Thank you for this tear down. Have fixed my error 2 code by simply taking the pump out, giving it a spin, and taking the lollypop stick out making sure all is clean. Now works and saved me over a hundred pounds to replace. Found the pump and accessed it from under the unit. One happy bunny :)
Thanks GazS for this video. Love seeing the internals. I took my 2018 LayZ Spa unit apart and it's similar, but different. It has no thermal trip switch, but the rubber nub remains. The heater is similar shape but different style. On the newer heater, there are still two temperature sensors but now a single over-temp thermal cut-off switch in place of the thermal trip switch of the older style. There is also only a single flow sensor on the newer unit. The air pump, while the same basic size/shape... looks different with easy to remove cap over the foam filter on top. The new unit also uses a large ground/earth bar where all components ground to. Cool to see the evolution of this popular unit.
Thanks for this video - really useful. I need to tear down my Lay z Spa Premium Series pump as it's leaking water. You've given me a good idea of where to look (pump, heater etc..) thanks. Dave
Thanks for the video. As expected the impeller system works exactly like a larger aquarium filter. My 8 month old Coleman keeps making more noise. It sounded like an impeller issue and that is probably what it is.
Hi Gaz , I have Lazy spa monaco hot tub. When I turn the heater on the pump ,the electric supply to the pump keeps cutting out after a short period of time. This usually occurs roughly after 10 -15 minutes. I've pressed the reset button and changed the fuse and directly plugged into the mains electric, without the extension cable.
Hi! Great video thank you! 1) Are you sure that is damage due to chlorine? Perhaps it could also just be hard water deposits? If it is chlorine damage to the aluminum, I wonder if bromine would be gentler.....2) I keep my jacuzzi built even over the winter, and it gets very cold here, based on your video, I think it would be safe for me to insulate (wrap) that entire unit as long as I was careful to leave the air holes open. If it overheated, it would protect itself...
The overheat Function trip is the last line of defence. Usually it should be cooled by the water going through, but if the pump fails and the Flow sensor fails too, the overheat trip occurs. So yeah, stay away from the Ceramic heaters and youre gucci
I know this was posted a few years, but I hope you get this question. I have a Coleman portable spa. A pitcher of water accidentally spilled on the outlet and top of the control board. The spa immediately shut off. The GFI power cord blew. Several attempts and replacing the GFI didn't work. I opened it up and discontinued all electric connections to the heater. The spa came on, but with a EO5 error. This error states "The pump thermometor connections" aren't working properly or is broken. What is the pump thermometor and where is it located> Kind regards, Debra
Hi Gaz, Plug fuse was blowing (not RCD trip). Have measured resistence of heater elements A to A and get 115 ohms and 415ohms B to B - wires disconnected from terminal block. Does this still sound like heater element is broken?
Hi Gaz, I wonder if you can help. I have a palmsprings lazyspa. When the jets run you can't run the heater at the same time. I have read there is a jumper to override this, do you know if this is correct and if so where. Cheers
This is some excellent info here thanks Gaz, good on you! Sorry to add another question but our pump which was new out of the box 9 days ago is tripping the RCD when the heater or blower button is pressed, the pump runs and if the temp is dialed under current temp pump runs, ive pulled it to bits, its dry and circuitry looks fine.
+Dan Bo the only way to properly identify the fault is to use a megohm tester, that said, its most likely to be the heater. Try running it with either of the two heating elements completely disconnected. Good luck mate
I've got the lazy spa monaco. Today it's just stoped working no lights on at all. No error codes nothing. Like there's no power but I've checked the soket it is working. Any simple way to find out what the problem is?
Just bought a Miami model in June, heater didn't work out of the box. Opened a ticket for replacement. So far it's been 3 weeks with no replacement. Customer service told me yesterday that it was to ship today. Called today and they said they don't have any in stock. This looks like a nice tub, but I haven't been able to use it for a month, since the water is so cold in it. I'm not sure what the deal is with Bestway as a company, but they sure don't support their customers after the purchase. It only took 4 days to get it when I first ordered it, and now 3 weeks and no replacement. When things don't work out of the box, I see red! Any ideas if this is a consumer fixable problem? I'm sick and tired of waiting for them. Thanks
has any one replaced the entire bestway pump/heater unit? for an intex pool I have for the summer, I completely threw out the included filter/pump assembly and used a Haywood pump and DE filter, crystal clear water now. I'd like to do something similar with the spa. Ditch the included unit, and attached a pump, filter, heater setup directly to the inlet/outlet of the spa. This would have many advantages, such as not relying on the in the spa filter cartridges that clog daily, and faster heating time. I don't need the bubbles, so that's not even a concern.
Id be interested in if you managed to do that. My thought is the Control Unit only switches 110/230 Volts to the pump and isnt limited by power much ( yeah dont forget Heater Draws 2000W so dont overdo it on a massive pump) but 200W For 16A 230V Circuits should be fine.
thanks now I know which part is leaking, the air admittance value, does this mean the unit is scrap or can it be repaired... bad news Bestway are rubbish at customer support and no doubt the parts wont be availiable to make the repair ???.
Hey, any idea on this ? When I start the pump it runs for some time (few minutes) and then it suddenly goes off - display is off as well. The RCD seems to be fine. When I want to turn it on again, I need to disconnect the power, wait 20 seconds and then I am able to start it again with the RESET/Switch button. First I thought it happens only when I start the heater, but it turns off even with the pump only mode (it just takes more time). When I opened it, there was no water inside.. could it be the main board ?
i have the 54075 pump..keeps showing e02 error.backwashed cleaned filters..should we take apart and replace heater sensors etc.where can we get heater.seen some people used dishwasher heater.any help appreciated
Hi gaz, can you explain to me exactly how to check continuity on the flow sensors? Using a multimeter i bridge across the 2 wires on the connector? Do i then need a magnet to touch to then check continuity?
Hi, my lay z spa isn’t heating. No error codes and I already tried doing the thermal reset and checked the fuses. Could it be that both the elements went bad? There is absolutely no heat coming out.
this may be a strange question, but ive managed to break the connector on the top hose that joins the pump to the pool, do you know where i could get another 1 of these or the name?
hello can you run the pump without the heater - as in disconect / by pass etc - was going to see if it can be run with an alternative heat sauce --- cheers
Ok, so I have a question. I haven't seen a wiring schematic, but I am hoping you have and can advise me. I am looking at purchasing one of these and I read that the air pump or whatever blows the bubbles can not run while the heater runs. What do I need to do to bypass that. Is it a sensor that detects air flow that tells the heating element to kick off or what? I have some amount of know how that might allow me to bypass the device if i know what to bypass. Also, before bypassing, do you know the reason that they are not allowed to run simultaneously?
The reason they cannot run at the same time is the 13 amp power supply. running heaters, water pump, and air blower at the same time would cause an overload. This is programmed into the main board. Not easy to circumvent, but not impossible. The Heater would still not overcome the cool down that occurs with the air pump running.
unit is very noisy, working properly other than that. We use Bromine, could a residue from that be causing noise? We took the pump off and flushed with hose...some hard rock/like stuff did come out, but not a lot.
Our lazy spa is brand new, had 2 days and it wont turn on now, one thing im not too sure on, the mains plug had an reset/test button few inches down but the test button will NOT click?
Hello, Only solution was to ring them, we've sent it in for repair, and they've repaired it ans its on its way back to us as we speak, If it does it again, they're sending a new one.
Hi gaz my pump seems to look the same but it blue not grey and it's for a Monaco, do you think it'll be the same ? If so any idea why when I turn it on to heater it trips my electric it's fine on bubbles or pump filter , I have no error codes , any help would be very much appreciated thank you x
Hi There, I'm using the lay z spa heater with a softub tub, The water inlet and outlet work perfectly but I'm worried as water is escaping the tub and flowing towards the air pump, should i be worried or does the valve stop water from entering the pump??
The non return valve isolates the air pump motor from the water, so will be safe. I can only comment from my observations during the teardown, please seek professional advice if at all concerned . I can't be held responsible for anything as result of my assistance. Thanks, Gaz S
Hi Gaz S! Great video which is a brilliant help. I do have a question for you (you seem to be a pro!). I have the blue pump (monaco) which we presume is the same. The pump has water leaking out of the bottom. Ive looked it up and it looks like a 'o' valve needs replacement. Tried to take the top of the pump but cant get any further that the half way point. Any ideas? would really appreciate your help Gaz S! Kindest regards Martyn
We appear to have the same problem with our Lay-z-spa Vegas model. We unscrewed the bottom and it appears that the non return valve rubber on the pump has perished. Not sure how to obtain a replacement one.
Hi Yesterday when I was testing the water, had a very small "tingly" electric shock from the water. RcD in the pump isn't tripping and the unit works as expected, heats, blows etc. I measured the current and it was around 5v from the water to the decking around the hot tub. I didn't have a proper earth to test the voltage from water to earth. Why isn't it tripping and what is causing the water to be electrified? Could it be possible it's full 230v and because of the decking I'm not earthing it properly? Worth taking the egg apart and inspecting the heater elements?
There's no actual RCD inside the unit, its checked by the pcb. The Heater is almost certainly the culprit, as its the only part directly in contact with the water. (pump is low voltage). But there's no fix, as it doesn't come apart. ideally you need a megohm tester, but could use a decent multimeter , best ask someone competent to test it for you. Is there any other electrics (lights etc) that may cause an earth leakage to the decking ? , just an idea . Please let me know the outcome. Cheers GazS
+Gaz S thanks for the super fast reply. I have a working level of electrical knowledge but I work at a firm who does electrical training, inspection and testing, pat etc so will take it into work and take it apart with the guys there. Nothing on the decking is electric, no external lights etc. As soon as i unplug the pump the voltage goes away. I suspected heating element, the spa is 4 years old so I think it's overdue an element failure from what I've been reading!
+Gaz S took my pump apart. Heater element is in good nick, no deposits at all like in your video. Measured the ohms and getting 348 and 345ohms on the individual elements.
Hi Gaz, Need some advice if possible? My lazy spa won't heat over 33/34 degrees. Have tried back washing it, New filter, Without filter. Just doesn't seem to wanna go to the last 5/6 degrees. Any ideas? Thanks Ash
My Pump stopped working with an E04 code..Tried everything in the manual (switching off, unplugging, leaving etc) but even the reset makes no change..Any suggestions Gaz?
Error 04 is a temperature probe fault, try pulling and re fitting wire connections, so sorry for late reply, due to RUclips bugs, I couldn't reply to a lot of comments. GazS
My pump is leaking water. Any idea if this is a fix I can perform myself? (Water is coming out of the bottom of the pump when turned on, not sure where the source is.)
Gaz S look for rust around the screws and washers. That was the way I easily detected where my pump was leaking from. Now it’s trying to figure out how to fix it. The seal crumbled up from chemicals I am assuming.
The little plastic white rod that sits in the middle of the magnetic impeller in the pump is what I need, mind is broken at both ends and allows the magnetic impeller to hit the sides, is there anywhere I can get a replacement for this?
if you have water flow it can only be one of the two flow sensors. you can test continuity at the two wires to each sensor. they are just a magnetic read switch.
Thanks for you swift reply, but i have no idea what you just said, I do have water flow because i can make bubbles i just cant heat it up it says E02 when i try to. What i have to do is check the two flow sensors ? Where are they ?
The Bubbles come from the air pump not the water pump, the two flow sensors are the first two sensors on the top hose. 4 screws on top of each. they are identified in my video. The water pump may only run for a short time if no flow is sensed. both sensors are the same and they act like a switch, on or off
Yeah, that must be why when i try to heat it up i hear the noise for 5 to 10 seconds and then it stops with a E02 error message so that must be the problem, so what i should do is look for the sensors with the 4 screws on top and check themby doing a test of continuity at the two wires to each sensor ?
I see flow sensors but where are the heat sensors. I do not think mine is working. I am unsure what to buy. My unit only has one flow sensor. I see a sensor at the top like the one here. ( I assume to be the heat sensor) It has that grey box with the thing that resembles a dial. But on the side of that there is a wire that goes in from the side that looks to have a heat wrap on it. I would love to get this running, Just need a little direction. I thought there were two heat sensors in a spa?
Am only familiar with the pump unit I have, if there's only one (look at 01:50 in my video) temp sensor will be in the water flow before the pump. do you get any error codes displayed ?, usually any fault will cause unit to beep and not start up. Try removing an re-fitting all wire connections. hope things workout for you. message me if you have any further info. Thanks GazS
Should a person bother with cleaning the Air filter on these things? I would guess not. Seems you have to take the whole Egg apart to get to it? Thanks if someone has an answer. :)
Unless you use the bubbles (air) a lot... and in a dusty place... I wouldn't think cleaning of the filter to be that big of a deal. It's easy to get to. The whole top of the egg comes off with only 6 screws and the air pump filter is on top... easy to get to. Be careful of the ribbon cable going up to the display panel when you lift the top half of the egg/unit off.
any idea where to buy the replacement pump for a Lay Z Spa? I actually only need a replacement impeller but am finding any of the parts impossible to source
I have heard you can bypass their pump and add a 1000 gph pool pump. just takes a few hoses and connectors clamps. My impeller is destroyed and I found this site: www.fixya.com/support/t9072300-lay_z_spa_pump
bottom pipe is inlet, top is hot outlet. I don't think the heater is is built to last, will fit a dishwasher heater to it when it fails. solid control system though .
+richie lodge Hi Richie, I'm building my own fibreglass hot tub, and I'm going to use my lazy spa pump, how did you connect the pump to your own air jets?
@@Eastbaypisces in the base, there's room for a dishwasher heater (stainless pipe with external element wrapped round) . wired it to a second power cable & plugged it into a second power socket. Its heats up more than twice as quick.
Hi, i believe that my air admittence valve is leaking, it only leaks when the pump is running, any idea how to fix this? The only idea i have would be to buy a heavier spring to put on it
hi Gas S, today my unit e02. If I smack the side, sometimes it comes on for about 5-10 seconds then e02 again. would this be those flow sensors too, or the pump? I hear something faintly making noise when no flow, then it e02. this happened right after it e02 to tell me filters were dirty. I changed filters, then this stuff happened. any help would be appreciated - I need this bad starting next week after hunting! thanks!
+popdaddy12345 if you get normal water flow then it stops e02 there's probably crap caught inside one of the flow sensors. If there's no water flow have a look at the pump impeller. Worth pulling and refitting all wire connections inside unit as well. Hope things work out mate. GazS
Gaz S ok i took it apart, took pump apart & impeller is clear & clean. should it spin freely? because mine didnt, but i didnt want to force it. took flow sensor off, was pretty clean except for a small bit of hair. i only have 1 flow sensor in mine. 2 questions: how do i test this without refilling whole hot tub & reconnecting? & 2nd - i see some chlorine deposits on heater element - should i take apart & wire brush that since the unit is apart? Thx!
Gaz S hey any answer you can give me? how do i test unit without possibly wasting 200 gallons? and the heater chlorine deposits - can those be wire brushed off? thanks!
you can test with a multi meter, the flow sensor is only a switch, actuated by a magnet. the pump will cog as you turn it. worth trying to run without filter.
+Darren Lock take the lid off and remake the connections to the temperature sensors. Also try swapping them over with each other. One of them may need replacing. Test the resistance of each of them (after several hours of switched off to allow temperature to equalise) they should read almost the same as each other.
I need a new filter pump #P4071 for my Layzspa. Called Bestway and they do not sell just the parts. Do you know where I can find just the parts for the pump?
Pump impeller rod is Brocken on the second pump and the first the whole casing is cracked. Sure would like to find a new filter pump #P4071 if anyone can help
its probably a ntc sensor (one each on boiler in/out) a dual gang 1k variable pot wired parallel to each sensor will alter temp range. display on pump will now show a lower temp than actual .
If you pump assy is same as my video, there's no reason to back flush, as the filter is inside the spa, screwed on bottom inlet. There's no other filters inside the unit. GazS
anyone have experience wiring two 1000 ohm resistors inline with the temperature probes in order to raise the water temp 3 degrees above the 40c limit?
Its not sensing water flow. if theres a good flow of water check and clean the flow sensors. if no water flow check pump, if poor flow check the filter
Hi, switched my pump on, started working then after 5 minutes totally stopped working, have changed the plug , fuse etc but no power getting through at all, anyone help please x
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WATER IS DRIPPING HEAVLY FROM THE AIR ADMITTANCE VALVE...... I THINK THIS IS WHY OUR HEATER STOPS AND POWER SHUTS OFF......ANYONE???
Thank you for this tear down. Have fixed my error 2 code by simply taking the pump out, giving it a spin, and taking the lollypop stick out making sure all is clean. Now works and saved me over a hundred pounds to replace. Found the pump and accessed it from under the unit. One happy bunny :)
Thanks GazS for this video. Love seeing the internals. I took my 2018 LayZ Spa unit apart and it's similar, but different. It has no thermal trip switch, but the rubber nub remains. The heater is similar shape but different style. On the newer heater, there are still two temperature sensors but now a single over-temp thermal cut-off switch in place of the thermal trip switch of the older style. There is also only a single flow sensor on the newer unit. The air pump, while the same basic size/shape... looks different with easy to remove cap over the foam filter on top. The new unit also uses a large ground/earth bar where all components ground to. Cool to see the evolution of this popular unit.
Thanks for this video - really useful. I need to tear down my Lay z Spa Premium Series pump as it's leaking water. You've given me a good idea of where to look (pump, heater etc..) thanks. Dave
Thanks, pleased I could help. GazS
David Barkhouse any success fixing David, mine has developed same problem?
Thanks for the video. As expected the impeller system works exactly like a larger aquarium filter. My 8 month old Coleman keeps making more noise. It sounded like an impeller issue and that is probably what it is.
+Chris Roberts maybe somethings got in there? Hopefully its not the thin impeller shaft broken, good luck, hope you get it sorted
Hi Gaz , I have Lazy spa monaco hot tub. When I turn the heater on the pump ,the electric supply to the pump keeps cutting out after a short period of time. This usually occurs roughly after 10 -15 minutes. I've pressed the reset button and changed the fuse and directly plugged into the mains electric, without the extension cable.
Hi! Great video thank you! 1) Are you sure that is damage due to chlorine? Perhaps it could also just be hard water deposits? If it is chlorine damage to the aluminum, I wonder if bromine would be gentler.....2) I keep my jacuzzi built even over the winter, and it gets very cold here, based on your video, I think it would be safe for me to insulate (wrap) that entire unit as long as I was careful to leave the air holes open. If it overheated, it would protect itself...
The overheat Function trip is the last line of defence. Usually it should be cooled by the water going through, but if the pump fails and the Flow sensor fails too, the overheat trip occurs. So yeah, stay away from the Ceramic heaters and youre gucci
I know this was posted a few years, but I hope you get this question. I have a Coleman portable spa. A pitcher of water accidentally spilled on the outlet and top of the control board.
The spa immediately shut off. The GFI power cord blew. Several attempts and replacing the GFI didn't work. I opened it up and discontinued all electric connections to the heater. The spa came on, but with a EO5 error. This error states "The pump thermometor connections" aren't working properly or is broken. What is the pump thermometor and where is it located>
Kind regards, Debra
Hi Gaz, Plug fuse was blowing (not RCD trip). Have measured resistence of heater elements A to A and get 115 ohms and 415ohms B to B - wires disconnected from terminal block. Does this still sound like heater element is broken?
Hi Gaz, I wonder if you can help. I have a palmsprings lazyspa. When the jets run you can't run the heater at the same time. I have read there is a jumper to override this, do you know if this is correct and if so where. Cheers
This is some excellent info here thanks Gaz, good on you! Sorry to add another question but our pump which was new out of the box 9 days ago is tripping the RCD when the heater or blower button is pressed, the pump runs and if the temp is dialed under current temp pump runs, ive pulled it to bits, its dry and circuitry looks fine.
By the way its the older 54075/54090 pump
+Dan Bo the only way to properly identify the fault is to use a megohm tester, that said, its most likely to be the heater. Try running it with either of the two heating elements completely disconnected. Good luck mate
I've got the lazy spa monaco. Today it's just stoped working no lights on at all. No error codes nothing. Like there's no power but I've checked the soket it is working. Any simple way to find out what the problem is?
Just bought a Miami model in June, heater didn't work out of the box. Opened a
ticket for replacement. So far it's been 3 weeks with no replacement. Customer
service told me yesterday that it was to ship today. Called today and they said
they don't have any in stock. This looks like a nice tub, but I haven't been
able to use it for a month, since the water is so cold in it. I'm not sure what
the deal is with Bestway as a company, but they sure don't support their
customers after the purchase. It only took 4 days to get it when I first
ordered it, and now 3 weeks and no replacement. When things don't work out of
the box, I see red!
Any ideas if this is a consumer fixable problem? I'm sick and tired of waiting for them. Thanks
has any one replaced the entire bestway pump/heater unit? for an intex pool I have for the summer, I completely threw out the included filter/pump assembly and used a Haywood pump and DE filter, crystal clear water now. I'd like to do something similar with the spa. Ditch the included unit, and attached a pump, filter, heater setup directly to the inlet/outlet of the spa. This would have many advantages, such as not relying on the in the spa filter cartridges that clog daily, and faster heating time. I don't need the bubbles, so that's not even a concern.
Id be interested in if you managed to do that. My thought is the Control Unit only switches 110/230 Volts to the pump and isnt limited by power much ( yeah dont forget Heater Draws 2000W so dont overdo it on a massive pump) but 200W For 16A 230V Circuits should be fine.
thanks now I know which part is leaking, the air admittance value, does this mean the unit is scrap or can it be repaired... bad news Bestway are rubbish at customer support and no doubt the parts wont be availiable to make the repair ???.
to fix e02 error just prime the pump, ie suck water through hose to pump then connect and start.
Hey, any idea on this ? When I start the pump it runs for some time (few minutes) and then it suddenly goes off - display is off as well. The RCD seems to be fine. When I want to turn it on again, I need to disconnect the power, wait 20 seconds and then I am able to start it again with the RESET/Switch button. First I thought it happens only when I start the heater, but it turns off even with the pump only mode (it just takes more time). When I opened it, there was no water inside.. could it be the main board ?
i have the 54075 pump..keeps showing e02 error.backwashed cleaned filters..should we take apart and replace heater sensors etc.where can we get heater.seen some people used dishwasher heater.any help appreciated
If I flip the egg upside down and undo it can I easily get to the plug wires to remove them
Hi gaz, can you explain to me exactly how to check continuity on the flow sensors? Using a multimeter i bridge across the 2 wires on the connector? Do i then need a magnet to touch to then check continuity?
Hi, my lay z spa isn’t heating. No error codes and I already tried doing the thermal reset and checked the fuses. Could it be that both the elements went bad? There is absolutely no heat coming out.
Error eo2 any idea ? I've cleaned everything and flushed water through but still coming up?
this may be a strange question, but ive managed to break the connector on the top hose that joins the pump to the pool, do you know where i could get another 1 of these or the name?
what if you dont have a thermal trip and do you know where we could get new seals?
hello can you run the pump without the heater - as in disconect / by pass etc - was going to see if it can be run with an alternative heat sauce --- cheers
Ok, so I have a question. I haven't seen a wiring schematic, but I am hoping you have and can advise me. I am looking at purchasing one of these and I read that the air pump or whatever blows the bubbles can not run while the heater runs. What do I need to do to bypass that. Is it a sensor that detects air flow that tells the heating element to kick off or what? I have some amount of know how that might allow me to bypass the device if i know what to bypass. Also, before bypassing, do you know the reason that they are not allowed to run simultaneously?
The reason they cannot run at the same time is the 13 amp power supply. running heaters, water pump, and air blower at the same time would cause an overload. This is programmed into the main board. Not easy to circumvent, but not impossible. The Heater would still not overcome the cool down that occurs with the air pump running.
Thanks for a great overview! :)
Aawesome video, rally helpfull, any idea where to get a replacement for the filter pump? Mine is broken :s
unit is very noisy, working properly other than that. We use Bromine, could a residue from that be causing noise? We took the pump off and flushed with hose...some hard rock/like stuff did come out, but not a lot.
Susan Combs.... i am having the SAME ISSUE!!
Ideally you need to take pump completely apart, maybe the shaft of the impeller is broken?
HI DO YOU KNOW WHAT SIZE THE WATER PUMP IMPELLER IS. I BOUGHT A 406 ONLINE ITS TOO BIG AROUND , I THINK MAYBE A 404 NOT SURE. CAN YOU HELP ?
Our lazy spa is brand new, had 2 days and it wont turn on now, one thing im not too sure on, the mains plug had an reset/test button few inches down but the test button will NOT click?
+Callam Sorry, I've not seen that type of RCD protection fitted
Callam, did you find a solution to this? I am having the same issue
Hello, Only solution was to ring them, we've sent it in for repair, and they've repaired it ans its on its way back to us as we speak, If it does it again, they're sending a new one.
Hi gaz my pump seems to look the same but it blue not grey and it's for a Monaco, do you think it'll be the same ? If so any idea why when I turn it on to heater it trips my electric it's fine on bubbles or pump filter , I have no error codes , any help would be very much appreciated thank you x
Did you ever find out what was wrong? I’m having same issues
Hi There, I'm using the lay z spa heater with a softub tub, The water inlet and outlet work perfectly but I'm worried as water is escaping the tub and flowing towards the air pump, should i be worried or does the valve stop water from entering the pump??
The non return valve isolates the air pump motor from the water, so will be safe. I can only comment from my observations during the teardown, please seek professional advice if at all concerned . I can't be held responsible for anything as result of my assistance. Thanks, Gaz S
Hi Gaz S! Great video which is a brilliant help. I do have a question for you (you seem to be a pro!). I have the blue pump (monaco) which we presume is the same. The pump has water leaking out of the bottom. Ive looked it up and it looks like a 'o' valve needs replacement. Tried to take the top of the pump but cant get any further that the half way point. Any ideas? would really appreciate your help Gaz S! Kindest regards Martyn
We appear to have the same problem with our Lay-z-spa Vegas model. We unscrewed the bottom and it appears that the non return valve rubber on the pump has perished. Not sure how to obtain a replacement one.
Hi
Yesterday when I was testing the water, had a very small "tingly" electric shock from the water. RcD in the pump isn't tripping and the unit works as expected, heats, blows etc. I measured the current and it was around 5v from the water to the decking around the hot tub. I didn't have a proper earth to test the voltage from water to earth. Why isn't it tripping and what is causing the water to be electrified? Could it be possible it's full 230v and because of the decking I'm not earthing it properly? Worth taking the egg apart and inspecting the heater elements?
There's no actual RCD inside the unit, its checked by the pcb. The Heater is almost certainly the culprit, as its the only part directly in contact with the water. (pump is low voltage). But there's no fix, as it doesn't come apart. ideally you need a megohm tester, but could use a decent multimeter , best ask someone competent to test it for you. Is there any other electrics (lights etc) that may cause an earth leakage to the decking ? , just an idea . Please let me know the outcome. Cheers GazS
+Gaz S thanks for the super fast reply. I have a working level of electrical knowledge but I work at a firm who does electrical training, inspection and testing, pat etc so will take it into work and take it apart with the guys there. Nothing on the decking is electric, no external lights etc. As soon as i unplug the pump the voltage goes away. I suspected heating element, the spa is 4 years old so I think it's overdue an element failure from what I've been reading!
+Gaz S took my pump apart.
Heater element is in good nick, no deposits at all like in your video. Measured the ohms and getting 348 and 345ohms on the individual elements.
Any resistance to earth ?
+Gaz S just in process of reassembly. What about the thermostat, could that be faulty? That is also submerged in the water
Hi Gaz, Need some advice if possible? My lazy spa won't heat over 33/34 degrees. Have tried back washing it, New filter, Without filter. Just doesn't seem to wanna go to the last 5/6 degrees. Any ideas? Thanks Ash
Can any body tell me what code 8 is use it twice not happy. Ken
+A Holloway I think the first thing to try would be to test both the heating elements, it sounds like only one of them is working.
+Ken Wilks try the reset button on the side of the pump
+Ken Wilks it's probably just the trip on the side of the pump. Black button, or a hole with the reset behind it
+A Holloway would say one of the two heating elements failed
I have a few questions. I'm getting an E04 error. I'm guessing it's the probes. How would I get a part number to order one
+211monkey Best way won't sell any individual parts, best look on eBay for good second hand ones
My Pump stopped working with an E04 code..Tried everything in the manual (switching off, unplugging, leaving etc) but even the reset makes no change..Any suggestions Gaz?
Error 04 is a temperature probe fault, try pulling and re fitting wire connections, so sorry for late reply, due to RUclips bugs, I couldn't reply to a lot of comments. GazS
My pump is leaking water. Any idea if this is a fix I can perform myself? (Water is coming out of the bottom of the pump when turned on, not sure where the source is.)
there's lots of places it can leak from, it's possible that the will be a trail of dry chlorine where it's leaked. worth a look though. 👌
Gaz S look for rust around the screws and washers. That was the way I easily detected where my pump was leaking from. Now it’s trying to figure out how to fix it. The seal crumbled up from chemicals I am assuming.
The little plastic white rod that sits in the middle of the magnetic impeller in the pump is what I need, mind is broken at both ends and allows the magnetic impeller to hit the sides, is there anywhere I can get a replacement for this?
New parts are not sold. Buy used parts from ebay
You can replace the impeller shaft with any kind of non ferrous (brass, copper, alumium) rod, cut to the same length as the broken plastic one.
Hi Gaz S i was wondering if you could help me, i have a problem with water flow error message E02 what can i do ? Thanks.
if you have water flow it can only be one of the two flow sensors. you can test continuity at the two wires to each sensor. they are just a magnetic read switch.
Thanks for you swift reply, but i have no idea what you just said, I do have water flow because i can make bubbles i just cant heat it up it says E02 when i try to.
What i have to do is check the two flow sensors ? Where are they ?
The Bubbles come from the air pump not the water pump, the two flow sensors are the first two sensors on the top hose. 4 screws on top of each. they are identified in my video. The water pump may only run for a short time if no flow is sensed. both sensors are the same and they act like a switch, on or off
Yeah, that must be why when i try to heat it up i hear the noise for 5 to 10 seconds and then it stops with a E02 error message so that must be the problem, so what i should do is look for the sensors with the 4 screws on top and check themby doing a test of continuity at the two wires to each sensor ?
Mine just beeps quickly while the lights flash. Doesn't respond at all when pressing the buttons. What is the most likely fault? Thanks.
unlock it
I see flow sensors but where are the heat sensors. I do not think mine is working. I am unsure what to buy. My unit only has one flow sensor. I see a sensor at the top like the one here. ( I assume to be the heat sensor) It has that grey box with the thing that resembles a dial. But on the side of that there is a wire that goes in from the side that looks to have a heat wrap on it. I would love to get this running, Just need a little direction. I thought there were two heat sensors in a spa?
Am only familiar with the pump unit I have, if there's only one (look at 01:50 in my video) temp sensor will be in the water flow before the pump. do you get any error codes displayed ?, usually any fault will cause unit to beep and not start up. Try removing an re-fitting all wire connections. hope things workout for you. message me if you have any further info. Thanks GazS
Great vid, thanks very much.
when we switch on ,and press temperature it just bleeps and cuts out ,so unable to heat ..any ideas
Should a person bother with cleaning the Air filter on these things? I would guess not. Seems you have to take the whole Egg apart to get to it? Thanks if someone has an answer. :)
Unless you use the bubbles (air) a lot... and in a dusty place... I wouldn't think cleaning of the filter to be that big of a deal. It's easy to get to. The whole top of the egg comes off with only 6 screws and the air pump filter is on top... easy to get to. Be careful of the ribbon cable going up to the display panel when you lift the top half of the egg/unit off.
I cleaned mine after one year of use and it's not hard at all to get to. I would say it's worth doing annually.
Thanks! Looking for a place to put a (iot) temperature sensor and it looks easy inside. Will open mine up ... :-)
Hello!! Any idea on the specs for the blower motor?
Very useful. Thank you
Hi, our Lay-z-spa pump non return valve rubber has perished - is it possible to get replacement parts?
+Helen Penman Bestway do not sell spares, so it's eBay for good used parts
any idea where to buy the replacement pump for a Lay Z Spa? I actually only need a replacement impeller but am finding any of the parts impossible to source
have you had any luck finding a pump? im in need too
Need an impeller part too
For security measures Bestway doesn't sell or produce singularly parts these parts. It will be necessary replace the entire pump
I've seen lots of rebuilt and new parts on ebay UK , looks can link to US purchasing , also some on US version of E bay.
I have heard you can bypass their pump and add a 1000 gph pool pump. just takes a few hoses and connectors clamps. My impeller is destroyed and I found this site: www.fixya.com/support/t9072300-lay_z_spa_pump
Hi. Can you tell me what thread size the A,B & C couplings have on the pump (size and type of thread) Thanks :).
+Pär Sannestedt I'm sorry I wouldn't know how to measure them
Error 04 is probably a failed temperature sensor . Its also worth checking sensor connections at the board
Hi,
I'm using this pump to power a homemade hot tub base. Do you know which pipe is cold water in and which 1 is hot water out please
bottom pipe is inlet, top is hot outlet. I don't think the heater is is built to last, will fit a dishwasher heater to it when it fails. solid control system though .
+richie lodge Hi Richie, I'm building my own fibreglass hot tub, and I'm going to use my lazy spa pump, how did you connect the pump to your own air jets?
@@TribesTrike how d u do that n was it quicker to heat?
@@Eastbaypisces in the base, there's room for a dishwasher heater (stainless pipe with external element wrapped round) . wired it to a second power cable & plugged it into a second power socket. Its heats up more than twice as quick.
Hi, i believe that my air admittence valve is leaking, it only leaks when the pump is running, any idea how to fix this? The only idea i have would be to buy a heavier spring to put on it
+Andrew Mayo it's possible that it just needs cleaning or maybe its damaged in some way, take it apart and have a look
Gaz S i did take it apart and it doesnt appear to be dirty
hi Gas S, today my unit e02. If I smack the side, sometimes it comes on for about 5-10 seconds then e02 again. would this be those flow sensors too, or the pump? I hear something faintly making noise when no flow, then it e02. this happened right after it e02 to tell me filters were dirty. I changed filters, then this stuff happened. any help would be appreciated - I need this bad starting next week after hunting! thanks!
+popdaddy12345 if you get normal water flow then it stops e02 there's probably crap caught inside one of the flow sensors. If there's no water flow have a look at the pump impeller. Worth pulling and refitting all wire connections inside unit as well. Hope things work out mate. GazS
Gaz S thank you very much. i am taking apart this weekend & will report back with results
Gaz S ok i took it apart, took pump apart & impeller is clear & clean. should it spin freely? because mine didnt, but i didnt want to force it. took flow sensor off, was pretty clean except for a small bit of hair. i only have 1 flow sensor in mine. 2 questions: how do i test this without refilling whole hot tub & reconnecting? & 2nd - i see some chlorine deposits on heater element - should i take apart & wire brush that since the unit is apart? Thx!
Gaz S hey any answer you can give me? how do i test unit without possibly wasting 200 gallons? and the heater chlorine deposits - can those be wire brushed off? thanks!
you can test with a multi meter, the flow sensor is only a switch, actuated by a magnet. the pump will cog as you turn it. worth trying to run without filter.
hey do you know what is suppose to happen when you press the reset button?
The reset button is on a over temperature trip. its just a failsafe incase the heater gets too hot
hi my spa is heating up but the it is saying on the LCD 37 but the water in the spa is only about 18 is there any way I can fix this ? thanks
+Darren Lock take the lid off and remake the connections to the temperature sensors. Also try swapping them over with each other. One of them may need replacing. Test the resistance of each of them (after several hours of switched off to allow temperature to equalise) they should read almost the same as each other.
I need a new filter pump #P4071 for my Layzspa. Called Bestway and they do not sell just the parts. Do you know where I can find just the parts for the pump?
+Stephen Aaron There's lots of spares on ebay now, is it the pump coil or the transformer. guess you've already made sure pump impeller isn't jammed ?
Pump impeller rod is Brocken on the second pump and the first the whole casing is cracked. Sure would like to find a new filter pump #P4071 if anyone can help
Do you know how to override the temperature regulator? I would like to get it hotter than 104
its probably a ntc sensor (one each on boiler in/out) a dual gang 1k variable pot wired parallel to each sensor will alter temp range. display on pump will now show a lower temp than actual .
Hi Gaz S i was wondering if you could help me, i have a problem with water flow error message E02 what can i do ? Thanks.
My unit continuously beeps when plugged in no error code. Help!
Hi, Is it possible for us 'users' to purchase spare parts for the unit such as pumps, probes etc? And if so, where from? Thanks.
try contacting Bestway, they will tell you
Cheers fella! :)
how do you back flush the filter system in a lay z spa?
If you pump assy is same as my video, there's no reason to back flush, as the filter is inside the spa, screwed on bottom inlet. There's no other filters inside the unit. GazS
just opened mine up since it stopped heating and there's nothing behind my reset wtf
anyone have experience wiring two 1000 ohm resistors inline with the temperature probes in order to raise the water temp 3 degrees above the 40c limit?
Anyone know how to fix E03 please?
Thank you
Hi. I have a E02 error on my premium. lights also flash. Any ideas? Thanks.
Its not sensing water flow. if theres a good flow of water check and clean the flow sensors. if no water flow check pump, if poor flow check the filter
Thanks I successfully changed out my faulty heater
What did you replace it with?
Hi there my spa water is giving me a shock when touching the water with the heater on but not when the heater is off anyone any ideas
+Darryl Prior I'm sure you'll find the heater is leaking . Don't use until it's fixed and electrically tested
Sorry for lack of personal replys, RUclips is still broken - it makes it impossible to reply to some comments
Hi, switched my pump on, started working then after 5 minutes totally stopped working, have changed the plug , fuse etc but no power getting through at all, anyone help please x
+Kian Hughes Have you pressed the reset button, on the side of the body?
Anyone know where I can buy new rubber gaskets/seals for these?
Lay z spa sell them on their website.
Anyone have an issue where the blower stops working? It trips my GFCI outlet every time right away.
+Rob Packwood Carbon deposits around the brushes and motor chassis can cause this problem. Flush off with wd40 or blow out with an air line 😀
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WATER IS DRIPPING HEAVLY FROM THE AIR ADMITTANCE VALVE...... I THINK THIS IS WHY OUR HEATER STOPS AND POWER SHUTS OFF......ANYONE???
where does the filter go?.
+Mick Will The filter screws on inside the spa to the bottom water intake. GazS
Hi there.
Im looking after the heater element, anyone that find new one someware.
Best regards Mattias.
+Cattoken Check out my other vid, I've used a dishwasher heater. Bestway do not not sell spares, well not in the UK,
You wouldn't know the water pump rotor part number would you
Hi! I am planning on using a ESP8266 controller to remotely start heating/adjust temperature. Anyone here did this? Any advice?
I am planning the same right now.
to keep it clean,mines a miami
I used it in a bus for special trips
cheers Gaz s,i noticed after.top tip do not erect it after consuming alcohol.cheers