Genuine Oil Review - Ford vs Volkswagen vs Mercedes vs BMW
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- In this episode we'll compare genuine engine oil from Ford, Volkswagen, Mercedes and BMW, with all the other oils tested in previous episodes.
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I've bought Ford oil for my Mondeo. I've thought that it isn't anything special, especially since it's so cheap, but I'm glad to see that it actually seems to be quite good quality oil.
I too was surprised because in Estonia this oil is dirt cheap!!
Wow, your testing it always really impressive and meticulous. Glad we can see such thorough tests.
Project Farms vibes! Well done
Indeed, but these videos seems to be next level of technology in matter of testing procedures.
Project farm is better
@@potterslab4956 project farm more usefull for everyday product...
While this guy test more oil usable in performance aspect especially those higher range and racing series oil
@@potterslab4956this guys methods shit on Project Farm
Nice to see your channel growing. Good content as always. Hope to be back in RO soon!
Foarte smecher testul ! Chiar ai depus mult efort ! Felicitari !
Abia azi am descoperit și eu canalul tău, felicitări! Ești un fel de Project Farm de România, și spun asta în sensul bun! Continuă cu clipurile, te urmăresc cu drag! :D
Foarte bune informații. Pe viitor ar fi binevenite mai multe informații despre uleiurile contrafacute. 👌
Thank you for taking the time to put your interesting work in nice videos.
Yes, please make a video how to spot fake automotive oils and other products!
The evolution of your channel is stunning! Please keep it up. Will follow you :)
Very nerdy. Like it alot :) Subscribed
Nice test. Well done. Very useful information. I was under the impression that engen or mobil was the supplier for VW
You killed it bro. Liked your methodes. Wish you had left one non- dealer oil as a baseline. Like Mobil one or the Castrol you've mentioned.
Well done, super for sharing the document.
I'd like to propose for test two other oils. AMSoil AEL 5W30, and PMO 5w30.
Wow, amazing video! Very informative 💯 Keep it up 👍🏽
This video has point and I liked it.
At first I thought this would be another nates interactive auto but damn this is some quality stuff
I dont know for the other brands but for VW the oil supplier depends on region, In Canada all VW group engine oils come from Wakefield, who License the Castrol brand from BP and blends the oil or imports it themselves (based on the specs VW/BP provide) even if a VW dealer orders VW branded bottles from "The Factory" the order is fullfilled by Wakefield (Castrol) outside of the distribution system VW uses. Mostly due to the fact its a hazardous material.
The oil your Dealer uses for oil changes is purely supplied in bulk by a supplier and held in large tanks on site. Mechanics are not emptying bottles of oil into your car.
As an ex R&D engineer for car part, I can tell you that most car manufacturers have a policy to use multiple suppliers for everything. This way if they have trouble with one supplier, then they have an alternative one and they don't have to stop production. This is why it is hard to say who makes it for VW. Different regions also have different suppliers, because it is not worth to ship oil from Europe to Asia for example.
I can also confirm the statement for the OEM and aftermarket parts made by the same manufacturer. Same manufacturer can use older (worse) production lines / sites or worse quality materials.
I have to say - you are the first youtuber that knows what gage R&R is! And it makes a good impression.
You are exactly right.
Thanks man for your tests!
de cand astept acest clip!!
Cool videos. Keep up the good work. Respecte!
@Stimpy&Ren Copy, but Sergio does it much better tbh. Results vise, much more science.
Chiar voiam sa vad cum sunt uleiurile originale. Keep up the good work !
Good video. Very informative. Thanks.
Felicitări !!! Obișnuiam să mă uit la Project Farm dar acum am ceva local ! Content foarte bun!
Great test!
i just subscribed because all the effort you take
Chiar te rog sa faci un video in care explici mai pe îndelete, poate chiar și câteva imagini cu produse contrafăcute.
Bafta!!!🔝🔝🔝
Foarte fain video-ul tau.Felicitari.
Good job, thank you for your effort!
Out of curiosity: the result of the stickiness test is measured by the width of the remaining drop. Wouldn’t that tell you something about cohesian, rather than adhesion, all influenced by surface tension. You want to know how much oil sticks to the metal, not how large a drop of oil would be.
Great content, as always !!
Ford Formula F oil was from Castrol.
VW seems to use Shell nowadays (Fuchs in the past). They also switch from 5W30 seen on the video to 0W30 for norm 504/507. Might be the Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L or Shell Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3.
Great video you should have more subscribers keep up the good work could you do a video about cheap spark plugs vs like NGK
Aveti stima mea! Subscribed
Foarte interesant experimentul tau.
The quality of the product depends upon the Base Oil and Additives used
i.e. Which refinery is using the latest technology for producing Group III / IV and Additives supplied by Infinium, Lubrizol and Afton.
Thank you verry much for this research👌
Nice video - good job
Good to watch this experiment.
Could you also test mannol and Bp oils?
Great content you make 👌
Good work!!!
Un test precis. Mulțumim!
Sugerez un test pentru antigel G12/G12+/G12++, Ravenol, HEPU, inclusiv câteva la preț redus din Kaufland, Metro. Consider ca ar fi interesant sa vedem diferența între brand uri și care au cel mai bun punct de fierbere și oferă cea mai buna protecție împotriva depunerilor în perioada de vara.
Plănuiesc de mult timp sa fac un test la antigel, dar sunt câteva aspecte care trebuie verificate si încă nu am găsit o metodă prin care sa le ilustrez corespunzător. Dar lucrez la asta și o sa vină si acel test.
salut . urmaresc canalul de cva timp si vroiam sa iti zic cand o sa fie un test si la uleiul Polytron tot am vz ca sar spune ca ar fi cel mai bun din ce test fac ei dar ar fi interesant si ca altcineva sa fac un test pe el . foarte tare canalul big Like
Nice video!
That's good to know, I've bought Ford Formula oil before & my philosophy was that if it's good enough for Ford to sell over the counter to their customers then it's good enough. And this test proves that. It's also a very reasonable price. Coincidentally I've just bought a Mercedes & that calls for their own oil spec of "229.1" & their genuine oil with that spec is a very reasonable price too ...so it's good to see that it's a good quality oiol in this video too.
Based on what I've heard from other people and mechanics, and my own car running for 320.000 km on the Mercedes 229.31 and now 229.51 oil without any issues in relation to lubrication, it's without any doubt a great oil for the money. There isn't really any reason to spend more money on something more expensive, the additive package seems to be just right and the price is very affordable. If people really care about their engines, changing their oil more often will have a way bigger impact on engine life than anything else
Genius, the answers i wanted,, Thank You !
Can you do some tests on oil additives... specifically Liqui Moly CeraTec?
If you use a proper oil that already has detergents & dispersants in it, there isn't a need to use "Oil Additives". Often, adding after market products to your Oil can unbalance the "chemical balance" already in it and thus, be counter productive.
Foarte bune informații. Pe viitor ar fi binevenite mai multe informații despre uleiurile contrafacute.
ca si posesor de opel zic ca ar fi interesant sa adaugi si uleiul GM dexos2 la tabel.
For VW oil it's been make by Castrol BP. We can insure it by verifying the batch number at the rear which use the same stock pattern as Castrol brand. So it's even the entire product make by Castrol shipped to VW fulfilment department.
Edit: btw excellent work you are presenting us, keep it !
BMW is BP oil, Volkswagen is Shell, Mercedes is secret, they make there own oil, but to be honest I think they are using Kroon oil ;)
VW has gone to Mobil 1, as of about 3 years ago.
@@garyallman3039Mobil 1, that's good to know.
Exxon Mobil make the VW original fill but the dealers can use whatever they like in the workshop as long as it has the appropriate VAG approval.
I don't agree with the rating for the oils' viscosity. A higher or lower viscosity doesn't make an oil better or worse, sometimes you want more viscosity and sometimes you want less depends on the design and operation of the mechanical components.
What you should have tested is the oils' deviation from the standardized viscosity rating, ie how *different* the time they took to flow was compared to the SAE standard on the label, and how much it changes after the evaporation test, and ideally also how much it changes after being put through a certain number of lubrication cycles.
It's exactly shows this deviation, since he always compares the same 5W30 category oils.
Hello there. Nice job and very good in explaining. Are you able to teat some direct comparison oils like standard for standard. Like VW 507.00 vs Amsoil 507.00 and some others that comply to the same standards.
Esti super tare. Petrec foarte mult timp invatand despre masini de pe youtube din pura pasiune dar foarte rar am gasit ingineri care fac teste "ca la carte". Asta a fost primul video pe care l-am vazut de la tine, dar sunt sigur ca urmeaza sa iti epuizez canaul in cateva zile :)) Iti urez mult succes si de la mine ai un subscribe cu clopotel
Metodele de testare au fost revizuite între timp. In primele episoade nu aveam "know-how-ul" necesar pentru a face testele precum acesta. Sfaturile și indicațiile oferite de voi m-au ajutat foarte mult sa perfecționeze metodele de testare și conținutul episoadelor.
Very professional 👍
Bravo, astept cu drag si alte episoade :)
Audi recommends Castrol Edge LL for its diesel cars in Australia. Go with the recommended grade oil for your car and change it regularly to get best results.
In Europe they switch to Mobil 1
Salut! Ți-am urmărit episoadele cu interes, foarte bune. Aș avea o recomandare pentru teste de benzină. Nu știu dacă este posibil dar ar fi interesant să vedem calitatea combustibililor de pe piață. Succes în continuare!
Daca ai o mașină puternică (3 litri turbo benzina de 400 c.p. spre exemplu) benzinele care te ajută să scoți cea multă putere și cel mai mult cuplu sunt MOL 102, OMV 100 și MOL 100.
Dacă ai o mașină normală din care nu vrei să scoți puteri ridicole, cea mai buna este Petrom 95.
Very good video!! Do you think Castrol Edge is better than VW long life III original oil? Thanks body 😉👍
Super! Multumim!
Un test cu lichidele de parbriz de vara, ar fi interesant.
Chiar am luat niște muște pe parbriz și mă gândeam că trebuie sa fac asta 😅
Se poate face un astfel de test si pentru carburanti? Ar fi interesant, poate elucidam misterul cu benzina de la OMV si Petrom...daca e aceeasi
I'm going to enjoy this.
Timken test is great for hypoid oils. In this case not so much.
In Canada, VW oil is supplied by Castrol and is Green when new. So it appears different from the oil you had.
That is for VW 508 requirements.
Thank you....Well done.
Hello, I wanted to point out the expire date that applies to engine oils. Many auto traders said that if the oil is in between 5 years from the production date, it is ok but in my opinion not all car parts shops are store the oil correctly and the oil will degrade because of extreme heat or cold conditions. As that been said I bought a 4 year old oil for my car, after 5000 km my engine started to have noises at cold start. I have replaced the oil again but with a fresh date and my engine last over a year and aprox. 11.000 km until the cold start noises appear. Since then I always buy fresh oil for my car, meanwhile auto traders despear when they see me!!!!!
I use Nulon oil in my car. Recommended is 15W40. Great oil.
Here in the US, VW oil is provided by Mobil 1
Nice video. I would like to learn more how to spot fake products 😀
Dear Sergui, I wonder if it is ok to use for example Ford Formula F oil for audi tdi engine? I could not find the vw specs on this oil. I guess they are all the same pretty much?!
P.S. great channel, wish you the best, keep the good work!!!
Last oil change I used bmw twin power 0w-30 and the engine started using/evaporating so much that I had to add oil every 1000km maybe. I added ticker castrol oil and some additive that stoped the oil consumption. Now I used liqui moly 5w-40 with LM ceratech and still no consumption and the engine idles more quite and runs good.
What additive did you use? Why did you change the Castrol with Liqui moly?
@@emilkondov5120 wanted to try since there is alot of positive comments to liqui moly and tests done to compare and liqui moly is a good oil to an nice price. Liqui moly ceratech additive is what I used with fresh oil and right after I noticed that I can hear the injectors more clearly - engine noise could be quiterer. Since I did not do an sound decibel test before and after it could be placebo but to me the engine mechanical noise level went down a bit.
@@ibocan92 unfortunately liqui moly was not a good choice for my bmw. Just within 4 months, it alarmed me for low oil and that never happened before when i was using shell oil.
Gasoline GmbH seems only to be a wholesale supplier. Not the oil manufacturer.
But i like your channel. Subscribed!
Manufacter of Ford oil was BP. Probably it still is today.
its time to test Fuchs gt1 pro c-3 ...i think it's one of the best oils out there
used to do Fuchs oil for Volkswagen
Sergiu Gabor thank you for the video.Which 5W30 oil do you recommend for VW 1.6 TDI,81kw?
good job!
Filmulețe cu conținut.... felicitări Sergiu. De curiozitate...ce ulei folosești la dieselul tau....🚗💕
Salut, ar fi interesant sa adaugi si uleiul GM dexos2 la tabel.
La testul cu lame ar fi interesant daca poti sa cantaresti cat a picurat inapoi si calculat cat a ramas pe lama.
Can I just add that very low temperatures will affect the quality of brand new oils in a way that wasn't explored here. Freezing temperatures cause the additives to drop out of suspension, particularly detergents and crucially anti foaming agents. This last additive is essential to prevent aeration of oil and metal to metal contact as bubbles replace oil in a given volume. Stored oil (particularly relevant if its over 5 years old and been stored out in a garage over winter) can be visually checked for this by emptying out the contents into a clear jug (the oil should still appear "bright" with no cloudiness) then cut open the original container and check for sludgy/slimy grey deposits in the bottom. If there is any, even if the oil was in a sealed container, its basically only good for oiling hinges, or recycling.
This happens in fully synthetic oils too, a lesson that I learned and I ended up having to recycle 5+ litres of new Castrol. And also dumping the oil from my Suzuki GSX-R 750k after just 18 miles (!!!) when I checked the container some spare oil was in, and noticed bubbles on the surface through the sight glass.
This is a great video, but oil quality can be trashed if its not stored correctly.
All of mine is now at the back of my wardrobe, cool and dark, but never below 8°C.
Sorry, I'm something of a geek too when it comes to doing home servicing.
încă o sugestie interesantă de test: același ulei (marcă, specificații) nou vs uzat. spre ex. dacă există posibilitatea de a procura un eșantion de ulei uzat de la un atelier auto sau reprezentanță și apoi comparat cu același ulei nou. de obicei reprezentanțele sunt mai consecvente în a folosi mereu aceeași marcă de ulei.
ar fi foarte interesant de văzut cum se degradează uleiul respectiv din cauza uzurii și/sau a trecerii timpului.
Multă baftă în continuare!
Am pus deja aceasta idee in aplicare si am testat ulei de la Motul si de la Ravenol, nou vs uzat. Ideea este ca nu putem avea o comparație corectă deoarece fiecare mașină este utilizată diferit. Dar pe viitor, o sa pun ceva la cale, care sa ne permită sa le comparăm.
Which of all the oil brands that have been tested in this channel has gotten the best results? I've seen a lot of oil videos from the US the thing is that they always test the same brands and 95% of the time Amsoil oil wins so it's good to see other European brands tested.
M am abonat ca sa susțin ceva de calitate. Ma interesează Redline, un review ar fi mai mult decât apreciat.
Hi, great video. Is it possible to do the test for Ravenol, Castrol, Liquimoly and Motul for 5W30 C1 oil ?
Just bought 25 (5 x 5l) Volkswagen long life 0w30 from a well known garage. On the label listed Shell.
Hello, it seems that the new supplier for BMW oil is Shell - could be Shell helix ultra professional AM-L
he said in the video BMW oil is made by Shell.
Hi Sergiu , what you think about new oil for dacia Duster provided by Castrol GTX RN17 !?
interesting test, thank you! One note: BMW turbo engines run hotter than 180, usually closer to 200 degrees operating temp
Keep in mind though his test was at 180 degrees Celsius, not Fahrenheit.
Hi Sergiu , Can you please give me some information about my Oil. I have a Mercedes Sprinter 2.2 engine type OM651 with 130 horsepower from 2014. I began doing my own service because it was to expensive and I have put the Mobil1 ESP 5W30 but lately it’s hard to find it so I have found the original oil on Amazon it’s the same as you used in the video Mercedes Oil 5W30 229.51. My questions are this. Can I use this one even if in the maintenance book says that I should use 228.51 ? I don’t know the difference between them which is better?. Is the 229.51 Mercedes Oil good for my Mercedes 2.2 OM651?. Thank you for this great video and I have watched all of it… great job 👍👏. Have a lovely day
Buna ziua , ce ulei mi-ai recomanda pentru un mercedes 350 cdi din 2013 condus 90 la suta din timp in oras ? Multumesc anticipat
VW oil is made by Castrol, more or less. Pretty much every VW/Audi dealership has both VW Genuine oil and Castrol. Even on oil cap it says "Castrol Recommended" If you pay attention, VW oil and Aral (both 1L and 4L) come in exactly the same bottle! VW is gray, Aral is blue but you get the idea.. And from what I know, Castrol and Aral are coming from the same factory SO... I use Castrol Edge 5W-40 (because original oil is only available with 5W-30 specs) in my VW Vento 1.9 TD (not TDI) and it has over 450,000km! :D Still going strong and pulls like a train hahah!
You can test also Ravenol 0w30 SSO, and Amsoil 0w30? :) Curently running on Ravenol SSO, but i think the Amsoil is way better :), and after your video about oil filters i will stick with Purflux :).
Salut ,un test cu elf 5W40 900sxr, uleiurile elf din Romania sunt fabricate la fabrica elf Romania fost lubrifin Brașov, vz pe eticheta spate a treia pagina!
Ce alternativa mai buna pot gasi in loc de bmw twinpower oil
. Ravenol vmp sau rep 5w30.. este mai bun....?? Mersi..
Ar fi interesant sa faci o comparatie si cu selenia 5w40
Hai salut, vreau sa vad diferenta intre uleiul BMW si Aral , daca se poate
I would love to see a pour test / pumping test at temperatures we get in the UK, usually 0c to 8c in the winter, almost all the tests on you tube are done at very cold temperatures which makes it had to judge as I think there are pour point temperature depressers added to the oil to give them a low pour temp. I'd like to know for example what is the difference between a 5w30 and a 0w30 at 5c, is it even noticable?
Very good job. You should test XADO oil and products.
Interesting point the oil stickiness test, could it be a better result with a smaller drop at the end of the stick to indicate more of the oil has stuck to the surface above so the osmosis effect of the drop is smaller at the bottom of the stick?
Could you do a test of Castrol 5W/30 LL3 (507.000)? It is the oil that most older VW uses.
That's what he tested
I think Castrol makes the oil for VW. It's most likely the same as Castrol 5W/30 507.000 LL3
Also, have you done a test on Castrol Magnatec 5W30 as i want ot try it instead of Ford Formula F?
Nice, from last year I started using MOTUL for my VW Passat. Any idea? the only reason it is written is 100% synthetic.
Salut. Obiective testările tale. Fain. Despre GM dexos 1 gen 2 sau 3 cum aflam cine îl face și cum ii găsim o fisa tehnica?
Can you please test Honda genuine Oil