“You won’t get tutorial style training” Me whose been really bad at following art tutorials my whole life: FINALLY YES NO MORE THIRD GRADE ART CLASS IM FREE
Ive never been more happy to be at the “art school“ that I’m at now. We’re going to have a class dedicated to learn how to survive when we’re out of school, regarding free lance stuff. We always have a step to step tutorials on how to do things and we’re thoroughly tough how to use our software, including toon boom harmony. It’s a cégep so it’s really cheap and we have young, industry practicing teacher. I’m really living the dream! (I got to cégep du vieux Montréal, in animation, for the interested. Sadly it’s only in French.)
Oh gosh… my painting teachers definitely went over the safety parts of oil paint. It was just a regular school though not an art school. It’s Alarming that art schools don’t teach that??
My art school had a lesson on materials safety at the start of every course, with an extra lesson when we started using oils. Not getting taught basic safety and material use was definitely a LavenderTown's school specific thing.
Both schools I've been to in the US, one being a private art college and the other being an art program at a private university, were both really really great at teaching students materials safety and had MSDS books in every single room with every item stored in that room listed inside. I know not every school is like mine, but I would definitely say it's more common than not that they WILL teach you safety.
Im in an art specific highschool in the painting course and we got NO safety lessons on oil paint. I had to teach all my classmates proper storage methods and care bcs our teacher was just like "ok start painting this kbye". We collectively hate her.
My art school in the US didn’t teach us safety things either but it also really depends on your professor. Every professor priorities things differently, so what kinda sucks is that there is no standard way of teaching in college. You just have to hope that you have a good professor that cares about certain things
i ditched my degree in linguistics to pursue art school, im excited and nervous but it’s my life long dream!! i’m applying in the fall, so this came at the perfect time ^.^
Same, my mom wants me to go to a "fancy art school" but I don't know if she understands student debt plus this video s about art school make me want to go to my community College instead. 😅
@@deaddoll2304 honestly try to tell her ab all these things art school doesn't teach, shes probably under the impression that art school is more "how to art tutorials" than it is
I've had two classes in art school so far where the professor explained step by step what to do, but that class was also beginning etching, so we were all expected to be brand new to it. The other was a project where we made artist books, and we all had to learn how to bind books. Otherwise it's been pretty much 'figure it out yourself, you know how to draw/paint/whatever'.
My freshman year was pretty much step-by-step too; not exactly with each piece, but teaching/building on prior techniques My first course was color and design in which he just shows a bunch of examples of different theories such as shadows, abstractions, or line work. He gave tests and we had to practice color matching to small pictures in magazines. In my painting 1 class this past spring semester, he first just assigned basic paint from life in black and white, then introduced painting using two opposing temperatures (later glazing and dry brushing on top of it), and then he basically gave us new techniques to use but let us choose the content of the piece.
The more Haley talks about art school, the more she makes it sound like just actual hell. I can't IMAGINE paying thousands of dollars on tuition to fight through even more panic and abelism in the school system after the hell that was high school just to be told "look it up", like I think I would actually just immediately die. I'm impressed _anyone_ can say, "art school was invaluable to me" and actually mean it, because the same people who say that always make it sound _so agonizing_ when they actually describe what it was like.
As someone who is currently taking a 2 year art program for animation and video games I can say for certain that it is certainly hell and i’ve considering giving up on it more than once. Sure I definitely have a better idea on what I want to do as an artist but holy crap it was so painful to go through that first year.
y'all are just picking the wrong schools because I'm going to art school and my experience is the complete opposite. Also my tuition is only like $5.000 per year for people at the dorm and less for those who doesn't live at school but that's because I'm not american
@@nic0a206 “just picking the wrong schools” when a lot of ppl talking about their bad experiences with school debt are from america (and american education is also Shit) your experience sounds amazing, and i’d kill to be able to have an experience like that, but u have to realize that some people just aren’t that lucky. plus, the US raises prices if u go out of ur state for uni, even moreso if ur out of the country.
@@gh05tb0yzexact reason why if I ever get the chance to go to art school, I’m moving to Canada because I’ve heard that the prices are less aggressive there, and also the healthcare doesn’t cost 4 legs and 3 eyes for an doctors appointment
Freelancer in the US here. Just FYI: You CAN do your taxes only once a year if you want, but you have to be prepared to have it be more complicated and to pay a much bigger chunk of $$$ all at once. Many find it easier to do quarterly because it essentially segments the task into more easily-digestable chunks, especially when it comes to paying. But I personally hate hate HATE doing taxes and I'd rather just stress out about it only once a year than four times that. But I also make have to make sure I have the money on hand to cover the payment when it's due.
@@rogueObscura I’m pretty sure the IRS actually has a tax calculator that makes it easier to do taxes you can scrounge around reddit lifehack post for it
I remember when I was in middle school & really wanted to become a professional full-time visual artist. I wanted to go to art university & everything, but overtime, while attending a visual arts high school looking through colleges, I found out that it’s not for me. Art itself is definitely for me but the universities are not. It sucks the creativity out.
Ive completely ditched the idea of going to art school. Everyone I know says it sucks and majority of art school students are busy crying online about how shit art school is or how stressful art GCSE is. I just want to find a straight answer about how art school and gcse is 🙍🏽♂️🙁
As a previous art gcse student who had so much trouble deciding what gcse's I wanted to do, art gcse was the one of the best decisions I've made. My experience is not in any way universal, but I love art and am so happy I took it. And while it probably helps that I go to a school with good art facilities and teachers, I just wanted to provide a viewpoint outside of what you seem to have found. The best advice I can give is if you really want to take art, don't worry too much about what everyone else says. Any extra work (and there is some) is much easier to do if you're passionate about your subject.
art gcse student here, if you keep up with your coursework and don't expect it to be any easier/ take less time than any of your other subjects it's managable
A close friend of mine is a full-time freelance artist. He went to law school but had to drop out due to the stress and anxiety. The funny thing is he learned everything from youtube and skillshare and now he's a full-blown pro. He used to do covers for comic books and now he mostly makes thumbnails for RUclipsrs.
Tip for my fellow high schoolers planning on art school: Think about what art field you're going into. Take that art elective if possible. And take even more. I've been drawing for four years and still took drawing and printmaking I, going into II next year. Even if it seems basic it helps you improve so much. Take as many art electives as you can before graduating!! Bonus: If you want to go into something very specific, look internationally as well. For example, some art schools in Asia have Manga Courses and degrees, so you won't have to settle for character design or something like that. Your options are open, and international students usually have more scholarship opportunities
This ^^^ I made the mistake of picking a degree program more for the sake of not realizing how much out of my element I was going to be rather than taking the time to really sit down and figure out what was going to make me happy and feel fulfilled as an artist. That and I didn’t want to take another drawing class with this insane drawing professor I had at the time and would’ve had to take for awhile for my undergrad drawing/design classes. It would’ve helped me in the long run and maybe not drop out for the reasons I did
I went to graphic design because it was the closest to what I wanted. We learned both traditional and digital art there. We also learned graphic design as well. There were no manga courses or animation courses there but we've learned 3D modeling and photography as well.
Clubs also! I'm going to college for animation (not an art school) and while I was looking at the clubs there, I saw an animation club. There are clubs for everything so you're bound to find something that will help you for what you want, and if there isn't, you can make your own.
Thank you lol. She mentioned that a lot of teachers are against tattoo artists and that very well might be what I end up doing. If I end up going to art school, it will be to further my drawing skills to become a tattoo artist before I get an apprenticeship.
Yes~ about older teachers stuck in their outdated ways! When I went to a community college for an art degree, I took a comic class, and the teacher was dead set on the idea that the only viable comic was newpaper gag strips, and that art style is the only way to succeed as a comic artist. He told me many times that my art style "is too cute and too smooth. if you want to be a comic artist, draw like they do in the Oregonian comics" so I stopped putting in effort, drew like they do in gag comics, and then he didn't like how fast I was finishing the assignments. I ended that class with a solid C lmao and now I'm making webcomics in hopes of turning it into a career path.
@Romans 12:21 For some reason Webtoon won't let me upload. Doesn't like my file sizes or page dimentions I guess, but I upload on Tapas! My comic is called "Children of Sombra" by Kirin Comics :)
2nd year art student here: it all depends on the school. Where I go we had basic law lectures about everything that might be useful for artists, classes on software (photoshop, illustrator, after effects, animate, indesign, toonboom for those who specialise in animation, etc; all software provided by school), most teachers know a lot about new things in the industry, but its a school heavily focused on new media arts and computer science
AI, Phoenix grad here. It had law, post grad/freelance survival type lessons and what else you said as well. So I agree I think it just depends on the school
Taxes! Yes! I havent gone to art school, but the vocational school I did go to did teach us, a full class that was part of the Must Take classes, a whole lot about pricing and taxes AND how to start a business on your own from ground up. I spent 2 months straight, 2-8 hours a day, "filing taxes" and doing counting and looking at professional e-mails and providers and etc on how to run this Fictional Horse Stable. That, if I had the startup money, by the end of that course I should have in theory been able to kick up and running after "sending" all the files I need to offical law&stuff people. I do not have a horse stable, but the experience was incredibly valuable to me, and I know a heck of a ton more about what to do now that before if I were to start a business of ANY kind. And that kind of course should absolutely be available to any and all educational institutions that supposedly send you to the real world once you're out!
@@numberVIII Nah I dont mind. Im finnish and studied in Finland. So nordic europe. The school I went to has now shut down the unit I was in due to low attendance, but it was part of the OSAO school system (a collection of units across and nearby the district of Oulu for different areas vocational studies.)
I have an _International Business_ degree from Mexico and, I kid you not, *THEY NEVER TAUGHT US HOW TO ACTUALLY OPEN A BUSINESS IN REAL LIFE!!!* It was all theory bullshit on managing large teams and how to plan out supply routes, as if we'd be getting hired right out of school into a managerial position for a large international company. Those fuckers never even taught us how to pay our own taxes or how to ask for loans! The goddamn education system here is a scam, and it doesn't sound much better in the USA. Had to work in customer service at a call center for a while to pay my bills! I'm so incredibly pissed that I wasted those 5 years of my life...
@@karo-kun2578 Oh my god of course it's Finland!!! I heard so many good things about the educational system there and am jealous of anyone who can study there😔 i have this unrealistic dream of wanting to go to a Finnish college but like i said, it's pretty unrealistic lmao
It's mostly high level skill practice, like refining your skills rather than learning them from scratch. Most of it focused on quickly generating ideas, refining your usage of color and light, and getting good at being able to critique your own work.
Honestly it depends on the art teacher itself and his or her style of teaching students. Some show you everything step by step others barely explain anything and correct you if you're lucky.
depends on the school, course, teachers, etc. In the school i just got into, they dont teach you ''how to draw''. If you want to get critique on your technique they def will give you some, but my course is extremely focused on storytelling through all aspects of your art. Also! Connections. You'll see other great students, teachers, etc. You can build a great relationship with other artists which can help you out when youre stuck later, or even land you a few jobs. In art schools in the netherlands its usual that about 80% of graduated students immediatly get employed, so thats also something.
@@l.frozenfox9098 Yeah I agree it really depends on the school. I'm an art major at my state college and tbh so far it all seems kinda like "fluff.." like busywork. Like I feel like I'm not there to actually learn anything, but to just do random crap for four years so I can get a degree. Pick your school wisely haha
i got so lucky that my senior comics capstone class taught me about freelancing and taught us about taxes n stuff. but i’m pretty sure she’s the only teacher that does though 😭
When I took painting one of the first things we had to learn was the hazardous material labels, how to label all our jugs, the difference between what old paints and new paints are made of. He had a paintbrush wall of shame covered in destroyed brushes, and said if we didn't clean our brushes properly (which he showed us how) then our brush would end up on the wall. He showed us what to do if there is a spill and where the split kit is, and all highly flammable were locked in a special hazards metal cabinet labeled with the right symbols. He also talked about how dangerous rags where, how to hang them right, and to never ever leave them in a pile. I went to a regular college but for art.... maybe art schools expect you to already have taken painting in highschool??? Seems like bad teaching to me...
No i honestly don't believe any responsible and respectable art school would skip safety measures for any discipline taught there. Lavendertowne must've just ended up in a school with horribly lousy standards.
We got the disturbing art safety PowerPoint! Didn’t include too much but yeah it was still traumatizing. (We were allowed to look away and were warned. I saw the same one last year so I knew what was comming) like seeing a x ray of a nail though someone’s hand and the scar from a plane of glass shattered and a few images of people wearing bandages. (Nothing gorey) but oh my god last year that PowerPoint freaked me out. It was only a few slides of that. But the rest of the info we learned was so important! Like about breathing in clay dust and to use a mop rather then a broom so you don’t just kick the clay dust up into the air. And then we had to do a (easy) quiz on it. I now know what each of the types of fire extinguishers are used for.
this was a super fair assessment of the art school experience. in a sea of videos where people are just ranting about how much they feel art school sucks and failed to serve their needs, it's refreshing to see someone address it in a fair way, thanks. :)
"1 view, 5 comments" in all honesty tho I just love your art style!! you're such an inspiration, and got me into digital art in the first place. love unfamiliar btw- I'm pretty young, and I dont plan on going to art school. But I'm really glad that you're here to teach others you are considering it, because all these points are extremely important. Thank you, from all of us~ also, last thing - "there's always boring adult stuff" most accurate thing I've heard in the last- 10 hours.
I can relate to the "step by step" my art class is just drawing the prompts we are given. My art teacher points out all my mistakes but doesn't tell me how to fix them. She is nice don't get me wrong but I have never had a art teacher who told you step by step or show me an example. I feel it would be better if we had step by step instructions except we do our own twist on it like if the did the step by step for the basics it would be helpful in the future. I have so much to learn but I just don't know how so I stick to what I know best. I do go outside the box a little but I would love it if the had something we could benefit off of. love your channel and art you are amazing!
I go to a state “liberal arts” university and the professors have been amazing with teaching us these things. Definitely recommend going to a smaller school. It is typically assumed in upper level classes that you are already good at what you’re doing, but in foundation classes (drawing 1, 2D design etc.) you have clear instructions and lots of assignments
I'm so grateful the teacher I had for several of my art classes in community college. He was older but SO open to listen to critique about how the industry was changing, what new opportunities were available, and didn't shy away from saying that he didn't know everything. I didn't realize how lucky I was at the time to be able to have him as a professor until other people told me about their horror stories with their old-fashioned teachers. Thank you for this video! I would love to go to a dedicated art school someday.
9:45 dont to go to art school to be a tattoo artist. It's a completely different set of skills from normal art and not anyone who can draw well should just pick it up and start permanently scarring people with needles! You can really fuck people up if you don't know what you're doing! You could be the best artist ever in any other medium but still do a bad tattoo or really hurt someone if you don't learn how first. The best thing to do if you want to be a tattoo artist is to buy your equipment, practice on some fake skin, and shoot for getting an apprenticeship from someone whos already a tattoo artist. Art school will not teach you about stuff like how to clean up after, how to prevent giving your client an infection, how to avoid giving people a blowout, etc.
I found out pretty recently that there are very few artists who try to minor or take classes in business to learn how to do their taxes and stuff. At the very least in my school, a lot of kids in the same major as I am are minoring in illustration so they can draw more. I was 100% surprised that since my school offers a business minor (which I was desperately looking for in an art school), that more kids weren't taking it. Going into art school, I just thought it was common sense to learn how to support yourself in a field that realistically, is very competitive and you're not guaranteed to do what you want for a living. But I guess not.
I did art school for a year. Dropped out because they kept telling me “give your art meaning”. Like, dude, chill out! I’m just here because I want to make the drawing I did at 5 years of age into more realistic drawings! Not create a god-damn masterpiece!
#5 is so painfully true. I just graduated with a bachelor's of arts degree in graphic design and most of my degree classes required heavy use of adobe software like illustrator, photoshop, indesign, after effects, etc. It's sad that I basically had to teach myself how to do everything through youtube and tiktok tutorials. I had a motion graphics class where the teacher spent maybe 20 minutes on the 1st day of class going over the very basics of animating something in after effects and that was it. Everything else I had to try to figure out on my own.
What you described about college art classes actually felt more like my high school art classes than my college art classes. Granted, I never went to a specifically art college, but my college had a very good art department. I had 1 college class that was just kind of random art prompts based on compositional components and I didn't feel like I learned anything. I took the class because I wanted to learn about composition, as in where to put things, how to balance lights and darks, how create a good composition, but it just wasn't that. It was a fun class and the professor love everything I did, but it just wasn't helpful. My other classes weren't tutorial style normally, more like studying concepts and then while we were working in class the professors would go around and give personal advice to help everyone where they are at.
I can remember when I applied to a more business styled art school, they had tests you had to attend, one pencil test and one watercolor test, the pencil one was pretty good but boy oh boy haven't touched watercolour in years and had to buy some extra for that, got told what categories 2 days before the test. I did not get in.
really grateful my fine arts prof taught about paint safety from day one and also how to take care of supplies, he even taught us how to build canvas stretchers and where to buy all the the materials. yes there was a really loud saw in our studio, that made horrifying noises, but it was worth it lol.
Man graduation seems so loooong ago for me already, but yeah it was way back. Gonna tell you guys I didn't learn as much about Art and Design as compared to what I learnt once working in the real world. However! I did learn alot of ways to network around in Art School, that I'm thankful for :>
I'm planning on going to art school when I graduate (four years to go lol) and all the videos you've put out on art school has helped me see what it's like and how to prepare, I thank you.
I attended a community college with a pretty robust art program, and my experience was honestly the complete opposite. All my teachers were extremely competent and caring, and even if they weren't aware of niche fields they were very supportive of the pursuit of them
to anyone who feels deterred from art school after watching this: i feel like this video is making a lot of commenters doubt going to school but i’m about to start my last year of art school and all of these are the exact opposite of my experience. 1. my teacher did give us an in depth lesson and a lot of resources on how to deal with taxes along with going into depth about how to keep track of deductions and which programs they recommend for free lancers to keep track of them. 2. i’m not a painting major (i’m an illustration major with a fashion minor) but any class we’ve had to paint in or use virtually any materials that weren’t a paper and pencil (digital tools, inks, screen printing materials, oil paints, clay, even glue, etc) they always told us exactly how to handle it, when to wash our hands and how to clean it off of our surfaces, and gave a brief tutorial/demo of how to use it before we did, which brings me to the next point, 3. in all of my foundation classes, they’d not only give us lessons for the why those fundamentals mattered, but they’d do a demo that we’d watch and show us examples either from past students or other artists of how we can apply it in different ways. unless the assignment specifically called for it we were never left without any guidance or help in the first year (or with new tools). since i just finished my 3rd year it was much more independent and there was no need for any hands on tutorials because the foundation taught so much. 4. majority of my teachers are in their mid 40s and younger and are currently working in the industry and have insight on what is new and popular, along with detailing exactly the projects they are doing for work and how that works for them. all of them have at least a decade or more of experience under their belt (most more around 20-25 years) but are all still currently working. my character design teacher was a character designer for lilo and stitch, brother bear, and tons of other early 2000s disney movies, for example. many of our projects consist of branding oneself, learning to make gifs, and planning for social media/website practices. 5. FINALLY?! my school ALSO provides the full adobe suite for the entire time that we are in school considered part of our tuition, we also have a library with a huge amount of current and classic resources about art and very helpful librarians. they even have many classes dedicated to learning those programs they provide and how to apply them to the real world. PLEASE don’t let his deter you from art schools, there are some actual good ones out there 👍😸
this is so long and rambly im sorry LOL i wrote it while watching the vid and didn’t proof read :* either way i love my art school and it has taught me SO much and i still have an entire year left yet i feel excited and prepared to start my career already. i’m v thankful for it and some art schools really are great and teach u a lot. i honestly feel like lavendertowne just went to a rly shitty art school unfortunately kfjdmd
For real i feel like so many of Lav's videos have become very discouraging and just ??? Blatantly untrue lol. If one art school she went to was this bad it means nothing about Art Schools in general. Usually college/bachelor level teaching wouldn't even get funded if it was as bad as this paints it out to be.
@@jasminv8653 yea!! i’ve been watching her for years and years and i had learned a lot from her back when she used to post tutorials and tips when i was a teenager, but i don’t think she clarifies enough in her art school videos that it’s only HER experience in that one brief 4 year period at that ONE art school. it sucks that she went to one that wasn’t very up to date or thoughtful, but the majority of schools are now, and half the comments are people changing their mind about going to art school which seriously sucks because i could have never improved or learned as much if not for being exposed to such amazing professionals and other classmates. art school isn’t for everyone and not every school is great, but that doesn’t mean they all suck and no one should go.
@@ellaizcool tbh I agree, I love all of her other stuff but I wish she could take a more positive spin b/c this video got me down in the dumps before my first year of college :(
every time i watch a video or talk to a real life person who went to art school the negatives far out weigh the positives and it makes me relieved i didnt put myself into debt doing it.
I am currently a first year student in art school, and after I watched the video I've gotta say that these stuff really depends on the school. Like, our school really tells us almost everything your school didn't. We have a sketching class where the teacher explained us everything from how to draw objects and shade them to the basics of anatomy to watercolor techniques. We learn a new technique in every illustration class. We have mandatory software classes (everything is mandatory in the first year but software classes stay mandatory at the later years). The only classes where they didn't explain anything are typography and photography, and even then the photography teacher explained us how to use a camera. Maybe it is because it's a design degree and not an art degree, but my school knows that some people have never picked up a pencil, so I guess it just depends on what what school you go to. I think it's always a good idea to look at the curriculm of the school you want to enroll, it will give you a better idea of what you are going to do there.
I am thankful that my college has courses in business that relate to art like if you want to start your own business there are courses for that. Our instructors pound in our heads how to take care of our stuff and give advice on where to get stuff for cheap. They don't call first year students freshmen (they believe the term freshmen is problematic) but foundation students because in that first year you learn the basics of art and the art programs before diving into your major. I don't why I want share this. I can relate to professors not understanding stuff like webtoons and stuff, there's a couple of them in my school. One of the professor there gave a senior a hard time cause they don't understand why their character is an Elf. Dude has no concept of Fantasy.
I‘m really glad that my Artschool (in Germany) made sure we‘d understand „the Money Stuff“ we would have to do, if we were to become freelancers ;) it definetly helped to make this kind of career less scary
In my school teachers are often dropping some tips, but generally they let you ,,learn it on your own skin" how we say it in Poland. The teacher that helps us the most is the one from wood carving classes, because let me tell you, stuff that we are using is ShORP. Two first lessons were all talk about how much blood of students was spilled in here and how chisel can cut through your body like buttter knife through butter
when I first began watching your videos around 5 years ago, I had no thoughts regarding art school or a future career path in art. since then, I've been accepted into both an art middle school while actively in middle school already, and also an art high school. so I like to think with joy and remember that you inspired me to begin my art path
dunno if anybody ever heard about this, but heres something i found out that can revive your brushes! (idk if this will work for some of you guys but it works on me) basically : 1. get hand sanitizer 2. pour on table (or in a bowl idk) 3. smear it all over the brush until its not rock hard 4. wash with soap and water (any kind of soap, but i just use dish washing soap) and you (probably) got a brand new brush!
Thankfully not all art school is like this. My art program was at a liberal arts college, but all the teachers there taught their respective media from the ground up as far as I can tell. Demos are extremely important when learning art and thankfully my school did that when learning a new skill. (e.g. specifically when taking the first level class in said new subject, which is what you do if it's not the track you've chosen as your main thing. Like taking ceramics 1 as a painting major.) Assuming competency in all media from the start like your school just seems like bad teaching practice.
I literally graduated art school like 4 days ago, and I'll just add the thing that should be taught everywhere👏 That being 🔥task and stress management🔥 You don't have to do your absolute 100% on each and every assignment they give you! I used to overcomplicate stuff for myself a lot, but sometimes there's no need to "win", it's ok if you just survive👏
For me at least, art safety was a huge deal in first year! Very eco place so using the right sinks for the right things, and giving you nightmares about dolphins and paint waste. Long term back health and lifting heavy stuff properly for traditional, a little about RSI for digital. The photography department is major for WHS. But definitely for the most part my tutors had all been pretty up to date with industry, depending on the class and department, really encouraging stylisation
I feel like certain art schools and certain art teachers tell you and not tell you certain things is because they want you to be a artist that they want you to be and they want things the way the want it to be.
I’m in a bit of a Star Vs brain rot, so hearing you mention it got me more excited than it probably should have- Also these tips are exceptionally helpful, thank you 🙏
At my university the majority of the teachers were pretty good and showed us the process step by step, especially the digital art and the 3D modeling teachers. We learned all the tools and functions for Photoshop, InDesign, illustrator and mudbox. There also was a separate person that helped both students and teachers if they had problems with some programs or devices. He even offered to help us install the programs. Also the graphics teachers showed us how to make a linocut and other types of gravures step by step. They showed the step by step process to each student individually and offered to help. Also they showed examples. Only the drawing teacher didn't show us the process step by step but at least she corrected our mistakes and told us what mistakes we've made. As for tool safety we didn't needed that for painting because we only painted with watercolors which wash easily with water. The graphics teachers told us about the tool safety regarding the gravure tools though.
I went to art school in 2006 to 2010 and paint safety and tool maintenance was definitely addressed by our instructors. This ranged from an oil painting class, media studies, color for illustrators, etc. In fact our studio head insisted that we do not eat at our studios. Part of it was the absorbency of food around art materials, but also for our own sanity and mental health. This was way before we were collectively considering mental health like we do now. Wild to think that your school didn’t even bother, but not all schools are built the same.
I plan on going to art school next year so this is SO helpful thank you so much!! Also what you said about taking care of paintbrushes, im not much of a painter but I knkw how to clean a brush butYOH HOW THE KIDS AT MY SCHOOL CLEAN THEM UH UH--
In the UK, or at least the art school I go to, we have a lot of focus on the business side of things. For which I am glad. For safety and stuff, I can’t say for the other courses, but I do production design and we had a lot of training on safety. Especially in the workshop. We also have a lot of planned tutorials in the first and second year, and then even more you can ask for like how to use the laser cutter or how to use a bandsaw or how you use blender and photoshop etc.
The tutorial training thing is very true. In an elective painting class. Our first assignment is a hyper realistic oil painting. Most people in the class haven’t painted before Also side note it’s so strange to look at these style videos because Lavender your videos helped me decide to apply to art school and now I’m about to graduate???
4:02 yes! especially if you have subjects like workshops that use many different chemical mixtures and stuff. They wouldnt even tell us if it's toxic generally.
I think this is the first art school video of yours I've watched since I actually decided not to go to art school and to be honest I feel so relieved. I would still love to go in theory but now that I know art is not my path in life it feels like a huge relief that I don't have to worry about surviving as an artist.
5:38 i can confirm that this is very much true. i'm really glad that i already knew the basics of drawing and animating before being an animation student. some of my classmates could barely even draw, let alone animate- one of them even put up drawings of literal *stickmen* for their final, and nothing else! my lecturer was very upset, i honestly feel bad for them...
I'm currently studying animation and am in my second year of the bachelor's programme, and it's really interesting to see how all of these are the opposite at my uni. I think part of this is because all of my teachers are using teaching as a side job, and all of them are working in the field at the same time. Ive just had a class where we learnt about taxes and how to choose the employment contracts and stuff. Tho my uni is very small and there's only like 15 people in one grade so its definitely easier that way
I’m going to be graduating High School in a few weeks and I’m going for animation in college! I really hope it’s a good experience, perfect time for the video to come out!! 💖❤️
Hey guys remember if your paintbrush is rlly stiff and dried out you can rub them in Isopropyl alcohol! Works like a charm no matter the type of paintbrush and it doesn’t ruin anything
All of these are very true. I really recommend if you’re getting your art/design degree at a public college, minor in business !! It can be very boring, but my school offers marketing, advertising, and small business management classes that really help you gain that foundational knowledge:)
I plan to either go into Graphic Design or animation for college. I kinda wanna do both, but your art school video have really helped me. So thank you!!!!
i used to watch you back when i used to do alot of art and drawing in my school but then i lost intrest and and now im getting back into it it is nice to see you still posting :)
Not to disprove haley’s first point, but some art courses in the uk (depending on the university and course) will offer an optional year for the business aspect of an art degree. So it really depends on your country and course/uni, which I suggest looking into when you apply for your uni (I am not yet in art school so obviously I could be wrong, but for the uni open day they mentioned it)
our tutors knew the programs too well actually, I'd say. they knew them so well they assumed everything was simple and easy to follow and I could never keep up with all the info dumping and would always in the end forget everything I got taught 10 minutes later, it was so intense every time lol. I had to learn toon boom myself anyway because of that, or ask questions outside of lectures and hope they don't get sidetracked
i love watching these videos knowing full well i’m not going into art school, like yeah i’ll never need this but it’s still v interesting all the same:]
I see a lot of stuff in common with here and my college program - I took marketing that had a big graphic design component - but man, does hearing all this ever make me glad that I didn't go to art school lmao
Mr old juice is literally my family, when I say art they’re like 👍 yes you’re making million dollar gallery paintings when you’re older or “you could design buildings” I’m like NOOoOOO
I find it kind of funny, because in my classes they did teach us the basics of safety and taking care of supplies when we were starting out. I even go to the same school Haley did. I think it just depends on the instructor Also we do have entire classes devoted to how to use certain software that you're required to take depending on your major
*What art school won't say:*
"It is a pleasure to inform you that you got accepted"
HELPPPP BAHAHAH
omg
HOLY CAKE LMFAO
Mine said it 🥺
@@xxcamelia where did you go?
POV: You're watching these videos with no intentions of going to art school
Don’t call me out like that!!!!
Pls don’t expose me like that-
I do go to an art school and I’m about to graduate
I actually want to （*´・з・`*)
Sweats suspicious
“You won’t get tutorial style training”
Me whose been really bad at following art tutorials my whole life: FINALLY YES NO MORE THIRD GRADE ART CLASS IM FREE
honestly this was a huge relief in a lot of classes for sure, it's nice to get taken seriously and not have like a paint by numbers feel in class haha
Honestly that sound great
Honestly I dropped out of mine bc what’s the point of it if they don’t do this 😭
@@LavenderTowneI really like you you’re so sweet and kind
Ive never been more happy to be at the “art school“ that I’m at now. We’re going to have a class dedicated to learn how to survive when we’re out of school, regarding free lance stuff. We always have a step to step tutorials on how to do things and we’re thoroughly tough how to use our software, including toon boom harmony. It’s a cégep so it’s really cheap and we have young, industry practicing teacher. I’m really living the dream! (I got to cégep du vieux Montréal, in animation, for the interested. Sadly it’s only in French.)
Omg wait, if you don't mind, which school? I live close to Montréal and been looking for a good school!
@@Kaffeeisresting no problem! It's the Cégep du vieux Montréal. The program is Dessin Animé!
@Chez thank you!
Omg quelqu’un d’autre de Montréal ^^
@@nathanielkyoki2121 Thank you very much! I will look into it 😊
Oh gosh… my painting teachers definitely went over the safety parts of oil paint. It was just a regular school though not an art school. It’s Alarming that art schools don’t teach that??
My art school had a lesson on materials safety at the start of every course, with an extra lesson when we started using oils. Not getting taught basic safety and material use was definitely a LavenderTown's school specific thing.
Both schools I've been to in the US, one being a private art college and the other being an art program at a private university, were both really really great at teaching students materials safety and had MSDS books in every single room with every item stored in that room listed inside. I know not every school is like mine, but I would definitely say it's more common than not that they WILL teach you safety.
Im in an art specific highschool in the painting course and we got NO safety lessons on oil paint. I had to teach all my classmates proper storage methods and care bcs our teacher was just like "ok start painting this kbye". We collectively hate her.
In Haley’s school it seems like they mostly assumed people already knew everything lol
My art school in the US didn’t teach us safety things either but it also really depends on your professor. Every professor priorities things differently, so what kinda sucks is that there is no standard way of teaching in college. You just have to hope that you have a good professor that cares about certain things
i ditched my degree in linguistics to pursue art school, im excited and nervous but it’s my life long dream!! i’m applying in the fall, so this came at the perfect time ^.^
good luck!
Good luck!! You got this!
Good luck!
good luck!!
Good luck to you!
Honestly, these art school videos made me realize I don’t need art school to be a great artist
Same, my mom wants me to go to a "fancy art school" but I don't know if she understands student debt plus this video s about art school make me want to go to my community College instead. 😅
@@deaddoll2304 honestly try to tell her ab all these things art school doesn't teach, shes probably under the impression that art school is more "how to art tutorials" than it is
Me too
@@8unnylover thanks I'll try and bring it up:)
@@deaddoll2304 No worries!! Good luck :D
I've had two classes in art school so far where the professor explained step by step what to do, but that class was also beginning etching, so we were all expected to be brand new to it. The other was a project where we made artist books, and we all had to learn how to bind books. Otherwise it's been pretty much 'figure it out yourself, you know how to draw/paint/whatever'.
My freshman year was pretty much step-by-step too; not exactly with each piece, but teaching/building on prior techniques
My first course was color and design in which he just shows a bunch of examples of different theories such as shadows, abstractions, or line work. He gave tests and we had to practice color matching to small pictures in magazines.
In my painting 1 class this past spring semester, he first just assigned basic paint from life in black and white, then introduced painting using two opposing temperatures (later glazing and dry brushing on top of it), and then he basically gave us new techniques to use but let us choose the content of the piece.
The more Haley talks about art school, the more she makes it sound like just actual hell.
I can't IMAGINE paying thousands of dollars on tuition to fight through even more panic and abelism in the school system after the hell that was high school just to be told "look it up", like I think I would actually just immediately die. I'm impressed _anyone_ can say, "art school was invaluable to me" and actually mean it, because the same people who say that always make it sound _so agonizing_ when they actually describe what it was like.
As someone who is currently taking a 2 year art program for animation and video games I can say for certain that it is certainly hell and i’ve considering giving up on it more than once. Sure I definitely have a better idea on what I want to do as an artist but holy crap it was so painful to go through that first year.
y'all are just picking the wrong schools because I'm going to art school and my experience is the complete opposite. Also my tuition is only like $5.000 per year for people at the dorm and less for those who doesn't live at school but that's because I'm not american
@@nic0a206 “just picking the wrong schools” when a lot of ppl talking about their bad experiences with school debt are from america (and american education is also Shit)
your experience sounds amazing, and i’d kill to be able to have an experience like that, but u have to realize that some people just aren’t that lucky. plus, the US raises prices if u go out of ur state for uni, even moreso if ur out of the country.
@@gh05tb0yzexact reason why if I ever get the chance to go to art school, I’m moving to Canada because I’ve heard that the prices are less aggressive there, and also the healthcare doesn’t cost 4 legs and 3 eyes for an doctors appointment
Freelancer in the US here. Just FYI: You CAN do your taxes only once a year if you want, but you have to be prepared to have it be more complicated and to pay a much bigger chunk of $$$ all at once. Many find it easier to do quarterly because it essentially segments the task into more easily-digestable chunks, especially when it comes to paying. But I personally hate hate HATE doing taxes and I'd rather just stress out about it only once a year than four times that. But I also make have to make sure I have the money on hand to cover the payment when it's due.
You know any resources that dumbs down that process?
@@rogueObscura I’m pretty sure the IRS actually has a tax calculator that makes it easier to do taxes you can scrounge around reddit lifehack post for it
I remember when I was in middle school & really wanted to become a professional full-time visual artist. I wanted to go to art university & everything, but overtime, while attending a visual arts high school looking through colleges, I found out that it’s not for me. Art itself is definitely for me but the universities are not. It sucks the creativity out.
The silver lining to this is that you don't need art school to be successful as an artist, even for the big positions.
Ive completely ditched the idea of going to art school. Everyone I know says it sucks and majority of art school students are busy crying online about how shit art school is or how stressful art GCSE is. I just want to find a straight answer about how art school and gcse is 🙍🏽♂️🙁
As a previous art gcse student who had so much trouble deciding what gcse's I wanted to do, art gcse was the one of the best decisions I've made.
My experience is not in any way universal, but I love art and am so happy I took it.
And while it probably helps that I go to a school with good art facilities and teachers, I just wanted to provide a viewpoint outside of what you seem to have found.
The best advice I can give is if you really want to take art, don't worry too much about what everyone else says.
Any extra work (and there is some) is much easier to do if you're passionate about your subject.
Honestly same
art gcse student here, if you keep up with your coursework and don't expect it to be any easier/ take less time than any of your other subjects it's managable
If you really never end up going, know that you can still be successful without art school, most artists are.
I haven't done much in my life yet but I think if I end up pursuing an art-focused education, it'll probably be a community college.
“They assume competency in everything you’re doing”
It’s called art SCHOOL, you know, where we LEARN and where you TEACH us
A close friend of mine is a full-time freelance artist. He went to law school but had to drop out due to the stress and anxiety. The funny thing is he learned everything from youtube and skillshare and now he's a full-blown pro. He used to do covers for comic books and now he mostly makes thumbnails for RUclipsrs.
oh shit, which youtubers
Me too,I’m learning animation from RUclips and that,same with parkour lol
Tip for my fellow high schoolers planning on art school:
Think about what art field you're going into. Take that art elective if possible. And take even more. I've been drawing for four years and still took drawing and printmaking I, going into II next year. Even if it seems basic it helps you improve so much. Take as many art electives as you can before graduating!!
Bonus: If you want to go into something very specific, look internationally as well. For example, some art schools in Asia have Manga Courses and degrees, so you won't have to settle for character design or something like that. Your options are open, and international students usually have more scholarship opportunities
This ^^^
I made the mistake of picking a degree program more for the sake of not realizing how much out of my element I was going to be rather than taking the time to really sit down and figure out what was going to make me happy and feel fulfilled as an artist. That and I didn’t want to take another drawing class with this insane drawing professor I had at the time and would’ve had to take for awhile for my undergrad drawing/design classes.
It would’ve helped me in the long run and maybe not drop out for the reasons I did
I went to graphic design because it was the closest to what I wanted. We learned both traditional and digital art there. We also learned graphic design as well. There were no manga courses or animation courses there but we've learned 3D modeling and photography as well.
Clubs also! I'm going to college for animation (not an art school) and while I was looking at the clubs there, I saw an animation club. There are clubs for everything so you're bound to find something that will help you for what you want, and if there isn't, you can make your own.
Thank you lol. She mentioned that a lot of teachers are against tattoo artists and that very well might be what I end up doing. If I end up going to art school, it will be to further my drawing skills to become a tattoo artist before I get an apprenticeship.
I am in middle school
Yes~ about older teachers stuck in their outdated ways! When I went to a community college for an art degree, I took a comic class, and the teacher was dead set on the idea that the only viable comic was newpaper gag strips, and that art style is the only way to succeed as a comic artist. He told me many times that my art style "is too cute and too smooth. if you want to be a comic artist, draw like they do in the Oregonian comics" so I stopped putting in effort, drew like they do in gag comics, and then he didn't like how fast I was finishing the assignments.
I ended that class with a solid C lmao and now I'm making webcomics in hopes of turning it into a career path.
@Romans 12:21 For some reason Webtoon won't let me upload. Doesn't like my file sizes or page dimentions I guess, but I upload on Tapas! My comic is called "Children of Sombra" by Kirin Comics :)
2nd year art student here: it all depends on the school. Where I go we had basic law lectures about everything that might be useful for artists, classes on software (photoshop, illustrator, after effects, animate, indesign, toonboom for those who specialise in animation, etc; all software provided by school), most teachers know a lot about new things in the industry, but its a school heavily focused on new media arts and computer science
AI, Phoenix grad here. It had law, post grad/freelance survival type lessons and what else you said as well. So I agree I think it just depends on the school
Taxes! Yes! I havent gone to art school, but the vocational school I did go to did teach us, a full class that was part of the Must Take classes, a whole lot about pricing and taxes AND how to start a business on your own from ground up.
I spent 2 months straight, 2-8 hours a day, "filing taxes" and doing counting and looking at professional e-mails and providers and etc on how to run this Fictional Horse Stable. That, if I had the startup money, by the end of that course I should have in theory been able to kick up and running after "sending" all the files I need to offical law&stuff people. I do not have a horse stable, but the experience was incredibly valuable to me, and I know a heck of a ton more about what to do now that before if I were to start a business of ANY kind. And that kind of course should absolutely be available to any and all educational institutions that supposedly send you to the real world once you're out!
Wait if u dint mind me asking, where were u able to get this course??? Is ur school in America???
@@numberVIII Nah I dont mind. Im finnish and studied in Finland. So nordic europe. The school I went to has now shut down the unit I was in due to low attendance, but it was part of the OSAO school system (a collection of units across and nearby the district of Oulu for different areas vocational studies.)
Gosh I wish all schools taught that
I have an _International Business_ degree from Mexico and, I kid you not, *THEY NEVER TAUGHT US HOW TO ACTUALLY OPEN A BUSINESS IN REAL LIFE!!!*
It was all theory bullshit on managing large teams and how to plan out supply routes, as if we'd be getting hired right out of school into a managerial position for a large international company. Those fuckers never even taught us how to pay our own taxes or how to ask for loans!
The goddamn education system here is a scam, and it doesn't sound much better in the USA.
Had to work in customer service at a call center for a while to pay my bills!
I'm so incredibly pissed that I wasted those 5 years of my life...
@@karo-kun2578 Oh my god of course it's Finland!!! I heard so many good things about the educational system there and am jealous of anyone who can study there😔 i have this unrealistic dream of wanting to go to a Finnish college but like i said, it's pretty unrealistic lmao
I'm confused at this point as what exactly artschool teaches/does for you
It's mostly high level skill practice, like refining your skills rather than learning them from scratch. Most of it focused on quickly generating ideas, refining your usage of color and light, and getting good at being able to critique your own work.
Honestly it depends on the art teacher itself and his or her style of teaching students. Some show you everything step by step others barely explain anything and correct you if you're lucky.
depends on the school, course, teachers, etc. In the school i just got into, they dont teach you ''how to draw''. If you want to get critique on your technique they def will give you some, but my course is extremely focused on storytelling through all aspects of your art. Also! Connections. You'll see other great students, teachers, etc. You can build a great relationship with other artists which can help you out when youre stuck later, or even land you a few jobs. In art schools in the netherlands its usual that about 80% of graduated students immediatly get employed, so thats also something.
I got in to force myself out of my comfort zone.
Turns out I'm pretty good with pastels. Never would have guessed.
@@l.frozenfox9098 Yeah I agree it really depends on the school. I'm an art major at my state college and tbh so far it all seems kinda like "fluff.." like busywork. Like I feel like I'm not there to actually learn anything, but to just do random crap for four years so I can get a degree. Pick your school wisely haha
i got so lucky that my senior comics capstone class taught me about freelancing and taught us about taxes n stuff. but i’m pretty sure she’s the only teacher that does though 😭
art school:
Expectations : "Your drawing looks amazing !! Keep going"
Reality : "uhh okay"
Also reality: "Nah this is a weak execution. Please redo it and hand it in tomorrow at 8 AM"
@@RememberTheDuck my teachers were lenient sometimes
When I took painting one of the first things we had to learn was the hazardous material labels, how to label all our jugs, the difference between what old paints and new paints are made of. He had a paintbrush wall of shame covered in destroyed brushes, and said if we didn't clean our brushes properly (which he showed us how) then our brush would end up on the wall. He showed us what to do if there is a spill and where the split kit is, and all highly flammable were locked in a special hazards metal cabinet labeled with the right symbols. He also talked about how dangerous rags where, how to hang them right, and to never ever leave them in a pile. I went to a regular college but for art.... maybe art schools expect you to already have taken painting in highschool??? Seems like bad teaching to me...
No i honestly don't believe any responsible and respectable art school would skip safety measures for any discipline taught there. Lavendertowne must've just ended up in a school with horribly lousy standards.
We got the disturbing art safety PowerPoint! Didn’t include too much but yeah it was still traumatizing. (We were allowed to look away and were warned. I saw the same one last year so I knew what was comming) like seeing a x ray of a nail though someone’s hand and the scar from a plane of glass shattered and a few images of people wearing bandages. (Nothing gorey) but oh my god last year that PowerPoint freaked me out. It was only a few slides of that. But the rest of the info we learned was so important! Like about breathing in clay dust and to use a mop rather then a broom so you don’t just kick the clay dust up into the air. And then we had to do a (easy) quiz on it. I now know what each of the types of fire extinguishers are used for.
this was a super fair assessment of the art school experience. in a sea of videos where people are just ranting about how much they feel art school sucks and failed to serve their needs, it's refreshing to see someone address it in a fair way, thanks. :)
Shout-out to my freshman year painting teacher who boasted about having a "cancer farm" in her garage with all of the open jars of solvent.
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in all honesty tho I just love your art style!! you're such an inspiration, and got me into digital art in the first place.
love unfamiliar btw-
I'm pretty young, and I dont plan on going to art school. But I'm really glad that you're here to teach others you are considering it, because all these points are extremely important. Thank you, from all of us~
also, last thing - "there's always boring adult stuff"
most accurate thing I've heard in the last- 10 hours.
I took college art classes while I was still in high school. I definitely recommend it if your school has a program like that
@@RosyKitteh OMG THANK YOU
I've always wondered about those types of classes, I just hope ib doesnt make it too hard to keep up with then T^T
POV: you’re watching this despite not being able to afford to go to art school
I feel called out 😭
😭 don’t call me out like that ok
Indeed ;-;
I can relate to the "step by step" my art class is just drawing the prompts we are given. My art teacher points out all my mistakes but doesn't tell me how to fix them. She is nice don't get me wrong but I have never had a art teacher who told you step by step or show me an example. I feel it would be better if we had step by step instructions except we do our own twist on it like if the did the step by step for the basics it would be helpful in the future. I have so much to learn but I just don't know how so I stick to what I know best. I do go outside the box a little but I would love it if the had something we could benefit off of. love your channel and art you are amazing!
I go to a state “liberal arts” university and the professors have been amazing with teaching us these things. Definitely recommend going to a smaller school. It is typically assumed in upper level classes that you are already good at what you’re doing, but in foundation classes (drawing 1, 2D design etc.) you have clear instructions and lots of assignments
I'm so grateful the teacher I had for several of my art classes in community college. He was older but SO open to listen to critique about how the industry was changing, what new opportunities were available, and didn't shy away from saying that he didn't know everything. I didn't realize how lucky I was at the time to be able to have him as a professor until other people told me about their horror stories with their old-fashioned teachers.
Thank you for this video! I would love to go to a dedicated art school someday.
9:45 dont to go to art school to be a tattoo artist. It's a completely different set of skills from normal art and not anyone who can draw well should just pick it up and start permanently scarring people with needles! You can really fuck people up if you don't know what you're doing! You could be the best artist ever in any other medium but still do a bad tattoo or really hurt someone if you don't learn how first. The best thing to do if you want to be a tattoo artist is to buy your equipment, practice on some fake skin, and shoot for getting an apprenticeship from someone whos already a tattoo artist. Art school will not teach you about stuff like how to clean up after, how to prevent giving your client an infection, how to avoid giving people a blowout, etc.
I found out pretty recently that there are very few artists who try to minor or take classes in business to learn how to do their taxes and stuff. At the very least in my school, a lot of kids in the same major as I am are minoring in illustration so they can draw more. I was 100% surprised that since my school offers a business minor (which I was desperately looking for in an art school), that more kids weren't taking it. Going into art school, I just thought it was common sense to learn how to support yourself in a field that realistically, is very competitive and you're not guaranteed to do what you want for a living. But I guess not.
Literally makes me so happy when you post, ur my inspiration to draw- never stop
I did art school for a year. Dropped out because they kept telling me “give your art meaning”. Like, dude, chill out! I’m just here because I want to make the drawing I did at 5 years of age into more realistic drawings! Not create a god-damn masterpiece!
Me during the second character: *looks at my identical ruined brush from not washing acrylics off properly*
*awesome, so that’s what happened*
#5 is so painfully true. I just graduated with a bachelor's of arts degree in graphic design and most of my degree classes required heavy use of adobe software like illustrator, photoshop, indesign, after effects, etc. It's sad that I basically had to teach myself how to do everything through youtube and tiktok tutorials. I had a motion graphics class where the teacher spent maybe 20 minutes on the 1st day of class going over the very basics of animating something in after effects and that was it. Everything else I had to try to figure out on my own.
What you described about college art classes actually felt more like my high school art classes than my college art classes. Granted, I never went to a specifically art college, but my college had a very good art department. I had 1 college class that was just kind of random art prompts based on compositional components and I didn't feel like I learned anything. I took the class because I wanted to learn about composition, as in where to put things, how to balance lights and darks, how create a good composition, but it just wasn't that. It was a fun class and the professor love everything I did, but it just wasn't helpful.
My other classes weren't tutorial style normally, more like studying concepts and then while we were working in class the professors would go around and give personal advice to help everyone where they are at.
I can remember when I applied to a more business styled art school, they had tests you had to attend, one pencil test and one watercolor test, the pencil one was pretty good but boy oh boy haven't touched watercolour in years and had to buy some extra for that, got told what categories 2 days before the test. I did not get in.
5:00 - pro tip : for the shirt design use the distortion tool so it doesn't look like someone just slapped a sticker on the drawing. !!!
It looks fine after the shading
really grateful my fine arts prof taught about paint safety from day one and also how to take care of supplies, he even taught us how to build canvas stretchers and where to buy all the the materials. yes there was a really loud saw in our studio, that made horrifying noises, but it was worth it lol.
Man graduation seems so loooong ago for me already, but yeah it was way back. Gonna tell you guys I didn't learn as much about Art and Design as compared to what I learnt once working in the real world.
However! I did learn alot of ways to network around in Art School, that I'm thankful for :>
I'm planning on going to art school when I graduate (four years to go lol) and all the videos you've put out on art school has helped me see what it's like and how to prepare, I thank you.
I found in the craft side of art school at my art school ACAD was much more skills based vs the fine arts side. That’s why I went into craft.
I attended a community college with a pretty robust art program, and my experience was honestly the complete opposite. All my teachers were extremely competent and caring, and even if they weren't aware of niche fields they were very supportive of the pursuit of them
omg its always such a treat to go to my recommended and see that lav uploaded- thanks for sharing useful info to random peoplr of the internet uwu
to anyone who feels deterred from art school after watching this: i feel like this video is making a lot of commenters doubt going to school but i’m about to start my last year of art school and all of these are the exact opposite of my experience.
1. my teacher did give us an in depth lesson and a lot of resources on how to deal with taxes along with going into depth about how to keep track of deductions and which programs they recommend for free lancers to keep track of them.
2. i’m not a painting major (i’m an illustration major with a fashion minor) but any class we’ve had to paint in or use virtually any materials that weren’t a paper and pencil (digital tools, inks, screen printing materials, oil paints, clay, even glue, etc) they always told us exactly how to handle it, when to wash our hands and how to clean it off of our surfaces, and gave a brief tutorial/demo of how to use it before we did, which brings me to the next point,
3. in all of my foundation classes, they’d not only give us lessons for the why those fundamentals mattered, but they’d do a demo that we’d watch and show us examples either from past students or other artists of how we can apply it in different ways. unless the assignment specifically called for it we were never left without any guidance or help in the first year (or with new tools). since i just finished my 3rd year it was much more independent and there was no need for any hands on tutorials because the foundation taught so much.
4. majority of my teachers are in their mid 40s and younger and are currently working in the industry and have insight on what is new and popular, along with detailing exactly the projects they are doing for work and how that works for them. all of them have at least a decade or more of experience under their belt (most more around 20-25 years) but are all still currently working. my character design teacher was a character designer for lilo and stitch, brother bear, and tons of other early 2000s disney movies, for example. many of our projects consist of branding oneself, learning to make gifs, and planning for social media/website practices.
5. FINALLY?! my school ALSO provides the full adobe suite for the entire time that we are in school considered part of our tuition, we also have a library with a huge amount of current and classic resources about art and very helpful librarians. they even have many classes dedicated to learning those programs they provide and how to apply them to the real world.
PLEASE don’t let his deter you from art schools, there are some actual good ones out there 👍😸
this is so long and rambly im sorry LOL i wrote it while watching the vid and didn’t proof read :* either way i love my art school and it has taught me SO much and i still have an entire year left yet i feel excited and prepared to start my career already. i’m v thankful for it and some art schools really are great and teach u a lot. i honestly feel like lavendertowne just went to a rly shitty art school unfortunately kfjdmd
For real i feel like so many of Lav's videos have become very discouraging and just ??? Blatantly untrue lol. If one art school she went to was this bad it means nothing about Art Schools in general. Usually college/bachelor level teaching wouldn't even get funded if it was as bad as this paints it out to be.
@@jasminv8653 yea!! i’ve been watching her for years and years and i had learned a lot from her back when she used to post tutorials and tips when i was a teenager, but i don’t think she clarifies enough in her art school videos that it’s only HER experience in that one brief 4 year period at that ONE art school. it sucks that she went to one that wasn’t very up to date or thoughtful, but the majority of schools are now, and half the comments are people changing their mind about going to art school which seriously sucks because i could have never improved or learned as much if not for being exposed to such amazing professionals and other classmates. art school isn’t for everyone and not every school is great, but that doesn’t mean they all suck and no one should go.
@@ellaizcool tbh I agree, I love all of her other stuff but I wish she could take a more positive spin b/c this video got me down in the dumps before my first year of college :(
I really do like you're arts and this video really helps me out 💜
every time i watch a video or talk to a real life person who went to art school the negatives far out weigh the positives and it makes me relieved i didnt put myself into debt doing it.
I am currently a first year student in art school, and after I watched the video I've gotta say that these stuff really depends on the school. Like, our school really tells us almost everything your school didn't. We have a sketching class where the teacher explained us everything from how to draw objects and shade them to the basics of anatomy to watercolor techniques. We learn a new technique in every illustration class. We have mandatory software classes (everything is mandatory in the first year but software classes stay mandatory at the later years). The only classes where they didn't explain anything are typography and photography, and even then the photography teacher explained us how to use a camera. Maybe it is because it's a design degree and not an art degree, but my school knows that some people have never picked up a pencil, so I guess it just depends on what what school you go to. I think it's always a good idea to look at the curriculm of the school you want to enroll, it will give you a better idea of what you are going to do there.
I am thankful that my college has courses in business that relate to art like if you want to start your own business there are courses for that. Our instructors pound in our heads how to take care of our stuff and give advice on where to get stuff for cheap. They don't call first year students freshmen (they believe the term freshmen is problematic) but foundation students because in that first year you learn the basics of art and the art programs before diving into your major. I don't why I want share this.
I can relate to professors not understanding stuff like webtoons and stuff, there's a couple of them in my school. One of the professor there gave a senior a hard time cause they don't understand why their character is an Elf. Dude has no concept of Fantasy.
What school do you go to?
I‘m really glad that my Artschool (in Germany) made sure we‘d understand „the Money Stuff“ we would have to do, if we were to become freelancers ;) it definetly helped to make this kind of career less scary
In my school teachers are often dropping some tips, but generally they let you ,,learn it on your own skin" how we say it in Poland. The teacher that helps us the most is the one from wood carving classes, because let me tell you, stuff that we are using is ShORP. Two first lessons were all talk about how much blood of students was spilled in here and how chisel can cut through your body like buttter knife through butter
when I first began watching your videos around 5 years ago, I had no thoughts regarding art school or a future career path in art. since then, I've been accepted into both an art middle school while actively in middle school already, and also an art high school. so I like to think with joy and remember that you inspired me to begin my art path
I love watching these even though I’m not gonna go to art school
dunno if anybody ever heard about this, but heres something i found out that can revive your brushes! (idk if this will work for some of you guys but it works on me)
basically :
1. get hand sanitizer
2. pour on table (or in a bowl idk)
3. smear it all over the brush until its not rock hard
4. wash with soap and water (any kind of soap, but i just use dish washing soap) and you (probably) got a brand new brush!
Thankfully not all art school is like this. My art program was at a liberal arts college, but all the teachers there taught their respective media from the ground up as far as I can tell. Demos are extremely important when learning art and thankfully my school did that when learning a new skill. (e.g. specifically when taking the first level class in said new subject, which is what you do if it's not the track you've chosen as your main thing. Like taking ceramics 1 as a painting major.)
Assuming competency in all media from the start like your school just seems like bad teaching practice.
“Sipping on old school juice”
I’m going to say this all the time now😂
Sippin on straight chlorine
Sorry I felt like I had to
I literally graduated art school like 4 days ago, and I'll just add the thing that should be taught everywhere👏 That being 🔥task and stress management🔥
You don't have to do your absolute 100% on each and every assignment they give you! I used to overcomplicate stuff for myself a lot, but sometimes there's no need to "win", it's ok if you just survive👏
For me at least, art safety was a huge deal in first year! Very eco place so using the right sinks for the right things, and giving you nightmares about dolphins and paint waste. Long term back health and lifting heavy stuff properly for traditional, a little about RSI for digital. The photography department is major for WHS. But definitely for the most part my tutors had all been pretty up to date with industry, depending on the class and department, really encouraging stylisation
I feel like certain art schools and certain art teachers tell you and not tell you certain things is because they want you to be a artist that they want you to be and they want things the way the want it to be.
I’m in a bit of a Star Vs brain rot, so hearing you mention it got me more excited than it probably should have-
Also these tips are exceptionally helpful, thank you 🙏
At my university the majority of the teachers were pretty good and showed us the process step by step, especially the digital art and the 3D modeling teachers. We learned all the tools and functions for Photoshop, InDesign, illustrator and mudbox. There also was a separate person that helped both students and teachers if they had problems with some programs or devices. He even offered to help us install the programs. Also the graphics teachers showed us how to make a linocut and other types of gravures step by step. They showed the step by step process to each student individually and offered to help. Also they showed examples. Only the drawing teacher didn't show us the process step by step but at least she corrected our mistakes and told us what mistakes we've made. As for tool safety we didn't needed that for painting because we only painted with watercolors which wash easily with water. The graphics teachers told us about the tool safety regarding the gravure tools though.
Nice Manager Kim reference in the first drawing, I've been binging the manwha lately and it's so fun to read
Lavendertowne spilling the tea on art schools 💅
Me: thinking about art school
LavenderTowne: *uploads video about art school*
I went to art school in 2006 to 2010 and paint safety and tool maintenance was definitely addressed by our instructors. This ranged from an oil painting class, media studies, color for illustrators, etc.
In fact our studio head insisted that we do not eat at our studios. Part of it was the absorbency of food around art materials, but also for our own sanity and mental health. This was way before we were collectively considering mental health like we do now.
Wild to think that your school didn’t even bother, but not all schools are built the same.
my school did learn progams and treated you like a beginner to art, this is so wow that some schools are like that
I plan on going to art school next year so this is SO helpful thank you so much!!
Also what you said about taking care of paintbrushes, im not much of a painter but I knkw how to clean a brush butYOH HOW THE KIDS AT MY SCHOOL CLEAN THEM UH UH--
Great info!!! And I loooooveee the Amity-like hair on the first art student lol
She’s so cute and tysm for making all that I love your art style❤️❤️
You’re art is so beautiful!! I love you!!❤️❤️
In the UK, or at least the art school I go to, we have a lot of focus on the business side of things. For which I am glad.
For safety and stuff, I can’t say for the other courses, but I do production design and we had a lot of training on safety. Especially in the workshop. We also have a lot of planned tutorials in the first and second year, and then even more you can ask for like how to use the laser cutter or how to use a bandsaw or how you use blender and photoshop etc.
The tutorial training thing is very true. In an elective painting class. Our first assignment is a hyper realistic oil painting. Most people in the class haven’t painted before
Also side note it’s so strange to look at these style videos because Lavender your videos helped me decide to apply to art school and now I’m about to graduate???
4:02 yes! especially if you have subjects like workshops that use many different chemical mixtures and stuff. They wouldnt even tell us if it's toxic generally.
I think this is the first art school video of yours I've watched since I actually decided not to go to art school and to be honest I feel so relieved. I would still love to go in theory but now that I know art is not my path in life it feels like a huge relief that I don't have to worry about surviving as an artist.
5:38 i can confirm that this is very much true. i'm really glad that i already knew the basics of drawing and animating before being an animation student. some of my classmates could barely even draw, let alone animate- one of them even put up drawings of literal *stickmen* for their final, and nothing else! my lecturer was very upset, i honestly feel bad for them...
I'm currently studying animation and am in my second year of the bachelor's programme, and it's really interesting to see how all of these are the opposite at my uni. I think part of this is because all of my teachers are using teaching as a side job, and all of them are working in the field at the same time. Ive just had a class where we learnt about taxes and how to choose the employment contracts and stuff. Tho my uni is very small and there's only like 15 people in one grade so its definitely easier that way
I’m going to art school next year and this will help a lot :] thank you!
When you said it wasn’t really step by step I was like-
FINALLY NO MORE TAKING HOURS ON A ART PIECE I COULD DO IN MINUTES!!!! 💀
I’m going to be graduating High School in a few weeks and I’m going for animation in college! I really hope it’s a good experience, perfect time for the video to come out!! 💖❤️
I love your art style so much haha!
Hey guys remember if your paintbrush is rlly stiff and dried out you can rub them in Isopropyl alcohol! Works like a charm no matter the type of paintbrush and it doesn’t ruin anything
All of these are very true. I really recommend if you’re getting your art/design degree at a public college, minor in business !! It can be very boring, but my school offers marketing, advertising, and small business management classes that really help you gain that foundational knowledge:)
Ur art is so pretty omg
I plan to either go into Graphic Design or animation for college. I kinda wanna do both, but your art school video have really helped me. So thank you!!!!
i used to watch you back when i used to do alot of art and drawing in my school but then i lost intrest and and now im getting back into it it is nice to see you still posting :)
I LOVE U! NEVER STOP MAKING ART
THE CHARACTER DESIGNS IN THE VIDEO ARE AMAZING OMG
Not to disprove haley’s first point, but some art courses in the uk (depending on the university and course) will offer an optional year for the business aspect of an art degree. So it really depends on your country and course/uni, which I suggest looking into when you apply for your uni (I am not yet in art school so obviously I could be wrong, but for the uni open day they mentioned it)
our tutors knew the programs too well actually, I'd say. they knew them so well they assumed everything was simple and easy to follow and I could never keep up with all the info dumping and would always in the end forget everything I got taught 10 minutes later, it was so intense every time lol. I had to learn toon boom myself anyway because of that, or ask questions outside of lectures and hope they don't get sidetracked
i love watching these videos knowing full well i’m not going into art school, like yeah i’ll never need this but it’s still v interesting all the same:]
I am so thankful that you post these videos, it really makes me think about what I want to do and gives me a new prospective on collage :]
Lavendertowne's voice has changed so much over time! I love this channel 💛
Thanks for the advice it really helped now I know some thinks that won't be mentioned in art schools.
I see a lot of stuff in common with here and my college program - I took marketing that had a big graphic design component - but man, does hearing all this ever make me glad that I didn't go to art school lmao
Thank you for the upload! I missed your videos about your art school experience/ art school in general!
Thank you so much for this!!This is truly thoughtful of you to share future problems that some people may go through oblivious of what is not told ♥️
Mr old juice is literally my family, when I say art they’re like 👍 yes you’re making million dollar gallery paintings when you’re older or “you could design buildings” I’m like NOOoOOO
Omggg the madoka shirt on the girl is so cute
I find it kind of funny, because in my classes they did teach us the basics of safety and taking care of supplies when we were starting out. I even go to the same school Haley did. I think it just depends on the instructor
Also we do have entire classes devoted to how to use certain software that you're required to take depending on your major
i really love these videos bc im in art school rn and I feel so directionless , so thank you!