Brief History of Israel-Palestine Conflict | Norman Finkelstein Teach-In on Gaza, Israel, and Hamas
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Political scientist and bestselling author Norman Finkelstein conducted a teach-in on the current situation in Gaza and Israel at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, via Zoom, on Tuesday October 17th, 2023.
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Goddamn! I respect Dr. Finkelstein!! I learned so much in this 40 minutes and feel like i finally have a history in a nutshell which I was looking for. I have taken notes too and will research all the things he mentioned so I can better understand this history.
Norman is a true gem of a human being
I pray for you daily
Love you with all my heart
Thank you for standing up for truth and dedicating your life to that
Your parents will be proud of you
God bless you
lol. he's a t. error sympathizer
Decent people don't describe "scholars" who speak at conventions of Holocaust deniers as "a gem of a human being," dear heart. You too can rejoin the rank of decent human beings.
Thank you Norman for dedicating your life to this work. I know you said in a recent video that you became pessimistic about your work and starting thinking that there was no solution to this tragic situation. I am so glad that you found the inspiration and strength to share your expertise on this topic and to advocate for the lives of these long oppressed people. In my eyes you are one of the greatest heroes in America and I am so grateful that we can continue learning from you.
He's an ignorant hack. He leaves out all context for a reason. Because it would destroy his argument.
Steven Pinker has shown empirically that all our progress in the West comes from secular liberal democracy. Finkelstein has shown to want to stand against everything that any secular liberal democracy stands for and this is why we seek to debate those who support him - just got debunked on Atheist Republic - where are his supposed followers to defend his support for theocracies and jihadists?
I had a basic understanding. I will do more reading. Norman is one of very few I trust for the truth.
God bless and protect you.
I took a few classes with Professor Norman Finkelstein at DePaul University in Chicago around 2006-2008 and learned a lot about this conflict then. At the time, he was really the only high profile Jewish academic who openly criticized Israel and supported the Palestinians. He lost his teaching career because of his views. A real mensch.
What major? Political science?
Noam Chomesky
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I think the Major was "how to fool people and to make them think you're telling the truth"
@@spacecan1Great job on challenging him! Love your utilization of sources and evidence, as professor Finkelstein does in every explanation.
As a Palestinian I grew up experiencing most of this while watching my parents, grandparents, aunts uncles and so forth deal with such unjust experience. Despite all this I don’t remember growing up watching any of my extended family having hatred for Jews (but for Zionism or Israel) From theological perspective I think we Palestinian consider religion is the core essence of our land Palestine
This man is an international treasure and just so good at explaining and painting a clear picture. I’ve read his works and he is resolute about sticking to reporting the facts from PRIMARY sources. I aspire to do research as thorough as Norman’s for any subject I am interested in. He definitely sets the bar or gold standard for investigative research and his writing style is great too!
all is his sick imagination sadly
@@georgka74Sure, for Zionist colonists like you? Of course
@@georgka74- I know the truth hurts.
Absolutely! He's not only an inspiration as a morally righteous human and a model for sacrifice for a just cause, but also an inspiration as a thorough and dedicated scholar
@@georgka74here comes the bitter zionist
This video should be shared on all social media
Thank you so much for summarizing a conflict of over 6 decades so succinctly.
A true Jew who by doing the right thing, above all honours his parents as victims of the holocaust.
THANK YOU MR FINKELSTEIN FOR STADING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY... MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY 🙏🏼
Whenever Finkelstein gives his brief history of the area around 1948, he always misses out the same information. I’ve seen this multiple times, and it’s frustrating once you know how pertinent that information is. Whenever he says there are things “he’s not going to go into”, I began to realise that the majority of the time it was because that information didn’t support a one-sided narrative.
He’ll say the Jewish partition was 56% of the total area, despite the Arabs being a larger population, but will neglect to mention that over half of the Jewish allocation was the Negev desert, which other than sparse migratory tribes of Bedouins, was uninhabited, and considered uninhabitable for permanent settlement.
He’ll also leave out the fact that the majority of of the area was not owned by either the Jews or the Arabs, but by the state. It also wasn’t a country, but a region of the Ottoman Empire, and then the British. It was to be split in the partition so that everyone gained.
To further compound it, he’ll neglect to mention that the proposed Arab state was to be 99% Arab-Palestinian, whereas the Jewish state was only to be 55% Jewish, with the rest of the population comprised of Arabs and Christians.
Indeed, today Israel is only 73% Jewish with the rest being Arabs and minority groups. Why did the Jewish percentage go up? Well, it’s something else Finkelstein doesn’t like to talk about.
He’ll mention how the 1948 war resulted in the displacement of 700k Palestinian Arabs, but he won’t mention the almost 900k Jews who were expelled from Muslims countries where they had lived for thousands of years, longer than the Muslims. Most of those refugees fled to Israel and expanded the Jewish percentage. He won't mention the mass property confiscations they suffered, which included both considerable financial assets and land. Indeed, the land they lost was approximately 60'000 square miles. By contrast, Israel is about 9'000 square miles. That ethnic cleansing resulted in their being less than ten thousand Jews in the Arab world today.
He doesn’t mention that, because one of the sticks to beat Israel with is the notion that they’re European Jews not native to the area who merely emigrated to the area, as that is a way to delegitimise their presence in the area. But when you realise the Israeli Jewish population is comprised of European Jews, Palestinian-Jews who were there all along, and Jews that had lived generally in the middle-east unbroken for thousands of years, that narrative starts to collapse, and so he leaves it out.
He also won’t mention that one of the driving factors for the Palestinian-Arab displacement was several Arab countries coming into the conflict with the intention to eradicate the nascent Israel in an openly declared war of genocide, and they advised the Palestinian-Arabs to vacate the area until the slaughter was complete, at which time they could return. Whilst a lot of Palestinian-Arabs joined the invading Arab armies to destroy Israel, the rest stepped aside and waited for the Jews to be eradicated hoping they could take the land afterwards.
Israel won, and set her borders with agreement from Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, whilst Jordan annexed the West Bank and Egypt occupied Gaza.
Then he’ll say the Arabs turned down the partition because they felt it unfair on two points, but that’s not actually fully true. Before stating that as their reason, they made it clear they would accept no scenario which ended with the creation of a Jewish state, no matter how small. They wanted the entire area, and would only suffer the existence of Jews if they were of lesser status, or Dhimmi, which the Jews had been relegated to throughout the Muslim world.
There’s absolutely wrongdoing on both sides as one would expect in a conflict that's been going on for so long, but Finkelstein will only present Israel’s wrongs, whilst downplaying the actions of the other side, and likes to leave out all of the justification for Israel’s actions. I used to see this guy as an authoritative yet unbiased voice on the conflict, but the more I read into it, the more I realised that actually, he was deceiving me. That was before I discovered his pro-terrorist comments, and his comments about the 7th attack by Hamas warming ever fiber of his being.
What people would agree to give half their country to a population half there size 95+% of which are first generation immigrants? Why should the Palestinians pay the price for European crimes?
“There's room for everyone at the rendezvous of victory.” - Aimé Césaire
Jews are original inhabitants of JUDEA. Jews didn’t come from outer space. They’re from Judea, which is an ancient kingdom.
The truth is out there.... Why do people not seek the truth before passing judgement and deciding to support Israel blindfolded? Thank you for your honesty and knowledge Professor
Un homme d'1 bonté exceptionnel..
Most people,are sheep and go,with the flock. They don’t have time, intelligence, and many times it’s not in their self interest
Great man Norman Finkelstein! God bless you! 👍
did he sneeze?
Dear brother
My name is Alia Mohammed Jaludi
I live in New Jersey. My roots are Jordanian and Palestinian.
I need to thank you for your voice and your great knowledge for being brave to speak the truth through oceans of hard work, pure dedication and wisdom.
Speaking the truth no matter the cost is not easy and you handled this with grace and great dignity.
I praise your courage and your love for life and justice.
You have helped me to be able to cope better and with insight from a person who knows very well the other side when it comes to the truth about Palestine.
In my eyes you are soldier of truth and of moral high ground,brave to stand tall even though evil and blind,stone hearts attack with falsehood and plain arrogance matched with ignorance.
May you be blessed and protected with the righteous path.
۞ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ كُونُوا۟ قَوَّٰمِينَ بِٱلْقِسْطِ شُهَدَآءَ لِلَّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ ٱلْوَٰلِدَيْنِ وَٱلْأَقْرَبِينَ ۚ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقِيرًۭا فَٱللَّهُ أَوْلَىٰ بِهِمَا ۖ فَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا۟ ٱلْهَوَىٰٓ أَن تَعْدِلُوا۟ ۚ وَإِن تَلْوُۥٓا۟ أَوْ تُعْرِضُوا۟ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًۭا ١٣٥
O believers! Stand firm for justice as witnesses for Allah even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or close relatives. Be they rich or poor, Allah is best to ensure their interests. So do not let your desires cause you to deviate ˹from justice˺. If you distort the testimony or refuse to give it, then ˹know that˺ Allah is certainly All-Aware of what you do.
Your sister,
Alia
Great tell your people to stop blowing shit up
UN181:
Israel: 600,000 people/ 56% land
Palestine: 1,300,000 people/ 44% land
It doesn’t make any sense at all .
Israeli math.
Glad so glad to see this man who has devoted so much of his life here now to inform everyone of all the knowledge she holds. Anyone who misses these videos of Norman Finkelstein is really losing out on an absolute wealth of factual history.
This video should be watched by everyone. Thank you Norman for always speaking the truth. We learn a lot from your videos.
If you would like people to see it, you should share the link to it all over social media and everywhere you can, as well as to all the contacts you may know who can receive the link that also explains that the video is informative and educational. Without an effort like that by you and others told to do the same along with the link, it is unlikely to be seen by as many people.
Thank you. I will take your advice. I will even try to promote it as a paid ad (if allowed, although I doubt it)@@aFoxyFox.
Steven Pinker has shown empirically that all our progress in the West comes from secular liberal democracy. Finkelstein has shown to want to stand against everything that any secular liberal democracy stands for and this is why we seek to debate those who support him - just got debunked on Atheist Republic - where are his supposed followers to defend his support for theocracies and jihadists?
No one gives me more hope in humanity than Dr. Finklestein
That’s a joke…you might not realize it. ..But all Norman has done is cause more innocent people to die. His talks have lead to resistance within Gaza…causing innocent people to die. I think he knows that and truly wants all the Palestinians dead.
What a wonderful man! Love listening and learning from you!
Norman Finkelstein: you are THE MAN. 😊☝🏾
Thank you sooooo much for your tremendous perseverance; incredible scholarship,; tenacious integrity, and your profound humanity.
You're a hero !
Prof Norman FINKELSTEIN deserves and well earned Nobel Peace award for his decades long work on behalf of Palestinians. Who is going to start a Petition!
P.s.
I do not work for Prof. FINKELSTEIN, found out about Him only via videos in November 2023; i am not a Palestinian. Blessings to the Prof.
P.p.s. Prof CHOMSKY qualifies to nominate Prof FINKELSTEIN for NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. I pray Prof CHOMSKY will be willing to do this great thing for Humanity.
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou Norman. You are a gem in these times of madness, evil and lies.
lol norman is terrible
This is by far and away the best explanation for lay people on the history of this conflict. There is so much hyperbole and drama in the explanations I have seen. It's impossible to have zero bias, but this is as close as you are going to get on a topic like this. Thanks for posting this and thanks to Dr Finkelstein for taking the time to explain this in a way that almost everyone can understand!
Thank you, professor Finkelstein! 🇵🇸🇧🇷🇵🇸✌️
Thank you dr. Finkelstein. Your lessons are invaluable for people to make informed opinions of the current situation. High time our government do a mandatory training on this topic as an essential qualification for their jobs.
I love listening to Norman debate. He's so deliberate with every word because every word is based on immense study, thoughtfulness and life experience. Plus he's from Brooklyn which you can hear even if he never said where he was from.
An asset for this issue -explains the issue with truth and clarity. Thank you for all your hard work. It is now coming to fruition as the world is waking up! Keep going Norman
What a beautiful soul and mind. Thank you professor Norman.
Thank you for educating us about history and truth.
When talking about history you
do NOT chose your departing point arbitrarily. You start at the beginning. You do not choose only the facts that supports your version and skip facts that disprove it by just saying, “I’m not going to go into that now”
💯. There's nothing arbitrary about choosing that as your starting point. It completely negates the fact that Jews are indigenous to the land and had been there for long before the second world war
@@nettalavon9262not the European ones
of course you do when you are time limited depending on the medium. You are free to do your own research. It would take 50 years to discuss every aspect.
don't feed the arbitrary trolls
@@DangreenwatsonIn the beginning Yahweh created the world....Is that far back enough for you?
I salute a man of principles.
Whoa! Got off to a terrible (arbitrary) start by describing the population of the area as ... "jews or zionist" and "arabs or palestinians". How about the mention of muslims or backing up in time with a pivotal, brief mention of the Treaty of Sevres or the role of the UN in 1945. How convenient to launch this talk in 1947. The content is not factual and he cherry picks what is conveniently left in or out of this narrative. This conflict is not about land. I repeat, not about land. Finkelstein leap frogs over the crucial issue: the teachings of Islam. The conflict began, around 632AD when regional/middle eastern antisemitism began. The whole point of this religion is the extermination of the Jew. Islam has pushed out "refugee" Jews and Christians in all Muslim countries for centuries and the very notion of an Israel situated within conquered muslim/Ottoman land is intolerable. There is no 2 state solution. Israel tried that experiment in 2005 when it withdrew from Gaza. From that point on, Hamas did nothing but build rockets, excavate tunnels and indoctrinate human shields with the funds gifted them by the UN, with one purpose: extermination of the Jews. Please read more on this subject matter before believing anything contained in these 42 minutes.
nice try
This is pure nonsense. There were Jewish people all over the Middle East that lived alongside Moslems. I live in Spain and Jews and Muslims lived together for over 600 years until the were expelled by the Catholic Kings. Christian anti semitism begins in the Gospel of Matthew and culminated in the Holocaust and for your information Hitler was not a Moslem
You are a true hero, Dr. Finkelstein. You’re incredible on all levels. Thank you for your knowledge and humanity
Here here
Obviously by your picture tag, you are a supporter of the Palestinian state. I'm curious (and I hope you don't mind me asking), if you could go to the UN with a general plan to resolve this conflict, what would it be?
I welcome anyone else who sees the above question to chime in as well!
Please, go ahead and answer.
Your question alone reveals that you know little about the subject
Bless this incredible man, a man of peace and intellect
Isreal's reply: yeah yeah, it's all anti-Semitism.
Evangelical response: this is God's plan. Let's support God
Europe's response: calm down everyone.
Canada's response: Firstly, what's Gaza's gender?
I'm with Norman on this one.
I’m with Israel
@@TheIsraelProphetessYou're with ethnic cleansing and apartheid and this horrible history of abuse and oppression that Dr Finkelstein tells us here (not to mention the latest recent killing of thousands of innocent people)? Why?
They actually labeling him as an antisemite
@@Chef2667 Can you give more detail? Who is labeling him antisemite? It doesn't make too much sense to apply this label to a Jew who is the son of Holocaust survivors.
If you don't support the Humanitarian Crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine by Israel well you too are an anti-Semite.
31:29 As a lawyer, Hillary reminds me of that client that keeps snitching on himself, just more insufferable. Good thing she's in politics, otherwise she'd be in prison.
You have her mixed up with Trump
I will forever respect you Doctor
Amazing. Thank you for explaining Zionazism
I've been surfing the internet for weeks for an unbiased summary of the Israel/ palestine conflict and so glad I found this. Finkelstein has his biases, but at least he doesn't clutter the issue with untruths.
He's incredibly biassed though. He omits a lot of the Israeli side and downplays any wrongdoing on Palestine's behalf.
Personaly for me(east european) the fact that he symphatizes with Putin and justifies Ukraine invasion takes away all his credibility.
This isn't balanced, not even close. He leaves out all meaningful context and the majority of the history. He's a charlatan or just naive, im not sure which but here. All at YT.
A. Rand Institute -:
Did Israel steal Palestinian land
The Left's Long war On Israel
Civilization vs Barbarism: Ongoing Analysis of Hamas' War On Israel
The Perpetual War on Israel: 1948-2923
Making Sense of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict
J-T-V:
Why wont Jews allow themselves to be killed?
@@psmorgan2542why would he be biased. His whole family suffered in Holocaust. They were all in concentration camp. His mother taught him to fight oppression as much as he can. Her mother, a Holocaust survivor, was proud that he fought of oppressed Palestinian people.
People like Netanyahu are selling the sufferings of who died and suffered in Holocaust for their gains. His book ‘the Holocaust Industry’ is a must read who really wants to know how Zionist sell the sufferings of Jewish people for their gains.
Sometimes a bias is based on truth . This is a Jewish man whose parents went through the holocaust.
He’s just giving us the unvarnished truth.
Thank you Mr.Finkelstein for always siding with the opressed and just. This video is a great summary of the conflict, incredibly truthful and an amazing portrayal of a colonialist history.
"Always siding with the oppressed" otherwise known as "siding with the underdog" is an infantile perspective. And Fink is an infantile and disingenuous charlatan. He hides behind abstract legalism, which does not determine moral right or wrong. He leaves out all actual context. Because if he provided it, he would have no argument.
. These will provide further context. To understand the full context that Fink leaves out. All at YT.
A. Rand Institute -:
Did Israel steal Palestinian land
The Left's Long war On Israel
Civilization vs Barbarism: Ongoing Analysis of Hamas' War On Israel
The Perpetual War on Israel: 1948-2923
Making Sense of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict
J-T-V:
Why wont Jews allow themselves to be killed?
There is nothing more pro peace than education and educated minds. Thank you for educating us dear Dr. Finkelstein.
Dispicable! Fiction. He's leaves out whatever doesn't suit his narrative. The Arab Legion launched a War against Israel in '48,the Palestinians left because they thought they'd drive the Jews into the sea. Guess what, they Lost!
Agree on your statement.I have noticed that those educated and not religiously indoctrinated palestinians have no or much less problems regarding Israel.
The British colonialism normally treated the native inhabitants unfairly.🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
THANK YOU MR FINKELSTEIN FOR STADING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY... MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
Amen
Doesn’t really seem like he takes into account the whole of the historical story by glossing over key historical moments like the British mandate and the history of Judea and Canaan
Which he literally says up upfront. Duh
It’s not fucking complicated. Israel is CURRENTLY indiscriminately bombing whole families, children. It has the capability to minimize loss of civilian life but chooses instead to commit crimes against humanity. It’s really not that hard to understand where this guy is coming from. Fuck the history.
1.5x speed. You'll thank me later 😉
Bless you .. a great mentality
Brilliance
EVERYONE in the US needs to hear this
They don’t want to hear the truth, lol
@@humanbeing5300 Norman isn't much truth.
@spacecan1 rejoinder requested.
For people who want to listen to this lecture but deem it to be slow paced, please put the speed of the video at 1.25x. It's worth it, trust me.
I'm at 2 x, it's great :)
Thank you, Mr. Finkelstein.
More power to this man. We need more people like him. God bless you Professor Finkelstein.
Prof Norman FINKELSTEIN deserves and well earned Nobel Peace award for his decades long work on behalf of Palestinians. Who is going to start a Petition!
P.s.
I do not work for Prof. FINKELSTEIN, found out about Him only via videos in November 2023; i am not a Palestinian.
Thanks for this information
thank you dr.finkelstein. you are one of the greatest scholar ive ever seen, its very dissapointing that you got cencored all these years. i hope podcast host's give platform to experts such as you on this matter so we can overcome this conflict and move toward peace.. my respect to you sir.
Finkelstein leaves out the awkward facts.
Such as that the Palestinian refugees left Israel in the midst of the Arab attempt to massacre the Jews, which began immediately after the UN passed the partition resolution in November 1947. The Jewish leadership offered to work with Arabs for the betterment of all and the Arabs launched immediate terror attacks and a general strike.
Or the fact that Israel pulled all troops out of Gaza and evicted all Israeli civilians, making it 100% Arab in 2005, and offered to help in any way, and this was answered by a huge increase in rockets fired from Gaza into Israel (almost 1000 in 2006) and constant terrorist attacks, so that Israel and Egypt HAD TO establish a blockade to keep Iranian arms out.
Or that nobody ever talked about a Palestinian nation before the Arab League invented the PLO and the Palestinian People in 1964, as part of the Arab attempt to alter the public perception of the Middle East conflict from many Arab states bullying Israel to Israel bullying the poor Palestinians.
Or the fact that when Israel attempted to negotiate the creation of an Arab ('Palestinian') state in 2000, Arafat responded by launching the second intifada which was a campaign of constant terrorist attacks.
Or the fact that the leaders of the Arabs in the Palestine Mandate Territory were allies of Hitler in World War II.
Or...I could go on and on and on. He just spins half truths and lies geared to arousing emotion and in fact playing on people's preconceived notions and prejudices. And he uses his parents SUPPOSED Holocaust experiences (about which we have only his word) to falsely give himself credibility.
It's astounding how misleading and suggestive your 'points' are. I would like to begin to debunk but it most certainly is a lost cause. All I can say to the readers is: Listen to Gideon Levy, Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe, Rashid Khalidi, Reverend Munther, Nurit Peled-Elnahan, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, Nick Fuentes, Avi Schlaim, Liam Neeson, Francesca Albanese, Yanis Varoufakis, Chris Hedges, Owen Jones, Gabor Maté or Richard Methurst. Just pick a random name and go listen to people who don't just spout zionist settler hasbara like this guy above.
@johnmarat8981 eww, are you an apartheid defender? A racist sympathizer? A genocide denier? A terrorist state advocater?
if Jewish people would just be able to listen to you and acknowledge the facts and legal implications! But they are not and possibly never will. Why? I think we could call this false "entitlement" based n the again - false - assumption of inborn superiority going back to being the chosen people of God. With the coming of Christ and the Jews putting him to death, they lost the privilege of being the 'Chosen people. To see this for a traditional Jew living in Israel with all his comforts and rights, is simply impossible and calls for an intervention by the international authorities....
Finkelstein is cool, calm and 100% correct ❤
God bless this man, i adore him so much
Where is the question and answers segment?
Thanks Norman, good info.
I just want to say thank you for presenting facts throughout the whole video. There wasnt' any bias confirmation or opinions in this video. A very clear, apparent educational video highly recommend others to watch to get a true understanding of what's going on in our world.
This was very informative and clear
You skipped 1973
A very one sided review of history and conflict. Alone the statement that PLO accepted the resolution 242… when was this ? Twenty years after its was voted for and another big war of the surrounding Arab nations against Israel was lost (btw. No word about the Jom Kippur war in his „brief“ review) whereas Israel and in contrafiction of what Finkelstwin is saying, Israel actually accepted on May 1. 1968 the resolution and we’re starting to go into negotiations with each Arab state.
Injustice, perceived or real, inevitably results in conflicts. The prevailing colonizers attitude among Westerners, before and right after the creation of the state of Israel, was that Arabs represented a lesser than humanins, and thus have less rights if at all. The facts then and now should have lead to a totally different outcome, but as always the British knew better and they managed to create this conflict! As long as there is no justice, there will not be peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis.
Hard to listen to this. It's informative ... and very upsetting!
Thank you Dr Finkelstein.
This man needs to get on Piers Morgan's show!!
They're too cowardly to dare feature such a knowledgable and unapologetically righteous person.
Thank you for educating us idiots. So very grateful!!
Everyone needs to see this! 💔🇵🇸
Protect this man at all costs!
Where is Part II? This was pposted three weeks ago, so there must be one somewhere.
Free 🍉
i googled it real quick and United Nations Resolution 242 had nothing to do with Palestine and palatine never accepted it. so i'm gonna assume everything else you said was a lie as well
God bless you Norman, it's absolutely brillant, thank you so much.❤
Why do say indigenous Palestine and Jewish settlers when you state there was two communities in the region? How did you identify the indigenous tribe? Why do you quote UN as the authority on what was legal? Why did you not present the Jewish side, ie their claim to Palestine, when you presented the Arab side? The Arabs lost the Arab-Israeli war so, yes they became refugees. If the Jews lost they would be dead. That's war, why is this unjust? Israel after the Arab-Israel war had no obligation to abide by UN resolution. Why do you state UN as absolute authority? Israel won the rights to Palestine by warfare like every other F-ing country. The Arabs should've negotiated but they warred instead.
a lot of people came to this place where they had no ancestry before, whereas the other group of people were there before (and to boot, have a demonstrated genetic connection with whatever ancient population was present that people like to bring up to say that israelis are indigenous). i think it’s very simple in that sense to talk about indigeneity.
“Israel won the rights to Palestine by warfare like every other F-ing country” so you’re saying the Nazis won the rights to Poland and France etc. by warfare?
God saves you sir, I love you sir ❤❤
Which part of what you said justifies beheading babies ?
See this: ruclips.net/video/V4N4R2pLFk8/видео.html&si=ida1ZTRsWxqryN-3
But What could justify Israel’s genocide in Gaza?
Just stop the lies
don't feed the trolls. especially one called 'the Israel Prophetess'
Norman is so clear and right. Thanks Norman x
Norman you are amazing. A gift to the world.
Objective presentation!!! Finally!
Thank you 🙏🏽
The first & ONLY explanation of all this mess that I’ve ever understood. Thank you, Norman Finkelstein.
❤❤
Incredible humanitarian ❤
The world leaders need more men like Norman. People who put humanity and facts first. This man deserves global recognition for his life commitment towards education, awareness and justice towards a people who aren’t even his own, a true humanitarian. May he be blessed for all his efforts. ❤
We need someone to put this into graphs etc
Thank you for speaking the truth
Very biased and subjective…..there was no mass expulsion, many Arabs left voluntarily, yes , definitely under duress, however, they were not expelled. Also the original British mandate had Israel being a much bigger territory as all of Jordan which is much larger was reserved for the indigenous Arabs population. Interesting, that finkelstein conveniently left these parts out but makes sense given his anti Israel bias
yet Palestinians, armed with documents and deeds, are not allowed to return by Israel. If that’s not expulsion, then what is?
@@expedition346 After the 1948 war Israel initially offered all the Arabs who had left Israel ´-- overwhelmingly of their own accord or under pressure from Arab forces that wanted areas cleared to massacre the Jews -- offered all of them to return on condition that they would be loyal citizens and not plot to destroy Israel. Arab leaders uniformly rejected this offer. Similarly, after 1967 Arab defeat in that war, Israel offered to return all conquered territory in return for Arab states ending their attempts to destroy Israel. That offer was uniformly rejected as well.
Totally biased from the start with his arbitrary choice of start. Doesn’t mention how the 1.2 million Arabs came to the area after Jewish settlers started bringing the desert to bloom. The Arabs weren’t plentiful there under the Ottoman Empire. Shamefully talks about Israel “expanding”, totally ignoring what led to that. He ignores Jordan (the actual Palestinian state and totally colonial (Jordan had no history). Totally ignores that Gazans were Egyptians.
quite irrelevant. try justifying indiscriminate bombing and mass expulsion with that…
This Guy is very fair in his analysis to this conflict. I was unhappy with the cutting of the video short. Where can we find the rest of it? Please
there are links further down in the comment of @davidspivak8343
All my respect to you sir. Thank you.
Is norm in the habit of skipping or skimming over details because he 'doesn't have time?' I've seen this in at least 2 interviews. Isn't he unemployed? And as others have noted, he could certainly speak more quickly and then he would find more time...
that's a lovely contribution
Free felestinian
Another masterful presentation by Prof. Finkelstein.
My God! It can only have been allowed to continue like this by the USA and the EU. 😭😭
Your start itself is wrong.WHO ARE THE Indigenous PEOPLE.
ON WHAT GROUNDS YOU DECIDE WHO IS INDIGENOUS
For you to really to know what is going on and why it is going on you have to read the OLD TESTAMENT in the BIBLE BECAUSE THAT IS THIS TRUE ORIGIN.
Professor, it's a bit misleading. It's the Brits and their bankers who created the "conflict". The Palestinians awoke one day to the realization that they were indeed being systematically displaced, and they vigorously opposed their own extinction, as anyone would faced with that aim by newcomers moving in.