How Do You Care For Death Row Inmates and What Are Your Last Meals?- Ask the Embalmers with a Beer
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Kari Northey, a funeral director and embalmer, chats with Ryan and Brian, funeral directors and embalmers from Undertaking the Podcast and John Hill, a funeral director/embalmer/and mortuary science professor. During this series a question is posed to the group of embalmers while they have a beverage of choice.
In this episode, the group chats about caring for someone who dies on death row...a lot of theories since we don't all have death rows in our states. Also, what would our last meals be?!
@Kari the Mortician
www.karinorthey.com
www.undertakingthepodcast.com
My son passed away in prison. The jail released his body and we paid for his funeral. Prior to him being pronounced dead, even in the hospital, he was still considered an inmate. Amongst other things, they need staff trained in mortuary right in the prisons. It’s so sad.
Thank you for sharing this
@@KaritheMortician you’re welcome. It was quite an experience. He was k my 27. Thank you for all your sharing. It has helped me through the grieving process of loosing both my son and my husband of 33 years. Again, thank you and keep the knowledge coming.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your son and husband. That is a lot to bear. 💜
That's how my Dad went straight. When someone died in Prison, they made other prisoners carry the deceased to the infirmary. He told me as he and others were carrying the deceased, He promised himself he would not die in Prison. Dad had been scheduled to be released 5 months later.. Dad never went to Prison again the rest of his life. He walked straight and narrow the last 40 years of his life. I only wish dad had carried someone other times he was in Prison.
I could never understand why an autopsy is required for an executed prisoner as they already know the cause of death.
Maybe, they wanted to make sure they got it "right".....I have a warped/ dark sense of humor....plus my brother has served time....
Stupid & expensive.
Yes it is interesting. I believe they study the brains though for any malformations or things that are across the board with murderers and such.
They did an autopsy on my son who died in jail. They suspected foul play. They said it was strangulation. As his mother, I know in my heart that wasn’t the case.
Th manner of death on the death certificate is “homicide” for death row executions.
Love when you get the gang together!! Always a great time!! Thx Kari
Always!
Kari, did we just see you flip the bird? Wow.
Can't blame you. Some of these death row cases were absolutely disgusting.
yes we did! 😆
yep whoops lol
My grandfather used to buy his pointers from hardware store. John wearing them brings me back to a lot of memories. I learned how to iron clothes ironing pointer overalls.
Very nice!
We have death sentences in Ga. The family tells the prison which funeral home to call and at that point they are the property of the family again. The family pays all funeral costs. John has my mouth salivating !!
Yes thank you!
Hi from the UK. Love these videos and totally love John with the dungarees! Love the way you can all go off topic. Really funny!
In the UK we all thought he might be your new man a while ago Kari..only in my line of work if the last sentence is 'he has to go now to embalm' it's fine! Love to you all x
Thank you!
I'm from Chicago, one of my old coworkers, a truck driver for our logistics companies, went to clown college and knew John Wayne Gacy Personally. He said he seemed mostly normal but you could tell something was off.
Oh goodness
Thank you. Now I know where some of our current politicians attended college.
One great thing about having as much alcohol as you want for your last meal…no worries about being hungover the next day!
Exactly!
Good morning Kari, hope you and the girls are doing well. I laughed at last meal, I thought I wouldn't want anything to eat. Wait, Blue Moon ice cream! 🤔😂
Thank you! Yum!
Near the end, Brian (sor-reeee Brian!) looks SO outta there!! "Shoot, 'hope my pies don't get cold!" 🤭
lol
My understanding is that with the electric chair they give the electricity a path of least resistance by placing a metal electrode against the leg that has been soaked in saline solution.
Yes, the Head gets a wetted saline water sponge and the Left Leg gets the same to create the circuit. Both areas of the body are shaved as well. The blood literally boils when the voltage and amperage is applied. Often times the back and or neck of the Prisoner is broken from the initial jolt.
Thank you
How could you eat knowing you'll be dead in a few hours. Thats a crazy tradition anyway
Yeah it is interesting
It is a weird situation by all means. I’m not sure what the last meal means. Could be prison doesn’t want to be said to have not fed the inmate. It’s an awful sad issue for the family and the victims family.
That's what I always say but I'm not a stress eater like some.
I love these kinda talks,I find this very interesting. Thank you Kari,with your buds and Beers! I could listen to you guys all day. You should start making beer glasses that say under taking American! I’d buy a few .
Thank you so much, Kari and the boys! Having a rough time with pain at the moment and you all just got me laughing so hard and grinning! Thank you - I love all of you!
Thanks so much
Pain is not a fun place to be. Glad you get a break from it with laughter as its the best medicine.
@@nataliehoward4831 thank you!
@@spenney84 you are most welcome. I am in cronic pain 24 7 365 days for 10 yes now. I understand.. feel free to keep in touch. Kerry and her associates a amazing in there fields.
@@nataliehoward4831 I’m sorry to hear that you deal with chronic pain too! 💕
I gotta hand it to you guys. I got mad respect for our local funeral home and all post mortem professions, period. I have about 150 cousins and second cousins right here in one county and needless to say lots of them are cops, lots of them are preachers, white collar, blue collar, everything, with many of them criminals, and addicts, and when we are at the funeral home there is always some conflict between two warring parties within the family and if you're smart you duck in and duck out quickly before the riot starts. Kudos especially for the services where the cops in uniform are escorting an incarcerated mourner while the cops not in uniform give the family the side eye to make them behave during the service. And you have a deceased inmate with an incarcerated next of kin. Poor funeral director there. Mad respect. Just from what I've seen in a family the size of a village it's that you guys put up with way too much. I'm so grateful to have been born into the same, stable half, but love them all anyway.
Another fascinating stream sorry I didn't catch it live but enjoyed the replay.
Thanks for the visit
Morning Kari. This is a great topic! Have a great week guys
Thank you! You too!
Very interesting topic! Thanks everyone!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Texas don't get a last meal cuz someone ordered alot of food and never ate it
yep exactly
Real people….real fun!! I so enjoyed this session!!! Great folks.
:)
Irrespective of the crime once they die they should be entitled to care and a service if only for the sake of the family.
Here's a true story.
Judicial execution in the UK was by hanging usually at 8 or 9am. There had to be a minimum of THREE Sundays berween sentence and execution and it was normal that executions took place within weeks of sentence. After the execution an examination took place in the prison and the inmate buried in an unmarked grave. In a plain coffin wrapped in a blanket with a numbered steel disk referenced in prison records.
At Durham prison in the North East of England some years ago they planned to build an extension to the hospital. The site was where the unmarked graves were.
An archaeologist was employed to supervise removal of the remains. Records were checked and where possible families advised. Bear in mind some of the deceased had been dead for decades. The last execution in the UK was over 30 years prior to the removal of these remains.
There was a service in the prison chapel and the Bishop of Durham arranged for the remains to be taken to a cemerery and buried in a communal grave.
Members from local churches attended a ceremony. There were some complaints in the community. The Bishop however commented publically "These men committed terrible crimes and paid the ultimate price.
They have been judged by the legal system they have been judged by God the time for judgement is past.
Thank you
I love you guys! You speak of an interesting topic but you all can have fun at the same time to lighten it up a bit. A very serious subject indeed. Love the last meals!!!!! I'll take spaghetti and garlic bread and chocolate cake!! LOL!!!
Thank you!!
Fascinating!
Thank you
Hey Kari and guys, very interesting discussion! I'm with Brian and John, I love food! I'd want pizza and other good stuff and soda to wash it down. Take care!
I always enjoy the 4 of you, but this one has been fantastic!
Yay, thank you!
This was a fun conversation. Interesting topic!!!
Thank you!
I have a suggestion for a topic of discussion. What about : A person who had experienced or heard that "see" a family member whose pre - deceased, coming to take them to heaven....Would pastor's, priest's, minister's or person's working in hospice, nurses, etc....having heard someone stating that someone is their to guide them to heaven.
I have had such an experience with this, I have also heard of this phenomenon....It was very comforting to have heard their words first hand....
Randy
Randy Fritz I am a pastor who can't even begin to count how many funerals I've done. I have heard these stories multiple times.
@@margarethutchens5463
My partner was hospitalized in Dec 2009 and was in the hospital for 1 month. He caught a staph/MRSA infection ( accidentally pulled out his IV and proceeded to clean up the blood, it's a wonder the nurses left hime do that....Hospitals are notorious for having germs....He was in hospice from Wednesday till the following Wednesday....Jan 20, 2010...Friday before he died he made that statement he saw his mother in the doorway...I don't believe in the paranormal or doing seances or fooling around with Voo Doo....I feel that we invite evil into our lives/presence....
Thank you for the affirmation....We both had/ have our faith and Savation. He was raised Lutheran and joined the Episcopal church. I was raised E.U.B, which changed to Methodist. When my dad remarried we started going to Hahnstown United Zion Church. The denomination was a break off of Bretheran Church( a conservative church). I was going to Mt. Olive Lutheran Church in Minneapolis, MN...Charles and I were members of St. St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Downtown Philadelphia, PA.
That's my history....
Thank you
Randy L Fritz
John 14:12. We can have a private discussion if you like but this scripture gives the grounding for what I have experienced. I don't know why people who are claiming to be believers are surprised when this happens. I have no doubt his mother was there. Over my lifetime of experiences I have come to believe there is no greater force in the universe than love. How many times have you heard God is love? You two had a great love. He had a great love with his mother. How much greater is God's love? I don't know of any humanly way to express it. It won't surprise me at all if he greets you one day as well.
@@margarethutchens5463
Yes. I'm on Facebook and you can message me on messenger..
My brother passed in 2018. The hospice nurse & my niece were in the room when he had what’s called “a moment” & he passed several hours later. The hospice nurses witness those times a lot!
I absolutely love these videos, you guys are awesome!
Glad you like them!
"you can buy it at the co-op" hahahaha I burst out laughing
:)
North Carolina does have the death penalty, but it was last used in 2006.
Thank you
Ohio ran out of chemicals so executions are on hold. I think.
I love John Hill & his passion for food!
Us too!! Its beer and burrito national days today and we are going to film to celebrate...just need to find a topic!
Good morning 🌅 Love your channel and will share it out 🧡✌️
Awesome thank you!
Love watching you guys, you are all very funny and give good information on the subjects you are talking about. Trying to figure out when and what time Brian and Ryan's podcast are posted on RUclips.
they do podcasts so they will be on spotify or apple podcasts
Thank you KARI for letting me know where to find Brian and RYAN. I am not sure if I have Spotify. I don't have apple podcasts. Will ask my son about Spotify. THANKS again.
In the state of Texas they stop the last meal request in September 2011
Bad people ruin it for the rest of the bad people
@@KaritheMortician This is a goodone.
They need to come back with the chili cheese burritos !!!!
Yum
Thank you 💘 Kari I love the podcast
You are so welcome!
Toujours un véritable moment de détente🎬Beau Travail🔬🍀Alexandre From France🙏🌹🌌😉
:)
This was really interesting thank you . I'd have homemade Mac n cheese ,Tatertot casserole ,loaded baked potato, rice w steamed vegetables n cheese , calamari , choclate cake ,& glass of Wine 🤗
Sounds great!
There’s a you tube video called “The death row chef” I think his name is David price and he works in Huntsville, Texas
I will find that!
I will never understand why prisoners that are about to be executed are given a last meal? Why ? They’re about to die and will never be hungry again. Did they offer their victims a last meal? No, so we should we give them the privilege of a meal of their choice. How about donating that meal to a homeless shelter or a food pantry?
Its a weird thing right
John....Did he realize he made a pun....Taco Bell keeps me going.....😀😀😀😀😀
lol love it
Great discussion y’all! I know here in Georgia, last meals are limited to $25 and all the lethal injections I’ve attended, I accompany the body to the ME. Once he signs, my job is done. If a person is unclaimed, the state buried them in a special place with just their inmate number on the stone.
My last meal would have to include sweet potato pie.
Thank you!
Never eaten that before
Why not allow them a Fentanyl overdose? Seems like it would be a good way to go and gets the job done fast. Guards wouldn't even need to go far to get the drug and it might be available in their local park-lol.
You've got to remember that a large percentage of inmates come from low-income backgrounds, so it goes to figure that their families just don't have the financial means to claim the inmate's body & have a funeral. They may do a private memorial service or some type of get together, without the body.
very true
Hi Kari and guys! I am curious as to if you all listen to music while doing your jobs as surgeons do in a hospital? Thank you!
Yes I do!
I think if I worked as funeral director/embalmer I would listen to the decedents favourite music.
good morning kari great video as always! very interesting topic!
There are assisted deaths here in my community. The ones I have been involved with both were cremated after.
Hi Kari! I survived and I'm back on the "Used Husband Lot". The ex only got my blood pressure down to 50/30 at it's lowest. Deputy's kicked her out of the house.
There is light at the end of the tunnel!
My husband calls Mich Ultra - near beer! 😅😂
Love that!
Kari you gotta try the crown peach if you havent had it. Its sooooooooo goooodddd
It is so good!!
Kari,
Tell John that I live 30 minutes from Vidalia, GA. MY aunt is from there, too. What about the homemade cornbread to go with it
I will!
Excellent dialogue!!
:)
Loved this video!
Thank you!!
What's worse, what about those last phone calls or visits from family?
Very sad
it be interesting/sad if the inmate had a food allergy that the staff never knew about and he or she ordered that as their last meal in hopes it would kill them before the prison could
Oh that would be interesting
Good morning ❤️ ❤️
Happy day!
Love your videos Kari they are so interesting.
Thank you so much!
What happened if a loved one dies in prison doesn't mortuary send them to where they live if they live out of town or does the family members have to go pick them up
Some families do not have the funds to handle funeral arrangements while others do not wish to claim the body. In AZ if this is the case, arrangements are made through the chaplain's office for the body to be removed to the medical examiners office. Then a local funeral home is contacted to make arrangements for transportation back to the prison where the deceased is laid to rest on prison grounds at the prison cemetery.
In the event the family wants to have a funeral away from prison grounds, the family would make the arrangements and assume the expense.
The funeral home is called and they are picked up at the medical examiner after the autpsy
I have worked in a prison facility in Ohio that has an on going cemetery that goes back to the early 1900s. The head stones are cast concrete that has their State number, and death date. I can't remember if they had a birthdate or not. There is a directory on a placard with the inmates name and a location map. It looks like the numbers are the metal ones that you get to put your address on your house or mailbox. I imagine that the headstones were probably made by other inmates.
I would want grits, eggs, bacon and a biscuit.
LOve breakfast
If the condemned was executed by lethal gas or lethal injection, is there any need for safe guards during preparation.
Great question
Great channel, Kari!
Thanks so much!
Until recently we had three prisons in my rural county, in California. While with the sole local mortuary, I did removals from all three prisons.
Prison deaths around here (the death penalty is done in a distant part of the State) are from murders among prisoners, suicides, & natural causes. In all cases we have dealt with the next of kin. If there was no next of kin, the county or the state would handle it, resulting in cremation and their urn box being stored in a shed in that jurisdiction.
One of our prisons is a recently built federal facility. The first death there was a visitor, wife of an inmate. But I did pick up prisoners there at other times.
Perhaps the most macabre case was an inmate who died on his release date. As I drove out with him, his family was checking in at the Visitor Center. They didn't know yet that he had died. They thought they were taking him home.
I drove right by that center on the way out. Right by that happy family!
Thank you for sharing this!
I love you guys soo much!
Yay Hoosiers!!
Yeah!!
This video 📹 is so interesting 🤔 thank you Kari and the boys much love Arlene from Scotland xoxoxo
I doubt if I'd want a last meal. I would probably pick at it. But if that's the case, I want to pick at something good, like: lobster & baked potato w/ either collards, or string beans; some shrimps & scallops, with potato salad, and 2 20oz. Pepsis.
Thank you
I follow true crime and from what I know, no state that has the death penalty allows for alcohol as part of the last meal. One cook who used to cook death penalty meals in Texas before they stopped allowing prisoners to select them stated, that after death, the meal becomes stomach contents. Sorry for being so graphic.
This episode should have been called Wine'n an Dine'n
lol
There was a young black boy I believe was Willie Francis I think that was his name in north or south Carolina that served his first execution
@Thai Mays
You must be talking about George Spinney who was electrocuted @ the age of 14 for a crime that he did not commit. Very Tragic 🥲
@@tan-tan7745 no I'm talking Abt Willie Francis there's a book on him that I read
I will check into it
If an inmate dies before the end of their sentence, they are buried standing up. 😂😂😂
:)
I too share John's anticipation for the return of the Mexican Pizza. 🙂
So soon!!
I don't know if I would even care about food before being put to death in prison but if I had a choice, it would be either Italian or a whole meat lovers pizza from Papa John's with ranch dressing for dipping and sweet iced tea to drink. I'm from NC like John and we love our sweet tea and country style steak. I prefer mashed potatoes with mine. If you've never had it, you don't know what you're missing!
Thank you!!
I would have a 5th of tequila, a frozen margarita, boiled shrimp, fried shrimp crawfish with potatos, mushrooms and garlic, lobster and steak, some cheese toast with sharp cheddar cheese with a Dr. Pepper and some sour punch straws for dessert. With a cheese burger on the side.
Here’s praying that John develops his extra three stomachs! LOL
yes he needs one
Very interesting.
Thank you
Hi Kari can a person who has died in suspicious circumstances be cremated or do they have to be buried incase they have to be exumed . sorry not spelt ex right .
The medical examiner has to sign off on the cremation indicating they have everything they would need from the physical body
@@KaritheMortician thank you for replying to me XXX
What is the podcast you said you listen too? That the subject of last meals came from?
My last meal would be a English breakfast like in the old days, and a lot off beer lol
lol nice
I wouldn't want a damn thing as a last meal. All I'd want is prayer.
:)
Did John Hill used to work in TN??
I will ask Jack
Hi my question is...wouldn't the current and heat produced from electrocution cause the tissue to possibly cook and if it does how would you go about the embalming process
The electrocution is low voltage to short circuit the heart essentially
I know little about lethal injection, but being in the medical field, I rather doubt they use a 'poison' but instead a humane combination of drugs. Now you're sending me on a quest. Thanx. Groan....
OK, so I did look it up... Per Encycl Britannica: in the following order: (1) sodium thiopental, a barbiturate anesthetic, which is supposed to induce deep unconsciousness in about 20 seconds, (2) pancuronium bromide, a total muscle relaxant that, given in sufficient dosages, paralyzes all voluntary muscles, thereby causing suffocation, and (3) potassium chloride, which induces irreversible cardiac arrest. If all goes as planned, the entire execution takes about five minutes, with death usually occurring less than two minutes after the final injection. Nothing unusual about these medications. You're welcome.
thank you!
Love those Pointers John! I'll take you to Taco Bell any day....I'm in Charlotte! 👍
Awesome!!
I love you guy's!
Thank you!!
Taco bell here disc the Taco salads. I like the Mexican pizza too.
So good
Hello, So I have a hard time with gluten and cow dairy. Can you have sheep and goat dairy? I also have found rice noodles. They come in lasagna form. If you cannot find them in your state I can send you some. Let me know.
Yum! I do love goat cheese
@@KaritheMortician Montinago is the sheep cheese. The goat is in the logs.
I can not wait until the Mexican pizza is back.
As the British, we know more about Pointers.
Pointers :)
Also if you have to do a lot of work to the body .will it cost the family a lot more money .like if you have to put a body back together or is it just one price . X
Depending on the funeral home and the extent
No death penalty in Ma.
thank you!
Is it true the last meal request and a glass of beer came from England before someone was executed ?
Oh goodness I didn't find that answer
@@KaritheMortician Ok
Would a prisoner executed by lethal gas be prepared the same way as a prisoner executed by lethal injection?
I know absolutely zero about the funeral industry but I can tell you that bodies handled after gas chamber are treated entirely differently, and only because I watched a documentary on this once.
A “chambered” body is extremely poisonous to the living. Even just the toxins emitted from their hair can kill the living afterwards. Gas chambers have to undergo a highly specialized cleaning process afterwards with self-contained (pressurized air cylinder) equipment and the dangers involved to the prison staff is largely why they’re seldom used anymore. In the documentary, the prison staff’s goal was to hastily bury the body, preferably immediately afterwards, so as to minimize their exposure.
@@jumboJetPilot I am aware of the processes involved with gas chamber executions. I asked because of the similarities with lethal injection and gas, being that the prisoner expires due to poisonous substances. My understanding is that the cyanide gas can leave a bluish tinge on the deceased. I’m curious as to what approach would be made (if any at all) for embalming purposes
Yes they are all embalmed the same but uniquely different
@@KaritheMortician any chance on elaborating on that, if at all possible? My curiosity and I would really appreciate an insight of sorts. Thanks Kari :)
John's statement 4 stomach's in a cow but, not in a human...😀😀😀❤🌈
lol
Lawrence yea that's the one I was talking abt
thanks
LOL We DO NEED 4 stomach!
I’d order Chinese food but would probably be too nervous and anxious to eat 😅
:)
All that poison just goes down the drain.
from the execution?
Chocolate cake is important 😉
How would it effect the embalmer to work on a death row executed inmate that just practicaly gorged themselves with all that ice cream like kari said, lobster,steak,potato,cake, and liquor like ryan said, or all that pizza? Too bad Texas didn't make a happy in between like a monetary limitation so that they do what i feel is symbolic because in all liklihood the condemned wasn't too spiritual!
Would be the same as anyone eating and then dying right after