The only thing I remember about Matt Cassell at USC was him recovering an onside kick. Surprisingly, he had a better pro career than Matt Leinart, who he played behind there.
@@IkeWarchol407Cassel was allowed to develop on one of the greatest teams of all time, so he didn't have to go out and ball, he could just be a game manager and have some success. Leinart went to a dumpster fire in Arizona. Same deal with David Carr. Whoever went to that 2002 Texans squad was going to get reduced to a greasy splotch on the turf.
Our sisters were best friends in high school. I didn’t really know him bc I had already left for college, but he was always a respectful stand up guy by all accounts
But he did have a healthy enough ego to spurn Josh McDaniels and forge his own legacy as the Chiefs starter. He gave them a tropical paradise island of a victory season in probably one of the NFL's historically most desolate oceans of losing football. I think Chiefs fans will always love him for that--but what do I know, I'm just a Broncos fan who just watched last season...🤣😂😢😭
@@Montag87 I'm a longtime Chiefs fan, we had really high hopes for him when he came riding in on his magnificent white stallion. He didn't live up to those hopes, yet he never did anything to make us dislike him. He's not as loved in KC as Trent Green still is, but he's a standup guy
@@randy7928 Cassel, or Cassuck, as many Chiefs fans called him, was not fond of his time in KC. He's been interviewed saying the Pats had the best fans and were his favorite place he ever played. Remember Eric Winston and his gladiator speech when Cassel was injured and finally benched? I remember the fans turning on him not only because he was not very good but because Scott Pioli, the GM at the time who came from the Patriots, REFUSED to let Cassel be benched. These were some of the worst years as Chiefs fans.
Yeah. Backup QB and starting QB are different positions with different responsibilities during the week and gameday. The Patriots didn't draft him to play. They probably figured that if Brady was out, they're screwed anyway. They drafted him for the same reason they re-signed Brian Hoyer so many times.
Matt Cassel is the most Mike Ditka-esque draft pick to not be drafted by Mike Ditka. Ditka would totally just show up to the USC pro day because it’s the best college football program at the time, chewing on a cigar, see Cassell throw a bomb, and insist to his entire front office that they draft him that year. Probably would trade up for him.
At 11:03 , small correction:Tom Brady tore his ACL not in the preseason, but in week 1 vs the chiefs when Bernard pollard of all people lunged at his leg trying to make a tackle
Came here to say this. This might sound terrible, but I was watching the week 1 games at a bar in Pittsburgh that year, and there were a few people who audibly cheered when that highlight played on the screens. I think we all knew the Steelers were only gonna win a Super Bowl if they got to avoid Tom Brady.
It’s really crazy how Cassel ended up playing at all. Brady didn’t play that preseason at all due to a foot injury. Cassel was so horrible in the preseason that Belichick was trying to bring in veteran competition with Chris Redman. And when Pollard hit Brady in week 1, Pollard blitzed through Sammy Morris, who was only playing because Kevin Faulk had a 1 game suspension for bringing weed to a Lil Wayne concert in the summer. And even after all of that, Belichick was going to sign either Chris Simms or Tim Rattay to be the starter for the year before he changed his mind and went with Cassel
@dnasty312 don't remind me plz. He not only ended bradys season, but also ended Wes welkers the following year, forced gronk to have an ankle injury(limiting him in sb 46) and had Steven ridley fumble and Injured in the 2012 afc Championship
@@Supermoneygang12 By far one of the best QBs of his era. More SB appearances than literally any other 2000s QB I believe with 3? Literally every season he played a full 16 games he made the SB. Let’s also not forget the only player until literally THIS PAST season to have won MVP and SBMVP in the same season. Let’s not forget one of the best ALL TIME playoff QBs. Easily a top five statistical playoff QB.
@@Supermoneygang12 oh wait mb, he was second most SB appearances from 1999-2010 with 3, only behind Tom Brady who was on the Patriots, a team fined and punished several times within the 2000s for cheating to get to said SB games. Stfu.
Cardale Jones was literally thought to be a top 10 pick after 3 games. Not even in next year’s draft class, in THAT draft class. I’m pretty sure he was eligible to leave after those 3 games, and they would have been the 3 most important games any college player has ever played according to the rise or fall in draft stock
I'm an Ohio State fan and I wanted him to go for the draft instead of come back to college. I'm always on the side of whatever is best for the player, and I did not think there was any real chance he was actually that good so going for the inflated contract was his best option.
Jamarcus Russell...that LSU Bowl Game is why he got drafted 1st Overall. Al Davis and Raiders Fans fell in love. I watched it happen in Real Time on the Myspace Raiders Group. It was hilarious, and only got funnier as time went on.
An important thing to note about Jason White as to why he wasn't drafted, he tore both of his ACLs in consecutive seasons and when he came back, the Sooners had to run every play in shotgun formation because Jason couldn't take snaps under center and he also couldn't scramble. Despite this, he became an extremely accomplished college QB after his ACL injuries. He had an amazing football journey. Despite winning the Heisman, NFL teams didn't want to draft him cuz he lacked mobility and had injury concerns. He was the last heisman winner to not play in the NFL (not counting Caleb Williams obviously). he was one of 3 Heisman winners from 1993-2003 to not play a snap in the NFL along with Eric Crouch and Charlie Ward.
@@mtj027 He was unbelievable until the injuries slowed him down and we saw what happened in the Big 12 Championship Game Oklahoma may have won it all that year if they replaced him with Paul Thompson before the Big 12 Title Game. White was clearly handicapped in his last two games
I have always been fascinated by how Cassell became an NFL quarterback without starting in College. This is the first well explained video I have watched, love your work!
Cassel made a pro bowl in 2010, went to the playoffs a couple times, made TONS of money…the dude played 14-seasons in the league. He may very well be the most successful NFL QB who never started a single game in college and had below average numbers when he did play.
Yes, Simms was a two-time Super Bowl champion, BUT don't forget that Jeff Hostetler saved the day and lead the Giants to the second one when Simms got hurt towards the end of the season. (Still a great career for Phil, though.) And I have a lot of respect for Matt Cassel. His successful 2008 season filling in looked like it was strictly the result of the players and coaches around him, but his 2010 with the Chiefs was arguably better (if we ignore the awful playoff loss, at least).
We were awful damn close to no Tom Brady either. If Bledsoe doesn’t get injured he probably holds a clipboard a few more years and is selling cars in Michigan now.
@@MrRyan-wu4jxnot exactly. Brady outplayed Bledsoe in that preseason, but BB was concerned with a lack of experience. He would eventually become a stsrter. Bledsoe wasn't BB's kind of guy.
@@sikecar534 preseason doesn’t mean anything, even back then the idea was not to get your starters hurt. Bledsoe would take a few reps with NFL players on the field then Brady came in with and against guys just trying to make a roster. If Bledsoe finishes that playoff run with a Super Bowl ring there was nothing Brady would’ve been able to do take the job from him in the time left on his rookie contract in New England, and he may not have found a job elsewhere after that.
Okay, you definitely have the best outtro music on RUclips. Also, I think a really fun sequel to this would be how Josh McDaniels was trying to trade Jay Cutler so he could get The Cassassin, and then it would be hilarious to show Cassell defeating the Broncos during his Chiefs tenure. I really don't know why Cassell didn't reunite with Josh McDaniels, but based on his background you would think that would be a highly probable path to success that has a ton of precedent. Instead, he took a big risk and still found NFL success, even if it was short-lived. Gotta respect the guy's grit and self-confidence.
As a Chiefs fan I still respect and like Cassel. Not everything in KC was his fault and we had a mostly terrible roster along with coaching staff. He had a different offensive coordinator each of the four seasons he was with the Chiefs and when he had Charlie Weis as his coordinator in 2010 he went 10-6. He was also his coordinator with the Patriots in 2008 when he went 11-5. Todd Haley pretty much forced Charlie Weis out, and then got fired himself the following season. Edited to mention that Tom Brady didn't suffer his knee injury in preseason, he injured it in the first game of the season against my Chiefs and then Cassel came out and torched us. We would then trade for him in the off-season.
The Chiefs would have been much better off using the Cassel money to upgrade the offensive line for Thigpen and Jamaal. Everybody knew it was insane to pay him $16 million per year.
Brad Johnson is a great story. The Redskins were one bad snap away from the NFC Championship when Dan Snyder blew up his roster and got rid of a future Super Bowl winning QB
You kind of buried the lede on Matt Cassel... 10-5 as a starter is a lot better than "decent" and also the Patriots went 11-5 that year (I guess Brady started one of those games I forgot about) and they somehow MISSED THE PLAYOFFS. Teams going 11-5 and missing the playoffs could be a video by itself. But yea, big undersell on how good Cassel played and how good that Patriots team was that year.
Decent, cause the same team (no important changes on the roster) went 16-0 the year before with Brady throwing 50 TD passes. So loosing 5 more games while throwing half as much TD is decent at best.
@@cod-the-creatori mean BraDy didnt really have a true number one receiver until Moss got there and he got 50 tds. I highly doubt he would’ve had 25 tds in 2008 if he didn’t get hurt, he would’ve probably got high 30s low 40s. 2009 he was coming off an injury and that team wasn’t the same team anymore, 2007 and 2008 Patriots were the exact same team with an easier schedule than 2007
@@azazelvalentine1762 So if someone doesn't throw 40 TD's on their way to an 11-5 season, they're merely "decent"? You're comparing this dude to the greatest of all time, not only the greatest of all time but the best season the greatest of all time ever had.
@@cod-the-creator who said anything about having to throw 40 tds? You mentioned Brady throwing 25 tds in 2009 as to try to make Cassel’s season seem more impressive,my whole comment was about Brady would’ve threw for more than that if he didn’t get hurt. I also didn’t say anything about Cassel, I was talking about how the patriots performed as a whole. But let’s be honest 3693 yards 21 tds 11 ints 63.4 completion percentage and a passer rating of 89.4 is literally decent😂 that’s not a good season and you know it’s not. Those numbers are similar to Brady first few years, and most people considered Brady mediocre his first couple of years. Cassel wasn’t horrible, he was mediocre and was a huge downgrade from the season before with the same exact team and easier schedule and he also got sacked more than twice as much as Brady
Ive always thought how goofy Cassell's path was. Backing up TWO Heisman trophy winners only to get drafted to back up Brady lol like wtf. Like failing upward. He went 11-6 in the pros one year tho.
I waited the whole video to hear about what happened to Timmy Chang and Jason White after being so successful in college. Looking them up after the video I can understand why that wasn't included, a bummer on both accounts.
Oh I love this topic, I already anticipate this episode being good. It's one thing to go from top football/track/basketball etc. star and just be cruising into the NFL before hitting that wall of "everyones a talent here. You can't just skate." But to be someone who had to work at it just to make it to the league because your college for better or worse never chooses you is always an appealing topic. I wonder if with the transfer portal this type of topic will get more bizzare to younger viewers and less likely to happen, or will it happen more to the loyalist student athletes?
I don't think this will ever happen again. These days you would be crazy to stay as a backup when you can transfer to a different school to get a starting position.
The Colts will have to be pretty desperate to have Anthony Richardson at starting quarterback. He has a cannon and is insanely athletic, but he gets shaken out of the pocket if someone sneezes near him and never seemed to learn how to read defenses all that well. He'd throw the ball like a rocket something just to no one at all. It seems like he has a lot of potential to develop, but after watching him disappoint at Florida, I'm not too confident he'll do anything any time soon.
Omg FINALLY someone else sees it too. Richardson is about as sure of a bust as there is. Dude hasn't performed well at any level. He's athletic, seems like a nice kid, but he sucks at playing football. My heart sunk when we drafted him.
Yeah, hopefully he’ll be one of those guys who blossoms when they hit the pros. I’m not a Colts fan, but he seems like a good guy, so I can’t help but pull for him.
I don't know when the NFL decided that running fast and having an incredibly strong arm mattered more than accuracy and football IQ. He probably will have some highlight plays based on his athleticism, but how many times do you throw the balls 60 yards down field? They're only hope is to do what Baltimore did and change their entire offense to suit him but even then he's got to be able to make some decisions that he has proven so far unable to. Back in high school we had some players who were faster than our quarterback and could throw the ball further downfield, but they did not make good quarterbacks. They were more of a used as a gimmick every now and then but not an every down type of player. For all of the hype around Lamar Jackson, he has won exactly one playoff game with that system. I get that this guy is a athletic freak, but I'm just glad it's not my team that drafted him. Don't wish him any ill will and I hope he succeeds but until he proves it I will doubt that that style works until someone can win the super Bowl with it.
@@SamBrickellSame. I was just a teen, but I still remember the stress of going into that day hoping the committee would select us despite the VT loss. And then the bombs started landing 😂
Trent Dilfer has a very expensive and prestigious QB camp for high schoolers. Going to his camp pretty much guarantees you a P5 offer and a lot of playing time. NFL scouts consult him for his opinion on guys that attended his camp. It's why players like Tom Savage and Jeff Driskel have hung around in college and the NFL so long despite not showing much of value on the field. It's an ego stroke and a financial incentive for him to say that quarterbacks need grooming and high profile reps in order to get a shot in the NFL and talent alone can't get you there.
AJ Feely deserves a mention. Backed up Joey Harrington at Oregon for most of his career. Ended up having at least some success in the NFL. Got the Eagles a 2nd rd pick for him.
I remember Jason White because I'm a huge Miami Hurricanes fan and they dominated at the time he won his Heisman. That same season Sean Taylor had 10 INT's, 2 multi-INT games and returned 3 of them for TD's and got exactly 0 votes for the Heisman. I legit couldn't believe it. The best defender I'd ever seen in my life up to that point, he was even better than Ed Reed, and he got 0 votes. I never took that award seriously again.
I need more of that World League footage. I'm getting World of Sport vibes from it, which was one of our sports magazine type shows over here. You had BBC with Grandstand and ITV with World of Sport, one was prestigious and seen as serious, WoS was seen as the red head stepkid
Another player that's good to mention is Jay Schroeder. He only played one season of college ball at UCLA and only started 1 game. He then decided to leave college to play minor league baseball. He was selected in the 3rd round, 83rd pick overall by Washington in the 1984 draft, and went on to have a fairly good career.
He did have a decent career, but if you ask Washington what they remember of him, they'd say he was the guy between Theismann and Doug Williams who was traded for Jim Lachey, one of the best LTs of his era.
I met Brad Johnson when I was going into my sophomore year, the summer before he went to Florida State, at a basketball camp in Grayson Kentucky. He was Mr Basketball in North Carolina that year. Recruited in Track and Field too. Dude was a 6’8” tree that could run.
AJ Feeley? He played during his Sophomore year at Oregon before getting injured and replaced by Harrington for the remainder of his time in Eugene. He was still drafted, and QBed the Eagles into the playoffs after injuries to McNabb and Detmer. I played against him in HS, and thought he washed out at Oregon. I was shocked when he came off the bench for Philly. Now, he lives just a couple blocks from me.
He was class of 2000. Leinert was 2001. Cassell was arguably a higher rated recruit out of Northridge than Leinert from Mater Dei. At the time everyone thought he was going to start. He never got to - it wasn’t that he was bad. He hoped he would work into the starting position after Carson Palmer’s senior season.
An interesting note is that almost every USB QB with more than 2 starts since 1982 has been on an NFL roster… from Sean Salisbury through Sam Darnold. Other recent USC starters before Caleb Williams have NFL potential and have transferred (JT Daniels, Kedon Slovis). USC is QB U, there’s no debate. Sean Salisbury Rodney Pete Todd Marinovich Rob Johnson Brad Otton Kyle Wachholtz Carson Palmer Matt Leinert John David Booty Mark Sanchez Matt Barkley Cody Kessler Sam Darnold …exceptions were Reggie Perry from the terrible 3-8 team in ‘91 and Mike Van Raaphorst in ‘99.
I was at FSU when Johnson was benched and at the time everyone knew that he was going to be an NFL QB once he left school and it was frequently mentioned on the broadcast of the game. Casey Weldon just had more mobility in the pocket and was what the FSU twam needed at that time to win. But nobody really thought he would start in yhe NFL. With Johnson we knew he would at some point. He mighy not in todays game but back in the 90's he just had the tools teams wanted in a QB.
Only The Sith Lord would ever draft somebody like Matt Cassell. There is just genuinely *absolutely nothing* about football that gets past Darth Belichick. (And he's mostly known for his defensive schemes, so it's amazing how well he can read quarterback potential as well.) Side note: Brad Johnson is definitely the best quarterback whom I keep forgetting exists. I had no idea he lasted 17 years in the NFL, I just knew he was the field general for that Superbowl team.
The only thing I remember about Matt Cassell at USC was him recovering an onside kick. Surprisingly, he had a better pro career than Matt Leinart, who he played behind there.
I’m think Matt Leonard would have been good if he wasn’t for Cardinals
@@Gulag00 Yet Kurt Warner went there and revitalized his career
@@riquetc0060 - Warner taking the starting job in AZ really shook Lienart's confidence. He never recovered from it.
@@stephenh5944 Why do you think Warner took the starting job in the first place? Leinart was never a good NFL quarterback.
That's better than me, my alcohol & drug addled mind thought Jimmy G did those things, forgot Cassel existed
What’s crazy about Cassell is he was way better in the NFL than Leinart ever was
For real, even Cassel's 2008 season alone was light years better than Leinart's whole friggin career
@@IkeWarchol407Cassel was allowed to develop on one of the greatest teams of all time, so he didn't have to go out and ball, he could just be a game manager and have some success. Leinart went to a dumpster fire in Arizona. Same deal with David Carr. Whoever went to that 2002 Texans squad was going to get reduced to a greasy splotch on the turf.
That's not crazy. That was true all along. Leinart was nothing more than a glorified winebag.
Unfortunately, a lot of players peak in college and then fall off in the pros. Leinart being a prime example of that
why are we shitting on Matt Leinart though what did he do
Cassel is a classy guy. His pick as Brady's backup made perfect sense, he obviously had no ego issues after backing up 4 years in college.
Our sisters were best friends in high school. I didn’t really know him bc I had already left for college, but he was always a respectful stand up guy by all accounts
But he did have a healthy enough ego to spurn Josh McDaniels and forge his own legacy as the Chiefs starter. He gave them a tropical paradise island of a victory season in probably one of the NFL's historically most desolate oceans of losing football. I think Chiefs fans will always love him for that--but what do I know, I'm just a Broncos fan who just watched last season...🤣😂😢😭
@@Montag87 I'm a longtime Chiefs fan, we had really high hopes for him when he came riding in on his magnificent white stallion. He didn't live up to those hopes, yet he never did anything to make us dislike him. He's not as loved in KC as Trent Green still is, but he's a standup guy
@@randy7928 Cassel, or Cassuck, as many Chiefs fans called him, was not fond of his time in KC. He's been interviewed saying the Pats had the best fans and were his favorite place he ever played. Remember Eric Winston and his gladiator speech when Cassel was injured and finally benched? I remember the fans turning on him not only because he was not very good but because Scott Pioli, the GM at the time who came from the Patriots, REFUSED to let Cassel be benched. These were some of the worst years as Chiefs fans.
Yeah. Backup QB and starting QB are different positions with different responsibilities during the week and gameday. The Patriots didn't draft him to play. They probably figured that if Brady was out, they're screwed anyway. They drafted him for the same reason they re-signed Brian Hoyer so many times.
Matt Cassel is the most Mike Ditka-esque draft pick to not be drafted by Mike Ditka.
Ditka would totally just show up to the USC pro day because it’s the best college football program at the time, chewing on a cigar, see Cassell throw a bomb, and insist to his entire front office that they draft him that year. Probably would trade up for him.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brad Johnson will always be worth remembering because he was the first QB to throw a touchdown to himself and he won a Super Bowl with the ‘02 Bucs
I remember him cause he almost played for 20 damn years.
He threw a beautiful deep ball
At 11:03 , small correction:Tom Brady tore his ACL not in the preseason, but in week 1 vs the chiefs when Bernard pollard of all people lunged at his leg trying to make a tackle
Came here to say this. This might sound terrible, but I was watching the week 1 games at a bar in Pittsburgh that year, and there were a few people who audibly cheered when that highlight played on the screens. I think we all knew the Steelers were only gonna win a Super Bowl if they got to avoid Tom Brady.
@@phreakzilla8514 Damn Yinzers. ;D
It’s really crazy how Cassel ended up playing at all. Brady didn’t play that preseason at all due to a foot injury. Cassel was so horrible in the preseason that Belichick was trying to bring in veteran competition with Chris Redman. And when Pollard hit Brady in week 1, Pollard blitzed through Sammy Morris, who was only playing because Kevin Faulk had a 1 game suspension for bringing weed to a Lil Wayne concert in the summer. And even after all of that, Belichick was going to sign either Chris Simms or Tim Rattay to be the starter for the year before he changed his mind and went with Cassel
Bernard Pollard AKA *The Patriot Killer*
@dnasty312 don't remind me plz. He not only ended bradys season, but also ended Wes welkers the following year, forced gronk to have an ankle injury(limiting him in sb 46) and had Steven ridley fumble and Injured in the 2012 afc Championship
Kurt Warner only played 12 games total for UNI, went undrafted, and still ended up being one of the best QBs of the time.
I mean, he had experience in Arena and NFL Europe before he permanently joined the Rams
@@1wayroad935yeah but he was also bagging groceries at the time he got called up
One of the best QBs of all time is an insane thing to say 🤣🤣🤣he’s not even like a top ten quarterback of his era
@@Supermoneygang12 By far one of the best QBs of his era. More SB appearances than literally any other 2000s QB I believe with 3? Literally every season he played a full 16 games he made the SB. Let’s also not forget the only player until literally THIS PAST season to have won MVP and SBMVP in the same season. Let’s not forget one of the best ALL TIME playoff QBs. Easily a top five statistical playoff QB.
@@Supermoneygang12 oh wait mb, he was second most SB appearances from 1999-2010 with 3, only behind Tom Brady who was on the Patriots, a team fined and punished several times within the 2000s for cheating to get to said SB games. Stfu.
Cardale Jones was literally thought to be a top 10 pick after 3 games. Not even in next year’s draft class, in THAT draft class. I’m pretty sure he was eligible to leave after those 3 games, and they would have been the 3 most important games any college player has ever played according to the rise or fall in draft stock
People nowadays know that you have to cash in this kind of hype
@@jorgeabud1133Truth. Even if cardale did bad in workouts, there was no chance he would have fallen to the 4th round the way he did after coming back.
I'm an Ohio State fan and I wanted him to go for the draft instead of come back to college. I'm always on the side of whatever is best for the player, and I did not think there was any real chance he was actually that good so going for the inflated contract was his best option.
@@jorgeabud1133yup if that scenario happens today that kid either transfers or enters the draft
Jamarcus Russell...that LSU Bowl Game is why he got drafted 1st Overall. Al Davis and Raiders Fans fell in love. I watched it happen in Real Time on the Myspace Raiders Group. It was hilarious, and only got funnier as time went on.
An important thing to note about Jason White as to why he wasn't drafted, he tore both of his ACLs in consecutive seasons and when he came back, the Sooners had to run every play in shotgun formation because Jason couldn't take snaps under center and he also couldn't scramble. Despite this, he became an extremely accomplished college QB after his ACL injuries. He had an amazing football journey. Despite winning the Heisman, NFL teams didn't want to draft him cuz he lacked mobility and had injury concerns. He was the last heisman winner to not play in the NFL (not counting Caleb Williams obviously).
he was one of 3 Heisman winners from 1993-2003 to not play a snap in the NFL along with Eric Crouch and Charlie Ward.
Imagine how dangerous oklahoma would have been those years if he could run like he did before the knee injuries.
White's mobility was superb before the injuries
Same with kellen moore, no injuries but the dude was very immobile
and he beat out Larry Fitzgerald for the heisman, who became one of the best
@@mtj027 He was unbelievable until the injuries slowed him down and we saw what happened in the Big 12 Championship Game
Oklahoma may have won it all that year if they replaced him with Paul Thompson before the Big 12 Title Game. White was clearly handicapped in his last two games
Matt's story really shows how taking things in stride really pays in the long run.
11:00 correction: Tom Brady tore his ACL in week 1 against the Chiefs after a low hit by Bernard Pollard. Matt Cassel came in and beat us.
I have always been fascinated by how Cassell became an NFL quarterback without starting in College. This is the first well explained video I have watched, love your work!
It makes you wonder how many times the NFL has gotten it wrong and how many potential HOF players never got a chance
Cassel made a pro bowl in 2010, went to the playoffs a couple times, made TONS of money…the dude played 14-seasons in the league. He may very well be the most successful NFL QB who never started a single game in college and had below average numbers when he did play.
Yes, Simms was a two-time Super Bowl champion, BUT don't forget that Jeff Hostetler saved the day and lead the Giants to the second one when Simms got hurt towards the end of the season. (Still a great career for Phil, though.)
And I have a lot of respect for Matt Cassel. His successful 2008 season filling in looked like it was strictly the result of the players and coaches around him, but his 2010 with the Chiefs was arguably better (if we ignore the awful playoff loss, at least).
I’m still more impressed by Kurt Warner and Brad Johnson ‘s success than any other QB in my lifetimes
Warren Moon ring a bell either? Dude was a hall of famer in two football leagues.
@@coldcatproductions7737 Love Moon also. Had a hell of a spiral
For every Johnson or Cassel there are countless QBs who I bet would have had similar NFL careers but were never given the opportunity
We were awful damn close to no Tom Brady either. If Bledsoe doesn’t get injured he probably holds a clipboard a few more years and is selling cars in Michigan now.
@@MrRyan-wu4jxnot exactly. Brady outplayed Bledsoe in that preseason, but BB was concerned with a lack of experience. He would eventually become a stsrter. Bledsoe wasn't BB's kind of guy.
@@sikecar534 preseason doesn’t mean anything, even back then the idea was not to get your starters hurt. Bledsoe would take a few reps with NFL players on the field then Brady came in with and against guys just trying to make a roster. If Bledsoe finishes that playoff run with a Super Bowl ring there was nothing Brady would’ve been able to do take the job from him in the time left on his rookie contract in New England, and he may not have found a job elsewhere after that.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx go and watch what BB says on Brady's 6 on that matter.
Timmy Chang was a beast
Well shoot, if these guys can do it, why can’t I? Great video KTO
Okay, you definitely have the best outtro music on RUclips. Also, I think a really fun sequel to this would be how Josh McDaniels was trying to trade Jay Cutler so he could get The Cassassin, and then it would be hilarious to show Cassell defeating the Broncos during his Chiefs tenure. I really don't know why Cassell didn't reunite with Josh McDaniels, but based on his background you would think that would be a highly probable path to success that has a ton of precedent. Instead, he took a big risk and still found NFL success, even if it was short-lived. Gotta respect the guy's grit and self-confidence.
11:00 Brady was injured in the very first game of the season.
I remember…I had him in fantasy that year.
I was curling 35 and saw the notification pop up and dropped my dumbells and clicked the notification b4 it went away
As a Chiefs fan I still respect and like Cassel. Not everything in KC was his fault and we had a mostly terrible roster along with coaching staff. He had a different offensive coordinator each of the four seasons he was with the Chiefs and when he had Charlie Weis as his coordinator in 2010 he went 10-6. He was also his coordinator with the Patriots in 2008 when he went 11-5. Todd Haley pretty much forced Charlie Weis out, and then got fired himself the following season. Edited to mention that Tom Brady didn't suffer his knee injury in preseason, he injured it in the first game of the season against my Chiefs and then Cassel came out and torched us. We would then trade for him in the off-season.
The Chiefs would have been much better off using the Cassel money to upgrade the offensive line for Thigpen and Jamaal. Everybody knew it was insane to pay him $16 million per year.
Only thing I need to disagree with is Chiefs "overpayed" for him? A starting level QB for a 2nd round pick? And throw in Mike Vrabel as a sweetener
Jason White's knees must have been wrecked to have garnered so little interest from the NFL.
He physically could not run at all even in college. If no one got open he had to throw it away or eat a sack. Kind of a sad story.
dude, i remember as a kid i stayed up all night watching your videos as soon as i found your channel! love your stuff man, keep it up!
I’m pretty sure Brady tore his ACL in the opening week of the regular season, not in the pre season
Brad Johnson is a great story. The Redskins were one bad snap away from the NFC Championship when Dan Snyder blew up his roster and got rid of a future Super Bowl winning QB
You kind of buried the lede on Matt Cassel... 10-5 as a starter is a lot better than "decent" and also the Patriots went 11-5 that year (I guess Brady started one of those games I forgot about) and they somehow MISSED THE PLAYOFFS. Teams going 11-5 and missing the playoffs could be a video by itself. But yea, big undersell on how good Cassel played and how good that Patriots team was that year.
Decent, cause the same team (no important changes on the roster) went 16-0 the year before with Brady throwing 50 TD passes. So loosing 5 more games while throwing half as much TD is decent at best.
@@Smido83 Brady's 50 TD season was sandwiched by 2 25ish TD seasons.
@@cod-the-creatori mean BraDy didnt really have a true number one receiver until Moss got there and he got 50 tds. I highly doubt he would’ve had 25 tds in 2008 if he didn’t get hurt, he would’ve probably got high 30s low 40s. 2009 he was coming off an injury and that team wasn’t the same team anymore, 2007 and 2008 Patriots were the exact same team with an easier schedule than 2007
@@azazelvalentine1762 So if someone doesn't throw 40 TD's on their way to an 11-5 season, they're merely "decent"? You're comparing this dude to the greatest of all time, not only the greatest of all time but the best season the greatest of all time ever had.
@@cod-the-creator who said anything about having to throw 40 tds? You mentioned Brady throwing 25 tds in 2009 as to try to make Cassel’s season seem more impressive,my whole comment was about Brady would’ve threw for more than that if he didn’t get hurt. I also didn’t say anything about Cassel, I was talking about how the patriots performed as a whole. But let’s be honest 3693 yards 21 tds 11 ints 63.4 completion percentage and a passer rating of 89.4 is literally decent😂 that’s not a good season and you know it’s not. Those numbers are similar to Brady first few years, and most people considered Brady mediocre his first couple of years. Cassel wasn’t horrible, he was mediocre and was a huge downgrade from the season before with the same exact team and easier schedule and he also got sacked more than twice as much as Brady
Ive always thought how goofy Cassell's path was. Backing up TWO Heisman trophy winners only to get drafted to back up Brady lol like wtf. Like failing upward. He went 11-6 in the pros one year tho.
Love your video KTO and keep up the great work you do
Matt Cassell was definitely the kid in high school who never studied but got top marks.
I’m thinking it’s the other way around. He studied constantly but no one noticed his perfect record until they needed it.
11:00 Tom Brady tore his ACL in the first quarter of week 1, not in the preseason.
Brady tore his ACL in week 1 of 2008 by the way.
Thank you for saying that. I was thinking the same thing.
Brad Johnson is definitely a Hall of Very Good type guy
As a FSU and Bucs fan I was waiting to see Brad Johnson
God I love seeing when you upload , you’re literally one of if not my favorite RUclipsr
Hey KTO, i have an idea. You should make a video about old rookie quarterbacks(aged 25 or over) and see how they performed in the league.
Do NFL QBs that weren't good in college.
I waited the whole video to hear about what happened to Timmy Chang and Jason White after being so successful in college. Looking them up after the video I can understand why that wasn't included, a bummer on both accounts.
You should’ve mentioned tim Boyle lol
11:02 it was week 1 vs Kansas City not the preseason
11:01 I believe he actually tore his ACL week one regular season
Oh I love this topic, I already anticipate this episode being good. It's one thing to go from top football/track/basketball etc. star and just be cruising into the NFL before hitting that wall of "everyones a talent here. You can't just skate." But to be someone who had to work at it just to make it to the league because your college for better or worse never chooses you is always an appealing topic. I wonder if with the transfer portal this type of topic will get more bizzare to younger viewers and less likely to happen, or will it happen more to the loyalist student athletes?
I don't think this will ever happen again. These days you would be crazy to stay as a backup when you can transfer to a different school to get a starting position.
Let’s goo… Anytime I see KTO, I click instantly
This man is the king of football content and when he says Coallege it warms my heart.
Tom didn't tear his ACL in the preseason, it was week 1 against the Chiefs.
Brady didn't tear his ACL in the preseason. It was Week 1 vs Chiefs, notorious Bernard Pollard hit em low
cassel's and johnson's stories are movie worthy imo.
The Colts will have to be pretty desperate to have Anthony Richardson at starting quarterback. He has a cannon and is insanely athletic, but he gets shaken out of the pocket if someone sneezes near him and never seemed to learn how to read defenses all that well. He'd throw the ball like a rocket something just to no one at all. It seems like he has a lot of potential to develop, but after watching him disappoint at Florida, I'm not too confident he'll do anything any time soon.
Omg FINALLY someone else sees it too. Richardson is about as sure of a bust as there is. Dude hasn't performed well at any level. He's athletic, seems like a nice kid, but he sucks at playing football. My heart sunk when we drafted him.
Yeah, hopefully he’ll be one of those guys who blossoms when they hit the pros. I’m not a Colts fan, but he seems like a good guy, so I can’t help but pull for him.
I don't know when the NFL decided that running fast and having an incredibly strong arm mattered more than accuracy and football IQ. He probably will have some highlight plays based on his athleticism, but how many times do you throw the balls 60 yards down field? They're only hope is to do what Baltimore did and change their entire offense to suit him but even then he's got to be able to make some decisions that he has proven so far unable to. Back in high school we had some players who were faster than our quarterback and could throw the ball further downfield, but they did not make good quarterbacks. They were more of a used as a gimmick every now and then but not an every down type of player. For all of the hype around Lamar Jackson, he has won exactly one playoff game with that system. I get that this guy is a athletic freak, but I'm just glad it's not my team that drafted him. Don't wish him any ill will and I hope he succeeds but until he proves it I will doubt that that style works until someone can win the super Bowl with it.
Can you please talk about Rakeem Cato?
Cassel could’ve been a great college qb
I’m a Buckeye fan and Cardale Jones is my favorite buckeye because of those 3 games. Beat Wis 59-0, beat Bama 42-35, then Oregon 42-20
*59-0* is like a core memory for me. 🥰
@@SamBrickellSame. I was just a teen, but I still remember the stress of going into that day hoping the committee would select us despite the VT loss. And then the bombs started landing 😂
Even though it was Ezekial Elliott who beat those teams.
Trent Dilfer has a very expensive and prestigious QB camp for high schoolers. Going to his camp pretty much guarantees you a P5 offer and a lot of playing time. NFL scouts consult him for his opinion on guys that attended his camp. It's why players like Tom Savage and Jeff Driskel have hung around in college and the NFL so long despite not showing much of value on the field. It's an ego stroke and a financial incentive for him to say that quarterbacks need grooming and high profile reps in order to get a shot in the NFL and talent alone can't get you there.
Brady actually tore his ACL against the chiefs on opening day of the regular season actually.
Nowadays Matt woulda transfered 3 times
I hope I’m wrong but Anthony Richardson reminds me so much of Akili Smith.
Love your nfl vids. Can we get some more college content like the old days
AJ Feely deserves a mention. Backed up Joey Harrington at Oregon for most of his career. Ended up having at least some success in the NFL. Got the Eagles a 2nd rd pick for him.
Clay Matthews was a backup and got drafted in the first round
Lukas Van Ness was a first rounder this year and he didn't start any games
Tom Brady didn't tear his ACL in the preseason in 08, he tore it in the first quarter of week 1
Cassel looking at the cam after dropping his hat at 11:54 hilarious
I remember Jason White because I'm a huge Miami Hurricanes fan and they dominated at the time he won his Heisman. That same season Sean Taylor had 10 INT's, 2 multi-INT games and returned 3 of them for TD's and got exactly 0 votes for the Heisman. I legit couldn't believe it. The best defender I'd ever seen in my life up to that point, he was even better than Ed Reed, and he got 0 votes. I never took that award seriously again.
Bro I love when KTO uploads click as soon as I get the notification
pretty sure richardson only started 12 games in college since he didnt play in the bowl game
Love you tko. The drop at the end is always savage
More videos like this on other positions!
0:35 he sure did start a game at USC my friend. Vs Cal. At H back haha this was the year before Palmer’s heisman.
I need more of that World League footage. I'm getting World of Sport vibes from it, which was one of our sports magazine type shows over here. You had BBC with Grandstand and ITV with World of Sport, one was prestigious and seen as serious, WoS was seen as the red head stepkid
Wow I didn’t know that about cassel. Crazy he could be a household name and be a 7th round pick with no experience
Brady didn't get hurt in the preseason - it was in the week 1 game against the Chiefs.
Another player that's good to mention is Jay Schroeder. He only played one season of college ball at UCLA and only started 1 game. He then decided to leave college to play minor league baseball. He was selected in the 3rd round, 83rd pick overall by Washington in the 1984 draft, and went on to have a fairly good career.
He did have a decent career, but if you ask Washington what they remember of him, they'd say he was the guy between Theismann and Doug Williams who was traded for Jim Lachey, one of the best LTs of his era.
Hell yeahhh a KTO video before the preseason games tonight!!
When KTO uploads I immediately click on it, just love sports history videos
I met Brad Johnson when I was going into my sophomore year, the summer before he went to Florida State, at a basketball camp in Grayson Kentucky. He was Mr Basketball in North Carolina that year. Recruited in Track and Field too. Dude was a 6’8” tree that could run.
Great vid. Brady tore his ACL in week 1 of 2008 against the Chiefs.
maybe do best 3rd string college rbs or juco players
We need the “nfl 10 years ago” video
Great idea for a video. Nice Job
Loved Cassel in his last year in Detroit. Cool dude
Funny thing; Matt Cassell did start a game at USC, as a tight end.
No shit! I never knew that... 😯
Matt Cassel had a much more successful career than Leinart who started over him in college
I have a Matt Cassel #7 Chiefs jersey, and people used to clown me for it. Some days I wear the 7, some days I wear the 15. FeelsGood
AJ Feeley? He played during his Sophomore year at Oregon before getting injured and replaced by Harrington for the remainder of his time in Eugene. He was still drafted, and QBed the Eagles into the playoffs after injuries to McNabb and Detmer. I played against him in HS, and thought he washed out at Oregon. I was shocked when he came off the bench for Philly. Now, he lives just a couple blocks from me.
I fell for the cardale Jones hype those last 3 games he was balling
Cassel should of had bubby bristers attitude as a backup "I don't mop up for NOBODY" LOL
Cassel could’ve been a star at another Pac school but instead chose to sit on the bench at USC. What a joke.
He was class of 2000. Leinert was 2001. Cassell was arguably a higher rated recruit out of Northridge than Leinert from Mater Dei. At the time everyone thought he was going to start. He never got to - it wasn’t that he was bad. He hoped he would work into the starting position after Carson Palmer’s senior season.
An interesting note is that almost every USB QB with more than 2 starts since 1982 has been on an NFL roster… from Sean Salisbury through Sam Darnold. Other recent USC starters before Caleb Williams have NFL potential and have transferred (JT Daniels, Kedon Slovis). USC is QB U, there’s no debate.
Sean Salisbury
Rodney Pete
Todd Marinovich
Rob Johnson
Brad Otton
Kyle Wachholtz
Carson Palmer
Matt Leinert
John David Booty
Mark Sanchez
Matt Barkley
Cody Kessler
Sam Darnold
…exceptions were Reggie Perry from the terrible 3-8 team in ‘91 and Mike Van Raaphorst in ‘99.
Heavy.
Ps That 2003 Tampa Bay team was Stellar
Tom Brady tore his ACL in Week 1, not the preseason
Thank u smmfh
11:50 that's a hilarious clip😂 he dropped his hat and then directly looked at the camera he somehow knew was pointed directly at him
I was at FSU when Johnson was benched and at the time everyone knew that he was going to be an NFL QB once he left school and it was frequently mentioned on the broadcast of the game. Casey Weldon just had more mobility in the pocket and was what the FSU twam needed at that time to win. But nobody really thought he would start in yhe NFL. With Johnson we knew he would at some point. He mighy not in todays game but back in the 90's he just had the tools teams wanted in a QB.
When your draft capital is high NEVER return to college, make yourself eligible for the draft
Does that include position changes? I’m pretty sure tannehil didn’t do much at QB in college
Only The Sith Lord would ever draft somebody like Matt Cassell. There is just genuinely *absolutely nothing* about football that gets past Darth Belichick. (And he's mostly known for his defensive schemes, so it's amazing how well he can read quarterback potential as well.)
Side note: Brad Johnson is definitely the best quarterback whom I keep forgetting exists. I had no idea he lasted 17 years in the NFL, I just knew he was the field general for that Superbowl team.
Brady got hurt in the first game of the regular season not the preseason. Great video tho. Interesting topic
Love the feel good videos especially when you involve the sad sides it’s a special sport and they’re lucky they made it as far as they did
Damn Cassell’s 2008 season is even more impressive considering he hadn’t gotten real snaps in a game in 6-7 years across two levels
i have a memory of cassel starting 1 game at USC as a TE/H-back, Carroll wanted him to play TE one year
The nfl scouts when they seen bro trucking Alabama defenders 😂🤣
Just started quarantine bc of Covid and KTO decides to save my shitty day. Goat Football youtuber!
Brady actually got hurt week 1 against the chiefs,not in the preseason. But otherwise great video as always!