He seeds his stories with so many ideas that writers can farm his work for story lines and characters for ages. His work has had tremendous influence on comics for both Marvel and DC far beyond what he's given credit for.
@SEZWAH Those creators were huge too. Mark Millar and Ed Brubaker also had a big hand in the creation of the current MCU. There are many working parts in the comic industry, so much inspiration coming together to bring these characters to life.
@@CousinCreepyseems like an oddly disrespectful comment when you speak so highly of their work. its not like the whole message of every x men story boils down to identity tolerance or anything
I’m assuming Emma’s mutation includes maintaining full psychic control over her costume at all times, cause bro, that is not how clothes do when faced with the physics of Earth.
Funny enough, this has actually been explained. She psychically manipulates how others see her. So any zits, bad haircuts, costume issues, or injuries are essentially just ignored by those around her so that they only see what she wants them to. In her old solo series that took place in her teens and early 20’s, we learned that she’s not even naturally blonde.
New X-men 121 (the no-dialogue issue) is still my favorite single x issue of all time. Incredible job by Quitely and Morrison. And I loved Dautermann and Hickman's tribute to it.
I loved that Marvel did that. I think every issue that came out that month was silent, they were flexing. I'd love to see them do something like that nowadays
@@radioactivegaming7532 ah, Marvel's Nuff Said month. New Xmen made the best use of the concept. However, the PP, SPIDER-MAN issue was pretty entertaining as well.
The problem with these videos is they are going to make me want to read these comics, which I will never be able to find in store. The pains of not being a digital comic guy
I managed to pick it all up on eBay in one go for about £50 last year, you may be spending either a little more or a little less, but trust me, it's a great run
I picked up this whole run in paperback form a few years ago. It’s broken up into 3 editions. If you can’t find that the hard cover omnibus is pretty easy to find.
I just read this comic line like last year and its the reason Ive been reading comics again not just watching summary videos. Making stories relatable and character driven is what the xmen do best and everyone should follow that.
Owen Like Comics, Grant Morrison is one of my favorite comic book writers because he truly understands very well the concept of fiction (specially when it comes to superheroes), I would have love for Morrison to have written comic book runs about the Avengers, Fantastic Four, Legion of Super Heroes, Teen Titans, Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange, Aquaman, Shazam and Metamorpho The Element Man; those could have been also worth-reading jewels, but it's actually fine for Grant Morrison that he reitred, he already had fun writing amazing stories.
Most remarkable thing about New X-Men was Cyclops character shift. Made Cyclops to be my favorite Marvel hero. Him before Morrison was boring. The most interesting thing about him was being Jean Grey's boyfriend. After he become a badass. He (and Emma) made the team survive trought M-Day, Messiah Complex, he defeated Norman Osborn in Dark Reign. He was a true leader trought the darkest moment of their history. Of course until Brian Michael Bendis screw everything up.
@@christopherroberts4682 i liked it to a point. like, the first 22 issues of the uncanny x men by bendis isn't bad. but there's a point in the last will and testament of professor x arc, that ruined the scott's character: at least to me.
Grant Morrison is definitely one of my top 5 writers and Frank Quitely is a top 10 artists to me. This run was so freaking good! Especially when Quitely was drawing. X-Men have always been some of my favorite characters and had definitely been in a slump before Morrison took over. Very nice breakdown of the run. Great video!!
New X-Men is probably my second favourite X-Men run (behind Hickman's current take). I first read it all last year and am slowly going through it again, it's such a good run
I never realized New X-men brought me back to the franchise. It had been years since i read an X-men comic. Picking up New X-men, i was interested in the art, which at the time, was vastly different from the usual X-comics. The storyline caught me up and the powerful Genosha scenes kept me invested( it was somewhat around 9/11 and reminded me of the event).
I miss those awesome Frank Quitely costumes. I know they're not for everyone, but I thought they looked great and helped the characters stand out from your other typical superhero costume designs.
I dislike it because they are too similar, it makes the X-Men look militaristic and also gets rid of the meta reason behind the colorful costumes. The meta reason for the colorful costumes is essentially the same reason behind the pride flag. It is symbolic of multiple viewpoints and origins weaving together to have a more cohesive whole. I'm not saying they don't look good, I'm saying it doesn't work alongside the greater messaging and meta-narrative of the X-Men.
@@ElizaGWR Fair but you must understand the X-Men have always had similar costumes, especially in their debut. Obviously they've evolved, but I like the uniformity with looking unique and the militaristic look does work for me, but perhaps it isn't suited for the main X-Men team. Keep the X-Men as superhero mutants, and X-Force can have the militaristic look.
@@ProjektTakuThe New X-Men suits look a lot like the black leather outfits from the X-Men films. Perhaps Morrison wanted to capitalize on the success of the films and brought the film asthetic to the comics.
@@Bardim18 definitely. Interestingly enough, the Ultimate X-Men series did something similar as well. Personally, I can't understand why they still had them by the third movie, they were clearly uncomfortable and looked ridiculous.
I always was conflicted about Morrison's run. On the one hand I loved a lot of the new characters introduced, many of whom became longtime members. However his big plotlines, especially the Xorn reveal, often felt contrived and a bit clunky and overly grimdark.
@@alvarolopezrodriguez3255 no he stated that Xorn was always planned to be magneto. It was the editors who tried to change his mind cause they wanted to keep using magneto. That’s why xorn was retconned after Grant Morison left the book
@@AlanNoMoney Also Morrison didn't really get Magneto and they were dealing with heavy life stuff when he wrote that plot point. Magneto is not a straight up villain. Also while their writing was good, there are a lot missteps. Their run is a lot more controversial than some people believe it to be. For me there are ideas in their writing I like, secondary mutations, sublime, the U-Men, Weapon Plus, Fantomex, and the white hot room for example, and ideas I hated his lack of understanding of Magneto's character, the third Jean Grey/Phoenix retcon, putting Emma and Scott in a relationship as Emma deserves better than Scott, the costumes, how the X-Men treated Martha Johannson, the existence of the "special class" being for students not on par with the others as that is a bit ableist especially for the X-Men, the treatment of Jean Grey as a character, the slightly nihilistic tone, saying that a mental affair between a Scott and Emma doesn't count as cheating because it happened in the mindscape. I guess the biggest problem is these character's weren't acting in character, they were acting as Morrison's versions of the characters, which isn't on its own a bad thing, it just creates a disconnect with many readers.
great vid, thanks for reminding me how good that run was! I first learned of Mr. Morrison with his incredible turn on the Doom Patrol (similarities to X-Men are well-documented) and this was some of his best work. I also enjoyed Joss Whedon's "Astonishing X-Men".
Oh yeah! This era of X-men is totally fantastic! Lots of great memories! Definitely a very special piece of my teenage years! These comics were super amazing and I really loved stories like the weapon plus raid, the underground battle with Fantomex, Riot at Xavier’s and here comes Tomorrow! Totally incredible! I even wrote an article about it in my school paper and my teacher praised me for it! I have so many great memories about this series! Thanks a lot for this video! This run should be required reading for every single x-men fan!
Great video as always! I would love if you dug deep on the Mike Carey x-men run. He's an unsung hero who held it down for years. It's crazy how much his time has influenced Hickman's run, almost as much as Morrison.
I had been reading comics here and there one single issue at a time since the 90’s when I was a child but New X-Men was the first “run” I collected and read as a complete series. This really made me love Marvel and X-Men specifically.
New X-men was super inspiring to me! I even wrote an article about it for my school Newspaper which I was a staff member of at the time. It was one of three main articles I did on different books. My English teacher had asked me to write about great things to read. So first I covered New X-Men, followed by Clifford the Big Red dog, and finally an article on Goosebumps by R L Stine.
The reason that the X-Men were aimless at the time was that from 1996-2001 the editorial staff over the X-Men kept changing what direction the X-men were supposed to go every two years. Had the X-Men not been so horribly mismanaged during that period of time, then it would not have been aimless. As far as what Grant Morrison did...he came in and spent the first 12 issues breaking all the toys. Which is all fine and good, but then he realized that he needed to continue writing for the series. I reread those and it is plain to see that after breaking all of the toys, he didn't know what to do. Slowly, over the course of his run, he wound up reverting to the X-Men style of writing that had worked for the past so many decades. From Chris Claremont in 1975 through to the collaboration between Fabian Nicieza (Vol 2) and Scott Lobdell (Uncanny) in1996, there is a twenty year period whereby the continuity was amazingly strong. You can't read that golden age and then read Grant Morrison's run and think that he is writing the X-Men. Grant Morrison was the first writer to try to make the X-Men something they weren't. It would have been far better to have given Grant Morrison the Ultimate X-Men and bring Fabian Nicieza back on board to helm both Uncanny and Vol. 2.
I read these books when they were first released and I have SUCH good memories. Grant Morrison really did change the X-men--the book felt so different and so fresh. Especially compared to the other X-books out at the time.
I wonder what Grant Morrison makes of what Jonathan Hickman is doing with the X-Men currently since it's a direct follow up on Morrison's New X-Men run?
A run I often go back to every once in a while. What I have liked about many of the X titles is that each writer puts their own stamp on it without moving away from the core essential elements that make the X-men who they are.
Morrison changed the X-Men forever and pave the way for future writers in the title. After Claremont, Morrison is my favorite X-Men writer. Can you make a video about Morrison's JLA run ?
Hearing Morrison's statements of "the X-Men have become cautious dogy retro" given Morrison's views on Magneto, and how Morrison wrote Magneto as a drug-adict terrorist (and not to Mention Morrison's opinions of how Magneto has always been an outdated man with retrograde ideas), Is so massively ironic. Especially considering Magneto at one point was a teacher of the new mutants and tried to reform
Recently, I decided to check Grant Morrison's X-Men. Not only did their work save the X-Men, but they established concepts other writers like Jason Aaron would use, like Quentin Quire.
I still think this film has a really good feeling to it. The dark atmosphere fit nicely and everyone fit so well into their role. Plus the locations all felt very real and unique. It’s a shame how much had to get cut. Especially because nowadays audiences have shown they are willing to sit through a 3 hour superhero film.
Absolutely love this incredible run. The only black spot really was the filler issues with rushed art. I'm sure Igor Kordey is a great artist, but he got the short end of the stick filling in. He did my favorite run of the series too -- the introduction of Fantomex. Surprised you didn't mention him Owen! Otherwise great video!
"Now changing stereotyped portrayals of mutants on movies and T.V." I don't remember if New X-Men ever brought this up again, but I love this little world-building detail. I'm pretty morbidly curious about what a mutant stereotype would be
Lovely! I just recently finished this comic book run. It was my first foray into the X-Men characters, as someone who really hadn't seen the movies, just First Class, Wolverine Origins (I enjoyed this one as a kid...) and Logan. As a Bowie fan I was pretty happy with the use of Homo Superior (here's hoping they use Oh! You Pretty Things for the MCU.) It introduced me to characters I didn't know beforehand like Five-In-One, Fantomex and Xorn, all of which are new favourites. It also got me to appreciate characters like Emma Frost and Jean Grey, whos also definitely a new favourite. Granted by the 3rd book it did take a turn I wasn't so sure about but in the end it all wrapped together pretty well and as someone who's just getting into comics it showed me that comic books don't necessarily adhere to the same storyline conventions that movies or televisions based on these do, they can jump around and get pretty silly, which I quite liked. Overall, definitely looking to read more X-Men in the near future.
*I think I read the New X-Men comics before! Love the aesthetician and story elements of New X-Men! Grant Morrsion is a genius!:D Even Wolverine was modeled from his New X-Men counterpart in the awesome 2003 X2: Wolverine 's Revenge! I hope Kevin Fiege and the MCU film crew takes some inspiration and elements from both New X-Men and the Ultimate X-Men when they finally reboot, recast, reinvent, revitalize, and reintroduce Marvel 's X-Men, our beloved benevolent mutant superheroines and superheroes in future MCU films!* 😀
The coolest thing to come out of NXM we're secondary mutations imo. It was so good that the movies have been using it, giving Emma her diamond form and a flirting with the feline form for Beast. Also - wow Owen you're cute!
Morrison evolved X Men, then future writers devolved them and kept the X Men in that state. Hickman seems to be evolving all the species, humans, mutants, and machines
I think part of it is because the X-Men have been dealing with effects of House of M, prior to Hickman's run. The X-Men have been dealing with the almost extinction of mutants and preserving their race against those that would want them dead. So I get your point why it seems it look like writers seems to devolved them rather than the other way around. Also let us not forget the time when Marvel tried to replaced them with Inhumans because the film rights back then was not own my Marvel, so that may also add to the factor as well.
@@zemox2534 because Hickman's Krakoa started interesting, but fastly developed in something not that interesting that took away the spirit of the X-men and many of their villains.
Enjoyed the video and it’s clear that you love the run. But I’d love to know why you say it’s “impactful.” I’ve been reading X-men afterwards and other than Genosha and Jean’s death, nothing else seems to have mattered. Maybe Quentin’s intro but that kid isn’t really related to the cocky but less angry version we see today. Curious on your thoughts
I finished this run today and it was fantastic! The only thing I wish we got was a talk between Beast and Beak. Other than that it’s a solid solid run 💙
Thank you for creating this awesome video. Took me back to a happy place and time circa 2001 :) I recently left the X-Men at the end of HOX/POX run because the whole Krakoa nation storyline felt foreign and unrelatable. But with change and evolution themes you strongly pointed out from Grant's New X-Men, I realized that Jonathan H is doing the same now and it would be a great miss if I neglect and not give the new story and era a try. Thank you and again, greatly appreciate this amazing video. New X-Men is still my all time favorite run.
if you love Morrison's X men run then you'll love that Hickman is evolving everything that Morrison's themes were. Also I can highly recommend the new SWORD series by Al Ewing very forward thinking stuff.
@@ryangillego5232 also a good and fun resource to check out is the channel Comic Book Herald, they do a deep dive through each comic issue since House and Powers. There's a lot of good "meat" to chew on in the Hickman era so it helps.
The art reminds me of Jean Girard's more scribbly work on Moebius and the Harry Canyon segment in Heavy Metal which was based on the Moebius story The Long Tomorrow.
Far from save the X-Men, I'd say this run was where the series took a turn into the characters themselves being obsessed with the mutant identity instead of insisting mutants are no different from humans. It was a dream compared to the current direction, but I think Morrison got a bad snowball rolling
You know I would love to see Grant Morrison do other teams and reinvent them. Mainly The Titans and JSA. Both teams that are in sore need of fresh takes.
Jemas and Quesada went out of their way to sabotage Morrison's X-Men run. There were a few truly horrible artists assigned to New X-Men, early Van Sciver and Igor Kordey being the absolute worst on the series You'll notice , during the same period a terrible writer like Brian Bendis would consistently get assigned the artists he requested
To me that is an interesting statement. I realized that the majority of people agree with you, but for me his art work was a big turn off. I love Morrison's writing but I found the artwork to not be esthetically pleasing...
Ooo, can’t wait to watch this later. Maybe our tastes differ (and I’ll admit I didn’t read any of his run here), but in general I hate it when Grant Morrison writes characters I like.
yeah - this was very well produced but barely spoke about the key changes Morrison made like reintroducing the school element (predicting the alt-right teen on Quire) , bringing the Doom Patrol freak angst back into mutants, Emma and Beasts interesting reinventions, mutant culture being a hip marginalised culture etc What isn't really spoken about is how Peter Milligan was similarly reworking the X-mythos with X-Statics at the same time too
The only problem with his run was the inconsistency in art. Frank Quietly just couldn’t handle a monthly series. Igor Kordey was forced to make up so much of the run. There are so many different artists where the feel was so radical arc to arc. In retrospect…Salvador Larroca(who was doing Xtreme X Men) probably should have been the artist for Morrison since he could keep up.
Welp here’s to hoping we get a reprint of this run in omnibus format soon because like usual I’m left wanting to read the stories covered in these videos
I think it all speaks to Joe Quesadas run as Editor in chief. Marvel did some cool, risk taking stuff back then. Like 'nuff said month where all the xmen books had no voice or thought bubbles. The stories were told 100% through the artwork.
Xorn wasnt a student at Xavier's, he was an instructor. Beak, Angel, etc. were all his students and then became his de facto Brotherhood when he made his heel turn..
The mask Magneto is wearing resembles (in appearance) the face "Robot" wears in the Invincible comic. It might be the other way around, not sure when both were done but the "smile" in both is I think meant to be disconcerting.
Morrison: Writes one of the most beautiful speeches in all of comic books for Magneto post-mortem, builds up his sacrifice and Genosha as a monument of mutantkind, really makes Magneto the true noble leader he always was.' Also Morrison: "The sentimental message I left mankind upon my 'death' was actually a virus designed to cripple all electromagnetic technology" Like, CMON
This was the Run I got into in my Teens after Watching the 1st 2 X-men movies had came out in the 00s . I was into 80s & 90s X-men because of the 92 Cartoon. But with Morrison's New X-men I really enjoyed Frank Quietly & Igor Kordey's art in the Fantamex issues I read , also Phil Jimenez's Run of issues in New X-men. I was also reading Ultimate X-men at the same time in my teens . So by the time Whedon & Casaday I stopped reading X-men for a while off & on . But I like the new Characters that came out of this like Cassandra Nova , Xorn , Beak , Rover the Sentinel , Angel , Fantamex and Ava . I also like X-Statix around this time too . I am very Nostalgic about this Version of the X-men from the 2000s thanks Grant Morrison ☺️
Great video! Probably my favorite X-Men run. Just want to give my take on the Xorn/Magneto stuff since it's the most unpopular part of his run. Planet X really seems like Morrison saying to both the readers and the editors a big fat VILLAIN MAGNETO IS OUTDATED. The whole arc has characters saying not only "I prefer Xorn" in Erik's face, but also stating clearly that Magneto was better as a martyr figure, because could not live up to the expectations of his Brotherhood. In the Manifesto he talks about Proto-Xorn being Magneto from the start, but his tone is totally over the top an Xorn's story was completely different and vague. My theory is that he used that in the Manifesto to convince the editors to let him "kill" Magneto, and then years later they actually pushed him to do it and he just went "f*ck this, I'm going to make people see how lame is revamping Magneto to be a villain again" And considering that he never actually went back to his villainous roots after that, it worked!
Uh, yeah. Just long enough for Joss and the others to come along and literally return EVERYTHING to status quo, making Morrison's original pitch darkly hilarious.
Yeah, the only truly popular moment since (outside of the very beginning of Whedon's run) was the 12 issue HoX/PoX mini, and there was a drought before Morrison's New X-men as well... All told, the franchise has generally been in dire straights since the Image exodus. I like New X-men relative to most X-men since the 90s but that isn't saying a great deal.
Love your videos, man. I've watched a ton of them. Have you done one yet on the Age of Apocalypse? Can't seem to find it on your channel. Keep up the great work!
While I liked Morrison's run as a whole I won't lie when I say the last few issues after the Magneto reveal got a little sluggish to me. I personally preferred when it focused on the Xavier school. Overall a good run but those last few issues were that chewy part of the pork
Really didn't like this run. I read it and thought "Really? This is what people were clamoring about?" I found it incredibly underwhelming, and weirdly funny in ways that I'm not sure it was supposed to be.
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Can you do a video about Johnathan Hickman's Fantastic four or on his Avengers run?
I have some suggestions for you
Dan Slott’s Superior Spider-Man
Jonathan Hickman’s Fantastic Four
Maximum Carnage
He seeds his stories with so many ideas that writers can farm his work for story lines and characters for ages. His work has had tremendous influence on comics for both Marvel and DC far beyond what he's given credit for.
@SEZWAH Those creators were huge too. Mark Millar and Ed Brubaker also had a big hand in the creation of the current MCU. There are many working parts in the comic industry, so much inspiration coming together to bring these characters to life.
They, Grant Morrison came out as non binary
@@arthuredington6171 Zoinks!
@@CousinCreepyseems like an oddly disrespectful comment when you speak so highly of their work. its not like the whole message of every x men story boils down to identity tolerance or anything
@@bennett4789 Harrumph!
I’m assuming Emma’s mutation includes maintaining full psychic control over her costume at all times, cause bro, that is not how clothes do when faced with the physics of Earth.
Double-sided tape can be a girl's best friend. Hollywood red carpets are proof of that.
Funny enough, this has actually been explained. She psychically manipulates how others see her. So any zits, bad haircuts, costume issues, or injuries are essentially just ignored by those around her so that they only see what she wants them to.
In her old solo series that took place in her teens and early 20’s, we learned that she’s not even naturally blonde.
That was a funny joke the first time I read it years ago.
@@DanBrownPiercesdang
She’s telepathic. Not telekinetic.
I bought the omnibus basically blind a year or two ago, and really enjoyed it.
Oh no Dababy turned OmniMan into an OmniBus im literally shitting and pissing myself rn 😔😔
Same
New X-men 121 (the no-dialogue issue) is still my favorite single x issue of all time. Incredible job by Quitely and Morrison. And I loved Dautermann and Hickman's tribute to it.
I loved that Marvel did that. I think every issue that came out that month was silent, they were flexing. I'd love to see them do something like that nowadays
Holy shit did that whole issue have no dialogue? Just reread it and didn't notice it
All except one line (from Jean).
Its a classic and has been homaged in a much later book. It was the best “silent” issue that Marvel ran.
@@radioactivegaming7532 ah, Marvel's Nuff Said month. New Xmen made the best use of the concept. However, the PP, SPIDER-MAN issue was pretty entertaining as well.
The problem with these videos is they are going to make me want to read these comics, which I will never be able to find in store. The pains of not being a digital comic guy
Good tip the omnibus is quite easily to grab these days! Amazing stuff
@@batboy968 any places I should look? Its always out of stock on amazon.
@@dawsonmiller9474 Ebay is your best bet. Its really solid I highly recommend it.
I managed to pick it all up on eBay in one go for about £50 last year, you may be spending either a little more or a little less, but trust me, it's a great run
I picked up this whole run in paperback form a few years ago. It’s broken up into 3 editions. If you can’t find that the hard cover omnibus is pretty easy to find.
I just read this comic line like last year and its the reason Ive been reading comics again not just watching summary videos. Making stories relatable and character driven is what the xmen do best and everyone should follow that.
X gave it to them
R.I.P DMX
Really sad news, RIP DMX.
Here, Hear!
I would give anything to see a MCU trailer X-Men that has that song.
Owen Like Comics, Grant Morrison is one of my favorite comic book writers because he truly understands very well the concept of fiction (specially when it comes to superheroes), I would have love for Morrison to have written comic book runs about the Avengers, Fantastic Four, Legion of Super Heroes, Teen Titans, Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange, Aquaman, Shazam and Metamorpho The Element Man; those could have been also worth-reading jewels, but it's actually fine for Grant Morrison that he reitred, he already had fun writing amazing stories.
If it makes you feel better, he did a Shazam story on Earth-5 called "Thunderworld Adventures".
Most remarkable thing about New X-Men was Cyclops character shift. Made Cyclops to be my favorite Marvel hero. Him before Morrison was boring. The most interesting thing about him was being Jean Grey's boyfriend. After he become a badass. He (and Emma) made the team survive trought M-Day, Messiah Complex, he defeated Norman Osborn in Dark Reign. He was a true leader trought the darkest moment of their history. Of course until Brian Michael Bendis screw everything up.
and scott was the one that set-up the idea of utopia, the new mutant island/home.
I for one really enjoyed the rightclops arc
@@christopherroberts4682 i liked it to a point. like, the first 22 issues of the uncanny x men by bendis isn't bad. but there's a point in the last will and testament of professor x arc, that ruined the scott's character: at least to me.
Of all the new things introduced into this run, my undoubted favorite will always be FANTOMEX.
Thanks EVS! He also came up with Glob Herman during this period.
Grant Morrison is definitely one of my top 5 writers and Frank Quitely is a top 10 artists to me. This run was so freaking good! Especially when Quitely was drawing. X-Men have always been some of my favorite characters and had definitely been in a slump before Morrison took over. Very nice breakdown of the run. Great video!!
New X-Men is probably my second favourite X-Men run (behind Hickman's current take).
I first read it all last year and am slowly going through it again, it's such a good run
I never realized New X-men brought me back to the franchise. It had been years since i read an X-men comic. Picking up New X-men, i was interested in the art, which at the time, was vastly different from the usual X-comics. The storyline caught me up and the powerful Genosha scenes kept me invested( it was somewhat around 9/11 and reminded me of the event).
Same.
As always, amazing. I would really enjoy a half-an hour top ten Grant Morrison run/stories from you. I think it would be fantastic
Talking about ten of my favourite Morrison stories in only half an hour would be tricky. That video would probably be two hours long...
@@OwenLikesComics Let's do it a podcast then! Or pick your top 5
Anything Morrison touches is gold so I’m not surprised to hear this X-men run is standout, great video!!
I miss those awesome Frank Quitely costumes. I know they're not for everyone, but I thought they looked great and helped the characters stand out from your other typical superhero costume designs.
I dislike it because they are too similar, it makes the X-Men look militaristic and also gets rid of the meta reason behind the colorful costumes. The meta reason for the colorful costumes is essentially the same reason behind the pride flag. It is symbolic of multiple viewpoints and origins weaving together to have a more cohesive whole. I'm not saying they don't look good, I'm saying it doesn't work alongside the greater messaging and meta-narrative of the X-Men.
@@ElizaGWR Fair but you must understand the X-Men have always had similar costumes, especially in their debut. Obviously they've evolved, but I like the uniformity with looking unique and the militaristic look does work for me, but perhaps it isn't suited for the main X-Men team. Keep the X-Men as superhero mutants, and X-Force can have the militaristic look.
@@ProjektTakuThe New X-Men suits look a lot like the black leather outfits from the X-Men films. Perhaps Morrison wanted to capitalize on the success of the films and brought the film asthetic to the comics.
@@Bardim18 definitely. Interestingly enough, the Ultimate X-Men series did something similar as well. Personally, I can't understand why they still had them by the third movie, they were clearly uncomfortable and looked ridiculous.
It wasn't the costumes that bothered me. It was Quitely's art
These, Byrne's and Hickman's are my favorite runs on X-men of all time.
I always was conflicted about Morrison's run. On the one hand I loved a lot of the new characters introduced, many of whom became longtime members. However his big plotlines, especially the Xorn reveal, often felt contrived and a bit clunky and overly grimdark.
I strongly believe that Morrison never wanted to bring back Magneto, and was the editor who decided all Xorn's/Magneto stuff
@@alvarolopezrodriguez3255 probably why Morrison writes dc stuff so often, editors don’t really seem to mess with their stuff over there
@@alvarolopezrodriguez3255 no he stated that Xorn was always planned to be magneto. It was the editors who tried to change his mind cause they wanted to keep using magneto. That’s why xorn was retconned after Grant Morison left the book
@@AlanNoMoney Also Morrison didn't really get Magneto and they were dealing with heavy life stuff when he wrote that plot point. Magneto is not a straight up villain. Also while their writing was good, there are a lot missteps. Their run is a lot more controversial than some people believe it to be. For me there are ideas in their writing I like, secondary mutations, sublime, the U-Men, Weapon Plus, Fantomex, and the white hot room for example, and ideas I hated his lack of understanding of Magneto's character, the third Jean Grey/Phoenix retcon, putting Emma and Scott in a relationship as Emma deserves better than Scott, the costumes, how the X-Men treated Martha Johannson, the existence of the "special class" being for students not on par with the others as that is a bit ableist especially for the X-Men, the treatment of Jean Grey as a character, the slightly nihilistic tone, saying that a mental affair between a Scott and Emma doesn't count as cheating because it happened in the mindscape.
I guess the biggest problem is these character's weren't acting in character, they were acting as Morrison's versions of the characters, which isn't on its own a bad thing, it just creates a disconnect with many readers.
Yup
great vid, thanks for reminding me how good that run was! I first learned of Mr. Morrison with his incredible turn on the Doom Patrol (similarities to X-Men are well-documented) and this was some of his best work. I also enjoyed Joss Whedon's "Astonishing X-Men".
Ooh could we see an Astonishing X-Men video, or maybe a video on Age of Apocalypse, I think those are also two important periods for the title.
Yes I was thinking the same thing about Astonishing X-Men. Would love to watch a sequel video on that.
Yeah I just love the art from that run, Cassaday’s best work !!
Oh yeah! This era of X-men is totally fantastic! Lots of great memories! Definitely a very special piece of my teenage years! These comics were super amazing and I really loved stories like the weapon plus raid, the underground battle with Fantomex, Riot at Xavier’s and here comes Tomorrow! Totally incredible! I even wrote an article about it in my school paper and my teacher praised me for it! I have so many great memories about this series! Thanks a lot for this video! This run should be required reading for every single x-men fan!
This is an absolutely fantastic summary of the Morrison era; my goodness, what a great video! Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Morrison-Casey/Austin-Claremont era. XD
Great video as always! I would love if you dug deep on the Mike Carey x-men run. He's an unsung hero who held it down for years. It's crazy how much his time has influenced Hickman's run, almost as much as Morrison.
I had been reading comics here and there one single issue at a time since the 90’s when I was a child but New X-Men was the first “run” I collected and read as a complete series. This really made me love Marvel and X-Men specifically.
I'd given up on X-Men for quite a while, but Morrison brought me back to reading X-Men.
I enjoyed your recap. Thanks!
New X-men was super inspiring to me! I even wrote an article about it for my school Newspaper which I was a staff member of at the time. It was one of three main articles I did on different books. My English teacher had asked me to write about great things to read. So first I covered New X-Men, followed by Clifford the Big Red dog, and finally an article on Goosebumps by R L Stine.
Amazing video as always, would love to see you cover Ellis’ or Millar’s The Authority and/or Ennis’ or Orlando’s Midnighter eventually
The reason that the X-Men were aimless at the time was that from 1996-2001 the editorial staff over the X-Men kept changing what direction the X-men were supposed to go every two years. Had the X-Men not been so horribly mismanaged during that period of time, then it would not have been aimless. As far as what Grant Morrison did...he came in and spent the first 12 issues breaking all the toys. Which is all fine and good, but then he realized that he needed to continue writing for the series. I reread those and it is plain to see that after breaking all of the toys, he didn't know what to do. Slowly, over the course of his run, he wound up reverting to the X-Men style of writing that had worked for the past so many decades. From Chris Claremont in 1975 through to the collaboration between Fabian Nicieza (Vol 2) and Scott Lobdell (Uncanny) in1996, there is a twenty year period whereby the continuity was amazingly strong. You can't read that golden age and then read Grant Morrison's run and think that he is writing the X-Men. Grant Morrison was the first writer to try to make the X-Men something they weren't. It would have been far better to have given Grant Morrison the Ultimate X-Men and bring Fabian Nicieza back on board to helm both Uncanny and Vol. 2.
Afterwards we got the Weapon Plus storyline. Which was awesome and lead to Uncanny X Force which was amazing.
@@MatthewMedina-b7l Yeah, no. Go back and read the golden age of X-Men from 1975 - 1996. Then revise your opinion.
@@johnbrill7909emphasis on the word “opinion”. I can like both.
@@MatthewMedina-b7l Only if you don't care what they do to the characters and storylines.
I read these books when they were first released and I have SUCH good memories. Grant Morrison really did change the X-men--the book felt so different and so fresh. Especially compared to the other X-books out at the time.
I wonder what Grant Morrison makes of what Jonathan Hickman is doing with the X-Men currently since it's a direct follow up on Morrison's New X-Men run?
Here Comes Tomorrow was the best due Silvestri art.
A run I often go back to every once in a while. What I have liked about many of the X titles is that each writer puts their own stamp on it without moving away from the core essential elements that make the X-men who they are.
It's funny seeing New X-Men influence future X-Men motion pictures, while taking influence from the then newly released X-Men film
"X men last stand" Jean's death.🤔
ive been on a huge morrison kick. great content, brother!
Good choice. Thanks so much!
Another stellar video my guy
Morrison changed the X-Men forever and pave the way for future writers in the title. After Claremont, Morrison is my favorite X-Men writer. Can you make a video about Morrison's JLA run ?
I love his work on JLA! I still find material in that run that inspires me as a writer. 😃
Morrison change Cyclops. Stop. XD
Hells yeah, I love Patrick Willems! Great video as usual Owen.
Hearing Morrison's statements of "the X-Men have become cautious dogy retro" given Morrison's views on Magneto, and how Morrison wrote Magneto as a drug-adict terrorist (and not to Mention Morrison's opinions of how Magneto has always been an outdated man with retrograde ideas), Is so massively ironic.
Especially considering Magneto at one point was a teacher of the new mutants and tried to reform
It's one of the reasons I hate this run
Recently, I decided to check Grant Morrison's X-Men. Not only did their work save the X-Men, but they established concepts other writers like Jason Aaron would use, like Quentin Quire.
And Fantomex, the World, the Weapon Plus program, The Stepford Cuckoos, Xorn, Quentin Quire...so many ideas!
@@CousinCreepy Dark Beast came from the Age of Apocalypse storyline prior to Morrisons run
@@TheVetoSkreeemer acknowledged and adjusted!
@@CousinCreepy Take care
Another good one!
Thanks!
I still think this film has a really good feeling to it. The dark atmosphere fit nicely and everyone fit so well into their role. Plus the locations all felt very real and unique. It’s a shame how much had to get cut. Especially because nowadays audiences have shown they are willing to sit through a 3 hour superhero film.
Absolutely love this incredible run. The only black spot really was the filler issues with rushed art. I'm sure Igor Kordey is a great artist, but he got the short end of the stick filling in. He did my favorite run of the series too -- the introduction of Fantomex. Surprised you didn't mention him Owen! Otherwise great video!
I've been seeing your channel around for a while and I'm sure I've seen some of your other videos, but this is the one that got me to subscribe.
Great to hear, thank you!
"Now changing stereotyped portrayals of mutants on movies and T.V." I don't remember if New X-Men ever brought this up again, but I love this little world-building detail. I'm pretty morbidly curious about what a mutant stereotype would be
This was a great run on X-Men. I was a huge fan of Grant's JLA so I was really excited for this.
Lovely! I just recently finished this comic book run. It was my first foray into the X-Men characters, as someone who really hadn't seen the movies, just First Class, Wolverine Origins (I enjoyed this one as a kid...) and Logan. As a Bowie fan I was pretty happy with the use of Homo Superior (here's hoping they use Oh! You Pretty Things for the MCU.) It introduced me to characters I didn't know beforehand like Five-In-One, Fantomex and Xorn, all of which are new favourites. It also got me to appreciate characters like Emma Frost and Jean Grey, whos also definitely a new favourite.
Granted by the 3rd book it did take a turn I wasn't so sure about but in the end it all wrapped together pretty well and as someone who's just getting into comics it showed me that comic books don't necessarily adhere to the same storyline conventions that movies or televisions based on these do, they can jump around and get pretty silly, which I quite liked. Overall, definitely looking to read more X-Men in the near future.
I collected X-Men from 82-93 and then again for a few years when Morrison’s New X-Men started.
*I think I read the New X-Men comics before! Love the aesthetician and story elements of New X-Men! Grant Morrsion is a genius!:D Even Wolverine was modeled from his New X-Men counterpart in the awesome 2003 X2: Wolverine 's Revenge! I hope Kevin Fiege and the MCU film crew takes some inspiration and elements from both New X-Men and the Ultimate X-Men when they finally reboot, recast, reinvent, revitalize, and reintroduce Marvel 's X-Men, our beloved benevolent mutant superheroines and superheroes in future MCU films!* 😀
The coolest thing to come out of NXM we're secondary mutations imo. It was so good that the movies have been using it, giving Emma her diamond form and a flirting with the feline form for Beast.
Also - wow Owen you're cute!
Very nice video! I remember reading Morrison's New X-Men for the first time, and how refreshing it was to be excited about X-Men comics again.
Morrison evolved X Men, then future writers devolved them and kept the X Men in that state. Hickman seems to be evolving all the species, humans, mutants, and machines
I think part of it is because the X-Men have been dealing with effects of House of M, prior to Hickman's run. The X-Men have been dealing with the almost extinction of mutants and preserving their race against those that would want them dead. So I get your point why it seems it look like writers seems to devolved them rather than the other way around. Also let us not forget the time when Marvel tried to replaced them with Inhumans because the film rights back then was not own my Marvel, so that may also add to the factor as well.
And now Marvel are relaunching the team again, seemingly ignoring the Work Hickman did. The X men cannot catch a break.
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I don't think they're relaunching yet everything is still part of Hickman's plans for the characters
The Mutants were at their peak until AvX... Messiah Trilogy is wonderful, sadly AvX ruined all the buildup.
@@zemox2534 because Hickman's Krakoa started interesting, but fastly developed in something not that interesting that took away the spirit of the X-men and many of their villains.
Enjoyed the video and it’s clear that you love the run. But I’d love to know why you say it’s “impactful.” I’ve been reading X-men afterwards and other than Genosha and Jean’s death, nothing else seems to have mattered. Maybe Quentin’s intro but that kid isn’t really related to the cocky but less angry version we see today. Curious on your thoughts
Didn't it considerably affect the movies?
I finished this run today and it was fantastic! The only thing I wish we got was a talk between Beast and Beak. Other than that it’s a solid solid run 💙
Thank you for creating this awesome video. Took me back to a happy place and time circa 2001 :) I recently left the X-Men at the end of HOX/POX run because the whole Krakoa nation storyline felt foreign and unrelatable. But with change and evolution themes you strongly pointed out from Grant's New X-Men, I realized that Jonathan H is doing the same now and it would be a great miss if I neglect and not give the new story and era a try. Thank you and again, greatly appreciate this amazing video. New X-Men is still my all time favorite run.
if you love Morrison's X men run then you'll love that Hickman is evolving everything that Morrison's themes were. Also I can highly recommend the new SWORD series by Al Ewing very forward thinking stuff.
@@JTR_3 thank you for your kind advice, Jorge! I'll make sure to catch-up and will check the Sword series as recommended 👍🏾
@@ryangillego5232 also a good and fun resource to check out is the channel Comic Book Herald, they do a deep dive through each comic issue since House and Powers. There's a lot of good "meat" to chew on in the Hickman era so it helps.
Best comic book channel hands down
You're too kind!
Ok, now I’m excited
The art reminds me of Jean Girard's more scribbly work on Moebius and the Harry Canyon segment in Heavy Metal which was based on the Moebius story The Long Tomorrow.
Far from save the X-Men, I'd say this run was where the series took a turn into the characters themselves being obsessed with the mutant identity instead of insisting mutants are no different from humans. It was a dream compared to the current direction, but I think Morrison got a bad snowball rolling
Agreed 💯
You know I would love to see Grant Morrison do other teams and reinvent them. Mainly The Titans and JSA. Both teams that are in sore need of fresh takes.
Jemas and Quesada went out of their way to sabotage Morrison's X-Men run. There were a few truly horrible artists assigned to New X-Men, early Van Sciver and Igor Kordey being the absolute worst on the series
You'll notice , during the same period a terrible writer like Brian Bendis would consistently get assigned the artists he requested
loveloveLOVE The Morrison run/era of X-Men.
I actually just started reading New X-Men and gotta say I'm digging it.
Frank Quitely's artwork was a major factor in the success of New X-Men
To me that is an interesting statement. I realized that the majority of people agree with you, but for me his art work was a big turn off. I love Morrison's writing but I found the artwork to not be esthetically pleasing...
1:21 Jean. This brings back memories
(Gasps)Ooh,I love that/this run.
I love x men and Morrison is my favorite writer not just in comics but of all the I will read anything they write so this was made for me
Morrison: Criticises old X-Men comics for killing but not really killing characters.
Also Morrison: Kills Emma but doesn't really kill Emma 😅
Morrison isn’t as good of a writer as he thinks he is.
Yep. Clown shit.
Ooo, can’t wait to watch this later. Maybe our tastes differ (and I’ll admit I didn’t read any of his run here), but in general I hate it when Grant Morrison writes characters I like.
Still better that Hickman turn the X-Men into Inhumans.
yeah - this was very well produced but barely spoke about the key changes Morrison made like reintroducing the school element (predicting the alt-right teen on Quire) , bringing the Doom Patrol freak angst back into mutants, Emma and Beasts interesting reinventions, mutant culture being a hip marginalised culture etc What isn't really spoken about is how Peter Milligan was similarly reworking the X-mythos with X-Statics at the same time too
Grant is so weird, worked on so many things, brings great moments
The only problem with his run was the inconsistency in art. Frank Quietly just couldn’t handle a monthly series. Igor Kordey was forced to make up so much of the run. There are so many different artists where the feel was so radical arc to arc. In retrospect…Salvador Larroca(who was doing Xtreme X Men) probably should have been the artist for Morrison since he could keep up.
Can you do a video of the Hickman run? I know it’s still ongoing but I still love it
Welp here’s to hoping we get a reprint of this run in omnibus format soon because like usual I’m left wanting to read the stories covered in these videos
I think it all speaks to Joe Quesadas run as Editor in chief. Marvel did some cool, risk taking stuff back then.
Like 'nuff said month where all the xmen books had no voice or thought bubbles. The stories were told 100% through the artwork.
Xorn wasnt a student at Xavier's, he was an instructor. Beak, Angel, etc. were all his students and then became his de facto Brotherhood when he made his heel turn..
Loved it! Great stuff. Was that Patrick Willems??
It was!
Great over view!❤
Thank you!
Cool video, congratulations 🏅🎖🏆🏅🥇
The mask Magneto is wearing resembles (in appearance) the face "Robot" wears in the Invincible comic. It might be the other way around, not sure when both were done but the "smile" in both is I think meant to be disconcerting.
Morrison: Writes one of the most beautiful speeches in all of comic books for Magneto post-mortem, builds up his sacrifice and Genosha as a monument of mutantkind, really makes Magneto the true noble leader he always was.'
Also Morrison: "The sentimental message I left mankind upon my 'death' was actually a virus designed to cripple all electromagnetic technology"
Like, CMON
Also titled: How Frank Quietly gave every character cheekbones and man bulges.
I love this series almost as much as the series that follows it. It was a great read!
This was the Run I got into in my Teens after Watching the 1st 2 X-men movies had came out in the 00s . I was into 80s & 90s X-men because of the 92 Cartoon. But with Morrison's New X-men I really enjoyed Frank Quietly & Igor Kordey's art in the Fantamex issues I read , also Phil Jimenez's Run of issues in New X-men. I was also reading Ultimate X-men at the same time in my teens . So by the time Whedon & Casaday I stopped reading X-men for a while off & on . But I like the new Characters that came out of this like Cassandra Nova , Xorn , Beak , Rover the Sentinel , Angel , Fantamex and Ava . I also like X-Statix around this time too .
I am very Nostalgic about this Version of the X-men from the 2000s thanks Grant Morrison ☺️
Only Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine and Emma. XD
Have you read Peter David's run on the HULK? That'd be a great video
Great video! Probably my favorite X-Men run. Just want to give my take on the Xorn/Magneto stuff since it's the most unpopular part of his run.
Planet X really seems like Morrison saying to both the readers and the editors a big fat VILLAIN MAGNETO IS OUTDATED. The whole arc has characters saying not only "I prefer Xorn" in Erik's face, but also stating clearly that Magneto was better as a martyr figure, because could not live up to the expectations of his Brotherhood.
In the Manifesto he talks about Proto-Xorn being Magneto from the start, but his tone is totally over the top an Xorn's story was completely different and vague. My theory is that he used that in the Manifesto to convince the editors to let him "kill" Magneto, and then years later they actually pushed him to do it and he just went "f*ck this, I'm going to make people see how lame is revamping Magneto to be a villain again"
And considering that he never actually went back to his villainous roots after that, it worked!
magneto vilão depois de ter redenção é tipo uma facada nas costas
ahhh man so much 90s X=MEN beauties where shown on this vid
but anyway X-MEN will NEVER Die
it doesn't matter how much Lord MAGNETO Welcomed to Die
I’ve been meaning to read new x men for the longest time it just always seems to get caught up in the mess that is my life
Uh, yeah. Just long enough for Joss and the others to come along and literally return EVERYTHING to status quo, making Morrison's original pitch darkly hilarious.
Love the content
Thank you!
That series was straight 🔥.
Less like the Morrison run "saved the X-Men and more like it was the X-Men's last gasp.
Yeah, the only truly popular moment since (outside of the very beginning of Whedon's run) was the 12 issue HoX/PoX mini, and there was a drought before Morrison's New X-men as well... All told, the franchise has generally been in dire straights since the Image exodus. I like New X-men relative to most X-men since the 90s but that isn't saying a great deal.
Love your videos, man. I've watched a ton of them. Have you done one yet on the Age of Apocalypse? Can't seem to find it on your channel. Keep up the great work!
Not yet, but it's certainly an interesting idea.
Owen Likes Comics one of my favorite X-men stories. Would be a great addition to the channel. Appreciate what you do, man. Keep it up!
IM SO EXCITED
A strange and interesting run, indeed!
While I liked Morrison's run as a whole I won't lie when I say the last few issues after the Magneto reveal got a little sluggish to me. I personally preferred when it focused on the Xavier school.
Overall a good run but those last few issues were that chewy part of the pork
which Scottish bands records should I listen to while reading Morrison's groundbreaking run?
now we just need John Bryan's Fantastic four and how he saved that team
Definitely in my top 3 Fantastic Four runs!
Really didn't like this run. I read it and thought "Really? This is what people were clamoring about?"
I found it incredibly underwhelming, and weirdly funny in ways that I'm not sure it was supposed to be.
I’ve always been conflicted about new X-men, I love the story but the art has always been weird to me
It's a head scratcher. I mean, the story is great but the art looks like garbage. Very unsettling.
What happened to the other X-Men like Iceman, Kitty, Rouge, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Storm during this time.
A lot of those characters were featured in Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men book, as far as I'm aware (it's not a series I've read much of, admittedly).