The Wings of Icarus | One Piece Chapter 1114

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  • @felipecampos3045
    @felipecampos3045 28 дней назад +544

    The thing that amazes me the most is that oda despite starting working in one poece in his 20s, devoting 25+ years of life and all his waking hours to one piece he still somehow manages to find time to learn what seems an endless amount of history, mythology and all kinds of trivia from all over the world...the man seems to know more about our world than its possible for a single human to learn in a lifetime... Everytime i see someone saying "so i did some research and learned x and y" im reminded why oda is a genius

    • @royalfun1031
      @royalfun1031 28 дней назад +6

      Yeah

    • @ThyFloorestFloor
      @ThyFloorestFloor 28 дней назад +57

      Oda perfectly embodies one of One Piece's main themes. Wonder and curiosity about the world, he genuinely seems to enjoy learning, to challenge his beliefs, to have this innate desire to understand the world around him, to show respect to other cultures and history.
      The best part is, he keeps approaching all with a childlike wonder that makes him want to share all he knows.

    • @alexboi9454
      @alexboi9454 28 дней назад +17

      I'm sure oda also has some help with the myths and such but it's still crazy for oda to implement all of them in such a cohesive way

    • @honkworld9405
      @honkworld9405 28 дней назад +11

      There's a reason he sleeps so little. When he's not drawing he's researching.

    • @sonyyung5510
      @sonyyung5510 27 дней назад +13

      You're absolutely correct that Oda is a literary genius. They only other fiction Author I can think of off the top of my head who was more well verse is such topics was JRR Tolkien. Now I think Tolkien had his own area of expertise, I mean come on he invented entirely new languages from scratch. I do think that Oda's level of dedication and attention to detail in world building is definitely comparable to Tolkiens. Now Tolkien is still the father of fantasy, but in terms of the comic book/manga industry; Oda has definitely perfected the craft.

  • @hamiwiremu7154
    @hamiwiremu7154 28 дней назад +271

    What is Icarus's least favourite food? Hot wings

    • @hamiwiremu7154
      @hamiwiremu7154 28 дней назад +1

      //the sound of a knee being slapped

    • @tinyguy1015
      @tinyguy1015 27 дней назад +7

      😭😭😭

    • @aboubacarkourouma6587
      @aboubacarkourouma6587 27 дней назад +12

      That's so fire!

    • @NotInTheFace111
      @NotInTheFace111 27 дней назад +9

      He only enjoyed the first bite, but it all went downhill from there.

    • @ZackdasBohne
      @ZackdasBohne 23 дня назад

      Hot wings are overrated anyway. They suffered a real fall from grace.

  • @umbrella3051
    @umbrella3051 28 дней назад +60

    Mother flame revealed on Mother’s Day week. Goda

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад +15

      Actually the chapter officially released on mother's day itself that's wild

    • @mr.q337
      @mr.q337 27 дней назад +3

      Will there be Father Ice? =)))

  • @pontiusthepilot
    @pontiusthepilot 28 дней назад +98

    I think the title is also a flip on the original story because we have “gods” descending too close to the earth- we even have Saturn turning back into a “human” when he gets too close to the mother flame.

  • @Nilnot
    @Nilnot 28 дней назад +94

    after the impel down arc, Magellan was demoted to Vice Warden. I think he was basically sweeping the floor or something around Doffy’s cell and Doffy just likes to talk at him.

    • @therethan-family1234
      @therethan-family1234 28 дней назад +19

      Weren't there also assasins aiming for Doflamingo that Magellan had to repell?

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 28 дней назад +18

      @@therethan-family1234Assassins that Doffy implied were coming, never confirmed that they actually were

    • @albumkosong
      @albumkosong 27 дней назад

      ​@@collecter343ofc from wg

    • @Monkeytheluffy56
      @Monkeytheluffy56 27 дней назад +12

      Dude , a vice warden is 2nd incharge of the entire prison, do you really think a vice warden would go around sweeping the floor. And Magellan deliberately demoted himself to repent for his failure, he still is the greatest force in that prison.

    • @Icewolf-sx6vt
      @Icewolf-sx6vt 27 дней назад +3

      ​@@Monkeytheluffy56knowing who the warden is I would not be surprised

  • @dbslayer7
    @dbslayer7 28 дней назад +402

    I legitimately cannot believe you've never heard of Icarus or the metaphor.

    • @merphynapier42
      @merphynapier42  28 дней назад +208

      Oh I’ve heard of it, I just wasn’t well read on it so I couldn’t go very deep in my discussion on it other than the very surface level stuff so I had to read up on it before filming the video

    • @Melio160
      @Melio160 28 дней назад +14

      came here just to say that haha

    • @gaara_of_the_desert1118
      @gaara_of_the_desert1118 28 дней назад +58

      @@merphynapier42 That makes so much more sense lol.

    • @Civilchaos
      @Civilchaos 27 дней назад +3

      @@merphynapier42I could tell by the way you pronounce “ded-alous” 😂
      It seems to be most commonly pronounced “deed-alous”, at least these days.
      I can’t say for the pronunciation from that time, this is Ancient Greek after all and I never studied classics.
      Very fascinating though and as you are a book connoisseur first, I’d full-heartedly recommend Homer’s “Iliad” and “Odyssey”.

    • @daniell9834
      @daniell9834 27 дней назад +6

      funny thing, from the 90s to the end of the 2000s here in Mexico that tale was included in the elementary school public books

  • @kinguu7740
    @kinguu7740 28 дней назад +201

    how dare you merphy for not mentioning the most important character reaction from the most important arc in one piece.. the old man, Tonjit!

    • @danzoom
      @danzoom 27 дней назад +21

      His stilts will now actually be useful.

    • @j.b.5422
      @j.b.5422 27 дней назад +3

      wait, he was there?

  • @KrallesEmporium
    @KrallesEmporium 28 дней назад +59

    I teared up a little when I saw this chapter artwork.
    Vegapunk to me is a lot like the embodyment of the saying "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
    We already saw it in previous chapters, like his naivety in thinking that nobody would ever put out "fake news" if everybody had free acces to, basically, the internet as we know it.
    But having him basically saying "I regret this. I didn't think that my ideas could be weaponized. I love the people of the world, I want them to succeed, but they are getting killed left and right because of my ideas."
    It really struck a chord inside of me. He really is, was, the most intelligent man in the OP world... but unfortunately he wasn't the wisest of them all as well.
    Great video as always, this time I found the courage of writing you a comment! ^^

  • @timothymcqueen3408
    @timothymcqueen3408 26 дней назад +8

    I love how flying too close to the Sun in this case is actually representative of enlightenment instead of arrogance, being that the Mother Flame is most probably related to Joyboy/Nika.

  • @klyngdoh
    @klyngdoh 28 дней назад +42

    I love that these myths are reused lol. We first saw it used in Fishman Island with Ikaros, the squid Fishman.

    • @TuskyBaby
      @TuskyBaby 27 дней назад +4

      Thats just a pun. Ika is squid in Japanese

    • @klyngdoh
      @klyngdoh 27 дней назад +17

      @@TuskyBaby I'm aware of the pun. He still reused the myth with him talking about his friend Daidalos who dried up because he swam too close to the sun.

    • @Iqnacio.
      @Iqnacio. 23 дня назад +1

      @@klyngdoh lmao I had completely forgotten about that gag, such an underrated gem among One Piece gags

  • @tylerstromberg9342
    @tylerstromberg9342 28 дней назад +26

    It will be interesting to see the reactions of people who met luffy after they hear vegapunk say that joy boy had the ability to stretch. They will make the connection to luffy. Shoutout to rogersbase for bringing this up.

  • @naanull
    @naanull 28 дней назад +23

    The importance of that lone Celestial Dragon is the quesion itself. It seems not even the "rabble" of the celestial dragons know how things came to be. They know they have "more value" than others, they know they stand at the top, but they don't know why. It is important to establish how select are those who know, and even then they might not know what happened just a bit of facts, like VP admits.

    • @BEfantotheextreme
      @BEfantotheextreme 27 дней назад +2

      What I found most interesting of that, is I believe that particular Celestial Dragon is Charlos' Sister. (The Mermaid Freak, and the one who tried to buy Shirahosi against her will when she came to the surface.) So that is also drawing to the idea that not all in the same family are evil gremlins

    • @naanull
      @naanull 27 дней назад +3

      @@BEfantotheextreme yes. Well I do not think they are particularly evil. They simply believe themselves to be above. You do not feel bad for killing an ant or if you adopt or get a puppy from the streets. Of course they are cruel, ignorant and such, but evil, that is another matter altogether. Some of them are, yes, but we've met but a few. Also, I do not think that is what he wanted to highlight but the question itself. Even they are unaware.

    • @maiqtheliar789
      @maiqtheliar789 27 дней назад +2

      The rank and file Celestial dragons probably only know surface level stuff about the void century themselves. We already know there is a hierarchy in Celestial dragon society so my bet is the higher up you are the more you learn. So her father and grandfather might know more than her just from being higher ranking. While she is young looking so might not even know much. Imu is probably only known about by the highest ranking people like maybe the God's Knights and the Elders. The sanitized version of the void century might only be known by head of families and their heirs. Which explains why some of the World nobles sound like they know what is about to be said while the female one looks confused. She simply isn't high up enough to know yet.

  • @peterepeatepete2845
    @peterepeatepete2845 28 дней назад +57

    I’m hoping the mother flame is meant to parallel nuclear fission and the world government gets control of it.
    That would make it so the WG is powered by the act of violently tearing things apart (nuclear fission) while Luffy is powered like the sun (nuclear fusion) which is the act of joining things together.

    • @saeedabdo2083
      @saeedabdo2083 26 дней назад +3

      Well, actually the Power Plant that makes the Mother Flame is written with the Kanji 融合炉 which means Fusion Reactor.

    • @semirionu
      @semirionu 26 дней назад +5

      @@saeedabdo2083 there is also a sign that says "A&Mu", which is read as Atomu (Atom) in japanese

  • @Doommaster677
    @Doommaster677 28 дней назад +50

    I swear if we see the actual Joyboy in the next few chapters I'm going to do the Nika dance all over the place.

  • @thewok3667
    @thewok3667 26 дней назад +3

    "CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER?"
    Makes sense now💀

  • @Ladymary609
    @Ladymary609 28 дней назад +27

    I love all the research work you do for one piece, it truly shows how passionate you are about it 😂😊

  • @travisfrazier3407
    @travisfrazier3407 28 дней назад +16

    I started reading OP in Jan 2023. This is the first week that I've been able to watch your video as it was released. Good to finally be caught up!

    • @p7584
      @p7584 19 дней назад

      Lucky you. I've been waiting weekly for the chapters for almost 20 years. Let me tell you, you have been spared a loooot of anxiety hahaha. Hope you enjoy the ride with the rest of us!

    • @travisfrazier3407
      @travisfrazier3407 19 дней назад

      @@p7584 I did that with Naruto, so I get it

  • @deliii395
    @deliii395 28 дней назад +23

    I didn't know Dedalus was known as the creator of sails in myth. That's so cool.

  • @OhMyItsEli
    @OhMyItsEli 27 дней назад +14

    The biggest twist to come out of One Piece is hearing the most well read RUclipsr I'm subscribed to saying she had to look up the story of Icarus

  • @fredsflintstone3702
    @fredsflintstone3702 28 дней назад +83

    Merphy: Magellan is there to protect and watch Doffy. We already saw that in an earlier chapter.

    • @Ascetronaut
      @Ascetronaut 27 дней назад +25

      Also, he isn't in charge of Impel Down anymore. He was demoted from Chief Warden to Vice Warden after the mass breakout. Hannyabal is Chief Warden now, so it makes more sense on why Magellan is in charge of one specific person

    • @Axel-VIII
      @Axel-VIII 26 дней назад +5

      Yes this was shown on the cover stories From the Decks of the World in chapter 661 Hannyabal and Domino promotion to Chief Warden and her to Head Jailer (Shiryu's old position) and chapter 665 Magellan appointed to Vice Warden.

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 28 дней назад +41

    Luffy eating Mother Flame when hungry: yay or nay?

    • @honkworld9405
      @honkworld9405 28 дней назад +15

      Stamina issues fixed.

    • @kneau
      @kneau 27 дней назад +10

      Well now I wonder if Sanji can cook with it.

    • @HurricaneDDragon
      @HurricaneDDragon 27 дней назад +1

      Nay. I’m pretty sure even HE knows that fire isn’t edible.

    • @BaalFridge
      @BaalFridge 27 дней назад +1

      LUFFY WILL EAT THE SUN

    • @Iqnacio.
      @Iqnacio. 23 дня назад +1

      @@HurricaneDDragon I would've said the same thing until I remembered he grabbed a lightning like it was the most normal thing to do for him, pretty sure if he wasn't fightning he would've tried it just to know how it tasted

  • @lukefarrugiaroberts91
    @lukefarrugiaroberts91 28 дней назад +19

    Icarus felt like a god = York.

    • @ooooneeee
      @ooooneeee 26 дней назад +1

      Agreed, she flew too close to the sun.

  • @Problemsolver434
    @Problemsolver434 28 дней назад +43

    Wouldn't it be funny if the snail is in the container of the Mother Flame? Thus ensuring that the world government will never destroy it. And hence their own evil plans become the thing that exposes them

    • @kringhetto
      @kringhetto 28 дней назад +3

      😮

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 28 дней назад +8

      This is my new second favorite theory next to it being broadcast from the Ohara ruins

    • @vandiroppo2333
      @vandiroppo2333 28 дней назад +12

      ​@@-Teague-my favorite one was that the snail was inside the ancient robot and the reason of the creatpr of that theory is that when we first met vegapunk he was half stuck inside the giant robot.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 28 дней назад +7

      @@vandiroppo2333 yooooo he could've been hiding it! That would be awesome! Y'all are so creative

  • @lordhughmungus
    @lordhughmungus 27 дней назад +5

    I don't think the World Government was who labeled Joyboy a pirate unless it was after the fact, since he was born a hundred years before it even formed, and given how tightly they restrict information about the void century I doubt they'd have put that out there.

  • @shiargch
    @shiargch 28 дней назад +7

    It could be that we are getting references to the myth of prometheus, who stole the fire from the gods to give it to menkind, and was punished because of it to be chained to a rock and be eaten alive by the birds

  • @Nasser851000
    @Nasser851000 28 дней назад +39

    Merphy should have read more Percy Jackson to get the Icarus reference XD

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 28 дней назад +5

      Merph please get into Percy Jackson I would love that 😭

    • @autumndjinn9622
      @autumndjinn9622 28 дней назад +4

      She said that she enjoyed reading it but I'm not sure if she completed the last 2 booksm

  • @hmmmmm2555
    @hmmmmm2555 27 дней назад +2

    okay wtf! Tissine is so fucking amazing! i am constant amazed every chapter she illustrates something ridiculously good

  • @in-craig-ible6160
    @in-craig-ible6160 28 дней назад +6

    Thank you Tissine for another great art piece, and thank you Merphy for your great reviews.

  • @tash5186
    @tash5186 28 дней назад +8

    The lady CD questioning the void century seems to be Shalria (st charlos' sister)
    And the fire in the circle calls back to the wall paintings on the moon cus there was a similar power source there

    • @kneau
      @kneau 27 дней назад +3

      Oda made a point to mention how deliberately ugly the CD are -- I think Shalria has the looks of someone likely to abandon that life.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@kneauI always just assumed they were inbred 💀

    • @nitinpandey3616
      @nitinpandey3616 23 дня назад

      ​@@-Teague- u don't have to assume they are indeed inbred

  • @ViPxRampageXx
    @ViPxRampageXx 28 дней назад +7

    You mentioning Vegapunk not having much time to tell the Joyboy story gave me the most cursed idea. What if we do start to get something like that, and right at the point we're about to learn the ancient kingdom's name, they find and destroy the snail, cutting Vegapunk off at the exact same point as Clover.

  • @1996kylet
    @1996kylet 28 дней назад +51

    I feel as though this series defines pirates as people who are "free" in the sense that they are not under the governments thumb, or under anybody's control. Like to be declared a pirate you have to do very little the bar is so low, just don't pay the heavenly tribute and your a pirate. we have seen many examples of these "terrible" pirates like Shanks and Whitebeard but they are not evil in any way there just not following the orders of the world nobles.

  • @camronk1356
    @camronk1356 27 дней назад +1

    That coffee cup is really cute!

  • @underthempire5389
    @underthempire5389 28 дней назад +6

    I cannot help wondering if Bon Clay is actually the one sitting and having a conversation with Doflamingo in his cell posing as Magellan especially considering the question on how much water and the world will flood (noting the prisoners anxiety with the sea water rising), and after Doffy's answer we might see a jailbreak led by Bon Clay.

  • @Ytinasniiable
    @Ytinasniiable 27 дней назад +15

    I get more Oppenheimer vibes than Einstein vibes from this chapter
    Also, my big brain theory regarding the celestial dragons being confused about the void century is that for them, it's not void, they're taught the whole history; it really does seem like doffy knows quite a lot. But for most of them it's something that elevates them and not much else, so the commoners learning it would tick them off

    • @ooooneeee
      @ooooneeee 26 дней назад +2

      That makes sense, Oppenheimer created the bomb, Einstein just laid the groundwork.

  • @TSHHVA24
    @TSHHVA24 27 дней назад +6

    I've always felt that the Celestial Dragons exist more as a 'pressure valve' so that if there is ever a legitimate uprising, they will absorb the brunt of it along with the Marines, protecting the Gorosei and Imu. That's why they can do any horrible thing they want, but if they try to be even half decent, they are exiled or executed.
    Warcury reminds me of Juggernaut from the X-Men comics in that I think once he gets moving it's nearly impossible to stop his forward momentum. Also interesting that Doflamingo knew how many meters it would take to sink most of the cities in the world off the top of his head. And Kuzan's reaction will probably be more and more important as he is one of the few people who can at least slow down the sinking of the world.

    • @ooooneeee
      @ooooneeee 26 дней назад +1

      Yeah that makes a ton of sense. They are the distractions and the people to take the fall for Imu and the Elders.

  • @PranavDhote_
    @PranavDhote_ 27 дней назад +4

    Koby saying to garp in live action that "luffy always has been a pirate" is so good now! Wonder if Oda recommended this dialogue

    • @ooooneeee
      @ooooneeee 26 дней назад

      Damn, that's amazing.

  • @kamikaze.33
    @kamikaze.33 27 дней назад +4

    Not sure if you realize this but IRL Einstein and his theory of relativity, specifically the formula E=mc² is what lead to the creation of the atom bomb, much like Vegapunk and the creation of the mother flame.

  • @konstantinospetrakos2536
    @konstantinospetrakos2536 28 дней назад +6

    I’m here for the feelings and the weekly chapter inspirations of Merphys artist

  • @collecter343
    @collecter343 27 дней назад +2

    Fantastic Art Tissine, the multicolored flame had me thinking of Avatar where they realize that fire can bring more than destruction, it can bring life into this world.

  • @ladybookworms
    @ladybookworms 26 дней назад +1

    The thing that amazes me the most is that nobody figured out that the Celestial Dragon girl in that one panel was Charlos’ sister Shalria. The same who put a gun to Camie’s head in Sabaody Arc and would have killed Camie had she not been knocked out by Rayleigh’s Haki.

  • @samfisher6606
    @samfisher6606 27 дней назад +2

    I think with this chapter we've visited every single major location in the story during this message, plus a few extras. The only ones I think we’ve yet to see are Skypiea, Little Garden, and maybe Wano but they're all special cases. It's fascinating that Vegapunk makes mention of Icarus' wings because Vegapunk himself could've just as easily been inspired by Daedalus, the inventor of the labyrinth in Greek myth and Icarus' father. Also the creator of the wax wings that killed Icarus. It makes so much sense that Joy Boy would be the first pirate. Now I want to do research on who the "first pirate" in real life is. And I really hope in chapter 1115 we get people who know Luffy to make the connection that Joy Boy's ability sounds like Luffy's powers. Maybe even Luffy going "Hey that sounds like me". I really want the Mother Flame to either be a weird color like green or purple or be constantly shifting colors. But honestly, I think my favorite part of the chapter is Doflamingo making fun of Magellan for wanting to protect his precious prison. Is anyone else suspicious that they focused on Shalria, Charlos' sister? Is the implication with Shalria that the Gorosei are keeping the existence of the VC from the CDs or is the implication that they don't care? Could she turn into another "good" celestial dragon? And I was so happy to see Saul again!

  • @Baka-kun89
    @Baka-kun89 28 дней назад +6

    The Will of Daedalus lives on 🥹

  • @Excellor64
    @Excellor64 27 дней назад +4

    Honestly, after 1113, I started laughing and had to get in touch with my group of friends. Several months ago, we were in the middle of a TTRPG campaign and we started talking about One Piece to see if everyone had caught up. I don't remember the context, but we all started just joking about what the One Piece could be and I said "What if it is a flush valve?!" We all laugh at the obvious silliness of it. But after 1113, as much as I believe I am incorrect, I can't believe that technically my random joke is closer to a possible solution to the rising water levels lol I just had to share that story lol

  • @crispo3000
    @crispo3000 25 дней назад +1

    Worth remembering how far above sea level Dressrosa was. Doflamingo knew his shit.

  • @GoatLuffy_97
    @GoatLuffy_97 27 дней назад +1

    Vegapunk's admission that he flew too close to the Sun reminds me of the ending of Oppenheimer. A realization of the tremendous destruction wrought by those who intended to weaponize an invention capable of so much progress for humankind. It also made me think of the whole "stare into the abyss long enough and the abyss stares back" metaphor. Vegapunk delved too greedily and too deep and awoke shadow and flame, as was said in Fellowship of the Ring.

  • @OkIsAPerfectResponse
    @OkIsAPerfectResponse 22 дня назад +2

    We need to promote reading more, we need to do something. The children are getting lost in screens well their eyes are exposed to unbalanced viewings.

  • @maximwb237
    @maximwb237 28 дней назад +4

    Edison sacrifice gives me bon clay vibes 😭💖 (also I like that maybe he's going to shoot York in Egghead lab 😏🖤)

  • @azrayeleth3908
    @azrayeleth3908 28 дней назад +5

    15:23 re: the A&Mu bit - "and" in Japanese is said "to", hence "A to Mu" > atomu > atom
    I am terrible at theorizing but have another possible layer to that (maybe it's a stretch lol)
    A & Mu - mu made me immediately think of "nothingness" (by itself that's what it means) but also of infinity ("mugen" - literally "no limits") since Vegapunk mentions an eternal/endless source of energy.
    Also, changing it slightly, a&un or um >> "a-un" is how Japanese transliterates "om" from buddhism (alpha & omega as in beginning & end of all things) except with "mu" there, maybe it's "beginning & nothingness"

    • @Argorox
      @Argorox 27 дней назад

      My first thought was All & Mu (All and nothing) as a god reference. But there are a LOT of meanings of Mu that also fit and are probably intended.
      Mu is a Greek letter derived from the Egyptian heiroglyphic for water.
      Mu is a mythological continent that sank into the ocean.
      Alpha and Mu are two types of brainwaves that are very closely related.

  • @tobiaswedin
    @tobiaswedin 27 дней назад +4

    I think Oda forgot his own story when including the Doflamingo/Magellan part.
    1. Magellan isn't warden any more so there is no "under your your care", it's under Hannyabal's care, and 2. How could Magellan even have time to chill with Doffy when he works 1/4 of the day and sits on the toilet the rest???
    It would have made more sense to be a conversation between Magellan and Hannyabal, but I guess people need their dose of psychotic pink bird on panel sporadically.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад +1

      They've literally shown those two talking before, and Doffy is objectively the most important prisoner in Impel Down so it's perfectly reasonable for someone important to be checking on him

    • @misteryio3990
      @misteryio3990 27 дней назад +1

      Demoted in title but people in prison truly know who’s the one they should be wary of. That’s Magellan. Also, he’s a vice warden, technically he still needs to take care of Impel Down.

    • @tobiaswedin
      @tobiaswedin 27 дней назад +1

      @@-Teague- no he is *subjectively* the most important because you like him. We don't know who else is in there. Magellan has a job to do what little time he had out of the toilet, especially now that he isn't the boss any more.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад +2

      @@tobiaswedin uhh I don't particularly like him, but I genuinely can't imagine who they would have in there that's more important, especially after a lot of the prisoners escaped from there. He knows all kinds of celestial dragon secrets, is an absurdly powerful fighter, and has a massive political and criminal influence. Besides we saw like 3 seconds in this scene, for an event as major as Vegapunk's broadcast it makes perfect sense for Magellan to have taken a break and he might have wanted to hear Doffy's opinion on the situation. There's plenty of ways this makes sense I don't understand why so many "fans" of this series insist on thinking up the most convoluted reasons to call Oda an idiot but it's just ridiculous.

    • @tobiaswedin
      @tobiaswedin 27 дней назад +1

      @@-Teague- i think you overestimate how many CD secrets he knows, he was a kid when he moved out. But none of this is the actual issue, it has nothing to do with Doffy. It's Magellan's attitude, role and work that renders it odd beyond "Oda wants Doffy to be the one delivering those lines and needs someone to say them to".

  • @Nastyn1nja808
    @Nastyn1nja808 26 дней назад +1

    she totally channeled the colors used for Joyboys return from the anime.

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 23 дня назад +1

    Jiyboy probably called himself a pirate. The WG formed at the end of the void century, it fits that they would try to coopt the label and change its meaning into a word for criminals

  • @trumanspider4246
    @trumanspider4246 27 дней назад +3

    My favorite detail is that according to Daedalus (or in some instances rando fishers seeing the event) Icarus died smiling, he smiled the whole way down as he plummeted and crashed into the ocean, in some instances his wings dont just melt HE catches fire and keeps flying and Then the wings start melting

  • @aohige
    @aohige 27 дней назад +1

    The Celestial Dragon that's wondering what Void Century is isn't a random nobody, she's the sister of Saint Charlos.
    We saw her at Sabaody Isle and she's also the one that shot that one slave pirate in the head. She's as cruel as her brother and her father.

  • @insomnia113
    @insomnia113 27 дней назад +1

    I love the way Oda blends pieces from the real world into one piece. I think that's what draws people to One Piece. They almost get lost in One Piece theories. This is a playground for them.

  • @Orbitalbomb
    @Orbitalbomb 27 дней назад +1

    Appreciate you going for the origins of icarus. Whoever I am absolutely sure the "wings" and coming to close to the sun is the part being referenced here, not the labyrinth.

  • @smartmuscle7011
    @smartmuscle7011 27 дней назад +1

    The chapter title could imply that the Mother Flame is Vegapunk's "wings". Especially since his pursuit of the ultimate energy source lead to his research into the void century.

  • @justynhill4814
    @justynhill4814 28 дней назад +6

    My biggest concern is the fact that not even G5th the power to negate defenses still can’t hit that giant warthog. These guys are prepared to deal with Nika and Joyboy.

  • @h.o.p.e1415
    @h.o.p.e1415 28 дней назад +2

    The Iron Giant representing the Talos surrounding the island Crete, which is the missing civilization = Minoan Civilization, protecting the people. This is so cool

  • @violethope02
    @violethope02 27 дней назад +1

    5:21 the idea of defying the laws of man and nature also ties in really well with vegapunks 2 grave sins and the themes of this arc as a whole. from the very beginning with the mechanized sea beasts, we were told that no matter how hard you try, you can’t erase a creature’s nature. this was reinforced with the boa seraphim simping for luffy and with kuma showing up to the island to protect bonney, despite having his entire consciousness erased. all of vegapunks work is in defiance of the laws of nature, culminating in his attempt to create an infinite energy source, which is the first sin he refers to. as for defying the laws of man, he studied the poneglyphs and the void century. he considers this his second sin, and for his crimes, he is being punished by the “gods”
    i also like to think that because his sins aren’t really evil and only come from a place of wanting to see to the betterment of society and to pursue the truth of the world, he is being punished by false gods, while the true sun god is on his side and will eventually strike down these false gods for flying too close to the sun

  • @Fro00ot0
    @Fro00ot0 27 дней назад +1

    When I first finished the chapter, the first thought in my head was:
    "Ohhh so thats where the eyepatch is!"
    Dont screw me Oda, give me the eyepatch!

  • @tronyboy6016
    @tronyboy6016 28 дней назад +5

    You like avatar tlab, the mechanist and his son are meant to be like Daedalus and Icurus

  • @prakharaeron6093
    @prakharaeron6093 28 дней назад +7

    The 'author' of the labyrinth made me crease for some reason

  • @bloonstowerdefender
    @bloonstowerdefender 26 дней назад +1

    Magellan is assigned to protect Doffy from potential assassination attempts

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 28 дней назад +2

    10:58 I actually got the impression that the Elders insinuated that they themselves aren't living beings the way talked about eradicating all lifeforms; the "unless it's ours" might be a misassumption by Merphy.

    • @arttabletalk32
      @arttabletalk32 27 дней назад +1

      I tend to agree with this viewpoint. The elders strike me more as Tulpa- ideas given form. Devils free of the fruit.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад

      They seem to consider themselves above other life

  • @scarr009
    @scarr009 26 дней назад +1

    It wasn't super clear, but Saturn was using his club to destroy another snail. He turned human again so he wouldn't do any crazy damage to the facility as he destroyed this snail lifeform.

  • @Gusbusbus
    @Gusbusbus 28 дней назад +3

    Great chapter, great video

  • @dru2993
    @dru2993 28 дней назад +34

    For a man of science his fighting style is like primitive peoples lol.

  • @antalex_II
    @antalex_II 26 дней назад

    That one Celestial Dragon in that singular panel is Charlos’ sister/Roswald’s daughter. To add to what Merphy said before, it is interesting that Oda is choosing her to specifically to be that stand out amongst the Celestial Dragons.

  • @TheHermesLP
    @TheHermesLP 27 дней назад +1

    In a way, Vegapunk flew to close to the sun in getting to close to revealing the history of Joy Boy, the previous Sun God's Devil Fruit User.

  • @renni6861
    @renni6861 27 дней назад

    I loved the breakdown at the beginning. it gave me extra context behind possible inspiration for Oda

  • @PhantomFox77
    @PhantomFox77 27 дней назад +1

    *mentions Iccarus and Daedelus*
    Urge to quote Brennan's 'I Cannot Win' rant intensifies

  • @Ouzelum92
    @Ouzelum92 25 дней назад

    Daedalus being the inventor of sails HAS to be relevant. That's just too fucking poetic.

  • @Bardic_Knowledge
    @Bardic_Knowledge 27 дней назад +2

    I think it's refreshing for someone to be unfamiliar with Greek Mythology. Even so, a majority of people who do know the myth of Icarus don't know about the "don't fly too close to the ocean" part. Also, the Daedalus being responsible for the Minotaur thing is a bit roundabout: the king of Minos received a beautiful white bull from Poseidon and was told to sacrifice it in the god's name. Minos thought it too beautiful to sacrifice, so used a lesser cow. Poseidon, angered, asked Eros to make the queen of Minos fall in love with the bull, which he did. The bull, however, was uninterested because human, so the queen commissioned Daedauls to make her a cow suit. Nine months later, The Minotaur was born.
    "Flew too close to the sun" is a fairly common idiom in English to mean "was a too proud and failed because of it" specifically because of the Icarus Myth.

    • @Bardic_Knowledge
      @Bardic_Knowledge 27 дней назад +1

      I made this comment, then noticed the comment down below about knowing the saying and the vague outline of the myth. But I'll leave it up for the Minotaur explanation.

  • @TOPA808
    @TOPA808 7 дней назад

    22:02 *"How Far I'll Go" from Moana starts playing*

  • @acedaboss3785
    @acedaboss3785 26 дней назад

    Joyboy could actually be the first one to set sail if the ancient kingdom was a dystopian society that made it taboo to explore or leave the kingdom. Just like the government now outlaws learning about the past, the ancient kingdom could have made it so that nobody could go out and explore; or nobody needed to because the kingdom was so advanced and had everything you could need or want

  • @victorjones7859
    @victorjones7859 27 дней назад

    icarus is a great tale about getting carried away by your own ambition or hubris. it applies to so many characters in one piece that appear in this chapter: vegapunk, york, the elders, imu, doflamingo and the celestial dragons. i love greek mythology and of all the references to icarus throughout media, this use of it by Oda was the best.

  • @Rickyrick423
    @Rickyrick423 28 дней назад +4

    I believe Saturn was destroy the console in hopes of interrupting the broadcast, since they don't know where the signal is coming from. Destroy everything EXCEPT the mother flame is my head canon.

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 27 дней назад +2

      Yeah that was my assumption, either that or there was a snail on the desk that he was killing

    • @scarr009
      @scarr009 26 дней назад +2

      It's 100% Saturn crushing another snail. Saturn says "Not that one either!!" exactly as he's getting instructions to kill all lifeforms from the rest of the Elders.

  • @Afroskelett
    @Afroskelett 27 дней назад +1

    I don't think he attacked the Mother Flame's control panel but a Den Den Mushi that was in that room?

  • @layniebear1237
    @layniebear1237 21 день назад

    Merphy!~ i just came over from your and liams horrific book reading video and you mentioned Peter Pan being your favorite i must now ask are you familiar with Brom? Gerald Brom, The Child Thief is his telling of a very fantasy horror styled Peter Pan >.> or any of his works honestly (i told liam he has picture books which can probably help him more) .> im probably going to spend several hours gaming and watching some of your videos... starting with this one >.> PS you rock!~

  • @georgev3433
    @georgev3433 27 дней назад

    I think what we’ll get the next few chapters is Vega Punk telling the pieces of Joy Boy’s story over the Straw Hats escape off the island.

  • @ayushnayak6138
    @ayushnayak6138 27 дней назад

    i am with you. didn't know the icaris lore in such detail.

  • @MitchSmokes
    @MitchSmokes 26 дней назад

    I wanted to note that the people who were laughing were from mock town where Bellamy was introduced. They don't believe anything at all

  • @MrStarshin3
    @MrStarshin3 23 дня назад

    Something important to note, Magellan should have some extra time on his hands since he is no longer the warden of Impel Down.

  • @dialiruach
    @dialiruach 24 дня назад

    "nothing burger" whaaat? lmao, that revelation could literally be telling us the shape of the world in the past

  • @ethansou
    @ethansou 27 дней назад

    I took a Latin class my freshman year of high school and learned about many old Greek myths. It was nice to see the comparisons this chapter.

  • @megat4762
    @megat4762 27 дней назад

    Shoutout to Merphy's thumbnail artist these things are always awesome

  • @RottenBen
    @RottenBen 21 день назад

    Not sure about the geography of Dressrosa prior to Doffy becoming King, but it would have been very easy for the edge of that island being molded to look like that through the use of Pica's devil fruit during Doflamingo's reign. And it could easily be written off as "to better protect against attacking pirates."

  • @maskiljohn2210
    @maskiljohn2210 28 дней назад +2

    I think mother flame is white colour

  • @nicholasanderson7316
    @nicholasanderson7316 27 дней назад

    Hey Merphy, love your reviews. I noticed, probably am not the first though, that the five elders are each representing a level of impel down (dante’s inferno)! Saturn- Level 1: the spiky grass and poisonous spiders, Mars- Level 2: the wild beast hell (mars looks similar to the basilisk Buggy and Luffy fought, Ju Peeter-Level 3: Sand and desert (he’s a sandworm), Walcury- Level 4: he is boar but it looks like at the end of this chapter he can produce flames/ an inferno like the fires of level 4, and V. Nusjuro- Level 5: he can freeze the pacifistas with his sword similar to the freezing hell. Maybe Level 6 and Imu’s powers have some kind of connection as well? It might be a stretch, but I thought it was interesting at least.

  • @NinjaPopeXue
    @NinjaPopeXue 27 дней назад

    I feel like the shipbuilder Tom and Vegapunk could have an interesting discussion on the responsibilities and relationship between inventor and invention.

  • @connorohidy8491
    @connorohidy8491 26 дней назад

    "I am become death..." -vegapunk probably

  • @Anshelm77
    @Anshelm77 27 дней назад +1

    22:27 The World Government didn't exist at the time though.

  • @idiatico
    @idiatico 28 дней назад

    I think either one of two things made Joy Boy the first pirate either the whole world was like the grandline and he was the first to use a prototype log pose to explore the seas or he was just the first to break the rules of not exploring the grandline because it was too dangerous and he did it anyway with one of the first log poses.

  • @saynotzai
    @saynotzai 27 дней назад

    I could be wrong because dressrosa was so long ago but , do we see the outside of the island in the Riku flashbacks? Because if not that and Doflamingos 'info on the government they don't want out' could be the reason Dressrosa is so high up, he would just have to ask Pika to move the island.

  • @braydenswinhart
    @braydenswinhart 28 дней назад

    Hey Murphy, i know you’ve done a series on famous pirates and their one piece counterparts, would you do a video on the speculation of what Joyboy’s counterpart is? I know we know little about him but maybe we can narrow it down with the fact it’s gonna be one of the first pirates.

  • @westbro8591
    @westbro8591 26 дней назад +1

    She should 100% read Berserk

  • @mattflanagan9850
    @mattflanagan9850 27 дней назад

    i think its key that the telepathy of the gorosei says we must eradicate all lifeforms, and saturn responds not yet as he destroys the control panels just to clarify.
    i also think hes in human form because the flame is harmful to him but thats just a theory.

  • @purplemc65
    @purplemc65 27 дней назад

    The celestial that questioning the void century is Charlos’ sister! I’d be shocked if oda finds a way to make us like her!

  • @natezodiak
    @natezodiak 20 дней назад

    I think that Big Mom is going to be a big part of the future of the mother flame

  • @WillOfDavy
    @WillOfDavy 27 дней назад

    I've had a couple of discussions with people about the part with A&MU
    Atomu.. but I'm going to put the spin on it that this still ties back to it being another way to include the second meaning Adam. This drop coming alongside Vegapunk telling the world of his first two "grave sins" against their world's God.. his head is an apple which while yes, it is a connection to Einstein.. taking a bite or two out of an apple..
    And possibly that the Adam Tree that has the strongest wood is where the Devil Fruits originate from. Anyway, love the chapter, and always fun to see your takes -!