think they would have won... But I think that if he had done it, he wouldnt have that vision of team play that he has in seijoh (which is one of its strong points, especially since he's the setter). As we see, the ideals of shiratorizawa are individual strength. I never thought oikawa would fit in there. Not because it has a "bad" relationship with ushijima, but bc without seijoh, he would have continued to focus on improving his own skills without paying attention to the rest of the team. I think it would have been a bad decision for him, sorry ushijima
But he did in the end leave iwaizumi to pursue his dream though.. the reason he hell bent not go to shiratorizawa is cuz of his pride that got crush by ushijima. Owaizumi is a great friend but oikawa wont put his dream and development on hold just cuz iwaizumi aint there
I think this perfection is why he didnt go, that “useless pride”. Oikawa wants to be that guy because he knows he’s that good enough to be.. but inevitably the curse of the ordinary would inevitably catch up canonically. Besides, he couldn’t leave Iwaizumi alone after all.
If Oikawa goes to Shiratorizawa, somebody is definitely poised to either go to Karasuno or Aoba Johsai to beat Shiratorizawa that can open up an even more interesting storyline
If Oikawa was on Shiratorizawa, Shiratorizawa sweeps Miyagi easily, and probably does extremely well in Nationals. In one moment where Suuna was describing Tsukki's blocking in s4, he didn't describe it as a scary block and compared him to other blockers who shut him out, and Tendo is one of the people he thinks of, so I still think that they won their match against Inarizaki canonically, so I still think the buffed Shiratorizawa would destroy many teams
If oikawa join shiratorizawa, shiratorizawa might be the best japan's high school team, cause just like he said in this video oikawa could bring the best of every player in his team while shiratorizawa doesn't have someone like oikawa, there is a lot of talented player there but there is no one who could bring out the best of them. Especially with their serve, oikawa's serve is like a bullet while ushiwaka's serve is like a cannon and with washijo's Sparta training oikawa's serve might get scarier....there is only 10% chance of someone perfect receiving those serves
This duo is just scary, someone who knows the tendencies and where to put the ball each and every time to draw out a monster lefty in volleyball that can bounce over 3 man blocks while making sure that the blockers can’t read his sets would be scary. Think about it like this you have a inconsistent young outside know with Oikawa he will definitely be smarter and more confident in his skills. The red hair guy I forgot his name would get set every once in a while but it would be always a great set all the while he can also devour the opposing setter (middle blocker pressure hits different when they can read you without trying). A lefty who was destroying opponents with a middle school rated setter will know get Oikawa imagine if they do a slight tempo ball that’s scary to think abt. And every one else on Oikawa’s court having 100% confidence in their setter. Now Oikawa what people tend to forget is his preparation prior to matches understanding tendencies and making his opponents have to think more which sucks in a fast pace game. He would make sure that the teams defense is elite this Hypothetical Shiratorizawa team would practically destroy every team. Date Tech? How would they stop a power like Ushijima if he is a Asahi to the third he’d destroy the blockers or force them to soft block. Osamu’s team… how would they fight Oikawa’s preparation on the defensive side of the game he’d orchestrate his blockers to make sure they pick up most balls and serve to where they wouldn’t pass. And now Ushijimas serves would be more precise which is terrifying imagine a high schooler trying to pass a serve going probably 80+ kmh with a lefty spin going in seams and deep corners? This team would destroy anyone
Shirabu Is so talented you're underestimating him for me he is the most talented setter if shirabu reached his full potential he might be better setter than oikawa,kageyama and Miya atsumu
One flaw in this analysis is that you're assuming they'd play karasuno's schedule for nationals when in reality they probably would be a seeded team becasue they'd probably place higher or maybe win the Inter High
Roasted?? Why? Oikawa got a sweet ending. Spoiler: In the latest Haikyuu one shot, he's also the starting setter in Team A over Miya Atsumu. They also lowkey implied Argentina won over Japan at the Olympics lol. Oikawa got one of the best, if not the best, endings in the whole manga. 100% deserved as well.
Someone told me that their bench setter was actually better then Shiberu but was less Ushijima reliant. The coach affected their play but Oikawa is too good not use.
imagine this lineup for a miyagi's prefecture team to compete in nationals: opposite: ushiwaka setter: oikawa libero: nishinoya wing spikers: iwaizumi, asahi middle blockers: satori, aone monster lineup would win everything
Pride that is worthless is just arrogance. Oikawa isn’t arrogant. He has all the skills to back his talk. He wanted to enjoy Volleyball and his friendships at the same time. He used everything he learns as he plays to get better. I think he’s the best setter in Haikyuu because he truly gets the most out of his players and doesn’t need to steal their hitter’s accomplishments. He also looks for his future and what’s going to lead him to his best. He just doesn’t get the recognition from not going to the nationals because his team is crap. Asahi isn’t better than Tanaka. Asahi is bigger and stronger but he’s not a better. Tanaka has way more range. He had the stability Asahi wished he had. To be the Ace you need to be the guy your team can depend on every play. Asahi isn’t that guy.
Tbh it would be op if oikawa went to shiratorizawa, but for the sake of the anime I still think they would let Karasuno win. But it would be extremely close or something like that.
I don't think his talent would be able to bloom because of coach washijo's ideology of how a team should play. No teamwork, everything to ushijima no need for a setter who can't serve the ace of the team. I think that is also the reason why Semi is on the bench.
I see this argument a lot and to an extent I agree. But personally, I think that the coach would eventually have to change tactics and compromise on his "the setter's only purpose is to serve the spiker" ideology. If Oikawa was on Shiratorizawa, he'd undoubtedly be the starting setter. He also adds a lot of value with his serves and all round play. There's no way the coach wouldn't try and utilise him. Ushijima would also come around to support Oikawa considering how much he values Oikawa's skills as a player. So there would be conflict in the beginning but they'd figure things out eventually.
Just one point on this great video. The coach. I cannot give volleybiol exemples, but we have plenty exemples with football/soccer, if a player does not fit a coach filosofy, don matther how good they may be, they will not play. And the coach in this case only changes after the karasumo's game. So i don't think it as a slum dunk as you are saying. Pirlo, Kaka etc etc. Great video though
We of course know ushijima wanted oikawa on the team. But what about the shiratorizawa coach? Would he welcome and support oikawas setting style? Or would there mentalities clash? What do you guys think?
Definite clash of personalities. I see 3 outcomes. 1. They keep clashing on playstyles and confuse the team dynamic 2. Washijo resigns to Oikawa's way and Shiratorizawa essentially lose their coach 3. Oikawa doesn't get to play
@@rim7115 I mean that the coach did put shirabu in as the starting setter over semi. Even if semi was better at setting, because semi didn't play to serve the ace. And I just can't imagine oikawa commiting to this philosophy of serving just the ace. He is the type of player to get the best out of all his teammates and also seems to like to do some plays where he himself shines.
Oikawa is my favorite setter. Tho his personality sucks. The talent that he has not only is so advanced among his peers and rivals but his skills to improve the team members talent to max level is his strongest pursuit. It is just that Aoba Johsai’s players need more time to reach that. Sadly he would be there only until 3 years. That is why what he says to Mad Dog surely hit home. “Ah! I am so happy I got to play on the team while Oikawa-san was still here.”
I honestly feel like this is a little bit Utopic 😅😅 1_ shiratorizawas team focuses entirely on Ushijima, the members on the team are not exactly in the court because they are good, but because they help Ushijima while letting him get all the applauses. That's also one of the biggest reasons why shirabu is the setter and not eita semi (their back up setter) who is a much better setter than shirabu, this was explained by the coach himself. Eita likes to shine, likes to get the applauses and that's why the coach decides to not make him the official setter, instead making shirabu, a guy who doesn't mind not being noticed if that means Ushijima gets to shine, the official setter. Do you really think Oikawa has the same mindset as shirabu?? 😅😅 Do you think he would let Ushijima shine all by himself?? I don't think so. That's one of the reasons I think Oikawa and the coach washijo would have some problems, due to the fact that oikawa wouldn't follow shiratorizawas mindset of focusing just on the ace. 2_ volleyball is a team game, is based on the trust each player has on their teammates. After oikawas and Ushijima's history and what happened on middle school i don't think they would have that level of trust that volleyball needs. You also say that oikawa and Ushijima would be great leaders, i actually think that oikawas pride wouldn't let Ushijima be a leader easily. 3_ let's say that they do beat inarizaki and nekoma, they still have Fukurodani. You say that with bokutos usual mood swings it would be easier to beat them, but, as we see in the manga (spoilers ahead), during fukurodanis vs Mujinazaka bokuto promises his team that he will be reliable (something that due to his mood swings he wasn't) from then on, that's the moment when bokuto finally managed to control and stop his mood swings. That means that by the moment shiratorizawa would have to play against Fukurodani, bokuto had already been able to control his mood swings. But let's say they beat Fukurodani, They still have to face kamomedai with Korai hoshiumi, who's basically a Hinata but much better at volleyball, and Hirugami, one of the best bloquers in highschool volleyball. And they would still have Itachiyama and Inubushi
Imagine if ushijima sent this to oikawa and he said yes-
Lol rip karasuno
He probably won't it will be tendou who will do that
Omg lol rip Iwa if that happens😂
Imagine if you had to deal with Oikawa’s serve only for it to be followed by Ushijima’s serve. So much pressure, back to back with those serves.
If I was on the opposing team's backline, I would cry. Those two can tear my arms off with their serves
bruh thatd be like 15 points with them two serving alone
they would be pretty far apart in the serving rotation since setter and oppo are opposites of each other
Its not that different than Inarizaki. They had Atsumu, Osamu, and Aran blasting cannons at them non-stop. And they had a killer pinch-server too.
Karasuno 10-shiratorizawa 25
Damn Oikawa and replacing Iwa-Chan with Waka-Chan
Sometimes you need an upgrade 💅
But I think if Oikawa had went to Shiratorizawa, he would probably bring Iwaizumi along him. Well if that would ever happens, that team would be definitely the best since they have 2 ace caliber players on the team on Ushijima and Iwaizumi, I think that Iwaizumi's skill is probably equals to Osamu.
@@angeloacuna7819 yeah for sure I can see him bring Iwa but I’m just going by the scenario if he didn’t. I say Iwa is equal or Osamu on defense but I don’t see Iwa pulling off that quick.
@@kirayoshikage8007 yes he can't definitely pull of quicks like osamu did but in terms of strength, I think Iwa chan is strong as fk. He always beats mad dog on a daily basis lmao.
@@angeloacuna7819 true Iwa is probably stronger but Osamu is also a good setter.
I never thought about that. I think maybe Oikawa would have made the Shriatorizawa win and make our main characters train even harder
That team would be too OP
it would just not really help like the thing that the little setter of shiratori zawa said himself i was trying to find a team where the setter doesnt need insane skills, i know like shiratori zawa would be too op with oikawa but an enemy (ushijima) who never let a fucking chance to the monstre oikawa to go to nationals why would he go with him to go to nationals. He would prefer just to stay with iwaizumi like they were when they were kids
If oikawa join shiratorizawa, our main character would be oikawa and wakatoshi.
@@fauzanprama19 i agree with you
That’s literally what the video said in short
If Oikawa went to Shiratorizawa....
no questions asked they would at least get runner up for nationals if not win every single time.
at least in the latter half of his second year
@@seanandrews5329 oikawa is a third year
i can definitely see goshiki and oikawa combination being unstoppable. goshiki got sooo much potential even tho he's still young. having oikawa to let out his best potential would be pretty nice to see.
I don't know why, but Goshki is low key one of my favorite characters.
Perfect set and perfect spike
Okay I got chills
🙏
Thats literally our mc’s…
I thought I was it was just me
Well, Kageyama and Hinata is the same as that
" oh Iwa i got the chills😿"
It’s also worth noting that if Oikawa went to Shiratorizawa, Iwaizumi would likely be there too; so Shiratorizawa would not just gain a huge upgrade from Shirabu, but also another strong wing spiker who we see is not only good at attack, but also amazing at receiving if what we saw from Karasuno vs Seijoh S2 was any indication. Shiratorizawa would not just be unstoppable, but immovable too.
Oikawa will have a field day tossing to either ushiwaka or iwa-chan. Teams will have to pick their poison lol
"Atsumu twins" Almost did Osamu worse than Shirabu lmao
Almost
Osamu is a monster, he just lived under the shadow of his brother. The dude is by far one of the most complete player of Haikyuu second to monster only like Hoshiumi or Oikawa
This had me rolling!
@@Wellshem I think I could agree on this in a sense since...
They will not be called "Freak Twins/Miya Twins" if one is totally lack in skill and the other one is shining.. Osamu is a well balanced player in their own team, Aran complimented Osamu for being a better overall player than Atsumu but concludes that Atsumu has the greater drive and obsession, thus resulting Atsumu to reach greater heights..
But, it should be noted that... Osamu's overall skill is also inferior to Hoshiumi, Oikawa/Atsumu, Aran and even Suna cause he is not a player that is focused on a single position.. Or he is overshadowed by Aran in spiking since Aran is one of the top 5 best spikers..
@@Wellshem True
If he join Ushijima, he’d not be as good as he is now. He’d certainly have a more glorious high school career, but the drive itself to beat his rivals take him places
Totally agreed. Beating ushi is one of his motivation to become the best version of himself, which he will not be able to do if they are in same hs team. But i really want them to play together as a teammates tho
he probably wouldn’t have as much fun since all of his friends are on seijoh, making the sport less enjoyable for him
Not necessarily true. Remember rivals don't only have to be on the other side of the net. The person that challenges you to constantly up your game could be your teammate. I had someone like that. An upperclassman who called me out when I was slacking or challenged me to work on myself. My days were like school volleyball, club volleyball, provincials, and every spare minute in between, and all because I didn't want to lose to her. I miss those days. But can totally understand the friend aspect. Most, if not all of Kitagawa Daiichi talented players ended up at Seijoh. Hell, even Kageyama was invited, but he too wanted to beat tough opponents, hence his reason for going to Karasuno. It's still fun to imagine though. But you can't deny the pleasure one gets from the Iwaoi tandem.
He wouldn't have Iwa-chan to drag him away from goofing off and manage his petty moods which will make all the difference =P
@@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei this is true. The duo is a comic skit on their own. But every team has their duo. I imagine Ushiwaka and Oikawa would like kagehina, just 100x worse 🤣🤣🤣.
Knowing Oikawa's story, a part of me hopes that Argentina beats Japan at the 2021 Olympics just so he can whip all of their asses at once. Mwahahahaha(evil laugh)! But that would also be really difficult to imagine as Kageyama hasn't even peaked yet and neither has any of the other players on Japan's national roster. Still, I don't know how anyone can hate Oikawa, he's hella funny. Kids got a passion like no other. Those insane hours of training and constantly trying to improve himself... I can relate.
Girl... You should definitely check out the manga!! You will be happy
Manga gives Oikawa fans the ending we want
Argentina won 3rd place in the 2020 olympics, so its up to u
When he said "Straightforward Usijima mixed in with the clever and funny Oikawa," certain fanfictions came to my mind omg.
that is CONCERNING
If you don't mind I'd like to know the titles of those fanfics😊
It’s a whole genre. Lol
@@tsuyayaka1 that, I know but I was just asking for some good recommendations since I can't find anything
If Oikawa joined Shiratorizawa, they'd become a team very much similar to Inarizaki, tho a little less in versatility but a step stronger in power and attack.
**A time traveler touches a fly**
Oikawa: Ushijima, you should have come to Aoba Johsai
maybe in another dimension the anime would have oikawa and ushijima in the same team
All hail the great king^^
maybe in another life
@@falconko3273 no to soooooon 😭😭😭😭😭😭
That team would be goated tbh
@@falconko3273 boiii u did that on purpose didn’t u????
Atsumu(7). Osamu(11). Put them together and you get 7-11 gas station
I would die for a Shiratorizawa v Nekoma match. It would be so interesting and fun to watch.
I disagree that Ushijima would have still been the best player on Shiratorizawa. I think Oikawa is the best all round player in the prefecture
Even imagining Oikawa and Ushijima in the same team gives me chills
Oikawa is my favorite and yeah, I firmly believe that a Shiratorizawa team with Oikawa as a setter will allow them to conquer Japan, even matching up with the likes of Itachiyama and Inarizaki. I firmly believe that the foundation of a powerful volleyball team (even in real life) relies on a powerful spiker and setter combo. If you have a powerful spiker with an amazing setter, you are kind of guaranteed to become a strong ass team.
We all know that Itachiyama is an insanely powerful team because they have a top 3 spiker in Sakusa and a setter who won the Best Setter Award in the Junior Olympics in Tsukasa, implying that their team has the services of a top-tier setter. Same goes for Inarizaki with a top-tier setter in Atsumu (who is arguably the best setter in the series) with a top 5 spiker in Ojiro. Adding Oikawa (whom I consider a top 5 setter in Japan) to Shiratorizawa with Ushijima creates a powerful spiker-setter tandem that can match up with Itachiyama's Sakusa-Tsukasa and Inarizaki's Atsumu-Ojiro.
Combining Ushijima's insane offensive repertoire with Oikawa's floor general-type abilites, leadership and playmaking that elevates the play of his teammates will surely allow Shiratorizawa to remain at the top 5 of Japan at the least.
P.S. imagine if Ushijima was the one Oikawa tossed to at the near-end of the Seijoh-Karasuno match, it would have probably been the worst case scenario for Karasuno.
Thanks for actually making the video! Definitely agree with your conclusions. Oikawa's "worthless pride" IS what makes him so admirable.
when I started watching the series, my thoughts on the teams were that they're obviously a kind of a family. but in season 3 this didn't happen to me. I felt like instead of a family they were a bunch of guys who join a sort of a dictatorship by they own will and hoping to fullfill expectations not because they want to achieve them by their own, but to make proud washijo.
I think he has a LOT to do with the dynamics of shiratorizawa team (blame), the way he perceived the volleyball world around him when he was younger, you can see that reflected on his attitude towards hinata at the beginning of season 4, I hated him for that.
because of this goal in washijo mindset, shirabu and the others can't grow or develop the skills they were supposed to, because they are so committed to feed the chart of goals of ushijima, even he says it! he says to kags and hinata "we don't need a setter who doesn't focus on the as" I mean, how ridiculous this can be? they don't understand what a team is, they are just like servants, and poor goshiki thinks he has the best references to grow and become stronger... I say poor goshiki cause my thoughts on him are "you should go to aoba johsai" where you can find teammates that teach you for real how a good environment can make such great things for you.
about fukurodani, I think they have great players, they don't stand out cause their labor is to be pillars of bokuto the way he is for the whole team since he is indeed better than his team mates, but you see, bokuto wants recognition with this team, not on his own, he is humble and stronger and recognizes the force and vitality in other players when he sees it (not like wakatoshi saying they cannot make it if the grow from concrete) and akaashi is certainly a good setter, even if he has some trouble we the overthinkers have sometimes. but again, even nekoma, they are different kind of families (kuroo says sth about it to lev when he still wanted to do things on their own without considering the others members)
maybe because of all these things I said, I never liked shiratorizawa, and I'm so glad oikawa had his pride, for me is not worthless at all, he understood the power of teams and that could never ever matched with wakatoshi playing style.
ok idk why im tearing up, but i feel so happy oikawa is getting the respect and love he deserves in this video! all to their own opinions and i do not hate nor want to be mean or disrespectful anyones opinion, but i just hate how some ppl hate oikawa and diss his character bec he appears to be "selfish" and "self absorbed" and "cocky" like yes he is confident and he shows it! but he is a great character! and he deserves a lot of love and attention! i sometimes wonder what would've happened if the story was based on oikawa instead of hinata and kageyama.
Actualllly shiratorizawa's whole thing is to blast through the blocks with ushijima. This is why shirabu, the virtually non-offensive setter starts over semi, the aggressive, better setter who wants to prove his worth. Oikawa who likes to use everyone AND do some hits himself probably wouldn't work well with the old coach's theme.
Even if Oikawa had to do the exacltly Same work of shirabu. Is a Better blocker and a way Better server. Just changing these two things. Shiratorizawa would have beated karasuno in straight set. I mean. I can't see how oikawa couldn't get two Aces for set, while shirabu Just serve on the libero😂.
Late reply but just because Ushijima would likely get less tosses, this doesn’t mean Shiratorizawa’s offense would be weaker. Oikawa’s ability to use everyone on a team would allow Ushijima to conserve his stamina and play at his best for longer. I’m sure the coach would be okay with Ushijima scoring less, if the entire team is scoring more.
@@dominicl118 nah. the coach practically worships Ushijima. He said he wants pure, simple power that can crush any opponent they have. Washijo sees everything he wanted in Ushijima. I don't think he'd like it if the setter was not devoted to the ace. He likes players that are strong and relies on them. That's why Shiratorizawa was just "adding" while Karasuno was "multiplying". That's even the reason why he disliked Coach Ukai because his method of playing only wants the ace to be the star, not the entire team.
@@shinobutterfly3854 dude, ushijiama himself oikawa would be better off with shiratorizawa, why all of a sudden you are an expert in volley when u probably only knew it thru this anime.
@@shinobutterfly3854 the coach would probably completely be against Oikawa's playstyle at first but in the long run, he would have to compromise. With Oikawa on the Shiratorizawa roster, he'd undoubtedly be the starting setter. In terms of setting, serves and overall play. There's no way the coach wouldn't utilise Oikawa even if it means he'd have to concede and change ideologies. Oikawa is too stubborn to compromise himself when it comes to his volleyball philosophy. Ushijima would probably come to support Oikawa considering how much he values Oikawa's skills as a player. So, in such a hypothetical situation, there would be upheaval in the team strategy in the beginning but it'd get sorted with time.
Tendou and Kuroo meeting WITH Oikawa also being an addition??
I need this fic and I need it now.
It would be so awesome!
Would Oikawa have developed to have his diversity of talent if he already had 1 great weapon? It might have made Oikawa more reliant on 1 dominant weapon rather than just improving Shiratoriwaza.
Also if Karasuno plays Shiratorizawa twice, maybe they get far better than they did in the original timeline. If Karasuno has to play the Ushijima twice, they would have more experience. Maybe that means Karasuno's receiving gets vastly better over the break as well as the rest of their game.
That would be assuming that if the first game was tight that Shiratorizawa would not improve as much as Karasuno would and instead of finding newer and better ways, they relatively stay stagnant, which, knowing Oikawa and Ushiwaka, is highly unlikely. And it's also assuming that if the first game was one sided, that Karasuno would make a rather unrealistic leap in ability to surpass Shiratorizawa. That's a lot of assumptions that wouldn't make all that much sense given the character we're given.
Oikawa is not like Kageyama was earlier on who once told Hinata "I'll pass only who I have to to win". He is prideful and was already Ushiwaka's rival in middle school volleyball. Had they been on the same team, the most-likely assumption would be that his pride would make him seek other players (combined) as frequently as he would do Ushiwaka (like the video states) because that would give his team more unpredictability and success.
The harder the opposing team is, doesn’t mean the more you improve. Look at any pro sport and the teams with top 10 players always win not the teams that need to develop the most and they play against the same teams multiple times a season
@@ebrimajallow3165 it wouldnt be an unrealistic reach in the ability to surpass this universe's timeline, it would be a 9/10 game where Karasuno won the 1/10 chance game, like USA losing to the Soviet Union 10-3 3 days before olympics, then beating the USSR 4-3 in the semi-finals of the medal rounds in 1980
*Oikawa and Ushijima on the same team should be considered an end of the world scenario.*
Tooru was happy at Aoba Josai. If it was all about success then he would’ve chosen Shiratorizawa. No matter which path he chose, he strived for the same destination. He didn’t want to go to Shiratorizawa but if he did go, wouldn’t he feel as though he’s living a lie even if he did acquire a place at Nationals? While his efforts and skills were true, he probably would have felt empty each time he won. He did not regret choosing Aoba Josai but if he did choose Shiratorizawa, I feel like he would be regretful. He stood true to his values and I respect him so much for that. After all, not everyone is brave enough to stay true to their values and be honest with their emotions because of the pressure from society. People often say their goals achieved feel plastic because of this. While they may have achieved their goals, they don’t feel accomplished; maybe simply because they didn’t stay true to who they are and what they really wanted. And some things are just not about the result but rather the process. No matter what others would say, staying true to your values and following a path you believe is right for you would bring success to you if you try enough. Sure, sometimes the path you choose might not be easy but it only makes the victory worth more.
It is funny how we don't even think If Shiratorizawa could beat Karasuno, we just move to If they could win national kjskajd
Spoiler!
In the manga, we see how Iwaizumi help Ushijima to change his 'simplistic' spike to that almost impossible to receive spike, so If we take that Oikawa was the brain of Seijoh he will certainly made that change sooner and would change a lot the way Shiratorizawa plays. I think that what would change everything would be the fact that Oikawa is so damn smart in a way that only he and Kenma are (I actually enjoy that sadistic way of play they have) so yeah, way to have an almost perfect team with just adding one member.
actually it wasn't iwaizumi who helps ushijima. he tells ushijima he could be better and ushijima says that he and his coach are working on something as well. I don't think oikawa going to shiratorizawa would've changed his playing style because what made him change it was that he was working with a national team coach/club team coach.
Also Iwa had a sport science degree at the time, as opposed to a high school Oikawa
@@sushil6974 Ushijima is confident, he already thought he was the best, thus he doesn't need to change anything about his plays. But when he had a change of environment with stronger opponents, he realized that he wasn't, and with his coach he change. If Oikawa was his teammate, he would have humbled him down long ago and suggest him to change, so he can be the best version of himself as a player, after all that's Oikawas main strength, to bring the best out of every player. You should look up Furudates version of *”dream team”* it’s Oikawa with Ushijima and there’s a reason for that.
But Washijo would get in the way of that and bench him like he did Semi
he would of made ushijima seem even more damn op than he already is
i would say that oikawa and ushijma sorta represent what could've been if hinata and kageyama hadn't been on the same team, just farther along their own paths, hinata wouldn't be as strong as ushiwaka and kageyama would probably still be a bad team player, or at least not a good one
to be fair, oikawa being on shiratorizawa would've meant they COULD fight for the nationals. could they? that's subjective. as we get to know later on in the manga (spoilers from now) itachiyama's captain and setter was awarded the best setter in the junior olympic tournament so we are seeing a pair in their captain/sakusa that can be even better (subjective) than atsumu/aran and oikawa/ushijima. on top of that, could they beat inarizaki? ushijima is better than aran but atsumu would easily make up the difference and osamu i'd say at this point is good as goshiki. I'd personally think inarizaki would beat them as it'd come down to the setter and atsumu is regarded the best setter in the nation but it'd be a close game and anyone can win (and therefore subjective).
another thing we need to consider is how good hoshiumi is as this is where things truly become subjective. despite not being a "top 5 ace", his only weakness is his height. kamomedai is said to be one of the best blockers in the country and having hoshiumi, who can do everything, would give them a chance to stop ushiwaka and counter with hoshiumi. infact, this game would've pushed hoshiumi since he'd be facing ushijima. he'd have this attitude of "he's your ace? let me show you what it means to be an ace". he'd wanna prove badly how his height is not gonna stop him and that his height isn't a sign of incompetence. i perosonally think shiratorizawa with oikawa would beat them, but it'd be 50/50 as well since hoshiumi is one of the best spikers out there.
as to your point about oikawa lacking satisfaction/motivation, you could also say seeing atsumu would push oikawa further. seeing kageyama pushed him, what if he saw atsumu and his selfless and demanding sets in the flesh? He'd truly understand where his ceiling is and would push him to be even better. yes, you're right in that he'd not feel satisfied to win with shiratorizawa but he'd have found a brand new motivation and a new rival in miya atsumu, the same way it pushed kageyama.
lastly, all this is based on the assumption that washijou sensei will let oikawa be himself. that's highly unlikely though since washijou sensei made shirabu the setter even though semi was the better and more talented setter. he'd have no issue in benching oikawa as well. this would've stifled oikawa's growth and he'd not have been as good as he is now. and if this is the case, both inarizaki and kamomedai would stop shiratorizawa hard. in the manga, there's a panel where tendou says how annoying rintaro's spikes are which means they faced and lost to inarizaki (since inarizaki only lost to itachiyama).
Actually, he's still willing to allow people to be themselves if it works. If he wasn't then Tendo wouldn't be a starter.
@@samuelsoliday4381 yea but that was because his plays aren't connected directly to ushijima. It doesn't matter if he guess blocks or read blocks, as long he blocks. But when it comes to his setters, it doesn't matter whether u set well or set bad, you should set it to ushijima. He has a simple ideology, strength. That's why ushijima doesn't receive serves, his job is to spike and the setter's job is to set it to him.
Ofcourse u can't always set it to him, that's why washijou sensei prefers spikers who are tall and strong. This ideology makes sense since he's a highschool coach.
you're underestimating oikawa too much, first and foremost I think that atsumu is actually the better setter/server between them and more flashy but I think that Oikawa is more consistent than Atsumu, plus he is a far better team player than Atsumu. Their skills are not that far, only I can think of why Oikawa never won the best setter award in the nation is because he never made it to Nationals before because of Ushijima but if he had ever went to Nationals atleast once or twice since junior high, he would probably win the best setter award atleast once.
Also Washijou sensei wouldn't have any problems with Oikawa's playstyle because he has a simple philosophy wherein if a player's playstyle is effective for their team and maybe even better for the team, he wouldn't think twice to let Oikawa to do his playstyles.
@@angeloacuna7819 underestimating? Dude Atsumu got called to an all japan training camp along with sakusa, hoshiumi and kageyama. You don't get called to those things unless you're consistent and a team player. Furudate sensei used both of them as a reference point for kageyama, oikawa being the benchmark that kageyama should meet and Atsumu being the true potential/ceiling for kageyama. Atsumu got a standing ovation from ukai sensei. Sure oikawa had a very flashy and difficult set to iwaizumi in the last game but Atsumu did those sort of things throughout the inarizaki match, like the set from a direct block to osamu which gave osamu the option to spike or set it to aran(I'm talking about the rally where hinata pulls the clutch receive but karasuno loses a point anyway), or the set where aran messes up a receive and Atsumu converts his landing motion from a block to give a overhanded set to another spiker.
And it's not like they invited only the players from teams at national tournaments to the youth camp. The broccoli head that was eating with kageyama at the camp was talking to kageyama about his school (one of the fukurodani group schools) losing in the finals and not making it to nationals (if I'm correct, so please read the manga if you wanna verify) so they were looking out for players that didn't make nationals meaning they would've known about oikawa but they didn't see in him what they saw in Atsumu or what they saw in itachiyama's setter.
Oikawa and Ushijima is a failed version of the iconic duo, Kageyama and Hinata
Nice what if video I hope you try to do more of these
It was a lot of fun to make!!
This is a thoughtful and excellent analysis! I think it’s worth noting that the hypothetical story you’ve outlined, which seems quite accurate, hinges on Oikawa having the freedom to change Shiratorizawa’s entire identity- and I’m not sure that would be the case.
After all, his desire to conquer Ushijima himself wasn’t the only thing that prompted Oikawa to reject Shiratorizawa- it’s also Washijo’s foundational philosophy.
I think the fact that Shirabu is on the court at all, when Shiratorizawa already has a setter with superior ability AND experience, is testament to this- Washijo CHOSE to put him there.
Even if Oikawa had “gone to Shiratorizawa,” Washijo’s system might have crushed him. I honestly have no idea how much flexibility Oikawa’s superior skills would grant him when he’s actually on the court, if the ultimatum that he must “always pass to Ushijima if possible” remains unchanged.
As Oikawa himself states, he believes that there is “nothing wrong with the volleyball I chose.” The philosophy he’s painstakingly created, born from his middle school conversation with Iwaizumi, is at complete odds with everything Shiratorizawa stands for. Like you said, he wants to win his way- and while that isn’t Ushijima’s way, it isn’t Washijo’s way, either.
Just watched this video, it was fanastic. seriously one of the best haikyuu related videos I've seen and I've seen quite a bit to the say least. Good work!
I like this! But I feel like a part was missing. As in the clash of ideologies between Washijo sensei being textbook and “archaic” with offensive plays and on the contrast of Oikawa’s reckless, efficient, combination offensive plays.
Shiratorizawa with Oikawa would seem unbeatable. Even going against teams with a high blocking rate they’d still edge out a little better. The question is, what if they did go against a team like that who could stop Ushijima and was capable of marking players against the net. in the Block Miyagi was seeded in had Kamomedai as their match up for the Semi Finals. I would beg to differ and think that Kamomedai would win. If they have assertive “read blockers” with one of their gifted players at 6”7, don’t you think they could stop Ushijima and definitely catch up with Oikawa’s setting style. Kamomedai were stated to be Dateko but better with an U19 National ace. On their offense. They have Hoshiumi who can hit above Tendou’s guess blocking.They have an assertive blocker Hirugami and a 6”7 first year as one of their spikers. Alongside that, defensively they can keep up with long rallies and players like Ushijima and Goshiki.
I can say Oikawa can get reckless like Atsumu does, If his players get blocked because of that and his choice of reckless combination plays with hardly any back up for their spikers getting blocked, Washijo is strict on his archaic plays and Oikawa might get subbed, Kamomedai might have that edge.
Only reason I truly don't want this happening other than Karasuno having a way harder time is that IwaOi wouldn't be in the same place anymore like the very thought just makes me sad-
They’d dominate the Nationals. Straight Kobe and Shaq.
It would have been so amazing
its only two option, either oikawa and ushiwaka become immaculate combination, or oikawa and ushiwaka dont have chemistry and they fall
9:40 the realisation that you're totally right here hurts because Nekoma is literally one of my top three comfort teams-
You really did shirabu like that-
One thing to take into consideration is that even tho the addition of oikawa to shiratorizawa makes the team to have a skill level similar to inarazaki and itachiyama i think that the fact that oikawa if oikawa experienced a national competicion his skill would hace increased (as we all saw happened to karasuno players) since he is a person that gets motivation out of challenges,(he became one of the best japan setters just from the will to beat ushijima and make it to nationals), so. I think that in this scenario oikawa would be easily in the top 2 setters of japan
If Oikawa actually went to Shiratorizawa, they would be OP
But what if Oikawa went to Karasuno? He would have brought out the best in almost all the players there sooner than expected. Up to now, I would love to see Oikawa vs Kageyama. Or Oikawa vs Atsumu. For me though, Oikawa is still the best, not only as a setter, but also someone who brings out the best on a player, and as a person.
You should check out (spoilers) how he helped Hinata grow in the Brazil Arc. If he awoken Hinata *if Oikawa went to Karasuno* sooner, even if Kageyama went to Shiratorizawa, it will be a close fight, but Karasuno winning it because of Asahi, Tanaka, and Hinata are on their best shape. Not to mention Tsuki also awoken his spirit by himself and their ever-reliable libero Nishinoya, they are still bound to nationals and might also compete for the championships.
its sad that he never get any recognition from anyone outside of his prefecture because he never able to step foot into the national tournament.
Everyone saying it would stunt Oikawa's growth but imo it will not stunt his growth because he's naturally competitive and Iwa already instilled in him during middle school that 6 together is better so he would retain that mindset. He can find rivalry in Ushijima even as a team just look at Kageyama and Hinata. Oikawa just raises the floor and ceiling of Shiratorizawa. If he was in there the attacks and their over reliant on Ushijima becomes less and they'll conserve more of his energy. Spoilers
Feels good though knowing Oikawa been beating Japan's asses in international lmao.
He would definitely clash with coach Washijo though. Oikawa is established to fit into any team, and get them to do what he wants, but when Washijo wants a completely different playstyle it may cause confusion amongst the team
@@rim7115 maybe but coach Washijo's philosophy is simple power that destroys everything. With Oikawa that power will be enhanced and it will add diversity to his team. Like when Iwa wanted to break the iron wall he catered to it. Oikawa's setting is to cater to the spikers on his team while coach Washijo's philosophy is having a giant canon. Combined it's a team that caters the canons while adding diversity to the attack.
Iwaizumi: You should have come to Aoba Johsai
Imagine he joined then it becomes “Tobio you should’ve come to shiratorizawa” lol
Actually ushiwaka loves when he is surrounded by strong and amazing players he always want strong players around him
I'm gonna be really honest here, if Oikawa was actually in Shiratorizawa, I would find the chances of Karasuno beating Shiratorizawa super low. Like Oikawa & Ushiwaka is like an undefeatable duo together- no joke. Unless they faced like Itachiyama or something, because they have Kiyoomi who is also one of the Top 3 Aces of Japan (With Ushiwaka), and Tsukasa Iizuna, who won the best setter award, that Oikawa also won.
Good Video, I noticed that at 7:13 it sounds like you said Otsuma twins when talking about the Miya Twins, I think you used a combination of their first names (Atsumu and Osamu) instead of using thieir last name Miya when refering to the both
Omg yeah I noticed that too I was like “wha- ? who??” And yes good vid
Pfft otsuma twins XD
I have OATSumu for breakfast
Interesting video, got me thinking what it would be like if kageyama or Hinata ended up on a completely different team like Shiratoizawa or Nekoma instead of Kuransuno 🤔
Hinata trying to be a starter on Shiratorizawa would be hilarious 😂
@@aniessays Definitely, imagine the amount of bickering that would happen between him & Ushikawa 😂
@@MAMZYY_YT not only Ushijima but also the coach lmao
I'm just saying Hinata gets along super well with everyone in Shiratorizawa (he literally beat them all and then made friends with everyone there like some sort of hypnotic vampire lmao). If he did start in Shiratorizawa unlike all the first years he's not scared to talk to Ushijima once he understand he's not going to get beat up in the bathroom. He would have literally stalked the entire team and be a ball boy for them whether they want him or not. Hinata is scrappy enough to take the coach's anger and hungry enough to do the 100 penalty serves and sprint up 5 hills for being an annoying little shit before coming back and picking up balls for Goshiki. Omg actually Shiratorizawa has a dorm this child never has to go home he's going to be like dobby the house elf but for the gym😂.
If hinata ended up on nekoma the first thing they would see from his athletic skill wouldn't be the super attack kageyama sees, it would be how incredible he could be for defending with the kind of instincts he has.
we see how hinata's ability to essentially read the entire court to predict where the ball was going is incredible for having literally just been learnt, with accurate preidctions that so far almost always seem to be dead on correct, kind of like guess blocking but for receiving. Nekoma would take that and polish it quicker, probably leaidng to a hinata who's not a monster for his spikes, but a mosnter for the fact that his existence (going by what we see of hinata in nationals and how he almost always manages to correctly read the game and predict the ball's movements) would essentially allow nekoma the freedom of a spiker with libero level skills (keeping in mind that hinata starting at nekoma means he'd have trained his amazing ability to read balls to receive them much faster than in canon).
Also we have seen him in karasuno vs shiratorizawa. His speed allows him to dig up balls that are ridiculously far out of bounds and his instincts allow him to chase even a ball that seems like it's flying out of court faster than kenma can strategize.
They fucking called him spiderman because of that wall stunt to dig up a ball my man's has untapped defensive potential come on nishinoya start taking him as your disciple already.
And kenma is smart enough to recognize a hidden blade when he sees one. Nekoma, known purely for defending and connecting, could suddenly pull out hinata as a wild card with his sudden burst of speed and decoy work, and become a random burst of attacking power which the enemy team can't predict. Hinata would lose his freak quick yes, but what this means is simply that hinata's development would be backwards. He'd learn defensive moves with sloppier attacks before later on learning to refine and polish his attack with his speed and athleticty. By nationals, i imagine hinata would be a much more well rounded player, but one who can randomly boost the team's attacking power on a dime simply by switching from nekoma's defensive to hinata shouyou's erratic movements which are really only effective because he switches fast enough to catch the enemy blockers off guard.
Kageyama would simply always be benched until he learns how to do teamwork, and without hinata, daichi and suga to smack the teamwork into him, he'd probabaly spend his first yeat benched andnjust trying to figure out how to work by relying on a team and not demanding from them. Kageyama without hinata would still be the same king of the court in middle school. At least imo.
If he does start to understand teamwork before nationals.... I still think he'd be backup because he doesn't have a hinata to catch his super fast king's tosses and if put into the game would honestly probabaly still try it without hinata. we can't forget that a good chunk of kags' development comes from daichi literally smacking teammate into him after all.
But he didn’t. periodt.
The arguments in this video are very fair and would be wonderful to discuss!!!
Probably, with oikawa, shiratorizawa could have won and gone to nationals(?), although personally I don't think they would have won...
But I think that if he had done it, he wouldnt have that vision of team play that he has in seijoh (which is one of its strong points, especially since he's the setter). As we see, the ideals of shiratorizawa are individual strength. I never thought oikawa would fit in there. Not because it has a "bad" relationship with ushijima, but bc without seijoh, he would have continued to focus on improving his own skills without paying attention to the rest of the team.
I think it would have been a bad decision for him, sorry ushijima
Oikawa could never go to shiratorizawa. Not only because of his pride but he would never leave Iwaizumi's side
But he did in the end leave iwaizumi to pursue his dream though.. the reason he hell bent not go to shiratorizawa is cuz of his pride that got crush by ushijima. Owaizumi is a great friend but oikawa wont put his dream and development on hold just cuz iwaizumi aint there
Oikawa's pride brought him to Argentina
I think this perfection is why he didnt go, that “useless pride”. Oikawa wants to be that guy because he knows he’s that good enough to be.. but inevitably the curse of the ordinary would inevitably catch up canonically. Besides, he couldn’t leave Iwaizumi alone after all.
One word: Decimation.
You should do a “What if Tsukishima joined Date Tech.”
If Oikawa goes to Shiratorizawa, somebody is definitely poised to either go to Karasuno or Aoba Johsai to beat Shiratorizawa that can open up an even more interesting storyline
The shirabu dissing😂
If Oikawa was on Shiratorizawa, Shiratorizawa sweeps Miyagi easily, and probably does extremely well in Nationals. In one moment where Suuna was describing Tsukki's blocking in s4, he didn't describe it as a scary block and compared him to other blockers who shut him out, and Tendo is one of the people he thinks of, so I still think that they won their match against Inarizaki canonically, so I still think the buffed Shiratorizawa would destroy many teams
Love this! It's like Marvel's WHAT IF...? series but make it Haikyuu!! 😂
the reason why oikawa is the best 🥺💚
If oikawa join shiratorizawa, shiratorizawa might be the best japan's high school team, cause just like he said in this video oikawa could bring the best of every player in his team while shiratorizawa doesn't have someone like oikawa, there is a lot of talented player there but there is no one who could bring out the best of them. Especially with their serve, oikawa's serve is like a bullet while ushiwaka's serve is like a cannon and with washijo's Sparta training oikawa's serve might get scarier....there is only 10% chance of someone perfect receiving those serves
I don't know, and we aren't gonna find out either
In my mind oikawa toru is the greatest player because of his hardwork
The power duo oikawa and Ushijima 🛐
This duo is just scary, someone who knows the tendencies and where to put the ball each and every time to draw out a monster lefty in volleyball that can bounce over 3 man blocks while making sure that the blockers can’t read his sets would be scary. Think about it like this you have a inconsistent young outside know with Oikawa he will definitely be smarter and more confident in his skills. The red hair guy I forgot his name would get set every once in a while but it would be always a great set all the while he can also devour the opposing setter (middle blocker pressure hits different when they can read you without trying). A lefty who was destroying opponents with a middle school rated setter will know get Oikawa imagine if they do a slight tempo ball that’s scary to think abt. And every one else on Oikawa’s court having 100% confidence in their setter. Now Oikawa what people tend to forget is his preparation prior to matches understanding tendencies and making his opponents have to think more which sucks in a fast pace game. He would make sure that the teams defense is elite this Hypothetical Shiratorizawa team would practically destroy every team. Date Tech? How would they stop a power like Ushijima if he is a Asahi to the third he’d destroy the blockers or force them to soft block. Osamu’s team… how would they fight Oikawa’s preparation on the defensive side of the game he’d orchestrate his blockers to make sure they pick up most balls and serve to where they wouldn’t pass. And now Ushijimas serves would be more precise which is terrifying imagine a high schooler trying to pass a serve going probably 80+ kmh with a lefty spin going in seams and deep corners? This team would destroy anyone
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Ushijima had Oikawa envy because he saw how weak his own setter was.
Shirabu Is so talented you're underestimating him for me he is the most talented setter if shirabu reached his full potential he might be better setter than oikawa,kageyama and Miya atsumu
Bro Imagine if Aone,Oikawa,Ujishima,Kageyama and all the best players from other teams made one team... o.o
One flaw in this analysis is that you're assuming they'd play karasuno's schedule for nationals when in reality they probably would be a seeded team becasue they'd probably place higher or maybe win the Inter High
I'm pretty sure he didn't train his serves as Yamaguchi was the pinch server for him and Tsukki
bro when you were describing oikawa's pride i immediately thought of bakugo katsuki from mha
I think it's universally agreed in the haikyuu fandom that if oikawa went to shiratorizowa kurosano would have NO CHANCE
I am a huge oikawa simp and he is my favorite character in the show....still getting roasted to this day
Roasted?? Why? Oikawa got a sweet ending.
Spoiler:
In the latest Haikyuu one shot, he's also the starting setter in Team A over Miya Atsumu. They also lowkey implied Argentina won over Japan at the Olympics lol. Oikawa got one of the best, if not the best, endings in the whole manga. 100% deserved as well.
I legit spit out my water when I saw the title crying 😭
Wow the guy that makes everyone better makes everyone better.
Sorry but had to be said
Someone told me that their bench setter was actually better then Shiberu but was less Ushijima reliant. The coach affected their play but Oikawa is too good not use.
imagine this lineup for a miyagi's prefecture team to compete in nationals:
opposite: ushiwaka
setter: oikawa
libero: nishinoya
wing spikers: iwaizumi, asahi
middle blockers: satori, aone
monster lineup would win everything
Tokyo:
Wing Spiker: Bokuto
Opposite: Sakusa
Setter: Kenma or Tsukasa lizuna
Libero: Yaku
Blocker: Washio or Kuro
This team is also pretty stacked 👍
In that parallel universe Ushijima will be on Aoba jousai and he will keep saying" You should have come to Aoba jousai"😂bruh
Pride that is worthless is just arrogance. Oikawa isn’t arrogant. He has all the skills to back his talk. He wanted to enjoy Volleyball and his friendships at the same time. He used everything he learns as he plays to get better. I think he’s the best setter in Haikyuu because he truly gets the most out of his players and doesn’t need to steal their hitter’s accomplishments. He also looks for his future and what’s going to lead him to his best. He just doesn’t get the recognition from not going to the nationals because his team is crap.
Asahi isn’t better than Tanaka. Asahi is bigger and stronger but he’s not a better. Tanaka has way more range. He had the stability Asahi wished he had. To be the Ace you need to be the guy your team can depend on every play. Asahi isn’t that guy.
Best video on haiykuu
Tbh it would be op if oikawa went to shiratorizawa, but for the sake of the anime I still think they would let Karasuno win.
But it would be extremely close or something like that.
I don't think his talent would be able to bloom because of coach washijo's ideology of how a team should play. No teamwork, everything to ushijima no need for a setter who can't serve the ace of the team. I think that is also the reason why Semi is on the bench.
Oikawa won't be able to bring out his talent because shiratorizawa only wants a setter that can serve Ushijima.
I see this argument a lot and to an extent I agree. But personally, I think that the coach would eventually have to change tactics and compromise on his "the setter's only purpose is to serve the spiker" ideology. If Oikawa was on Shiratorizawa, he'd undoubtedly be the starting setter. He also adds a lot of value with his serves and all round play. There's no way the coach wouldn't try and utilise him. Ushijima would also come around to support Oikawa considering how much he values Oikawa's skills as a player. So there would be conflict in the beginning but they'd figure things out eventually.
Just one point on this great video.
The coach. I cannot give volleybiol exemples, but we have plenty exemples with football/soccer, if a player does not fit a coach filosofy, don matther how good they may be, they will not play.
And the coach in this case only changes after the karasumo's game.
So i don't think it as a slum dunk as you are saying.
Pirlo, Kaka etc etc.
Great video though
We of course know ushijima wanted oikawa on the team. But what about the shiratorizawa coach? Would he welcome and support oikawas setting style? Or would there mentalities clash? What do you guys think?
Definite clash of personalities. I see 3 outcomes.
1. They keep clashing on playstyles and confuse the team dynamic
2. Washijo resigns to Oikawa's way and Shiratorizawa essentially lose their coach
3. Oikawa doesn't get to play
@@rim7115 I mean that the coach did put shirabu in as the starting setter over semi. Even if semi was better at setting, because semi didn't play to serve the ace. And I just can't imagine oikawa commiting to this philosophy of serving just the ace. He is the type of player to get the best out of all his teammates and also seems to like to do some plays where he himself shines.
@@remyraloni8386 Great point. I think Oikawa would be a pinch server who never gets to set
This made me crie for some reason...
Could you do a what if kageyama went to shiritorizawa
ushijima and oikawa would be too powerful🖐💅
When the guy ur watching hasn’t read the manga...
Hadn’t read it when I made this video but I have now!
@@aniessays Now you know why somethings wouldn't have happened
Had no idea what team Crosssnow was until I realized he was saying Karasuno
You’re forgetting, karasuno has their secret ultimate weapon. Plot Armor
The video turns from Oikawa being a good addition to why/how Shirabu sucks...
Oikawa is my favorite setter. Tho his personality sucks. The talent that he has not only is so advanced among his peers and rivals but his skills to improve the team members talent to max level is his strongest pursuit. It is just that Aoba Johsai’s players need more time to reach that. Sadly he would be there only until 3 years. That is why what he says to Mad Dog surely hit home.
“Ah! I am so happy I got to play on the team while Oikawa-san was still here.”
Let me be the one to say it
*OIKAWA SHOULD'VE COME TO SHIRATORIZAWA*
I honestly feel like this is a little bit Utopic 😅😅
1_ shiratorizawas team focuses entirely on Ushijima, the members on the team are not exactly in the court because they are good, but because they help Ushijima while letting him get all the applauses. That's also one of the biggest reasons why shirabu is the setter and not eita semi (their back up setter) who is a much better setter than shirabu, this was explained by the coach himself. Eita likes to shine, likes to get the applauses and that's why the coach decides to not make him the official setter, instead making shirabu, a guy who doesn't mind not being noticed if that means Ushijima gets to shine, the official setter. Do you really think Oikawa has the same mindset as shirabu?? 😅😅 Do you think he would let Ushijima shine all by himself?? I don't think so. That's one of the reasons I think Oikawa and the coach washijo would have some problems, due to the fact that oikawa wouldn't follow shiratorizawas mindset of focusing just on the ace.
2_ volleyball is a team game, is based on the trust each player has on their teammates. After oikawas and Ushijima's history and what happened on middle school i don't think they would have that level of trust that volleyball needs. You also say that oikawa and Ushijima would be great leaders, i actually think that oikawas pride wouldn't let Ushijima be a leader easily.
3_ let's say that they do beat inarizaki and nekoma, they still have Fukurodani. You say that with bokutos usual mood swings it would be easier to beat them, but, as we see in the manga (spoilers ahead), during fukurodanis vs Mujinazaka bokuto promises his team that he will be reliable (something that due to his mood swings he wasn't) from then on, that's the moment when bokuto finally managed to control and stop his mood swings. That means that by the moment shiratorizawa would have to play against Fukurodani, bokuto had already been able to control his mood swings.
But let's say they beat Fukurodani, They still have to face kamomedai with Korai hoshiumi, who's basically a Hinata but much better at volleyball, and Hirugami, one of the best bloquers in highschool volleyball. And they would still have Itachiyama and Inubushi