Truck Master: I just finished an injector job on my 2001 LB7 yesterday, and I truly wouldn't/ couldn't have tackled it without your video. Many thanks, all your videos are very well done, and easy to comprehend! To give back a bit for other newbies: This is a big job, not super difficult but you must commit some time and a lot of patience. It took me about 24-man hours over 2-weekends to complete, as my first time. I performed the work in my driveway with outdoor temps in the 50's dropping to low 30's in the evenings. I surely could get this job done in a single weekend now, without having to refer back to videos and cross reference sub assembly steps -not covered in one place. My previous experiences include brake jobs, struts, shocks, exhaust upgrades, power window repairs, performance tuner, climate control and fluid changes. I will reply back later with more observations encountered for me.
Truck Master I live in the Grand Rapids area. I was wondering if and where you work on customer vehicles? I have a lb7 and I’m almost positive it needs injectors.
Thanks @joecoty3981 for sharing your experience doing the job. I'm confident I'll be able to do it and I reckon it'll take me ALL of 25-30 hrs, perhaps more, but I'm slow when I work on the truck. I'll be inside my garage with the wood stove going so I'll have no excuses if I take much more than that.😅
This is a great instruction video. I purchased a kit from injectors direct.The parts came in a few days. I watched this video carefully and it was the best instructioms. My install went pretty well and my lb7 runs great and is sealed up good. If you are replacing all the injectors buy a kit with new fuel lines the old one have rust and will contaminate your new injectors. With this video and torque specs from the Hayns manual the install took time but went smoothly. The install kit was invaluable as it had all the parts needed, from seals and lock tight for the injector cups new to new steal hi pressure lines and all the banjo bolt seals for return lines and ficm. The video is awsome and helps you get the extra tools for the install. Like you can you can use the end of an air hammer chisel (not the air hammer) in the injector bolt hole to help pop the injector out. To pull injector cups a 3/4 concrete anchor two nuts washer and 1 1/8 id pipe really works pulls the injector cups easily. HF crows foot line wrench set 19mm for torque and removal of hard lines. use Sil glide silicone on all rubber seals is a real pro tip. These tool tips from the video saves $100s in special tools and is apreciated. All tricks found while watching this video. I would recommend watching extra videos on injector cup install. Thank you Truck Master
Being a seasoned automotive technician mid level tech for 10 years prior to starting my business i know i can handle this job. You guys made it look so easy. Im sure it took a little while. I like how diligent he worked. Seams like a great tech. I am planning on buying my first diesel lb7 within a couple years and using it to plow and tow my lawn care trailer. Also ide like a dump bed insert for all the grass clippings, and yard cleanups plus junk removal jobs i do! This truck is legendary.
one of the best videos technically speaking I have witnessed. Im a 32 year mechanic, and can tell you I would take my veichle to these guys. Real pros.
I did this years ago, and would have greatly benefited from your video. As I recall my effort, I'm sure that I spent 4x as much time and effort as I see here. Very well done video!
I worked at a dealership and we had an LB7 come in and as the new guy they were so kind to give me the honor to swap the injectors..... it had over 400000 miles with the original injectors. So the valve covers was never removed which took a good while to pry loose. But it was my first LB7 job and I did enjoy the experience. Actually getting ready to do my injectors, cp3 pump and glow plugs once my parts come in.
Just did my injectors same truck I nicknamed mine the white smoke but now I have to change the name!! I couldn't of done it without this video!! Thank you truck masters!!!!!
Wash engine off First put in shop and let it dry over night dont need any dirt grit and grime getting into the engine Zip lock bags and zip ties versus rags Working thru the wheel well will help saved a persons back Might as well/always replace both thermostats(why not) Silicon on top of the high pressure fuel lines to keep dirt out
I put silicon on top of my HP connectors at the injectors but the more I think about it, so what? I'll never reuse HP lines anyway and the injectors will be new as well. Properly torqued HP connectors will keep dirt out till then (next never, I hope) so I'm not convinced silicon is productive. Gotta admit, I do feel better having done it 😀.
I agree with the silicone to keep dirt out, hard to believe that all the sand/dirt found in the injector high pressure feed line is from fuel and getting by the fuel filter, I could see it working by high pressure lines over time possibly, better to be safe than sorry.
You guys do a real good job documenting the project. I do like it when mechanics use fender aprons when working on my vehicles, only because I wouldn’t want any inadvertent scratches on my truck. Plus it shows consideration for the owners property. Other than that, good job, keep up the good work.
Hands down the best and most useful video I have seen on Lb7 injector swap. Can’t thank you guys enough now let me make it not look so easy like you guys did.
Enjoyed watching what is involved in changing the injectors on my LB7. My mechanic said most of the cost was going to be in the 10-12 hours of shop time. I bit the bullet and paid him to replace them. It’s not my daily driver anymore so I’d be tempted to try it myself after watching your video. Thanks for sharing what’s involved.
I hate when I get on forums or enthusiast facebook pages and hear everyone saying it's a nightmare. I need to do injectors and I've debated just running the truck into the ground....until seeing this. Looks pretty damn simple, just time consuming and annoying. Video is saved!
The only thing I would not do is wipe the tip of the injector with a rag. I've had a 475 cat engine give me problems because a tiny piece of rag lint got stuck in the tip and distorted the spray patter
Terrible memories of when I did this work on my CA LB7 last summer. EGR on the passenger side added to the job. I kept reminding myself of the $3k I was saving, although toward the end, I wasn't so sure. All is well now. Pulling injectors can be easier by putting one of the old HP lines on and using it to twist and pull while prying under the hold down clamp. Toss those old HP lines unless your are sure you can't see any 5-10 micron particles 😀😀😀. As others said, get new ones! Regarding popping the upper valve covers, a short block of wood and a hammer, starting at each end, loosened mine easily. Finally, while you are in there, adjust the valves. All mine were way loose. Use a section of lumber to super tension and block the serpentine belt, then put a wrench on the alternator pulley to easily turn the engine. Don't prefill the fuel filter! Too risky and dirt can easily be introduced into the lines past the filter. Just use the primer button. A final thought. Following considerable research. Im convinced problems with LB7 injectors are fundamentally due to the VCO nozzles originally used. SAC's were used in all later models (LLY and on) and injector problems were much fewer. SAC's are available for LB7's, but only in higher flow designs, which may not be compatible with the original FICM and ECM and will require use of a tuner. All in all, you guys get a solid A on this video! 👍👍👍
Thank you for your tips on the job. The first set cost me 6k at the stealership and I think another set is needed. I have an off and on issue with the RPMs dropping and then coming back up. It's making me crazy! I happens intermittently but is becoming much more frequent.
A heel bar between the fuel rail and pry tab on the valve cover is another quick easy way to get the upper valve cover off. Also the debris in the top of the injector fitting is absolutely normal when you remove the injector lines as the nut is full of debris and it falls into the top of the injector as you are removing the line. That debris is in no way a sign of the condition of the injector itself. Also an air hammer bit fits into the injector hold down bracket perfectly and works better than the actual injector removal tool in my opinion.
This is by far the best step by step video on lb7 injector replacement that I have seen! I have a couple of questions. What did you do to prep the injection lines before reinstalling them? The dirt on the injectors came fron the lines rusting and collecting dirt, not the fuel. Installing used lines is a potential new injector killer. I also capped the fuel rails and the injectors for more dirt protection. I also pulled the cups and replaced them with new cups and o rings just because I was there to prevent a possible future leak. Lastly I also re lashed the rockers back to .012. Other than these couple of thoughts, great vid!
Super easy way to get injectors out is use the high pressure fuel line you pulled off for leverage to wiggle it and pull right out, especially if using new high pressure lines. I prefer to use the number 1 cylinder line due to lack of bends.
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks guys. Now the task doesn't seem as daunting. Can't wait for it to cool off here in southern Louisiana so I can start this process!
Truck Master high of 91 today. I'll gladly trade! Thanks again man. You don't know how much of a help this is. I can show this to one of my friends and we can tag team my truck one weekend soon.
@@shanek6582 was going to start this morning. But a broke a few ribs earlier in the week. So I'll have to put it off unless I can get some friends to help me out
You should seal top of injector nut that connects to injector. It keeps dirt and corrosion out so next time you have to pull injectors all that crap doesn’t end up in injector inlet.
First of all, Congratulations on your you tube channel. Now the real journey begins.... you've motivated me to tear down my truck lol. I have a 2004 Lb7 that needs a couple of injectors redon, because of your "in detailed video" by the way GREAT JOB!! to the both of you...I'm on a mission.... wish me luck guys... if I need any help, I will be contacting you!!!!! LOL Hope y'all have a Happy Holidays!!! HELPPPP
You guys ever notice in most gasket sets, that's designed for both sides, there are only 12 valve cover grommets? They don't put enough in the set for both sides. For example, Mahle VS50549.
When I did mine, I changed all the fuel lines and return line. However, I had to reuse my #7 fuel line as the new one was not bent properly and couldn't find one that would work. I brake cleaned the hell out of the old one and visually inspected it for any rust. Finally got it cleaned up. Runs good but still have the drivers side to do. 😒😒
My dudes…. I have to watch it twice because the talk thru is great but again because slowwwwww down. Get somebody to ask all the dumb questions ON video…. Cuz I have alllll the dumb questions! Cheers guys.. thanks for the video.. (at both speeds)
All be it this vid is pretty old I will post this to help the guys with a CA lb7 you will face a few issues when following this guid because a few things will be different. For starts the passenger side the pcv lines and vacuum lines are on top of the motor causing a problem when you try to disconnect the fuel lines coming off the fuel rail. It really only a problem on cylinders 1&2. The nut on the injector is standard the issue comes with the nut on the fuel rail. I recommend a non flank drive 17mm box wrench for the fuel rail. Torquing it down to the 30 lbs will have to be by feel as it’s pretty hard to get a torque wrench back there. I recommend ordering all new pcv lines before you start this project as well as making sure you have new banjo seals for the fuel lines coming off the FICM. They are not included in most Injectors seal kits for the job. The passenger side will be the harder side between the pcv lines being on top and the EGR sits higher due to a different bolt pattern so it’s just a pain in the ass to get the Injectors out on this side! Thanks for the big guys you saved me a lot of money
I use a 5.5mm on the covers. This cut down on them rounding out not the split hair. This is a great video. I attempted to video myself working it’s impossible. Ty
Dont forget too let them know that sometimes the return bolts will strip out and that the driver side rear valve cover bolts can be and absolute pain in the ass. Ive done lb7 injectors on 3 trucks and never is it a fun ordeal.
As I'm doing the injectors on my ol lb7 I think.. what has this truck been through since I've owed it ten years.? #1 favorite. My brother borrowed it without permission and got a speeding ticket. 113 mph. . Hilarious! Then I wonder how fast is the lb7. ?!
Great video. That job makes me not want to consider a LB7 Duramax. These videos are great. I like to do my research before buying a vehicle. Your content is really opening my eyes on what DURAMAX items to look for and consider when looking for a project DURAMAX. Given the price the LBZs are demanding, think an LLY is looking pretty good! I know you don't want to show how to tune a truck. I totally understand that. However, you say to take an Edge tuner to read injector balance. So, since no one selling a truck would tell a lie, how can you tell if a truck has been tuned and, if it has been tuned, how can you read the tune? The videos are popping up in different order but I think I'll keep watching.
Hey so put new injectors in and add the cat filter set-up, still smoking planning on the Airdog once I can get it. Not sure what I need to be checking out now, just not running as it should yet. I walked into this knowing I was going to need to put lots of work into it. I also know that I've got some major wiring issues could that be part of my problem hidden in the wiring. I will be going through it all once it warms up and I got time. Thanks for all your great videos enjoy following them.
So I changed back to the factory fuel filter and cleaned up mostly. Still have smoke when driving not as bad. When I take off in low gear it acts like it's flooding, like an old c carb motor, then just takes off. Just wondering if I need to replace all the wiring to eliminate that possiblity. Just not sure what I need to look at next.
I really want to thank you by far you two have some of the best videos on this RUclips most of the other channels are not even worth watching anyway that being said I a die hard power stroke guy my veins definitely are pumping blue all my buddies are dmax guys and after watching your channel I’m thinking about buying a blue biscuit type truck I know where there is a few in the 4 to 5000 range a little rusty and crusty but that’s life in the northeast on older trucks once again thank you and I would like to also thank you for your service to our great country being an E7 is no joke
Now I see why this type of repair on the lb7 is so expensive. Pretty labor intensive. I'm looking at a 2004 duramax that MAY be an lb7 but idk for sure I have to check out the vin #. Hopefully it's actually an lly but I just wanted to stop by this video and see what I'd be getting myself into before I make a decision on it. Trying to be smart about this lol
I would suggest replacing the hardlines they rust on the inside that's where the majority of that crud came from. Cheap insurance to protect spendy injectors. I bought a kit from pensicola diesel that included brand new bosch injectors, new hardlines, new cups, new glow plugs plus all seals and return bolts for 2100 bucks cheaper than most places charge for just reman injectors. I also replaced the injector wire harnesses they go through so many heat cycles they get fragile and prone to failure.
If you fast forward the video to 21:28. The wire you are holding what is that for? I went to find the end of it to find it not attached. My trucks been running pretty rough. Could that wire be the reason?
I didn't have much smoking at my exhaust, but I did have fuel in my oil.it was full up with diesel. The only thing that alerted me to this was I got a low oil psi warning at idle. So can I assume I have one or more bad injector. It's an 04 gmc lb7 that has 140k I bought in 2006 2nd owner. As far as I know never had injectors done.
So a genuine question here. Why don't mechanics spray down a motor prior to tearing it down? Is it more of a concern of causing more issues than what's currently going on? Before I work on my vehicles I will usually wash them off after soaking them with engine degreaser & then warming the engine up to dry all the excess water from the engine. Seems to me that things would go better if everything is clean??? Just curious...
Pretty damn thorough video! I dont even have an lb7 but I own a 6.2 haha Looking to buy one eventually though! Hope i never have to refer back to this video but at lest i know its here now! Thanks guys!
i’ve got a question lol how would i single out one injector that’s stuck open i don’t have the money to put it in a shop or buy all injectors i just need to single out one for now to get it running i was told to disconnect a injector line and witch ever one stops the knocking is the one but when i disconnect it the fuel line it won’t crank i appreciate any advice!
thats honestly not as bas as i thought it would be basically just a bunch of stuff to get to the valve cover and thats it haha thanks man my injectors are good but if they ever go out now i know i can do this in my garage instead of paying a shop over 1k
I mean, you guys did a great job but I wish you would have still filmed the drivers side. That is much more difficult and I can’t seem to get any of the injectors out.
I was told if you put in new injectors you will have to get your truck tuned is that only for bigger injectors or is that for stock injectors as well thank you for your time
At 17:35, can you explain more on how to get it to pop in place? I just did my injectors this week. I just to put my weight on them going in the cup but never felt them pop. They definitely looked like they seated with the hold down as I saw it get pressed another 1/2” down when tightening the hold down. about 2 minutes after starting back up. I got bunch of white smoke out the vent/PCV hose that dumps under the truck so I think an injector didn’t seal correctly.
Sounds like a leaky injector cup to me, fairly common for them to become unseated properly during injector removal. I pulled all 8 of my cups (using the tool they mentioned) and resealed them with red loctite & let it sit for a day to cure w/ the injectors torqued down. People have mixed opinions whether you should replace, reseal, or even worry about them when doing injectors but i like to think of it as cheap insurance. ---I am not a certified mechanic so please do your own due diligence as white smoke is not indicative of injector cups specifically. Check coolant pressure, compression, balance rates, rail pressure, etc...
@@WhySoSerious11311 It was smoking out this vent hose when I got the truck and balance rate for injector #1 was getting about past spec so I decided to replace the whole bank. New injectors/HP lines/seals and still had some smoke when I reassembled everything. I do have a fuel leak at HP line #5 but I don't think a fuel leak would cause smoke. I left the cups in because none came out when I removed the injectors. Might just tear it down again and do the cups this time.
Great video I used it to do my injectors because I didn't want to pay an enormous amount to my dealer for the work. I was able to get it done and I crossed my fingers when it was time to try and start it. It only took two sessions of pumping the fuel pump for it to crank and man it sounded sweet compared to the way it sounded before I changed the injectors. But unfortunately I ran into another problem and that is the RPM's will not go over 2000. I couldn't believe my luck as it seems it is in "limp mode" and there seems to be several different ways to try and clear it up but right now I am going to buy a code reader so I can clear the codes to see if it will run correctly afterward. Any help with this issue would be appreciated.
Hey Jim! I know it has been 4 years since you posted this comment but I'm getting ready to replace my injectors on my O2 GMC lb7 2500 mine went into limp mode because of bad injectors my question to you is did you find out the actual problem?? Was it the harness? Just curious because that was also an issue with theis trucks
Great video!! Quick question. Does it matter how you rewire the injectors? Asking for a friend that's working on an LB7 on his on watching this exact video. Thanks guys!!
nice video I kinda cringed on reusing the hard lines but ive seen them not have corrosion. that snap on crows foot looks like a must have. I have a leak on passenger side looks to be coming from under ficm hard line but looking more around engine valley I see moist rubber lines oh boy hopefully I can fix it this weekend
I'm in about getting my first Duramax. What you guys recommend ? If this is the main & most expensive problem in LB7 Then if I learn how to fix them it's become a good idea buying the LB7 better than other Duramax?
I have a question... I have a 2002 LB7 and one of the high pressure fuel lines is leaking. I am going to replace it and saw how you take it off. The video really doesn't show how you put it back on. Do you just pull the old one off and put a new one on? Does it require a certain torque spec? I'm guessing it doesn't since you just used a crows foot wrench to break it loose. Also, do I have to worry about air in the system?
Great information! Much more detailed and easier to follow than the other how-to vids on the subject. As a side note, there are 12 bolts on the lower valve covers.
I cant find the next video on the start up afterwards. Just replaced all my injectors, bled the housing and the valve. Still no fire. Not sure what the issue is
I’m getting a lot of fuel mixed with oil and it’s poring out in the front of the block and in In between the transmission and the motor on the bottom!!! Please help me!!! I have broke it down three times now and I’m just wanting to give up!
Truck Master: I just finished an injector job on my 2001 LB7 yesterday, and I truly wouldn't/ couldn't have tackled it without your video. Many thanks, all your videos are very well done, and easy to comprehend!
To give back a bit for other newbies: This is a big job, not super difficult but you must commit some time and a lot of patience. It took me about 24-man hours over 2-weekends to complete, as my first time. I performed the work in my driveway with outdoor temps in the 50's dropping to low 30's in the evenings. I surely could get this job done in a single weekend now, without having to refer back to videos and cross reference sub assembly steps -not covered in one place. My previous experiences include brake jobs, struts, shocks, exhaust upgrades, power window repairs, performance tuner, climate control and fluid changes. I will reply back later with more observations encountered for me.
Thanks for the feedback I’m glad it worked out 💪
Truck Master I live in the Grand Rapids area. I was wondering if and where you work on customer vehicles? I have a lb7 and I’m almost positive it needs injectors.
Thanks @joecoty3981 for sharing your experience doing the job. I'm confident I'll be able to do it and I reckon it'll take me ALL of 25-30 hrs, perhaps more, but I'm slow when I work on the truck. I'll be inside my garage with the wood stove going so I'll have no excuses if I take much more than that.😅
This is a great instruction video. I purchased a kit from injectors direct.The parts came in a few days. I watched this video carefully and it was the best instructioms. My install went pretty well and my lb7 runs great and is sealed up good. If you are replacing all the injectors buy a kit with new fuel lines the old one have rust and will contaminate your new injectors. With this video and torque specs from the Hayns manual the install took time but went smoothly. The install kit was invaluable as it had all the parts needed, from seals and lock tight for the injector cups new to new steal hi pressure lines and all the banjo bolt seals for return lines and ficm. The video is awsome and helps you get the extra tools for the install. Like you can you can use the end of an air hammer chisel (not the air hammer) in the injector bolt hole to help pop the injector out. To pull injector cups a 3/4 concrete anchor two nuts washer and 1 1/8 id pipe really works pulls the injector cups easily. HF crows foot line wrench set 19mm for torque and removal of hard lines. use Sil glide silicone on all rubber seals is a real pro tip. These tool tips from the video saves $100s in special tools and is apreciated. All tricks found while watching this video. I would recommend watching extra videos on injector cup install. Thank you Truck Master
Thanks glad it helped
Thanks for your input, every morsel of info that helps another guy out with the job is much appreciated.
Being a seasoned automotive technician mid level tech for 10 years prior to starting my business i know i can handle this job. You guys made it look so easy. Im sure it took a little while. I like how diligent he worked. Seams like a great tech. I am planning on buying my first diesel lb7 within a couple years and using it to plow and tow my lawn care trailer. Also ide like a dump bed insert for all the grass clippings, and yard cleanups plus junk removal jobs i do! This truck is legendary.
one of the best videos technically speaking I have witnessed. Im a 32 year mechanic, and can tell you I would take my veichle to these guys. Real pros.
Hey. I’m a 32 yr old mechanic as well. And I agree! Haha
I did this years ago, and would have greatly benefited from your video. As I recall my effort, I'm sure that I spent 4x as much time and effort as I see here. Very well done video!
I worked at a dealership and we had an LB7 come in and as the new guy they were so kind to give me the honor to swap the injectors..... it had over 400000 miles with the original injectors. So the valve covers was never removed which took a good while to pry loose. But it was my first LB7 job and I did enjoy the experience. Actually getting ready to do my injectors, cp3 pump and glow plugs once my parts come in.
Wow 24 minutes for lb7 Injectors! That has to be some kind of record! It took me and my mechanic 8 hours!
I was charged over 2k for replacing a bad injector. After watching this video, Whew! I'm glad someone else did it!
Just did my injectors same truck I nicknamed mine the white smoke but now I have to change the name!! I couldn't of done it without this video!! Thank you truck masters!!!!!
Wash engine off First put in shop and let it dry over night dont need any dirt grit and grime getting into the engine
Zip lock bags and zip ties versus rags
Working thru the wheel well will help saved a persons back
Might as well/always replace both thermostats(why not)
Silicon on top of the high pressure fuel lines to keep dirt out
Thanks for the input we did install new thermostats but good point
I put silicon on top of my HP connectors at the injectors but the more I think about it, so what? I'll never reuse HP lines anyway and the injectors will be new as well. Properly torqued HP connectors will keep dirt out till then (next never, I hope) so I'm not convinced silicon is productive. Gotta admit, I do feel better having done it 😀.
I agree with the silicone to keep dirt out, hard to believe that all the sand/dirt found in the injector high pressure feed line is from fuel and getting by the fuel filter, I could see it working by high pressure lines over time possibly, better to be safe than sorry.
You guys do a real good job documenting the project. I do like it when mechanics use fender aprons when working on my vehicles, only because I wouldn’t want any inadvertent scratches on my truck. Plus it shows consideration for the owners property. Other than that, good job, keep up the good work.
If you watched the video it was the bigger guys truck. So he obviously didn’t care
Hands down the best and most useful video I have seen on Lb7 injector swap. Can’t thank you guys enough now let me make it not look so easy like you guys did.
Enjoyed watching what is involved in changing the injectors on my LB7. My mechanic said most of the cost was going to be in the 10-12 hours of shop time. I bit the bullet and paid him to replace them. It’s not my daily driver anymore so I’d be tempted to try it myself after watching your video. Thanks for sharing what’s involved.
Thanks for this awesome video. I must have watched it 100 times while changing my LB7 injectors. This video is the best one I’ve found. Well done.
Thanks
of ALL the vidz on THAT style injector removal it is the absolute BEST on all of internet. good on u all !!!!!8)
This is by far the best step by step in how to replace lb7 injectors I’m going to be replacing my tomorrow wish me luck !!
Thanks! You got this
Truck Master would you recommend re adjusting the valves?
Johnny, how'd the job go? Any problems or did this video walk you through without any hitches? I've got to do mine before long, thanks.
I hate when I get on forums or enthusiast facebook pages and hear everyone saying it's a nightmare. I need to do injectors and I've debated just running the truck into the ground....until seeing this. Looks pretty damn simple, just time consuming and annoying. Video is saved!
Exactly
Most guys go to school or some kind of voter classes to learn this but look here we are all learning it for free thanks guys
This is the best video for injector replacement for LB7. Definately gave me the confidence to tackle myself. Thanks for the videos and info.
Thanks
After seeing these reviews it looks like I'll save time looking at any other videos, seeing how this is the best one! 😁
The only thing I would not do is wipe the tip of the injector with a rag. I've had a 475 cat engine give me problems because a tiny piece of rag lint got stuck in the tip and distorted the spray patter
Terrible memories of when I did this work on my CA LB7 last summer. EGR on the passenger side added to the job. I kept reminding myself of the $3k I was saving, although toward the end, I wasn't so sure. All is well now.
Pulling injectors can be easier by putting one of the old HP lines on and using it to twist and pull while prying under the hold down clamp. Toss those old HP lines unless your are sure you can't see any 5-10 micron particles 😀😀😀. As others said, get new ones!
Regarding popping the upper valve covers, a short block of wood and a hammer, starting at each end, loosened mine easily.
Finally, while you are in there, adjust the valves. All mine were way loose. Use a section of lumber to super tension and block the serpentine belt, then put a wrench on the alternator pulley to easily turn the engine.
Don't prefill the fuel filter! Too risky and dirt can easily be introduced into the lines past the filter. Just use the primer button.
A final thought. Following considerable research. Im convinced problems with LB7 injectors are fundamentally due to the VCO nozzles originally used. SAC's were used in all later models (LLY and on) and injector problems were much fewer. SAC's are available for LB7's, but only in higher flow designs, which may not be compatible with the original FICM and ECM and will require use of a tuner.
All in all, you guys get a solid A on this video! 👍👍👍
Thanks
Thank you for your tips on the job. The first set cost me 6k at the stealership and I think another set is needed. I have an off and on issue with the RPMs dropping and then coming back up. It's making me crazy! I happens intermittently but is becoming much more frequent.
A heel bar between the fuel rail and pry tab on the valve cover is another quick easy way to get the upper valve cover off. Also the debris in the top of the injector fitting is absolutely normal when you remove the injector lines as the nut is full of debris and it falls into the top of the injector as you are removing the line. That debris is in no way a sign of the condition of the injector itself. Also an air hammer bit fits into the injector hold down bracket perfectly and works better than the actual injector removal tool in my opinion.
Thanks for the video guys! I’ve watched it twice now. I’m sure it will take some time, but with your video I’m sure I can do it. Great tips too.
Thanks 🙏
This is by far the best step by step video on lb7 injector replacement that I have seen! I have a couple of questions. What did you do to prep the injection lines before reinstalling them? The dirt on the injectors came fron the lines rusting and collecting dirt, not the fuel. Installing used lines is a potential new injector killer. I also capped the fuel rails and the injectors for more dirt protection. I also pulled the cups and replaced them with new cups and o rings just because I was there to prevent a possible future leak. Lastly I also re lashed the rockers back to .012. Other than these couple of thoughts, great vid!
All great points! We used brake clean for the injector lines and compressed air
Tanker bill what was the procedure to seating the new injector cups?
Definitely wanna clean up those lines. Major step in this. But otherwise a great video and I do like the air hammer tool trick!
This video made me comfortable to try it on my own and it’s done now, stripped 3 of the valve cover bolts though😂
Super easy way to get injectors out is use the high pressure fuel line you pulled off for leverage to wiggle it and pull right out, especially if using new high pressure lines. I prefer to use the number 1 cylinder line due to lack of bends.
Great video!!! This channel will grow big with videos like this. Huge thanks to both of you for making it happen!
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks guys. Now the task doesn't seem as daunting. Can't wait for it to cool off here in southern Louisiana so I can start this process!
Give us some of that heat up here in Michigan lol good luck to you
Truck Master high of 91 today. I'll gladly trade! Thanks again man. You don't know how much of a help this is. I can show this to one of my friends and we can tag team my truck one weekend soon.
Jason, gave you done the injector job yet?
@@shanek6582 was going to start this morning. But a broke a few ribs earlier in the week. So I'll have to put it off unless I can get some friends to help me out
@@shanek6582 just got finished with the first bank. Its really not that bad. Just a bunch of stuff to take off and put back on.
Videos like these are the reason I subscribed. Thank you very much.
Thanks I Appreciate that
Yesssir, Me Too!
Videos like these are the reason I love my cummins 😂 Great video though!!
You should seal top of injector nut that connects to injector. It keeps dirt and corrosion out so next time you have to pull injectors all that crap doesn’t end up in injector inlet.
First of all, Congratulations on your you tube channel. Now the real journey begins.... you've motivated me to tear down my truck lol. I have a 2004 Lb7 that needs a couple of injectors redon, because of your "in detailed video" by the way GREAT JOB!! to the both of you...I'm on a mission.... wish me luck guys... if I need any help, I will be contacting you!!!!! LOL Hope y'all have a Happy Holidays!!! HELPPPP
You guys ever notice in most gasket sets, that's designed for both sides, there are only 12 valve cover grommets? They don't put enough in the set for both sides. For example, Mahle VS50549.
When I did mine, I changed all the fuel lines and return line. However, I had to reuse my #7 fuel line as the new one was not bent properly and couldn't find one that would work. I brake cleaned the hell out of the old one and visually inspected it for any rust. Finally got it cleaned up. Runs good but still have the drivers side to do. 😒😒
My dudes…. I have to watch it twice because the talk thru is great but again because slowwwwww down. Get somebody to ask all the dumb questions ON video…. Cuz I have alllll the dumb questions! Cheers guys.. thanks for the video.. (at both speeds)
Perhaps a video on some injector nozzles on the LBZ next?? I’d love to see that and I’m confident you could make a quality video showing the process.
Thanks for the suggestion
It seams as if y’all have had done this a time or two great job step by step
Great video, love how in depth you get in your videos.
All be it this vid is pretty old I will post this to help the guys with a CA lb7 you will face a few issues when following this guid because a few things will be different. For starts the passenger side the pcv lines and vacuum lines are on top of the motor causing a problem when you try to disconnect the fuel lines coming off the fuel rail. It really only a problem on cylinders 1&2. The nut on the injector is standard the issue comes with the nut on the fuel rail. I recommend a non flank drive 17mm box wrench for the fuel rail. Torquing it down to the 30 lbs will have to be by feel as it’s pretty hard to get a torque wrench back there. I recommend ordering all new pcv lines before you start this project as well as making sure you have new banjo seals for the fuel lines coming off the FICM. They are not included in most Injectors seal kits for the job. The passenger side will be the harder side between the pcv lines being on top and the EGR sits higher due to a different bolt pattern so it’s just a pain in the ass to get the Injectors out on this side! Thanks for the big guys you saved me a lot of money
Excellent work, and thank you for the content!!! I'm gearing up to do this job on my LB7 this spring 😀🤘
Holy crap
I'm glad I had a shop do my LB7.
I use a 5.5mm on the covers. This cut down on them rounding out not the split hair. This is a great video. I attempted to video myself working it’s impossible. Ty
Dont forget too let them know that sometimes the return bolts will strip out and that the driver side rear valve cover bolts can be and absolute pain in the ass. Ive done lb7 injectors on 3 trucks and never is it a fun ordeal.
As I'm doing the injectors on my ol lb7 I think.. what has this truck been through since I've owed it ten years.? #1 favorite. My brother borrowed it without permission and got a speeding ticket. 113 mph. . Hilarious! Then I wonder how fast is the lb7. ?!
This video just saved my bank account thank you guys so much
Great video. That job makes me not want to consider a LB7 Duramax. These videos are great. I like to do my research before buying a vehicle. Your content is really opening my eyes on what DURAMAX items to look for and consider when looking for a project DURAMAX. Given the price the LBZs are demanding, think an LLY is looking pretty good!
I know you don't want to show how to tune a truck. I totally understand that. However, you say to take an Edge tuner to read injector balance. So, since no one selling a truck would tell a lie, how can you tell if a truck has been tuned and, if it has been tuned, how can you read the tune? The videos are popping up in different order but I think I'll keep watching.
You won’t know if the truck is tuned unless you hook it up to a computer but that’s ok since you could just get it retuned
Hey so put new injectors in and add the cat filter set-up, still smoking planning on the Airdog once I can get it. Not sure what I need to be checking out now, just not running as it should yet. I walked into this knowing I was going to need to put lots of work into it. I also know that I've got some major wiring issues could that be part of my problem hidden in the wiring. I will be going through it all once it warms up and I got time.
Thanks for all your great videos enjoy following them.
So I changed back to the factory fuel filter and cleaned up mostly. Still have smoke when driving not as bad. When I take off in low gear it acts like it's flooding, like an old c carb motor, then just takes off. Just wondering if I need to replace all the wiring to eliminate that possiblity. Just not sure what I need to look at next.
I really want to thank you by far you two have some of the best videos on this RUclips most of the other channels are not even worth watching anyway that being said I a die hard power stroke guy my veins definitely are pumping blue all my buddies are dmax guys and after watching your channel I’m thinking about buying a blue biscuit type truck I know where there is a few in the 4 to 5000 range a little rusty and crusty but that’s life in the northeast on older trucks once again thank you and I would like to also thank you for your service to our great country being an E7 is no joke
Now I see why this type of repair on the lb7 is so expensive. Pretty labor intensive. I'm looking at a 2004 duramax that MAY be an lb7 but idk for sure I have to check out the vin #. Hopefully it's actually an lly but I just wanted to stop by this video and see what I'd be getting myself into before I make a decision on it. Trying to be smart about this lol
How did it work out?? I'm in the exact same position but I'm definately thinking it's a lb7.
I would suggest replacing the hardlines they rust on the inside that's where the majority of that crud came from. Cheap insurance to protect spendy injectors. I bought a kit from pensicola diesel that included brand new bosch injectors, new hardlines, new cups, new glow plugs plus all seals and return bolts for 2100 bucks cheaper than most places charge for just reman injectors. I also replaced the injector wire harnesses they go through so many heat cycles they get fragile and prone to failure.
Thats where I bought my kit from a couple weeks ago. Great kit,
Adam Bodin, are those updated injectors with the hardened ball seat?
@@kaseyschaffer7692 yea there the new version. Plus no core charge when you return the old ones within 30 days.
Thanks for the video! Keep them coming
How's them injectors working out for you? I agree with replacing the high pressure fuel lines.
The video around 21:25 minute mark. You talk about the 8mm black wire. Is that off the intake heater relay? Where is it mounted to?
Another trick I use to pull the injector out of the cup is by putting the hardline back on and use that as leverage to pull it.
If you fast forward the video to 21:28. The wire you are holding what is that for? I went to find the end of it to find it not attached. My trucks been running pretty rough. Could that wire be the reason?
I think you forgot the step where you question why you spent so much money on injectors.
And the part where you spend 2 hours on the last bolt on the upper and lower valve cover😂. Those engineers are so goofy🙄
@@richardhayes7526 they are, but only the lb7 is like this.
How much?
You should own a 6.7 power stroke if you think duramaxes are expensive
I didn't have much smoking at my exhaust, but I did have fuel in my oil.it was full up with diesel. The only thing that alerted me to this was I got a low oil psi warning at idle. So can I assume I have one or more bad injector. It's an 04 gmc lb7 that has 140k I bought in 2006 2nd owner. As far as I know never had injectors done.
Damn, that's hell of process doing this job.
It sure was
So a genuine question here.
Why don't mechanics spray down a motor prior to tearing it down?
Is it more of a concern of causing more issues than what's currently going on?
Before I work on my vehicles I will usually wash them off after soaking them with engine degreaser & then warming the engine up to dry all the excess water from the engine.
Seems to me that things would go better if everything is clean???
Just curious...
Pretty damn thorough video! I dont even have an lb7 but I own a 6.2 haha
Looking to buy one eventually though! Hope i never have to refer back to this video but at lest i know its here now!
Thanks guys!
i’ve got a question lol how would i single out one injector that’s stuck open i don’t have the money to put it in a shop or buy all injectors i just need to single out one for now to get it running i was told to disconnect a injector line and witch ever one stops the knocking is the one but when i disconnect it the fuel line it won’t crank i appreciate any advice!
How long did this take you
Thank you guys , you are make my day God bless you
thats honestly not as bas as i thought it would be basically just a bunch of stuff to get to the valve cover and thats it haha thanks man my injectors are good but if they ever go out now i know i can do this in my garage instead of paying a shop over 1k
I mean, you guys did a great job but I wish you would have still filmed the drivers side. That is much more difficult and I can’t seem to get any of the injectors out.
Honestly not to bad seems simple abd straught forward, you earned a sub here
I was told if you put in new injectors you will have to get your truck tuned is that only for bigger injectors or is that for stock injectors as well thank you for your time
That’s only if you have bigger injectors
Thank you very much your very knowledgeable and extremely helpful in all your videos
SOB cummins guy here , thinking of getting a beater lbz as a work truck but not anymore after this nightmare
Should have hot washed the fuel lines to the injectors. If you don't your going to have problems.
Very well done video! Hope to see some LML stuff in the future.
Thanks and I plan on some good lml stuff in the future
Extremely helpful video thank you!
You should make a list of all the tools you will need and list them in the comment section
If you need to ask you don’t have the tools
@@IDAHOJAKE no shit....
@@IDAHOJAKE kinda the whole point of asking dipshit
At 17:35, can you explain more on how to get it to pop in place? I just did my injectors this week. I just to put my weight on them going in the cup but never felt them pop. They definitely looked like they seated with the hold down as I saw it get pressed another 1/2” down when tightening the hold down. about 2 minutes after starting back up. I got bunch of white smoke out the vent/PCV hose that dumps under the truck so I think an injector didn’t seal correctly.
Sounds like a leaky injector cup to me, fairly common for them to become unseated properly during injector removal. I pulled all 8 of my cups (using the tool they mentioned) and resealed them with red loctite & let it sit for a day to cure w/ the injectors torqued down. People have mixed opinions whether you should replace, reseal, or even worry about them when doing injectors but i like to think of it as cheap insurance.
---I am not a certified mechanic so please do your own due diligence as white smoke is not indicative of injector cups specifically. Check coolant pressure, compression, balance rates, rail pressure, etc...
@@WhySoSerious11311 It was smoking out this vent hose when I got the truck and balance rate for injector #1 was getting about past spec so I decided to replace the whole bank. New injectors/HP lines/seals and still had some smoke when I reassembled everything. I do have a fuel leak at HP line #5 but I don't think a fuel leak would cause smoke. I left the cups in because none came out when I removed the injectors. Might just tear it down again and do the cups this time.
Thanks for the informative video Truck Master and Logan. I’ll be doing them soon to my 02 I just bought.
Best LB7 injector video. Thanks
Awesome video, can't wait for the next one.
You guys done a very good job at explain the whole process thank you very much appreciate it
Very informative and well explaining details and tip good 👍 job 🖖I learned new tricks if you have more video like this
Great video I used it to do my injectors because I didn't want to pay an enormous amount to my dealer for the work. I was able to get it done and I crossed my fingers when it was time to try and start it. It only took two sessions of pumping the fuel pump for it to crank and man it sounded sweet compared to the way it sounded before I changed the injectors. But unfortunately I ran into another problem and that is the RPM's will not go over 2000. I couldn't believe my luck as it seems it is in "limp mode" and there seems to be several different ways to try and clear it up but right now I am going to buy a code reader so I can clear the codes to see if it will run correctly afterward. Any help with this issue would be appreciated.
Hey Jim! I know it has been 4 years since you posted this comment but I'm getting ready to replace my injectors on my O2 GMC lb7 2500 mine went into limp mode because of bad injectors my question to you is did you find out the actual problem?? Was it the harness? Just curious because that was also an issue with theis trucks
Did you not hve to bleed off the pressure of the high pressure side of the fuel system?
Great video!! Quick question. Does it matter how you rewire the injectors? Asking for a friend that's working on an LB7 on his on watching this exact video. Thanks guys!!
I need a couple good conservative Americans like you guys to hang out with and do this to my 2003 ZF6 LB7
Great video guys! I'm looking forward to any and all upgrades you do to the blue biscuit/lb7.
Saved me $2000 doing it my self
nice video I kinda cringed on reusing the hard lines but ive seen them not have corrosion. that snap on crows foot looks like a must have. I have a leak on passenger side looks to be coming from under ficm hard line but looking more around engine valley I see moist rubber lines oh boy hopefully I can fix it this weekend
If you are only replacing upper and lower valve cover gaskets, do you still need to drain the coolant?
Do you have a list of parts used for this injection change ?
I'm in about getting my first Duramax.
What you guys recommend ?
If this is the main & most expensive problem in LB7 Then if I learn how to fix them it's become a good idea buying the LB7 better than other Duramax?
I have a question... I have a 2002 LB7 and one of the high pressure fuel lines is leaking. I am going to replace it and saw how you take it off. The video really doesn't show how you put it back on. Do you just pull the old one off and put a new one on? Does it require a certain torque spec? I'm guessing it doesn't since you just used a crows foot wrench to break it loose. Also, do I have to worry about air in the system?
Great information! Much more detailed and easier to follow than the other how-to vids on the subject.
As a side note, there are 12 bolts on the lower valve covers.
bought my injectors from LDS 2 years ago. installed outside in the snow. wouldnt of did this if it wasnt for this video.
Hey how long will lb7 injectors last for setting for a long time like as in 4 years please get back with me
What brand/where did you get injectors from?
I’ve done two of these I get the air hammer chisel and give it a whirl tomorrow. If it doesn’t work I guess the slap hammer coming out lol 😂😂
You got this
@@TruckMaster I’ll give you a heads up how it go’s tomorrow lol
@@TruckMaster had to use the slap hammer it swell up so tight. I just about bought a new head lol
Thank YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! Helped alot
I cant find the next video on the start up afterwards. Just replaced all my injectors, bled the housing and the valve. Still no fire. Not sure what the issue is
which injector kits do you recommend? where do you purchase for best value?
That’s a lot of damn work
It sure is
How much money in the injectors and needed parts do you have in the job??
About to dive into my lb7 in few days here, little nervous....
Anyway someone could give me a full list of parts i will need before i dive in?
Thanks
Colby Chase doing mine right now. Check out Lincoln diesel. They have a kit for it
Thank you guys your video helps a ton!!!!
Gotta love that cringeworthy prying on the aluminum mating surface of the head
I’m getting a lot of fuel mixed with oil and it’s poring out in the front of the block and in In between the transmission and the motor on the bottom!!! Please help me!!! I have broke it down three times now and I’m just wanting to give up!