and guy that is closest in looks to "normal" Superman is Captain Atom x Dr Manhattan (who was THE Superman and also literally the Big Blue of Watchmen) and also a legacy hero of this universe Really like how Jurgens and others pushed the concepts to the break and played on their names. Worth mentioing that in 1936 our "normal" Superman was supposed to be an "alien" (because of note on some strange language) from future Earth sent back in time, Kents also were Sam and Molly before Unnamed Pa and Mary (in Superman #1, last time origin was written by creator).
I like how the Tangent universe explores how the existence of superheroes and villains would effect the “real” world and how over the years society just…adapted to them over time 😁👍👍 8:02
I loved the cover design. It was more mature than most others. In 1999 or so, I bought a "lifetime" supply of grocery bags with the first Tangent heroes on them from a thrift shop a few blocks away from the San Diego Con. I don't have any left 😞
I love that you did the bit where Joker (in the first issue) was 1 woman with 3 identities, and not the later Joker stuff where she was actually the 3 women. I thought that was such a cop-out by the later writers. Great stuff! Love your channel! Instant subscribe!
One of my favorite alternative universe’s of DC!!!! I especially love this universe’s Green Lantern, The Flash, Plastic Man, ManHunter, Superman & The Spector!!
When DC created the Tangent Universe they were intentionally doing the same thing they did in the late 1950s where they created new heroes with the same name as the Golden Age Heroes (such The Flash, Green Lantern, and The Atom). In most cases the new heroes were similar powers wise, but not in every case such as with The Atom. With The Tangent Universe they created a lot of characters/items/organizations with familiar names but made them very different. As examples, The Batman was inspired by the nickname of Batman, the Dark Night, Impulse is a brand of soda pop, and Imra Ardeen (the name of Saturn Girl in The Legion of Super-Heroes) is a woman who meets The Batman (she resembles a woman he loved in the past). The Tangent Universe hasn't been forgotten. In the story "The Legion of Three Worlds", set 1,000 years in the future, Superboy-Prime goes to the Superman Museum and one of the displays is a picture of the Superman of the Tangent Universe.
I also liked the versions of Stan. It could be better, I can concede that, but Stan still got juice enough to in one chapter of the character put some interesting seed than can be used by other writers. For example, his version of Superman, is a stranded cop from a advanced civilization. Here he have superpowers, is the strongest guy of the world, but still have a huge inferiority complex inside him. And that I found it an interesting twist.
@@chantalmac5857 it had it's ups and downs. I would love to know how they decided which heros to mix. some made sense like cap and supes, or even wonderwoman and storm. but batman and wolverine?!? iron man and green lantern?!? GHOST RIDER AND FLASH!?! some really unique ideas came out of it.
Tangent easily for me. It does it's own thing with the characters while still maintaining a flair of individuality and shades of grey that very much resonate with the DC style. It's very true to a lot of the DC tropes whether it's legacy or presenting different ideals through a prism while still remaining true to a lot of core elements. Superman for example still has a lot in common with Siegel and Shuster's while completely remixing the fundamentals on a more superficial level. Stan Lee's universe was too much a Marvelization of the brand for my tastes. I don't really like marvelized writing all that much with DC heroes. It's probably a key reason I always liked pre-crisis Superman despite growing up in the era where post-crisis Superman was the guy on the newsstands every week back in the late 80's and early 90's.
The Amalgam Magneto and the Magnetic Men issue inspired some of my childhood superhero creations. And in rereading it I think it's still fun. Not sure I liked much else but that's still one issue up on the others. The Just Imagine issues I read felt stale and were a little boring, though there was some decent Bachalo art in the Catwoman one if I'm remembering correctly. Tangent I read a couple of and was quickly disintered, though I remember liking some of the character designs. So, due to the enjoyment of a single issue, Amalgam wins! Plus at least it was a kind of fun seeing how they'd merge creations from the Big Two. And this is more time spent writing about these books than I ever thought I'd do, haha.
i'm a big fan of the Stan Lee creations. Shame we never got a Martian Manhunter version. Interesting takes, cool character designs, and even it's own Crisis event. it's the winner for me. the Amalgam ones were very hit or miss. some were great but there was enough crap to balance it out somewhere in the middle. the Tangent universe never really had any significance to me.
I find it a little odd that Powergirl showed that she really didn't want to be enslaved or tied down by joining teams, yet for some reason decided to join this Superman, a Tyrant who is very open about taking away people's Freedom. Seems more than a bit contradictory.
The designation of this universe in the original multiverse was Earth-97, meanwhile in the original 52 multiverse was Earth-9 and in the current multiverse is Earth 9.
I agree that it is likely that copyright issues prevent wider use of the Tangent Universe characters. It is similar to what happened with Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew. It was originally going to be the JLA (Justa Lotta Animals) and featuring funny animal versions of the Justice League members, such as Super Squirrel, Wonder Wabbit, The Crash, and The Martian Anteater. Unfortunately, if it became popular copyright issues would have prevented it from being more widely used. So instead, Scott Shaw! created Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew which was set on Earth-C. Later the JLA (Justa Lotta Animals) made an appearance and were put on Earth-C Minus. Later, the animals of Earth-C had to evacuate their Earth. They came to the main DC Universe, but were transformed into regular animals but with human-level intelligence. I remember reading that Captain Carrot ended up being Zatanna's pet rabbit. Still later, the Zoo Crew was reborn and placed on Earth-26. It is an earth which operates under logic of cartoon physics.
Thank you for taking the time and doing these videos in relation to the DC Alternate Earths. Unfortunately, as a person who grew up during the latter part of the Silver and the Bronze Age Comics' storylines, I can understand why DC and Marvel Comic Sales are terrible. These writers are either completely incompetent and have no clue on how to develop storylines or they're lazy and put anything in these comics. To me, the last twenty years of Comics have been awful. I know the kids who watched Justice League/Justice League Unlimited (JL/JLU) love that series and it reminds them of their childhood, but to me that animated series was dreadful. I never watch that series. Kind of reminds me of the horrible ending to Samurai Jack's Season 5 series finale. I can't watch that animated series anymore either. Season 1 through 4 was good, but Season 5's ending ruined the series. It retconned everything and voided all his adventures from Seasons 1 through 5. What an appalling ending. That's why I can't follow DC or Marvel anymore because who knows what horrible ending the writers will do to a character at the end of their story arc. Consequently, I don't waste my time anymore. It's a shame really.
@@chantalmac5857 Thank you for your question. This may sound somewhat unusual, but my favorite arc is from Marvel and it's the Spider-man - The Black Cat arc from 1979 until around 1985, the end of the bronze era. As much as I like Spider-man with MJ, this was a departure from the usual storylines in the Spider-man Comic. I thought they would stay together and get married.. That should've happened. Yes, Marvel's Secret Wars and DC Crisis on Infinite Earths were great, but these storylines ended the Bronze Age of Comics. I don't think Comics ever recovered, in my opinion. I also think the wedding of MJ and Peter Parker/Spider-man starts the slow decline of comics as a whole for DC and Marvel. The decline accelerated through the 1990s and 2000s. It'll never come back, unfortunately. I liked one and two-part stories In the 1970s. Then in the 1980s. it became 3, 4, or more part storylines over multiple comic books. For example, The Amazing Spider-man (TASM), running concurrently with Peter Parker's The Spectacular Spider-man. and then Web of Spider-man. By the 1990s, there were too many books, and the market became saturated. Now a story arc has 15 to 20-part stories over multiple titles. It's absurd. I stopped collecting and reading comics in 1993. If I want to catch up on a character, no matter what company produces the character including Marvel or DC, I go to Read Comics online. It's free. Here's the link: readcomiconline.li/. Lastly, I'll list my favorite characters from Both Marvel and DC: Marvel 1 Spider-man (Peter Parker) 2. Captain America (Steve Rogers) 3. Iron Man (Tony Stark) 4. Thor (Donald Blake Storyline) 5. The Incredible Hulk (Bruce Banner - Loved the 1970s TV Show) 6. The Avengers. 7. Daredevil Never got into the X-Men. DC 1. Superman 2. Batman 3. Wonder Woman 4. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) 5. The Flash (Barry Allen) 6. Green Arrow 7. Justice League of America (1960 through 1985) 8. Superboy 9. Justice Society of America 10. Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes.
I feel the same. Its been decades since I've purchased a comic book. I still occasionally get older graphic novels, but nothing in either Marvel or DC is worth a spit to follow. I might check out this Earth 9 Tangent universe just to see if story wise its any good cuz the current level of writing is crap
@@darkwolfe6286 Absolutely. Use the free link I provided to check out the storylines. For me, I'm not going to check out Earth 9 Tangent. I like Earth 22. Alias Earth 96, "The Kingdom Come" story line.
I.m impressed. Another black Superman. And then a Captain Comet who is also black. It would have been really nice to see a couple of black women as superheroes as well. But Earth 9 is still interesting nonetheless
You always incorrectly refer to Earth 1 as the main earth. That’s incorrect. Earth prime is designated as Earth 0. Earth 1 on the other hand is the earth where all the heroes are young, just starting out and have never met each other. It is it’s own imprint and is very different from earth prime.
@@DCnez Around 54 seconds in you refer to Earth 9 as being far different from Earth 1 which you also referred to as New Earth. “New Earth” is the old name for the main DC universe. Post New 52 Earth 1 and “New Earth” are not the same thing anymore. However you may have simply been referring to the Earth 1 that existed during the events in Earth 9 that this video is about. I don’t really know enough about Earth 9 to say what the state of the multiverse was when stories from there were being written. Maybe I’m misunderstanding that, idk.
The Different Worlds of the DC Multiverse: ruclips.net/p/PLql5QOuzBBufClXDIufb3V3Yy3jTY2xhd
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noice
this is a really good playlist
cool playlist
these vids are so dope bro plzzzzz do more
This is a very interesting alternate universe
yes indeed
I Agree!!!! The Flash & BatMan are my favs on this earth
Probably because it has nothing in common aside from names to any other universe
I like how this Superman is based on the original idea of The Super Man, who was a telepathic bald guy.
and guy that is closest in looks to "normal" Superman is Captain Atom x Dr Manhattan (who was THE Superman and also literally the Big Blue of Watchmen) and also a legacy hero of this universe
Really like how Jurgens and others pushed the concepts to the break and played on their names.
Worth mentioing that in 1936 our "normal" Superman was supposed to be an "alien" (because of note on some strange language) from future Earth sent back in time, Kents also were Sam and Molly before Unnamed Pa and Mary (in Superman #1, last time origin was written by creator).
You're absolutely right
I like how the Tangent universe explores how the existence of superheroes and villains would effect the “real” world and how over the years society just…adapted to them over time 😁👍👍 8:02
This is a very interesting canon.. I never knew anything about them...
Flash was definitely my fav from that alt-earth
Okay now THIS should be a series, animated or not this has a lot of potential
One of the most interesting and strange worlds you've covered!
Thank you. It is an interesting reality
I loved the cover design. It was more mature than most others. In 1999 or so, I bought a "lifetime" supply of grocery bags with the first Tangent heroes on them from a thrift shop a few blocks away from the San Diego Con. I don't have any left 😞
The Superman of this Earth literally embodied Megatron's saying:
Peace through tyranny
True
And in doing so the hypocrisy of that saying. If peace is preserved through tyranny and fear then it is not truly peace.
@@andresmarrero8666 Megatron is a Decepticon. That would be the point. It's in the name
@@Piledriver2006 very true.
@@andresmarrero8666 not if everyone agrees with it.
I love that you did the bit where Joker (in the first issue) was 1 woman with 3 identities, and not the later Joker stuff where she was actually the 3 women. I thought that was such a cop-out by the later writers. Great stuff! Love your channel! Instant subscribe!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
I wish I'd found this before! It took me while to understand what different Earths were when I first got into DC
The Superman in this universe is hands down one of my fav characters
nice
I love this version
I love it too
One of my favorite alternative universe’s of DC!!!! I especially love this universe’s Green Lantern, The Flash, Plastic Man, ManHunter, Superman & The Spector!!
I love that the Flash’s parents are clear copies of the Fantastic Four.
I am very much interested with the telepathic Superman. Cool vid
Cool, thanks
Superman was originally a bald headed telepathic and villain. So props to this series for bringing him back to his roots
@@Piledriver2006 basically lex luthor with powers
@@shugieboy14 exactly
Tangent Superman is a beast
I really like this Earth, very different and unique compared to every other one.
I like how many of the superheroes names are the originals taken literally, like the flash and plastic man
Wow this is an interesting alternate universe that could and should be a series or at least an animated move or 2.
Very interesting video, hopefully you'll make some more in the future
i definitely agree on that
That's the plan!
I loved the tangent universe! I was so excited for it to continue!!! then.. it didn't. sad days...
I totally agree!
@@DCnez
😔 Yeah…
So there wonder woman is pretty much a super-powered gamora.
Joe Chill is a scientist in this universe? :O I've seen everything now xd
When DC created the Tangent Universe they were intentionally doing the same thing they did in the late 1950s where they created new heroes with the same name as the Golden Age Heroes (such The Flash, Green Lantern, and The Atom). In most cases the new heroes were similar powers wise, but not in every case such as with The Atom.
With The Tangent Universe they created a lot of characters/items/organizations with familiar names but made them very different. As examples, The Batman was inspired by the nickname of Batman, the Dark Night, Impulse is a brand of soda pop, and Imra Ardeen (the name of Saturn Girl in The Legion of Super-Heroes) is a woman who meets The Batman (she resembles a woman he loved in the past).
The Tangent Universe hasn't been forgotten. In the story "The Legion of Three Worlds", set 1,000 years in the future, Superboy-Prime goes to the Superman Museum and one of the displays is a picture of the Superman of the Tangent Universe.
I also liked the versions of Stan. It could be better, I can concede that, but Stan still got juice enough to in one chapter of the character put some interesting seed than can be used by other writers.
For example, his version of Superman, is a stranded cop from a advanced civilization. Here he have superpowers, is the strongest guy of the world, but still have a huge inferiority complex inside him. And that I found it an interesting twist.
The Tangent universe is my second favorite with only the Amalgam universe beating it.
The Amalgam universe was fascinating
@@chantalmac5857 it had it's ups and downs. I would love to know how they decided which heros to mix. some made sense like cap and supes, or even wonderwoman and storm. but batman and wolverine?!? iron man and green lantern?!? GHOST RIDER AND FLASH!?! some really unique ideas came out of it.
The tangent atom and superman need to be explored more.
nice video. really informative
Glad you liked it!
This is so COOL. Love the video,dude. Keep'em coming.
Tangent easily for me.
It does it's own thing with the characters while still maintaining a flair of individuality and shades of grey that very much resonate with the DC style. It's very true to a lot of the DC tropes whether it's legacy or presenting different ideals through a prism while still remaining true to a lot of core elements. Superman for example still has a lot in common with Siegel and Shuster's while completely remixing the fundamentals on a more superficial level.
Stan Lee's universe was too much a Marvelization of the brand for my tastes. I don't really like marvelized writing all that much with DC heroes. It's probably a key reason I always liked pre-crisis Superman despite growing up in the era where post-crisis Superman was the guy on the newsstands every week back in the late 80's and early 90's.
The Amalgam Magneto and the Magnetic Men issue inspired some of my childhood superhero creations. And in rereading it I think it's still fun. Not sure I liked much else but that's still one issue up on the others. The Just Imagine issues I read felt stale and were a little boring, though there was some decent Bachalo art in the Catwoman one if I'm remembering correctly. Tangent I read a couple of and was quickly disintered, though I remember liking some of the character designs. So, due to the enjoyment of a single issue, Amalgam wins! Plus at least it was a kind of fun seeing how they'd merge creations from the Big Two. And this is more time spent writing about these books than I ever thought I'd do, haha.
Amazing video!!!Loved it
Thank you!!
Correct
Ngl the doom patrol would’ve gotten whipped by the secret six
Tangent was the best, Amalgam was the most fun, and Just Imagine was tough to categorize
now i need an entire animated show based on them
agree
This universe deserve it's own justice League show
i'm a big fan of the Stan Lee creations. Shame we never got a Martian Manhunter version. Interesting takes, cool character designs, and even it's own Crisis event. it's the winner for me.
the Amalgam ones were very hit or miss. some were great but there was enough crap to balance it out somewhere in the middle.
the Tangent universe never really had any significance to me.
This Black Superman is unstoppable! He's like Jesus or a Messiah or God!!!!!!
I find it a little odd that Powergirl showed that she really didn't want to be enslaved or tied down by joining teams, yet for some reason decided to join this Superman, a Tyrant who is very open about taking away people's Freedom. Seems more than a bit contradictory.
hmmm yea. Maybe she's under Superman's telepathic influence
Maybe Powergirl wanted to decide what side to be on and Superman may have been very persuasive
Yeah, I will always find relationships sus when one party throws around mind control a lot.
amazing
thanks
Atom III is my "Superman". Sometimes I read some stories of Superman to get that Atom III feel.
The designation of this universe in the original multiverse was Earth-97, meanwhile in the original 52 multiverse was Earth-9 and in the current multiverse is Earth 9.
I've watched ever one. You should do some more. Very good. Learned a lot. 👍😊
I gotta admit. DCs multiverse is much better than marvels what if. This DCs multiverse is the REAL WHAT IF SITUATION
I love Atom 3 & The Flash couple.
Wow such a Different take on the dc heroes
Shame that DC doesn't do anything with this Earth anymore 😔
yea that's quite sad. It would have been nice to see more of this telepathic Superman
Damn that Superman way better 🤣
I love this channel
Thank you
This would be a great series
I like the plots of this Earth but I'm not liking the artwork of the comics of Earth 9
really? i adore the ugly 90s/early 2000s artstyle
How about a video about the Justice league 3000?
Ill check on that
This is pretty badass
Great ideas there. Wish it wasn't hamstrung by being tied to old properties.
I agree that it is likely that copyright issues prevent wider use of the Tangent Universe characters. It is similar to what happened with Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew.
It was originally going to be the JLA (Justa Lotta Animals) and featuring funny animal versions of the Justice League members, such as Super Squirrel, Wonder Wabbit, The Crash, and The Martian Anteater. Unfortunately, if it became popular copyright issues would have prevented it from being more widely used.
So instead, Scott Shaw! created Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew which was set on Earth-C. Later the JLA (Justa Lotta Animals) made an appearance and were put on Earth-C Minus.
Later, the animals of Earth-C had to evacuate their Earth. They came to the main DC Universe, but were transformed into regular animals but with human-level intelligence. I remember reading that Captain Carrot ended up being Zatanna's pet rabbit.
Still later, the Zoo Crew was reborn and placed on Earth-26. It is an earth which operates under logic of cartoon physics.
Soundsnkind of fun.
Damn darkside reaching right now
Wow i love this!!
What race is Earth 9 Superman? I'm just wondering because of his interesting wardrobe and darker skin tone.
Black Superman but cool
Literally Wonder.....? Women?!
Lovecraftian Green lantern
The flash literally.
Jokers
Dark knight Batman literally.
Without freedom, you're not truly alive.
Is there any channel like this for Marvel ?
See I want to see a movie adaptation of this
Wait. Joseph (Joe) Chill existed in the nineties?
Why writer always chose Lois for hero.Selina would be Greenlantern
Would love to be a writer for this universe!!!!
me too :)
Thank you for taking the time and doing these videos in relation to the DC Alternate Earths. Unfortunately, as a person who grew up during the latter part of the Silver and the Bronze Age Comics' storylines, I can understand why DC and Marvel Comic Sales are terrible. These writers are either completely incompetent and have no clue on how to develop storylines or they're lazy and put anything in these comics. To me, the last twenty years of Comics have been awful. I know the kids who watched Justice League/Justice League Unlimited (JL/JLU) love that series and it reminds them of their childhood, but to me that animated series was dreadful. I never watch that series. Kind of reminds me of the horrible ending to Samurai Jack's Season 5 series finale. I can't watch that animated series anymore either. Season 1 through 4 was good, but Season 5's ending ruined the series. It retconned everything and voided all his adventures from Seasons 1 through 5. What an appalling ending. That's why I can't follow DC or Marvel anymore because who knows what horrible ending the writers will do to a character at the end of their story arc. Consequently, I don't waste my time anymore. It's a shame really.
So what’s your favourite story arc during the Silver or Bronze Age of comics?
@@chantalmac5857 Thank you for your question. This may sound somewhat unusual, but my favorite arc is from Marvel and it's the Spider-man - The Black Cat arc from 1979 until around 1985, the end of the bronze era. As much as I like Spider-man with MJ, this was a departure from the usual storylines in the Spider-man Comic. I thought they would stay together and get married.. That should've happened.
Yes, Marvel's Secret Wars and DC Crisis on Infinite Earths were great, but these storylines ended the Bronze Age of Comics. I don't think Comics ever recovered, in my opinion. I also think the wedding of MJ and Peter Parker/Spider-man starts the slow decline of comics as a whole for DC and Marvel. The decline accelerated through the 1990s and 2000s. It'll never come back, unfortunately.
I liked one and two-part stories In the 1970s. Then in the 1980s. it became 3, 4, or more part storylines over multiple comic books. For example, The Amazing Spider-man (TASM), running concurrently with Peter Parker's The Spectacular Spider-man. and then Web of Spider-man. By the 1990s, there were too many books, and the market became saturated. Now a story arc has 15 to 20-part stories over multiple titles. It's absurd. I stopped collecting and reading comics in 1993. If I want to catch up on a character, no matter what company produces the character including Marvel or DC, I go to Read Comics online. It's free. Here's the link: readcomiconline.li/.
Lastly, I'll list my favorite characters from Both Marvel and DC:
Marvel
1 Spider-man (Peter Parker)
2. Captain America (Steve Rogers)
3. Iron Man (Tony Stark)
4. Thor (Donald Blake Storyline)
5. The Incredible Hulk (Bruce Banner - Loved the 1970s TV Show)
6. The Avengers.
7. Daredevil
Never got into the X-Men.
DC
1. Superman
2. Batman
3. Wonder Woman
4. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
5. The Flash (Barry Allen)
6. Green Arrow
7. Justice League of America (1960 through 1985)
8. Superboy
9. Justice Society of America
10. Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes.
I feel the same. Its been decades since I've purchased a comic book. I still occasionally get older graphic novels, but nothing in either Marvel or DC is worth a spit to follow. I might check out this Earth 9 Tangent universe just to see if story wise its any good cuz the current level of writing is crap
@@darkwolfe6286 Absolutely. Use the free link I provided to check out the storylines. For me, I'm not going to check out Earth 9 Tangent. I like Earth 22. Alias Earth 96, "The Kingdom Come" story line.
Ending a story is difficult work. Just ask George R. R. Martin.
If I lived on Earth-9, I'd join the Resistance. Freedom is something worth fighting and dying for.
cool
Good 😊
Thanks 😊
Doesn’t feel like DC at all. This is more like Stan Lee’s DCU. I like changing things up, but sometimes it fails. This fails for me.
FAZ DA ETRAN 2
Did you mean Earth 2?
I.m impressed. Another black Superman. And then a Captain Comet who is also black. It would have been really nice to see a couple of black women as superheroes as well. But Earth 9 is still interesting nonetheless
it's honestly funny how they reuse names like Nightwing and firestorm instead of just making a counterpart
I like the name reuse. Its like ripples going on a pond… not the same but clearly related.
Stan Lees just imagine JL
This earth should return an get year long run.
It's weird to have a dc universe whose hard counter is Magneto
Wait, mind control Superman has an ex-wife? How?
I feel like these characters are a little too op
So injustice but everyone is different
This feels more like a Todd McFarland comic.
How about a universe where everyone is not jacked
And why haven't we seen any of this on the big screen!? I mean I get why but these are dope ass stories!
Your accent makes me think you are a Kababayan. I might be wrong.
Does this mean the Harry Potter world is on, Earth 9 3/4 ?
Prysm oh most look like spider girl almost slip on that DC
We're Ukraine not Cuba
Not a big fan of earth 9
You always incorrectly refer to Earth 1 as the main earth. That’s incorrect. Earth prime is designated as Earth 0. Earth 1 on the other hand is the earth where all the heroes are young, just starting out and have never met each other. It is it’s own imprint and is very different from earth prime.
Thanks for the feedback. However, I don't think I mentioned on this video that Earth 1 as the main earth.
@@DCnez Around 54 seconds in you refer to Earth 9 as being far different from Earth 1 which you also referred to as New Earth. “New Earth” is the old name for the main DC universe. Post New 52 Earth 1 and “New Earth” are not the same thing anymore. However you may have simply been referring to the Earth 1 that existed during the events in Earth 9 that this video is about. I don’t really know enough about Earth 9 to say what the state of the multiverse was when stories from there were being written. Maybe I’m misunderstanding that, idk.
super liberal
Ewwww... that kind of superman is always gross
why?
@@DCnez just not right .... they can just make a new character for those ppl, no need to pander to other communities
amazing