While his heart keep beating with the drum of liberation to signal he needs food lol. So the robot and elephant apologized because they can't give joyboy food in time ... lol
I think the Roger pirates laughed partly because they did everything they could to get to this last island and despite all that they couldn't do anything when they got there. But also probably because what they discovered there : the truth of the world, the void century, the way to "finish" what the ancient kingdom started and their goal was so absurd yet plausible they couldn't help but laugh
25:15 theres a bit of dialogue from luffys flashback after marineford where bluejam says, “humans beings are strange creatures, when we’re thrown into the deepest pits of misfortune we start to laugh” so it’s possible they laughed realising that they served no purpose in saving a doomed world and that after all their work to reach the end they dont really play a role in fixing it. They made it there too early, they werent the main characters of this world.
Thats why we're gonna cry our eyes out when Luffy dies laughing but we know he has hurt inside all this time. Something like that. I would cry for weeks if Oda pulls something like that and i think he will.
@@november4196 that was Dragon for sure, but with Dragon being luffy's father and the whole "inherited will" cameos throughout the story, the parallel sustains itself
In costa maya, there was a kingdom that was lost for 800 years and i would not have thought to much about it until i found out a major export of the area was their abundant supply of rubber trees.
in my culture(india) we have similar noah arc story" The Hindu flood narrative centers around the figure of Manu, found in texts like the Matsya Purana and the Satapatha Brahmana. Manu is warned by the deity Matsya (Vishnu's fish avatar) about the impending deluge and is instructed to build an ark to save himself, sages, and seeds of life". notice here manu is warned by deity matsya which is in avatar of fish - odas notes are always with a fish head in water and luffys final attack to kaido is "bajrang gun'' here bajrang means hanuman(monkey god of hindus).
The ark in OP having chains which are meant to be used by giant sea kings to tug the ship is a huge similarity to Matsya avatar tugging the huge ship in the purana
When you said you'll talk about a Chinese flood myth, the only thing comes into my mind is "大禹治水". I'm so confused because I have never thought this story could connect to one piece. After watching this video, some parallels you mentioned actually make a lot of sense to me. Great job!
The version of the tale in which Yu turns into a bear and his wife turns to stone is parallel to what happened to Kuma (bear in Japanese) and Jinny/Bonney (Sapphire scale disease) I think you’re onto something!
Joyboy being the one to make the red line would be a hella good twist and there was an idea (not quite a theory) that imu might not be evil but was misguided by the gorosei I think it could also make sense that this myth is only for wano. Like you said, maybe different island will reflect different myth from the real world and wano already had a wall for presumably 900 years
I love this theory so much. I do believe that by the end, Oda is gonna take inspiration from a lot of mythologies and history and this is most probably one of them.
Just a bit of mythological connection, but one of the most powerful weapons in Chinese mythology was the staff or rod of Yu. This rod was later said to be found and used by the Monkey King in his journeys.
As far as Roger and his Crew laughing at the One Piece, I can only assume from Rogers words that "Joyboy" told the story in an absolutely ridiculous way. Imagine Luffy trying to explain the whole situation and you'd probably laugh too, "This dumb ruler guy is flooding the world and the only way to fix it is to break this big ole mountain but when I punched it, it didnt break!" and honestly that doesnt even remotely give justice to how goofy Luffy would sum things up.
This is so interesting Merphy, you did an amazing job in researching all of this, makes me want to go through all these flood myths and legends myself.
I think that's because flood is common so people don't paint it as some special events while for other countries something that happens very rarely that thing has a special cause.
@@Nexmindscape you’re pulling that out of thin air. There’s tons of stuff people experience on the regular that they create mythologies around. Even from what little I know, Japan has that myth about catfish predicting/causing earthquakes with their whiskers. A better explanation would be that Japan isn’t prone to “end of the world” mythos in general, which I’d agree with ‘cause nothing comes to mind. Compared to things like Revelations from the bible.
@@jcnot9712 First, I never said japan is prone to "end of the world" mythologies. Second, I never said people don't create mythologies on regular things. Third, What i said was that due to floods being common in japan they didn't saw as a world ending disaster that they can't defend themselves again, that's why they built elevated houses. Now I am not saying there isn't any myth around flood , there are some deities in japan that people worshipped to protect themselves from flood. But floods never were considered a world ending disaster like potrayed in bible.
The Noah was such a huge in your face hint and everybody went, yeah the world is covered in water so the Noah was made when this wasn't the case yet. However the Noah might have been made because people knew the flooding would happen again or become worse
How hilarious would it be if Imu and Lily were siblings or childhood friends and Lily decided to help JoyBoy and Imu is still upset about it. It would be a "We could have ruled the world together side by side" kind of situation
There’s also the Norse flood myth that connects to it’s creation myth. When the first giant, Ymir, is killed by Odin, his blood is a brine that floods the universal void and kills all the giants except for Berlgemir and his family. Odin and his brothers then grow the World Tree, Yggdrasil, and other cosmological features out of Ymir’s corpse. I’ll be looking for such references in Elbaf for sure. The general process of a god becoming the universe is called Pandeism, and I think there’s another flood myth that connects to the Chinese primordial god as well, Pangu.
I enjoyed hearing the legend, and love whenever you bring in outside sources like this! I cannot help thinking Imu and his ilk stole the sand from the gods or at least supplanted the people who originally did, and then turned that ancient weapon said to create the flood upon the world (Imu being the one capable of hitting the button since only an immortal can do it without dying like Doflamingo wanted done on him by Law). As for the ancient weapons, I think Luffy is going to reject the need to use them like he dismissed Pluton which is going to set him apart. I doubt the flood is the only thing Roger read in Laughtale, for the number one reason that it would spoil the surprise about what has been waiting there all this time, and Luffy would no longer be down for the adventure.
I think the main reason Roger was too early was because Posiden wasn't reborn yet. I think Roger laughed because Joyboy probably told stories about the crazy inventions in his time and if Joyboy is like Luffy he probably did the most ridiculous things with these inventions. An example would be there was a void century version of the Automatic Cooking Machine and Joyboy made some ridiculous meal with it; stories with his opinion on flying cars etc If I had to assume there are probably multiple ponelgths on Laughtale and Roger probably read the ponelgth with Joyboy's goofy stories first
I think Joyboy made a mistake in focusing too much in his objective and postponing his friends needs. Because of that they couldn't help him when he needed and he was unable to achieve what he wanted. Now he is doing things in a different way, helping his friends along the way. Also, the One Piece world has 5 moons maybe, when the 5 align at one side of the world, all the waters will come to that side, flooding one side and uncovering the other side. Maybe even uncovering an ancient realm under water. The Red Line might be able to hold the waters.
learning about chinese mythology from Merphy through the lens of One Piece is not something that i think i will get to experience and certainly will not think of in a million years😂😂
A coworker of mine told me a theory that gol d. Roger created the pirate era to save the people that the government or celestial dragons would leave behind.
honestly i really like your take on it. you understand oda and how he gets his own inspiration for one piece. keep up the good work with these types of videos.
Really fun theory and really possible that Oda was inspired by this myth :)) It's really cool to witness the start of your journey with One Piece, experiencing the joy of catching up and theorizing along with the rest of us while we wait like goons for the next chapter . :3
There’s another flood myth where two gods was fighting and broke a pillar of heaven which caused the heavenly river (reference to Milky Way) to flood the lower world. Another god Nuwa who created humans from mud went on a quest to find a special stone, melted it down, and patched the heaven.
3:15 That also correlates with the Chinese Four Symbols: The White Tiger of the West (Metal), the Black Tortoise of the North (Water), the Azure Dragon of the East (Wood), and the Vermillion Bird of the South (Fire), all four represented by the Four Mountains (and 4 of their 5 elements), and in the middle of all four, the Emperor, representing the Yellow Dragon (Earth), the Fifth of the Four Symbols (and of the five elements). And as some extra trivia, Yu the Great's creation of the Dragon Gate falls by parting the mountains for the Yellow River (again named after the Yellow Dragon) to flow, that's deeply connected to this myth, is where the myth that inspired Kaido comes from. EDIT: 14:20 Needless to say, Yu parting the mountain for the water to fall can also be a reference to Luffy destroying the Red Line.
One thing i really love about these types of theories is that when religion/myth starts being discussed and what stories oda may be taking inspiration from, you see that alot of cultures share similar stories. Its one of the reasons myths are so interesting, bc stories were passed from region to region with each place adopting its own rendition.
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I can never guess why people wanna guess what’s gonna happen. I’m not watching any end theories because I’m going to sit back and enjoy. So many times I see youtubes guess what’s gonna happen and be let down, or be right and be not as hype cuz they knew. Love your chapter reviews though!
I was waiting for this! Since you mentioned this Chinese folklore in that last video, I searched for it. But then I fell into the rabbit hole of Theory theory no mi via the change of dynasties (with the Zi clan from Shang dynasty, cautionary stories on what happens to corrupt kingdoms, Shun and Gun and the great flood, and the 5 grains etc etc Goda's unbelievable
Hey Merphy, I watch every single One Piece video you make!! If you are ever feeling unmotivated or anything like that, please know that there are random people all over the world, who don’t necessarily comment but eagerly await your next One Piece masterclass! I am one of these people, so from a stranger, THANKYOU and please continue to create amazing content! :)
Roger laughed because the answer to the flood and the world was hilarious and crazy and he didn't know or have a way to achieve it. So all he could do was sit back and laugh.🤣 I have had a crazy theory brewing in the back of my head ever since G5 was revealed that maybe the answer is to do something so insane everyone else looks and laughs, but for someone that can dream and do anything in this world that they can think of, it makes sense. Imagine if Luffy were to rubberize every nation in this world and tie them together like one big raft so that they could weather the storm. I'm not saying that's going to happen but that's insane enough to laugh at from a distance and impossible for anyone else to achieve. But for Luffy, it might be possible.
I'm personally subscribing to KoL's recent crazy theory. But this Chinese legend has lots of similarities to One Piece so I'm glad you made this video. Infinite gear five through mother flame? Or maybe even a gear 6? Awesome theories.
Lil theory i cooked up, ik in one video you attributed water rising to the destruction of islands, but that might just be one aspect of it, i think most of the water flooding the world is from reverse mountain spewing loads of water out of an unknown source (maybe water at the core of the world in one piece?)
merphy i‘m so happy to see theories videos of yours.❤ keep them coming, so proud how much of a one piece fan you‘ve become i didn‘t expect when you were first reading east blue.
What I love about One Piece is that it made a LOT of people all around the internet really study deeply into old histories and legends from long long times ago. Oda's just sharing his love for history with us one chapter at a time.
I always thought that in the Roger laughed scene. They weren't laughing joyfully but hysterically like they reached their goal at the end and found out they were too early whatever that means
Roger laughing could just sort of be a laugh of futility, like when you’re in such a bad situation all you can do is laugh, but that could easily be wrong considering the significance of laughter in one piece
i know you always say like “oh i’m still so new to the community i don’t think i can really theorize like a lot of the big dogs out there” but i think you don’t give yourself enough credit, stuff like this is great and awesome!
That could be the reason the Lunarians lived on top of the Red Line, if their moon was used as building material for a new continent. It's a little far fetched but has enough logic that i could get behind it. It would definitely blow some minds, especially if Enel comes back to give some elaboration on Moon history
Wow great video Merphy! This story really got me thinking about the legacy a father leaves behind for his son! What if we got it all wrong! What if Imu is not some other worldly supernatural villain… What if Imu is Joyboy’s son?! Imu is resentful of his father maybe because his father’s planned ultimately failed or maybe because he just didn’t agree with his father’s ideals. In other words, Imu did not inherit his father’s (Joyboy) will! Joyboy was crowned King for his temporary success, but ultimately fails. He then dies or gets murdered, and that is how Imu is crowned king. A Son that hates his father is an ongoing idea throughout One Piece. Which reminds me that there are several characters that did not inherit their father’s will. 1. Ace being resentful of living under Roger’s legacy. 2. Doflamingo resents his father for his ideals and he believes himself to be superior. 3. Sanji hates his father and his ideals. 4. That one octopus pirate that stabs White beard because he believes White Beard doesn’t care about him. 5. Luffy becoming a pirate and not a marine. It’s never the son who inherits the will of the father! If this theory is correct I want to be to be the first to state: JOYBOY HAD A SON AND HIS NAME WAS IMU!!!
My guess is that Joyboy was the Gun of this story. He was selected, not by Imu but whoever the ruling king of the ancient kingdom was. Roger may have been a false Yu, thinking he was the answer to a problem potentially caused by Imu. Similar to how kaido thought he was Joyboy's successor before Luffy came along. Roger's laughter may have been the realization that he was SO under qualified to carry out the will that all he could do was laugh at his own folly.
I think oder split the mythos and devided it onto different charakters, so part of the story will fit Luffy, part of it fits Kuma and so on. One Piece is a story about nakama, about following dreams and reaching destiny together, after all.
It checks out that China would have its own flood myths. The Yellow River is rather notorious for flooding. In fact, the modern city of Kaifeng sits atop eight previous iterations of itself that were destroyed in floods, one of which was manmade, caused by army leaders exploding a dam during a war.
Once the Red Line gets destroyed, the seas merge to create the All Blue to make Sanji's dream come true! Oda's inspirations all converging, years ahead with all the different cultures and histories making the world feel alive. Thanks for the video!
About roger laughing, thinking about the prophecy I couldn't help but think about the ending of a 100 years of solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, trying not to spoil it since its my favorite books, but the final scene with the mysterious manuscripts on that story would fit the reason roger is laughing so well. Also merphy mob psycho 100 i cannot recommend this enough :)
As always a great video, Merphy. The only thing i would disagree on is Imus involvement. The gorosei when we first saw them outside the room of authority when they went to the throne room nusjuro said that it seems there is a need for a great cleansing. World sinking = great cleansing. I think I'm will initiate the sinking of the world
My guess as to why Roger laughed is that maybe Joyboy had some crazy, almost childish idea to stop the flood and wrote his plan down. Maybe it's so comically absurd, it has something to do with, idk, moving the moon farther away, idk (because moon and flood... idk). That would at least tie into why there is an actualy civilization there and goes back to Enel being canonically on there.
22:15 Well, there's a big chance that the Im has Uranus (and used the mother flame, a failed energy production experiment by Vegapunk and his incredibly high standards to consider something a success). So if all three weapons are needed to successfully destroy the Red Line (makes sense, one attacks at sea level, one from above, one from below), and same as with the Iron Giant, Luffy is the original power source for Uranus, he kinda needs to defeat the WG first, so yeah, that tracks. On a side note, I want Uranus to literally be the classic flying saucer UFO, so Luffy's Gomu Gomu no UFO from Punk Hazard was a wink at this
1:30 If there's a Chinese myth about it, the same applies to Japan. Japan is to China what Rome is to Greece in regards to culture. Every Greek myth and Legend got translated to Latin, and adopted by Rome (with different names). Japan did the same with China (that had already partially done it with India), but it also added their Shinto on top, same way Rome would adopt the gods of every tribe their conquered into their own pantheon, if they could not immediately translate them to one of their existing gods. And as an example of the last bit, in Rome, Norse Odin became Mercury, and Thor became Jupiter, because their myths more or less aligned in a couple of elements. So very much so that the days of the week, that in English are named after Norse gods, still correlate with the equivalent Roman god represented by the same day in Romance languages. Will use Spanish for the examples here: Monday = Moon's Day = Lunes = Luna (Moon), no god in this one, but starting tomorrow: Tuesday = Ty's Day = Martes = Marte (Mars). Wednesday = Odin's Day (Woden's Day) = Miércoles = Mercurio (Mercury). Thursday = Thor's Day = Jueves = Júpiter (Jupiter). Friday = Freyja's Day = Viernes = Venus. And weekends are the exception, as while you translated Njrod's Day as Saturn's Day in Saturday, we swapped it for the Sabbath in Sábado. As for the Sun's Day in Sunday, that also doesn't follow the Norse naming scheme, we swapped it for The Lord's Day in Domingo (Domini). EDIT: BTW, since I mentioned the days of the week, all 5 references do tie to One Piece as well: The only 5 planets knows to the Solar System, aka the Five Elder Planets, the Sun, Luffy, and the Moon, Enel's retirement home (just kidding here, the Moon is referenced in One Piece so many times, that listing all of them would be impossible, I would miss several of them, but just two recent ones: The full moon allowing the Minks to go into their Sulong form, and all of the family names of Wano's Daimyo (except for Kurozumi) having the Kanji for "Moon" (tsuki or getsu) at the end).
I have two theories as to why Roger would be laughing at whatever is at Laughtale: 1.) Sometimes, all you can do is laugh. 2.) Maybe whatever's there is something that will fix everything, and the laughter comes from knowing things will be fine.
This is a really cool theory! Simce Oda DOES pull from real life mythologies/legions/religions/ect its very logical to think the Chinese Flood myth inspired this story. Also, im not gonna judge your ramblings. Ive been into the Annunaki theory recently and there are soooo many parallels that it made me think Oda is trying to share forgotton REAL history hidden in his cute comic. But thats such an out there theory im sure people would laugh at me. 😅
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look into the Wampis people and the flying rivers they’re trying to protect. I think it’s VERY connected especially since “Wampis” sounds literally like “One Piece”
My theory is that what Emu causes the big ocean sinkholes by taking water out of the sky and thats depleting the sky rivers and thats why no one uses them anymore. Every time Emu uses it to transfer water from the sky to the sea it rises the tide because its quicker than the natural cycle. Im betting that before the void century that sky rivers were utilized all the time and when people knew to look and were able to notice that they were depleting that they got mad as heck because they new the environmental impact it would have and the NWG had to shut that down QUICK hence the void century maybe
Maybe they laughed because Joyboy tried some bonkers ways to stop the flood. My guess would be that he build the red line and tried to put all the water on one side. Reverse Mountain provides the dry side with water without flooding it. Fish-Man Island could be the drainage pipe to the wet side or the place the water flooded back. Even more crazy would be if Fish-Men Island is the plug for the hole. The weight of all the water on one side could have also flipped the planet.
Amazing video.....I do have a random intrusive thought. Does she own a rapier 🤨? I've been doing a fanfic about One Piece RUclipsrs being in the OP world. Merphy would definitely be a swordsman with a black rapier 😂. Also if they were in the OP world with their knowledge and theories her, Tekking, KOL. JoyBoyTheories and especially Artur would be on the WG hit list 😂
Just going to drop here something that could tie with the flood but is more related to the tie ins, some people have been saying the Will of the Drowned
Perhaps the good v evil aspect is muddied because Imu wants to save the world by creating more land, and enabling the people to forget the atrocities of the past, whereas Joyboy wanted to keep the one big ocean together (hes a pirate after all) because to him its the epitome of freedom.
So I personally think Roger and his crew laughed because the story you find at Laughtale is different from the one at Loadstar. In zoa inu said they didn't need to go to loadstar because the crew was already on track to go to Laughtale. So my theory is that Loadstar is where you find out the secrets of the void century and the world flooding ect. That's why roger was speed running the grandline at the end but when everyone got to Laughtale they found joyboy's story and the truth of why things went the way they did. That's the only way right now I can make sense of why they went from being so urgent as to find a doctor to cure roger and beg their strongest rival for their crew member that could poniglyphs to having a good laugh and essentially a leisurely retirement while they waited things out
So… I have a theory that when we finally see laugh tail and the one piece it’ll be something like a giant poniglipgh showing the entire story of One Piece in well … one piece. It would explain why they laugh and how they know it’s not time yet. Would also explain why Roger gave himself up, so he could start or keep the story going, and the reason he was so relaxed would be he already knew what he had to do and accepted his fate because it had to happen for that future to come true. Also Rayleigh doesn’t tell them what’s going to happen because he knows that they may see it as they aren’t free and are destined to do everything, whereas when you discover that on your own it might just be like a big surprise or joke at the end. What kind of adventure would it be if you knew what you were going to do the entire time. Knowing beforehand would change that to something more like a job than an adventure, and Luffy is about doing what he wants to do and having fun.
Hey Murphy! You're probably never going to see this but I really hope you'll read a manga called Mairimashita! Iruma-kun (Welcome to the Demon School! Iruman-kun). For some reason it doesn't get nearly as much attention as it should, and it is the definition of fun! I think it could become one of your most enjoyable reads.
The closest Japanese myth relating to flooding and creating islands is the tale of Izanami and Izanagi. They stirred the primordial sea and when they lifted the spear out a drop pf seawater fell and formed the first island. Then through their mating were the 14 islands of Japan formed as well as 40 deities.
One piece is basically a fever dream, crossover and references to real world, myths and weirdly addicting. Reading it you never actually feel that its 1100+ chapters rather it feels compressed.😂
i just can't wait for the scene with all of the allies they've made along the way come to help in the final war and we just see the entire city of Water 7 pull up
My whole understanding is that Joyboy only lived during the Void Century. Personally, I think Imu is similar to the world nobles, in that he believes that anyone else is vermin that has no value. The reason he keeps destroying islands by whatever means he does it is so that no one can ever gather enough power to even threaten to overthrow him. I think that Imu started rising into power during the Void Century, and either tricked Joyboy or straight up defeated him at the tail end of those 100 years. He then beckoned the 20 kings to come to the top of Mariejoe (might have spelled that wrong), and promised them and their decendants essentially unlimited power in this world, thus starting the time directly after the Void Century, and the history of the world as we know it. I think a plausible answer for why Imu doesn't seem to care about the rising sea levels is that at this point, his mentality has descended so far that he no longer cares about the lives of the people living below the red line, and sees their deaths as simply a means to an ends in order to maintain his power over the entire world. He continues to use the same means as always to crush chances of a revolution, and doesn't care about the consequences.
In the Gilgamesh epic he talks with someone that survived the great flood and was immortal and later when he finds the imortality fruit he goes for a swim and a snake eats it.
Good video, I'd be surprised if at least some of what you mention in this video isn't an inspiration at least, and I look forward to seeing how it all turns out with you all.
26:05 Vivi looks like her mother, Titi, who married into the Nefertari line. Makes sense, kid looks like one of their parents, it is perfectly normal, no matter how much I wish I wouldn't look so much like my father (it's honestly uncanny, I had a photo of mine artificially aged up, and showed it to my father's wife just to spook her. I'm a damned clone). But Vivi is also the spitting image of Lili, who's Cobra's ancestor. ♫ Sweet Home Alabasta ♪
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Luffy going infinite gear five because the people he saved are constantly giving him food would be crazy.
Don't let my cat know or he will become joyboy to get constant food from his allies
While his heart keep beating with the drum of liberation to signal he needs food lol. So the robot and elephant apologized because they can't give joyboy food in time ... lol
"Gear Mugen!"
10:00 So Yu can turn into a Bear, but his wife turns to stone and he has to raise their child alone? Does that sound familiar to anyone else?
hmm.. Bear..
literally one to one comparison
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@@robinthestate6548 Bear in Japanese is Kuma. So if we sub in Kuma for Yu, this is exactly what happened with him, Ginny and Bonney.
Wtffff
I think the Roger pirates laughed partly because they did everything they could to get to this last island and despite all that they couldn't do anything when they got there. But also probably because what they discovered there : the truth of the world, the void century, the way to "finish" what the ancient kingdom started and their goal was so absurd yet plausible they couldn't help but laugh
25:15 theres a bit of dialogue from luffys flashback after marineford where bluejam says, “humans beings are strange creatures, when we’re thrown into the deepest pits of misfortune we start to laugh” so it’s possible they laughed realising that they served no purpose in saving a doomed world and that after all their work to reach the end they dont really play a role in fixing it. They made it there too early, they werent the main characters of this world.
Thats why we're gonna cry our eyes out when Luffy dies laughing but we know he has hurt inside all this time. Something like that. I would cry for weeks if Oda pulls something like that and i think he will.
In other words, Luffy has the mandate of Heaven
He certainly appeals to heaven a lot when fighting corrupt leaders and restoring rightful rule, even if he doesn't say it outright
This joke *slaps* so hard it's name has reached the gods.
I mean, heaven did save him from being executed in Loguetown. Thunder from heaven is VERY Chinese.
@@ChargeQMI assumed that was Dragon
@@november4196 that was Dragon for sure, but with Dragon being luffy's father and the whole "inherited will" cameos throughout the story, the parallel sustains itself
Look at Merphy theory crafting and researching ancient chinese mythology. So inspirational!!🙌🏾
In costa maya, there was a kingdom that was lost for 800 years and i would not have thought to much about it until i found out a major export of the area was their abundant supply of rubber trees.
Fascinating. Do you know what I can look up to find out more about this lost kingdom?
@@bboops23 actually yes, look up the.ruins of costa maya
in my culture(india) we have similar noah arc story" The Hindu flood narrative centers around the figure of Manu, found in texts like the Matsya Purana and the Satapatha Brahmana. Manu is warned by the deity Matsya (Vishnu's fish avatar) about the impending deluge and is instructed to build an ark to save himself, sages, and seeds of life". notice here manu is warned by deity matsya which is in avatar of fish - odas notes are always with a fish head in water and luffys final attack to kaido is "bajrang gun'' here bajrang means hanuman(monkey god of hindus).
Is this story also in Buddhism? I know there are many parallels & shared aspects between Buddhism & Hinduism so I’m just curious
Matsya avatar is a great reference .
@@LSClubhouse yes it is...buddhism came from india and almost both buddhism and hinduism are same and therefore share same stories
Every culture has its flood. Also bajrang is just a move s name mate. Almost every important term or name in OP, has greek origins.
The ark in OP having chains which are meant to be used by giant sea kings to tug the ship is a huge similarity to Matsya avatar tugging the huge ship in the purana
When you said you'll talk about a Chinese flood myth, the only thing comes
into my mind is "大禹治水". I'm so confused because I have never thought this story could connect to one piece. After watching this video, some parallels you mentioned actually make a lot of sense to me. Great job!
That Gomu Gomu no Mi pronunciation was immaculate
The version of the tale in which Yu turns into a bear and his wife turns to stone is parallel to what happened to Kuma (bear in Japanese) and Jinny/Bonney (Sapphire scale disease) I think you’re onto something!
Joyboy being the one to make the red line would be a hella good twist and there was an idea (not quite a theory) that imu might not be evil but was misguided by the gorosei
I think it could also make sense that this myth is only for wano. Like you said, maybe different island will reflect different myth from the real world and wano already had a wall for presumably 900 years
I love this theory so much. I do believe that by the end, Oda is gonna take inspiration from a lot of mythologies and history and this is most probably one of them.
Just a bit of mythological connection, but one of the most powerful weapons in Chinese mythology was the staff or rod of Yu. This rod was later said to be found and used by the Monkey King in his journeys.
As far as Roger and his Crew laughing at the One Piece, I can only assume from Rogers words that "Joyboy" told the story in an absolutely ridiculous way. Imagine Luffy trying to explain the whole situation and you'd probably laugh too, "This dumb ruler guy is flooding the world and the only way to fix it is to break this big ole mountain but when I punched it, it didnt break!" and honestly that doesnt even remotely give justice to how goofy Luffy would sum things up.
This is so interesting Merphy, you did an amazing job in researching all of this, makes me want to go through all these flood myths and legends myself.
I find it hard to believe that, of all countries, the land of the tsunami has no flood mythology to speak of.
It's not mythology for them, it's Tuesday
I think that's because flood is common so people don't paint it as some special events while for other countries something that happens very rarely that thing has a special cause.
@@Nexmindscape you’re pulling that out of thin air. There’s tons of stuff people experience on the regular that they create mythologies around. Even from what little I know, Japan has that myth about catfish predicting/causing earthquakes with their whiskers. A better explanation would be that Japan isn’t prone to “end of the world” mythos in general, which I’d agree with ‘cause nothing comes to mind. Compared to things like Revelations from the bible.
They've been isolated for a very long time.
@@jcnot9712 First, I never said japan is prone to "end of the world" mythologies.
Second, I never said people don't create mythologies on regular things.
Third, What i said was that due to floods being common in japan they didn't saw as a world ending disaster that they can't defend themselves again, that's why they built elevated houses. Now I am not saying there isn't any myth around flood , there are some deities in japan that people worshipped to protect themselves from flood. But floods never were considered a world ending disaster like potrayed in bible.
The Noah was such a huge in your face hint and everybody went, yeah the world is covered in water so the Noah was made when this wasn't the case yet. However the Noah might have been made because people knew the flooding would happen again or become worse
Merphy looks like if she was drawn by GOda
What do you mean?
How hilarious would it be if Imu and Lily were siblings or childhood friends and Lily decided to help JoyBoy and Imu is still upset about it. It would be a "We could have ruled the world together side by side" kind of situation
There’s also the Norse flood myth that connects to it’s creation myth. When the first giant, Ymir, is killed by Odin, his blood is a brine that floods the universal void and kills all the giants except for Berlgemir and his family. Odin and his brothers then grow the World Tree, Yggdrasil, and other cosmological features out of Ymir’s corpse. I’ll be looking for such references in Elbaf for sure.
The general process of a god becoming the universe is called Pandeism, and I think there’s another flood myth that connects to the Chinese primordial god as well, Pangu.
I enjoyed hearing the legend, and love whenever you bring in outside sources like this! I cannot help thinking Imu and his ilk stole the sand from the gods or at least supplanted the people who originally did, and then turned that ancient weapon said to create the flood upon the world (Imu being the one capable of hitting the button since only an immortal can do it without dying like Doflamingo wanted done on him by Law). As for the ancient weapons, I think Luffy is going to reject the need to use them like he dismissed Pluton which is going to set him apart. I doubt the flood is the only thing Roger read in Laughtale, for the number one reason that it would spoil the surprise about what has been waiting there all this time, and Luffy would no longer be down for the adventure.
I think the main reason Roger was too early was because Posiden wasn't reborn yet.
I think Roger laughed because Joyboy probably told stories about the crazy inventions in his time and if Joyboy is like Luffy he probably did the most ridiculous things with these inventions.
An example would be there was a void century version of the Automatic Cooking Machine and Joyboy made some ridiculous meal with it; stories with his opinion on flying cars etc
If I had to assume there are probably multiple ponelgths on Laughtale and Roger probably read the ponelgth with Joyboy's goofy stories first
I think Joyboy made a mistake in focusing too much in his objective and postponing his friends needs. Because of that they couldn't help him when he needed and he was unable to achieve what he wanted. Now he is doing things in a different way, helping his friends along the way.
Also, the One Piece world has 5 moons maybe, when the 5 align at one side of the world, all the waters will come to that side, flooding one side and uncovering the other side. Maybe even uncovering an ancient realm under water. The Red Line might be able to hold the waters.
learning about chinese mythology from Merphy through the lens of One Piece is not something that i think i will get to experience and certainly will not think of in a million years😂😂
A coworker of mine told me a theory that gol d. Roger created the pirate era to save the people that the government or celestial dragons would leave behind.
Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was a "Chinese Flood" Legend, not a "Chinese Food" Legend 😔
honestly i really like your take on it. you understand oda and how he gets his own inspiration for one piece. keep up the good work with these types of videos.
Really fun theory and really possible that Oda was inspired by this myth :)) It's really cool to witness the start of your journey with One Piece, experiencing the joy of catching up and theorizing along with the rest of us while we wait like goons for the next chapter . :3
There’s another flood myth where two gods was fighting and broke a pillar of heaven which caused the heavenly river (reference to Milky Way) to flood the lower world. Another god Nuwa who created humans from mud went on a quest to find a special stone, melted it down, and patched the heaven.
3:15 That also correlates with the Chinese Four Symbols: The White Tiger of the West (Metal), the Black Tortoise of the North (Water), the Azure Dragon of the East (Wood), and the Vermillion Bird of the South (Fire), all four represented by the Four Mountains (and 4 of their 5 elements), and in the middle of all four, the Emperor, representing the Yellow Dragon (Earth), the Fifth of the Four Symbols (and of the five elements). And as some extra trivia, Yu the Great's creation of the Dragon Gate falls by parting the mountains for the Yellow River (again named after the Yellow Dragon) to flow, that's deeply connected to this myth, is where the myth that inspired Kaido comes from.
EDIT: 14:20 Needless to say, Yu parting the mountain for the water to fall can also be a reference to Luffy destroying the Red Line.
One thing i really love about these types of theories is that when religion/myth starts being discussed and what stories oda may be taking inspiration from, you see that alot of cultures share similar stories. Its one of the reasons myths are so interesting, bc stories were passed from region to region with each place adopting its own rendition.
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I can never guess why people wanna guess what’s gonna happen. I’m not watching any end theories because I’m going to sit back and enjoy. So many times I see youtubes guess what’s gonna happen and be let down, or be right and be not as hype cuz they knew.
Love your chapter reviews though!
Merphy is a treasure to the one piece community. I can’t express enough how much I love these deep dives
I was waiting for this! Since you mentioned this Chinese folklore in that last video, I searched for it.
But then I fell into the rabbit hole of Theory theory no mi via the change of dynasties (with the Zi clan from Shang dynasty, cautionary stories on what happens to corrupt kingdoms, Shun and Gun and the great flood, and the 5 grains etc etc
Goda's unbelievable
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If you are ever feeling unmotivated or anything like that, please know that there are random people all over the world, who don’t necessarily comment but eagerly await your next One Piece masterclass!
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Roger laughed because the answer to the flood and the world was hilarious and crazy and he didn't know or have a way to achieve it. So all he could do was sit back and laugh.🤣 I have had a crazy theory brewing in the back of my head ever since G5 was revealed that maybe the answer is to do something so insane everyone else looks and laughs, but for someone that can dream and do anything in this world that they can think of, it makes sense. Imagine if Luffy were to rubberize every nation in this world and tie them together like one big raft so that they could weather the storm. I'm not saying that's going to happen but that's insane enough to laugh at from a distance and impossible for anyone else to achieve. But for Luffy, it might be possible.
I'm personally subscribing to KoL's recent crazy theory. But this Chinese legend has lots of similarities to One Piece so I'm glad you made this video. Infinite gear five through mother flame? Or maybe even a gear 6? Awesome theories.
Lil theory i cooked up, ik in one video you attributed water rising to the destruction of islands, but that might just be one aspect of it, i think most of the water flooding the world is from reverse mountain spewing loads of water out of an unknown source (maybe water at the core of the world in one piece?)
The hole around Impel Down?
merphy i‘m so happy to see theories videos of yours.❤
keep them coming, so proud how much of a one piece fan you‘ve become i didn‘t expect when you were first reading east blue.
What I love about One Piece is that it made a LOT of people all around the internet really study deeply into old histories and legends from long long times ago. Oda's just sharing his love for history with us one chapter at a time.
I always thought that in the Roger laughed scene. They weren't laughing joyfully but hysterically like they reached their goal at the end and found out they were too early whatever that means
Roger laughing could just sort of be a laugh of futility, like when you’re in such a bad situation all you can do is laugh, but that could easily be wrong considering the significance of laughter in one piece
Was just checking out your channel and went to click on the next vid and this came out 2 min ago omgggg
i know you always say like “oh i’m still so new to the community i don’t think i can really theorize like a lot of the big dogs out there” but i think you don’t give yourself enough credit, stuff like this is great and awesome!
Thank you for this! Amazing research as always... It's crazy how much we can learn with One Piece. It's really one of my favourite aspect of the show
The un-natural "ground" used to build the red line was one of the moons. Which would make anyone laugh, no?
That could be the reason the Lunarians lived on top of the Red Line, if their moon was used as building material for a new continent. It's a little far fetched but has enough logic that i could get behind it. It would definitely blow some minds, especially if Enel comes back to give some elaboration on Moon history
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Enough otherworldly but not too much
Would also make sense why they are called LUNARIANS
Sending gratitude from a Daoist monastery! We study some of these old stories to understand the metaphors embedded within our practice. 💙
Wow great video Merphy! This story really got me thinking about the legacy a father leaves behind for his son!
What if we got it all wrong!
What if Imu is not some other worldly supernatural villain…
What if Imu is Joyboy’s son?!
Imu is resentful of his father maybe because his father’s planned ultimately failed or maybe because he just didn’t agree with his father’s ideals. In other words, Imu did not inherit his father’s (Joyboy) will!
Joyboy was crowned King for his temporary success, but ultimately fails. He then dies or gets murdered, and that is how Imu is crowned king.
A Son that hates his father is an ongoing idea throughout One Piece.
Which reminds me that there are several characters that did not inherit their father’s will.
1. Ace being resentful of living under Roger’s legacy.
2. Doflamingo resents his father for his ideals and he believes himself to be superior.
3. Sanji hates his father and his ideals.
4. That one octopus pirate that stabs White beard because he believes White Beard doesn’t care about him.
5. Luffy becoming a pirate and not a marine.
It’s never the son who inherits the will of the father!
If this theory is correct I want to be to be the first to state:
JOYBOY HAD A SON AND HIS NAME WAS IMU!!!
This is the wife I thought I'd have when I was young. Young dreams... 😅
Is it because she is a manga nerd or for the looks?
Great video, the Yu legend indeed has a lot of parallels- due to this video my head is buzzing with theories and information
You have a beautiful voice. You could definitely get paid to do readings on audio book.
My guess is that Joyboy was the Gun of this story. He was selected, not by Imu but whoever the ruling king of the ancient kingdom was. Roger may have been a false Yu, thinking he was the answer to a problem potentially caused by Imu. Similar to how kaido thought he was Joyboy's successor before Luffy came along. Roger's laughter may have been the realization that he was SO under qualified to carry out the will that all he could do was laugh at his own folly.
I think oder split the mythos and devided it onto different charakters, so part of the story will fit Luffy, part of it fits Kuma and so on. One Piece is a story about nakama, about following dreams and reaching destiny together, after all.
It checks out that China would have its own flood myths. The Yellow River is rather notorious for flooding. In fact, the modern city of Kaifeng sits atop eight previous iterations of itself that were destroyed in floods, one of which was manmade, caused by army leaders exploding a dam during a war.
I love thinking about luffy being on the Noah just picking up all his old friends because to him it would just be a big party
Once the Red Line gets destroyed, the seas merge to create the All Blue to make Sanji's dream come true! Oda's inspirations all converging, years ahead with all the different cultures and histories making the world feel alive. Thanks for the video!
About roger laughing, thinking about the prophecy I couldn't help but think about the ending of a 100 years of solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, trying not to spoil it since its my favorite books, but the final scene with the mysterious manuscripts on that story would fit the reason roger is laughing so well. Also merphy mob psycho 100 i cannot recommend this enough :)
Now I want to replay The Wind Waker. You never know, it might spark some inspiration for future theory crafting.
As always a great video, Merphy. The only thing i would disagree on is Imus involvement. The gorosei when we first saw them outside the room of authority when they went to the throne room nusjuro said that it seems there is a need for a great cleansing. World sinking = great cleansing. I think I'm will initiate the sinking of the world
My guess as to why Roger laughed is that maybe Joyboy had some crazy, almost childish idea to stop the flood and wrote his plan down.
Maybe it's so comically absurd, it has something to do with, idk, moving the moon farther away, idk (because moon and flood... idk). That would at least tie into why there is an actualy civilization there and goes back to Enel being canonically on there.
22:15 Well, there's a big chance that the Im has Uranus (and used the mother flame, a failed energy production experiment by Vegapunk and his incredibly high standards to consider something a success). So if all three weapons are needed to successfully destroy the Red Line (makes sense, one attacks at sea level, one from above, one from below), and same as with the Iron Giant, Luffy is the original power source for Uranus, he kinda needs to defeat the WG first, so yeah, that tracks.
On a side note, I want Uranus to literally be the classic flying saucer UFO, so Luffy's Gomu Gomu no UFO from Punk Hazard was a wink at this
Imu causing a great flood and then telling Joy Boy to fix it seems like something Imu would do.
Oda is just pulling from the stories of my life i tell him about.
1:30 If there's a Chinese myth about it, the same applies to Japan. Japan is to China what Rome is to Greece in regards to culture. Every Greek myth and Legend got translated to Latin, and adopted by Rome (with different names). Japan did the same with China (that had already partially done it with India), but it also added their Shinto on top, same way Rome would adopt the gods of every tribe their conquered into their own pantheon, if they could not immediately translate them to one of their existing gods. And as an example of the last bit, in Rome, Norse Odin became Mercury, and Thor became Jupiter, because their myths more or less aligned in a couple of elements. So very much so that the days of the week, that in English are named after Norse gods, still correlate with the equivalent Roman god represented by the same day in Romance languages. Will use Spanish for the examples here: Monday = Moon's Day = Lunes = Luna (Moon), no god in this one, but starting tomorrow: Tuesday = Ty's Day = Martes = Marte (Mars). Wednesday = Odin's Day (Woden's Day) = Miércoles = Mercurio (Mercury). Thursday = Thor's Day = Jueves = Júpiter (Jupiter). Friday = Freyja's Day = Viernes = Venus. And weekends are the exception, as while you translated Njrod's Day as Saturn's Day in Saturday, we swapped it for the Sabbath in Sábado. As for the Sun's Day in Sunday, that also doesn't follow the Norse naming scheme, we swapped it for The Lord's Day in Domingo (Domini).
EDIT: BTW, since I mentioned the days of the week, all 5 references do tie to One Piece as well: The only 5 planets knows to the Solar System, aka the Five Elder Planets, the Sun, Luffy, and the Moon, Enel's retirement home (just kidding here, the Moon is referenced in One Piece so many times, that listing all of them would be impossible, I would miss several of them, but just two recent ones: The full moon allowing the Minks to go into their Sulong form, and all of the family names of Wano's Daimyo (except for Kurozumi) having the Kanji for "Moon" (tsuki or getsu) at the end).
I have two theories as to why Roger would be laughing at whatever is at Laughtale: 1.) Sometimes, all you can do is laugh. 2.) Maybe whatever's there is something that will fix everything, and the laughter comes from knowing things will be fine.
This is a really cool theory!
Simce Oda DOES pull from real life mythologies/legions/religions/ect
its very logical to think the Chinese Flood myth inspired this story.
Also, im not gonna judge your ramblings.
Ive been into the Annunaki theory recently and there are soooo many parallels that it made me think Oda is trying to share forgotton REAL history hidden in his cute comic.
But thats such an out there theory im sure people would laugh at me. 😅
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look into the Wampis people and the flying rivers they’re trying to protect. I think it’s VERY connected especially since “Wampis” sounds literally like “One Piece”
My theory is that what Emu causes the big ocean sinkholes by taking water out of the sky and thats depleting the sky rivers and thats why no one uses them anymore. Every time Emu uses it to transfer water from the sky to the sea it rises the tide because its quicker than the natural cycle. Im betting that before the void century that sky rivers were utilized all the time and when people knew to look and were able to notice that they were depleting that they got mad as heck because they new the environmental impact it would have and the NWG had to shut that down QUICK hence the void century maybe
Floods and giants are common themes in myths
I feel like the Chinese flood myth Merphy tells in the beginning of the video sounds like the inspiration for the farming arc in vagabond
Maybe they laughed because Joyboy tried some bonkers ways to stop the flood.
My guess would be that he build the red line and tried to put all the water on one side. Reverse Mountain provides the dry side with water without flooding it. Fish-Man Island could be the drainage pipe to the wet side or the place the water flooded back.
Even more crazy would be if Fish-Men Island is the plug for the hole.
The weight of all the water on one side could have also flipped the planet.
Amazing video.....I do have a random intrusive thought. Does she own a rapier 🤨? I've been doing a fanfic about One Piece RUclipsrs being in the OP world. Merphy would definitely be a swordsman with a black rapier 😂. Also if they were in the OP world with their knowledge and theories her, Tekking, KOL. JoyBoyTheories and especially Artur would be on the WG hit list 😂
This is one of my favourite things you do!
Roger's laugh could be a Will of D. laugh. Something like "We arrived too soon. Oh well, we are death hahaha"
years later, couldn't been more spot on merphy
Just going to drop here something that could tie with the flood but is more related to the tie ins, some people have been saying the Will of the Drowned
Perhaps the good v evil aspect is muddied because Imu wants to save the world by creating more land, and enabling the people to forget the atrocities of the past, whereas Joyboy wanted to keep the one big ocean together (hes a pirate after all) because to him its the epitome of freedom.
So I personally think Roger and his crew laughed because the story you find at Laughtale is different from the one at Loadstar. In zoa inu said they didn't need to go to loadstar because the crew was already on track to go to Laughtale. So my theory is that Loadstar is where you find out the secrets of the void century and the world flooding ect. That's why roger was speed running the grandline at the end but when everyone got to Laughtale they found joyboy's story and the truth of why things went the way they did. That's the only way right now I can make sense of why they went from being so urgent as to find a doctor to cure roger and beg their strongest rival for their crew member that could poniglyphs to having a good laugh and essentially a leisurely retirement while they waited things out
The One Piece is a nest of giant birds that was not ready to hatch when Roger arrived at laughtale.
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So… I have a theory that when we finally see laugh tail and the one piece it’ll be something like a giant poniglipgh showing the entire story of One Piece in well … one piece. It would explain why they laugh and how they know it’s not time yet. Would also explain why Roger gave himself up, so he could start or keep the story going, and the reason he was so relaxed would be he already knew what he had to do and accepted his fate because it had to happen for that future to come true. Also Rayleigh doesn’t tell them what’s going to happen because he knows that they may see it as they aren’t free and are destined to do everything, whereas when you discover that on your own it might just be like a big surprise or joke at the end. What kind of adventure would it be if you knew what you were going to do the entire time. Knowing beforehand would change that to something more like a job than an adventure, and Luffy is about doing what he wants to do and having fun.
I sometimes say: I would be crying about it, if I wasnt laughing about how terrible the situation is.
Hey Murphy! You're probably never going to see this but I really hope you'll read a manga called Mairimashita! Iruma-kun (Welcome to the Demon School! Iruman-kun). For some reason it doesn't get nearly as much attention as it should, and it is the definition of fun! I think it could become one of your most enjoyable reads.
Dont know if it was mentioned but im pretty sure theres a cover story where Blue Gilly and Ideo ended the fued between the long limb tribes.
I need to throw an image out there that I heard fr somewhere else…..buggy on the empty thrown. Sitting it it the same way he was introduce
The closest Japanese myth relating to flooding and creating islands is the tale of Izanami and Izanagi. They stirred the primordial sea and when they lifted the spear out a drop pf seawater fell and formed the first island. Then through their mating were the 14 islands of Japan formed as well as 40 deities.
To add to you theory, there is also the mention of a 'Bo Yi'(sounds like Boy) in wiki of this flood in china
These videos are the best, thank you for your research!!
I like this theory a lot, nice job!
One piece is basically a fever dream, crossover and references to real world, myths and weirdly addicting. Reading it you never actually feel that its 1100+ chapters rather it feels compressed.😂
i just can't wait for the scene with all of the allies they've made along the way come to help in the final war and we just see the entire city of Water 7 pull up
After this I want a Sawyer7mage collaboration Merphy
How does Oda even collect so many folk stories? This guy is a freakin genius. Also, day 81 of asking Merphy to read Bleach
My whole understanding is that Joyboy only lived during the Void Century. Personally, I think Imu is similar to the world nobles, in that he believes that anyone else is vermin that has no value. The reason he keeps destroying islands by whatever means he does it is so that no one can ever gather enough power to even threaten to overthrow him. I think that Imu started rising into power during the Void Century, and either tricked Joyboy or straight up defeated him at the tail end of those 100 years. He then beckoned the 20 kings to come to the top of Mariejoe (might have spelled that wrong), and promised them and their decendants essentially unlimited power in this world, thus starting the time directly after the Void Century, and the history of the world as we know it. I think a plausible answer for why Imu doesn't seem to care about the rising sea levels is that at this point, his mentality has descended so far that he no longer cares about the lives of the people living below the red line, and sees their deaths as simply a means to an ends in order to maintain his power over the entire world. He continues to use the same means as always to crush chances of a revolution, and doesn't care about the consequences.
Merphy is the David Lightbringer of one piece, just with actually watchable videos
In the Gilgamesh epic he talks with someone that survived the great flood and was immortal and later when he finds the imortality fruit he goes for a swim and a snake eats it.
Good video, I'd be surprised if at least some of what you mention in this video isn't an inspiration at least, and I look forward to seeing how it all turns out with you all.
The imo and joy boy has a women in sight but she preferred they joy type so inu went in villain arc her name is lily
26:05 Vivi looks like her mother, Titi, who married into the Nefertari line. Makes sense, kid looks like one of their parents, it is perfectly normal, no matter how much I wish I wouldn't look so much like my father (it's honestly uncanny, I had a photo of mine artificially aged up, and showed it to my father's wife just to spook her. I'm a damned clone). But Vivi is also the spitting image of Lili, who's Cobra's ancestor.
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