Hey everyone! This video was much longer and had a few rewrites to make sure it was what I wanted. I'm really proud of how it turned out and appreciate any like, share, or comment - because it would be great if this video didn't flop. Also! I know I criticize Oikawa a lot in this video, but I want to clarify that I love him as a character, and what he added to the story. He's a great antagonist, but while I really like his mindset in regards to the story, the mindset in itself pretty much dooms the person to failure.
hey hiding big fan pls do a my top 10 or 20 or 50 favorite anime of all time I know it's hard and a lot of people are gonna say shit but pls do it for the fans thanks
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Like Oikawa said: “talent is something you make bloom, instinct is something you polish.” No one is born a “monster”, and you can create any talent if you try, just as you can sharpen your instincts as you try over and over again at something.
Unfortunetly life is not a page of manga. Talents do exists and our in our bodies. Literally. Whether its in muscles bones and joints, senses, ability to grasp concepts or a tendency to follow a certain perspective. People are NOT created equal. The limit of how far we can go in those areas is set since day one. Try as much as you want but thats the truth. Luckily you dont need a set of talents to be incredibly good at something. That comes from honest old fashioned hard work.
@@mordredvonumbra154 I do agree that people are born with natural skills and talents, but that alone won't take you very far unless cultivated with passion for what you're doing. As for those who aren't "talented ", I wouldn't say their limit is determined at birth. If they continuously grow with that same drive/passion and play to their strengths, wouldn't outsiders see him as talented? But like explained in the video, when two people have created completely different strengths, what really defines either of them as talented?
@@emanchi8403 it depends man. sport is a field where natural attributes kicks more than everything. obviuosly there are countless of atlhete that are not "extraordinary talented" but still with dedication, nutrition and specific training can have an extremely successful career. The problem is when this kind of people want to be the best or one of the best. The reality is that they are destined to be disappointed. that's because there are people born with a lot of talents that can blow up all your dedication. Think about shaquille O'neal, he hated training and dieting, but still is one of the most dominant nba player of all time, and what if these kind of player decide to train as much as you? then you have MJ not only had an incredible vert, inhuman speed and not normal hands, he also was near impeccable from a tecnique point of view. The real point of haikyuu is that not all the talents are that evident. Take Hyakuzawa and Hinata. You could say that Hyakuzawa is more talented, because he is taller, stronger and has longer arms. But seeing them from close you could see that hyakuzawa is not that coordinated or fast and he lacks of stamina. Instead hinata is the fastest player in haikyuu, has an absurd vert, inhuman reflexes and inhuman instinct, also he can see the wall in slow motion and has the perfect body for being a good receiver. If you would question me, Hinata is the most talented of the two, even if at the beginning you would not even bet a penny on him. But no one could know, even Hinata. That's because some talents are not that obvious, so you have to train as hard as possible to see if you can bloom your talents. the show is not teaching that hardwork can beat talent, but that some talents can't be shown before you trained. "Have you found the limits of your abilities? even though your body, technique and mind haven't been perfected?" Josè Blanco
this is actually how i kinda jokingly tell people to get their act together, whenever someone tells me "I wish i had..." "It's too bad i'm not..." i flat out tell them "then do it/get it". don't waste time complaining when you could instead be actively working to achieve something!
This message is why Haikyuu is my favorite anime. “Try your best”, “look for the best version of yourself”, that kind of messages are in almost all shounens, but what makes Haikyuu special is that you see that without any special advantage since the start. They are only kids who want to play volleyball and they try to do their best, and that’s all. No special superpowers or talents, just effort, practice and passion, things that all human being can reach and achieve.
@@username-lz3ht but haikyuu is just written exceptionally well. You can say Free gives the same moral values but the way it was presented just didn;t leave as much of an impact
That receive from Hinata was one of the most satisfying moments in all of anime. He worked so hard to get to that point and the payoff was simply amazing.
I cried when he did because I remembered all the times he practiced and how terrible he was at first like the satisfaction of something you worked so hard for really paid off. And the fact that Sugawara was someone who took time off his day to help Hinata become better is what really hit my soul🥲
It's because he worked hard to get one receive. He failed and attempted so many times, that once made it feel like he had overcame his fear; just like when Tsukishima blocked Ushijima- it's just one point, but that changes the game. The point that they've been trying and failing and attempting to get.
Always felt like haikyuu always tried to say: "you're nothing special" Though more in a way to mock shounen. No special ability, no plot armor, and you dont always win. Even if it's your last chance. All characters were put equal.
I really really LOVE THIS MESSAGE because it shows that growing is much more important than the results. You’re working towards something you love and consistently improving. That’s what matters. I tend to not like feel good anime where things always go well for the mc so I got so hooked by Haikyuu’s way of storytelling
as a competitor my favourite part about the ballboy arc is that it so perfectly showcases the moment you stop just going through the motions and start thinking about the little optimizations and situations in order to improve
@@HidinginPublic yet he could have done it a different way instead of breaking the rules and not really getting punished for any of it just because he's the "precious mc"
@@Killerqueen2000 it’s less that he’s the mc and more that Hinata has high social skills and mental fortitude, honestly if he had the technical skill for it he would be an amazing setter The punishment was to be embarrassed by being delegated to ball boy when he’s known for wanting to play volleyball and spike but because of his own mental fortitude he was able to handle that “degradation” of being ball boy and improve. The thing is there are other characters who would’ve accepted the punishment just like Hinata, such as Nishinoya and Kageyama. These are characters who either have learned to push through hardship and their own pride in an attempt to grow and develop. I got off topic a bit but moral is, regardless of Hinata being the mc or not it was his mental fortitude that got him through the punishment that would’ve made most people quit. That coupled with his ability to socialize with basically anyone and everyone made it that he had people rooting for him and helping him even through his punishment. That’s why it felt like he wasn’t punished, because he could handle the punishment.
@@boshlovely2002 well said. But it just didn't have to be done this way just for him to grow imo. It will never sit well with me. Yes I get that he's very passionate and motivated to improve but he's also obnoxious at the same time
@@Killerqueen2000 I believe being obnoxious is part of it. He'll likely go home if he was really told off but he had to try something... dude was just following his instincts. Part of Kita's quote explaining his view of "Talented" people was ""Even if they mess up or if they're hated by strangers or cast out... even if they ignore something we'd consider important." In Hinata's case, it was having the audacity to break through some social norms to get a chance to improve himself... even if getting the chance of just getting that chance was unlikely he still went for it. Remember, he wasn't accommodated unlike the other players invited there. He secured his own food, went there everyday on a bike in the freezing cold just to be a ball boy.
I think Haikyuu has the best character writing in any single piece of media ever. Hinata is such a genius twist on the stereotypical shounen protagonist. In the beginning he's portrayed as a generic upbeat, dumb, kid but he isn't stupid in a traditional sense because he has moments of extreme focus and understanding even in the first episode. The first major shift in his character is after the block that lost them the match at the end of season one, from there he realizes he has to shift his perspective of the game. He begins with becoming a more well rounded spiker so that he isn't wholly reliant on Kageyama. From there it is the ball boy arc (in my opinion the best training arc in the series) where he is denied the part he wants to play, a spiker, so he is forced to shift his perspective again and the result is becoming a genuinely great well rounded player. The best moments of the show for me have been seeing how Hinata thinks through his challenges, and the solutions he comes up with to overcome these obstacles. The best pay off for Hinata so far has been episode 22 of season 4 where all his training culminated into one receive that finally says he doesn't have any weaknesses he can't overcome.
@@mahbubsaiteidesu yo, if your gonna spoil, please at least warn by saying spoiler and press enter a few times. I'm not a manga reader. You just spoiled shit for me dude
"The worst way to face a monster is to see them as such" Is that quote from something or did the creator just hit us with some powerful, original, word play? I love it
@@johnwilliam3915 it's basically saying that if you are opposing something, if you see it as a monster, you've already lost because applying the term "monster" makes it sound like it's something you would be afraid of/ intimidated by/ have a diminished chance against. You've already placed whatever you are facing on a pedestal above yourself, rather than placing them on equal footing.
@@Masteph93 Yeah but its kind of wrong. The ONLY reason I made it to Nationals in Kickboxing and placed first was because I considered the people above me monsters which gave me the motivation to eventually beat them.
@Waiatara Crown i think he is the smartest because if you look at his entire story, not just the anime also the manga, from beginning to end, he is the smartest. i don’t know if you read the manga so i don’t want to spoil it, but the time skip really shows why he is the smartest.
* Manga Spoiler Alert* As much as I love Hinata and I am glad you did justice to his character growth, I think that you missed a bit of Oikawa's Character. Kageyama and Ushijima's family members were already in Volleyball which helped them built a good foundation for the game, to begin with, while Oikawa and Hinata began their journey on different nodes. I think in Manga when Oikawa's backstory was explored it stated that he did not have the athleticism for this sport and Noya also said while playing with Seijou that Oikawa did not have great control over his serves earlier so he must have worked super hard to make it work. I feel like the points that you made that Oikawa was making excuses totally takes away his hard ward. He was working hard and everyone was acknowledging him except for himself. He set his mental expectations so high for himself that he was not able to meet those in earlier Highschool days. Obviously, he did not give up and kept on going and he dethroned Monster Generations in Olympics. Hinata is the bright sun of the sports Anime who pushes his limit but Oikawa represents the majority of normal Humans according to me. It's all subjective opinion and while Hinata is a bit more special for me, I think Oikawa deserves more recognition for how he also overcame his Mental barrier to reach the top. Edit: Please note that Argentina vs Japan match is not out completely . I am not saying he won against Monster Generation. He went to Argentina and became their setter and was able to play against everyone he saw himself inferior to in his Highschool days. Thank you for all the likes.
@@elizabethspain3206 Thanks! I don't understand when People shit on his character saying he is all about good looks and excuses. Furudate Sensei has written some of the best layered characters. Oikawa is one of the most hardworking Players in Haikyuu. His struggles were different but I am glad Sensei did proper justice to his character.
Finally i found this sort of comment, since my favourite character will definitely always be hinata, i think Oikawa's mindset was relatable to most of people before season 4, though kita's appearance changed my mind. Not everyone can be that determined and still have that feeling of charging ahead with that kind of mindset. Oikawa's hard work is special to me, but maybe self-deprecating myself is enough huhu. Sorry for my rants though if it sounds absurd, as English is not my first language from an immatured brat right here.
I love this❤, nice comparison! Just a question.. Is the Olympic arc already out? The last time I read the manga, we were shown the scene where monster generation is ready to battle oikawa
Interestingly, something as simple as a receive in volleyball became a defining moment in Haikyuu when Hinata managed to execute it perfectly. It seems incongruous for a nationals player to receive the ball for the first time in an official game, as skill of receiving should have been perfected years ago, but in haikyuu they construct Hinata's development so elegantly that this becomes a moment of triumph.
You have to remember: he was only 15 yo at that moment. There are even professional players who prefer not to receive, if possible, and 3 years is enough time for him to learn
I would read the manga but the problem with that is, I'll finish all my series in a week and I'll just wait cause of the anime and try to forget the few spoilers i see
I feel like you completely misunderstood Oikawa's character. Oikawa I agree was a bit pessimistic to begin with but he never let the negativity stop him from working hard. You can only say one is making excuses when they try to run from their responsibilities but NOT ONCE did Oikawa in the entire series ever turn his back on the sport or on his way of playing volleyball. He knew Kageyama and Hinata were talented and seeing their growth he accepted what most others did as well, that they would eventually surpass him. I know considering his talents and dreams he should have had a little more faith in himself but that's easier said than done for a high school volleyball player. Oikawa was one of the most realistic characters in the story.. His last conversation with Ushijima after their defeat against Karasuno was living proof of his resolve. It's easy to call him childish and someone who made excuses but that's just blatantly ignoring the amount of effort that guy put in day in and day out to get good at Volleyball INSPITE of all the odds. Oikawa Toru to the end was a fighter unlike any other!!
I don't think they misunderstood Oikawa's character, the video just wasn't about Oikawa. It was more about how Oikawa feels about "genius". And let's be honest, the way Oikawa feels about Kageyama is both a blessing and a curse to him. A blessing in how Kageyama (unknowingly) pushes him to be as good as he can be, but a curse in how he views Kageyama. He's so threatened by him, barely seeing him as another human being with feelings. It's rude, as Kita said. I'm sure some people (Kageyama potentially included) view Oikawa as a genius himself. But we the audience knows how far Oikawa pushes himself day in and day out. Kageyama does the same thing. And Oikawa almost certainly doesn't think of this when it comes to Kageyama. Calling him a genius and then hating him for it is not only childish, but detrimental to Oikawa in a way. He needs to stop viewing Kageyama as some insurmountable obstacle that will surpass him. Calling him a "genius", in that insulting way Oikawa does, is completely disregarding the work Kageyama has put in. And that's not fair to Kageyama or to Oikawa himself. I completely understand why he feels that way though. I think most people do, and that's one of the reasons some people dislike him. He's one of if not the most relatable and best written character in Haikyuu!! And like you said, he's also a fighter. If you've finished the manga, you know just how much of a fighter he is, lol.
@@joyc.e.7511 I agree with some things you said, but I think Oikawa DOES know that Kageyama works very hard as well. He's intelligent enough, and very observant. It's just that, given the same amount of work they put in, Kageyama's still a level above him. That's also what (slight spoiler) Jose Blanco told him: 'People who are naturally better than you, have been different from you ever since they were born.' But he also learns from him that he shouldn't complain about that if he hasn't even done everything he possibly can. So he keeps following his own path. His growth throughout the manga is honestly my favorite part. And the best thing is that Kageyama and Oikawa named each other as their biggest inspiration.
@@joyc.e.7511 I completely agree. I couldn't have possibly hoped for a better ending from Haikyuu. Seeing Oikawa standing not besides but on the other side of the net from those who he envied seemed so appropriate. It showed that a person's path to evolution can be different compared to others but that doesn't necessarily mean that he won't reach the same goal. I was left in awe with the way Haikyuu ended. All pieces just fit so well in the end.
Thats what most people dont get about genius and talent. Its that the amount of work put into it gets multiplied by it. Its not addition but multiplication. Equation talent+effort=result is wrong. Equation talentxeffort=result is true. Thus if a genius and a regular person put in the same amount of work,genius gets more results back. Thats why they are superior. If they work as hard as everyone else noone will get better than they. Lets put it in a single a way. Studying. A regular person usually reads a segment few times, then focuses on important parts and finally focuses on memorizing the data. A genius reads whole segment 3 times and has understood it, knows the concept and memorized it. Without any training. See the difference?
This anime/manga has an insane effect on people. I've read the manga 3 times. Watched the anime at least twice. Currently watching professionals react to haikyuu episodes. And I'm not even playing volleyball (or any sports).
loved the video but using Oikawa as an example in the "If you think they've been born with talent then you have already lost" seems a bit off considering that Oikawa is easily one of the hardest working players in all of Haikyu!! and also that he never once saw the Kagehina original quick and revamped quick as something that wasn't attainable.
"he never once saw the Kagehina original quick and revamped quick as something that wasn't attainable." He literally said this to Iwa though. That it was not possible for him to do it.
@@infinitexvoid7605 Yeah, we have absolutely zero proof that that is possible for him. He knows that that toss is nearly impossible and relies on precision that is unheard of.
@@infinitexvoid7605 Atsumu is considered the same kind of prodigy as Kageyama. Oikawa is not. Oikawa was written specifically as a hard working, intelligent, and talented player, but not a genius or prodigy like Kageyama or Atsumu. That's why he works hard at doing the things he CAN accomplish, like setting the best balls for all of his spikers, polishing his serves/recieves, and studying his opponents.
yea i agreed with the video for the most part but okiawa definitely did not slack off. in my perspective he just got too caught up in his insecurity despite being clearly better at everything volleyball because kageyama *seemed* more like a natural than him in his view (like he felt that kageyama's starting point was ahead of his). he became uber focused, even obsessed, and started looking inwards instead of out which ultimately resulted in him losing before the match had even started. @Nagisalover about kageyama and hinatas quick: yall are forgetting that the only reason it works is also due to hinatas speed, which is said to be rare of some sorts, and not just the precision of the setter. the spiker leads it.
I think that you misconstrue Oikawa here. Oikawa recognizes talent, and the need to work hard at it. But as a former athlete, I can unequivocally tell you that despite all the hard work in the world, there are and will be, people far more athletically gifted then you are. Sometimes you can beat those people with hard work but Kita's point is that not only are those people physically gifted but they also work harder than others. It's the exact problem that Oikawa struggles with.
Yeah this is what people doesn’t understand with Oikawa. He works hard and can’t keep up with « naturally talented » people like Kageyama. But they forget that even if he is a « genius » he works damn hard too (chapter 387 shows it). So there is no fatality in this.
Yes there are People are not born equally. Doesnt mean that you cannot be a monster along with these kind of people. His coach put it in perspective. Not until you have reached the limit of your own being and have tried everything that you can complain. "Talent is something that you bloom, instinct is somthing that you polish" Doesnt not mean your talent will come out with hard work. It means hardwork creates talent. Kita was talking about how atsumu would put so much time and effort into his play, Everything from 1-20 and a to z Everything he can explore, he will. Thats where oikawa falls behind imo He saw kageyama's spatial awareness, pin point sets amd his intuition on the game as a gift. And he hated how much he wanted to have that gift. Thats when iwaizumi tells him its a 6on6 game, dont forget. He takes that notion as a weapon. His only way to rival with blessed people. Puts his whole self into being the steroids and offense tower of a team that it becomes his talent. Even Ushiwaka sees him as a monster. He takes this way of fighting and does it from 1-20, a to z over and over again Explore every option in that realm and becomes what other people will call a genius. But never did he thought he could bloom the "gift" of kageyama Because he thinks its a gift, only the chosen one gets it
@@Limpass610 Iwaizumi just meant that if raw skills (gift) are astonishing, it’s not everything in the setter’s job. Oikawa’s quality is ease with others. That’s the « talent » Iwaizumi wanted him to notice. Because of what happened in his life, Kageyama forgot that part, and focused on his skills only (as out of this world they are) while Oikawa did strictly the opposite : develop hi team potential rather than awesome raw skills (even though he trains hard on this point too). He knows he can’t keep up with Kageyama’s gift so he worked on something that Kageyama lacked of : this is what make them complementary. Because once Kageyama understand that and begin to trust his team again he’s the ultimate setter and Oikawa knows that. I think he voluntarily refused to teach him that because deep inside he knew that it was the only thing Kageyama needed to be the best. So he instead focused on what he thought could bring him this gift, until he hurt his knee.
@@Nunelii i know What im saying is that oikawa resents the "blessed" while he has a "gift" as well. Its the mindset Oikawa thinking that this is his only way to fight, he hones it to near perfection, it became his talent. Kageyama not knowing this option exist, doesnt put a point in it. People are born different. You cant be taller because you want to be. You cant go beyond your physical peak. But you can hone any skill according to your build beyond just a skill. As long as you know you can do it. Might take you years. Wont even be as good as other people. But it will pay off somewhere. And that place will be your weapon
@@Limpass610 but the fact is that as you said, the problem is the physical peak. Oikawa’s injury proves it. His limits are right there. Of course he has another option. And I think there is no way Kageyama doesn’t know he has it too. It’s just that contrarily to the others players, he had to face tougher hardships. The psychological aspect is a great part of being an athlete. And unfortunately when it comes to certain players it doesn’t end well and you can do nothing against it. So the talent is not everything in Oikawa and Kageyama’s dynamics.
This video seriously made me so happy cause the fandom was more excited for oikawa's ear than this amazing arc and had the audacity to skip the ballboy arc
Yeah I love oikawa but if you take away the hotness from him, he's kind of a childish scumbag. Still love him tho, just wish this good stuff had been acknowledged
Oikawa is a variation of the "too angry to die" trope. This man hated the thought of losing SO MUCH he became an Argentinian just so he could actually face the greatest players of Japan. Love the man, he's a diehard realist, you could argue that his desperate clinging onto talent dragged him down, because let's face it- talent exists, a lot more in someone and a lot less in someone else. but at the same time he works hard as hell just so he could stand up to the harsh "reality" he hangs over his face all the time.
one thing i have noticed as the anime went on was how Hinata managed to fall in love will volleyball himself. in the first season, his really only driving force to keep playing was the little giant. its a constant thought of "i want to be as good as the little giant" or "i want to be an ace just like him". but over time, we see him think this less and less. in season three and four, i didn't see a single instance of that mind set. there was no "i have to be at the same level as the little giant". i think that as he started playing and creating friendships, crafting his own playing style, and wanting to reach out to be better constantly, he made his own love for volleyball. there's no desire to be someone else, or rather be just like them, he's just himself, playing how he wants. before all he wanted was to be the ace. the cool position that gets the spotlight. but overtime, he realizes that it doesn't matter what position you play. weather it be a blocker or a setter, or anything else, everyone keeps the ball in play, and keeps on giving it their all. and we see him understand that slowly by him making his own as "the greatest decoy". he fell in love with his position, and with the game that hes playing,not needing to be anyone or anything else to achieve his goals. i rambled on for way longer than was intended, and i probably made no sense, but yeah, those are my thoughts.
my god, why haven't i realised this myself it's so obvious but you're right, he originally did volleyball just to be like the little giant or be the ace, but he gradually fell in love with it. and trust me, in the matches following inarizaki, he continues to love the sport even more and distance even further from being the little giant and ace.
Reading this comment I remembered when Hinata found out from the little giant himself that he no longer played and instead wanted to try new things, then Hinata says he is not disappointed hearing this... it was because Hinata played volleyball because he truly loved the sport and no longer just to become his idol lol
He did downplay Oikawas character depth but I was waiting for Oikawa to mess up a receive tbh. Oikawa is the type of person who picks out in other people what he doesn't like about, or struggles with, himself. All throughout season one he was pointing out other peoples bad receives or telling them that they should work on them. He did it first with Tsukishima and Hinata in the Aoba and Karasuno practice match. During the official match, he talks about how important receives are, he says 'Behind every strong set up, is a soiled initial receive' along with other things about how important it is to get a good receive (i think thats the quote, in dub anyways. its something along those lines.) Also i dont know any other exact quotes but if you watch the match and listen for them he talks about receives a lot, it isnt noticeable unless you're looking for it but once you do notice you cant miss it. The missed receive was his fault, he was struggling with them and he messed up at the worst possible moment. He didn't let it get to him though, he accepted it for what it was and he grew from it and now he's on the Argentina volleyball team!! he isnt my favourite character but im very very proud of him (❁´◡`❁)
@@marinn_zya I never noticed that! But I think that disproves this guy's hypothesis even more: it proves that he's not some whiny crybaby and asserts his will to craft his own ability to succeed
@@angeloortiz2769 Oikawas character is so deep, there is just so much more to him than what's on the surface and I really wish more people recognised that! \(@^0^@)/ That's why I love when Oikawa and Hinata meet in Brazil, it really shows another side of Oikawa that we didn't get to see when he was in high school, he's kind and carefree and helped Hinata out a lot, it's shows what he's like when he isn't pressuring himself and just letting himself be ╰(*°▽°*)╯
@@marinn_zya this is so incredibly wrong. Pointed out the flaws in Tsukishima and Hinata's recieves? Well guess what, at the same time, he complimented Hinata for his block and the broad cross hit. He is an objective character when he is not playing psychological games. It's super dishonest to say he picks flaws in others he doesn't like about or is within himself. It's actually pathetic projection. If it's not, give me one example of when Oikawa picks out a flaw in somebody that he struggles with himself. There's literally no instance but you've seemed to form a pillar of his character around something that doesn't exist. No clue how you're wildly incorrect and projective comment is even upvoted as many times as it is.
This season gave me chills that no other anime has even come close to. With Hinata's receives and the "break point" rally I got teary-eyed more than once while watching.
I love Oikawa's growth, as even in the anime thus far, as towards the end, you see that he has started to push himself even more so and to not be stunted by "monsters". Even when watching the nationals, he's now seeing these "monsters" as motivation to push himself as he's continuing his own training. Seeing him in tha manga also shows this growth, without getting into spoilers. I'm glad he's begun to push past that stunt mindset
oikawa is definitely also a monster. he’s been called one a lot and if you read kita’s speech and description of a monster again, it applies perfectly to oikawa
I don't think Kita's words make Oikawa wrong, instead before the last rally between Aoba and Karasuno when Oikawa says he can make talent bloom he's stating the same that Kita says. When I saw it back in the day I thought that were words of resignation but after this last season I understanded that what Oikawa said was that he was not going to give up, because if he did then he would never have the chance to discover his talent (or make the talent bloom as he says)
Definitely agree! Oikawa is easily one of the most hard working characters in the show and his character is very complex. He doesn’t see Kageyama’s talent as his own limit, thus why he was able to keep improving and surpass even his own limits.
In the era of monster generation, Oikawa is one of those monster. His skill and talent recognize by some of the best players of that era, Ushiwaka and Kageyama. In the end he even playing for Argentina national team. He definitely talented player.
In the end Oikawa won like that's it KANXKSBFKSNFISNXIDN mans legit said he used the generation of monsters as a stepping stone. He's more human than any other characters that's why I love him. No arguments there
Not really without kageyama he would never have gotten any playtime or thought from his coaches he needed kageyama initially so as other people could see his potential
@@_-__. I dont think he would have.Hinata actually pushed him out to be considerate of other players as well. If kageyama was alone in that team without hinata ,He would have to go great length to be habitual to the team "fallen rivals/crows" and even then he wouldnt have played his best or pulled his teammates best. Hinata was the one who actually kinda get him rid of the cocky prince title imo which kinda made him more acceptable to other players.(Also english is not my first language so please excuse any mistake )
Yeah, I feel that while Oikawa at the beginning of the series he felt like this in the flashback with his coach he commits to making himself a "monster" which is reflective in the process. While he does view Kageyama and Ushijima as naturals he still takes every opportunity to face and challenge them he gets to the point that he rather keep trying to surpass Ushijima rather than giving in and joining his team. He constantly seeks to improve despite believing he is overall worst than these "naturals" which I feel is a toxic but understandable mindset. Despite him being so gifted and driven himself, he refuses to acknowledge that and sees himself as inferior which is really realistic. Even Ushijima the person who he's competed against this whole time thinks he's one of the greatest setters and wants him to come to Shirtorizawa. Kageyama who he views as a monster literally based his whole initial playing style off of Oikawa down to the jump serve yet Oikawa himself doesn't view all that hard work and natural talent as anything special which is why I think his coaches words are the best way to confront this feeling. Stop worrying about what others have and you don't and find the limits of your own skill. Only after doing that can you complain. This I feel finally clicks at the end of season 2 where despite losing Oikawa still wholehearted intends on overcoming and defeating Ushijima. Even though Oikawa complains about this "unfairness" where I feel that he differs from the players Kita was talking to and by extension, the audience is in the fact that despite thinking this he keeps going on and finding new ways to compete. TLDR: Oikawa is a monster in everyone but his own eyes which is pretty depressing but leads to that monster like work ethic the video talks about but just comes with a side of bitching now and then.
Did you read the manga? But doesn't Oikawa's mindset change maybe not totally in the way he sees things but he does believe in having to put effort. Have you reached the limits? As he is asked by the mysterious coach..
@@andromeda9391 yeah he’s much more positive when he later meets up with Hinata and is overall over this negative mindset. I’m just saying that High school Oikawa is everything he complains about but he just can’t see it.
what i love the most about hinata (among all his precious traits) is that the more you crush him down the more he thrives. it's hard to work when you're deprived but damn hinata here setting the example we all should be reminded of
This one is going to be long : I started to love volleyball when I first watched haikyuu. I fell in love with the characters, plot, but mainly the atmosphere of volleyball, that this anime conveyed, I wanted to feel that. So after that, I and two of my friends, that also loved volleyball, joined a volleyball team that I found on the internet. We exercised a lot, and I worked hard, but I always felt like I fell behind two of my friends, due to our coach picking them more for practices, than me, and me just observing their skills and comparing them to mine. I felt worse than them, not just as a player, but as a person, because I just couldn't put that much work into it. I hated this feeling. After that I started coming less often on time for practices, some days even skipping them, just not to feel this pressuring feeling. But then I felt crushed. One day our coach decided to split our group in two, one group for stronger players, and the other for weaker ones. And it was that moment, when he picked two of my friends, but not me, that I just broke. "This is it, this is the ultimate evidence of me being worse", " I am worse" - I started thinking. I couldn't bear this feeling, so I left the team after that. And tried to remove anything that connects to volleyball from my life, just not to think about it. I cried, a lot. I started to resent volleyball. And particularly Haikyuu, where I saw all these "monsters" and felt like I could never be like them. And it stayed like this until several things happened. Fast forward to me after a year or so, we are playing volleyball at school. I was hyped, but not as though I forgot everything that happened before, I just wanted to play volleyball after such a long time. We started playing, and during this game, I realized something. I still felt this exiting feeling for my teammate, that played good, to serve, and I knew he served good, and I wanted him to crush the other team, and when he did, I felt such an intense feeling of excitement and happiness, that is hard to describe. Save, toss, spike, and all those little moments, and feeling that I didn't realize I still felt about them led me to a conclusion: "I still was in love with volleyball". But not only for anime, but for all of those feelings it gave me. I decided to return to it. And I felt that: "I still want to play". And now, after I started practicing again, I still had thoughts that I am just not as good as others, that they were just born like this, that they were just better, like my friends before. But this phrase of Kita that I heard in this video, and the way it was communicated that really opened my eyes, that people are not just born as "monsters", but they work hard for it. Where any other would put 2 hours, they put all 5, "where others practice on a scale of 1-10, others do it on the scale of 1-20, or a more effective 10, or a denser 10", and because of videos like this these, I am really reminded that I can also be good, that I can still improve, that I can still play volleyball. So thank you very much for making this video, it inspires me to keep going. Thank you.
My favourite thing about Hinata’s character is that he inspires the people around him(and the audience) to improve. He has such a strong ambition and the will to fulfill it that he rubs off on everyone around him
This brings me so much joy because Kita is always overlooked by the fandom for Atsumu, Osamu, and Suna, plus some people don’t acknowledge how much Hinata has grown since his first ever match. It just warms my heart to see my favorite characters appreciate and I even learned more about the messages they share. :))
Actually, nearly the whole fandom acknowledges how Hinata improved and grew over the series. Kita is overlooked because he was only on a few episodes and there’s not much clips of him. He is one of the characters people deeply connect with and one of the most human in my opinion but, there aren’t enough clips of him for people to recognize him as much.
I draw shit and whenever people tell me I'm talented I feel frustrated inside, though I usually don't say anything. By calling me talented they assume I was just born being able to draw good pictures, ignoring the 4 years of drawing daily I had to do before I even got to this point, able to conceive a decent drawing. I'm so glad I found this video where someone else can finally express this point I always had in my head.
What if you don’t have free will, and all your actions are just antecedent causes. Perhaps you were just fated to be hard working person that got you to this place. So, necessary external factors made you want to work hard, but are you sure that was your inner will giving power to assent? I’m not gaslighting you btw, I just don’t know if I free will exists.
You literally just described my life. I’m tired of people discrediting countless years of effort by claiming it’s innate talent👎 like come on bruh I didn’t ignore normal life for you to call my skill a genetic advantage☹️
Its really not that deep, just accept the compliment for what it's worth - a genuine response to how great they think the artwork is. I agree that it could've been better worded, however it simply shows their awe for your skills rather than discrediting your hard work.
This is a true blessing. Haikyuu is one of my favorite anime of all time, and I'm so glad seeing some super good analysis of how deep this show is about.
Never have I been so offended with something I completely agree with in regards to the Oikawa criticism lol. The Adachi edit actually made me laugh, id say its a bit different since Oikawa actually put in effort while Adachi just dodged responsibility but... 10/10 meme!
lol I hope it wasn't too mocking or offended people too much. Adachi put in the effort to be a cop and make a life for himself but he was thrown into the boonies idk. Either way their mindset was based around some fake idea of some people just having talent when others have none
@@HidinginPublic not too mocking at all lol, I love Oikawa as a character, but its more so an appreciation for him and his flawed mindset as a whole, less his particular ideology which is kinda yikes. at the end of the day its just excuses, I found it quite funny!
I feel like he's completely misunderstood Oikawa's character though. Oikawa I agree was a bit pessimistic to begin with but he never let the negativity stop him from working hard. You can only say one is making excuses when people try to run from their responsibilities but NOT ONCE did Oikawa in the entire series ever turn his back on the sport or on his way of playing volleyball. He knew Kageyama and Hinata were talented and seeing their growth he accepted what most others did as well, that they would eventually overcome him. I know considering his talents and dreams he should have had a little more faith in himself but that's easier said than done for a high school volleyball player. Oikawa was one of the most realistic characters in the story.. His last conversation with Ushijima after their defeat against Karasuno was living proof of his resolve.
@@castaside I agree with that analysis of Oikawa, the Adachi comparison hurt me a little because I feel like Adachi put in a 3/10 on his best days while Oikawa did everything on a scale of 1-10 at a 10, but it goes back to what Kita was saying about the denser 10, Oikawa is a "shitty guy" as Iwaizumi put it, (and that's one of the things I love about his character, and I know a few people like him), and instead of always trying to improve/better himself for instance when Kageyama joined his middle school team as a "genius setter" he became jealous and anxious instead of seeing it as healthy competition to push and improve himself with or even learn from. Oikawa's mindset of people having innate ability/limits is somewhat true, but seeing someone who is enraptured by a genuine passion and love for the sport improving as much as they can for the sake of the love of what they're doing regardless of any sort of limits is what really pushes someone into that denser 10 or A-Z, I still think Oikawa is my favorite character, and his mindset has some flaws, but that's not to say he isnt well written as a realistic individual with a passion for volleyball himself! Hidings talked about Oikawa a bit on the twitch streams when we've gotten into haikyuu discussions and I think the video glosses over his appreciation for Oikawas character a bit and is focused more on his deterministic mindset
@@HidinginPublic I didn’t like that you said OIKAWA missed that receiver but he really had to move his hands cause it went off the block and he wasn’t ready for that
Something I’ve always really loved about haikyuu is that it’s characters are relatable even to people who don’t/have never played volleyball (like me) Some people hate how slow the matches progress bc of the time it puts into understanding each character, but it’s something I really appreciate because it gives something for everyone to relate to. Seeing hinata’s growth in his weaker areas was one of the best things to see in this season, and his mindset is so sunny and inspiring. These characters make me want be a better person at the things I pursue too ;-;
I love that little orange haired shrimp. He's amazing. Karasuno is amazing... honestly, all of Haikyuu is one of the anime I immediately reccomend to people.
Everyone has emotions even the so called “monsters” when you go against the best team you would expect to lose but for people who we so call “monsters” losing is never on there mind just the moment and the things they can learn from that moment.
I love this video! And to be frank, I would even say that by the end of the second Seijoh match, even Oikawa has realized that the notion of genius is outdated and not something he should focus on. His speech “instinct is something you polish, talent is something you make bloom” shows that he learned that the only way up is to continue and not give up. Oikawa was never intended to be proof that you can only succeed with talent alone. Imo it’s rather that many fans only focus on the “not a genius” side of Oikawa, because it’s more relatable. But it’s only that, relatable; feeling like you can never catch up to those monsters is a normal feeling and I think it’s beautifully portrayed through Oikawa, so I wouldn’t go and say that oikawa’s character is toxic (which you didn’t imply specifically in the video, but it did come off like as if you did).
OIKAWA was horrible in middle school and than kaheyama showed up and oikawa started to work and train and study volleyball everyday and lived volleyball idk if you were saying OIKAWA was born talented or kageyama was but they weren’t
I LOVE this analysis of Kita's 'rant' and Hinata's growth. This message is such an important one, no matter who you are or where you come from, because we're all being conditioned to have this 'talent', 'genius', and 'monster' mentality. We see what people have become, the end result of their successes, and how awesome the rewards they reap are, but we fail to notice the sweat and blood and tears and time it took to get there. And more importantly: we fail to realize that we can do it too. Your analysis reminds me of Carol Dwek's idea of a Fixed Mindset v.s. a Growth Mindset. A fixed mindset, exhibited by the two players Kita spoke to, can only see the results, the end products, and compare that to where they stand now. Kita, who exhibits a growth mindset, looks at the constant, continuous, and effective effort. He looks at the process, because ultimately that's what it is, it's the everyday little steps and conscious effort that allows the people they call 'monsters' and 'geniuses' to get where they are. And the thing is: they are still mid-process. Their progress NEVER stops, and that's the destructive lie in a fixed mindset- that there will come a time when you can't improve, that you will find your apex, but no such apex exists! Check put this video if you want to learn more about Growth Mindsets: ruclips.net/video/hiiEeMN7vbQ/видео.html I also recommend to anyone (especially college students) to read On Course by Skip Downing. It covers very similar topics that help to enhance self-improvement. And can I just say: "The title is unimportant when the role is filled" GOSH I love that!!! New favorite quote regarding leadership, because it's so true. The best leaders lead by example, by their own continuous progress and perserverance. We can all achieve what these so called 'monsters', 'geniuses', and 'talented' individuals have. We just have to be willing to work for it, day after day. Anyway... AWESOME video and analysis!! I always love your take on things Hiding in Public! Keep up the great work
This is an incredible video, and really encapsulates so well why I love Hinata as a character. I can only aspire to have the same level of tenacity and drive to achieve my own goals. Hinata as a character just moves me so much in a way that no other fictional character ever has.
I don't know why but every hiding video i get lost in thought about how it reflects on my own life and it always makes each video so special and makes me feel inspired in some way.
I really love how this season of Haikyuu addressed talent and skill. Passion or innate talent isn't what makes someone a monster or a genius, it comes down to what they work on every day, gradually building up their skills
@@HidinginPublic and as always, the video was phenomenal! i love the editing in this one, and listening to it gave me absolute chills! keep up the great work! 👌
I cried for 17 minutes straight. For someone like me who has no motivation but enjoys watching these kind of anime, I found Haikyuu!! as a place of comfort and peace. I really admire every character and I coudln't have expressed my thoughts as well as you did here. Great job!!!
I'd like to add that this doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve your life, it juste means you must accept what you can't change and do your best with it for example in volleyball, if you're short, complaining about it and dreaming about how life would be amazing if you were tall won't do anything. But accepting it and then try to improve your jump will help you reach your goals
Wow!! The most concise reaction I've watched so far. And I don't mind listening because a real Haikyuu fan can talk for hours, or even days about how great the analogy of the anime/manga is in real life.
I never thought I'd be so happy listening to someone for 17 minutes and 30 seconds talking about my favorite anime just telling how immersive this story really is, it really opens my heart and I hope you keep creating content. Because this was definitely one of my favorite videos I've ever seen.
Man this video is so motivating, holy shit. I find people talking like that about "talent" in real life too. Someone is spending hundreds of hours learning something, just to get better. Then someone comes and tells him "Man You are so talented". That is literally an insult
I absolutely love it. This kinda review is only someone who went very deep into life can get to. And about oikawa, his character was made in such a perfect way so that everyone watching it can relate to him one or the other way
Kita was one of my favorite characters from season 4, but Hinata is definitely my favorite. With a 2D character I learned a lot of discipline, passion and recognizing my flaws and improving what I have. your video reminded me of that! thanks!
Ya know, this is a great video, but being honest i feel like it glosses over Oikawa a little bit. Much as i hate to admit it, he's one of the most interesting characters, and seeing his growth from his admittedly atrocious attitude towards kageyama in MS to his being able to basically unlock his old rival's potential ("have you even tried to give him the tosses he wants?") shows amazing growth, not only knowing that this will make them tougher opponents, but knowing that what he's talking about might not even be something he himself would try to attempt (the perfect backspin pass that takes kageyama a LOT of montages to master). Seeing how invested he is in following Karasuno post defeat (watching their match vs shiratorizawa in disguise, listening to them over his headphones as he jogs) could be read as obsessive/wrongheaded, but i read it as him being invested in shedding his pride and pain associated with the match, and trying to grow that supportive streak that he showed when giving Kageyama that crucial bit of advice.
To the top really made me fall in love with the character of hinata and how he thinks.. and when him and people around him realize that he has grown a lot since he 1st came to karasuno.. that receive and that high recieve from hinata is just something else.. it always make me feel heavy in my chest.. and brings tears to my eyes
And this is the season i realized.. to any person.. an athlete or not.. Hinata is best character to look up to.. to think like hinata every day every moment.. Being that self analysing.., honest..,hardworking.., and insanely positive.. He is just perfect example of how a man should be.. according to me
I was sad when Netflix stopped airing the show. At least here I have glimpses of the show that stood with me through my voyage of healing …and sync of episodes with my life etc all really made sense….from the sun appearing in specific times etc ……I don’t know how I landed here but I did and therefor I’m so HAPPY MY FRIEND …..YOU DID AN awesome description . Your ability to recognize what many of us see ( or perhaps few lol) shows that you are humble and fair . Blessings to you and again thank you .
Kitta is a top tier character and I'm really glad someone took the time to really dig into him and his ideas and how they relate to the show. Great video
i think to show his growth you could have maybe mentiones the time where he was playing with his little sister, and let her practice with his pass routine, and when she recognice that now the ball and him looked like friends now. I think it was a really eye opening scene that showed how much effort and growth he has experience.
Man I can’t wait to see how you analyze hinata’s growth and how he puts it to use next season such an entertaining and insightful video thanks for the content!
This series is truly so beautiful and inspiring, at the end of every episode it just makes you wanna go out there and try your best, work up a sweat and just do something productive. Not to mention how the rewatch value is pretty much infinite (+ 2nd time around once you get to know more about the players on the other side of the net it brings up the stack to a whole new level since it makes you root for both)
Haikyu is such a huge comfort to me and I am so happy to see someone like you acknowledging how beautiful the story is. Whilst it is funny, exciting and entertaining, it frustrates me how the deeper messages are often overlooked by the fandom. Thank you for making this.
Wow this is truly a true fan. Someone who looks into the quotes, pay attention to the signs Im moved how someone other then me noticed this. Honestly i dont understand how this video has 88 dislikes when it should have 0, Hiding in Public you...moved me. Everytime i watch an anime theres always a life lesson and with Haikyu being realistic fiction it shows that even though your not tall or not what its supposed to be you still can do it. A lot of people these days give up over one negative comment instead of using it to persevere yourself to try hard, prove them wrong, move foward. Haikyuu is all about perseverance , Hinata is the inspiration. Its like what Osamu said "You get hungrier" Hinata is getting hungrier and hungrier. I think no i know Hinata isnt going to be the Next Tiny Giant No because he is going to make an AMAZING name for himself, his own name.
This is really inspirational! All my life I was just making excuses about how I can’t draw good like “am younger and and they are older and have more experience “ Or “I can practice later”....I now know that I should keep running, keep practising Because people who are better then me,..must have worked hard Not everyone is born with natural talent...but people who have talent, work hard so hey can’t we? It doesn’t matter if someone is gifted or more better then u, think about you’re self and only about what u do I will keep running and never give up! This anime literally gave me inspiration of never giving up
I think this is a wonderful point to bring out. I feel like when I first watched the show I was just amazed by the cool volleyball matches and missed a lot of the plot and character growth. But watching it for a second time I came to realize that the show is more than just cuties swinging at a ball. There is so much to relate to even if you don't play a sport. The idea that successful athletes/people have made it to where they are just because of their "natural god given talent" is such a - ahem excuse me for i am about to meme - weak mindset. It is just so wonderful to watch you and listen to how well you are able to articulate these themes. So thanks for the great video broski! cnt wait for the next one
I almost cried two times watching cuz the meaning of this whole video was so much to take in and change me and this is why haikyuu is an anime that made me changed my pov on everything ty
Wow, this really helped me a lot. I also play volleyball and I starting watching Haikyuu because I play. This show has helped me in so many ways I am very grateful for it. I have been in a rough patch in my motivation for volleyball and this video helped me find it again and I thank you for that.
Dude... I always felt a certain special thing towards Haikyuu, a feeling that made want to be better but i never really understood it. I want to say thanks for making this video because it was what i wanted to hear for a while now to give me a little more courage to live and fight just a little bit longer..... Thanks...
I feel like you've misunderstood oikawa a bit (well a whole lot), oikawa's character and arc is literally just what video gets at. He was burdened by constantly losing to the blinding strength of ushiwaka and when kageyama enters the fray it's the thought of being surpassed by a kid two years younger than him that haunted him-he saw kageyama "someone who has probably been playing for two years lesser than I have and shouldn't even be nearly as athletic as me yet". The entire point of all of that was that he was looking at things through a broken lens. That's what the final karasuno v seijoh rally accentuated (and actually a whole lot of oikawa centered episodes too). "Instinct is something you polish, talent is something you make bloom" and "how do you know you surpass him, even though haven't realised the peak of your skill and prowess, how do you even know you're at your limit" show that clear as day. Oikawa's arc wasn't just him realising that his team mattered more than his self, that was just a facet of him realising that intuitive sense wasn't all that drove home success in sport, that there are other things one can do to win, other things that compensate for ones lack of effortless skill. The point of his character was showing us that there is no point in backing down from what we perceive as pure genius. Even in the first interhigh oikawa says "I may not be a match for your rapid rate of evolution Tobio..." not "I can't compare with your genius"
But what Oikawa never considered was that Kageyama doesn’t improve at a faster pace than him. He began playing volleyball when he was literally a TODDLER. This is what restrained Oikawa back then. Thinking that he couldn’t beat a kid whom he considered as genius, when this kid is just a hard worker as he is.
@@Nunelii it wasn’t that he was a hard worker it’s that he was always going to watch his dad play and practice and so kageyama was always at the gym so he just practiced since he was their he was their everyday and wanted to be a ball hog so he chose setter and OIKAWA has worked a lot harder than kageyama in my opinion
@@Nunelii but why do people forget that what hindered Oikawa and what pushed him forward was always present in him. That Oikawa held both kind of thoughts simultaneously in him, that he may not be able to beat kageyama or ushijima because they are monsters, but he would beat them even though they are monsters. Oikawa absolutely does have the negative thinking and insecurities, but not even once ever did he stopped trying and he tried in the hopes to beat people he falsely considered naturally better than him. It hurts when people makes Oikawa's character to be the type who makes excuses. Because even with his negative mindset he never did once made any excuse, because a person making excuses gives up, or works less hard, or is happy after losing a match against a person considered a genius. But oikawa would be frustrated and try even harder to beat them next time. Oikawa's mindset also have this "how dare someone implied that I can't beat genius" attitude and this is the opposite of making excuses. And eventually he even grew out of his negative mindset as well by the time he was a full grown adult. So if even though oikawa had a pretty negative mindset early on, he never made any sort of excuses. And well what you gonna do if you're that sort of person who overthinks a lot or give in to pessimistic mindset quicker. Everyone is not like hinata with his optimistic attitude. Oikawa is just the night version of hinata, or hinata is the sun version of Oikawa. Some people are just like that, give in to negative emotions quicker, and Oikawa is an inspiration to all those because despite being that sort of person, he never gave up, or made excuses, and continue to work hard and follow his passion with his pride intact and achieved his dreams. Some people would be like hinata who are more positively pre disposed. Someone inner workings of mind are also things that cannot be changed in a flip or ever.
@@Nunelii it's not that Kageyama isn't a hard worker. It's just that he was born with a lot more inherent talent. Oikawa, while really really good at volleyball, wasn't a born prodigy. Kageyama worked hard but a lot of things probably came easier for him. Think of it this way: they both put in serious work but Oikawa had to work twice as hard to achieve half as much. That's what Oikawa's whole shtick is, the fact that there will be people who are more talented than you but you can achieve just as much as them even though your path may be longer and more arduous.
@@Nunelii But you have to think about it from Oikawa’s 13-14 year old days. When I believe he started developing the feeling that Kageyama was a genius. He was just a teenager who didn’t understand his emotions. He thought he was below him and that he couldn’t beat him no matter how hard he tried because Kageyama was simply, well, a genius. In his eyes at least. Oikawa just never grew out of that mindset, most likely because it ate him up inside. Plus, a lot of things probably came a lot easier for Kageyama since he started volleyball earlier. Oikawa was only a kid when he started feeling jealous of Kageyama and to a degree hatred. Coming from someone who is barely older than Oikawa in those scenes I can see where he was coming from. He didn’t have a strong hold on his emotions because he was only a kid. I mean, imagine someone you viewed as a genius and you thought was better than you come up to you and ask you to teach them stuff. That would be a slap to the face. Oikawa worked his ass off, just like Kageyama, I’m not saying he didn’t but, I’m pretty sure athletically Kageyama got things a lot easier. I’m also pretty sure Oikawa saw Kageyama in the same light he did Ushiwaka. (As scene in that one clip from season 1?) This might not make sense but it makes sense to me in my head and I’m not really sure how to put it into to words. 🧍
Haikyuu is much deeper than volleyball, and this is the reason I love it. Kita was such an essential character to bringing light onto how great Hinata is not being scared of always practicing and holding onto his past, rather he always tried to seek solutions and improvement. Seeing people as "monsters" and being built different is not the way we should view others, rather look at the work and time they put in and not just play it off to talent. Taking a quote from the final arc in the manga, "The world is unfair, yet very fair." Great video
I have been in love with Haikyuu for a long time... And your video here just said all the things I have felt which watching and Re-watching the episodes of Haikyuu Arigato for the video
Yo, this was awesome, someone understands how deep an anime can get. My family and usually everyone says things like "it's just a show how can you be inspired by it" or "how can you look up to a fictional character" and this is my argument
Loved this connection between Oikawa's Talent-Sense speech and Kita's Monster speech! Also, I think that the first one to recognise Hinata as a true challenger was not Kenma, but Kageyama! Though their rivalry playing out is actually the entirety of Haikyuu hahaha
I mean it’s kinda obvious Kageyama was Hinata’s true challenger. That much was painfully clear in the first few episodes. Regardless if they were playing on the same team they were always going to be rivals. Still friends but rivals and challengers regardless of which side of the court they’re on. Personally, I do think at the time, Kenma was a true challenger for Hinata. But he was not the one who was set in stone for him. Hinata’s goal with Kenma was to make him enjoy the sport. It helped him get better but in the end it was for Kenma’s sake. Not his own. 🤷
For me Hinata's character went from a normal one to the peak when s4 started and finished..it's just the development the struggle was so real bro and you can feel how much frustrating Hinata was in the beginning and after all that it's pays off real well in the end when that receive an epic moment in the whole show happened ..it was a progress in the season to see Hinata became all player that does not depend In others individualy anymore
about geniuses and talent, this is what furudate said: "In every match, there is usually one chapter I’m satisfied with. For Spring Tournament Miyagi Prefectural Qualifiers, that is the chapter on Aoba Jousai’s setter, Oikawa, and the notion of talent and sense, and also the chapter where Inarizaki’s captain, Kita, talks about the notion of genius. In Oikawa’s chapter, I started with the idea that I’d write about the common trope of innate genius and acquired excellence, but gradually realized that “geniuses aren’t geniuses from birth and Oikawa was making excuses”. I had a change of mind, realizing “’You cannot win against a genius’ is not something that highschoolers think. If there is someone who is technically better than you right now, that is something you can surpass through effort” and so Oikawa’s “Talent is something you make bloom, sense is something you polish” was born. The more I thought about the template of natural-born genius, the more I realized it was a strange idea and made a course correction." (yomiuri, 2020/12/24)
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Hey everyone! This video was much longer and had a few rewrites to make sure it was what I wanted. I'm really proud of how it turned out and appreciate any like, share, or comment - because it would be great if this video didn't flop. Also! I know I criticize Oikawa a lot in this video, but I want to clarify that I love him as a character, and what he added to the story. He's a great antagonist, but while I really like his mindset in regards to the story, the mindset in itself pretty much dooms the person to failure.
Don't worry bro we'll support u
hey hiding big fan pls do a my top 10 or 20 or 50 favorite anime of all time I know it's hard and a lot of people are gonna say shit but pls do it for the fans thanks
Hey, Hiding! A little correction on 7:02. The twin's last name is Miya. The gray haired one is Miya Osamu. Great vid nonetheless!
I love your channel comment section so calm and not too many people someday you'll blow up with this high quality deep analysis videos Ihope you get more recognition while also afraid to say goodbye to the comment section
no matter what you make at this point I will support you
"The most dangerous type of person is the one that constantly learns"
This can be applied to many many different context
And geniuses are almost always among them.
does type of person “ If you cant do it alone , just do it together then ” including one of them
@@aadishjain8827 no
Well, I mean it's stated as a "person" for a reason not specifically "player".
and people who put stereotypes on all learning people like this
Like Oikawa said: “talent is something you make bloom, instinct is something you polish.” No one is born a “monster”, and you can create any talent if you try, just as you can sharpen your instincts as you try over and over again at something.
love this quote so much
Unfortunetly life is not a page of manga. Talents do exists and our in our bodies. Literally. Whether its in muscles bones and joints, senses, ability to grasp concepts or a tendency to follow a certain perspective. People are NOT created equal. The limit of how far we can go in those areas is set since day one. Try as much as you want but thats the truth.
Luckily you dont need a set of talents to be incredibly good at something. That comes from honest old fashioned hard work.
@@mordredvonumbra154 I do agree that people are born with natural skills and talents, but that alone won't take you very far unless cultivated with passion for what you're doing. As for those who aren't "talented ", I wouldn't say their limit is determined at birth. If they continuously grow with that same drive/passion and play to their strengths, wouldn't outsiders see him as talented? But like explained in the video, when two people have created completely different strengths, what really defines either of them as talented?
@@emanchi8403 it depends man. sport is a field where natural attributes kicks more than everything. obviuosly there are countless of atlhete that are not "extraordinary talented" but still with dedication, nutrition and specific training can have an extremely successful career. The problem is when this kind of people want to be the best or one of the best. The reality is that they are destined to be disappointed. that's because there are people born with a lot of talents that can blow up all your dedication. Think about shaquille O'neal, he hated training and dieting, but still is one of the most dominant nba player of all time, and what if these kind of player decide to train as much as you? then you have MJ not only had an incredible vert, inhuman speed and not normal hands, he also was near impeccable from a tecnique point of view. The real point of haikyuu is that not all the talents are that evident. Take Hyakuzawa and Hinata. You could say that Hyakuzawa is more talented, because he is taller, stronger and has longer arms. But seeing them from close you could see that hyakuzawa is not that coordinated or fast and he lacks of stamina. Instead hinata is the fastest player in haikyuu, has an absurd vert, inhuman reflexes and inhuman instinct, also he can see the wall in slow motion and has the perfect body for being a good receiver. If you would question me, Hinata is the most talented of the two, even if at the beginning you would not even bet a penny on him. But no one could know, even Hinata. That's because some talents are not that obvious, so you have to train as hard as possible to see if you can bloom your talents. the show is not teaching that hardwork can beat talent, but that some talents can't be shown before you trained.
"Have you found the limits of your abilities? even though your body, technique and mind haven't been perfected?" Josè Blanco
Sorry to be that person but Oikawa’s mentor said it not Oikawa
Kita is definitely one of the best characters of the series. I think he's the type of player who most people should aspire to be
I freakin love Kita. I also aspire to be more like him haha
Not just player but person
I actually didnt like him
I do be tryin
Fuckin agree
"he was never asking 'why can't i get better' but 'how can i get better'." just changed my perspective towards life. thank you.
this is actually how i kinda jokingly tell people to get their act together, whenever someone tells me "I wish i had..." "It's too bad i'm not..." i flat out tell them "then do it/get it". don't waste time complaining when you could instead be actively working to achieve something!
Bro mine too. I started to cry at that line. It's so strong and powerful. The whole video is inspirational.
This message is why Haikyuu is my favorite anime. “Try your best”, “look for the best version of yourself”, that kind of messages are in almost all shounens, but what makes Haikyuu special is that you see that without any special advantage since the start. They are only kids who want to play volleyball and they try to do their best, and that’s all. No special superpowers or talents, just effort, practice and passion, things that all human being can reach and achieve.
yup. seeing kids try their best... I love every single one of the characters
Lols basically it's all sport anime can do not just haikyuu.
@@username-lz3ht but haikyuu is just written exceptionally well. You can say Free gives the same moral values but the way it was presented just didn;t leave as much of an impact
@@disconsolate3235 imo ace of diamond was better compared to haikyuu
@@username-lz3ht I respectfully disagree but in the end it’s all up to personal preference anyway
That receive from Hinata was one of the most satisfying moments in all of anime. He worked so hard to get to that point and the payoff was simply amazing.
Ya and the second receive when suga cried
I cried when he did because I remembered all the times he practiced and how terrible he was at first like the satisfaction of something you worked so hard for really paid off. And the fact that Sugawara was someone who took time off his day to help Hinata become better is what really hit my soul🥲
This is literally my favorite show and for those exact little detail in every episode that just complete the show. 🤩🤚🏽
It's because he worked hard to get one receive. He failed and attempted so many times, that once made it feel like he had overcame his fear; just like when Tsukishima blocked Ushijima- it's just one point, but that changes the game. The point that they've been trying and failing and attempting to get.
@@TonyTonyCHOPPER_11 saaaame :')
Always felt like haikyuu always tried to say: "you're nothing special"
Though more in a way to mock shounen. No special ability, no plot armor, and you dont always win. Even if it's your last chance.
All characters were put equal.
I really really LOVE THIS MESSAGE because it shows that growing is much more important than the results. You’re working towards something you love and consistently improving. That’s what matters. I tend to not like feel good anime where things always go well for the mc so I got so hooked by Haikyuu’s way of storytelling
Nah Hinata is special. His vertical is something no high schooler can achieve in the amount of time he trained.
@@hido... and yet he still loses.
@@hido... excluding his amazing agility, that's about it
@@hido... yeah but you’re forgetting he’s also short for a regular high school volleyball player. It evens out pretty much
Alternative title: Hiding translates the deeper meaning behind Kita's words and hinata's growth
A little wordy but I appreciate it haha
Yeah but more people would click on a title having "lie" in it.
Yep i got click baited lol nice video, there is ur like :D
@@MalLeviose you didn’t get clickbaited tho...
Hinata is hisoka in a different life
“Haikyuu isn’t that deep“
This video: *exists*
Them:lol ur a ner- 𝔞𝔪𝔵𝔩𝔨𝔞𝔪𝔩𝔰𝔨𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔩𝔨𝔰𝔪𝔨
Chapter 365: *Exists*
Who thinks haikyuu isn't deep?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ain't the only one of it's kind there are countless esseys on the complexety of haikyuu. both from this channel and a few others like @Aleczandxr
“The title is unimportant when the role is filled” what a powerful video 🔥🔥
no replies but 1.7k likes lmao
Wow lmao
This video makes me want to become a better athlete, maybe even a better person.
That's something I can only hope to give. Glad it sends those good vibes
*maybe* a better person
same but replace athlete with artist. in fact im gonna go do my chores rn
I so agree! I'm 40 and tired, but this makes want to run!
@@jacjg3629 optional.
as a competitor my favourite part about the ballboy arc is that it so perfectly showcases the moment you stop just going through the motions and start thinking about the little optimizations and situations in order to improve
Yeah I really enjoyed the small adjustments and things hinata was able to gain solely BECA"USE he was forced to watch and think
@@HidinginPublic yet he could have done it a different way instead of breaking the rules and not really getting punished for any of it just because he's the "precious mc"
@@Killerqueen2000 it’s less that he’s the mc and more that Hinata has high social skills and mental fortitude, honestly if he had the technical skill for it he would be an amazing setter
The punishment was to be embarrassed by being delegated to ball boy when he’s known for wanting to play volleyball and spike but because of his own mental fortitude he was able to handle that “degradation” of being ball boy and improve. The thing is there are other characters who would’ve accepted the punishment just like Hinata, such as Nishinoya and Kageyama. These are characters who either have learned to push through hardship and their own pride in an attempt to grow and develop.
I got off topic a bit but moral is, regardless of Hinata being the mc or not it was his mental fortitude that got him through the punishment that would’ve made most people quit. That coupled with his ability to socialize with basically anyone and everyone made it that he had people rooting for him and helping him even through his punishment. That’s why it felt like he wasn’t punished, because he could handle the punishment.
@@boshlovely2002 well said. But it just didn't have to be done this way just for him to grow imo. It will never sit well with me. Yes I get that he's very passionate and motivated to improve but he's also obnoxious at the same time
@@Killerqueen2000 I believe being obnoxious is part of it. He'll likely go home if he was really told off but he had to try something... dude was just following his instincts. Part of Kita's quote explaining his view of "Talented" people was ""Even if they mess up or if they're hated by strangers or cast out... even if they ignore something we'd consider important." In Hinata's case, it was having the audacity to break through some social norms to get a chance to improve himself... even if getting the chance of just getting that chance was unlikely he still went for it.
Remember, he wasn't accommodated unlike the other players invited there. He secured his own food, went there everyday on a bike in the freezing cold just to be a ball boy.
I think Haikyuu has the best character writing in any single piece of media ever. Hinata is such a genius twist on the stereotypical shounen protagonist. In the beginning he's portrayed as a generic upbeat, dumb, kid but he isn't stupid in a traditional sense because he has moments of extreme focus and understanding even in the first episode. The first major shift in his character is after the block that lost them the match at the end of season one, from there he realizes he has to shift his perspective of the game. He begins with becoming a more well rounded spiker so that he isn't wholly reliant on Kageyama. From there it is the ball boy arc (in my opinion the best training arc in the series) where he is denied the part he wants to play, a spiker, so he is forced to shift his perspective again and the result is becoming a genuinely great well rounded player. The best moments of the show for me have been seeing how Hinata thinks through his challenges, and the solutions he comes up with to overcome these obstacles. The best pay off for Hinata so far has been episode 22 of season 4 where all his training culminated into one receive that finally says he doesn't have any weaknesses he can't overcome.
@@mahbubsaiteidesu yo, if your gonna spoil, please at least warn by saying spoiler and press enter a few times. I'm not a manga reader. You just spoiled shit for me dude
@@mahbubsaiteidesu agreed, please give spoiler warning next time
couldn’t have said it better myself.
@@liza-px1zn thanks :)
@@NaxipTV. he hasn’t spoiled anything that isn’t in the anime
"The worst way to face a monster is to see them as such"
Is that quote from something or did the creator just hit us with some powerful, original, word play? I love it
Can you please explain this line the worst way to face a monster is to see them as such
@@johnwilliam3915 it's basically saying that if you are opposing something, if you see it as a monster, you've already lost because applying the term "monster" makes it sound like it's something you would be afraid of/ intimidated by/ have a diminished chance against. You've already placed whatever you are facing on a pedestal above yourself, rather than placing them on equal footing.
@@Masteph93 thanks for coming after 1 year to explain me 🔥🙌🏻🙌🏻💯..you even had to revise what you said 1 year ago 😂
@@Masteph93 Yeah but its kind of wrong. The ONLY reason I made it to Nationals in Kickboxing and placed first was because I considered the people above me monsters which gave me the motivation to eventually beat them.
@@est727xx5 that's a fair argument. I can see how your logic can be used for motivation. Or maybe, you didn't realize the monster that you were? 😉
I feel like Hinata is the smartest character but people never realize it.
He is always told what to do on the court😂
@Waiatara Crown yeaaaaah that sound better than smart😂 at the time I probably couldn’t find a better word- but I agree
@Waiatara Crown i think he is the smartest because if you look at his entire story, not just the anime also the manga, from beginning to end, he is the smartest. i don’t know if you read the manga so i don’t want to spoil it, but the time skip really shows why he is the smartest.
You mean he’s socially intellectual lol
Nah he’s defo the most hard working but not the smartest y’all sleeping on Tsukki.
* Manga Spoiler Alert*
As much as I love Hinata and I am glad you did justice to his character growth, I think that you missed a bit of Oikawa's Character.
Kageyama and Ushijima's family members were already in Volleyball which helped them built a good foundation for the game, to begin with, while Oikawa and Hinata began their journey on different nodes.
I think in Manga when Oikawa's backstory was explored it stated that he did not have the athleticism for this sport and Noya also said while playing with Seijou that Oikawa did not have great control over his serves earlier so he must have worked super hard to make it work.
I feel like the points that you made that Oikawa was making excuses totally takes away his hard ward. He was working hard and everyone was acknowledging him except for himself.
He set his mental expectations so high for himself that he was not able to meet those in earlier Highschool days. Obviously, he did not give up and kept on going and he dethroned Monster Generations in Olympics.
Hinata is the bright sun of the sports Anime who pushes his limit but Oikawa represents the majority of normal Humans according to me.
It's all subjective opinion and while Hinata is a bit more special for me, I think Oikawa deserves more recognition for how he also overcame his Mental barrier to reach the top.
Edit: Please note that Argentina vs Japan match is not out completely . I am not saying he won against Monster Generation. He went to Argentina and became their setter and was able to play against everyone he saw himself inferior to in his Highschool days.
Thank you for all the likes.
That's the most healthy comparison of two mindsets I have read.
I agree- that’s one of the reasons I absolutely love Hinata and Oikawa.
My top three fav characters have to be those two and Tsukishima.
@@elizabethspain3206 Thanks! I don't understand when People shit on his character saying he is all about good looks and excuses.
Furudate Sensei has written some of the best layered characters. Oikawa is one of the most hardworking Players in Haikyuu. His struggles were different but I am glad Sensei did proper justice to his character.
Finally i found this sort of comment, since my favourite character will definitely always be hinata, i think Oikawa's mindset was relatable to most of people before season 4, though kita's appearance changed my mind. Not everyone can be that determined and still have that feeling of charging ahead with that kind of mindset. Oikawa's hard work is special to me, but maybe self-deprecating myself is enough huhu. Sorry for my rants though if it sounds absurd, as English is not my first language from an immatured brat right here.
I love this❤, nice comparison! Just a question.. Is the Olympic arc already out? The last time I read the manga, we were shown the scene where monster generation is ready to battle oikawa
"But I say to my average self: Do you really have time to look down like that?"
I love Kita
@@HidinginPublic isn't it tanaka who said that?
@@basedchimera5859 yes, yes it was lol. I love Tanaka too, the line shot was epic. Hope he gets the girl
@@HidinginPublic I'm sure you could make a great video on him
@@HidinginPublic that was an amazing 😭
I was so proud of tanaka! Such a beautiful and amazing moment for him
Dude honestly it's a bit of a weird compliment but your thumbnails are some of the most aesthetically pleasing things on youtube. They look so cool
Thank you, I spend hours on them no lie lol
@@HidinginPublic I don't mind one video on how you edit videos lol
Start uploading again! :)
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ESSPECIALLY THE INTROS...
In general, this is one of the anime's that changed my perspective towards life
sameeee
Actually yes.
Genuinely yeah. This and Fruits Basket.
same.
Same heree
Interestingly, something as simple as a receive in volleyball became a defining moment in Haikyuu when Hinata managed to execute it perfectly. It seems incongruous for a nationals player to receive the ball for the first time in an official game, as skill of receiving should have been perfected years ago, but in haikyuu they construct Hinata's development so elegantly that this becomes a moment of triumph.
You have to remember: he was only 15 yo at that moment. There are even professional players who prefer not to receive, if possible, and 3 years is enough time for him to learn
it makes sense considering his lack of training
I've read the manga I can't be spoiled by anything anymore.
Very nice. The ultimate viewer
Unlimited power!
Same!!! Finished it too❤️ So Satisfying for a manga to have an actually great ending
I would read the manga but the problem with that is, I'll finish all my series in a week and I'll just wait cause of the anime and try to forget the few spoilers i see
@@captcuppo8827 i finished it in 2 days...worth it...just do it
I feel like you completely misunderstood Oikawa's character. Oikawa I agree was a bit pessimistic to begin with but he never let the negativity stop him from working hard. You can only say one is making excuses when they try to run from their responsibilities but NOT ONCE did Oikawa in the entire series ever turn his back on the sport or on his way of playing volleyball. He knew Kageyama and Hinata were talented and seeing their growth he accepted what most others did as well, that they would eventually surpass him. I know considering his talents and dreams he should have had a little more faith in himself but that's easier said than done for a high school volleyball player. Oikawa was one of the most realistic characters in the story.. His last conversation with Ushijima after their defeat against Karasuno was living proof of his resolve. It's easy to call him childish and someone who made excuses but that's just blatantly ignoring the amount of effort that guy put in day in and day out to get good at Volleyball INSPITE of all the odds. Oikawa Toru to the end was a fighter unlike any other!!
I don't think they misunderstood Oikawa's character, the video just wasn't about Oikawa. It was more about how Oikawa feels about "genius". And let's be honest, the way Oikawa feels about Kageyama is both a blessing and a curse to him. A blessing in how Kageyama (unknowingly) pushes him to be as good as he can be, but a curse in how he views Kageyama. He's so threatened by him, barely seeing him as another human being with feelings. It's rude, as Kita said. I'm sure some people (Kageyama potentially included) view Oikawa as a genius himself. But we the audience knows how far Oikawa pushes himself day in and day out. Kageyama does the same thing.
And Oikawa almost certainly doesn't think of this when it comes to Kageyama. Calling him a genius and then hating him for it is not only childish, but detrimental to Oikawa in a way. He needs to stop viewing Kageyama as some insurmountable obstacle that will surpass him. Calling him a "genius", in that insulting way Oikawa does, is completely disregarding the work Kageyama has put in. And that's not fair to Kageyama or to Oikawa himself.
I completely understand why he feels that way though. I think most people do, and that's one of the reasons some people dislike him. He's one of if not the most relatable and best written character in Haikyuu!! And like you said, he's also a fighter. If you've finished the manga, you know just how much of a fighter he is, lol.
@@joyc.e.7511 I agree with some things you said, but I think Oikawa DOES know that Kageyama works very hard as well. He's intelligent enough, and very observant. It's just that, given the same amount of work they put in, Kageyama's still a level above him. That's also what (slight spoiler) Jose Blanco told him: 'People who are naturally better than you, have been different from you ever since they were born.' But he also learns from him that he shouldn't complain about that if he hasn't even done everything he possibly can. So he keeps following his own path. His growth throughout the manga is honestly my favorite part. And the best thing is that Kageyama and Oikawa named each other as their biggest inspiration.
@@joyc.e.7511 I completely agree. I couldn't have possibly hoped for a better ending from Haikyuu. Seeing Oikawa standing not besides but on the other side of the net from those who he envied seemed so appropriate. It showed that a person's path to evolution can be different compared to others but that doesn't necessarily mean that he won't reach the same goal. I was left in awe with the way Haikyuu ended. All pieces just fit so well in the end.
Thats what most people dont get about genius and talent. Its that the amount of work put into it gets multiplied by it. Its not addition but multiplication. Equation talent+effort=result is wrong. Equation talentxeffort=result is true. Thus if a genius and a regular person put in the same amount of work,genius gets more results back. Thats why they are superior. If they work as hard as everyone else noone will get better than they.
Lets put it in a single a way. Studying. A regular person usually reads a segment few times, then focuses on important parts and finally focuses on memorizing the data. A genius reads whole segment 3 times and has understood it, knows the concept and memorized it. Without any training. See the difference?
Ugh agree with this 100%
This anime/manga has an insane effect on people. I've read the manga 3 times. Watched the anime at least twice. Currently watching professionals react to haikyuu episodes. And I'm not even playing volleyball (or any sports).
This makes me want to get into volleyball again. I was pretty much in a short lived phase because I needed to focus on school more lol.
haikyuu is one of, if not the best sports anime
@@spartanking1405 i very much agree with your statement
where can i read the manga for free?
This was almost a masterpiece, only if you haven't done my boy Tooru like that...
Absolutely
😊Tooru 🤩oikawa’s ✨ favorite 👏 food 🥘 is milk 🥛 bread 🍞😊His 😃personal🥰 motto 🤪is: 🥳if 🤯you’re 😐gonna😯 hit 🥵it, 😬then😮 hit 😳it 😔till 🧚🏻♂️it 💕BREAKS?😍
@@HariSharanya45 i love me ma Oiks settaaaa
@@rebca888 🥵✋
loved the video but using Oikawa as an example in the "If you think they've been born with talent then you have already lost" seems a bit off considering that Oikawa is easily one of the hardest working players in all of Haikyu!! and also that he never once saw the Kagehina original quick and revamped quick as something that wasn't attainable.
"he never once saw the Kagehina original quick and revamped quick as something that wasn't attainable."
He literally said this to Iwa though. That it was not possible for him to do it.
@@AxelSW2012 He could’ve done it if he believed in himself and practiced. Just like how Atsumu pulled it off in the KxI match.
@@infinitexvoid7605 Yeah, we have absolutely zero proof that that is possible for him. He knows that that toss is nearly impossible and relies on precision that is unheard of.
@@infinitexvoid7605 Atsumu is considered the same kind of prodigy as Kageyama. Oikawa is not. Oikawa was written specifically as a hard working, intelligent, and talented player, but not a genius or prodigy like Kageyama or Atsumu. That's why he works hard at doing the things he CAN accomplish, like setting the best balls for all of his spikers, polishing his serves/recieves, and studying his opponents.
yea i agreed with the video for the most part but okiawa definitely did not slack off. in my perspective he just got too caught up in his insecurity despite being clearly better at everything volleyball because kageyama *seemed* more like a natural than him in his view (like he felt that kageyama's starting point was ahead of his). he became uber focused, even obsessed, and started looking inwards instead of out which ultimately resulted in him losing before the match had even started.
@Nagisalover about kageyama and hinatas quick: yall are forgetting that the only reason it works is also due to hinatas speed, which is said to be rare of some sorts, and not just the precision of the setter. the spiker leads it.
I think that you misconstrue Oikawa here. Oikawa recognizes talent, and the need to work hard at it. But as a former athlete, I can unequivocally tell you that despite all the hard work in the world, there are and will be, people far more athletically gifted then you are. Sometimes you can beat those people with hard work but Kita's point is that not only are those people physically gifted but they also work harder than others. It's the exact problem that Oikawa struggles with.
Yeah this is what people doesn’t understand with Oikawa. He works hard and can’t keep up with « naturally talented » people like Kageyama. But they forget that even if he is a « genius » he works damn hard too (chapter 387 shows it). So there is no fatality in this.
Yes there are
People are not born equally.
Doesnt mean that you cannot be a monster along with these kind of people.
His coach put it in perspective.
Not until you have reached the limit of your own being and have tried everything that you can complain.
"Talent is something that you bloom, instinct is somthing that you polish"
Doesnt not mean your talent will come out with hard work.
It means hardwork creates talent.
Kita was talking about how atsumu would put so much time and effort into his play,
Everything from 1-20 and a to z
Everything he can explore, he will.
Thats where oikawa falls behind imo
He saw kageyama's spatial awareness, pin point sets amd his intuition on the game as a gift.
And he hated how much he wanted to have that gift.
Thats when iwaizumi tells him its a 6on6 game, dont forget.
He takes that notion as a weapon. His only way to rival with blessed people.
Puts his whole self into being the steroids and offense tower of a team that it becomes his talent.
Even Ushiwaka sees him as a monster.
He takes this way of fighting and does it from 1-20, a to z over and over again
Explore every option in that realm and becomes what other people will call a genius. But never did he thought he could bloom the "gift" of kageyama
Because he thinks its a gift, only the chosen one gets it
@@Limpass610 Iwaizumi just meant that if raw skills (gift) are astonishing, it’s not everything in the setter’s job. Oikawa’s quality is ease with others. That’s the « talent » Iwaizumi wanted him to notice. Because of what happened in his life, Kageyama forgot that part, and focused on his skills only (as out of this world they are) while Oikawa did strictly the opposite : develop hi team potential rather than awesome raw skills (even though he trains hard on this point too). He knows he can’t keep up with Kageyama’s gift so he worked on something that Kageyama lacked of : this is what make them complementary. Because once Kageyama understand that and begin to trust his team again he’s the ultimate setter and Oikawa knows that. I think he voluntarily refused to teach him that because deep inside he knew that it was the only thing Kageyama needed to be the best. So he instead focused on what he thought could bring him this gift, until he hurt his knee.
@@Nunelii i know
What im saying is that oikawa resents the "blessed" while he has a "gift" as well.
Its the mindset
Oikawa thinking that this is his only way to fight, he hones it to near perfection, it became his talent.
Kageyama not knowing this option exist, doesnt put a point in it.
People are born different.
You cant be taller because you want to be.
You cant go beyond your physical peak.
But you can hone any skill according to your build beyond just a skill. As long as you know you can do it.
Might take you years. Wont even be as good as other people.
But it will pay off somewhere.
And that place will be your weapon
@@Limpass610 but the fact is that as you said, the problem is the physical peak. Oikawa’s injury proves it. His limits are right there. Of course he has another option. And I think there is no way Kageyama doesn’t know he has it too. It’s just that contrarily to the others players, he had to face tougher hardships. The psychological aspect is a great part of being an athlete. And unfortunately when it comes to certain players it doesn’t end well and you can do nothing against it. So the talent is not everything in Oikawa and Kageyama’s dynamics.
This video seriously made me so happy cause the fandom was more excited for oikawa's ear than this amazing arc and had the audacity to skip the ballboy arc
Yeah I love oikawa but if you take away the hotness from him, he's kind of a childish scumbag. Still love him tho, just wish this good stuff had been acknowledged
Oikawa kinda one of the worst characters in Haikyuu ngl
Oikawa is that lovable asshole character type. That's why Miya will always be the best setter.
@@Thomas-tr6ok and that's why hes one of the most loved one
Oikawa is a variation of the "too angry to die" trope. This man hated the thought of losing SO MUCH he became an Argentinian just so he could actually face the greatest players of Japan. Love the man, he's a diehard realist, you could argue that his desperate clinging onto talent dragged him down, because let's face it- talent exists, a lot more in someone and a lot less in someone else. but at the same time he works hard as hell just so he could stand up to the harsh "reality" he hangs over his face all the time.
The greatest lie in Haikyuu is thinking that Hinata and Kageyama are underdogs
Kageyama was never an underdog tho
Yeah Kageyama was feared and acknowledged as op since the beginning
@@fiveh3340 he was always a hot dog tho😋😏
@@dickmaker5405 I know what you're trying to say but I'm thinking of the food now
@@dickmaker5405 weird😐
one thing i have noticed as the anime went on was how Hinata managed to fall in love will volleyball himself. in the first season, his really only driving force to keep playing was the little giant. its a constant thought of "i want to be as good as the little giant" or "i want to be an ace just like him". but over time, we see him think this less and less. in season three and four, i didn't see a single instance of that mind set. there was no "i have to be at the same level as the little giant". i think that as he started playing and creating friendships, crafting his own playing style, and wanting to reach out to be better constantly, he made his own love for volleyball. there's no desire to be someone else, or rather be just like them, he's just himself, playing how he wants. before all he wanted was to be the ace. the cool position that gets the spotlight. but overtime, he realizes that it doesn't matter what position you play. weather it be a blocker or a setter, or anything else, everyone keeps the ball in play, and keeps on giving it their all. and we see him understand that slowly by him making his own as "the greatest decoy". he fell in love with his position, and with the game that hes playing,not needing to be anyone or anything else to achieve his goals.
i rambled on for way longer than was intended, and i probably made no sense, but yeah, those are my thoughts.
my god, why haven't i realised this myself
it's so obvious but you're right, he originally did volleyball just to be like the little giant or be the ace, but he gradually fell in love with it. and trust me, in the matches following inarizaki, he continues to love the sport even more and distance even further from being the little giant and ace.
Reading this comment I remembered when Hinata found out from the little giant himself that he no longer played and instead wanted to try new things, then Hinata says he is not disappointed hearing this... it was because Hinata played volleyball because he truly loved the sport and no longer just to become his idol lol
You had me until the Oikawa slander. He missed the receive because the blockers put it off the expected trajectory
He did downplay Oikawas character depth but I was waiting for Oikawa to mess up a receive tbh. Oikawa is the type of person who picks out in other people what he doesn't like about, or struggles with, himself. All throughout season one he was pointing out other peoples bad receives or telling them that they should work on them. He did it first with Tsukishima and Hinata in the Aoba and Karasuno practice match. During the official match, he talks about how important receives are, he says 'Behind every strong set up, is a soiled initial receive' along with other things about how important it is to get a good receive (i think thats the quote, in dub anyways. its something along those lines.) Also i dont know any other exact quotes but if you watch the match and listen for them he talks about receives a lot, it isnt noticeable unless you're looking for it but once you do notice you cant miss it. The missed receive was his fault, he was struggling with them and he messed up at the worst possible moment. He didn't let it get to him though, he accepted it for what it was and he grew from it and now he's on the Argentina volleyball team!! he isnt my favourite character but im very very proud of him (❁´◡`❁)
@@marinn_zya I never noticed that! But I think that disproves this guy's hypothesis even more: it proves that he's not some whiny crybaby and asserts his will to craft his own ability to succeed
@@angeloortiz2769 Oikawas character is so deep, there is just so much more to him than what's on the surface and I really wish more people recognised that! \(@^0^@)/ That's why I love when Oikawa and Hinata meet in Brazil, it really shows another side of Oikawa that we didn't get to see when he was in high school, he's kind and carefree and helped Hinata out a lot, it's shows what he's like when he isn't pressuring himself and just letting himself be ╰(*°▽°*)╯
@@marinn_zya he missed it cuz it hit the blocker that’s literally the reason
@@marinn_zya this is so incredibly wrong.
Pointed out the flaws in Tsukishima and Hinata's recieves? Well guess what, at the same time, he complimented Hinata for his block and the broad cross hit.
He is an objective character when he is not playing psychological games.
It's super dishonest to say he picks flaws in others he doesn't like about or is within himself. It's actually pathetic projection.
If it's not, give me one example of when Oikawa picks out a flaw in somebody that he struggles with himself. There's literally no instance but you've seemed to form a pillar of his character around something that doesn't exist.
No clue how you're wildly incorrect and projective comment is even upvoted as many times as it is.
This season gave me chills that no other anime has even come close to. With Hinata's receives and the "break point" rally I got teary-eyed more than once while watching.
I love Oikawa's growth, as even in the anime thus far, as towards the end, you see that he has started to push himself even more so and to not be stunted by "monsters". Even when watching the nationals, he's now seeing these "monsters" as motivation to push himself as he's continuing his own training. Seeing him in tha manga also shows this growth, without getting into spoilers. I'm glad he's begun to push past that stunt mindset
oikawa is definitely also a monster. he’s been called one a lot and if you read kita’s speech and description of a monster again, it applies perfectly to oikawa
I don't think Kita's words make Oikawa wrong, instead before the last rally between Aoba and Karasuno when Oikawa says he can make talent bloom he's stating the same that Kita says. When I saw it back in the day I thought that were words of resignation but after this last season I understanded that what Oikawa said was that he was not going to give up, because if he did then he would never have the chance to discover his talent (or make the talent bloom as he says)
Definitely agree! Oikawa is easily one of the most hard working characters in the show and his character is very complex. He doesn’t see Kageyama’s talent as his own limit, thus why he was able to keep improving and surpass even his own limits.
In the era of monster generation, Oikawa is one of those monster. His skill and talent recognize by some of the best players of that era, Ushiwaka and Kageyama. In the end he even playing for Argentina national team. He definitely talented player.
In the end Oikawa won like that's it KANXKSBFKSNFISNXIDN mans legit said he used the generation of monsters as a stepping stone. He's more human than any other characters that's why I love him. No arguments there
This is a great slap to those people who says that Hinata is nothing without Kageyama.
Not really without kageyama he would never have gotten any playtime or thought from his coaches he needed kageyama initially so as other people could see his potential
@@_-__. then again kageyama needed hinata as well
@@_-__. kageyama wouldnt have gotten any playtime without hinata
@@_Aesop he would've gotten playtime just not as much he was just super cocky at the start
@@_-__. I dont think he would have.Hinata actually pushed him out to be considerate of other players as well.
If kageyama was alone in that team without hinata ,He would have to go great length to be habitual to the team "fallen rivals/crows" and even then he wouldnt have played his best or pulled his teammates best.
Hinata was the one who actually kinda get him rid of the cocky prince title imo which kinda made him more acceptable to other players.(Also english is not my first language so please excuse any mistake )
JEEZ THIS EDITING IS TOP TIER
Thaaaannkkkkssss I spent a lot of time on it. Especially the text around 7-9min. That took forever
Yeah, I feel that while Oikawa at the beginning of the series he felt like this in the flashback with his coach he commits to making himself a "monster" which is reflective in the process. While he does view Kageyama and Ushijima as naturals he still takes every opportunity to face and challenge them he gets to the point that he rather keep trying to surpass Ushijima rather than giving in and joining his team. He constantly seeks to improve despite believing he is overall worst than these "naturals" which I feel is a toxic but understandable mindset. Despite him being so gifted and driven himself, he refuses to acknowledge that and sees himself as inferior which is really realistic. Even Ushijima the person who he's competed against this whole time thinks he's one of the greatest setters and wants him to come to Shirtorizawa. Kageyama who he views as a monster literally based his whole initial playing style off of Oikawa down to the jump serve yet Oikawa himself doesn't view all that hard work and natural talent as anything special which is why I think his coaches words are the best way to confront this feeling. Stop worrying about what others have and you don't and find the limits of your own skill. Only after doing that can you complain. This I feel finally clicks at the end of season 2 where despite losing Oikawa still wholehearted intends on overcoming and defeating Ushijima. Even though Oikawa complains about this "unfairness" where I feel that he differs from the players Kita was talking to and by extension, the audience is in the fact that despite thinking this he keeps going on and finding new ways to compete.
TLDR: Oikawa is a monster in everyone but his own eyes which is pretty depressing but leads to that monster like work ethic the video talks about but just comes with a side of bitching now and then.
Did you read the manga?
But doesn't Oikawa's mindset change maybe not totally in the way he sees things but he does believe in having to put effort. Have you reached the limits? As he is asked by the mysterious coach..
@@andromeda9391 yeah he’s much more positive when he later meets up with Hinata and is overall over this negative mindset. I’m just saying that High school Oikawa is everything he complains about but he just can’t see it.
you just opened my chakra, my third eye and even awakened my mangekyo sharingan.
LMAOO MOOD
what i love the most about hinata (among all his precious traits) is that the more you crush him down the more he thrives. it's hard to work when you're deprived but damn hinata here setting the example we all should be reminded of
This one is going to be long :
I started to love volleyball when I first watched haikyuu. I fell in love with the characters, plot, but mainly the atmosphere of volleyball, that this anime conveyed, I wanted to feel that. So after that, I and two of my friends, that also loved volleyball, joined a volleyball team that I found on the internet. We exercised a lot, and I worked hard, but I always felt like I fell behind two of my friends, due to our coach picking them more for practices, than me, and me just observing their skills and comparing them to mine. I felt worse than them, not just as a player, but as a person, because I just couldn't put that much work into it. I hated this feeling. After that I started coming less often on time for practices, some days even skipping them, just not to feel this pressuring feeling. But then I felt crushed.
One day our coach decided to split our group in two, one group for stronger players, and the other for weaker ones. And it was that moment, when he picked two of my friends, but not me, that I just broke. "This is it, this is the ultimate evidence of me being worse", " I am worse" - I started thinking. I couldn't bear this feeling, so I left the team after that. And tried to remove anything that connects to volleyball from my life, just not to think about it. I cried, a lot. I started to resent volleyball. And particularly Haikyuu, where I saw all these "monsters" and felt like I could never be like them. And it stayed like this until several things happened.
Fast forward to me after a year or so, we are playing volleyball at school. I was hyped, but not as though I forgot everything that happened before, I just wanted to play volleyball after such a long time. We started playing, and during this game, I realized something. I still felt this exiting feeling for my teammate, that played good, to serve, and I knew he served good, and I wanted him to crush the other team, and when he did, I felt such an intense feeling of excitement and happiness, that is hard to describe. Save, toss, spike, and all those little moments, and feeling that I didn't realize I still felt about them led me to a conclusion: "I still was in love with volleyball". But not only for anime, but for all of those feelings it gave me. I decided to return to it. And I felt that: "I still want to play". And now, after I started practicing again, I still had thoughts that I am just not as good as others, that they were just born like this, that they were just better, like my friends before. But this phrase of Kita that I heard in this video, and the way it was communicated that really opened my eyes, that people are not just born as "monsters", but they work hard for it. Where any other would put 2 hours, they put all 5, "where others practice on a scale of 1-10, others do it on the scale of 1-20, or a more effective 10, or a denser 10", and because of videos like this these, I am really reminded that I can also be good, that I can still improve, that I can still play volleyball.
So thank you very much for making this video, it inspires me to keep going. Thank you.
Watch "ping pong the animation " its literally this story.
My favourite thing about Hinata’s character is that he inspires the people around him(and the audience) to improve. He has such a strong ambition and the will to fulfill it that he rubs off on everyone around him
This brings me so much joy because Kita is always overlooked by the fandom for Atsumu, Osamu, and Suna, plus some people don’t acknowledge how much Hinata has grown since his first ever match. It just warms my heart to see my favorite characters appreciate and I even learned more about the messages they share. :))
Actually, nearly the whole fandom acknowledges how Hinata improved and grew over the series. Kita is overlooked because he was only on a few episodes and there’s not much clips of him. He is one of the characters people deeply connect with and one of the most human in my opinion but, there aren’t enough clips of him for people to recognize him as much.
I draw shit and whenever people tell me I'm talented I feel frustrated inside, though I usually don't say anything. By calling me talented they assume I was just born being able to draw good pictures, ignoring the 4 years of drawing daily I had to do before I even got to this point, able to conceive a decent drawing. I'm so glad I found this video where someone else can finally express this point I always had in my head.
What if you don’t have free will, and all your actions are just antecedent causes. Perhaps you were just fated to be hard working person that got you to this place. So, necessary external factors made you want to work hard, but are you sure that was your inner will giving power to assent? I’m not gaslighting you btw, I just don’t know if I free will exists.
You literally just described my life. I’m tired of people discrediting countless years of effort by claiming it’s innate talent👎 like come on bruh I didn’t ignore normal life for you to call my skill a genetic advantage☹️
Talent is one of the worst insult an artist can get, heh
Its really not that deep, just accept the compliment for what it's worth - a genuine response to how great they think the artwork is. I agree that it could've been better worded, however it simply shows their awe for your skills rather than discrediting your hard work.
I think you're mistaking the word for gifted. You can get talented by working hard at something but that doesn't mean you were born with it.
"It was a process. A calculated, continual, consistent, admirable effort."
I'm so glad you like Kita, Kita is a good boy
Kita is a big Fav
This is a true blessing. Haikyuu is one of my favorite anime of all time, and I'm so glad seeing some super good analysis of how deep this show is about.
Never have I been so offended with something I completely agree with in regards to the Oikawa criticism lol. The Adachi edit actually made me laugh, id say its a bit different since Oikawa actually put in effort while Adachi just dodged responsibility but... 10/10 meme!
lol I hope it wasn't too mocking or offended people too much. Adachi put in the effort to be a cop and make a life for himself but he was thrown into the boonies idk. Either way their mindset was based around some fake idea of some people just having talent when others have none
@@HidinginPublic not too mocking at all lol, I love Oikawa as a character, but its more so an appreciation for him and his flawed mindset as a whole, less his particular ideology which is kinda yikes. at the end of the day its just excuses, I found it quite funny!
I feel like he's completely misunderstood Oikawa's character though. Oikawa I agree was a bit pessimistic to begin with but he never let the negativity stop him from working hard. You can only say one is making excuses when people try to run from their responsibilities but NOT ONCE did Oikawa in the entire series ever turn his back on the sport or on his way of playing volleyball. He knew Kageyama and Hinata were talented and seeing their growth he accepted what most others did as well, that they would eventually overcome him. I know considering his talents and dreams he should have had a little more faith in himself but that's easier said than done for a high school volleyball player. Oikawa was one of the most realistic characters in the story.. His last conversation with Ushijima after their defeat against Karasuno was living proof of his resolve.
@@castaside I agree with that analysis of Oikawa, the Adachi comparison hurt me a little because I feel like Adachi put in a 3/10 on his best days while Oikawa did everything on a scale of 1-10 at a 10, but it goes back to what Kita was saying about the denser 10, Oikawa is a "shitty guy" as Iwaizumi put it, (and that's one of the things I love about his character, and I know a few people like him), and instead of always trying to improve/better himself for instance when Kageyama joined his middle school team as a "genius setter" he became jealous and anxious instead of seeing it as healthy competition to push and improve himself with or even learn from. Oikawa's mindset of people having innate ability/limits is somewhat true, but seeing someone who is enraptured by a genuine passion and love for the sport improving as much as they can for the sake of the love of what they're doing regardless of any sort of limits is what really pushes someone into that denser 10 or A-Z, I still think Oikawa is my favorite character, and his mindset has some flaws, but that's not to say he isnt well written as a realistic individual with a passion for volleyball himself! Hidings talked about Oikawa a bit on the twitch streams when we've gotten into haikyuu discussions and I think the video glosses over his appreciation for Oikawas character a bit and is focused more on his deterministic mindset
@@HidinginPublic I didn’t like that you said OIKAWA missed that receiver but he really had to move his hands cause it went off the block and he wasn’t ready for that
Something I’ve always really loved about haikyuu is that it’s characters are relatable even to people who don’t/have never played volleyball (like me) Some people hate how slow the matches progress bc of the time it puts into understanding each character, but it’s something I really appreciate because it gives something for everyone to relate to. Seeing hinata’s growth in his weaker areas was one of the best things to see in this season, and his mindset is so sunny and inspiring. These characters make me want be a better person at the things I pursue too ;-;
I love that little orange haired shrimp. He's amazing. Karasuno is amazing... honestly, all of Haikyuu is one of the anime I immediately reccomend to people.
"Oikawa is basically Adachi but if he was a hot high school boy" -Hiding 2021
It's just facts
@@HidinginPublic luckily oikawa had a good mentor with him so he didn't end up murdering people
Everyone has emotions even the so called “monsters” when you go against the best team you would expect to lose but for people who we so call “monsters” losing is never on there mind just the moment and the things they can learn from that moment.
I love this video! And to be frank, I would even say that by the end of the second Seijoh match, even Oikawa has realized that the notion of genius is outdated and not something he should focus on. His speech “instinct is something you polish, talent is something you make bloom” shows that he learned that the only way up is to continue and not give up. Oikawa was never intended to be proof that you can only succeed with talent alone. Imo it’s rather that many fans only focus on the “not a genius” side of Oikawa, because it’s more relatable. But it’s only that, relatable; feeling like you can never catch up to those monsters is a normal feeling and I think it’s beautifully portrayed through Oikawa, so I wouldn’t go and say that oikawa’s character is toxic (which you didn’t imply specifically in the video, but it did come off like as if you did).
OIKAWA was horrible in middle school and than kaheyama showed up and oikawa started to work and train and study volleyball everyday and lived volleyball idk if you were saying OIKAWA was born talented or kageyama was but they weren’t
I LOVE this analysis of Kita's 'rant' and Hinata's growth. This message is such an important one, no matter who you are or where you come from, because we're all being conditioned to have this 'talent', 'genius', and 'monster' mentality. We see what people have become, the end result of their successes, and how awesome the rewards they reap are, but we fail to notice the sweat and blood and tears and time it took to get there. And more importantly: we fail to realize that we can do it too.
Your analysis reminds me of Carol Dwek's idea of a Fixed Mindset v.s. a Growth Mindset. A fixed mindset, exhibited by the two players Kita spoke to, can only see the results, the end products, and compare that to where they stand now. Kita, who exhibits a growth mindset, looks at the constant, continuous, and effective effort. He looks at the process, because ultimately that's what it is, it's the everyday little steps and conscious effort that allows the people they call 'monsters' and 'geniuses' to get where they are. And the thing is: they are still mid-process. Their progress NEVER stops, and that's the destructive lie in a fixed mindset- that there will come a time when you can't improve, that you will find your apex, but no such apex exists!
Check put this video if you want to learn more about Growth Mindsets: ruclips.net/video/hiiEeMN7vbQ/видео.html
I also recommend to anyone (especially college students) to read On Course by Skip Downing. It covers very similar topics that help to enhance self-improvement.
And can I just say: "The title is unimportant when the role is filled" GOSH I love that!!! New favorite quote regarding leadership, because it's so true. The best leaders lead by example, by their own continuous progress and perserverance. We can all achieve what these so called 'monsters', 'geniuses', and 'talented' individuals have. We just have to be willing to work for it, day after day.
Anyway... AWESOME video and analysis!! I always love your take on things Hiding in Public! Keep up the great work
This is an incredible video, and really encapsulates so well why I love Hinata as a character. I can only aspire to have the same level of tenacity and drive to achieve my own goals. Hinata as a character just moves me so much in a way that no other fictional character ever has.
I don't know why but every hiding video i get lost in thought about how it reflects on my own life and it always makes each video so special and makes me feel inspired in some way.
I really love how this season of Haikyuu addressed talent and skill. Passion or innate talent isn't what makes someone a monster or a genius, it comes down to what they work on every day, gradually building up their skills
a Hiding in Public video about Haikyuu??
consider me blessed
It's been almost a year but bam here's anotha one
@@HidinginPublic and as always, the video was phenomenal! i love the editing in this one, and listening to it gave me absolute chills!
keep up the great work! 👌
I cried for 17 minutes straight. For someone like me who has no motivation but enjoys watching these kind of anime, I found Haikyuu!! as a place of comfort and peace. I really admire every character and I coudln't have expressed my thoughts as well as you did here. Great job!!!
Are u okay buddy?
"Stop trying to live a life that is not yours, instead of trying to change who you are, take everything as data and see what you can do with it "
I'd like to add that this doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve your life, it juste means you must accept what you can't change and do your best with it
for example in volleyball, if you're short, complaining about it and dreaming about how life would be amazing if you were tall won't do anything.
But accepting it and then try to improve your jump will help you reach your goals
Haikyuu and Hiding making me feel things again, what a good day
Hope you have a good weekend too Senh
Something tells me Hiding in Public really doesn't like Oikawa.
when oikawa did his last set to iwaizumi, he grew as a character bc he realized what kita said later in s4.
that is why the season is named as '-to the Top' and not '-on the Top'.
brilliant observation man! loved your explanation on the subject!
Wow!! The most concise reaction I've watched so far. And I don't mind listening because a real Haikyuu fan can talk for hours, or even days about how great the analogy of the anime/manga is in real life.
I never thought I'd be so happy listening to someone for 17 minutes and 30 seconds talking about my favorite anime just telling how immersive this story really is, it really opens my heart and I hope you keep creating content. Because this was definitely one of my favorite videos I've ever seen.
Man this video is so motivating, holy shit.
I find people talking like that about "talent" in real life too.
Someone is spending hundreds of hours learning something, just to get better. Then someone comes and tells him "Man You are so talented". That is literally an insult
This is a video I know I will come back to when I'm struggling and need a little bit of a push to keep moving forward
Always, Keep moving forward! :)
Ill suggest a video that gives extreme motivation, the video is called 'The Rise Of A Benchwarmer'
I absolutely love it. This kinda review is only someone who went very deep into life can get to. And about oikawa, his character was made in such a perfect way so that everyone watching it can relate to him one or the other way
Kita was one of my favorite characters from season 4, but Hinata is definitely my favorite. With a 2D character I learned a lot of discipline, passion and recognizing my flaws and improving what I have. your video reminded me of that! thanks!
Ya know, this is a great video, but being honest i feel like it glosses over Oikawa a little bit. Much as i hate to admit it, he's one of the most interesting characters, and seeing his growth from his admittedly atrocious attitude towards kageyama in MS to his being able to basically unlock his old rival's potential ("have you even tried to give him the tosses he wants?") shows amazing growth, not only knowing that this will make them tougher opponents, but knowing that what he's talking about might not even be something he himself would try to attempt (the perfect backspin pass that takes kageyama a LOT of montages to master). Seeing how invested he is in following Karasuno post defeat (watching their match vs shiratorizawa in disguise, listening to them over his headphones as he jogs) could be read as obsessive/wrongheaded, but i read it as him being invested in shedding his pride and pain associated with the match, and trying to grow that supportive streak that he showed when giving Kageyama that crucial bit of advice.
He wasn't asking "Why can't I get better" he was asking "How can I get better"
That touched me
To the top really made me fall in love with the character of hinata and how he thinks.. and when him and people around him realize that he has grown a lot since he 1st came to karasuno..
that receive and that high recieve from hinata is just something else.. it always make me feel heavy in my chest.. and brings tears to my eyes
And this is the season i realized.. to any person.. an athlete or not..
Hinata is best character to look up to.. to think like hinata every day every moment.. Being that self analysing.., honest..,hardworking.., and insanely positive.. He is just perfect example of how a man should be.. according to me
I was sad when Netflix stopped airing the show. At least here I have glimpses of the show that stood with me through my voyage of healing …and sync of episodes with my life etc all really made sense….from the sun appearing in specific times etc ……I don’t know how I landed here but I did and therefor I’m so HAPPY MY FRIEND …..YOU DID AN awesome description . Your ability to recognize what many of us see ( or perhaps few lol) shows that you are humble and fair . Blessings to you and again thank you .
Kitta is a top tier character and I'm really glad someone took the time to really dig into him and his ideas and how they relate to the show. Great video
i think to show his growth you could have maybe mentiones the time where he was playing with his little sister, and let her practice with his pass routine, and when she recognice that now the ball and him looked like friends now. I think it was a really eye opening scene that showed how much effort and growth he has experience.
Man I can’t wait to see how you analyze hinata’s growth and how he puts it to use next season such an entertaining and insightful video thanks for the content!
This series is truly so beautiful and inspiring, at the end of every episode it just makes you wanna go out there and try your best, work up a sweat and just do something productive. Not to mention how the rewatch value is pretty much infinite (+ 2nd time around once you get to know more about the players on the other side of the net it brings up the stack to a whole new level since it makes you root for both)
Haikyu is such a huge comfort to me and I am so happy to see someone like you acknowledging how beautiful the story is. Whilst it is funny, exciting and entertaining, it frustrates me how the deeper messages are often overlooked by the fandom. Thank you for making this.
Wow this is truly a true fan. Someone who looks into the quotes, pay attention to the signs Im moved how someone other then me noticed this. Honestly i dont understand how this video has 88 dislikes when it should have 0, Hiding in Public you...moved me. Everytime i watch an anime theres always a life lesson and with Haikyu being realistic fiction it shows that even though your not tall or not what its supposed to be you still can do it. A lot of people these days give up over one negative comment instead of using it to persevere yourself to try hard, prove them wrong, move foward. Haikyuu is all about perseverance , Hinata is the inspiration. Its like what Osamu said "You get hungrier" Hinata is getting hungrier and hungrier. I think no i know Hinata isnt going to be the Next Tiny Giant No because he is going to make an AMAZING name for himself, his own name.
This is really inspirational!
All my life I was just making excuses about how I can’t draw good like “am younger and and they are older and have more experience “
Or “I can practice later”....I now know that I should keep running, keep practising
Because people who are better then me,..must have worked hard
Not everyone is born with natural talent...but people who have talent, work hard so hey can’t we?
It doesn’t matter if someone is gifted or more better then u, think about you’re self and only about what u do
I will keep running and never give up!
This anime literally gave me inspiration of never giving up
I think this is a wonderful point to bring out. I feel like when I first watched the show I was just amazed by the cool volleyball matches and missed a lot of the plot and character growth. But watching it for a second time I came to realize that the show is more than just cuties swinging at a ball. There is so much to relate to even if you don't play a sport. The idea that successful athletes/people have made it to where they are just because of their "natural god given talent" is such a - ahem excuse me for i am about to meme - weak mindset. It is just so wonderful to watch you and listen to how well you are able to articulate these themes. So thanks for the great video broski! cnt wait for the next one
"For Persona fans: Oikawa is just as if Adachi was a hot school boy."
HOW ABOUT NO. Don't do Oikawa like that
This is awesome, captures why this is my favorite show, i also love aoashi for similar reasons
I almost cried two times watching cuz the meaning of this whole video was so much to take in and change me and this is why haikyuu is an anime that made me changed my pov on everything ty
Kita may have only had a short screen time, but i love this character so much.
Wow, this really helped me a lot. I also play volleyball and I starting watching Haikyuu because I play. This show has helped me in so many ways I am very grateful for it. I have been in a rough patch in my motivation for volleyball and this video helped me find it again and I thank you for that.
Dude... I always felt a certain special thing towards Haikyuu, a feeling that made want to be better but i never really understood it. I want to say thanks for making this video because it was what i wanted to hear for a while now to give me a little more courage to live and fight just a little bit longer.....
Thanks...
Also the quotes u mentioned so spot on my fried. …so haaaaapyyyy…more more more more more ……more,ore more
so well we all agree that haikyu is a timeless masterpiece that the world is missing out on.
haikyuu is so good and everything about it just proves how good it is great vid
10:13 suddenly I remember when Kageyama said: Hinata never say "it's impossible" nor "i can't do it", he always say "i will do it"
I feel like you've misunderstood oikawa a bit (well a whole lot), oikawa's character and arc is literally just what video gets at. He was burdened by constantly losing to the blinding strength of ushiwaka and when kageyama enters the fray it's the thought of being surpassed by a kid two years younger than him that haunted him-he saw kageyama "someone who has probably been playing for two years lesser than I have and shouldn't even be nearly as athletic as me yet". The entire point of all of that was that he was looking at things through a broken lens.
That's what the final karasuno v seijoh rally accentuated (and actually a whole lot of oikawa centered episodes too). "Instinct is something you polish, talent is something you make bloom" and "how do you know you surpass him, even though haven't realised the peak of your skill and prowess, how do you even know you're at your limit" show that clear as day.
Oikawa's arc wasn't just him realising that his team mattered more than his self, that was just a facet of him realising that intuitive sense wasn't all that drove home success in sport, that there are other things one can do to win, other things that compensate for ones lack of effortless skill. The point of his character was showing us that there is no point in backing down from what we perceive as pure genius. Even in the first interhigh oikawa says "I may not be a match for your rapid rate of evolution Tobio..." not "I can't compare with your genius"
But what Oikawa never considered was that Kageyama doesn’t improve at a faster pace than him. He began playing volleyball when he was literally a TODDLER. This is what restrained Oikawa back then. Thinking that he couldn’t beat a kid whom he considered as genius, when this kid is just a hard worker as he is.
@@Nunelii it wasn’t that he was a hard worker it’s that he was always going to watch his dad play and practice and so kageyama was always at the gym so he just practiced since he was their he was their everyday and wanted to be a ball hog so he chose setter and OIKAWA has worked a lot harder than kageyama in my opinion
@@Nunelii but why do people forget that what hindered Oikawa and what pushed him forward was always present in him. That Oikawa held both kind of thoughts simultaneously in him, that he may not be able to beat kageyama or ushijima because they are monsters, but he would beat them even though they are monsters. Oikawa absolutely does have the negative thinking and insecurities, but not even once ever did he stopped trying and he tried in the hopes to beat people he falsely considered naturally better than him. It hurts when people makes Oikawa's character to be the type who makes excuses. Because even with his negative mindset he never did once made any excuse, because a person making excuses gives up, or works less hard, or is happy after losing a match against a person considered a genius. But oikawa would be frustrated and try even harder to beat them next time. Oikawa's mindset also have this "how dare someone implied that I can't beat genius" attitude and this is the opposite of making excuses. And eventually he even grew out of his negative mindset as well by the time he was a full grown adult. So if even though oikawa had a pretty negative mindset early on, he never made any sort of excuses. And well what you gonna do if you're that sort of person who overthinks a lot or give in to pessimistic mindset quicker. Everyone is not like hinata with his optimistic attitude. Oikawa is just the night version of hinata, or hinata is the sun version of Oikawa. Some people are just like that, give in to negative emotions quicker, and Oikawa is an inspiration to all those because despite being that sort of person, he never gave up, or made excuses, and continue to work hard and follow his passion with his pride intact and achieved his dreams. Some people would be like hinata who are more positively pre disposed. Someone inner workings of mind are also things that cannot be changed in a flip or ever.
@@Nunelii it's not that Kageyama isn't a hard worker. It's just that he was born with a lot more inherent talent. Oikawa, while really really good at volleyball, wasn't a born prodigy. Kageyama worked hard but a lot of things probably came easier for him. Think of it this way: they both put in serious work but Oikawa had to work twice as hard to achieve half as much. That's what Oikawa's whole shtick is, the fact that there will be people who are more talented than you but you can achieve just as much as them even though your path may be longer and more arduous.
@@Nunelii But you have to think about it from Oikawa’s 13-14 year old days. When I believe he started developing the feeling that Kageyama was a genius. He was just a teenager who didn’t understand his emotions. He thought he was below him and that he couldn’t beat him no matter how hard he tried because Kageyama was simply, well, a genius. In his eyes at least. Oikawa just never grew out of that mindset, most likely because it ate him up inside. Plus, a lot of things probably came a lot easier for Kageyama since he started volleyball earlier. Oikawa was only a kid when he started feeling jealous of Kageyama and to a degree hatred. Coming from someone who is barely older than Oikawa in those scenes I can see where he was coming from. He didn’t have a strong hold on his emotions because he was only a kid. I mean, imagine someone you viewed as a genius and you thought was better than you come up to you and ask you to teach them stuff. That would be a slap to the face. Oikawa worked his ass off, just like Kageyama, I’m not saying he didn’t but, I’m pretty sure athletically Kageyama got things a lot easier. I’m also pretty sure Oikawa saw Kageyama in the same light he did Ushiwaka. (As scene in that one clip from season 1?) This might not make sense but it makes sense to me in my head and I’m not really sure how to put it into to words. 🧍
Haikyuu is much deeper than volleyball, and this is the reason I love it. Kita was such an essential character to bringing light onto how great Hinata is not being scared of always practicing and holding onto his past, rather he always tried to seek solutions and improvement. Seeing people as "monsters" and being built different is not the way we should view others, rather look at the work and time they put in and not just play it off to talent. Taking a quote from the final arc in the manga, "The world is unfair, yet very fair." Great video
I have been in love with Haikyuu for a long time... And your video here just said all the things I have felt which watching and Re-watching the episodes of Haikyuu
Arigato for the video
Yo, this was awesome, someone understands how deep an anime can get. My family and usually everyone says things like "it's just a show how can you be inspired by it" or "how can you look up to a fictional character" and this is my argument
Loved this connection between Oikawa's Talent-Sense speech and Kita's Monster speech! Also, I think that the first one to recognise Hinata as a true challenger was not Kenma, but Kageyama! Though their rivalry playing out is actually the entirety of Haikyuu hahaha
I mean it’s kinda obvious Kageyama was Hinata’s true challenger. That much was painfully clear in the first few episodes. Regardless if they were playing on the same team they were always going to be rivals. Still friends but rivals and challengers regardless of which side of the court they’re on. Personally, I do think at the time, Kenma was a true challenger for Hinata. But he was not the one who was set in stone for him. Hinata’s goal with Kenma was to make him enjoy the sport. It helped him get better but in the end it was for Kenma’s sake. Not his own. 🤷
Havent caught up to S4 P2 yet so gonna watch this video in a month. Just dropped by to say Hi!
Noooooooooo hurry and finish ittttt
@@HidinginPublic I willlllll, i just have my exam on monday T^T
hello
@@mappplesirrup8473 Hiiii
Good luck on your exams!
For me Hinata's character went from a normal one to the peak when s4 started and finished..it's just the development the struggle was so real bro and you can feel how much frustrating Hinata was in the beginning and after all that it's pays off real well in the end when that receive an epic moment in the whole show happened ..it was a progress in the season to see Hinata became all player that does not depend In others individualy anymore
about geniuses and talent, this is what furudate said: "In every match, there is usually one chapter I’m satisfied with. For Spring Tournament Miyagi Prefectural Qualifiers, that is the chapter on Aoba Jousai’s setter, Oikawa, and the notion of talent and sense, and also the chapter where Inarizaki’s captain, Kita, talks about the notion of genius. In Oikawa’s chapter, I started with the idea that I’d write about the common trope of innate genius and acquired excellence, but gradually realized that “geniuses aren’t geniuses from birth and Oikawa was making excuses”. I had a change of mind, realizing “’You cannot win against a genius’ is not something that highschoolers think. If there is someone who is technically better than you right now, that is something you can surpass through effort” and so Oikawa’s “Talent is something you make bloom, sense is something you polish” was born. The more I thought about the template of natural-born genius, the more I realized it was a strange idea and made a course correction." (yomiuri, 2020/12/24)