@@femboyfoxfurry2603the bolt is rather unreliable, where as the Prius Prime is extremely reliable. Kind of a big deal. I could still see someone getting the bolt as a commuter, knowing it probably won't last. But it's hardly a shoe in.
I paid a markup (ADM) for a hard to get sports car because I wanted it - and justified the expense based on personal enjoyment (psychic rewards). I agree that the Prius Prime is a better choice than a full EV, but anyone making a purchase decision based on price alone is fooling themselves. Car buying is more likely an emotional decision.
As an owner of a full EV, I believe they will be the future of cars (15-20 years from now). Having said that, today they have many limitations that will not make them ideal for many people, especially if you live without easy access to level 2 charging. That’s why plug-in hybrids (especially Toyota’s) are the perfect solution for a lot of people. They offer enough range for a daily commute without using gas, but can also switch to gas on longer drives. The smaller battery also means they can be charged with a 110 v outlet overnight. The only problem I have as stated in the video is that Toyota makes a very limited amount of them, which can lead to very long wait times or crazy dealer markups (which negates the money saved by going electric). I honestly believe the RAV 4 prime is the perfect vehicle (PHEV, AWD, lots of storage, fast for a SUV, etc.), again the only problem is that Toyota only builds a very small amount each year, about 20,000 worldwide when the company sells almost 10,000,000 other cars and trucks.
We received our 2024 Prius Prime in March, after a 21 month wait. Six months later and after 8,600+ Km (5,375+ miles), our second tank of gas (first one was on the dealer), has run-out. Six months on two fill-ups ! And, the car has been flawless. We run on battery over 95% of the time. This car has it all; fantastic looks, World leading economy and, leading quality. It also can hit 60 in under 6.5. Toyota has a clear winner here. I really don't think they are purposely limiting production of the Prius. Our last three years have been fraught with problem after problem, COVID, chip shortages, etc. , the list goes on. Toyota is struggling to match demand. After waiting 21 months (we ordered a 2022 model), the day we collected our new 2024 car, the salesperson told us "if you were to order this car today, the wait would be three years. Poor Toyota.
Subscribed- you do a great job logically explaining things while driving and accenting your points with a look into the camera! Keep up the great work, and please don't crash. :)
I had a new 2018 Prius and loved it. I moved to Maine and 3 times the exhaust pipe clogged with ice to the point the car would not run. This was due to condensation sitting in the low part of the exhaust pipe. Toyota wanted $2,200 for a possibe fix andd would not admit to a design flaw. I traded it in for a gas powered Rav 4. I have pictures of the ice.
Great and informative video. I was trying to decide between the Prius plug-in hybrid and the Polestar 2 but after this video the Prius makes much more sense . Here in Ireland the availability isn’t bad too
Oh buddy, I'd so love to be able to take our 2024 Prime over to Ireland for a spin on those roads. Glad to hear your wait times are reasonable. We ordered a 2022, 21 months later a 2024 show's-up.
Great review. This car is amazing to drive and the visibility of the instrument panel is clear and easy to see for myself and my wife. We have the digital rear view mirror and therefore have no real issues with the rear view other than adapting to a new technology
My wife and I went to look at the Prime model for the first time last Saturday and drove home in it. I don’t understand why folks are saying you have to wait years to get one.
Bravo for being one of the few folks on RUclips that understands why a PHEV with 40-50 mile range is better than a pure EV. The average American drives 37 miles apparently (per day). The average Tesla owner that plugs in every night is WASTING 260 miles of battery capacity EVERYDAY (assuming the range is 300 miles). A total waste of money, resources, etc. If all that wasted battery capacity could be retargeted at SMART cars like this Prius Prime, the world would be much better off. It's a crime, really. My Prius Prime is on a boat from Japan (I have the VIN:-) and will hopefully take delivery in a few weeks. I can buy any car I want and I choose this car for trolling around Maryland/DC. Will rarely use gas and won't have range anxiety when I visit my son in Pittsburgh. Toyota knows their stuff and I commend them for not following Musk.
@@carhelpcorner- The most important point is that plug-in hybrid vehicles are the stepping stone to the future of transitioning to fully electric vehicles..... Right now there's not enough electricity available for charging all cars and the time it would take to do this, even if it were available, would frustrate a lot of people. Not everyone can charge at home. It's a very unlevel playing field. The only way to convince people to consider all electric would be to slowly convince them that they are saving money.
I would agree if the Prius Prime was 1/10 or even 1/2 of the price of a model 3. Instead, it's almost as expensive with less features and harder to buy. Toyota and their dealers just got too greedy.
That just show you how much Toyota is overcharging you for 1/5 the size of BEV capacity. If Toyota can make Prius at $15 to $20k, I believe they will destroy Tesla But no, they have to price Prius at cost with Model 3 for no good reason
I wanted to buy a 2023 Prius Prime, but our local dealership wouldn't even take an order for one. They said they only get what the factory pre-allocates to them, and they only get one to two per YEAR. I live in Tennessee... so it really wasn't an option. And, even ignoring the unavailability, the dealership wanted a $500 deposit and a large markup (several thousand dollars) just to reserve the next one that would show up someday. So I opted for a used 2021 Prius Prime that CarMax was willing to ship here. I wish I had the longer EV range of the 2023 model, but the 2021 model has been great so far (had it about a month now).
Car dealerships need to die. They offer no value. This is why Tesla is doing so well. I just ordered a Tesla Model Y Long Range, which I'll be picking up Saturday. No salesman trying to sell me "undercoating". No ridiculous dealer markups. No hard sell. The manufacturer says the car costs X, I pay X, I get the car. The 2023 Prius Prime looks awesome! I'd have a few tiny complaints, but depending on your commute, you might be able to get 1,000 miles or more per fill up. We also have a Mini Countryman PHEV in our family, which only gets 17 miles of EV range and even with that little range, it's not uncommon for me to get 700 miles per fillup. Twice, I got 800 miles.
I started my search for a 2023 black Prius about 6 months ago. Two weeks ago I found a black 2024 Prius Prime with a special lease deal of $4500 discount from Toyota plus the dealer gave me $1k discount as well! Love the car... My four old cars are all 15mpg V8 vehicles. Just got my charging working so I'm a very happy camper. Toyota just delivers a large number of Prius's and other models, so if you are looking to buy or lease a Toyota check again, I was floored to get mine at $5500 below MSRP!!!
The full EVs are a few years / decade off from being where they need to be in terms of price / performance / charger saturation for the masses. My opinion. By then a lot of things will have changed. So who knows.
2024 ❤ PRIUS PRIME OWNER , 3 months old 3400 miles . Fun to drive on highways, the power truly is amazing . I have found it has increased and is faster now ! The Q charger needs a recall , due to poor design-stops charging when the phone slides over . Magnet and plate can remedy this . Paint Quality is awesome, thickness is better than the average. I was fortunate to buy the day I test drove . Definitely expect to pay more , it’s worth the pleasure of driving a fun vehicle.
Absolutely .. bought my 2007 Prius 3 years ago .. driving it in Hong Kong … no problem at all … previous owner had replaced the big battery … really my best car ever … used or new over the last 50 years … very roomy for a smaller car .. very comfortable even compared to Lexus 400 which I used to drive for a number of years in US … haven’t driven an E-car .. thinking it might be a hassle about charging it
The charging is a hassle if you do not have an at home charger. Not enough and even fast chargers take an hour. Also the range on all EV is not good. The high end is for city driving while low range is hwy driving. I drove for 1 hour in a fully charged battery and was almost out of charge by the end of it with a short road trip.
Great video! I have a third generation Toyota Prius and it has over 210,000 miles currently. I live upstate New York and winters here could be brutal. AllI wheel drive definitely be an option for me. I will wait a couple of years when they become offf lease and used.
I agree the Prius Prime, especially the base model, gets a long range and great MPG 50 + and much better than a pure electric vehicle with no range anxiety. There is one issue that needs to be addressed. They are impossible to find especially at MSRP!!!!!!
@@comment6864 Yup, toyota is obviously throttling production, this level of hybrid is cool now. The prius used to be a joke in 2007. Now its a happy medium between people who dont care for full EV, but dont wanna spend tons on gas money.
What rang anxiety? Are you talking about? EV owners don’t have anxiety because they’re smart enough to know where the charge stations are in charge at home that’s just excuses that people that love ice engines make but you’re gonna have gas anxiety when prices reach six dollars to seven dollars to eight dollars a gallon within the next few years you’re 50 miles plus a gallon don’t do shit thenwho wants to pay like 100 bucks to fill up a car and a $700 car payment only a dumbass would
This is the catch 22 of PHEV. Too much manufacturing complexity, in addition to the complexity of a normal hybrid you're now adding a charging port, bigger battery system and an on-board charger. Toyota just sees these vehicles as a headache, I think at this point they'd rather make Full EV models than make PHEV.
I agree with many of the reasons expressed in the video and they are the ones that led me to the decision to buy a 2024 Toyota Prius instead of an electric car. Then a question: how can it be that there in the US and Canada the wait to get this new Prius is several months? Here in Italy I was able to have it after a couple of months from the order, despite the naval traffic troubles during the shipment from Japan to Europe in the Red Sea due to the Houthi attacks.
It can't fast charge. It's inferior in a crash to a Tesla Model 3, it's cost of ownership including maintenance is going to be significantly higher than a Model 3, and you're going to be burning a lot of gasoline if you take any kind of Road trip. In what way does that make it Superior to a Tesla Model 3?
I love my EV... a 1st generation Leaf... but it is getting up there in years and it may be time to get a new car... I have driven a friend's 3rd gen prius in the past... but was very ahhhhhh... blah... no thanks... but this new seems more attractive all around... now just to see if there is enough space in the back for my dogs... I suspect not... hmmmmm...
We were lucky to pick a 2023 Prius Prime XSE in Pearl white with a glass roof. It is simply stunning, So far we drove 150K on electric power EV Mode only in 3 days since we got it. We love it!
I currently own a 2010 Prius, and I love it. Yes, it’s boring, but it matches my personality. I need to buy a second car, and I have been researching electric cars. It increasingly appears to me that plug-in hybrids may be the better choice for all the reasons stated in the video. The only reason I am hesitating: I promised my daughter that we would buy a car with rear air vents. Prius doesn’t have them. Here in the Texas summers, rare air vents are really not a luxury.
I know I might be rly late with that but maybe it will be helpful for someone here. I'm currently renting out that 2024 prius while wating for my reservation to buy 2024 LE trim. And let me tell you, the difference between 19-inch wheels and 17-inch ones is FREEKING BIG in case of ride quality, smootheness and ease of driving. The person who's renting out me the car let me drive 19 inch wheels XSE Prime for like 10 days, and then I swapped it to 17 inch wheels SE Prime and that was a bliss! The small wheels made me feel so good and And everything finally fell into place! 19-inch wheels made me feel like the car is WAY MORE heavy, hard to turn the steering wheel and it's like there was more struggling for the car with that big wheels to accelerate as if I had +300 LBs more (felt like that, I know it's not the case tho). The elephant in the room is the MPG was so bad with those big wheels I was complaining all the time during those 10 days. So you might consider the choice of the trims carefully according to your preferences. If you can test drive/rent the different trims before buying I would definetly do that, cuz in my case that was a big deal. After all the LE/SE versions have everyithing you need, and those bells and whistles are not the game changers that's for sure. Cheers!
We have a 2024 Prime SE with the 17's. Far, superior to the 19's in every way. You are completely correct. In EV Mode, I can squeeze very close to 100 Km on battery in summer temperatures. And, it's faster than the higher trim levels to boot. A rare thing in the automotive World where the base trim is better than the Premium offerings. I'd like to have a "go" with an LE model, as it is even more base than the SE as far as I can see. Might exceed our economy even. Enjoy yours when it lands.
I bought one in July and love it. I like the steering wheel low so that was not an issue I see the cluster just fine. The rear visibility does suck so I’ve just learned to adapt and be more attentive to traffic. Not hard as I’ve been riding motorcycles every Summer for 2 decades. I have multiple vehicles and I bought it as a work and small errands commuter. It is a fine tool that drives great, has surprisingly good get up, and turns a few heads. Love my Prius prime 😁
Outstanding video review! 👍. The #1 Topgun PHEV sedan in the world. So awesome it’s a functional hatchback. However 80% of new vehicles sold are SUV’s and trucks now. Full EV’s suck! Toyota has new battery technology out in a couple of years providing a range of 1,000 miles and 10 minutes charging time. I’ll wait. ⏰ Sadly Toyota is known as the best automobile manufacturer, but can’t deliver anything with timelines measured in years. Essentially it’s vapourware. 😢. Best to review products we can actually buy. 😊
I live 30 min out from Cheyenne WY on a ploy of land. Only thing stopping me from getting this thing is due to ground clearance with dirt roads and huge snow mound that blow up on the dirt roads I say Toyota makes a TRD version with a 2inch lift😮💨😂
I'm sure it is a great car . The problem is you can't get one , customers need to wait for couple years to get one if they are lucky . And the dealerships mark up the price , at least few thousands dollar over the MSRP .
Simple. Dealer puts 100km on it and sells it as used. Happening everywhere and OMVIC does nothing about it.Charge whatever they want for a used car. @@billyrock8305
My Chevy volt will go up to 70 miles on battery before switching to fuel.. (usually 60 or so) the 44 on the prime seems a bit short. I so wish Chevy hadn't discontinued it.
i don't know about your local market but where i am from, the plugin version of the Prius costs more than the cheapest comprable EV. also, even in the ideal world where i was somehow able to get unlimited days off work whenever i wanted to, i would still only take 1 trip beyond the range of most modern EVs a month.
I have a 2014 Toyota Prius and I bought it and they insurance auction. I paid $4200 and spend 10,000 no $1000 to fix it and I love it no no went overseas for six months and did not have my neighbor to drive it once a week, therefore when I came back the battery was dead and the dealership told me to replace the hybrid battery for $4300 here in Atlanta. I searched around and found out a company a third-party company called hybrid battery 911 they came to install it for $1700 only and they are mobile, so far it is great! I am happy with their policy and warranty for life for $20 per month fee. So I’m very very happy so far I also have a 2010 Toyota sienna which uses so much gas comparing to the Prius so I am parking it at my backyard. I also do a lot of work in my remodeling. So I am planning to install a hitch for a trailer so I can haul branches and junk to the dump yard once in a while and that’s my plan again I love my 2014 Toyota Prius 10 gallons every time and it gives me 585 miles.
A few years ago I cross shopped the Prius/Prius Prime with the Chevy Volt. As much as I trust the Toyota name more than Chevy, the vehicle simply was barely driveable. Horrendous acceleration and noisy drivetrain did not promote confidence or comfort when driving in traffic. On the other hand, the Volt was zippy and whisper quiet. It didn't help that the Prius was one of the ugliest vehicles every created. Needles to say, the Volt won hands down. Well, it looks like the Prius Prime has arrived to take the mantle from the now discontinued Volt to check all those boxes. It has the looks, the performance, driving experience. And unlike the Volt (which is merely average in this regard) the Prius has a loooooong track record of reliability.
I was really hot to buy a 2nd generation Volt. They look great and have fantastic EV mileage for a PHEV. I got spooked though after reading owners forums and Volt Facebook groups with all the failed BECMs that had stranded owners especially during the pandemic with no available replacements for crazy long periods of time. The the shift to park issue was another issue. I was close to buying but in the end chickened out due to these issues. Instead I bought a 2015 Prius and so far love it. I am sure I would have loved the Volt too unless the BECM failed. I hope you have had good look with yours, it sounds like you have based on your positive review
You mentioned that a consumer can order one and wait a while to receive it. This would be great if you are particular about the color of the vehicle. How does one do this? What dealership helps do this for a consumer. The Toyota dealer we visited didn’t mention this as a possibility. Thank you for the review.
Just go to a dealership and tell them you’ll like to place an order on one. U can even build your Prius online and it will be sent to your dealer you choose and they will call
I got a 2023 Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you or anyone reading this could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
The Prius Prime will be the fourth Prius we have owned. They have all been exceptionally reliable vehicles. While we wait for our new Prius Prime, our 2014 Prius still has a blue book value of over $15,000. That’s not bad for a nine year old vehicle. The point about Prius Primes being hard to find is valid. Unless one lives in a CARB state, the Prime is virtually impossible to find locally. We had to go out of state to find ours. Often one finds a Prime purchase out of state with a significant cost above MSRP. Fortunately, we found a dealer within 275 miles that does not sell above MSRP. The Prius Prime that we have put a deposit on will not arrive for two months. But that’s worth the wait!
That point is actually one of the false narratives that Japan likes to promote. The main reason being that once a battery is mined it can be essentially recycled about 10 times before losing ~ 50% of its lithium salts and any NMC rare metals. If you look at CO2 emissions from just a 10 year standpoint it seems great because 10 PHEVs would burn less gas and than 9 pure ICE and 1 BEV. But if you look at it over 50 years or a century then the BEV wins in sustainability - a lot less repairs, no motor oil to recycle, and very minimal carbon output during operation if the grid cleans up - and yes the grid cleaning up is an integral component. A temporary solution would be like pulling up a plane to gain temporary altitude only to result in an aerodynamic stall right afterwards. The only way to create a real inflection point in CO2 emissions is to start the development of a feedback loop for batteries and clean grid energy. PHEVs usually tend to interfere with this process - especially now as people are keeping their vehicles well past a decade. The reasonable thing to do is for people to stop buying large SUVs when they don't really utilize the cabin space/load capacity, use PHEVs in cases where towing or long trips are under time constraint (taxi) and buy BEVs when the time comes to replace an aging ICE engine. A BEV isn't going to work for everyone, but for 85-90% of people it will solve their daily requirements with a once or twice a year outlier where a plane or ICE rental should be used. People buying 9 seat 3 row SUVs because they picked up a 75" TV once at IKEA but routinely commute to work as a single occupant need to be focused on.
Why is Tesla model 3 better than the Prius prime. 1) cheaper after federal credit. 2) triggers let's go Brandon (aka PedoPete) 3) more luxurious. 4) prestige. 5) Tesla operating system. 6) faster. 7) quicker. 8) more interior space. 9) more trunk & frunk space. 10) higher resale value. 11). Less wear and tear on brakes. 12) no dealer markup. 13) Tesla mobile service. 14) remote control of Tesla via phone app. 15) service station equipped to service electric vehicles. 16) no car salesman 🤡 to deal with. 17) software updates. 18) sentry mode cameras. 19) no gas. 20) no oil & filter change 21) no transmission fluid change. 22) no radiator fluid change. 23) no serpentine belt change. 24) no engine parts to change (water pump, starter, alternator, etc.). 25) readily available
I just bought this car - Prius Prime XSE. What's said here is very acurate. I love having a car that I can run most of the time as a full EV, but still has a gas engine that allow me to not worry about running out of (electric) power, and gives me a terrific overall range (over 500 miles!). Definitely still pricey, and selling for a primium over the MSRP (mine was an extra $3k), with a 2 month wait (longer had I not managed to pick up a PP that someone else had ordered and then back out of).
I got a Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
@@ecealgan Hey there, The heat you feel on the drivers side rear quarter is completely normal as is the noise you hear. Charging your 13.6Kwh battery creates heat that must be dissipated away from the battery. A fan blows air over the battery towards the rear drivers side. In the winter, a heater keeps the battery warm while charging. Great cars, we love our 24 Prime.
Hybrid system net power: 220 hp.... Meanwhile, for 50k, you can get an electric Hyundai with 640 horsepower that costs far less to maintain and its "fuel" is actually much cheaper, when you charge at home. It is also more reliable with far fewer moving parts, more durable, more practical etc. Hybrids have a higher chance of explosion or combustion than BEVs. The presenter gives a false impression which is not realistic at all.... Prius Prime is slow, with only 220 horsepower.
Nothing matters unless you can get these cars for MSRP, which is almost impossible these days. Toyota dealers are tarnishing the reputation of Toyota😢.
Thank you for the review. I have a Lexus ct 200h and my wife drives a Lexus ES 300h. We love our hybrid cars. My next car would definitely be a Prius prime, not an EV.
They general negatives stated for EV’s don’t apply to Teslas though. Teslas enjoy the flawless Supercharger network with incredibly plentiful, ultra reliable stations available in convenient locations. Teslas have proven themselves to be exceptionally reliable and are on track to outsell many brands now. Most people don’t keep cars for 10 years but Tesla includes 8 year 100,000 or 150,000 mile battery, motor and drivetrain warranty. The Prius is a cute little car and if you have never owned a Tesla it may be an option. I actually considered buying one but after owning and driving Teslas the Prius lack of power and performance is a deal killer.
@@RoyalCrane I think you need to reconsider you way of thinking.. The average age of the 286 million cars is 12.5 years how many Teslas are sold any given years?
@@absolutium I don’t know what you are trying to say? Still virtually no one keeps the same car for 10 years, not sure what or why you are arguing with a fact. It doesn’t matter the number of cars on the road, it doesn’t change anything. Tesla is on track to sell close to 2 million cars this year to answer your question
In life, if there's one thing I've come to believe in, it's to always have a backup plan or plan B. So It becomes a no brainer, then, to see the merits of a plug-in hybrid. Besides, I'm still concerned about the resale value of an EV with a battery nearing the end of its warranty period. Because lithium-based batteries are expensive, represent a disproportionately large share of the value of the car, and can't be fixed (requires replacement).
I currently have a Prius 2024. Electric gets most of my driving done and having that Hybrid engine is wonderful. There was no mark up from the dealer I bought it from but I did have to wait two months (which is, shorter than most other folks had to wait).
I have a 2007 and a 2014 Prius and they are great. The 7 has over 300k and the 14 has 200k. If I speed 1200 a year in maintenance and tires I would be surprised.
True the public charging network sucks...but that is absolutely not the case for the tesla charging network ..I have been driving a model 3 for 80000 miles with no Maintenance or issues . I drive 3000 miles a month and it costs me $100 to charge it at home ..
I've driven my 2017 Prius Prime Advance for 5 years. Most days and many months I get between 100 and 200 MPG. (The max read-out is 199.99.) If I might exceed the battery range, I switch to HV mode on the highway or when I don't have enough charge to reach my destination. The electric motor is more efficient at low speeds. Once I get near my destination (where I can charge), within the range of the remaining charge I switch back to EV mode. Not draining the battery to "empty" (30%) is better the life of the physical battery. Great video. The 2017 is nowhere near as bad a you imply. The look, handling, and acceleration are all excelent.
I always thought the Prius was a sissy car, but now with the redesign and power increase, Im really considering purchasing this car. Petrol costs are through the roof sucks and the maintenance for out-of-warranty European vehicles is simply a joke. If I can get past all the cheap plastic I may get this car by the middle of next year?
More Reasons - Toyota Reliablity & Quality control are tops. Toyota service is usually tops. If you are concerned about CO2 - you can make 8 Prius's with the same limited production lithium for every Model Y; yet the Prius will do a 44 mile commute all electric; so 8 Prius hybrids save a lot more CO2 then 1 Y; the Prius also uses less CO2 to build. Full EVs lithium pigs should be banned for this reason. Range anxiety= time anxiety. A Full EV stops within 300 miles of highway driving at 70mph, the Tesla Model 3 LR needs to charge near 1 hour. A 600 mile trip adds 2 hours. The Prius arriving in
The problem with my 2023 Prius is that at 42,000 miles, my gas mileage has gone from 53 mpg to 40. I have a sneaking suspicion that my hybrid battery is already dying.
My Nissan leaf goes 100-110 converted miles per gallon (about 4.5 miles per kwh). Why did people buy Prius before? MPGs as simple as that. EVs get better MPGs therefore Prius is obsolete. Thank you
"unlike an ev where you are constantly worried about range" dude clearly doesn't have an EV. he said it himself - he never needed to use the fuel. used the EV range on the prius for everything. what he didn't say was this. YOU CANT FIND THE PRIUS PRIME. toyota makes fewer primes than a startup EV company. its a joke Toyota had their chance to rule the EV market and blew it. the prius stunk for 20 years and finally released a good prius
TBH, this car has two major flaws - availability and Tesla Model 3 LR - I know Model 3 is pure EV and has incredibly stupid controls for basic functions like blinkers, shifting etc. and possible problems with quality control. I really like the new Prius PHEV, but I would not be surprise if most of the potential drives would choose Tesla instead.
We ordered a 2022 Prius 16 months ago. It's still not here and is probably at least three more months away. If it ever shows-up, it will be a 2024 model. We're expected to eat the increased cost. Jeez. Around here, all the other manufacturer's lots are flush with cars, how is this company still in business. My wife had to point out to the sales person that the Prime was a plug-in. He did not know the difference between a hybrid and a PHEV. Seriously. Does anybody know, what sort of receptible do we need to install outside to charge the car with 220 volt current. The plug on the feed end of the charge cord I was shown is a regular type (115 volt) plug. You can't find a 220 volt box that allows a normal three prong to plug into it. Toyota and the sales people have no answers. WTF.
I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 2023 Prime xse premium (coming from a 2015 Prius 3). I've had it for a couple months now and with my round trip commute only being about 20 miles a day, it's perfect for my daily use, but if I want to take off and go to Vegas for the weekend, that's not a problem either. Over 2000 miles on the car and I've only put two tanks of gas in so far to the tune of about 14 gallons. I have nothing but good things to say about it, and I enjoy getting behind the wheel every day.
I got a 2023 Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
Range anxiety on electric véhicules is a psychological and pure human disease. Technologically this doesn’t exists and is just a psychological myth. I had this disease before, until I tried a EV in a 800Kms road trip, and this healed my range anxiety issue completely.
Forget it. Just go full EV and be done. Get a Model Y RWD and save heaps of $$$ over the lifetime. Much better driving, better equipment, and way more space too.
Good for single car home. For two car home, EV as one, Prius (or traditional fuel car) for second best. 90% of travel can be done w EV. Perfect for our family. Sorry, but Toyota a late adopter of full EV’s. It’s a shame.
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I think that the new prius is a sensible purchase, unless the buyer has to pay a markup. NEVER do that.
I feel like the Prius especially the prime is already unreasonable at its price point when the Bolt is $27k
@@femboyfoxfurry2603the bolt?? 😂
@@femboyfoxfurry2603the bolt is rather unreliable, where as the Prius Prime is extremely reliable. Kind of a big deal.
I could still see someone getting the bolt as a commuter, knowing it probably won't last. But it's hardly a shoe in.
I paid a markup (ADM) for a hard to get sports car because I wanted it - and justified the expense based on personal enjoyment (psychic rewards). I agree that the Prius Prime is a better choice than a full EV, but anyone making a purchase decision based on price alone is fooling themselves. Car buying is more likely an emotional decision.
Toyotas are reaible but rusting as cookies after 3 years and salt from winter
As an owner of a full EV, I believe they will be the future of cars (15-20 years from now). Having said that, today they have many limitations that will not make them ideal for many people, especially if you live without easy access to level 2 charging. That’s why plug-in hybrids (especially Toyota’s) are the perfect solution for a lot of people. They offer enough range for a daily commute without using gas, but can also switch to gas on longer drives. The smaller battery also means they can be charged with a 110 v outlet overnight. The only problem I have as stated in the video is that Toyota makes a very limited amount of them, which can lead to very long wait times or crazy dealer markups (which negates the money saved by going electric). I honestly believe the RAV 4 prime is the perfect vehicle (PHEV, AWD, lots of storage, fast for a SUV, etc.), again the only problem is that Toyota only builds a very small amount each year, about 20,000 worldwide when the company sells almost 10,000,000 other cars and trucks.
Did you buy a EV to virtue signal about Climate Change?
Ty for making me feel good about my Rav4 Prime purchase 😀
You're delusional
We received our 2024 Prius Prime in March, after a 21 month wait. Six months later and after 8,600+ Km (5,375+ miles), our second tank of gas (first one was on the dealer), has run-out. Six months on two fill-ups ! And, the car has been flawless. We run on battery over 95% of the time.
This car has it all; fantastic looks, World leading economy and, leading quality. It also can hit 60 in under 6.5. Toyota has a clear winner here. I really don't think they are purposely limiting production of the Prius. Our last three years have been fraught with problem after problem, COVID, chip shortages, etc. , the list goes on. Toyota is struggling to match demand.
After waiting 21 months (we ordered a 2022 model), the day we collected our new 2024 car, the salesperson told us "if you were to order this car today, the wait would be three years. Poor Toyota.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gmYou don’t save anything when you factor the ludicrous cost of insurance for EV. Not to mention a battery replacement is north of 10K.
Subscribed- you do a great job logically explaining things while driving and accenting your points with a look into the camera! Keep up the great work, and please don't crash. :)
I had a new 2018 Prius and loved it. I moved to Maine and 3 times the exhaust pipe clogged with ice to the point the car would not run. This was due to condensation sitting in the low part of the exhaust pipe. Toyota wanted $2,200 for a possibe fix andd would not admit to a design flaw. I traded it in for a gas powered Rav 4. I have pictures of the ice.
Great and informative video. I was trying to decide between the Prius plug-in hybrid and the Polestar 2 but after this video the Prius makes much more sense . Here in Ireland the availability isn’t bad too
Oh buddy,
I'd so love to be able to take our 2024 Prime over to Ireland for a spin on those roads.
Glad to hear your wait times are reasonable. We ordered a 2022, 21 months later a 2024 show's-up.
Great review. This car is amazing to drive and the visibility of the instrument panel is clear and easy to see for myself and my wife. We have the digital rear view mirror and therefore have no real issues with the rear view other than adapting to a new technology
Just try to buy one! I can buy a Tesla tomorrow.
Fair point!
My wife and I went to look at the Prime model for the first time last Saturday and drove home in it. I don’t understand why folks are saying you have to wait years to get one.
Bravo for being one of the few folks on RUclips that understands why a PHEV with 40-50 mile range is better than a pure EV. The average American drives 37 miles apparently (per day). The average Tesla owner that plugs in every night is WASTING 260 miles of battery capacity EVERYDAY (assuming the range is 300 miles). A total waste of money, resources, etc. If all that wasted battery capacity could be retargeted at SMART cars like this Prius Prime, the world would be much better off. It's a crime, really. My Prius Prime is on a boat from Japan (I have the VIN:-) and will hopefully take delivery in a few weeks. I can buy any car I want and I choose this car for trolling around Maryland/DC. Will rarely use gas and won't have range anxiety when I visit my son in Pittsburgh. Toyota knows their stuff and I commend them for not following Musk.
Glad to hear from viewers that appreciate and understand these important points. PHEV's have so many benefits over an EV.
@@carhelpcorner- The most important point is that plug-in hybrid vehicles are the stepping stone to the future of transitioning to fully electric vehicles.....
Right now there's not enough electricity available for charging all cars and the time it would take to do this, even if it were available, would frustrate a lot of people.
Not everyone can charge at home. It's a very unlevel playing field.
The only way to convince people to consider all electric would be to slowly convince them that they are saving money.
I would agree if the Prius Prime was 1/10 or even 1/2 of the price of a model 3. Instead, it's almost as expensive with less features and harder to buy. Toyota and their dealers just got too greedy.
That just show you how much Toyota is overcharging you for 1/5 the size of BEV capacity.
If Toyota can make Prius at $15 to $20k, I believe they will destroy Tesla
But no, they have to price Prius at cost with Model 3 for no good reason
I wanted to buy a 2023 Prius Prime, but our local dealership wouldn't even take an order for one. They said they only get what the factory pre-allocates to them, and they only get one to two per YEAR. I live in Tennessee... so it really wasn't an option. And, even ignoring the unavailability, the dealership wanted a $500 deposit and a large markup (several thousand dollars) just to reserve the next one that would show up someday. So I opted for a used 2021 Prius Prime that CarMax was willing to ship here. I wish I had the longer EV range of the 2023 model, but the 2021 model has been great so far (had it about a month now).
Thanks for sharing. Two allocations per year is ridiculous!
That’s how ridiculous car dealers are and the fact car max helped dealers to is disappointing
I just got mine 2023 Prime XSE in wind chill pearl. I really love it. Safety features, MPG and fit/finish is amazing.
Car dealerships need to die. They offer no value. This is why Tesla is doing so well. I just ordered a Tesla Model Y Long Range, which I'll be picking up Saturday. No salesman trying to sell me "undercoating". No ridiculous dealer markups. No hard sell. The manufacturer says the car costs X, I pay X, I get the car.
The 2023 Prius Prime looks awesome! I'd have a few tiny complaints, but depending on your commute, you might be able to get 1,000 miles or more per fill up. We also have a Mini Countryman PHEV in our family, which only gets 17 miles of EV range and even with that little range, it's not uncommon for me to get 700 miles per fillup. Twice, I got 800 miles.
They told me the wait time is 3-4 years😂 they just wanted to sell a used car or a brand new car with 4k markup+ packages
I started my search for a 2023 black Prius about 6 months ago. Two weeks ago I found a black 2024 Prius Prime with a special lease deal of $4500 discount from Toyota plus the dealer gave me $1k discount as well! Love the car... My four old cars are all 15mpg V8 vehicles. Just got my charging working so I'm a very happy camper. Toyota just delivers a large number of Prius's and other models, so if you are looking to buy or lease a Toyota check again, I was floored to get mine at $5500 below MSRP!!!
The full EVs are a few years / decade off from being where they need to be in terms of price / performance / charger saturation for the masses. My opinion. By then a lot of things will have changed. So who knows.
Agreed
I get about 36 miles with my new Prius XSE Premium. About 10 miles better than my 2017 Prius Premium.
2024 ❤ PRIUS PRIME OWNER , 3 months old 3400 miles . Fun to drive on highways, the power truly is amazing . I have found it has increased and is faster now ! The Q charger needs a recall , due to poor design-stops charging when the phone slides over . Magnet and plate can remedy this . Paint Quality is awesome, thickness is better than the average. I was fortunate to buy the day I test drove . Definitely expect to pay more , it’s worth the pleasure of driving a fun vehicle.
Absolutely .. bought my 2007 Prius 3 years ago .. driving it in Hong Kong … no problem at all … previous owner had replaced the big battery … really my best car ever … used or new over the last 50 years … very roomy for a smaller car .. very comfortable even compared to Lexus 400 which I used to drive for a number of years in US … haven’t driven an E-car .. thinking it might be a hassle about charging it
The charging is a hassle if you do not have an at home charger. Not enough and even fast chargers take an hour. Also the range on all EV is not good. The high end is for city driving while low range is hwy driving. I drove for 1 hour in a fully charged battery and was almost out of charge by the end of it with a short road trip.
Would never wait 2 years for a car
0:10 HONDA INSIGHT IS THE ORIGINAL NOT TOYOTA PRIUS
The spaceship will not be forgotten
We own 2 Rav 4 Primes
40 miles of range provides us EV 85% of our driving needs.
Great video! I have a third generation Toyota Prius and it has over 210,000 miles currently.
I live upstate New York and winters here could be brutal. AllI wheel drive definitely be an option for me. I will wait a couple of years when they become offf lease and used.
Stop burning stuff it pollutes the air and water 😢 !
My 2009 was totalled at 400k. Still was lookin and running good. No major repairs! Great cars.
How’s the rust under the car
Good luck dealing with catalyct converter theft driving around in a Prius though. Lol ,especially in Texas.it’s a constant fear
I agree the Prius Prime, especially the base model, gets a long range and great MPG 50 + and much better than a pure electric vehicle with no range anxiety. There is one issue
that needs to be addressed. They are impossible to find especially at MSRP!!!!!!
Yes I mentioned this. So sad!
This country is totally messed up
@@comment6864 Yup, toyota is obviously throttling production, this level of hybrid is cool now. The prius used to be a joke in 2007. Now its a happy medium between people who dont care for full EV, but dont wanna spend tons on gas money.
What rang anxiety? Are you talking about? EV owners don’t have anxiety because they’re smart enough to know where the charge stations are in charge at home that’s just excuses that people that love ice engines make but you’re gonna have gas anxiety when prices reach six dollars to seven dollars to eight dollars a gallon within the next few years you’re 50 miles plus a gallon don’t do shit thenwho wants to pay like 100 bucks to fill up a car and a $700 car payment only a dumbass would
This is the catch 22 of PHEV. Too much manufacturing complexity, in addition to the complexity of a normal hybrid you're now adding a charging port, bigger battery system and an on-board charger. Toyota just sees these vehicles as a headache, I think at this point they'd rather make Full EV models than make PHEV.
I agree with many of the reasons expressed in the video and they are the ones that led me to the decision to buy a 2024 Toyota Prius instead of an electric car.
Then a question: how can it be that there in the US and Canada the wait to get this new Prius is several months? Here in Italy I was able to have it after a couple of months from the order, despite the naval traffic troubles during the shipment from Japan to Europe in the Red Sea due to the Houthi attacks.
It can't fast charge. It's inferior in a crash to a Tesla Model 3, it's cost of ownership including maintenance is going to be significantly higher than a Model 3, and you're going to be burning a lot of gasoline if you take any kind of Road trip. In what way does that make it Superior to a Tesla Model 3?
I love my EV... a 1st generation Leaf... but it is getting up there in years and it may be time to get a new car... I have driven a friend's 3rd gen prius in the past... but was very ahhhhhh... blah... no thanks... but this new seems more attractive all around... now just to see if there is enough space in the back for my dogs... I suspect not... hmmmmm...
Beautiful car. Drove a 2011 for over a decade and never had an issue. Prius has come a long way. I wish it were a little roomier.
e-bicycle from amazon would give you 60 miles so 40miles still can't break it lol what a clunker
A great car
Great Toyota sponsored commercial.
Plug in hybrid sales are plunging year after year.
Because they priced them wrong. Imagine a Prius new at $18k, I would buy 2 for family
@@MrQuay03
I'll buy 10 Cybertrucks for 20k. 😆
We were lucky to pick a 2023 Prius Prime XSE in Pearl white with a glass roof. It is simply stunning, So far we drove 150K on electric power EV Mode only in 3 days since we got it. We love it!
You can't mean 150k in 3 days... that's 150,000 miles.... unless you mean 150km.... kilometers
@@markweiner3896 lol my bad yes 150 Kilometres 😀
@@walaarostom😂😂😂 Thanks for the clarification because I was like damn what you be doing 😂😂😂
Lol... that would be 3 days of straight driving at almost Mach 3.
Can I attach a Trlr Hitch: What towing capacity? Torque numbers, etc? AND demesions? Which Parking Spaces??
The Prius Prime in an excellent car. Too bad Toyota only makes 10 of them each year.
I currently own a 2010 Prius, and I love it. Yes, it’s boring, but it matches my personality.
I need to buy a second car, and I have been researching electric cars. It increasingly appears to me that plug-in hybrids may be the better choice for all the reasons stated in the video.
The only reason I am hesitating: I promised my daughter that we would buy a car with rear air vents. Prius doesn’t have them. Here in the Texas summers, rare air vents are really not a luxury.
I know I might be rly late with that but maybe it will be helpful for someone here. I'm currently renting out that 2024 prius while wating for my reservation to buy 2024 LE trim. And let me tell you, the difference between 19-inch wheels and 17-inch ones is FREEKING BIG in case of ride quality, smootheness and ease of driving. The person who's renting out me the car let me drive 19 inch wheels XSE Prime for like 10 days, and then I swapped it to 17 inch wheels SE Prime and that was a bliss! The small wheels made me feel so good and And everything finally fell into place! 19-inch wheels made me feel like the car is WAY MORE heavy, hard to turn the steering wheel and it's like there was more struggling for the car with that big wheels to accelerate as if I had +300 LBs more (felt like that, I know it's not the case tho). The elephant in the room is the MPG was so bad with those big wheels I was complaining all the time during those 10 days. So you might consider the choice of the trims carefully according to your preferences. If you can test drive/rent the different trims before buying I would definetly do that, cuz in my case that was a big deal. After all the LE/SE versions have everyithing you need, and those bells and whistles are not the game changers that's for sure. Cheers!
We have a 2024 Prime SE with the 17's. Far, superior to the 19's in every way. You are completely correct. In EV Mode, I can squeeze very close to 100 Km on battery in summer temperatures. And, it's faster than the higher trim levels to boot. A rare thing in the automotive World where the base trim is better than the Premium offerings.
I'd like to have a "go" with an LE model, as it is even more base than the SE as far as I can see. Might exceed our economy even.
Enjoy yours when it lands.
@TomLawlor-iq6gm already enjoying. Thank you very much :)
I wanted one but ended up buying a Tesla after the dealer marked up the price by an extra 10k.
I bought one in July and love it. I like the steering wheel low so that was not an issue I see the cluster just fine. The rear visibility does suck so I’ve just learned to adapt and be more attentive to traffic. Not hard as I’ve been riding motorcycles every Summer for 2 decades. I have multiple vehicles and I bought it as a work and small errands commuter. It is a fine tool that drives great, has surprisingly good get up, and turns a few heads. Love my Prius prime 😁
How much did you pay?
36k 4 the xse base@@MrQuay03
Too bad the rear visibility hasn't improved. It's been bad for a very long time.
@@justwhenithoughtthat’s why you get digital backup
my 10 years old Chevy Volt does more or less the same thing
I would buy it for $25,000 USD, that’s my final offer!
An excellent car, but sad to say its not being market in the Phils i think.
I want it so bad I cant even… i could get a Mazda or Honda delivered in a week but id prefer wait 18 months for this prius, its just perfect 🥰
How tall are you? Im worried about the low roof in the back.
with 40 miles of pure EV range, I think most people can do their daily driving with just EV mode.
no one ever mentions cabin noise and if it is quiet. Nor the quality of the audio.
The battery size of Prius is about 1/100 of average BEVs that consume a lot of rare metals from the environment.
Is this something that a 6'3" driver can buy, or is the driving experience too unbearable?
Exactly .. Nice car if you are under 5' 2".. Plus the low roofline and all around EXTREMELY poor visibility make it about VERY dangerous to drive..
Outstanding video review! 👍. The #1 Topgun PHEV sedan in the world. So awesome it’s a functional hatchback. However 80% of new vehicles sold are SUV’s and trucks now.
Full EV’s suck! Toyota has new battery technology out in a couple of years providing a range of 1,000 miles and 10 minutes charging time. I’ll wait. ⏰
Sadly Toyota is known as the best automobile manufacturer, but can’t deliver anything with timelines measured in years. Essentially it’s vapourware. 😢. Best to review products we can actually buy. 😊
The next gen solid state battery EVs are going to be game changers 👍
@@carhelpcorner
Exactly! 💯
You get it! 👍
Don't hold your breath on that new battery tech, it will take ten years to get out at scale.
@@theredscourge
Looking good for 2-3 years out 😊😉 🇯🇵
@@billyrock8305 They won't even be meeting hybrid Corolla sales demand 3 years from now lol
Nice but who wants to waste a day in a stealership only to get frustrated with no car?
How do you charge it? Do you have to have a plug installed in your garage? How much to charge it?
I live 30 min out from Cheyenne WY on a ploy of land. Only thing stopping me from getting this thing is due to ground clearance with dirt roads and huge snow mound that blow up on the dirt roads I say Toyota makes a TRD version with a 2inch lift😮💨😂
I'm sure it is a great car . The problem is you can't get one , customers need to wait for couple years to get one if they are lucky . And the dealerships mark up the price , at least few thousands dollar over the MSRP .
It’s illegal to charge over MSRP in Canada. It can mean massive fines and prison for the dealership principles and sales rep. 👮🏿
Simple. Dealer puts 100km on it and sells it as used. Happening everywhere and OMVIC does nothing about it.Charge whatever they want for a used car. @@billyrock8305
I got mine at msrp 3 months ago after calling 10 different dealerships. Look around!
@@nicolagaballo3120
You paid list price for the worst financial investment in a lifetime. Not something to brag about dude. 🙈
A great review. Praying this Prius comes to South Africa. Thanks for a really well-balanced review.
2 year wait is crazy. Why so long?
My Chevy volt will go up to 70 miles on battery before switching to fuel.. (usually 60 or so) the 44 on the prime seems a bit short. I so wish Chevy hadn't discontinued it.
Why was the Volt so unpopular?
The big problem with Toyota is their beyond horrible dealerships full of the worst type of “people” demanding thousands for additional dealer markup.
i don't know about your local market but where i am from, the plugin version of the Prius costs more than the cheapest comprable EV. also, even in the ideal world where i was somehow able to get unlimited days off work whenever i wanted to, i would still only take 1 trip beyond the range of most modern EVs a month.
I have a 2014 Toyota Prius and I bought it and they insurance auction. I paid $4200 and spend 10,000 no $1000 to fix it and I love it no no went overseas for six months and did not have my neighbor to drive it once a week, therefore when I came back the battery was dead and the dealership told me to replace the hybrid battery for $4300 here in Atlanta. I searched around and found out a company a third-party company called hybrid battery 911 they came to install it for $1700 only and they are mobile, so far it is great! I am happy with their policy and warranty for life for $20 per month fee. So I’m very very happy so far I also have a 2010 Toyota sienna which uses so much gas comparing to the Prius so I am parking it at my backyard. I also do a lot of work in my remodeling. So I am planning to install a hitch for a trailer so I can haul branches and junk to the dump yard once in a while and that’s my plan again I love my 2014 Toyota Prius 10 gallons every time and it gives me 585 miles.
A few years ago I cross shopped the Prius/Prius Prime with the Chevy Volt. As much as I trust the Toyota name more than Chevy, the vehicle simply was barely driveable. Horrendous acceleration and noisy drivetrain did not promote confidence or comfort when driving in traffic. On the other hand, the Volt was zippy and whisper quiet. It didn't help that the Prius was one of the ugliest vehicles every created. Needles to say, the Volt won hands down.
Well, it looks like the Prius Prime has arrived to take the mantle from the now discontinued Volt to check all those boxes. It has the looks, the performance, driving experience. And unlike the Volt (which is merely average in this regard) the Prius has a loooooong track record of reliability.
I was really hot to buy a 2nd generation Volt. They look great and have fantastic EV mileage for a PHEV. I got spooked though after reading owners forums and Volt Facebook groups with all the failed BECMs that had stranded owners especially during the pandemic with no available replacements for crazy long periods of time. The the shift to park issue was another issue. I was close to buying but in the end chickened out due to these issues. Instead I bought a 2015 Prius and so far love it. I am sure I would have loved the Volt too unless the BECM failed. I hope you have had good look with yours, it sounds like you have based on your positive review
Go with Tesla MY. You will never regret. M3 is fine too. Stress free driving
Yes this much more sense ..
You mentioned that a consumer can order one and wait a while to receive it. This would be great if you are particular about the color of the vehicle. How does one do this? What dealership helps do this for a consumer. The Toyota dealer we visited didn’t mention this as a possibility. Thank you for the review.
Just go to a dealership and tell them you’ll like to place an order on one. U can even build your Prius online and it will be sent to your dealer you choose and they will call
Why this over a Tesla 3?
We own the 2021 Prius LE eAWD. Fantastic car at 51.6-58.3 MPG.
On snow and ice this car is amazing.
Wait what? Oh right Chevrolet Volt was better.
When it’s not on fire
I got a 2023 Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you or anyone reading this could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
What Anxiety Range Tesla Base Model 3 gets 280 miles.....
Acceleration UNMATCHED...SAFETY UNMATCHED.....
The Prius Prime will be the fourth Prius we have owned. They have all been exceptionally reliable vehicles. While we wait for our new Prius Prime, our 2014 Prius still has a blue book value of over $15,000. That’s not bad for a nine year old vehicle. The point about Prius Primes being hard to find is valid. Unless one lives in a CARB state, the Prime is virtually impossible to find locally. We had to go out of state to find ours. Often one finds a Prime purchase out of state with a significant cost above MSRP. Fortunately, we found a dealer within 275 miles that does not sell above MSRP. The Prius Prime that we have put a deposit on will not arrive for two months. But that’s worth the wait!
We waited 21 months for our 2024 Prime. Worth every day of it. Got $5,000 in rebates too.
The point you make at 12:20 needs to be shouted from the rooftops at the car world
I should really repeat it more!
That point is actually one of the false narratives that Japan likes to promote. The main reason being that once a battery is mined it can be essentially recycled about 10 times before losing ~ 50% of its lithium salts and any NMC rare metals. If you look at CO2 emissions from just a 10 year standpoint it seems great because 10 PHEVs would burn less gas and than 9 pure ICE and 1 BEV. But if you look at it over 50 years or a century then the BEV wins in sustainability - a lot less repairs, no motor oil to recycle, and very minimal carbon output during operation if the grid cleans up - and yes the grid cleaning up is an integral component. A temporary solution would be like pulling up a plane to gain temporary altitude only to result in an aerodynamic stall right afterwards.
The only way to create a real inflection point in CO2 emissions is to start the development of a feedback loop for batteries and clean grid energy. PHEVs usually tend to interfere with this process - especially now as people are keeping their vehicles well past a decade.
The reasonable thing to do is for people to stop buying large SUVs when they don't really utilize the cabin space/load capacity, use PHEVs in cases where towing or long trips are under time constraint (taxi) and buy BEVs when the time comes to replace an aging ICE engine. A BEV isn't going to work for everyone, but for 85-90% of people it will solve their daily requirements with a once or twice a year outlier where a plane or ICE rental should be used. People buying 9 seat 3 row SUVs because they picked up a 75" TV once at IKEA but routinely commute to work as a single occupant need to be focused on.
Try Tesla.
Why is Tesla model 3 better than the Prius prime.
1) cheaper after federal credit.
2) triggers let's go Brandon (aka PedoPete)
3) more luxurious.
4) prestige.
5) Tesla operating system.
6) faster.
7) quicker.
8) more interior space.
9) more trunk & frunk space.
10) higher resale value.
11). Less wear and tear on brakes.
12) no dealer markup.
13) Tesla mobile service.
14) remote control of Tesla via phone app.
15) service station equipped to service electric vehicles.
16) no car salesman 🤡 to deal with.
17) software updates.
18) sentry mode cameras.
19) no gas.
20) no oil & filter change
21) no transmission fluid change.
22) no radiator fluid change.
23) no serpentine belt change.
24) no engine parts to change (water pump, starter, alternator, etc.).
25) readily available
Does the battery recharge as you drive it like a normal hybrid?
Yes
🌏EV with engine👍
This Prius prime looks so damn good!
Ick, it's still the perfect car for people who don't have a passion for driving.
I even want to just get it as a second car
I just bought this car - Prius Prime XSE. What's said here is very acurate. I love having a car that I can run most of the time as a full EV, but still has a gas engine that allow me to not worry about running out of (electric) power, and gives me a terrific overall range (over 500 miles!). Definitely still pricey, and selling for a primium over the MSRP (mine was an extra $3k), with a 2 month wait (longer had I not managed to pick up a PP that someone else had ordered and then back out of).
I got a Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
@@ecealgan Hey there,
The heat you feel on the drivers side rear quarter is completely normal as is the noise you hear.
Charging your 13.6Kwh battery creates heat that must be dissipated away from the battery. A fan blows air over the battery towards the rear drivers side. In the winter, a heater keeps the battery warm while charging.
Great cars, we love our 24 Prime.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm I appreciate your response. I figured it was normal the more I drove and charged the car.
Hybrid system net power: 220 hp.... Meanwhile, for 50k, you can get an electric Hyundai with 640 horsepower that costs far less to maintain and its "fuel" is actually much cheaper, when you charge at home. It is also more reliable with far fewer moving parts, more durable, more practical etc. Hybrids have a higher chance of explosion or combustion than BEVs. The presenter gives a false impression which is not realistic at all.... Prius Prime is slow, with only 220 horsepower.
Nothing matters unless you can get these cars for MSRP, which is almost impossible these days. Toyota dealers are tarnishing the reputation of Toyota😢.
It's challenging but not impossible. Still very sad.
I got mine at msrp 3 moths ago after calling 10different dealerships. Look around
@@nicolagaballo3120 that's amazing. I'll try to find one too😊.
@@nicolagaballo3120how long did it take for you to get it delivered?
60k in canada
Thank you for the review. I have a Lexus ct 200h and my wife drives a Lexus ES 300h. We love our hybrid cars. My next car would definitely be a Prius prime, not an EV.
They general negatives stated for EV’s don’t apply to Teslas though. Teslas enjoy the flawless Supercharger network with incredibly plentiful, ultra reliable stations available in convenient locations. Teslas have proven themselves to be exceptionally reliable and are on track to outsell many brands now. Most people don’t keep cars for 10 years but Tesla includes 8 year 100,000 or 150,000 mile battery, motor and drivetrain warranty. The Prius is a cute little car and if you have never owned a Tesla it may be an option. I actually considered buying one but after owning and driving Teslas the Prius lack of power and performance is a deal killer.
Most people dont keep car for 10 years?
You haven't seen whats on the roads?
@@absolutium not the original purchaser, they are the manufacturers target. Any person keeping a car for 10 years is extremely rare
@@RoyalCrane I think you need to reconsider you way of thinking..
The average age of the 286 million cars is 12.5 years how many Teslas are sold any given years?
@@RoyalCrane In the US of course
@@absolutium I don’t know what you are trying to say? Still virtually no one keeps the same car for 10 years, not sure what or why you are arguing with a fact. It doesn’t matter the number of cars on the road, it doesn’t change anything. Tesla is on track to sell close to 2 million cars this year to answer your question
In life, if there's one thing I've come to believe in, it's to always have a backup plan or plan B. So It becomes a no brainer, then, to see the merits of a plug-in hybrid. Besides, I'm still concerned about the resale value of an EV with a battery nearing the end of its warranty period. Because lithium-based batteries are expensive, represent a disproportionately large share of the value of the car, and can't be fixed (requires replacement).
I currently have a Prius 2024. Electric gets most of my driving done and having that Hybrid engine is wonderful. There was no mark up from the dealer I bought it from but I did have to wait two months (which is, shorter than most other folks had to wait).
I have a 2007 and a 2014 Prius and they are great. The 7 has over 300k and the 14 has 200k. If I speed 1200 a year in maintenance and tires I would be surprised.
True the public charging network sucks...but that is absolutely not the case for the tesla charging network ..I have been driving a model 3 for 80000 miles with no Maintenance or issues . I drive 3000 miles a month and it costs me $100 to charge it at home ..
I've driven my 2017 Prius Prime Advance for 5 years. Most days and many months I get between 100 and 200 MPG. (The max read-out is 199.99.) If I might exceed the battery range, I switch to HV mode on the highway or when I don't have enough charge to reach my destination. The electric motor is more efficient at low speeds. Once I get near my destination (where I can charge), within the range of the remaining charge I switch back to EV mode. Not draining the battery to "empty" (30%) is better the life of the physical battery.
Great video. The 2017 is nowhere near as bad a you imply. The look, handling, and acceleration are all excelent.
I'll never pay markup.
You mean tissue
Agree you
I always thought the Prius was a sissy car, but now with the redesign and power increase, Im really considering purchasing this car. Petrol costs are through the roof sucks and the maintenance for out-of-warranty European vehicles is simply a joke. If I can get past all the cheap plastic I may get this car by the middle of next year?
More Reasons - Toyota Reliablity & Quality control are tops. Toyota service is usually tops. If you are concerned about CO2 - you can make 8 Prius's with the same limited production lithium for every Model Y; yet the Prius will do a 44 mile commute all electric; so 8 Prius hybrids save a lot more CO2 then 1 Y; the Prius also uses less CO2 to build. Full EVs lithium pigs should be banned for this reason. Range anxiety= time anxiety. A Full EV stops within 300 miles of highway driving at 70mph, the Tesla Model 3 LR needs to charge near 1 hour. A 600 mile trip adds 2 hours. The Prius arriving in
The problem with my 2023 Prius is that at 42,000 miles, my gas mileage has gone from 53 mpg to 40. I have a sneaking suspicion that my hybrid battery is already dying.
My Nissan leaf goes 100-110 converted miles per gallon (about 4.5 miles per kwh). Why did people buy Prius before? MPGs as simple as that. EVs get better MPGs therefore Prius is obsolete. Thank you
Hybrid: unnecessary complexity with lackluster performance. Buy a Tesla.
"unlike an ev where you are constantly worried about range" dude clearly doesn't have an EV.
he said it himself - he never needed to use the fuel. used the EV range on the prius for everything.
what he didn't say was this. YOU CANT FIND THE PRIUS PRIME. toyota makes fewer primes than a startup EV company. its a joke Toyota had their chance to rule the EV market and blew it. the prius stunk for 20 years and finally released a good prius
TBH, this car has two major flaws - availability and Tesla Model 3 LR - I know Model 3 is pure EV and has incredibly stupid controls for basic functions like blinkers, shifting etc. and possible problems with quality control.
I really like the new Prius PHEV, but I would not be surprise if most of the potential drives would choose Tesla instead.
We ordered a 2022 Prius 16 months ago. It's still not here and is probably at least three more months away. If it ever shows-up, it will be a 2024 model. We're expected to eat the increased cost. Jeez. Around here, all the other manufacturer's lots are flush with cars, how is this company still in business.
My wife had to point out to the sales person that the Prime was a plug-in. He did not know the difference between a hybrid and a PHEV. Seriously.
Does anybody know, what sort of receptible do we need to install outside to charge the car with 220 volt current. The plug on the feed end of the charge cord I was shown is a regular type (115 volt) plug. You can't find a 220 volt box that allows a normal three prong to plug into it.
Toyota and the sales people have no answers. WTF.
I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 2023 Prime xse premium (coming from a 2015 Prius 3). I've had it for a couple months now and with my round trip commute only being about 20 miles a day, it's perfect for my daily use, but if I want to take off and go to Vegas for the weekend, that's not a problem either. Over 2000 miles on the car and I've only put two tanks of gas in so far to the tune of about 14 gallons. I have nothing but good things to say about it, and I enjoy getting behind the wheel every day.
I got a 2023 Prime XE a few months ago. I have noticed that back rear corner is pretty warm to the touch when the car is charging (the back right corner is not). There is also quite a loud buzzing noise that comes from there. Somebody rear ended me at the red light but it was enough to cause the bumper to be changed. I am trying to figure out if all 2023 Prius Primes get warm in the left corner when the car is hooked into the electric charger. Have you noticed if yours does that? I'd appreciate it if you could check and write an answer as the insurance people do not want to pay for diagnostics again.
@@ecealgan I will check it out when I plug it in tonight and let you know.
@@Muzishun75 were you able to check?
Our 24 Prime has gone over 1,400 miles and we're still on our first tank. What's not to like.
Range anxiety on electric véhicules is a psychological and pure human disease. Technologically this doesn’t exists and is just a psychological myth.
I had this disease before, until I tried a EV in a 800Kms road trip, and this healed my range anxiety issue completely.
Nice looking car. I just traded my Prius for a second EV (Chevy Bolt.) Toyota makes very reliable cars.
Forget it. Just go full EV and be done. Get a Model Y RWD and save heaps of $$$ over the lifetime. Much better driving, better equipment, and way more space too.
Good for single car home. For two car home, EV as one, Prius (or traditional fuel car) for second best. 90% of travel can be done w EV. Perfect for our family. Sorry, but Toyota a late adopter of full EV’s. It’s a shame.