An Excruciatingly Deep Dive into the Avatar Theme Park
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2018
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Avatar 2, 3, 4 or 5 will NEVER replace the first one
Yes, that's why they're sequels
Avatar 6 though....
@@SugaryCoyote
... is a mastahpiece! ~here comes the money~
whe... did these movies come out, and I missed them? There's still only one movie still, right? Or what timeline am I in?
TheVeR01 I'm p sure there's I only the first movie. Since the second one doesn't come out till Dec. 2020.
They should have said all the people working there were Navi in reverse-avatar bodies, and have them all act like aliens badly trying to impersonate humans.
David Newgreen it would slightly work too, because Navi can’t breathe the same air as humans
If I think about it cynically, it's probably because it would be a subliminal message about the Na'vi adopting Earthling culture and using their own as a means of profit.
More likely, however, is just that not one Disney Imagineer had this awesome idea. :I
I think people give corporate imagineers too much credit.
Aliens acting like humans acting like aliens acting like humans.
Kyle Frank Yeah, it’d be like a weird reflection of that stereotype of natives building casinos and shit.
disney should have built beastly kingdom as a tie in to the extremely successful and still relevant film beastly (2011) starring alex pettyfer and vanessa hudges
Beauty and the Beast (2017)... Beastly... Fantastic Beasts... Beastly Kingdom... I only cover topics involving beasts
i giggled at this for too long
@@JennyNicholson What are you suggesting? *eyebrow wiggle*
😂😂
When Jenny said beastly kingdom this is exactly where my mind went
I love that the "colonialism is bad actually" movie now has a theme park based entirely on colonialism
Classic Disney!
This whole video, I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, where Jenny would reach a hidden cavern with Na'vi prisoners locked in cages, being experimented on, and desperately trying to tell guests that the stories and pictures in the park were all a lie. It seemed heavily hinted at, with no Na'vi visible in the park and all of the employees acting shifty/awkward when asked about the history.
But alas, that was too clever or perhaps too uncomfortable for Disney to do.
Avatar Land feels like something the nebulous evil company from those movies would make to exploit the Na'vi and their traditions.
@@amityislandchum I don't know if it's actually clever, it would be pretty horrifying PR for the kids to have the entire theme park be essentially a perpetual concentration camp enslaving their heroes. There can't be any ways to free them in the lore otherwise the park has to stop existing, so the kids would just cry and no longer be able to enjoy the facade of the park held up by the humans.
For real, it's yet another reason for why the choice of Avatar is so baffling
Those weird pictures of the Navis working with the humans and all that lore stuff about how great they get along really remind me of those old film reels I've seen oil companies make about my tribe.
"Look at the smiling waving Indians, they are so happy that we've built all these oil rigs on their land providing vital jobs-"
It would be very ballsy if Disney went ahead and added lore about how 90 percent of the Navi died out from measles, and then the survivors were all diabetic because Disney introduced coca cola to them.
godddd that would be so dark
For me, it made me think of this creepy WW2 propaganda film the American government made, filming the Japanese-American citizens they had rounded up to be kept in internment camps. They were filming these scared looking families, with a voice-over saying something along the lines of: "These Japanese-American citizens are so happy to be working hard for our country, and are grateful for the work we're giving them!" I felt so bad.
This comment slaps so hard
@@PissyLissy Jesus
@@PissyLissy That's incredibly unsettling.
What a great alagory for Native American U.S history and relationships."Yeah they love us being here Ah they're not here right now but they taught us their music Yeah!"
"Here's some pieces of plastic you can put on a string to replicate their look. Here's their skin as a costume. They're cool with this I promise. No, you can't ask them right now."
@@aurora5481 right
@@aurora5481 "Also yeah when we first came we were murderous dicks but the second time around we sent a nicer group and it was aaaaall fiiiiine even if w did basically the same again"
It's almost poetic
Avatar both appropriates Native American culture AND dehumanizes them, it’s an impressive feat of ignorance.
its unintentionally ironic. its laughably sad
My favorite thing about Avatar is that there are countless horror movies that have essentially the same plot of the movie if it were told from the Naavi perspective. An alien species lands on your native planet and start controlling genetically engineered lookalikes of your species to try and take over. Avatar or Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Oh my god you’re right! Why didn’t Disney think of this lmao
What's even scarier is that both Avatar and Invasion of Body Snatchers feature pods as a key plot point, as a convenient invasion technique. Coincidence... I wanna say not, but then Jenny's glowing pod just brainwashed me to plant all those strange seeds being mailed to us, so I'm now forced to deny any of the pod's questionable actions.
Earth man's method of trying to connect with another planet's inhabitants in this film is like White people trying to connect with an African tribe by wearing Blackface. It's demeaning, insulting and creepy.
H.G Wells: Hmm... if only someone could write a novel about this?
Actually Avatar is a [overly long and boring ] remake of "Dances with Wolves" and "Pocahontas"
Revisiting this video 3 years later the day after Jenny uploaded a _four hour_ video about the Evermore theme park and it's adorable how this "excruciatingly deep dive" was (barely) under an hour.
came here for the exact same reason lol
I literally found a comment I made when this video first came out that’s like “idk if my commitment issues can handle an hour long video about a theme park I don’t care about”.
Fast forward 3 years when I watched the 4 hour long Evermore video in one sitting, with no hesitation, even though I have even less free time now 💀
@@artemiswolf4508 ME MAN ME TOO
* me too man me too
I too watched this video for the billionth time. It's just so wild to see a park with some issues but the genius of imagineers behind it in comparison to a park with an imaginative millionaire behind it. I think it's fascinating to compare the two. Where there are both honest critiques but one is...keenly detailed, thought out,and funded to the brim
The idea that a single card translates "bladder polyp" is incredibly insane to me.
and the fact that the word is so shortened makes it seem like it’s an extremely common, almost slang word. what’s up bladder polyp
not to mention, she got duplicates, so there probably arent very many total words in the deck. so bladder polyp was a high priority word 1) for the linguists who invented the language na'vi to translate 2) for them to print on those cards ??
My guess is either 1) whoever was in charge of picking out words to use chose "bladder polyp" at random as a way to indicate Na'vi had their own medical terminology, 2) Jenny unfortunately bought a pack that just got a ton of duplicate cards, and/or 3) the Na'vi have terrible urinary tract infection issues due to the pollution and environmental destruction from the humans continually stripmining their resource-rich planet, so much so that they ended up developing this word as a way to indicate this was a nasty symptom of their failing health.
@@thejasminedragonmerchant6843my burdened heart believes our world can handle the latter and in Avatar 3 we explore a volcano where they cured Na'Vi Cancer with just like, ash and spit. It's my right
"Bladder Polyp" is the name of some alien plants that grow on the surface of Pandora, so I assume that that is what it is referring to. However, that does mean that someone decided to name a plant "bladder polyp" and no one decided that there should be a different name.
ah yes, my favorite avatar character, *Na'vi Female*
I like this character with my HUMAN BRAIN... *INSERT SMILE HERE*
My new waifu
I’ve watched this video more times than I’ve seen the Avatar movie
Me too, and I’ve only watched this video once.
I actually finished this video.
Yeah, me too, but I’d like to watch Avatar 2
Bro
@@esayers I can't listen to her when I'm trying to fall asleep, because her commentary is interesting. And that kind of wakes me up.
It's been many years, and I am still so charmed by the employee who says 'have you watched the documentary? This is many years after', as if that's how you talk about documentaries that came out a few years ago. Gonna start saying 'have you watched Walking with Dinosaurs? Well this is many years after that' when I'm next at a zoo
im SO glad someone is finally talking about that line bc i think about the wording choice constantly
“Have you seem Hamilton? This takes place many years after that.”
I feel like a more normal phrasing would be "Have you seen Avatar? It's a very outdated documentary, but still worth watching." That functions both as a promo and context I'd think.
"Did you watch that really old documentary, uh... 'Avatar' or something like that? Y'know, the one that showed some of the first interactions between us and Na'vi, that one. Yeah, it's got some interesting info, but it came out pretty soon after that stuff happened, which was, what, like... thirty years ago at least, wasn't it? It's pretty outdated at this point, I think the rusted out military equipment speaks for itself."
It's definitely long, but it's casual, and feels more organic. That's how I would've handled it, at least.
@@theflyingspaget idk "outdated" sounds like the movie is not canon and has the connotation that it's bad
Imagine what kind of hell the Na'vi live in, where bladder polyps are so common they have a _one syllable word_ for them.
I imagine UTIs are so common its just like
hey man wanna go ride banshees?
can't
'nother bladder polyp?
yeah :((((
Pretty sure it's a plant, like bladder wrack on our planet.
Universal Studios got Harry Potter World because Disney didn’t want to build a TRAIN? Walt is probably rolling in his train-loving grave
Not just that. They basically really cheaped out on the entire plan. They told JK that they weren’t going to build hogwarts or the train. They offered to build a magical creatures petting zoo (with an animatronic) and a shooting game ride where you fight dark creatures with your wand. Lots of smaller disagreements too, like wanting Disney merch in the Harry Potter shops, character interactions with Harry and the other main cast, and branded items like Coca Cola
Their pitch was also super basic too- I think Yesterworld covered it with how badly they botched their pitch. They really undervalued how much money they could have made with Harry Potter. And then they put a ton of money into a film people mostly thought had good effects but an uninteresting/problematic story
I can't believe I forgot how much Walt loved trains, god he'd have been ALL over that train concept! plus doesn't HP just have that feel to it that Walt would've been adamant about incorporating into the park? I feel like he would've viewed it the same way he did Mary Poppins and Winnie the Pooh, at least the first 3 books
Oh, watch the galaxy’s edge video, she goes IN on it.
"Walt [Disney] is probably rolling in his...* grave."
Good.
(*edit: train-loving, union-busting, HUAC-informing, etc.)
They really missed an opportunity here by not creating an authentic Pandora park where the atmosphere is extremely poisonous to humans and if you don't wear a breathing mask at all times you will die.
And if they were going to go that far, they should have just made it a Nausicaa themed park. It's about as culturally relevant anyway...actually, that would be pretty cool...
Bimon1234567
Gods that would be SO GOOD
@@dardend4155 I WANT THAT THEME PARK NOW. To keep the immersion they should also revive the God Warriors to exterminate mankind, just for good measure
Yeah im surprised they didn't build it in California too.
Check the end of the vid. Disney asspulled a magic plant that makes the air human-friendly
I don't know what's worse. The fact that they head literally only one Navi and it was shown only briefly at the end of an otherwise underwhelming boat ride, or the fact that that one Navi was literally the _best_ animatronic I have ever seen in my entire life. How in the hell could they not make room in their budget to build atleast a few more of those??? Like maybe one that plays drums for the drum show??? Or one that's like a guide that tells you were to find different things in the park?????? It'd be one thing if they couldn't make a convincing Navi animatronic but if they can make them _that_ good then I can literally think of dozens of places they could have put these things. Like, I'm sure they're probably very expensive but for the love of god it is DISNEY they have basically infinite money.
it was a ten million dollar animatronic, and the amazing as it is, it's never going to be fully paid for; it's massive and complex (I believe at the time it was built it was the most intricate animatronic ever created) and disney has to keep robotics staff on hand to maintain and repair it when it malfuctions, which i'm told it does fairly frequently. I'm pretty sure that it has to be lowered to the reapir area every night with security cameras on it to be in a state of constant simple motion because of the fear from imagineers that if the dang thing stops, it'll never start again. With a complex robot like that, it's not a matter of if it'll break down, but when and for how long.
now take those logistics and add another two equally expensive and complex robots. the costs in staffing for maitanence alone would be astronomical.
@@hinoname3954 counter point: Disney has billions and billions of dollars
@@degiguess sure, but those have to be divided SO many ways. Entertainment and merch production and distribution, multiple parks and hotels, ip acquisition, payroll for roles by the millions ect. If you broke it down it makes complete sense that they wouldn’t have money to route toward even TWO more animatronics that would cost ten of millions EACH to design, program, build, and operate when they struggle to maintain one and the park is “sufficient” as is. At least not until the ip has brought in more money via the next movie.
Ok but they have billions of dollars and Disney is a money printing factory quickly acquiring every thing surrounding it. We want more animatronics. I agree that it would be way to problematic logistically to have it anywhere in the park in plain sight, but like, stick in slightly more obscure places.
Apparently, it's barely functional and shuts down all the time
I'm wondering how the park is going to deal with the changing canon of the Avatar Universe? The second movie’s depiction of Earth-Pandora relations is quite far from the harmonious co-existence of the park's lore. The cast member's innocuous comment shown in the video “What happened with the RDA will never happen again” really has a darker undertone now.
i can only assume that the story of the park now takes place in a different canon or something
The third Avatar should be completely about reconciling the difference between the world of the theme park and the story of Avatar 2. You could even go the extra mile and film scenes at the park with employees playing their own characters in a sort of bizarre crossbreed of Escape from Tomorrow and Jimmy Cameron's Avatar. It would be totally insane, and terrible, and I would love it.
Hey! I actually work at Flight of Passage! So the whole point of the park is it Takes place over a generation after the 5th movie. But also James Cameron, planned Pandora after he wrote the main parts of the scripts for the most of the movies.
Basically pur story is meant to be completely selective from the main story. ACE came in later to try and fix everythinf
@@jasonfenton8250 Escape from Tomorrow was so bad though
Avatar 2: "It happened again."
The Na'vi now live on reserves, hidden from tourists. But they're perfectly OK with it guys! The -propaganda- pictures and notes on the walls prove it!
I feel like it’s much more sinister than that. Those “air-purifying” pods probably poisoned the air for the Na’vi. That, and human diseases probably killed them all off. The Na’vi in the pictures were probably the last few left as the park was completed (probably with slave labor).
"Smile for the picture and you get extra gruel rations, filthy blueskin!"
It’d be awesome if there was a deep deep backstory where the Navi execute a WestWorld style takeover of the ACE park
i need an entire lore video
Maybe the sequels will explain this? If anyone watches them?
This is like bad appropriation of a culture that doesn't exist.
The _best_ kind of appropriation.
Courtney Johnson isn’t the Na’vi face paint essentially like alien blackface
@@fyrefrost1898 Yeah but only Americans lose their shit when they see people painting their faces to resemble other people. The only reason why Europeans cease to uphold their centuries' old traditions that involve people with their faces painted black is because American media and political personalities practically bully them into it, even though nobody there seems to have a clue what the hell is even supposed to be wrong with it.
@@yarpen26
tl;dr Blackface in Europe has different, less insulting historical connotations than it does in America, but for the most part it's still quite common where traditionally applicable. Also I personally would have liked to see some references to American history regarding the Na'vi's similarity to Native Americans and how ACE is different than RDA (and thematically, America) despite the results of their encroachment on Na'vi land being extremely similar(No Na'vi around except in pictures showing how happy they were to have ACE moving in).
I currently live in the Netherlands and I can assure you, Black Pete (blatant blackface, though far less demeaning than American Vaudeville) is very much alive and well. Although I have to say I agree with Jenny on the weird, sinister overtones of normalizing the aftermath of colonialism. I don't think this was done on purpose -- the park's designers were probably just making it based on what they see as the best outcome of a foreign (and definitely capitalist since this is an American park owned by an American company) people settling in an already inhabited land -- but by trying not to have a political message despite the very political themes of the Avatar movie (specifically in regards to nature vs industrialization and natives vs settlers) ends up having a very similar effect to trying to bury a violent past beneath a mask of cooperation.
This is just my two cents, but I think if Disney had embraced the thematic similarities between the Na'vi and the Native Americans and mixed in just a few tasteful references to American history, the park could have ended up far more meaningful to people since many -- dare i say most -- Americans have a stronger emotional connection to American history than the Avatar movie. I can see why they didn't do this since it would open them up to criticism from both liberals and conservatives, but I think it would have done added a lot more to American culture than just another place to spend money trying to forget which world you live in.
@@yarpen26 There's a big difference between painting your face black for longstanding cultural reasons and painting your face black specifically to caricature or make fun of people with darker skin.
Some day I will make an earth themed theme park, with human flesh colored candy popcorn.
The fan forums make this extremely charming for me. I wonder how many of those people have visited Pandora since it opened. I know it was the biggest movie of 2009 or something but for fandom purposes it’s tiny and obscure. Imagining a giant property taking your tiny obscure fandom thing and then making it into a million dollar totally immersive disney world park…I hope they like it
God that is the dream right? I hadn't thought of it that way.
avatar is atually the #1 grossing movie of all time
@@banchii1576
And that’s pretty much the only reason anybody remembers it even exists
@@SharkyMcSnarkfaceMust've worked twice then seeing as the second film is the 3rd highest grossing
@@banchii1576 and yet how many people could actually sit down and tell you the whole plot of either of the avatar movies though? 🤭
Plot Twist: they finally open Beastly Kingdom, but it's really just a huge park devoted to the movie Beastly
The comment I needed
🤣🤣🤣😅
This is the best one
Thanks for the gut laugh oml
YESS!
Ironically the Avatar theme park seems to do a better job of illustrating the evils of colonialism than the actual movie.
The movie is hamfisted and the villains mustache-twirling caricatures. The park works because it is eerie and unintentional due to dissonance between the reality of the park and the lore and exacerbated by certain budget limitations and constrained creative decisions.
The worst part of the movie was when the life tree thing basically declared earth and humans irredeemable non-life and the protagonist's only option to be worthy of the dignity afforded sentient life was to cease being a human and cut himself off from the embodied existence that gave birth to his soul, to his family and to all his ancestors whose evolution was the very font of every good and compassionate impulse he had toward the Na'vi. It broke immersion and told the audience, "You are past redemption." And no one can be spiritually fed by a church of no salvation, which is what the movie's lesson became.
But when you go to the park, you are you, and you come with your own existence, and the official lore says, "Actually humans are fine." The impulse to problematize the situation then comes from inside the more thoughtful guest, and they can extend it as far as they want it to go, without having to be speceistically misanthropic. No one's forcing the narrative that your race is entirely evil down your throat, so you can approach the situation from a more nuanced and realistic and less Manichean perspective.
@@Hesperell ...Except for the fact that the main protagonist (Jake Sully) was the only one to permanently transfer into a Na'vi, as I recall. All the other scientists, y'know, the other human protagonists, got to stick around as humans on Pandora at the end of the film. And I'm fairly certain his desire to change permanently had more to do with wanting to stay with the love of his life (and not be confined to a wheelchair, and be able to breath the local atmosphere) than it did some weird species-based self-flagellation. Besides, if the remaining human forces were truly supposed to be "past redemption" in the films view, why are they allowed to leave rather than being executed after the climax of the film?
So good job on philosophising, too bad it's all built on a big misunderstanding.
But in any case, the fact that you're so deeply insulted by the idea of a sci-fi film saying "Actually humans are a bunch of dicks" (hardly new ground for the genre), even when it DOESN'T say that, speaks volumes about you. It says that you're so rooted in a tribalistic view of the world that even when presented with an entirely fictitious human vs. aliens set-up, you get offended by the humans behaving in a way that humans have done numerous times in our history; i.e. a technologically superior group presuming that it has a right to the resources held by an indigenous population, and waging war to get them simply because it's easier than the alternative.
If an entirely theoretical example of that happening is enough to offend you, I hate to think what your reaction to real life atrocities is. But I can take a guess...
saunz departier It doesn’t work though because I don’t care if that’s the moral. Humans ain’t shit.
Yea it's funny to think about it. It's practically poetic. A movie where space indians have their ecosystem destroyed by colonial marines. And they lay some concrete and chop trees down in a land located in the continent where it all actually happened.
@@Geothesponge111 I love how the villains of the movie were literally gonna massacre an entire race, erase a culture and destroy an ecosystem just for a profit (the mineral they're searching for isn't even essential to survival, it was purely for profit since they mentioned it sold for a shit ton), but they're mad that the god tree thing decided that maybe humans aren't all that great lmao
Genuinely can't imagine anything I'd find harder to deal with psychologically than a performer making consistent eye contact and then handing me a gourd to shake
Literally every time a RUclipsr complains about a motorcycle outside or something similar, I’ve never been able to hear it and their complaint about it is just me taking them on faith that it even happened
Same with whenever a RUclipsr warns of their audio being bad because they're sick. I've only noticed it once with Quinton Reviews's last Sam & Cat video and he looked like he was dying in that part.
#GetJennyNicholsonAPressPassForStarWarsLand
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@MrNiesGuy it's too long.
She works there or used to at least. Maybe not in that specific area but the park.
I approve of this message.
really catchy and easy to read it'll catch on very well let's go
Love how Disney managed to culturally appropriate something they invented
@@ThelouwseFD That was even worse. Like they had so many people work so hard on something that they were hired for, only for it to turn out perfect and get discarded
This shouldn't even be technically possible. No, it isn't.
@@ThelouwseFD thanks for the recommendation, that was depressing :I
It's almost impressive in its oddity
@@ThelouwseFD that video lives in my head rent free. What a stunning example of hubris, such a waste of money and talent. I want to see it adapted as a Greek tragedy
The idea that in the future employees won't have lunch-breaks is realistic world-building.
So I recently went to see Avatar 2 and I realized midway through that everything I know about the franchise is from this one video Jenny made, which I've rewatched at least 5 times. I don't think I ever even saw the original Avatar movie?
what a realisation
Good for you! I saw it, and it left no impact whatsoever. Which arguably makes the 162 minutes I spent watching it an even bigger waste than if I'd spent it watching two shorter, actively bad movies.
Avatar's pretty good, I recommend watching it at least once
Please, don't use a question mark if you aren't literally asking a question. Now you're asking the people on the Intenet if you think that way or not.
@@seriouscat2231 serious cat should be more chill cat
"What happened with RDA will never happen again" had the same energy as "there is no war is Ba Sing Se"
Alpha Industries are still a for-profit company, it will happen again, in the same way the East India Company gained favour in India over their european rivals for being the most culturally sensitive and least violent... until they could make more money by being violent that is
avatar meet avatar
@@spinecho609 you may be overthinking this
@@TheRambunctious ironically, this is a joke comparison, so you instead may be overthinking this
@@roelin360 did I ask?
So people turned up, befriended the natives, learned their culture, wiped them out and then sold it off?
I thought this was meant to be a fantasy park.
That is the ultimate fantasy
@@BradTheAmerican are you joking?
@@benedictdwyer2608 Yes
@@BradTheAmerican ok, I was just worried you actually thought this was a completely fictional thing, or thought it was a good thing that that happened to the Native Americans
@@benedictdwyer2608 I'd usually put /s at the end to note sarcasm but this time I thought the absurdity of it would make that more obvious. However, given that there are literally people out there who say things like that with actual sincerity, maybe I should have put it there anyway.
I loved this. Jenny has a special way of delivering her material - it’s this blend of earnestness and sarcasm. You never quite know which one it is.
Agreed. The best I can put it into words is that she uses this ethereal, innocent tone while saying things that just drip with irony. It's awesome.
@@lethargogpeterson4083 She reminds me a lot of April from Parks and Rec (in terms of mannerism and humor)
i think this park concept is especially insidious given how much it parallels the actual issues with tourism in hawaii, where tourism extremely negatively affects kanaka maoli and causes rent prices to skyrocket and huge amounts of cultural appropriation and homelessness. not to mention problems like police brutality, where kanaka maoli are disproportionately the victims of police compared to white settlers. it really shows a lack of respect for any indigenous people at all, even without the cheap headdresses, drum circles, and fake turquoise. an indigenous paradise that has been completely stripped of indigenous people, except for their easily consumable culture, is a colonizer’s dream.
Completely agree, Kanaka Maoli born and raised in Hawai’i and I can help but think about the packaged experiences you get when your at a resort. I think because the way James Cameron created the Navi was WAY too close to western ideas of native cultures - especially native Americans, it’s almost impossible to not draw similarities to real life history. Growing up I LOVED avatar because it felt like a “what if” story of the people who malama aina came out on top so the land can give back to us. I only recently learned that Cameron never really had much respect for the cultures he was taking inspiration from, and this is an even more diluted version of his vision.
Don't forget thw horrible cultural appropriation in the actual avatar movies and James Cameron's comments about hoe native american genocide happened because they didn't try hard enough. This whole franchise is built on appropriation and justification of colonialism
How does one become an evil colonizer?
@seriouscat2231 it's quite easy, all you have to do is find some land which belongs to someone else and start colonizing! Fun for the whole family!
@@falconstudios146 So basically Blackrock?
Could you imagine if, in Disneyland, they had a Peter Pan show that was just a random guy in loose fitting clothing explaining that, while he wont be showing up, Peter taught him how to fly and fight pirates (who also wont be showing up)?
sounds like all the fun!
“I know a place just like that...”-
Stares dreamily of into space
That is the most random comment I have seen
Steven Irizarry
Why doesn’t it surprise me it was pinned by Jenny
This my good sir was a very good comment - thank you
You'd think the translator would be a great product if they just had a ton of Navi writing around the park and you point the thing at it like a QR code, and so people who buy them would just get the novelty of a ton of little easter eggs around the park.
That... makes too much sense.
The problem with this is that I am pretty sure that the Na'vi officially have not developed writing, so...
@@anteroinen4239 maybe during the time between the war with humans and them selling their land to a tourism company they made a written language
@@feelmypuddle4963 Eh, considering their culture and the environment it seems pretty unlikely. It isn't like the Na'vi need it for anything, since it seems they've still kept themselves to a totally nomadic lifestyle. I am sure their linguist told them as much (it sounded like he was the one pronouncing stuff from the cards by the way, adorable, I love that he's still working on this stuff).
Anteroinen maybe it’s humans writing in Na’vi? I’m learning Lakota (and they don’t have a written languages) so I put little labels on all the things in my house so I can look at them and call them by their Lakota name
I still can't believe that Jenny didn't talk about where we _did_ end up with Beastly Kingdom (even though it's mostly gone now).
The Imagineers basically rolled up their designs and went...to Universal. Where they then pitched and constructed The Lost Continent at Islands of Adventure. Anyone ever think Dueling Dragons had Disney-level queue theming? Now you know why.
I’m glad I got to experience DD before it was killed. Fun ride.
@@Andystuff800 TBF better the ride die than any of its riders
@@Andystuff800 I got lucky being there on a cold (for Florida) day so there was no line at DD and I did it 3 times in a row before I got post-ride churros from the stand outside the entrance. Top notch experience. I'm convinced that whatever Harry Potter bullshit is on the spot now can only be a downgrade.
I do need to know how well theme park canon squares with The Way of Water canon, like, right away
fun fact - Animal Kingdom doesn't use the "natahzu" tag anymore bc they were recognized officially by the zoological association, and they are actually a zoo now. I learned that when I was working there, and I died.
"Eetzahzu!!"
I'm assuming they carried you off the premises before pronouncing you dead? Gotta maintain that "no one's ever died here" line.
So now it's *ahzu*
@@lemonferret This whole thread was worth it just for you my friend
A few employees called it “nah-tah-theme-park”, because for tax purposes it was a zoo.
I recently went to the Avatar park and I can’t believe you didn’t mention the giant Na’vi head that’s displayed in the gift shop. It looks like they beheaded the leader and used it as a warning to other Na’vi.
The WHAT
Ella Powell Seriously!! It’s a beautiful statue but the implications are fucking terrifying!!
15:44 it’s right there lol
It's also a warning to never mention it's existence.
That gets more unsettling when you consider how the Na'vi are Native American coded, and white people displaying/selling the decapitated heads of natives was a pretty common practice during the 17th and 18th century.
I love that she's surrounded by the merch as she details how ridiculous and over priced it is.
I’m not into dark headcanons but this whole park feels like “friendly” corporation killed all the navi (except one and she probably lost her mind at this point) and lie to tourist for money.
Also that idea of a empty navi body being forever stuck to that flying lizard thingy (which is presumably sentient enough and not an empty body) is nuts 😂
The “natahzu” ad campaign strikes me as embarrassingly self-conscious, especially for such a huge, successful corporation.
What strikes me now is that they don't actually say what it IS if not a zoo.
"It's Natazhu!"
"Cool, what is it then?"
"Natazhu!"
Hey look, it's a perfect description of the last years of Eisner's career with Disney :'D
@@EngineerLume bruh.. natazhu= not a zoo??
@@johng8837 Yeah. DId you not make the connection?
@@EngineerLume They'd probably say something like "it's an *experience"*
Where are all the Na'vi?
*Buys skin-like Na'vi t-shirt*
Huh, I wonder where they all are?
*Buys authentic pair of Na'vi ears*
Oh well, I guess they went...elsewhere
*Buys Na'vi tail*
_They've been there the whole time just offscreen!_
😂😂😂
*TO SERVE MAN!!! IT'S A COOK BOOK!!!*
OH NO
NO WAIT. *WE'RE THE NA'VI NOW*
*WE'RE TURNING INTO FURRIES*
If colonialism wasn't enough, you can also walk around their homeland wearing Na'vi face!
The Hogwarts train thing in Florida's Universal Studios is fucking awesome ngl I'm glad they built it. I've never even seen Harry Potter but it was one of my favorite parts of my trip. They have screens on the windows so you can look out the across the same landscapes as the movies, and the doors also have screens that play the silhouettes of characters walking, talking, and getting into shenanigan's in the hallway. It really makes you feel like you're on a magical train from a movie. So, very, very, VERY rare good decision on J.K Rowling's part.
Also Disney REALLY underestimated just how important the train is to Harry Potter fans. Like the idea of riding the Hogwarts train and getting to try butterbeer is more than enough to get them out there and spending money
The issue didn't sound like it was with the train, but with Rowling wanting the train to reverse along the track rather than looping
So many things about this that I’m going to be thinking about for the rest of my life. The pod. The kid who didn’t know there’s a movie. The $80 ugly doll. The ball. The cashier who called it “the documentary”. The translator. This video changed my life
The man with one ear fully stretched with a collection of earrings.
My question is:
Can you race those pods?
That ear thing was horrible. If he nods his head too fast, he's going to break his earlobe.
Iconic tbh
Abdega Now this is podracing.
the imperialism implications of the idea of "get your face painted like this native species that has now disappeared" are dizzying
It's (albeit made-up culture) cultural appropriation!
@@eteline_music i mean in context isn't it like... analogous to blackface?
@@thomasstone3480 Yeah, it is. Or, more accurately, those racist Native American Halloween costumes
I cannot wait for Avatar 2's butterfly wings to appear as purchasables in this theme park.
Because they exist in the movie solely for that singular purpose - to be merchandise.
The butterfly wings exist for Cameron's Jesus allegory to have visually obvious angel wings.
Oh, when I saw wide-eyed Kiri sailing through the water with the butterfly wings and the gold glowing fish, my immediate thought was the doll they would make of it.
that did not occur to me at all while watching, i was kind of just baffled by their inclusion in terms of plot
So, coming back from Way of Water, I have to wonder how they’re going to explain the whole thing where RDA returns with a vengeance and completely obliterates a huge chunk of the forest to build a city. It certainly makes ACE seem all the more sinister…
The theme park apparently takes place over 100 years after the first movie, so basically any Avatar movie that comes out would be earlier in the timeline than the park.
taken to the most extreme conclusion: pandora the theme park is subliminal colonialist propaganda
i dont think thats an extreme conclusion, i think thats just a conclusion. the correct one.
How would those unassuming natives know how awesome civilization is if we didn't force it down their throats while taking all their resources? Don't be ridiculous.
That’s honestly the vibe I got from the whole video, so I came to 3 possible conclusions:
1-it’s very upfront colonialist propaganda, so I just spotted it easily
2-it has subtle colonialist undertones, but I’m too much of a SJW to miss them
3-I hate Avatar so much that I just want everything related to it to be horrible
The truth is probably a combination of the three: it was very obertly colonialistic, I’m a SJW and I hate Avatar.
The Nicer Colonists do Nicer Genocide so isnt it way better!? :)
Yeah that's it.
Okay but the only Navi being in the cave singing alone.. also just adds to the overwhelming sense of dread here. Like, shes the last one--hiding out and singing out her pain of the brothers and sisters shes lost to yet another evil earthling company
And since Alpha Centauri Expeditions has basically destroyed her homeland, the only way she can put food on the table is to perform for these tourists all day. (Do you think she gets paid an actual wage and has to visit the Cantina to buy food, or that she's just paid directly in rations? Does any entity with jurisdiction over Pandora enforce labor laws?)
There's more than just her in the forest of the ride and the echoing voices in the river ride is supposed to echo the others in her tribe.
Also the pods make the air breathable for humans, but wouldn’t that make it toxic for the Navi? So now they’ve introduced a foreign and invasive plant that has taken over the planet to the extent that the atmosphere is completely hostile for the Navi and they’ve been driven underground. 😂 The meta is insane.
@@wolffisu Or the severed spirits of her massacred people, wailing in agony for all time.
That cave Na'vi is a vibe and a half
Bro the "grow your own Avatar" experience is like when you made a Mii based on a photo and it just completely roasted you
Watching this after seeing the real Avatar 2 makes me wonder... How many years after the series does ACE come in to appropriate the Navi culture given the fact it's even more clear how many issues and trauma the presence of humans in Pandora caused.
they need to embrace that ACE is post-colonization and genocide of the na'vi
I don't see why they felt the need to add lore to the theme park because every in lore explanation is real weird
Supposedly it takes place after avatar 5
“Lady we will give you whatever trains you want”
@Kurt E. Clothier don't they have a train that you take from the alley to the second section? It's like a big thing and I think the only way to get to that second area
Thus, they properly appeased the Train Gods, and so their theme park did well, unlike SOME theme parks
Luckily Star Wars Land learned from previous mistakes
they definitely didn't say "lady we'll give you whatever trans you want"
I was dying at this
@@d36williams Unless whatever trans she wanted was none.
Wait...Na'avi headbands with ears, Na'avi skin shirts, Na'avi tails; THAT's where the Na'avi have gone!
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
Avatar flavoured popcorn.
The answers were right in front of us the whole time.
Soylent Green is Na'avi!!
im going to get myself a Na'vi hand ashtray!!!
holy shit you're right
I really love how Jenny is unashamedly enthusiastic about her interests but also isn’t snobby or gatekeep-ey and doesn’t assume we have prior knowledge about topics.
23:17 I love that the writers couldn't come up with a more descriptive adjective for RDA's mining practices than 'bad'.
I feel like "war crimes" would've been a better description.
I went to the Tower of London right before the pandemic hit, and they had actors playing the role of one of the kings getting up in the morning, with his servants and stuff. They asked me where i was from, and when I said America, the king said "that sounds Spanish" and asked me to point to it on their extremely old world map that definitely did not have the USA on it. I just pointed off the end of it and said that it was around there? And i'll never forget the look he shot me--the most perfect "sounds fake but ok" i've ever experienced.
Hats off to those actors, they had to basically do what the people at immersive theme parks do, but with the added burden of actually trying to teach history!
I was told once that if you go to Plimoth Plantation in Massachusetts that if you mention Philadephia, they think you're talking about a bible verse.
I wish they put that sort of effort into the London Dungeons post pandemic (technically within-pandemic, but I'm referring to post-1st-year-of-pandemic) - I went just after New Years 2022, and all of the cast members/staff were wearing plain or boring/standard masks, and I was so disappointed that none of them - ESPECIALLY the ones in the PLAGUE section - were wearing London Dungeon branded Plague Doctor styled masks!!! I was really hoping they had some new merch in the giftshop specifically about the plague bc it was the OBVIOUS choice to me on how to make MAD bank, and yet, NOTHING!
The only nod to the current plague situation was the moment where the cast member says* "be careful out there, there's a plague in London!" And everyone went "👀💀 (sigh) we KNOW"
Such a wasted opportunity 😭
*this section was a standard part of the show well before C-19, with the only change to the show being the distance between staff + guests + the addition of masks + sanitiser gel stands
Same thing happened when I visited Dover Castle and the actor looked at the blue Powerade I had brought with me and suspected it was going to kill me.
That’s actually hilarious. I don’t remember anything specific they said when I visited the Tower of London but I remember the docents were all super in character with the history and had good rapport with everyone! Kinda like a historical ren fairs vibe
@@doctorwholover1012 that would be cool but it’s also kind of unlikely they’d want to make merch about it since people who have survived it or never got it will think it’s fun but people who had family members or friends recently die from it or were hospitalised by it probably wouldn’t like that it’s been used as fuel for fun merch. Yes, we all call it a plague as a joke, but it wasn’t that long ago and it’s actually still going on so there’s not the same amount of distance from pain that there is with the Black Plague, theres still people alive now who are grieving or who are suffering long term side effects (me ☹️) so it’s tricky. Really any company is going to do what is least likely to get them in trouble while still making as much money as they can 🙄 Also the plague doctor mask things sound cool but the staff working there definitely are better off to be wearing masks that keep them safe and probably have to conform to some standards. It’s better it’s a bit immersion breaking if it means the staff are safe. You’ve got some really cool ideas though! I’m British btw 🙈
"It's not a zoo" is the type of campaign that makes it seem like they're squirreling around some animal safety laws.
That’s a Disney move if I ever saw one
„It‘s not just a zoo“ would have sounded a lot more appealing and less ominous
@@manospondylus4896 i can't find it anymore but i read a comment here saying they actually did this because they legally couldn't call it a zoo when it launched.
@@atomheartother Damn. What was the reason they couldn‘t?
@@manospondylus4896 i wish i had more information but this is a very vague memory of a comment i read somewhere... But I'm sure googling will yield some results x3 but iirc the "zoo" denomination is actually a specific legal thing and they couldn't get it by the time it opened for SOME reason, like you can't just put animals in a park and call it a zoo
The panther/predator/black dog creatures in avatar could be implemented in the Na'vi River Journey in such a cool way. At the beginning of the ride you could say, see one hiding in the brush staring at you, then see a pack of them in the distance strategically making their way around the tourists, and then have a jump scare moment with an animatronic, so it's like a hunting scene. All the while you could hear twigs cracking, the creatures communicating in yips like you're about to be pounced by a pack of coyotes
I think you could cobble together the ideal theme park afternoon for me out of some of these elements:
1. outdoor drums for my toddler to drum on
2. the same video plays over and over, another thing my toddler loves
3. boat ride in the dark where I can nap
4. refreshing mist sprays in my face
Oh I sent that too quickly, just got to the part about the cold drink with rum.
My actual favourite thing is how enthusiastic Jenny is in all theme parks and you can never quite tell if it's ironic or genuine because she uses the same deadpan tone of voice for everything, including singing and yelling "whooo!".
the "take this gourd!! yeah!!!" LMAOOO
Legit I believe that she’s playing into the attraction, so legit enjoyment.
Nah she legit enjoys the theme park experience. Even when some of the rides suck and the entire concept of the park is stupid because Avatar is a dead franchise, they can still make a cool bioluminescent jungle with rusting robots.
I think she genuinely just likes being at theme parks.
To be fair, when you go to a theme park. It's hard not to have at least a little fun
The weird colonialist undertones feel very fitting. Like Disney would be the sort of corporation to think it is genuinely doing good while actually screwing over the native peoples.
No, they wouldn’ think they’re doing good. I’m sure the guys who run Disney are perfectly aware of how evil the corporation is.
They just don’t care as long as it makes money.
But yes, the colonialist undertones are very fitting for them 🤣
I think that's a pretty charitable view of them. Like...imagining Disney to basically be the British in the Andaman Islands rather than the British in mainland India is probably the nicest view anyone can have of them while operating in good faith. I look forward to, a few decades from now, seeing which one plays out in their actual colonialist acquisitions.
Don't they have a little resort type deal in Hawai'i? And aren't there also little resort type deals in the Caribbean tied to their cruise lines? Disney's Pandora experience is probably like, the very first time they've done this kind of a "celebrate with the native peoples while on their land with them nowhere in sight" shtick without facing a shit ton of protests from actively fucked over "native peoples."
elfarlaur Exactly. Listening to her describe it makes me feel a little nauseous
I wish thy would've done the narrative that you're part of the research team :(
Watching Jenny pick up a bag of strangely blue popcorn, look at it and go “ooh that’s expired”, jump cut to her eating it, and jump cut to her throwing it up is pure art. Avatar wishes it could master the cinematic tragedy of this,
This review is becoming a lot more relevant, now that there's a new Avatar.
Honestly, the existence of this theme park is starting to make a lot more sense after Avatar 2. These movies are gonna be back in the public consciousness for a while now
@@mikeb7906 I'm not so sure, I haven't noticed that anyone feels anything remotely loke passion for Avatar 2, it's just another mid movie that doesn't warrant a theme park.
In a way it will be a shame if the sequels are successful, because the underlying humor of this video depends so much on Avatar-land being a weird misguided cash-in on something no one loves.
@@c.w.8200 Considerin the movie rigth now Is the 7 biggest movie ever, so even if you don't like it avatar is back in the public and is big af, so this park is going to be popular
@@c.w.8200 Dude, the sequel almost made 2 billion as of writing right now.
All I remember about this movie is that the title was papyrus.
and the subtitles
ruclips.net/video/jVhlJNJopOQ/видео.html
He just... got away with it. This professional graphic designer..
jesus christ I forgot about that
and ponytail sex
Aw, you didn't even mention that you could "adopt" a Navi baby plush and rip it away from its family
eXCUSE ME WHAT
RyGuy3323
That’s horrifying.....and hilarious.
Wtf?! How did that get approved?
I don't remember seeing that in the shop. Unless you mean the $80 face print figure?
*flashbacks to the Native American indoctrination boarding schools*
as someone who has seen the second avatar film, i just wanna say to that poor cashier lady that what happened with the RDA did happem again. and somehow bigger and worse
good movie 10/10 it's a simple story but had strong visuals and great sound design
The only way for the park's lore to make sense would be to have it take place after the last movie, so for their sake I hope the lore they built for the park makes sense in 2028 😭
@@squirtyharry The new lore is the entirety of the park is set within that massive city the humans built on Pandora
Oh noooooo!! That would be so twisted and dystopian
@@TheKsalad that's so hilariously dark!
*did happen
anyone else love the hilariously dark implications of this park, it's so ridiculous
In all honesty, I'd love an "An Excruciatingly Deep Dive into The Wizarding World of Harry Potter" too.
I actually found this video because I was looking to see if Jenny had that video.
Yes!!!
I'd like a deep dive into Moulin Rouge, but it seems Jenny mostly does children's movies. Sure Satine is puking blood all over then dies and ruins everything, but the Star Wars style rich against poor/ good against evil plot is worth rambling on about.
My brother and I had a hotel guest only early access pass to both harry potter park locations (meaning we got in a few hours before general tickets allowed entrance). It was incredible to see every little detail they put into the world (down to brick detail, it was perfect). There were maybe 50 park goers there. We spent 2 hours looking at everything in awe and went on the busiest ride a few times before the lines hit. The park opened to the general tickets and the streets where flooded. After that, It was still semi-impressive but a lot of details were more hidden and everyone was in a hurry. Would highly recommend going it is a great experience for Harry Potter fans. Also try the Butter beer both hot and cold, they are awesome!
i need this is my life immediately
One of my friends worked on Flights of Passage and he said the reason they didn't have a walk-around Navi was that they thought that would be too much like exploitation of natives. This is, of course, also something they should have thought of before making a theme park and also doesn't jive with the whole, "create a sacred necklace for just $19.99" aspect, but just thought I'd bring it up.
I'm sure a walk around na'vi would be less sinister than having none at all??? The whole theme park seems a little thoughtless honestly.
@@megmoore8681 Yeah, it really feels weirder that there's none at all. Like, where did they go? Did they all leave? Were they forced out? What is the story here?
"We don't want to exploit this fictional race, so we're going to just steal all their traditions and artifacts and sell them for humans to consume without actual representation of said race actually being present."
The horrifying thing is this is EXACTLY how cultural appropriation works...
And also allow random pleb natives to experience their sacred rites of passage to adulthood. That's not exploiting their culture at all.
why not just have some navi go across the path and into the forest every now and then
smh
23:24 I was not prepared for the cameo of Hat Dan - The Dan With A Hat
ive seen this video like 4 or 5 times and just realized thats folding ideas. wild cameo i wasnt expecting
Yeah I did a *hard* double-take on that one.
I don't know why but I got a real whiplash from seeing Dan
In addition to the obvious weirdness of the vague references to American Indian cultures, it's also like...really really gross that they use pretty normal Asian food (boba and bao) to evoke "alien"
Yeaaaah I get the thought process for using boba, but the bao is an odd choice. Heck if you asked me to pick a real world food that feels alien I’d pick something like borscht
I know I’m a year late but yeah… oof. Yikes Disney 😬
Yeah, nothing gross about attributing cheeseburgers to aliens I guess.
@@LifesNeverHumDrumsoup is alien to you?
i personally feel like this is a bit of a reach and like it's a complete non-issue that you're trying to get yourself angry about. they're obviously not trying to claim that asian food is "alien" or "unnatural", it's pretty clear that those foods in particular were selected purely for aesthetics and not any kind of deeper reasons. it would be no different from using jello to evoke "alien slime" or using crushed up oreos and some chocolate pudding to make a "mud cake". i hate to have to say it, but it definitely seems like you're reading too much into it.
I heard that J. K. Rowling had that train design concept in mind for 20 years.
She says that about all her work.
Jonathan Davies that’s the joke.
the train was actually a disabled black trans woman the whole time
It was the third thing written on her napkin in the coffee shop on that fateful day
@@JennyNicholson it really was a large napkin
Jenny: Where are all the Na'avi?
Also Jenny: So guys, I brought home this "Avatar Flavoured" popcorn...
🤔🤔🤔
@Aspiring Marauder no i'm shaking and cryimg this can't be true APLHA CENTAURI WOULD NEVER DO THIS
@Aspiring Marauder I've never hated a RUclips comment as much as this one
I've never loved a youtube comment as much as this one.
at first I thought this was just a funny little quip about Jenny, but then realized what you meant and now I'm truly horrified
Soylent Blue is NA'VI!
Remember when she thought 59 minutes was an EXCRUCIATING deep dive? How cute, now excuse me, I'm moving over to the 3 hour deep dive into Evermore.
Four hour deep dive into the Star Wars hotel LMAO
Imagine if you had been able to buy into the benign colonisation vibe at take it at face value if you wanted, but also if you poked around you could discover a sinister hidden subplot where the navi were all massacred and buried in a mass grave, and if you find enough evidence around the park, you get to watch a tableau of the managers being arrested by interpol or whatever
My favorite favorite favorite kind of Jenny vid. Roasting something for almost an hour that I don’t really know anything about.
You get nearly 100% of the fun of going and mocking it yourself, with 0% of the expense and hassle.
Michael Stern The experience of watching a Jenny video is actually more fun than going to the actual theme park because of her commentary
YESS!
A whole hour went by? AY, CARAMBA!
I would never visit a themepark in bad weather.
Fun fact: Avatar is so damn forgettable that there are only about 160 fanfictions about it on AO3 and if that doesn't just say everything about Avatar I don't know what does
Yeah some people probably get it mixed up with Avatar the Last Airbender.
That's 160 fanfics too many
I bet 50% of that is just fanfics of other fandoms using Avatar as an AU
I thought the real rating was how much R34 there is?
Patrick Mulligan ao3 is short for “archive of our own” and is a popular fanfiction website
The Star Wars bit at 6:44 of this is... SO funny after the video about Galactic Starcruiser
the failure of animal kingdom AND evermore to deliver on the promise of a giant animatronic sea serpent is heartbreaking.
Me whenever I have an hour to kill: Jeez, time to watch An Excruciatingly Deep Dive Into the Avatar Theme Park again'
It's starting to become a way of life really
Glad to know I'm not the only one that rewatched this video several times just because
@@geegeep for months, I've had this video on when I'm trying to fall asleep, on my way to work or school, while I'm studying, and just now when I was doing dishes. Jenny Nicholson for every occasion.
This one is remarkably rewatchable!
Honestly though. I do the same thing with her Star Wars Land, Forces of Destiny and Trigger Warning videos.
hi I was the girl who gave you the rum blossom! I've been watching your channel for a very long time, and I've never met a RUclipsr or anyone I've recognized before so I EXTREMELY shocked in that moment. I was actually shaking. the reason I remade the drink was because I didn't leave enough room for the rum shot heh. Also the glow seed is 3 big ones but because I adore you I plopped one in your drink. I apologise deeply for how cringey and awkward the transaction was. I've been putting off watching this video because of how awkward I acted Yikes. Anyways bye.
seriously???
Sounds legit to me. I wish there was a way for you to have broken character or hint at you knowing her just a little, but I've worked in an amusement park before. It's hard to keep that focus and talk to people at the same time.
Mad Science Does Jenny seem like that kind of person?
Billy J. Sobolik Hahahaha what??? I wasn't trying to start drama, I just didn't realise the guy before my comment was joking. Honestly, seems like you're the one who's trying to start drama lmao
Don’t worry I would have been nervous too! And it’s so easy to make mistakes when you are anxious. You sound like a lovely person ^^
I’m so thankful even the merch stores are immersive. It would totally ruin my immersion if I got a Disney land plastic bag instead of a Pandora plastic bag. Yknow, the design the navi have been using for centuries
Orlando local, ex-Disney Cast.
This entire video felt like every hilarious conversation at Denny's after leaving the parks. Including the universal agreement that Flights is life, and picking out the blue nuts after Florida humidity kills the popcorn. 👏
"Where did they go?"
The Na'vi perished shortly after the humans assisted them in relocating to specially reserved enclosures. They seemed to have a toxic reaction to the new blankets they were given.
Luckily, we have preserved their DNA in the Avatar program.
Whew!
the explanation I would have is that the Pod that "purifies" the air for humans to breed drove out the Na'vi as the earth atmosphere would be as toxic to them as the pandoran atmosphere is to us.
@@CathrineMacNiel yours defs sounds like a more realistic explanation, but i think OP was alluding to how actual native americans were (and to a frightening extent, still are) treated by colonists.
i don't think the "preserving their DNA" part has been done yet, though
Headcanon. The Na'vi were recycled into the avatars for tourists.
why does this keep being recommended to me?? I know nothing of avatar... who is she??
Edit: I've ended up binge watching her videos. I'm in love.
You're at least half of us
Haha me too! She’s so good. Her Beauty and the Beast one I just watched and actually laughed out loud. She’s great!
Welcome to the club. Your life will be infinitely improved from here on out. That's the JennyEffect©!
in a way, jenny is like ikea, or a denny’s. have you ever heard of anyone applying to ikea? or actively looking to go to denny’s? no, you just end up there.
yeah, same, I was getting her recommended to me a lot and I was like "i'm not really into vlog channels... no thanks" but finally I stumbled into her roast of Fifty Shades Freed and now I'm a fan for life.
when we rode the river ride they had to stop it right when we were at the shaman and i swear we were listening to her chant for 10 minutes straight, it felt like an eternity
Oh my GOD.
I actually do remember "Dinosaur"!! I thought it was a deranged hallucination from my childhood, or something I cobbled together from several properties. Kinda struggling with the fact that it was actually real.
I re-watched it again recently, and it actually holds up pretty well. Like, the CGI is really dated, but it's an entertaining watch. Definitely on the darker side of Disney movies though.
The fact that Pandora, the park that's themed to be about conservation, gives out cheap single use plastic bags that are different from the rest of the Disney theme park bags, instead of slightly sturdier reusable bags, still lives rent free in my head
Like, all they had to do was do a paper bag with a printed design instead, and that would be 1000% better than what they actually chose to do, and that's without putting any additional effort in
When we went (October 2021), the entire place really tried to get us to upgrade to a (surprising large and nice) reusable bag for $1. I bought the pandora-style one that is really nice and the massive one at the beginning of the park. They could easily have charge $20 for that as it is a souvenir bag, but I didn't realize the bags in Pandora were regular plastic.
uh, why would you charge an idea rent anywhere
Also all the merch is seemingly just plastic shit that will end up in a landfill. Like, it doesn't even seem high quality enough to make a nice conversation piece or actual collectible at any point in time.
They need everyone you walk by to know that you've been there, and that they should go there too.
For the betterment of the earth!
...Oh wait, I mean Disney CEO Bob's wallet
Love the irony of dumping out billions of plastic bags as part of an experience dedicated to a quasi-ecological fairytale.
Yeah, I was expecting her to pull out a fancy Avatar-themed paper bag and instead got Pandora plastic. As you said: love the irony. ^^
Don't worry, all the bags say "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" on the top, so it's okay.
@@KaworuNagisa I was expecting like an unbranded woven mesh made to look like plant fibers or something, but I guess plastic was cheaper so
You know, this video made me really think about Avatar as a property. Mainly because if I go to the Wizarding World or the Star Wars area in Disney World, there are places, characters, and food you can recognize from the movies immediately. You can hang out with Chewbacca and Darth Vader, you can grab a Butter Beer and pick out a wand and hell even ride on the ships from the movies or go to Hogwarts and get sorted into a house... You can't really do that sort of thing with Avatar cause the world isn't as defined. It's more like, "Hey everything that's blue with this twine around it, it sorta reminds you of avatar right?"
Like even the food isn't anything you ever see in the movie (because we're never shown any food) I doubt the Na'vi there would eat bright blue popcorn and blue cheese cake or burger pods - so it's just... vague. The weird root/seed that 'allows you to breathe' in the land is amusing but you never ever see that thing in the movies. It'd solve alot of conflict in the movie's if that had that amazing air-filtering seed. XD
That’s not true. We are shown the food the Na’vi eating. In one scene we see them eating a bug which is cooked over a fire. ruclips.net/video/f3sDtyHZqaA/видео.html
Also we know the Na’vi hunt the wild animals doe their meat. But I guess serving bugs at the park would be weird.
5 years later, never seen a single avatar movie, but finished this hour long video😅
Your outfit reminds of of stitch though
Okay, but making it immersive is cool, but also makes it really weird.
Like, imagine we accepted tourism from an alien race... and they walked around with headbands that had human ears, and had their faces painted to have human skin colors with various "exotic markings" like freckles or acne scars.
Imagine that alien then proceeds to buy dolls that are literally labeled "human male" and "human female," and makes a doll of how THEY would look if they were human.
Imagine these aliens partaking in rights of passage from multiple cultures that hold no true meaning to them. Hell, imagine an alien having a Bar Mitzvah celebration. They just zap into their avatar, and there they are, in the middle of their D'var Torah with the stares of judgmental distant relatives and bored friends!
And one of the souvenirs they could buy was "traditional dented ball" which was just a damn golf ball.
That sounds hilarious and I wholeheartedly support it. Plus, for eighty bucks a pop, I'll make them as many human-sonas as they want.
We don't need to imagine it, white colonisers have already done that (and in some cases are still doing that) with virtually every 'exotic' culture they could get their hands on lmao
@@retroyoongi Disney's "Maui costume" that was just tattooed mesh skin.
I'm down to sell golf balls to aliens for $90
Golf balls are dimpled, not dented.
The Na'vis are TOO CLOSE to native north americans culture to be confortable for being used like that... Ooff
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As soon as you walk outside of this Pandora base, Na'vis with guns and knives capture you and scalp you. Authentic!
Yeah, it's got a super Westernised feeling of "exotic" shit going on. Generic tribal.
@@Spamhard The fact that they put boba in the food to make it "alien" and make cheeseburger baos... that's so extremely tone deaf.
I'm pretty sure this is an insult to native Americans. Implying they control horses by stick their dicks inside the horses ear....I don't even want to think about how the woman of the tribe control their horses, but now I can't shake that mental imagine out if my head....
Oh my god, if they’d done Pokemon instead, it would have come out the summer after Pokemon Go. They would have made money hand over fist.
I bet Jenny regrets suggesting they build an immersive Star Wars attraction
I learned from a Disney cast member that the shaman of songs animatronic gets taken into an underground area every night and has security cameras that watch it continue to do basic movements all night because the imagineers are so worried that if it ever stops moving they won't be able to get it moving again.
this sounds like a fnaf x disney fangame waiting to happen
thank you so much for this knowledge. this is genuinely the most hilarious insane thing i’ve ever heard of happening at disneyworld
Thats some Adeptus Mechanicus shit right there
Lol tha k you for telling us this. That is wild
This is the most relatable thing as someone who did robotics for a bit. It is not if it will break but when it will break.
What would be really funny is if they said, "Oh yeah! The avatar technology goes both ways!" and just have some people walking around claiming to be Na'vi in human avatars
Would have solved the lack of Na’vi problem and would have made it seem like the Na’vi are getting something out of the arrangement too.
That would've been a pretty creative solution, tbh! Imagine the employees getting to pretend to be Na'vi adjusting to "human Avatars" and getting to complain about how different their tastebuds, height differences, lack of tail, etc. are. You could come into work and get to amble around the park, cheerfully explaining Na'avi culture to guests and explaining that you don't look like a normal Na'vi because you're trying out the Avatar technology as part of a xenocultural exchange program with the humans.
And they could do something to make them look taller or just hire like, really tall people! They'd probably also have to have the Na'vi actors wear something Na'vi related that only staff can have to say "This is an "actual" Na'vi, ask them about Na'vi stuff."
@@chocomelo454 bigass lanyard that says "human in training" or something lmao, I'm picturing those "unaccompanied minor" signs that kids used to wear when traveling 🤣
honestly this is a brilliant solution that would solve so many problems with this park at once. It explains, where the hell the Navi went, it shows that they actually 1) ARE getting something out of this park 2) Are in fact cool with it and given control over how the park works and how it represents their culture 3) Greatly reduces the cultural appropriation undertones and just turns it into regular consensual tourism.
Honestly the drum performers should have been the "human avatar navi", it would have made the most sense. Plus things like Navi facepaint would not have been so icky as a concept if the Navi themselves were doing it on humans
i’m chinese-american and i think the “alien” foods at the satu’li canteen are so funny. bao is a comfort food to me and one of the least alien things. considering that more than half the world population is from asia, asian foods are the opposite of alien. it does irk me for my culture and adjacent cultures to be labeled as alien through food but i’m too tired to invest that much energy, so i just laugh.
goddamn tho they already have the shallow imagining/packaging of american indigenous cultures. the satu’li canteen threw me for a loop bc i wasn’t expecting asians to get dragged into this too, tho not as egregiously
Maybe I just live a in a good place for more diverse foods, but the idea of bao being alien is funny to me because it’s somewhat commonplace now. Heck chain grocery stores stock them in the delis
idk, it seems REALLY obvious to me that they chose those foods specifically purely for aesthetics and not any kind of deeper implications. it seems no different than crushing up some oreos and putting them on top of chocolate pudding to make a "dirt cake"; like, you're obviously not saying that those things taste like dirt or anything, it's just for aesthetic reasons. like they also had hamburger things on sale as well, and they obviously weren't implying that hamburgers are some kind of alien food from another world.
@@negligible_realityIn both of your examples you mention how they take a traditional food and modify it to make it weird. That was not the case here. The reason why people think the pods are funny is because they are essentially unchanged cultural foods. Sure, crushing up an oreo and saying it's mud cake is cool, but serving someone regular oreos and saying it's alien food would definitely seem a lot weirder.