It makes more financial sense for Universal to keep Marvel from Disney World than to lose it in order to retain rights to the Simpsons. Giving up Marvel would give their competition so much more power than they already have. Losing the Simpsons means a retheme of 1 main screen ride, a spinner, and a food court. Losing Marvel ensures that more travelers will spend days at WDW, instead of possibly coming to Uni for a few days.
Definitely agree, just bring back Back To The Future the ride. It still has a very big fan base and could introduce new people to the franchise. Hell why not just replace all of Kidzone and make an entire Spielberg land and add that area to it. Bring back Jaws, maybe make a Close Encounters Of The Third Kind ride? Or they could just add that Pokémon area and replace the Simpsons with that, but that would be going against the idea of a “studio park” more and more, since the entire Pokémon brand isn’t even a major movie franchise yet (Detective Pikachu is a more franchise spin off)
110% agree. I love Simpsons Land but the Simpsons as a franchise are dead compared to Marvel. Universal keeping the rights to Marvel in Florida has got to be like spitting right in the eye of the big mouse at this point. They'd be nuts to lose that IP.
Six flags is sitting on a goldmine with the DC Property but their not using the brand to its full potential . As much as I would love for six flags to get a win with a full on immersive dc land (And they can’t be cheap with it ) after seeing how universal has handles Nintendo and Harry Potter , I feel like universal would handle it and give the land the live that it deserves.(Literally funny because I thought of this topic a few days ago😂)
The only way Six Flags does it right is if the company is bought up by AT&T. If AT&T ever decided they TRULY wanted to compete in this market with Universal and Disney they would be ideally positioned to do so with a Six Flags acquisition. The interesting part about that fantasy idea is that WB also owns the rights to..... The Lord of the Rings..... (well the movie rights anyway). Let's all sit back and think about what a LOTR themed area would be like if done to the quality level of the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Paired with DC that's one hell of a one two punch and oh yeah they'd still have the rights to Looney Toones as well probably the second most recognizable cartoons on the planet behind the big mouse IP. I keep pushing this idea because I'd love to see it happen. Doesn't mean it will of course....
Maybe Warner Brothers give the right to Universal and Six Flags. Six Flags focus on minor local parks and Universal is a massive theme park. They aren't competing too much
Great point. It would certainly benefit Warner Bros and Six Flags, but Universal tends to go after exclusive rights. It would be interesting to see if this were proposed if Universal would still be interested
Also, the only market where they're directly competing is LA, so as long as they can keep DC at Magic Mountain, I'm not sure Six Flags would be *that* upset about Universal getting Florida rights to DC
If Comcast buys Warner Media that could certainly happen. But I feel they will just re-theme Islands of Adventure according to their newer IPs, like Toon Lagoon would be Looney Tunes land, Marvel Superhero land turns into DC Comics land and a more interesting make-over could be turning The lost continent into something about Aquaman or Wonder Woman. Who knows?
I mean, COULD they do that if the already own NBCUniversal? I mean, sure, Disney bought Fox, but only under heavy antitrust scrutiny, and Disney agreeing to sell off some of Fox's assets. Comcast is already massive, and we're going to get even tighter antitrust enforcement in the near future.
@@AttractionIdeas you should do a video about what this type of scenario might look like for Universal Orlando. It’s seems entirely possible that once the WB/Discovery merger finalizes and they start a bidding war Comcast will go all in on it, possibly why they’re biding their time as this would be a Disney/21 a century Fox level acquisition. Would IOA, USF, and the soon-to-be EU have Warner Bros. Discovery IP in their parks? Or would they make a whole park of this IP on its own? According to Theme Park Stop, there just might be enough land southeast of EU to make a fourth gate. Your thoughts?
I’d rather like to see another ride based off some of Warner Bros. cartoon IPs like the looney tunes and Scooby doo. But then again six flags already has that, but universal could do it better
Thank you SixFlags isn’t using the Looney tunes and DC properties to their full potential . I don’t know if it’s about budget restrictions but to get money you have to spend it .
Oh, absolutely; Scooby-Doo deserves to have a more prominent presence in American parks, especially after being left for dead by Cedar Fair in the late 2000's. Not only is the franchise as a whole practically immortal, but so is its status as a thematic main-stay during the TAFT and Paramount tenures of King's Island+Dominion+Canada's Wonderland. Then again, what of Hanna-Barbera characters in general? Flintstones, Jetsons, Yogi Bear; most of these were left effectively orphaned due to management shuffling of what are now Cedar Fair parks. There's an untapped nostalgia vein with these characters; not solely for the series' alone, but (again) their well-remembered presence across parks. Warner Bros. Abu Dhabi is a shining, albeit out-of-country example of what could be done with the ex-studio's back-catalogue. And that's not even getting into other odds and ends of long-gone parks that featuted these characters; like Frontier Village in San Jose, or Hanna-Barbera Land in Houston- Point being, TL;DR, Hanna-Barbera characters deserve a triumphant return to prominence as a desirable theme park IP. It's been done before, it can be done again.
There’s prolly something in the Marvel contract that would never allow them to have both. They’re competing brands, they can’t market them together and they could never favor one over the other. That’s how licensing works. Harry Potter being in multiple parks works cuz it’s the same property
The concept art for a DC land for Islands of Adventure looked awesome so sure, why not. Simpsons has had it's best years behind them and the old Back to the Future ride is ready to retire so I expect it to go and Universal will be fine with that. Marvel isn't going anywhere (thank god, look what crap Disney build for their ip in DL) as it isn't costing Universal a dime (except a percentage for merch). Sure when the thing is milked dead by Disney they will have a change to buy it but I doubt it.
That's really the only way it will ever make sense to let go of Marvel for Universal. Once the MCU has had it's day in the sun and super hero movies loose relevance then it might be time to move on from that IP but until then Universal would be dumb as fuck to let Disney have that IP back in Florida.
What’s interesting to think is that Universal originally had interest in DC before creating a deal with Marvel and even had a mock up of Gotham City Land. If Six Flags isn’t smart about this Universal will take those rights. This will be Universals one up on Disney since they’ll now have both properties
I think a movie-based Gotham/Metropolis land would fit perfectly where Simpson’s is located with a vekoma launched flying coaster, a Batman vs villains dark ride and of course a justice league stunt show. I don’t think a comic style land would work as a) it would be too similar to six flags and b) it would be too similar to marvel land. For 2029/30 it would be the perfect time for an expansion as it would be a good 5 years after epic universe opens
Universal really has Disney bent over the table. As they hold the rights to Marvel in Orlando, if they get this too they’ll really capitalise on Disney. I think it’s great as it will force Bob Cheap-skate to finally take the parks seriously.
I have a friend who has been to both parks and he s told me one of the big difference recently is Universal has geared more toward locals where Disney has focused on tourist due to that’s where the money is
I don’t think Universal could have DC and Marvel in the same park, that would likely violate the original licensing agreement Universal made with Marvel. But, I would love to see Universal trade the Marvel rights for Simpsons and then acquire DC. Then we could have both major theme parks fully develop attractions based on both major comic book companies with no restrictions.
There are some problems when it comes to people arguing “Why don’t they build this? They should replace this with this. Etc, Etc.” We forget to think about how much these expansions cost to design, build and run as well as the cost to run the rest of the resort itself. You also have to think of getting people in on your pre existing attractions, besides one big reason Universal brought in WWHP was due to the decline of attendance of the parks following 9/11. There are many more reasons too.
I like the idea of a Warner Bros World in Orlando. Let's see: WarnerMedia wants to enter the theme park industry, but has been very meticulous and slow for them. I don't blame them, they want to do it well and without attracting so much attention, they know that easily anything they do will be compared to Disney and Universal, for good or bad. Also because they do not have the experience of the sector. However, they already have three theme parks, at least under licenses and part of the profit. But nothing even within the USA, I think they can follow the formula they made with the Abu Dhabi park, an indoor park with different wings for different IPs, including their DC. I say Abu Dhabi as an example because it would be a good option for Orlando, something different, they do not need the mega park with a lagoon and infinite parking, like Disney and Universal. People would like something smaller, with AC and light to walk in an intermediate day between two other large parks. In addition, in Waner Bros World AB they demonstrated that they can do quality things of a good level and in a relatively small space (important thing for the availability of land, cost and construction in today's Orlando). And I'm sure they would do even better being in Orlando. They know that Universal would do a great job with DC. Just like they did with Harry Potter. But thinking in the long term, money and knowing that it is its own content, I think it would not be crazy to think of its own park in Orlando, at least something more humble (but well done) compared to the others.
Yes and no. If you were WB and Universal is building up what you consider one of if not your marque IP and wants to do it with your absolute marque IP in Batman/Superman/Justice League in the same way, why not? You get a WB theme park in Orlando that's quality without putting in your own money and getting mostly profits/percentages from it. It's easy money, good for the brands/WB's reputation and gives you a stronghold on a rival entertainment company. It's smooth like butter
Honestly, I've always thought that ever since Disney acquired Marvel and the MCU just exploded in popularity, that should the contracts expire that Marvel would become DC. I mean, what is Six Flags really going to do about it? Yeah, contracts, but that's when Universal calls up Warner, asks for the rights, they contact Six Flags, renegotiate, and then Universal does DC while Six Flags can still just keep their thinly themed rides. Hulk is easy enough to paint blue and red and make into a Superman ride. Spider-Man would literally just need a Batman reskin, don't even change much of the narrative or locations, just get rid of anything screaming New York and you've got a winner. Doctor Doom screams some sort of Joker thing. The remaining thing is Storm's spinning whatever, and I don't know what you put there because Wonder Woman is the next most popular character, but that ride doesn't really fit for her unless you say it's Linda Carter spinning around, which, that's kind of a lame thing to do for such an iconic character at a theme park. For some reason, I always come to Flash and something with the cosmic treadmill since is keeps getting faster and faster, and it's a more iconic pick for a character than Red Tornado despite that being the most appropriate choice given the nature of the ride. Not to mention, there's this amphitheater thing just outside the land that I've literally never seen any showtimes or listings for that could make room for another ride. And maybe it's just me, but I almost never bother with shops or food at theme parks, and there's so much walking through stuff in the back half of Superhero Landing that feels like it could be used for other rides or something. Honestly, until the MCU came around, Marvel characters, while popular, don't have the name recognition of the DC characters. They had a thirty year jump on most of the Marvel characters to ingrain themselves into American Pop Culture. Superman (and Supergirl), Batman (and the Bat Family and his Rogues Gallery), Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, everybody knows of them, and then you have them form the Justice League, and if you want, throw in Martian Manhunter and a Hawkman or Hawkgirl when the League's formed. At Marvel, Spider-Man is the face of the company, Hulk is popular because he had a show in the 80s, and the X-Men blew up in the 80s and 90s (of which, the most popular is Wolverine), then you have the Fantastic Four and everybody else that make up a rotating team of Avengers. It just makes sense that DC would work better because there's more names to pull from and make attractions out of that just wasn't very accessible with Marvel back in the 90s when Islands of Adventure was made. Nobody was going to be making a Captain America, Iron Man, or Thor ride at that time, however they were represented in the area and with character interactions, so it's not like they were totally absent. I mean, I still love Marvel Superhero Landing, but it's mostly for Spider-Man, and I'm not even a crazy DC fan, but there's just something about Universal making something based on the DC properties that gets me excited. Even with as cheap as I'm going about it by just repainting everything, like, oh no, it's closed for a month while they repaint and remove some big character cutouts and put up new ones, but the experiences are still relatively unchanged which means it's not a total loss of your favorite attractions like it has been in a lot of cases at Universal's parks. I see it as a win if Universal got DC.
Universal should sell the park rights of Simpsons to Disney, then buy Dc from six flags and replace simpsons and maybe everything up to ET with a DC land. Make it Gotham city, or half dark Gotham and bright metropolis. They could maybe put the Hall of Justice in the middle and it can be a Justice League ride. Sort of the equivalent of gringotts. In the Gotham half, they can have a Batman ride, which the queue can be the bat cave. Then the metropolis side can have a Superman ride where the Queue is the daily planet. They really should spare no expense. It should be on the level of the Star Wars land and Harry Potter.
I'm just waiting for Universal to capitalize on the recent rise in Anime popularity and add a Shonen Jump land to IoA (you know, since the park is supposed to be based on books)
THIS! It could be rethemed into a city inspired by the Tokyo that everybody knows now with a modern/retro vibe. There are a lot of shows with big potential.
Knowing Six Flags, Universal probably wouldn't get the rights to DC Comics anytime soon. Also, I have a suggestion for a future Attraction Ideas video: reviewing the pre-Looney Tunes Astroworld mascots, both the 1968 versions and the 1972 Marvel Mcfey and His Enchanted Animals, in a similar manner to how you reviewed the Great Adventure characters. There's a few shows on RUclips [though my personal favorite is the Lester Baseball show, and that is the title too], for reference.
This is another great video!!! After the reports of Comcast and viacomcbs combining their companies next year it’s more likely we get a Star Trek land and a Nickelodeon land.
No actually. In the Marvel-Universal Studios deal the only thing that is stated about a non-compete is that Marvel has to approve non-Marvel characters appearing in the Marvel land itself, not the rest of the park or resort. Here's a link to the deal if you want to take a look: www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1262449/000119312510008732/dex1057.htm
I’ve played out a trade in my head for years between Disney and Universal for Marvel. Would have to include a lot more than the Simpsons (but I think that would be part of it!) - possibly a lot of miscellaneous properties they acquired from Fox as well as a bunch of $. If they could fund a Re theme basically on Disney’s dime AND get new properties that they own and can use however they want (which universal loves) they might pull the trigger eventually Remember they once traded Al Michaels for Oswald the Rabbit so anything is possible haha
If WB decides to give Universal the right to build a DC Comics Land, I think that it should take the place of Marvel Super Hero Island. Retheme the Spiderman ride to the Batman/Superman ride, the Doctor Doom Fearfall to Flash Fall, the Storm Force Accelatron to Wonder Woman Accelatron and the Hulk coaster to the Green Lantern coaster.
True, but I think just in general getting back into Marvel after the grand finale (Endgame) is going to be tough for a lot of people. Movies being delayed because of the pandemic got a lot people hyped for Black Widow when they originally weren’t excited for it. And the fact it was meh, I think just turned off a lot of people again.
Also not to mention the hard part of the Six Flags part is that iirc they are owned by Warner or AT&T now? Or at least has a major share owned by them. I could maybe see Universal do a deal like the original marvel deal, AKA: Universal owns the rights to DC Properties in theme parks inside Florida specifically (Six Flags doesn't have a park in Florida) Universal is clearly focusing on Universal Orlando due to the space it provides, just like how Disneyland doesn't get a lot of the dedicated worlds like Disney world, so "But Hollywood can't get it then" would sort of be mitigated by the same virtue.
I think universal would rather give up the Simpsons then let Disney have Marvel. Let’s be real. Disney definitely won’t be using Simpsons in their parks. They will use Marvel. So it’s not just that you lose something but your competition is gaining something. Something huge if they can build new MCU rides. I mean they have screwed it up so far in California. Still I wouldn’t take the chance. You could argue Marvel is bigger than Harry Potter at this moment. It’s definitely close. It’s just not worth letting Disney own the theme park rides. It will be interesting in seeing how Guardians of the Galaxy does in EPCOT. If that brings in a lot of people and actually pulls Universal attendance. That could change things. Idk what the contract says but I think Universal might want to consider building a new Marvel ride within the next 5 years. Just because people get bored with the same old thing. I’m not sure where they would put it though if it was possible. Spider-Man is a great ride still and they have upgraded the Hulk. They’re still the same rides though. Time can also kill an attraction. A lot of variables definitely go into all of this. I’m sure Universal has a plan of sorts for it all. I just can’t imagine that it has anything to do with Disney getting the rights.
OOOOOOOHHOHOOHOH BOY. i always loved the history of DC presence in universal parks,i loved the og ideas and how those ideas became marvel super hero island,the most curious thing of the idea about a DC island instead of marvel,would have been the HHN presence in their 12th event at IOA,you instead of carnage the use of a villian like...joker or bane,as a house based on the event knightfall or arkham asylum a serious house on serious earth,so yeah sorry for that,back to the main argument,DONT theme it to the movies,theme it to the comics,even if it has a diferent tone to hero island since that was a tribute to the camp of 90s comics,this DC land would be based on the most modern comics,ooohh also make or retheme a restaurant to "planet krypton" from kingdom come.
I agree about theming it to the comics. It almost feels like Avengers Campus is already outdated and it just opened. Also, a HHN level Arkham Asylum house would be insane
That would be great. That, and Warner Bros. Discovery (if it's formed in 2022) could buy out MGM and NBCUniversal to beat Disney/Fox at its own game, that would be impressive.
You know government has to approve these purchases and mergers to prevent potential monopoly violations and Comcast merging with Discovery, Warner or anything else right now would be turned down instantly for taking too large of market share. After Disney and Fox, no big five studios will pass merging.
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If I were Warner Brothers in this position, I would still let Six Flags have the DC rights because they pay an annual fee to have this property in their parks. With Universal also theoretically paying this fee, it would basically just be free money for Warner Bros. Six Flags won't be able to argue with them because they are too over reliant on them for their themes. And Universal won't argue with Warner Bros because that defeats the whole point in the business deal.
First Marvel is a lot bigger than DC right now, and a lot of people like Marvel or DC and not both. In my case I wouldn’t care about missing the DC land even though I’m a huge Marvel fan
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I don’t think the price to rename a ride or restaurant would be astronomical. Just change the name and the sign and maybe repaint it. Remember, there’s no theming to remove/modify
For many rides this is mostly true, but for rides like Justice League: Battle for Metropolis and the Dark Knight Coaster, they would need to be completely gutted. Adding all this up across 50+ attractions, lands, and shops, Six Flags would still certainly be looking at a hefty to price to pay even with some “cheap” rethemes
There’s nothing I want more here in Florida is a DC theme Park…like the one in Dubai or get rid of marvel at islands of adventure and turn it into a dc land or epic universe …saw the DC rides at six flags they look cheap and boring
There is a probably an anticompetitive clause in the Marvel park rights. So have to give up and void the exclusive rights and with Disney as park competitor then Universal won't give them up.
Here's what can/should happen: Keep Marvel in Islands. Revamp it. Keep Hulk, revamp Spiderman. Revamp everything else to more relevant Marvel Characters. Get rid of Simpsons. As much as I love it it's not relevant anymore. Put DC there. That way it's also next to HP which is also Warner Bros
I would rather see Warner Bros Discovery build a major theme park in the Orlando area and have an area themed to DC Comics in that park. I wouldn't want to see DC Comics and Looney Tunes characters at a competitor's theme park. I would rather see them at a Warner Bros theme park.
if I’m universal, there’s no way i’m giving up marvel rights to Disney. Why on earth would you give that away to Disney just for them to steal away all of your customers with innovative new marvel rides ands areas. No way i’m giving that up. Put DC land in the new epic universe park. A perfect place for a new superhero land! gotta keep all the assets you can from Disney, i don’t care how old the marvel land gets lol.
No they do have walk-around characters, at least at some of the parks. But, honestly I rarely see them out. The Looney Tunes characters are out more often
Personally, I think Universal would be more interested in Star Trek and Lord of the Rings than trying to go through the headache of getting DC from Six Flags. Also, I think retheming Toon Lagoon to Spongebob would be really smart, especially with the water attractions. Also, I know my pfp makes me biased, but I'd like to see some anime/manga themed land in an American park. Anime is becoming more mainstream and would attract many teens and young adults.
Unfortunately, Lord of the Rings would probably be just as difficult if not more difficult to acquire with the Tolkien estate being very picky with how they license the property. That being said, since they’ve been able to please JK Rowling and Nintendo, it’s still certainly possible. Star Trek would be easier to acquire though I’m not sure they would want it given the fact Disney has the more popular space franchise in Star Wars. But after the somewhat underwhelming response to Galaxy’s Edge, maybe Star Trek could give Universal a shot to undercut Disney by making a better, more immersive land while also being more true to the source material
But Warner Bros. may want to build their own theme park and by the way where is Warner Bros. Building the theme park I just gave you idea for a future video
They could certainly consider that option down the line, but a lot of their most popular IP is currently tied up in other parks… you’re right that would make for a good video topic
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That would be so hilarious if they just swapped licensing agreements and Disney would get marvel and Universal would keep Simpsons that’s such a “don’t fuck with me bro and I won’t fuck with you“ type of vibe
Since universal has the rights for all of marvel, what they should have done is announce an expansion around the time of the 1st avengers movie (2012) so it would be ready in time for infinity war/endgame (2018-19), the 2 highest points of marvel popularity
After the Six Flags agreement expires, Universal should expand their agreement with Warner Bros, at they already have an agreement over Harry Potter. Universal could build a DC area in both California and Florida because honestly Universal doesn't need Marvel. I personally could see this happen, just give it at least 10 years. DC could finally get the popularity it deserves. Right now, with movies like Black Adam and Shazam Fury of the Gods, its just going to be the beginning. I love Marvel films but the recent ones (after no way home), and recent Disney films too are such ass if I'm being honest. Universal if finally stepping up its game with upcoming Epic Universe in 2025, and with rise in attendance, again, a DC area could potentially happen and I would love to go there.
As both are Warner Media properties, DC and Looney Tunes go hand in hand so Universal would go after both since they could use the latter to replace Kidzone and Toon Lagoo, as the original entrance for what is now Islands of Adventure was supposed to be Cartoon World featuring Looney Tune Characters
Honestly Universal buying the DC theme park brand during the 2027-8 expiration window and keeping Marvel there would be a killing blow to Disney in Florida since they can make so much theming going on with it like Marvel vs DC with both properties facing each other on both sides of the park. You also got the Super Mario Land also on its way which helps Universal even further.
Here is what i think would make the most sense but is highly unlikely…. Sell the marvel rights back to disney, use some on the money to offer a similar deal with DC (allowing 6 flags to keep their current deal in those specific locations) and the rest to update marvel island... Marvel island becomes Gotham, completely devoted to batman who has the strongest IP across both franchises in my opinion. The hulk becomes the bat plane launching out of the bat cave through Gotham, Spiderman becomes a batman dark ride…there isnt a better superhero character for a dark ride! Dr doom - 2 face falls Storm force - Mr freeze cups...something like that re-open the theatre for a batman stage show. Universal can then turn other lands at IOA or epic universal into other specific DC characters with a justice league head quarter at Epic Universe. Disney then go off and make their own marvel land in florida and universal, disney, 6 flags and Orlando all benefit.
Oh also. Six Flags may be dead sooner than you think..I was just reminded, I'm not sure about other locations but Six Flags Great America is under class action lawsuit for improper use of fingerprint scanners for season ticket holders. They have to make 5 installments of payments from 2021 until 2025. Each payment getting higher in payout
It's a shame there is no true AAA dark ride with DC characters. The superhero Island at usf can be be cut in half. Past Spider-Man, there is nothing to do.
It makes more financial sense for Universal to keep Marvel from Disney World than to lose it in order to retain rights to the Simpsons. Giving up Marvel would give their competition so much more power than they already have. Losing the Simpsons means a retheme of 1 main screen ride, a spinner, and a food court. Losing Marvel ensures that more travelers will spend days at WDW, instead of possibly coming to Uni for a few days.
agreed unless Simpsons suddenly gets supper popular it's on its way out
They’re probably not gonna even care that universal has simpsons they’ll probably just keep it intact
Definitely agree, just bring back Back To The Future the ride. It still has a very big fan base and could introduce new people to the franchise. Hell why not just replace all of Kidzone and make an entire Spielberg land and add that area to it. Bring back Jaws, maybe make a Close Encounters Of The Third Kind ride? Or they could just add that Pokémon area and replace the Simpsons with that, but that would be going against the idea of a “studio park” more and more, since the entire Pokémon brand isn’t even a major movie franchise yet (Detective Pikachu is a more franchise spin off)
I think it would make more sense for Universal to give up Marvel IF they can get DC and retheme their superhero land.
110% agree. I love Simpsons Land but the Simpsons as a franchise are dead compared to Marvel. Universal keeping the rights to Marvel in Florida has got to be like spitting right in the eye of the big mouse at this point. They'd be nuts to lose that IP.
Six flags is sitting on a goldmine with the DC Property but their not using the brand to its full potential . As much as I would love for six flags to get a win with a full on immersive dc land (And they can’t be cheap with it ) after seeing how universal has handles Nintendo and Harry Potter , I feel like universal would handle it and give the land the live that it deserves.(Literally funny because I thought of this topic a few days ago😂)
Been saying this forever
Agreed, especially with Batman, there's so much potential they could do with it.
six flags is always cheap
The only way Six Flags does it right is if the company is bought up by AT&T. If AT&T ever decided they TRULY wanted to compete in this market with Universal and Disney they would be ideally positioned to do so with a Six Flags acquisition. The interesting part about that fantasy idea is that WB also owns the rights to..... The Lord of the Rings..... (well the movie rights anyway). Let's all sit back and think about what a LOTR themed area would be like if done to the quality level of the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Paired with DC that's one hell of a one two punch and oh yeah they'd still have the rights to Looney Toones as well probably the second most recognizable cartoons on the planet behind the big mouse IP. I keep pushing this idea because I'd love to see it happen. Doesn't mean it will of course....
Yes as much as I love Six Flags..they are slacking so much
Would love to see Universals creativity mixed with DC characters. Fingers crossed this happens.
Maybe Warner Brothers give the right to Universal and Six Flags. Six Flags focus on minor local parks and Universal is a massive theme park. They aren't competing too much
Great point. It would certainly benefit Warner Bros and Six Flags, but Universal tends to go after exclusive rights. It would be interesting to see if this were proposed if Universal would still be interested
Also, the only market where they're directly competing is LA, so as long as they can keep DC at Magic Mountain, I'm not sure Six Flags would be *that* upset about Universal getting Florida rights to DC
Seeing DC characters in Universal Studios is all I want to see
If Comcast buys Warner Media that could certainly happen. But I feel they will just re-theme Islands of Adventure according to their newer IPs, like Toon Lagoon would be Looney Tunes land, Marvel Superhero land turns into DC Comics land and a more interesting make-over could be turning The lost continent into something about Aquaman or Wonder Woman. Who knows?
Good point. Totally forgot that merger was still on the table
I mean, COULD they do that if the already own NBCUniversal? I mean, sure, Disney bought Fox, but only under heavy antitrust scrutiny, and Disney agreeing to sell off some of Fox's assets. Comcast is already massive, and we're going to get even tighter antitrust enforcement in the near future.
you are right there can be a chance that comcast buys warner media if that happens they could dc land in epic universes expansion
@@AttractionIdeas you should do a video about what this type of scenario might look like for Universal Orlando. It’s seems entirely possible that once the WB/Discovery merger finalizes and they start a bidding war Comcast will go all in on it, possibly why they’re biding their time as this would be a Disney/21 a century Fox level acquisition. Would IOA, USF, and the soon-to-be EU have Warner Bros. Discovery IP in their parks? Or would they make a whole park of this IP on its own? According to Theme Park Stop, there just might be enough land southeast of EU to make a fourth gate. Your thoughts?
How amazing all of that will be!! 😭
They probably would only add DC if they completely lost the rights to Marvel. I doubt they would have both in the same park.
i get that dc and marvel probably wouldn’t couldn’t coexist but imagine a “dueling ride” that incorporates both comics into a ride
They could Do a Superman vs Hulk or Thor 3D ride
I’d rather like to see another ride based off some of Warner Bros. cartoon IPs like the looney tunes and Scooby doo.
But then again six flags already has that, but universal could do it better
Thank you SixFlags isn’t using the Looney tunes and DC properties to their full potential . I don’t know if it’s about budget restrictions but to get money you have to spend it .
Oh, absolutely; Scooby-Doo deserves to have a more prominent presence in American parks, especially after being left for dead by Cedar Fair in the late 2000's.
Not only is the franchise as a whole practically immortal, but so is its status as a thematic main-stay during the TAFT and Paramount tenures of King's Island+Dominion+Canada's Wonderland.
Then again, what of Hanna-Barbera characters in general? Flintstones, Jetsons, Yogi Bear; most of these were left effectively orphaned due to management shuffling of what are now Cedar Fair parks. There's an untapped nostalgia vein with these characters; not solely for the series' alone, but (again) their well-remembered presence across parks.
Warner Bros. Abu Dhabi is a shining, albeit out-of-country example of what could be done with the ex-studio's back-catalogue.
And that's not even getting into other odds and ends of long-gone parks that featuted these characters; like Frontier Village in San Jose, or Hanna-Barbera Land in Houston-
Point being, TL;DR, Hanna-Barbera characters deserve a triumphant return to prominence as a desirable theme park IP. It's been done before, it can be done again.
@@chromplex I see it like this if SEA WORLD can give SESAME STREET a theme land in their parks Six Flags have no excuse
@@chromplex agreed, especially with Scooby-Doo.
There’s prolly something in the Marvel contract that would never allow them to have both. They’re competing brands, they can’t market them together and they could never favor one over the other. That’s how licensing works. Harry Potter being in multiple parks works cuz it’s the same property
The concept art for a DC land for Islands of Adventure looked awesome so sure, why not.
Simpsons has had it's best years behind them and the old Back to the Future ride is ready to retire so I expect it to go and Universal will be fine with that.
Marvel isn't going anywhere (thank god, look what crap Disney build for their ip in DL) as it isn't costing Universal a dime (except a percentage for merch). Sure when the thing is milked dead by Disney they will have a change to buy it but I doubt it.
That's really the only way it will ever make sense to let go of Marvel for Universal. Once the MCU has had it's day in the sun and super hero movies loose relevance then it might be time to move on from that IP but until then Universal would be dumb as fuck to let Disney have that IP back in Florida.
Would be a dream come true since they almost went with a Gotham/metropolis land
5:17 this right here is comedy gold. I was literally rolling on the floor laughing. Great video
The skits boost this channel up even more
What’s interesting to think is that Universal originally had interest in DC before creating a deal with Marvel and even had a mock up of Gotham City Land. If Six Flags isn’t smart about this Universal will take those rights. This will be Universals one up on Disney since they’ll now have both properties
I'd see DC at both six flags and universal orlando since there isn't a six flags in Florida so no direct competition.
IT COULD HAPPEN! BUT UNIVERSAL WOULD HAVE TO SIGN A HUGE CONTRACT WITH WB AND DC!
I think a movie-based Gotham/Metropolis land would fit perfectly where Simpson’s is located with a vekoma launched flying coaster, a Batman vs villains dark ride and of course a justice league stunt show. I don’t think a comic style land would work as a) it would be too similar to six flags and b) it would be too similar to marvel land. For 2029/30 it would be the perfect time for an expansion as it would be a good 5 years after epic universe opens
Universal really has Disney bent over the table. As they hold the rights to Marvel in Orlando, if they get this too they’ll really capitalise on Disney. I think it’s great as it will force Bob Cheap-skate to finally take the parks seriously.
I have a friend who has been to both parks and he s told me one of the big difference recently is Universal has geared more toward locals where Disney has focused on tourist due to that’s where the money is
I don’t think they would give up marvel or the simpson’s for DC. Maybe an expansion for epic universe but that’s about it.
I don’t think Universal could have DC and Marvel in the same park, that would likely violate the original licensing agreement Universal made with Marvel. But, I would love to see Universal trade the Marvel rights for Simpsons and then acquire DC. Then we could have both major theme parks fully develop attractions based on both major comic book companies with no restrictions.
There are some problems when it comes to people arguing “Why don’t they build this? They should replace this with this. Etc, Etc.” We forget to think about how much these expansions cost to design, build and run as well as the cost to run the rest of the resort itself. You also have to think of getting people in on your pre existing attractions, besides one big reason Universal brought in WWHP was due to the decline of attendance of the parks following 9/11. There are many more reasons too.
This aged weirdly because of the possible WB Comcast Merger
The cut aways are unparalleled 😂
I like the idea of a Warner Bros World in Orlando. Let's see: WarnerMedia wants to enter the theme park industry, but has been very meticulous and slow for them. I don't blame them, they want to do it well and without attracting so much attention, they know that easily anything they do will be compared to Disney and Universal, for good or bad. Also because they do not have the experience of the sector. However, they already have three theme parks, at least under licenses and part of the profit. But nothing even within the USA, I think they can follow the formula they made with the Abu Dhabi park, an indoor park with different wings for different IPs, including their DC.
I say Abu Dhabi as an example because it would be a good option for Orlando, something different, they do not need the mega park with a lagoon and infinite parking, like Disney and Universal. People would like something smaller, with AC and light to walk in an intermediate day between two other large parks. In addition, in Waner Bros World AB they demonstrated that they can do quality things of a good level and in a relatively small space (important thing for the availability of land, cost and construction in today's Orlando). And I'm sure they would do even better being in Orlando.
They know that Universal would do a great job with DC. Just like they did with Harry Potter. But thinking in the long term, money and knowing that it is its own content, I think it would not be crazy to think of its own park in Orlando, at least something more humble (but well done) compared to the others.
Yes and no. If you were WB and Universal is building up what you consider one of if not your marque IP and wants to do it with your absolute marque IP in Batman/Superman/Justice League in the same way, why not? You get a WB theme park in Orlando that's quality without putting in your own money and getting mostly profits/percentages from it. It's easy money, good for the brands/WB's reputation and gives you a stronghold on a rival entertainment company. It's smooth like butter
Honestly, I've always thought that ever since Disney acquired Marvel and the MCU just exploded in popularity, that should the contracts expire that Marvel would become DC. I mean, what is Six Flags really going to do about it? Yeah, contracts, but that's when Universal calls up Warner, asks for the rights, they contact Six Flags, renegotiate, and then Universal does DC while Six Flags can still just keep their thinly themed rides.
Hulk is easy enough to paint blue and red and make into a Superman ride. Spider-Man would literally just need a Batman reskin, don't even change much of the narrative or locations, just get rid of anything screaming New York and you've got a winner. Doctor Doom screams some sort of Joker thing. The remaining thing is Storm's spinning whatever, and I don't know what you put there because Wonder Woman is the next most popular character, but that ride doesn't really fit for her unless you say it's Linda Carter spinning around, which, that's kind of a lame thing to do for such an iconic character at a theme park. For some reason, I always come to Flash and something with the cosmic treadmill since is keeps getting faster and faster, and it's a more iconic pick for a character than Red Tornado despite that being the most appropriate choice given the nature of the ride. Not to mention, there's this amphitheater thing just outside the land that I've literally never seen any showtimes or listings for that could make room for another ride. And maybe it's just me, but I almost never bother with shops or food at theme parks, and there's so much walking through stuff in the back half of Superhero Landing that feels like it could be used for other rides or something.
Honestly, until the MCU came around, Marvel characters, while popular, don't have the name recognition of the DC characters. They had a thirty year jump on most of the Marvel characters to ingrain themselves into American Pop Culture. Superman (and Supergirl), Batman (and the Bat Family and his Rogues Gallery), Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, everybody knows of them, and then you have them form the Justice League, and if you want, throw in Martian Manhunter and a Hawkman or Hawkgirl when the League's formed. At Marvel, Spider-Man is the face of the company, Hulk is popular because he had a show in the 80s, and the X-Men blew up in the 80s and 90s (of which, the most popular is Wolverine), then you have the Fantastic Four and everybody else that make up a rotating team of Avengers. It just makes sense that DC would work better because there's more names to pull from and make attractions out of that just wasn't very accessible with Marvel back in the 90s when Islands of Adventure was made. Nobody was going to be making a Captain America, Iron Man, or Thor ride at that time, however they were represented in the area and with character interactions, so it's not like they were totally absent.
I mean, I still love Marvel Superhero Landing, but it's mostly for Spider-Man, and I'm not even a crazy DC fan, but there's just something about Universal making something based on the DC properties that gets me excited. Even with as cheap as I'm going about it by just repainting everything, like, oh no, it's closed for a month while they repaint and remove some big character cutouts and put up new ones, but the experiences are still relatively unchanged which means it's not a total loss of your favorite attractions like it has been in a lot of cases at Universal's parks. I see it as a win if Universal got DC.
That good mythical morning intro
Maybe? Warner Bros already has a great relationship with Universal with Potter
Universal should sell the park rights of Simpsons to Disney, then buy Dc from six flags and replace simpsons and maybe everything up to ET with a DC land. Make it Gotham city, or half dark Gotham and bright metropolis. They could maybe put the Hall of Justice in the middle and it can be a Justice League ride. Sort of the equivalent of gringotts. In the Gotham half, they can have a Batman ride, which the queue can be the bat cave. Then the metropolis side can have a Superman ride where the Queue is the daily planet. They really should spare no expense. It should be on the level of the Star Wars land and Harry Potter.
Universal should buy Six Flags Magic Mountain and totally turn that park around to what it should be.
From what I hear there Not to far from each other
@@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789 Magic Mountain is about 35 to 45 minutes north of Universal
@@lanceflx63 cool
I'm just waiting for Universal to capitalize on the recent rise in Anime popularity and add a Shonen Jump land to IoA (you know, since the park is supposed to be based on books)
THIS! It could be rethemed into a city inspired by the Tokyo that everybody knows now with a modern/retro vibe. There are a lot of shows with big potential.
A One Piece land would be the best thing ever. It also fits thematically with IoA being a bunch of Islands.
Knowing Six Flags, Universal probably wouldn't get the rights to DC Comics anytime soon. Also, I have a suggestion for a future Attraction Ideas video: reviewing the pre-Looney Tunes Astroworld mascots, both the 1968 versions and the 1972 Marvel Mcfey and His Enchanted Animals, in a similar manner to how you reviewed the Great Adventure characters. There's a few shows on RUclips [though my personal favorite is the Lester Baseball show, and that is the title too], for reference.
I'm dying with the whisper Yelling in the video !!! :D
also saying not waiting another two weeks for another video is great
This is another great video!!! After the reports of Comcast and viacomcbs combining their companies next year it’s more likely we get a Star Trek land and a Nickelodeon land.
I loved the intro!! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes they should build a DC theme park.
A dc land would be fricking sick as long as they don’t replace superhero island
Would adding a DC Comics land breach the contract with Marvel though?
No actually. In the Marvel-Universal Studios deal the only thing that is stated about a non-compete is that Marvel has to approve non-Marvel characters appearing in the Marvel land itself, not the rest of the park or resort. Here's a link to the deal if you want to take a look: www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1262449/000119312510008732/dex1057.htm
@@AttractionIdeas WHOA that’s so crazy! You would think it would breach it, especially with all the crazy rules about DC and Marvel crossover now
Bruh if they had a marvel and DC theyd be the GOAT park
I’ve played out a trade in my head for years between Disney and Universal for Marvel. Would have to include a lot more than the Simpsons (but I think that would be part of it!) - possibly a lot of miscellaneous properties they acquired from Fox as well as a bunch of $. If they could fund a Re theme basically on Disney’s dime AND get new properties that they own and can use however they want (which universal loves) they might pull the trigger eventually
Remember they once traded Al Michaels for Oswald the Rabbit so anything is possible haha
Glad to see your back.
Good to be back
He does have a nice back doesn’t he
@@gezz5904 lol
If WB decides to give Universal the right to build a DC Comics Land, I think that it should take the place of Marvel Super Hero Island. Retheme the Spiderman ride to the Batman/Superman ride, the Doctor Doom Fearfall to Flash Fall, the Storm Force Accelatron to Wonder Woman Accelatron and the Hulk coaster to the Green Lantern coaster.
2:21 it was disappointing.
But also Shang chi made 300m dollars 💵 at the box office so….
True, but I think just in general getting back into Marvel after the grand finale (Endgame) is going to be tough for a lot of people. Movies being delayed because of the pandemic got a lot people hyped for Black Widow when they originally weren’t excited for it. And the fact it was meh, I think just turned off a lot of people again.
@@AttractionIdeas every time I watch black widow I’m always disappointed with taskmaster.
This would be the final nail for disney world if/when Universal gets DC into its parks 🤭🤣
Six Flags Great Adventure better have DC meet and greets if they want to keep the liscencing.
Trading marvel for the Simpson is a bad offer
Also not to mention the hard part of the Six Flags part is that iirc they are owned by Warner or AT&T now? Or at least has a major share owned by them.
I could maybe see Universal do a deal like the original marvel deal, AKA: Universal owns the rights to DC Properties in theme parks inside Florida specifically (Six Flags doesn't have a park in Florida)
Universal is clearly focusing on Universal Orlando due to the space it provides, just like how Disneyland doesn't get a lot of the dedicated worlds like Disney world, so "But Hollywood can't get it then" would sort of be mitigated by the same virtue.
How about replacing Marvel with DC and being exact composition for Disney
Rumors have it that Warner Bros. discovery is thinking about selling Warner Brothers to NBC Universal as early as 2024 which would be a hilarious
Six Flags right now had a Goldmine with DC! There is even a Huge DC Theme Park in Dubai!
That was a good mythical idea!!!
I think universal would rather give up the Simpsons then let Disney have Marvel. Let’s be real. Disney definitely won’t be using Simpsons in their parks. They will use Marvel. So it’s not just that you lose something but your competition is gaining something. Something huge if they can build new MCU rides. I mean they have screwed it up so far in California. Still I wouldn’t take the chance. You could argue Marvel is bigger than Harry Potter at this moment. It’s definitely close. It’s just not worth letting Disney own the theme park rides. It will be interesting in seeing how Guardians of the Galaxy does in EPCOT. If that brings in a lot of people and actually pulls Universal attendance. That could change things. Idk what the contract says but I think Universal might want to consider building a new Marvel ride within the next 5 years. Just because people get bored with the same old thing. I’m not sure where they would put it though if it was possible. Spider-Man is a great ride still and they have upgraded the Hulk. They’re still the same rides though. Time can also kill an attraction. A lot of variables definitely go into all of this. I’m sure Universal has a plan of sorts for it all. I just can’t imagine that it has anything to do with Disney getting the rights.
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i always loved the history of DC presence in universal parks,i loved the og ideas and how those ideas became marvel super hero island,the most curious thing of the idea about a DC island instead of marvel,would have been the HHN presence in their 12th event at IOA,you instead of carnage the use of a villian like...joker or bane,as a house based on the event knightfall or arkham asylum a serious house on serious earth,so yeah sorry for that,back to the main argument,DONT theme it to the movies,theme it to the comics,even if it has a diferent tone to hero island since that was a tribute to the camp of 90s comics,this DC land would be based on the most modern comics,ooohh also make or retheme a restaurant to "planet krypton" from kingdom come.
I agree about theming it to the comics. It almost feels like Avengers Campus is already outdated and it just opened. Also, a HHN level Arkham Asylum house would be insane
im giving this a like just for the amazing intro
Of course they can. Epic universe can have DC land. Universal can crush them. Thanks for the video.
That would be great. That, and Warner Bros. Discovery (if it's formed in 2022) could buy out MGM and NBCUniversal to beat Disney/Fox at its own game, that would be impressive.
You know government has to approve these purchases and mergers to prevent potential monopoly violations and Comcast merging with Discovery, Warner or anything else right now would be turned down instantly for taking too large of market share. After Disney and Fox, no big five studios will pass merging.
@@nickmoney Oh my. Still, there are unexpected things that have happened.
New Chris Pratt Jurassic World: River Adventure (Mosasaurus, Baby Stegosaurus, Raptor, Blue, Indominus Rex And T-Rex) Life Finds A Way Coming To Celebrating Universal Orlando Resort 30th Anniversary Islands Of Adventure.
If I were Warner Brothers in this position, I would still let Six Flags have the DC rights because they pay an annual fee to have this property in their parks. With Universal also theoretically paying this fee, it would basically just be free money for Warner Bros. Six Flags won't be able to argue with them because they are too over reliant on them for their themes. And Universal won't argue with Warner Bros because that defeats the whole point in the business deal.
5:20 Im crying 🤣
First Marvel is a lot bigger than DC right now, and a lot of people like Marvel or DC and not both. In my case I wouldn’t care about missing the DC land even though I’m a huge Marvel fan
2028 be like:
Universal: Give me dc
Six flags: for the last time no!
Universal: then you don't Give me a choice
Six flags: are you sure you want to do that?
Universal: l could spare you for dc
Six flags: go to hell!
Universal: l'i just go and take it myself!
Six flags: you fool you forgot I am bugs bunny I can't die lol oh come on
Universal: what a coincidence cause l'm a bugs bunny hunter ha! Biiiii-
9:21
I don’t think the price to rename a ride or restaurant would be astronomical. Just change the name and the sign and maybe repaint it. Remember, there’s no theming to remove/modify
they wouldnt need to repaint it Dc doesn't own the colors so yeah really just change an,e and take out any symbols
For many rides this is mostly true, but for rides like Justice League: Battle for Metropolis and the Dark Knight Coaster, they would need to be completely gutted. Adding all this up across 50+ attractions, lands, and shops, Six Flags would still certainly be looking at a hefty to price to pay even with some “cheap” rethemes
There’s nothing I want more here in Florida is a DC theme Park…like the one in Dubai or get rid of marvel at islands of adventure and turn it into a dc land or epic universe …saw the DC rides at six flags they look cheap and boring
I want disney to take away the simpsons so that if universal takes DC disney would know they screwed up big time
SO many good points!
Awesome video….HOWEVER, Spider-Man is NOT more popular than Batman or Superman
I’m a Fan of both Marvel and DC!!!!! They are Awesome
The King is back
There is a probably an anticompetitive clause in the Marvel park rights. So have to give up and void the exclusive rights and with Disney as park competitor then Universal won't give them up.
Here's what can/should happen:
Keep Marvel in Islands. Revamp it. Keep Hulk, revamp Spiderman. Revamp everything else to more relevant Marvel Characters.
Get rid of Simpsons. As much as I love it it's not relevant anymore. Put DC there. That way it's also next to HP which is also Warner Bros
I've got a question. If Universal wanted to, could they make more MARVEL rides?
@@Shark_Builds_Bro thank you, I can see why they would want DC now
I would rather see Warner Bros Discovery build a major theme park in the Orlando area and have an area themed to DC Comics in that park. I wouldn't want to see DC Comics and Looney Tunes characters at a competitor's theme park. I would rather see them at a Warner Bros theme park.
It would be cool to have a DC and Marvel Land.
if I’m universal, there’s no way i’m giving up marvel rights to Disney. Why on earth would you give that away to Disney just for them to steal away all of your customers with innovative new marvel rides ands areas. No way i’m giving that up. Put DC land in the new epic universe park. A perfect place for a new superhero land! gotta keep all the assets you can from Disney, i don’t care how old the marvel land gets lol.
I’ve never seen any walk around DC characters at six flags. Do they only own the characters if there in ride or store form?
No they do have walk-around characters, at least at some of the parks. But, honestly I rarely see them out. The Looney Tunes characters are out more often
Personally, I think Universal would be more interested in Star Trek and Lord of the Rings than trying to go through the headache of getting DC from Six Flags. Also, I think retheming Toon Lagoon to Spongebob would be really smart, especially with the water attractions.
Also, I know my pfp makes me biased, but I'd like to see some anime/manga themed land in an American park. Anime is becoming more mainstream and would attract many teens and young adults.
Unfortunately, Lord of the Rings would probably be just as difficult if not more difficult to acquire with the Tolkien estate being very picky with how they license the property. That being said, since they’ve been able to please JK Rowling and Nintendo, it’s still certainly possible. Star Trek would be easier to acquire though I’m not sure they would want it given the fact Disney has the more popular space franchise in Star Wars. But after the somewhat underwhelming response to Galaxy’s Edge, maybe Star Trek could give Universal a shot to undercut Disney by making a better, more immersive land while also being more true to the source material
dont forget premier parks
What is “Universal Studios Orlando”? Are they changing the name of one of their parks?
But Warner Bros. may want to build their own theme park and by the way where is Warner Bros. Building the theme park I just gave you idea for a future video
They could certainly consider that option down the line, but a lot of their most popular IP is currently tied up in other parks… you’re right that would make for a good video topic
Where do you think you ready to hear it’s The middle of America or what about the moon or Mars what I mean is when the colony is set up But here in United States I do think it’s the middle Of American
Probably would change marvel to dc after building epic universe later on and change simpsons to something else later too
That would be so hilarious if they just swapped licensing agreements and Disney would get marvel and Universal would keep Simpsons that’s such a “don’t fuck with me bro and I won’t fuck with you“ type of vibe
Since universal has the rights for all of marvel, what they should have done is announce an expansion around the time of the 1st avengers movie (2012) so it would be ready in time for infinity war/endgame (2018-19), the 2 highest points of marvel popularity
Basically Universal Studios in 2025 is going to be absolutely gone by 2030. That's going to be a lot of construction walls.
After the Six Flags agreement expires, Universal should expand their agreement with Warner Bros, at they already have an agreement over Harry Potter. Universal could build a DC area in both California and Florida because honestly Universal doesn't need Marvel. I personally could see this happen, just give it at least 10 years. DC could finally get the popularity it deserves. Right now, with movies like Black Adam and Shazam Fury of the Gods, its just going to be the beginning. I love Marvel films but the recent ones (after no way home), and recent Disney films too are such ass if I'm being honest. Universal if finally stepping up its game with upcoming Epic Universe in 2025, and with rise in attendance, again, a DC area could potentially happen and I would love to go there.
As both are Warner Media properties, DC and Looney Tunes go hand in hand so Universal would go after both since they could use the latter to replace Kidzone and Toon Lagoo, as the original entrance for what is now Islands of Adventure was supposed to be Cartoon World featuring Looney Tune Characters
Honestly Universal buying the DC theme park brand during the 2027-8 expiration window and keeping Marvel there would be a killing blow to Disney in Florida since they can make so much theming going on with it like Marvel vs DC with both properties facing each other on both sides of the park. You also got the Super Mario Land also on its way which helps Universal even further.
Here is what i think would make the most sense but is highly unlikely….
Sell the marvel rights back to disney, use some on the money to offer a similar deal with DC (allowing 6 flags to keep their current deal in those specific locations) and the rest to update marvel island...
Marvel island becomes Gotham, completely devoted to batman who has the strongest IP across both franchises in my opinion.
The hulk becomes the bat plane launching out of the bat cave through Gotham,
Spiderman becomes a batman dark ride…there isnt a better superhero character for a dark ride!
Dr doom - 2 face falls
Storm force - Mr freeze cups...something like that
re-open the theatre for a batman stage show.
Universal can then turn other lands at IOA or epic universal into other specific DC characters with a justice league head quarter at Epic Universe.
Disney then go off and make their own marvel land in florida and universal, disney, 6 flags and Orlando all benefit.
No they tried this and got rejected when they were planning this same with looney toons
That was over 20 years ago
30 actually
@@MJPRODUCTIONS8972 yeah but 30 is still over 20
No you forgot about Walt Disney & Comcast deal and Walt Disney announced more Acquire news soon
Been suggesting a reskin for a while. I think it’s logical.
With Cedar Fair considering Pokémon and Six Flags already having DC, I’d say it’s a possibility
Is it here yet?
Man I sure hope so we all know Disney is gonna come calling for marvel so universal needs to come calling for dc! Batman and Superman is huge!
Nobody is coming to Universal Studios for Marvel though. That's the point.
universal needs the peanuts gang in their parks to replace kid zone
Wouldn't be opposed. Cedar Fair currently has the rights, but if and when they relinquish them, Universal may be interested.
It wodu be a shame if six flags went bankrupt so many places in America with out a team park
Oh also. Six Flags may be dead sooner than you think..I was just reminded, I'm not sure about other locations but Six Flags Great America is under class action lawsuit for improper use of fingerprint scanners for season ticket holders.
They have to make 5 installments of payments from 2021 until 2025. Each payment getting higher in payout
It's a shame there is no true AAA dark ride with DC characters.
The superhero Island at usf can be be cut in half. Past Spider-Man, there is nothing to do.
DC comic coming to Universal Orlando resort