@@Cam_AJR nice animation,not much adherence to the facts(12:58 qoute is wrongfully attributed to ben gurion when it was said by ezra danin) and of course omission of many attack by the arab sides against hebrew communities and pogroms against mizrahi communities across the muslim world prior to 1948.
Oh boy, the sequel to the highly anticipated, controversial topic of Israel and Palestine. Seriously though, keep up the good work, because a lot of people avoid this subject quite often. 👍
@KnucklSandwich the Brits I just pointed out that the original comment implied that the British held important lands and that the reason they controlled it caused all the issues which is not entirely true. It certainly didn't help with all the issues.
@@humanfrommars882It isn't even a fair fight and they didn't loss they just don't have soldiers just militia u don't even know what u talking about so stfu and go cry to mommy
@@shachar9111 How was it disproven when ITS A FACT. So youre saying al-nakba didnt happen?? How emotionless and racist can you be to say that?? You disgust me.
The pro Israelis are saying that this is one sided and is pro palestine , most of the sources were from jewish diaries and books , even the oppressors wrote about what happend and you say it is one sided ?
@@callistoscali4344 the point is that Israeli supporters state that the sources were pro Palestinians, which btw most of them were from Zionists as you can see from the video
For the people claiming that this video is biased: 1: this video is not based on a single source. You can check the description 2: Two of the sources are by isreali historians.
Calling Ilan Pepe, the most anti Zionist anti Israeli “historian” an Israeli historian as a pretext for an unbiased view is worse than not using them at all. The narrative presented here is extremely biased and one sided
Yeah that’s not exactly correct. One major example is Ilan Pape that earned the unfortunate nickname of “the Israeli lord haw haw”. Whose book is unfortunately riddled with errors and lacking historical context. Now I don’t want to go rambling on about the politics of Israeli historians as it’s annoying and there are people far more knowledgeable about that subject than me. But what I can tell you for sure is that every single source mentioned is written from the Palestinian narrative, so you’re not seeing the full picture, only half of it.
@@Ashad636I dunno dude, I would know slot less then you but there was a out 4 times in this entire video where he said that it was based on Israeli testimony, none of it defending or justifying the Israeli actions
@@RomanUrbanek I mean if you want every content to be anti Arab, and if someone said Arabs were right for a sec then it's propaganda, you need to hold your racism a little
Right, but he never mentions that hundreds of thousands of Arabs migrated to the territory of Palestine during British rule due to economic development from the arrival of Jewish migrants/refugees. It's almost funny how he always mentions "Jews" as the colonizers and "Palestinians" as the indigenous people. Even though there has been a permanent Jewish population on the land and Jews are proven to have ancient and genetic ties to the land of Israel. This is biased in the sense that only Jewish migrations are mentioned in this video but non of the Arab migrations are mentioned.
I might like you a little more than Oversimplified, especially after your Vietnam video. Theres humor but you also dont take the tone/horrors of war completely out of it for the sake of humor. Not saying one is better than the other, youre both absolutely phenomenal to watch. Just my opinion
They were Palestinians in the sense that they lived in that territory (and the region) of Palestine. When most people refer to Palestinians, including in this video, they refer to the Arab ethno-nationalist group residing primarily in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Israel, Jordan and parts of southern Lebanon and Syria. This distinct ethnicity developed before 1964, contrary to what some say. They often cite Golda Meir in making that argument. But the ADL has acknowledged that is mistaken and they believe she misspoke and actually was referring to the idea of Palestinians arguing for their own independent state.
That land has shifted hands for many years, jews do have a legitimate historical claim to the land. You loose the war territory is lost its been that way like forever.. am sure if the Arabs would have won the war with Israel 💯 there would be no jews and Israel would not exist
Yep and it's been like that from the start. If the Palestinias would just lay down their weapons they could actually form a country in Gaza.@@glaceo_o229
@@glaceo_o229 The Arabs have been offered land to peacefully coexist five times. They don't want that. They want to exterminate the Jews... And the Jewish response is to defend themselves. Get used to it.
There is only one thing you miss that during nakba there was a truce for a month with a American meditation in this truce no can buy weapons but Israel buy weapons from USA during this truce
This 'Long Seminar' (starting 31 December 1947) mentioned at 8:40 seems to bear a chilling similarity to the the Wannsee Conference (20 January 1942) chaired by Rheinhard Heydrich to ensure the Final Solution to the Jewish Question, in that it seems to have been chaired by Ben Gurion to ensure the Final Solution to the Palestinian Question. If you were on the receiving end of either you may have found the difference between them largely academic. Both seem insanely inhumane!
my issue is the fact that things like the expulsion of the Jews of Jerusalem was left out, in the last video he completely got early Zionism wrong (Hertzl was only a figurehead not the ideological leader)
Stop lying to yourself that you have an unpopular opinion. I live in a western country and it seems that a majority of people support Palestine (in public, not counting governments). Yes, maybe if this video was pro-western then some people wouldn't be complaining, but some people still would, and much more people (including YOU) who aren't complaining on this video would be complaining.
Well decades of Anti-semitism made some racist Jews want protection from racism. So they did that, by going to a racist colonial state, and wanted their help to do that they do best.. Which is colonialism, on a land they may or may not have a connection to, but they themselves acknowledged the fact that the Arab Palestinians definitely did. And because of that, antisemites started to support racist Jews to undermine the Native Palestinians.. And they succeeded. So.. No, we can't get along, simply because the one that causes all the problems.. Basically, the western world, won't allow you to because it goes against their interests. So if you want to stop this, be defiant towards this system and be vocal with your support for the native Arab Palestinians. Because when it was Palestine, Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in peace and were coexisting despite Muslim Dominance. When israel came along, the Christians and the Muslims are being killed daily, but the Jews are helping commit those atrocities. And if any Jews recognise the vile nature of it and don't want to.. They themselves are imprisoned or physically assaulted by the police. Seriously. There's videos of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews being assaulted by the police. Context does matter but yeah remember, context of Pro-Palestinian Jews exists too
Delete the Quaran which teaches 1 billion people their ultimate goal is to be martyrs for allah (baal) and muhammed the caravan robber and child molestor. We tried to get along but the quran is by far the greatest obstacle.
Great Job! 👍 Thanks for putting this 2 part seris out! The short format/cartoons make it more accessible for those who dont want to watch live reports, or dont understand the conflict. Prior to October 7th many people, including myself knew very little about the situation in Palestine, and even less about the asymmetrical nature of the conflict. Its high time the truth about Israel and their genocidal ways was publicized!
3 weeks ago israeli forces raided jenin (wich had nothing to do with the war by the way) and they went to the place where my mom works at she was at home thank god because they trashed the place computers chairs tables everything just broken oh yeah and they stole the money that was there *how is this self defence?*
@user-cs2mx4lt3q because Jenin is the city where most terror attacks come from. It's not a "raid". It's as ridiculous as saying Iraqi forces "raided" mosul
So you wanna justify self defence Alr ottomans invasion of kingdom of Jerusalem they had killed all the people of Jews and anyone who remained was turned into a slave or kicked out justify that lil bro
Why is this so controversial. The Palestinians were literally colonized. I understand why the Jews were desperate for a safe haven. But Britain was just doing what they were doing best then and Israel continued it.
I’d personally love to see a semi-sequel semi-continuation semi-moreindepthlook of your German Revolution videos looking at the last year or two of the Weimar Republic. More specifically, the period from January 1933-August 1934 where the Weimar Republic still sort of existed and possibly could have been saved, everything after Hitler became chancellor in January 1933 to Summer of 1934 when the last remaining checks collapsed. There's sort of 5 distinct phases to it, the January-March period where everything was more or less the same it had been under prior degree governments(Hitler was chancellor, Hindenburg ruled by decree, same old), the March-July period where the Reichstag fire and Enabling act gutted what little protections existed and democracy ended (March was the communists and vocal extremists, by July even the moderate conservative parties or other right wing nationalist parties were banned), the August 33-January 34 period where the main players were all generally happy with the direction things were going(Von Papen, Hidenburg, Schleicher, and of course Hilter himself), the period from February 1934-June 1934 where Papen and Hindenburg realized things had gotten out of control and started trying to reign him in, and the final two months where the Weimar Republic went from being gutted to completely destroyed. Those final few months were utterly chaotic. It was discovered in May Hindenburg was dying. Von Papen's marburg speech intended to reign in Hitler in June failed and lead to him losing his job. The Night of the Long Knives in July killed most of the remaining dangerous opposition, including Kurt Schleicher one of the few remaining moderates with any influence, and most of Von Papen's staff including his right hand leaving him powerless. It also wiped out the SA, the threat of which had been the main thing the Moderate faction was using to weaken Hilter(talking about the violent street thugs causing trouble to the citizens and scaring the army into thinking they were losing their jobs), now suddenly the people viewed the NSDAP as protecting them from the street violence and the Army was suddenly swinging to their side. Then finally in August Hindenburg(the only person with any power outside of the party at this point and the only guy with enough credit to keep the army on their side) died, the positions of Chancellor and President were merged destroying any hope of ousting Hilter, and Von Papen was exiled to Austria under threat of death. Some say if Hindenburg had lived a little longer and stayed a little sharper, or if the Night of the Long Knives had failed and Röhm was able to cause significant internal issues in the NSDAP, or if Papen hadn't given Goeballs full control of Prussia's police force(thus gutting his own power base and giving the NSDAP full reign over the largest province) they MIGHT just have been able to claw back control. If you really wanted to you could extend it to August 1932-August 1934. (August 1st 1932 was the first date the NSDAP had the majority seats, that's a sort of power even if they were refused chancellor ship. Goring was also made Leader of the Reichstag as a compromise which was one of the highest positions in the government in August 1932), as long as the latter period isn't neglected. Oh and during the January 1933 onward period they actually changed the national flag to the old imperial tricolor one, it was only changed to the infamous red one after Hindenburg died
Funny how a big history animated channel like Oversimplified dodged Israeli occupation even a year of the of ethnic cleansing that made so many experts resurface and discuss the history of Israeli occupation at length! Great job guys! Keep it up.
This whole conflict is basically. "He hit me, so I hit him back" over and over and over. I REALLY hope we can live here like human beings and break the cycle.
Its impossible tho. Slightly possible but mostly impossible. Each side has a want. And theyre not stopping until they get what they want. And if one side gets their want then the other side doesnt get their want. So its an endless cycle.
@@ammarmohamed3583 my point is that it doesn't matter who hit first. Just stop freaking hitting each other. We are basically playing here the prisoners dilemma and no one trusts each other anymore.
Wow these were really good videos very informative. The level of shock that I am in right now is unimaginable. They literally just went in the middle of the night and started kicking people out blowing up houses with people in them they didn't care about life. It makes you ashamed to be a human being
False balancing .. 10 loud trolls/bots don´t compare with 10.000 viewers (who don´t comment) Its clear : We stand with Palestine - not with the apartheid pariah state
@@Aniket-fl8qk He should make it. Absolutely no pakistani other than jahils defend or support it. Pakistan carried out a genocide the exact way the zionists carried out a genocide.
UN guy casually ignoring that the lands he gave arabs were cities primarily populated by the arabs "70% of the land", while the areas granted to israel had much higher jewish concentrations of population. Disingenuous to assume "70% of the land should go to the 70% of the citizens", thereby forcing a population swap based off of the numbers, and not where people were actually located in that moment. It wasn't just to "make up for the guilt of the Holocaust". Although that was definitely part of it, that's very simplistic. It had something to also do with actual concentrations of citizens by ethnicity in the British territory in that moment.
Didn't the UN put major urban centers and territories with majority Arab population as part of Israel in their partition? I'd see that as a dishonest partition.
A lot of the land that was given to Israel was desert. The whole southern half of the region is essentially an uninhabited desert. This is just another common pro Palestinian talking point.
@hellohithere9192 Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
Nobody is in the right. This conflict isn't right Vs wrong, it's grey Vs grey. This is the reason the discourse around it is so asinine - everyone acts like it's simple, when there could hardly be a more complex topic.
@HorizonMakes Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine Zeev Jabotinsky said in 1921: "I don't know of a single example in history where a country was colonised with the courteous consent of the population".
The start-screen is a bit misleading. It shows "Palestinians" leaving Israel. It does not show the hundreds of thousands of Jews that left Jordan. Jordan which was created, exactly like Isreal, on Palestine. Only that Jordan is a muslim country and Israel is a jewish country. And that Jordan expelled all Jews and Israel asked for all Muslims to stay. I put Palestinians in quotation marks because until 1964 Jews were called Palestinians as well and so were Christians. It was Arafat in 1964 who started the campaign of calling only Muslims in Gaza "Palestinians" to create the impression among people that Israelis or Jews are no Palestinians. The whole name "Palestine" would not exist, were it not for the Jews and their Bar Kochba uprising against the Romans. "Palestine" is literally the replacement term for "Israel". At that time the ancestors of the Gazans were not even in the country. It is a rather cheap trick to say "... (Simplified)" and then publish a biased video.
I was actually pretty neutral and want to see the Palestinians and jews (the ones that colonized palestine not the ones who have their ancestors living there) live together. But after watching part one and part two, i understand now how being neutral is just a way to say you know nothing about this conflict. You're doing gods work. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸❤
@@nodamage8011 no the video is highly inaccurate and biased. In part 1 it says the jews just harassed the Arabs to leave whilst a majority bought desert and swamp for highly inflated prices. Also when he talks about the UN partition plan it looks unfair because he doesn't mention that the Palestinians got the fertile land whilst the Jews got swamp and desert. It also seemingly uses the Haganah and Irgun as well as Lehi as interchangeable whilst they were all different and the Haganah was mostly filled with moderates since the Irgun and Lehi were extremists. It also shrugs off Arab attacks on Jewish settlements and even paints the supply couriers as only being military targets at 4:50
@@MrBozny you just point out things he said without refuting them. im getting serious "trust me bro vibes" from you. settlers didnt even deserve an inch of land they should go back home to Europe or elsewhere where they came from israel were like 200 years too late to the colonization party. maybe you could have gotten away with it back then but today we have technology to record every single one of your crimes. Israel has been exposed and nothing you say online will change that
It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
The book you used for this is not only noted for its poor scholarship but also for its really bad translation of quotes (many of which you used) and its taking many things from their contexts. For example many of the Ben Gurion quotes you used are from his journal and aren't known to be actual goals or plans, but rather the private rants of someone. It's honestly sad how complex and convoluted this conflict is that no body does an honest explanation of it.
This video is not unbiased. The autgor never mentions that hundreds of thousands of Arabs migrated to the territory of Palestine during British rule due to economic development from the arrival of Jewish migrants/refugees. It's almost funny how the author always mentions "Jews" as the colonizers and "Palestinians" as the indigenous people. Even though there has always been a permanent Jewish population on the land and Jews are proven to have ancient and genetic ties to the land of Israel. This video is biased in the sense that only the Jewish migrations are mentioned in this video but non of the Arab migrations are mentioned. As well as forgetting to mention that the Arabs were the ones who started the 1947 war by rejecting the 1947 UN partition plan and attacking Jews in Israel. Not the other way around.
Awesome :D Breakfast will have something interesting to watch Thanks for the vid TICA (and Cam, animator) Funny start btw (have not watched the rest of it))
Great for using Ilan Pappé as the only source for this video. Ilan Pappé is known to have a strong anti-zionist narrative and many opinionated and sketchy claims throughout his works. It's not me saying it, but all historians from the "New Historians" group who read the same archived Pappé did.
Dude you can’t just use one book for your source that is so blatantly one sided. I’m not a Zionist, I’m anti Israel, but it’s not possible to get a realistic image of anything if you only read one book about it from one perspective. That’s just bad history
@@Levascus almost every quote in the video is from the same book, and the information he is saying is basically exactly what that book says. Considering that large parts of that book have been outright proven to be not true, it’s a bad sign sign so much of his video uses it as foundational text. Again, I’m not a Zionist, I am pro Palestine, but that doesn’t mean I can’t also recognize bad history when I see it
@@tossboy2643a lot of the sources he used were from israeli officials as well as in that book? i don’t see what you’re trying to argue he used israel sources and quotes from own israeli soldiers..
@ I’m not saying everything in here is wrong. I’m just saying that one of the main sources being used, the only source that he quotes, is a book with a lot of information that has been proven false. When incorrect information is a foundational text of something someone is making, it throws most of the rest of it into question because it shows that they didn’t care enough to fact check those incorrect parts
after seeing this video it suprises me how many cilivians where killed instead of resisting arabs and thats just awful after all it looks like the jews are taking revenge on the arabs instead of the germans
Just like how the naxis took revenge on the Jews instead of the British and the French , it's always the weak who face the consequences of what they didn't do , but was done by the stronger side who never face consequences of their own actions
Sad thing is when the Jews were being prosecuted in Europe for the killing of Jesus it was the Arabs and amazeighs that welcomed them in their homes in Al andalus and Morocco and they were usually not prosecuted in the Middle East There’s a book by David Wasserstein a Jewish historian called “How Islam saved Judaism”
@@Ko_tada thats ignoring the fact that there were some original jews who lived in under ottoman rule in peace. they were treated more or less fairly as they only had to pay a tax versus the prosecution that jews in other european countries faced. zionism changed everything.
@@thesilentpearl8575 but Palestineians still have to pay for Europe's sins (not all European countrys but a large portion of them) why didn't the UN give Germany to the Jews it was already cut in half they might have just gave Jews half of Germany because they were the ones who carried the h0l0caust after all , if displacing innocent civilians because other people suffered then maybe they should have made the people who supported the suffering pay for it and not people form the other side of the planet (collective punishment is still f*ckd but why do Palestineians have to face it ) after all the allies controlled half of Germany and supported the creation of israel and still support it to this day with the same passion , the Soviets controled the other half and also heavily supported the zionist project , why did non of them offer the Jews a piece of Germany ???? Why should Palestineians give up their land because the Jews didn't like Europe anymore ????
@@AbdallahRawaqahleaves out a lot of facts like in his other video a tactic used by Israelis he said basically only forcing people out via harassment while a main strategy was buying up land at highly inflated prices
And also ignores alot of attacks from the Palestinians this is extremely biased. Did the zionists do atrocities? Yes 100% but he is pretending like the Palestinians never did anything wrong
Yeah I’m Korean and I have no bias to either side. I’m just a big history buff. TICA videos has always been biased to essentially the traditionally “adversary” side with Vietnam, Korea and completing glossing over any atrocities the other side did while empathizing on the atrocities that the western powers or western backed ally did without REAL context. This man just put the modern borders of Israel right after 1950s and glossing over multiple wars essentially started by the Arab nation to also ethnically cleanse the Jewish population. lol this isn’t oversimplified. This is a joke at this point. A parody that shouldn’t be taken seriously. I didn’t mind his somewhat bias take in his earlier videos, at times it was completely wrong or taken out of context but it was a refreshing. But this one is straight lazy, misinformation and click bait to get views. This dude needs to do a better job, yeah those flash split second captions don’t count. TICA knows what they’re doing. Entertaining propaganda parody videos at this point. Like almost TICA thinks it gives him clout to just go against western nations. Like a rebelling child. Unbiased videos would probably make this channel a success.
glad you recognize the bias too. they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
Thank u so much for the video TICA, its all accurate as my surviving Palestinian grandma told me and all this is right. Someone had to come eventually and expose those nazis playing victims and show people the truth.
Careful oversimplified hasn't sued you for copying his format lmfao but I love how you cover topics he hasn't yet. It's like you're filling in the gaps. Oversimplified goes on hiatus for years, so I hope he doesn't get butthurt. I'm a fan of both of you guys and I love the way you explain history. Keep on chugging thru brother man!
You should discuss obscure civil conflicts in the South Pacific. I heard about the riots in New Caledonia and got curious which led me down the rabbit hole of theseunrests that are so fascinating because of how obscure they are and how small the Nations involved are. Also interesting to see the way outside forces (generally the US, China, Australia, New Zealand) influenced them. Like the violence in the Solomon Islands with the resulting assistance missions or the Nuku'alofa riots in 2006
Arab Armies were not ragtagged army. Jordanian Army was British -trained -armed and -led. Egypt have decent amount of British Weapons. Israel have weapons from Czechoslovakia not Soviet Union. US put arms embargo on both sides
I think it’s fair to describe this series as a “pro Palestinian” or at least “sympathetic Palestinian” sort of revisionist perspective. There’s much to learn here and this is well laid out but this is a very biased one-sided perspective lacking in context or balance. The sources used are extremely biased and entirely from a pro Palestinian perspective. I did enjoy the videos and learned something but also realize this is one-sided and the Jewish perspective is entirely missing from these videoes. I find this channel tends to want to provide the under-dog perspective on history which is helpful but often out of context and overly sympathetic while leaving out the negatives of that side
No it's just that Palestine don't have a side but rather just want the basic right that a human shouldn't be missing because someone elses profit , Palestine isn't a political stance but a common sense humanitarian stance which would be astonishingly simple when you consider Palestineians and Arabs in general as equal humans beings that have a right to live in their land like every single other people , it's one sided because one side is for humans who understands basic human rights and have even the bare minimum human conscious and empathy , while all other people who take the other side either know very little about the matter because of the heavily propagandited media (that's the vast majority of zionists supporters) and some people who have no empathy to others , view everyone else as inferior , don't view Arabs and Palestineians as humans but rather as a lesser creatures that's born for the purpose of serving them , using the term "human" to describe those creatures is a violation to the meaning of being a human (talking about people like ben shipro and Jordan Peterson) Having no stance on the topic is a betrayal to humanity because silence is a form of compliance , not siding with Palestine not even with words makes person no less of a zionist and a gen0cide denier than the person who support the israeli occupation and defends their war crimes and their crimes against humanity , not opposing gen0cide not even with words is indirectly participating in it
yup,there bias is obvious too . they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
The animation is very on point But the video is extremely biased Most of your quotes come from a single book that put the Jews in the worst light possible An historian or someone that want to do an historical recall of events must distance himself from events and present all sides of the stories
@@talzzz1546 yes And there are several other Israeli historian that would not agree at all with what they had to say It is called libert of opinion and expression something that is worth noting only Israel guarantee in that region of the world to its citizens The quote come from a single book source that is wildly considered heavy on critic with Israel and much more forgiving to Palestinian By presenting it as single source of info you are validating their point of view and silencing everyone else That is not doing a historical research That is doing a profoundly biased video If you want the mantle of historian you cannot do that
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Will there be a part 3?
@@DruckerYTA Not for the time being, maybe at some point
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why are you only making videos depending on only Palestinian propaganda? What about Israel side? They don't count?
It wasn't Soviet Union, it was Czechoslovakia, who gave weapons to Israel.
Animator here, Hope you guys enjoy part 2
Good Job Cam
Excellent animations
Yeah man. thx for your hard work as well
@@brianalexanderfrei1217 Thank you
@@deimos5177 Thank you
@@Cam_AJR nice animation,not much adherence to the facts(12:58 qoute is wrongfully attributed to ben gurion when it was said by ezra danin) and of course omission of many attack by the arab sides against hebrew communities and pogroms against mizrahi communities across the muslim world prior to 1948.
Oh boy, the sequel to the highly anticipated, controversial topic of Israel and Palestine. Seriously though, keep up the good work, because a lot of people avoid this subject quite often. 👍
Moral of the story dont leave the brits with important lands.
But we didn't, they left the land.
@@7stormy334 fair
@KnucklSandwich the Brits I just pointed out that the original comment implied that the British held important lands and that the reason they controlled it caused all the issues which is not entirely true. It certainly didn't help with all the issues.
@@7stormy334After messing everything up!
@KnucklSandwich then who was going to give it to the people who live there. Just keep it as a colony?
oversimplified: "its impossible for an animated history channel to make a video every few months"
Things I care About: *hold my beer*
This guy is not near the quality of oversimplified and has very clear and obvious biases.
"i disagree, so it's not as good" @@MidnightToker2011
@@MidnightToker2011, oh no. TICA is not pro-Western. It's the end of the world, not.
Oversimplified works alone.
Well, Oversimplified is funnier, has better information, more historically accurate, and has less biases.
And people wonder why the Palestinians are pissed off. I hate this world.
what ? its their pronlem bru they lost
@@דמכי11 Fascho
their fault for losing
Well they’ve lost nearly every single major modern war with Israel, so it makes sense.
@@humanfrommars882It isn't even a fair fight and they didn't loss they just don't have soldiers just militia u don't even know what u talking about so stfu and go cry to mommy
Imagine being prosecuted in Europe for so long that you feel the need to do the same to another group that had absolutely nothing to do with it all.
Imagine beliving a biased video of someone that based his entire video of a book written by a radical anti-zionsit that his work was disproved XD
@@shachar9111
How was it disproven when ITS A FACT. So youre saying al-nakba didnt happen??
How emotionless and racist can you be to say that?? You disgust me.
It’s like Liberia. One of those, “we learned it from you dad” kind of things
That'a not the reason. Also they had everything to do with it. Learn about Amin Al Husseini and perescution of Jews in Muslim countries.
@@jeremytheimer7443that doesn't disprove his point.
The pro Israelis are saying that this is one sided and is pro palestine , most of the sources were from jewish diaries and books , even the oppressors wrote about what happend and you say it is one sided ?
You have to use multiple sources of historical material and not assume Ilan Pappe's material to be accurate.
@@callistoscali4344 the point is that Israeli supporters state that the sources were pro Palestinians, which btw most of them were from Zionists as you can see from the video
@@callistoscali4344 Yeah that irritated me too. Just using this one book.
If you did that in an essay, you would get an F.
The problem with this video that it uses Ilan Pappe as a source. Which he has been largely disproven in his work.
@@Wh0re_1234 by whom? don't give me a pro israel source because they disprove anybody who hates them
For the people claiming that this video is biased:
1: this video is not based on a single source. You can check the description
2: Two of the sources are by isreali historians.
Calling Ilan Pepe, the most anti Zionist anti Israeli “historian” an Israeli historian as a pretext for an unbiased view is worse than not using them at all. The narrative presented here is extremely biased and one sided
Yeah that’s not exactly correct. One major example is Ilan Pape that earned the unfortunate nickname of “the Israeli lord haw haw”. Whose book is unfortunately riddled with errors and lacking historical context. Now I don’t want to go rambling on about the politics of Israeli historians as it’s annoying and there are people far more knowledgeable about that subject than me. But what I can tell you for sure is that every single source mentioned is written from the Palestinian narrative, so you’re not seeing the full picture, only half of it.
@@nadavstein4471 He literally took sources from the Virutal Jewish library. He took sources from both sides🙄
@@Ashad636I dunno dude, I would know slot less then you but there was a out 4 times in this entire video where he said that it was based on Israeli testimony, none of it defending or justifying the Israeli actions
the only one saying it is biased are blatantly racist zionists who arent even hiding the fact that they are
You fill the gaps oversimplified leaves for us 😅
Stop suking on OS he’s old news he’s way better not whitewashed no propaganda nothing
@@Shahwezz chill, he isn't suking on OS. he was making clear that OS missed a few things that got cleared out in this video
@@ShahwezzGeez, take it easy… It’s just a history animation
@@Shahwezz This channel is clear propaganda for arabs but ok
@@RomanUrbanek
I mean if you want every content to be anti Arab, and if someone said Arabs were right for a sec then it's propaganda, you need to hold your racism a little
Great video. I like the fact that you're unbiased and you tell it the way it happened without cherry picking.
Right, but he never mentions that hundreds of thousands of Arabs migrated to the territory of Palestine during British rule due to economic development from the arrival of Jewish migrants/refugees.
It's almost funny how he always mentions "Jews" as the colonizers and "Palestinians" as the indigenous people. Even though there has been a permanent Jewish population on the land and Jews are proven to have ancient and genetic ties to the land of Israel.
This is biased in the sense that only Jewish migrations are mentioned in this video but non of the Arab migrations are mentioned.
We need at part 3! There’s still so much more that happened after. You make great videos!
I might like you a little more than Oversimplified, especially after your Vietnam video. Theres humor but you also dont take the tone/horrors of war completely out of it for the sake of humor. Not saying one is better than the other, youre both absolutely phenomenal to watch. Just my opinion
This doesn’t acknowledge that “Palestinian” included EVERYBODY who lived under the mandate (including Jews) until 1964.
Why does it matter? It’s not about race, it’s about the fact that one side is continuing to commit atrocities and another is trying to exist
They were Palestinians in the sense that they lived in that territory (and the region) of Palestine. When most people refer to Palestinians, including in this video, they refer to the Arab ethno-nationalist group residing primarily in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Israel, Jordan and parts of southern Lebanon and Syria. This distinct ethnicity developed before 1964, contrary to what some say. They often cite Golda Meir in making that argument. But the ADL has acknowledged that is mistaken and they believe she misspoke and actually was referring to the idea of Palestinians arguing for their own independent state.
That land has shifted hands for many years, jews do have a legitimate historical claim to the land. You loose the war territory is lost its been that way like forever.. am sure if the Arabs would have won the war with Israel 💯 there would be no jews and Israel would not exist
Yep and it's been like that from the start. If the Palestinias would just lay down their weapons they could actually form a country in Gaza.@@glaceo_o229
@@glaceo_o229 The Arabs have been offered land to peacefully coexist five times. They don't want that. They want to exterminate the Jews... And the Jewish response is to defend themselves. Get used to it.
There is only one thing you miss that during nakba there was a truce for a month with a American meditation in this truce no can buy weapons but Israel buy weapons from USA during this truce
This 'Long Seminar' (starting 31 December 1947) mentioned at 8:40 seems to bear a chilling similarity to the the Wannsee Conference (20 January 1942) chaired by Rheinhard Heydrich to ensure the Final Solution to the Jewish Question, in that it seems to have been chaired by Ben Gurion to ensure the Final Solution to the Palestinian Question. If you were on the receiving end of either you may have found the difference between them largely academic. Both seem insanely inhumane!
I respect how much time you put into your vids. We need more ppl like u and oversimplified
Are we willing to bet that everyone who said „TICA is biased" wouldn't have complained if the video had been pro-Western?
my issue is the fact that things like the expulsion of the Jews of Jerusalem was left out, in the last video he completely got early Zionism wrong (Hertzl was only a figurehead not the ideological leader)
I bet my life on this
No
Exactly these people are only mad that they got their notions and beliefs challenged
Stop lying to yourself that you have an unpopular opinion. I live in a western country and it seems that a majority of people support Palestine (in public, not counting governments). Yes, maybe if this video was pro-western then some people wouldn't be complaining, but some people still would, and much more people (including YOU) who aren't complaining on this video would be complaining.
this whole vid is terrifying why can’t we all just get along 😢
Well decades of Anti-semitism made some racist Jews want protection from racism.
So they did that, by going to a racist colonial state, and wanted their help to do that they do best.. Which is colonialism, on a land they may or may not have a connection to, but they themselves acknowledged the fact that the Arab Palestinians definitely did.
And because of that, antisemites started to support racist Jews to undermine the Native Palestinians.. And they succeeded.
So.. No, we can't get along, simply because the one that causes all the problems.. Basically, the western world, won't allow you to because it goes against their interests.
So if you want to stop this, be defiant towards this system and be vocal with your support for the native Arab Palestinians.
Because when it was Palestine, Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in peace and were coexisting despite Muslim Dominance.
When israel came along, the Christians and the Muslims are being killed daily, but the Jews are helping commit those atrocities. And if any Jews recognise the vile nature of it and don't want to.. They themselves are imprisoned or physically assaulted by the police.
Seriously. There's videos of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews being assaulted by the police. Context does matter but yeah remember, context of Pro-Palestinian Jews exists too
Can you try to live with your aggressor forcefully?
Delete the Quaran which teaches 1 billion people their ultimate goal is to be martyrs for allah (baal) and muhammed the caravan robber and child molestor.
We tried to get along but the quran is by far the greatest obstacle.
Hegemony of the USA. Share ? Not a bite ! They want all for themself´s.
Boycott ✊
We stand with Palestine !
Yes palestine is bad@@superyass13
another W from Oversimplified's heir
I love how Subway is used to represent poison😂
Great Job! 👍 Thanks for putting this 2 part seris out! The short format/cartoons make it more accessible for those who dont want to watch live reports, or dont understand the conflict.
Prior to October 7th many people, including myself knew very little about the situation in Palestine, and even less about the asymmetrical nature of the conflict. Its high time the truth about Israel and their genocidal ways was publicized!
I got a 5 on AP World. Without inspiring videos like yours, it wouldn't have happened!
Nice! Keep it up :)
@@serganta8861 Thanks man!
Got a 4 😭😭
@@notmanciv5016 Good luck next time!
I’m going to cook some popcorn over these comments
Thank you for revealing the truth!
3 weeks ago israeli forces raided jenin (wich had nothing to do with the war by the way) and they went to the place where my mom works at she was at home thank god because they trashed the place computers chairs tables everything just broken oh yeah and they stole the money that was there *how is this self defence?*
Cuz brown
@user-cs2mx4lt3q because Jenin is the city where most terror attacks come from. It's not a "raid".
It's as ridiculous as saying Iraqi forces "raided" mosul
Maybe because israel is at war with terrorists?
So you wanna justify self defence Alr ottomans invasion of kingdom of Jerusalem they had killed all the people of Jews and anyone who remained was turned into a slave or kicked out justify that lil bro
Fair is fair ottomans aka Palestines colonised the lands karma hits hard doesn’t it?
No offense Britain
But you really fumbled over this one
(And i wouldn’t blame you)
2:06 Can you please provide the source to that? googled about Dayr Ayyub and that wasn't mentioned once
I think he meant dayr yasin
Why is this so controversial. The Palestinians were literally colonized. I understand why the Jews were desperate for a safe haven. But Britain was just doing what they were doing best then and Israel continued it.
Some people in the comments are saying this is Palestinian Propaganda
People (pro Israel) just can’t accept that they’re the bad guy. Every argument for their case is bullshit or an exaggeration
@princemonster7575
No, not really. However people saying the opposite ARE part of the JDIF
Britain doing their best? wdym
Arabs are the original colonisers
I’d personally love to see a semi-sequel semi-continuation semi-moreindepthlook of your German Revolution videos looking at the last year or two of the Weimar Republic.
More specifically, the period from January 1933-August 1934 where the Weimar Republic still sort of existed and possibly could have been saved, everything after Hitler became chancellor in January 1933 to Summer of 1934 when the last remaining checks collapsed. There's sort of 5 distinct phases to it, the January-March period where everything was more or less the same it had been under prior degree governments(Hitler was chancellor, Hindenburg ruled by decree, same old), the March-July period where the Reichstag fire and Enabling act gutted what little protections existed and democracy ended (March was the communists and vocal extremists, by July even the moderate conservative parties or other right wing nationalist parties were banned), the August 33-January 34 period where the main players were all generally happy with the direction things were going(Von Papen, Hidenburg, Schleicher, and of course Hilter himself), the period from February 1934-June 1934 where Papen and Hindenburg realized things had gotten out of control and started trying to reign him in, and the final two months where the Weimar Republic went from being gutted to completely destroyed.
Those final few months were utterly chaotic. It was discovered in May Hindenburg was dying. Von Papen's marburg speech intended to reign in Hitler in June failed and lead to him losing his job. The Night of the Long Knives in July killed most of the remaining dangerous opposition, including Kurt Schleicher one of the few remaining moderates with any influence, and most of Von Papen's staff including his right hand leaving him powerless. It also wiped out the SA, the threat of which had been the main thing the Moderate faction was using to weaken Hilter(talking about the violent street thugs causing trouble to the citizens and scaring the army into thinking they were losing their jobs), now suddenly the people viewed the NSDAP as protecting them from the street violence and the Army was suddenly swinging to their side. Then finally in August Hindenburg(the only person with any power outside of the party at this point and the only guy with enough credit to keep the army on their side) died, the positions of Chancellor and President were merged destroying any hope of ousting Hilter, and Von Papen was exiled to Austria under threat of death.
Some say if Hindenburg had lived a little longer and stayed a little sharper, or if the Night of the Long Knives had failed and Röhm was able to cause significant internal issues in the NSDAP, or if Papen hadn't given Goeballs full control of Prussia's police force(thus gutting his own power base and giving the NSDAP full reign over the largest province) they MIGHT just have been able to claw back control.
If you really wanted to you could extend it to August 1932-August 1934. (August 1st 1932 was the first date the NSDAP had the majority seats, that's a sort of power even if they were refused chancellor ship. Goring was also made Leader of the Reichstag as a compromise which was one of the highest positions in the government in August 1932), as long as the latter period isn't neglected.
Oh and during the January 1933 onward period they actually changed the national flag to the old imperial tricolor one, it was only changed to the infamous red one after Hindenburg died
Every time I revisit the history of Palestine, it makes my anti-Israeli spirit stronger.
Funny how a big history animated channel like Oversimplified dodged Israeli occupation even a year of the of ethnic cleansing that made so many experts resurface and discuss the history of Israeli occupation at length! Great job guys! Keep it up.
We’re there actual templars at the siege of jaffa? Since im curious
11:45 i love how we just gloss over the "quite a lot of them were childeren" part of the dead bodies
real smooth.
He states multiple times that children were killed
What r u saying
The first unbiased history gj
Oversimplified but with a better upload schedule
Really brave of you to post this
This whole conflict is basically. "He hit me, so I hit him back" over and over and over. I REALLY hope we can live here like human beings and break the cycle.
Its impossible tho. Slightly possible but mostly impossible.
Each side has a want. And theyre not stopping until they get what they want. And if one side gets their want then the other side doesnt get their want. So its an endless cycle.
yeah. refugees come in, u welcome them. They rob you, you retaliate, some other person defends the robber, and so on.
easy to see it as a endless cycle of violence
but its a cycle of violence started by the colonization of palestine by zionists
Well thank god this is a traceable human conflict and not ancient history, we can easily identify who was the one that started this whole conflict.
@@ammarmohamed3583 my point is that it doesn't matter who hit first. Just stop freaking hitting each other.
We are basically playing here the prisoners dilemma and no one trusts each other anymore.
When you realise it's not the Jews or the Arabs who are the villains here, but it's actually the Europeans:
So true. If Britain never entered the region, this would not happened
british*
leave the rest of us europeans out of it
@@garyborg2345
The British attacked Arabs and other Europeans
The rest of Europeans attacked Jews 💀
the jews where technically still Europeans back then. so racist
@@datredhatif Rome never entered
Wow these were really good videos very informative. The level of shock that I am in right now is unimaginable. They literally just went in the middle of the night and started kicking people out blowing up houses with people in them they didn't care about life. It makes you ashamed to be a human being
There’s a bigger war in the comments of this video then in Palestine rn 😂
I wouldn’t say that
@@qhawegraham826 why
@@qhawegraham826I think he was making a joke
@@qhawegraham826
I would.
Pal did it to iztzzelf.
False balancing .. 10 loud trolls/bots don´t compare with 10.000 viewers (who don´t comment)
Its clear : We stand with Palestine - not with the apartheid pariah state
This series should be mandatory viewing in every school. The lack of education on this issue is the core of complicity in the genocide right now.
The lack of education is the main reason why Arabs go to war and got genocided
Can you make video on Bangladeshi genocide of 1971 in future
Also love your videos
He wouldn't.
@@humanfrommars882 why ?
@@Aniket-fl8qk He should make it. Absolutely no pakistani other than jahils defend or support it. Pakistan carried out a genocide the exact way the zionists carried out a genocide.
As a Bengali, I would like to see that. I feel like it’s a pretty unknown event by a lot of people, and should be given some attention.
Would love to See that. Absolutely no clue about this. 😟
UN guy casually ignoring that the lands he gave arabs were cities primarily populated by the arabs "70% of the land", while the areas granted to israel had much higher jewish concentrations of population. Disingenuous to assume "70% of the land should go to the 70% of the citizens", thereby forcing a population swap based off of the numbers, and not where people were actually located in that moment.
It wasn't just to "make up for the guilt of the Holocaust". Although that was definitely part of it, that's very simplistic.
It had something to also do with actual concentrations of citizens by ethnicity in the British territory in that moment.
Didn't the UN put major urban centers and territories with majority Arab population as part of Israel in their partition? I'd see that as a dishonest partition.
Bruh there were literally 1 mil arabs in the Jewish zone 💀
"Although that was definitely part of it, that's very simplistic."
I mean...the title of the video literally says "(Simplified)".
i mean there were still about 800,000 Palestinians in the land, but a partition city-by-city was too much work for the UN ig
A lot of the land that was given to Israel was desert. The whole southern half of the region is essentially an uninhabited desert. This is just another common pro Palestinian talking point.
Last time I was this early, it was British
I can’t imagine watching this two part series and still thinking Israel is in the right.
Cause its a entirely biased video using little to no unbiased information which seeing the sponsor makes it very laughable
@hellohithere9192 Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
@@hellohithere9192.I guess they're biased too
Nobody is in the right. This conflict isn't right Vs wrong, it's grey Vs grey. This is the reason the discourse around it is so asinine - everyone acts like it's simple, when there could hardly be a more complex topic.
@HorizonMakes Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
Zeev Jabotinsky said in 1921: "I don't know of a single example in history where a country was colonised with the courteous consent of the population".
It's pretty obvious who the "bad guys" are in all this.
This conflict just makes me angry
The start-screen is a bit misleading. It shows "Palestinians" leaving Israel. It does not show the hundreds of thousands of Jews that left Jordan. Jordan which was created, exactly like Isreal, on Palestine. Only that Jordan is a muslim country and Israel is a jewish country. And that Jordan expelled all Jews and Israel asked for all Muslims to stay. I put Palestinians in quotation marks because until 1964 Jews were called Palestinians as well and so were Christians. It was Arafat in 1964 who started the campaign of calling only Muslims in Gaza "Palestinians" to create the impression among people that Israelis or Jews are no Palestinians. The whole name "Palestine" would not exist, were it not for the Jews and their Bar Kochba uprising against the Romans. "Palestine" is literally the replacement term for "Israel". At that time the ancestors of the Gazans were not even in the country.
It is a rather cheap trick to say "... (Simplified)" and then publish a biased video.
Go back to your cave. Free Palestine!!!
Some mossad intelligence units staged attacks in iraq
I was actually pretty neutral and want to see the Palestinians and jews (the ones that colonized palestine not the ones who have their ancestors living there) live together.
But after watching part one and part two, i understand now how being neutral is just a way to say you know nothing about this conflict. You're doing gods work. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸❤
This video is inaccurate.
@@sebastienholmes548 you are misinformed or just straight up lying
@@nodamage8011 no the video is highly inaccurate and biased. In part 1 it says the jews just harassed the Arabs to leave whilst a majority bought desert and swamp for highly inflated prices. Also when he talks about the UN partition plan it looks unfair because he doesn't mention that the Palestinians got the fertile land whilst the Jews got swamp and desert. It also seemingly uses the Haganah and Irgun as well as Lehi as interchangeable whilst they were all different and the Haganah was mostly filled with moderates since the Irgun and Lehi were extremists. It also shrugs off Arab attacks on Jewish settlements and even paints the supply couriers as only being military targets at 4:50
@@MrBozny you just point out things he said without refuting them. im getting serious "trust me bro vibes" from you.
settlers didnt even deserve an inch of land they should go back home to Europe or elsewhere where they came from
israel were like 200 years too late to the colonization party. maybe you could have gotten away with it back then but today we have technology to record every single one of your crimes. Israel has been exposed and nothing you say online will change that
The video is highly inaccurate and not neutral.
20:46 templars? TEMPLARS? I did not see that coming
Please do the Spanish American wars of independence!
YES! And then Pinochet, Castro, and other LA dictators
@@davidbakke9293 Castro was not a dictator. He defended his people against US Aggression. ✨💖🛠💖✨
And also, thank you for showing your lack of depth, referencing only Ilan Peppe!
Was Benni Morris too neutral for you to quote?
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
Me lookin in the comments to see if anyone translated the Spanish: 👁️👁️
7:23 The British guy said he impregnated the other guy’s sister, I think.
"I don't speak English, I'm sorry I do not understand, where is the library, I'm pregnant from your sister"
@@rouwd4wn649 LOL
You know your unbiased when ground news sponsors you
♥
Still there is one side who claims this is antiblablabla
Moral: Never let the british or the un make borders
I’m sure that this comment section will be very calm and peaceful
The book you used for this is not only noted for its poor scholarship but also for its really bad translation of quotes (many of which you used) and its taking many things from their contexts.
For example many of the Ben Gurion quotes you used are from his journal and aren't known to be actual goals or plans, but rather the private rants of someone.
It's honestly sad how complex and convoluted this conflict is that no body does an honest explanation of it.
Thanks so much for filing in for oversimplified. This is also very educative.
Origins of Russia vs Ukraine next?
Loving your videos! I'd love to see a video about The Troubles in Ireland or Cuban Revolution
This video is not unbiased.
The autgor never mentions that hundreds of thousands of Arabs migrated to the territory of Palestine during British rule due to economic development from the arrival of Jewish migrants/refugees.
It's almost funny how the author always mentions "Jews" as the colonizers and "Palestinians" as the indigenous people. Even though there has always been a permanent Jewish population on the land and Jews are proven to have ancient and genetic ties to the land of Israel.
This video is biased in the sense that only the Jewish migrations are mentioned in this video but non of the Arab migrations are mentioned. As well as forgetting to mention that the Arabs were the ones who started the 1947 war by rejecting the 1947 UN partition plan and attacking Jews in Israel. Not the other way around.
a permanent ARAB* Jewish population of ARAB* Jewish descent.
Yes, part 2💪🏼
Awesome :D
Breakfast will have something interesting to watch
Thanks for the vid TICA (and Cam, animator)
Funny start btw (have not watched the rest of it))
do a video about the Lebanon civil war
Will there be a part 3?🍿
Dude made a whole 25-min vid of him not being able to cope 🤣
Great channel! Best of luck broo! ❤️
Great for using Ilan Pappé as the only source for this video. Ilan Pappé is known to have a strong anti-zionist narrative and many opinionated and sketchy claims throughout his works.
It's not me saying it, but all historians from the "New Historians" group who read the same archived Pappé did.
Amazing😊
Part 2 of the Israel/Palestine conflict?! Now that is what I call a great start to my morning!!
A great video for those who claimed that everything started on the 7th of October
I really like your videos and had watched them all. Can you make a video about The Jarkatar Method?
I’m am late to comment but great work on this series and from now on I will do a better job at using your videos as an entry point like you said.
Dude you can’t just use one book for your source that is so blatantly one sided. I’m not a Zionist, I’m anti Israel, but it’s not possible to get a realistic image of anything if you only read one book about it from one perspective. That’s just bad history
The worst part is that a lot of the "history" the author wrote in that book has been debunked
First of all, he used 7 sources, that proves you didnt even read the description and just took this out of your a**
@@Levascus almost every quote in the video is from the same book, and the information he is saying is basically exactly what that book says. Considering that large parts of that book have been outright proven to be not true, it’s a bad sign sign so much of his video uses it as foundational text. Again, I’m not a Zionist, I am pro Palestine, but that doesn’t mean I can’t also recognize bad history when I see it
@@tossboy2643a lot of the sources he used were from israeli officials as well as in that book? i don’t see what you’re trying to argue he used israel sources and quotes from own israeli soldiers..
@ I’m not saying everything in here is wrong. I’m just saying that one of the main sources being used, the only source that he quotes, is a book with a lot of information that has been proven false. When incorrect information is a foundational text of something someone is making, it throws most of the rest of it into question because it shows that they didn’t care enough to fact check those incorrect parts
20:45 they mentioned Bosnia 🎉
Great job on this video! Didn't you used to be over simplified?
Even the UN fails at math 0:59
after seeing this video it suprises me how many cilivians where killed instead of resisting arabs and thats just awful after all it looks like the jews are taking revenge on the arabs instead of the germans
Just like how the naxis took revenge on the Jews instead of the British and the French , it's always the weak who face the consequences of what they didn't do , but was done by the stronger side who never face consequences of their own actions
Sad thing is when the Jews were being prosecuted in Europe for the killing of Jesus it was the Arabs and amazeighs that welcomed them in their homes in Al andalus and Morocco and they were usually not prosecuted in the Middle East
There’s a book by David Wasserstein a Jewish historian called “How Islam saved Judaism”
The Israelis did he just dosen’t focus on it😊
@@Ko_tada thats ignoring the fact that there were some original jews who lived in under ottoman rule in peace. they were treated more or less fairly as they only had to pay a tax versus the prosecution that jews in other european countries faced. zionism changed everything.
@@thesilentpearl8575 but Palestineians still have to pay for Europe's sins (not all European countrys but a large portion of them) why didn't the UN give Germany to the Jews it was already cut in half they might have just gave Jews half of Germany because they were the ones who carried the h0l0caust after all , if displacing innocent civilians because other people suffered then maybe they should have made the people who supported the suffering pay for it and not people form the other side of the planet (collective punishment is still f*ckd but why do Palestineians have to face it ) after all the allies controlled half of Germany and supported the creation of israel and still support it to this day with the same passion , the Soviets controled the other half and also heavily supported the zionist project , why did non of them offer the Jews a piece of Germany ????
Why should Palestineians give up their land because the Jews didn't like Europe anymore ????
Totally objective video and totally objective sources
What is objective about facts?
@@AbdallahRawaqahleaves out a lot of facts like in his other video a tactic used by Israelis he said basically only forcing people out via harassment while a main strategy was buying up land at highly inflated prices
And also ignores alot of attacks from the Palestinians this is extremely biased. Did the zionists do atrocities? Yes 100% but he is pretending like the Palestinians never did anything wrong
@@MrBoznythey were defending themselves tho
@@Ghaith-pg1js who were?
Thank you for such great work ! been watching all your videos lately, great work and good luck for the rest !
Great video. I have a request for the next video to be on the Philippine American War.
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
7. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
8. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
9. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
10. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
11. Haifa Massacre 1948
12. Tantura Massacre 1948
13. Jaffa Massacre 1948
14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
16. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
17. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
18. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
19. Jenin Refugee Camp Massacre 2002
20. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
21. Gaza Massacre 2012
22. Gaza Massacre 2014
23. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
24. Gaza Massacre 2021
25. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing
Yeah I’m Korean and I have no bias to either side. I’m just a big history buff. TICA videos has always been biased to essentially the traditionally “adversary” side with Vietnam, Korea and completing glossing over any atrocities the other side did while empathizing on the atrocities that the western powers or western backed ally did without REAL context.
This man just put the modern borders of Israel right after 1950s and glossing over multiple wars essentially started by the Arab nation to also ethnically cleanse the Jewish population.
lol this isn’t oversimplified. This is a joke at this point. A parody that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I didn’t mind his somewhat bias take in his earlier videos, at times it was completely wrong or taken out of context but it was a refreshing.
But this one is straight lazy, misinformation and click bait to get views.
This dude needs to do a better job, yeah those flash split second captions don’t count. TICA knows what they’re doing.
Entertaining propaganda parody videos at this point. Like almost TICA thinks it gives him clout to just go against western nations. Like a rebelling child.
Unbiased videos would probably make this channel a success.
glad you recognize the bias too. they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
This video is clearly very pro-Israel.
@@luvitluvitbabyhow?
@@humanfrommars882 lol he’s being sarcastic
@@lLooN3yoh aight mb
Thank u so much for the video TICA, its all accurate as my surviving Palestinian grandma told me and all this is right. Someone had to come eventually and expose those nazis playing victims and show people the truth.
It isn’t accurate
@@ticketthedog3781obvs you know more than a survivor
@@ticketthedog3781 how? This dude literally said his Palestinen grandma told him the same thing
@@ticketthedog3781 1st most of what he said isnt made up since its said by ben-gurion himself + whats not accurate for u ill answer anything u mention
Do we get part 3 or is this series done now?
For what? That he will twist what happened in Oslo agreements?
Wheres part 3?
Careful oversimplified hasn't sued you for copying his format lmfao but I love how you cover topics he hasn't yet. It's like you're filling in the gaps. Oversimplified goes on hiatus for years, so I hope he doesn't get butthurt. I'm a fan of both of you guys and I love the way you explain history. Keep on chugging thru brother man!
Then please consider joining the discord!
@@leopardknowledge.1430 I didn't even know they had one yet 😭
very informative and eye openning, kerep going!
تحية لكل احرار العالم ولصاحب القناة الذي قدم لنا محتوي حقيقي يدعم قضيه شعب مظلوم
So all your sources in your description are biased and you just expect us to believe this?
Even Benny the Zionist historian agree with these points smarty-pants
@@ehabl8816who is Benny? Is he the most awarded historian that his opinion is righteous?
Sorry, broski, not every source that doesn't agree with your biased world view is biased. Self reflect
@@ehabl8816you haven’t read Benny Morris right?
@@knoob8109 he does admit to all of these things but he doesn't see them as wrong but necessary that's why he is a filthy Zionist
You should discuss obscure civil conflicts in the South Pacific. I heard about the riots in New Caledonia and got curious which led me down the rabbit hole of theseunrests that are so fascinating because of how obscure they are and how small the Nations involved are. Also interesting to see the way outside forces (generally the US, China, Australia, New Zealand) influenced them. Like the violence in the Solomon Islands with the resulting assistance missions or the Nuku'alofa riots in 2006
"but, do you condemn what Hamas did on October 7th?" - Piers
I Appreciate you. You earned this sub.
Truth is 56,47% of the land given to the Jewish state, most of it in the Neguev désert, Not 70%
One of the best videos on the matter ... thank u for the hard work
He was gonna use Subway to poison the well?
Should've gone with a bag from Taco Bell! 😂
Arab Armies were not ragtagged army. Jordanian Army was British -trained -armed and -led. Egypt have decent amount of British Weapons. Israel have weapons from Czechoslovakia not Soviet Union. US put arms embargo on both sides
I think it’s fair to describe this series as a “pro Palestinian” or at least “sympathetic Palestinian” sort of revisionist perspective. There’s much to learn here and this is well laid out but this is a very biased one-sided perspective lacking in context or balance. The sources used are extremely biased and entirely from a pro Palestinian perspective. I did enjoy the videos and learned something but also realize this is one-sided and the Jewish perspective is entirely missing from these videoes. I find this channel tends to want to provide the under-dog perspective on history which is helpful but often out of context and overly sympathetic while leaving out the negatives of that side
Most of the sources he stated are from Zionist diaries and books how is it one sided ?
@@averagenoob8867Illan Pappe is just one source.
What is left out, tell me
No it's just that Palestine don't have a side but rather just want the basic right that a human shouldn't be missing because someone elses profit , Palestine isn't a political stance but a common sense humanitarian stance which would be astonishingly simple when you consider Palestineians and Arabs in general as equal humans beings that have a right to live in their land like every single other people , it's one sided because one side is for humans who understands basic human rights and have even the bare minimum human conscious and empathy , while all other people who take the other side either know very little about the matter because of the heavily propagandited media (that's the vast majority of zionists supporters) and some people who have no empathy to others , view everyone else as inferior , don't view Arabs and Palestineians as humans but rather as a lesser creatures that's born for the purpose of serving them , using the term "human" to describe those creatures is a violation to the meaning of being a human (talking about people like ben shipro and Jordan Peterson)
Having no stance on the topic is a betrayal to humanity because silence is a form of compliance , not siding with Palestine not even with words makes person no less of a zionist and a gen0cide denier than the person who support the israeli occupation and defends their war crimes and their crimes against humanity , not opposing gen0cide not even with words is indirectly participating in it
yup,there bias is obvious too . they use the unreliable source of illan pappe who ,just for example , in 12:58 attributed a qoute by ezra danin to ben gurion... in the previous episode he said the 1929 pogroms ended up with 200 arabs dead without mentionning most of them died by british police while attacking hebrew civilians .he doesnt mention how the "unarmed arabs" caused from 1936 to 1939 292 security personnel and 400 hebrew deaths, he left out in this video 1947 mamila attack before the haifa oil refinery massacre,he left out the fact the brits enabled the neighboring arab countries to create modern armies while raiding hebrew militas military cahces till 1948(And in the case of jordan-they even had a british general known as jhon bagot), he leaves out the expulsion of hebron gaza and nablus hebrew community in 1929 and silwan and pekiein communities in 1938. he leaves out pogroms across the muslim world against the mizrahi communities from 1903 to 1948,he left out the fact the head of the arab higher committee- haj amin el husseini-was a nazi ss officer and brought here bosnian mujahideen units from his disbanded ss units,he left out fabuary 1948 ben yehuda street bombing and jerusalem post building bombing,he left out deir yassin stopped its neutrality before the attack on it and that 5 hebrew militants died catching the "unarmed" village,he left out all the druze arab villages and abu gush who didnt participate in any violent attack against us were not harmed. why ? because he has an agenda.
The animation is very on point
But the video is extremely biased
Most of your quotes come from a single book that put the Jews in the worst light possible
An historian or someone that want to do an historical recall of events must distance himself from events and present all sides of the stories
2 of sources are israeli historians
@@talzzz1546 yes
And there are several other Israeli historian that would not agree at all with what they had to say
It is called libert of opinion and expression something that is worth noting only Israel guarantee in that region of the world to its citizens
The quote come from a single book source that is wildly considered heavy on critic with Israel and much more forgiving to Palestinian
By presenting it as single source of info you are validating their point of view and silencing everyone else
That is not doing a historical research
That is doing a profoundly biased video
If you want the mantle of historian you cannot do that
@@talzzz1546yes there are some Israelis who side with Palestine. Just like how there are some Palestinians who side with Israel
this is fr about to become your alternative dose of simple history if his upload schedule remains like this