Any good grinder will do. Just remember coffee beans are always scared before they go through a grinder. You should reassure them by saying: "don't worry, you're all gonna be fine."
The sad fact is that gear videos just get more views than videos about water chemistry. But that's what you gotta do as a RUclipsr. It feeds into this culture of buying new stuff. Not just in coffee but basically any hobby-focused content across RUclips. This is a really important video, thank you for making this.
@@LanceHedrick I'm already very satisfied with my gear setup, so theory videos about stuff like water chemistry are what I find really interesting nowadays. Unless there's a machine or grinder that's really pushing something revolutionary that has never been done before (as opposed to small iterations/minor evolutions upon existing form/function), I'm personally not that interested. But I get why gear reviews do so well because they appeal to people just starting out and wanting to "do their research" on what setup they want to get.
@@LanceHedrick you should have Milin Patel on some time. He's a water sommelier for almost 20 years. I've had a tasting and it's phenomenal what different waters can taste like. My mind was blown. Here's some of him. ruclips.net/video/Z6Tc0N97jf8/видео.html Let me know if I need to get you in touch!
@@LanceHedrick That is too bad, but it makes sense. One has to do what is marketable to make things work. I feel obliged to say, though, that even if it does not make much business sense to make videos about water chemistry (or similar things!), that the Lotus Coffee Water you co-founded has definitely been game-changing for my filter brewing. I do not have enough time or energy to make concentrates these days, which I used to but found too laborious and generally unpleasurable as a process, but with some tweaking I found a recipe with your product that helps me more consistently make coffee to my preference. I, for one, would enjoy seeing a scattered few videos on matters like water chemistry (or similar things) from you in particular, but I'll continue watching your stuff regardless!
@@LanceHedrick haha, thank you! But for real though, I (and many others) really appreciate what you do to educate your viewers. The information you drop in every video is worth so much and is helping so many people to better understand and appreciate coffee. Keep up the great work!
@@LanceHedrick thanks for putting this together and it resonates with a lot of us. Marketing and community hype is so good at making us feel like we are missing out. I feel an opportunity for coffee roasters lies there, to invest on marketing the ethics and quality of their coffee. Would love to see a video of you where you dive into the topic of "how to find a good roaster" in the future. For example I am trying to support local roasters, but how do I know they work ethically? And how do I know their coffee is as good as it could be? If you've only had McDonalds, how do you know it's crap food? We need more education and focus on coffee. Maybe something you can work on in the future as well. Eg preselect 10 roasters based on ethics, pick let's say a washed Ethiopian from each and review...
Very well said. I stand with you Lance! And resonate with all that was said. In fact it’s one of the reasons Natasha and I started September Coffee Co. Thanks for the shoutout, as a very small roaster we truly appreciate it.
Your flipping video comparing the DF64 vs 83 nearly cost me $400...I was so ready to pull the trigger on the 83 until the coffee guy I but my stuff from told me to rather take the 64.
@@grotius912 First of all taste is subjective, different people prefer different flavors, textures, coffees, and grinders. Secondly as someone who owns both, the DF83 in my opinion is better than the DF64 in every way. Better build quality, better textured and sweeter shots while also having better clarity. I own and have tried many grinders and the DF83 produces top notch espresso and respectable pour overs. I'm glad you are happy with your DF64, but the 83 IS the better grinder.
@@maxuttech1028 I am sure it is and maybe someday in the future there will be sound reason to upgrade further, -but for now, where I am at in my coffee journey, I am probably better off spending the money on better coffee beans.
I’m so glad you’ve started reviewing home roasting equipment and was really hoping other RUclipsrs would follow suit. Getting single origin high quality green beans at USD $8 a pound makes saving money much faster with this hobby.
Wow this makes me happy again about my brand new df64, I was really thinking I should have waited for new grinders in my price range but I’m loving this thing!
When I set out to get a grinder, I treated it similar to getting a Cast Iron pan. I wanted to get a reliable one that could work with me for years to come, without the necessity of upgrading. This was a good message, and this conversation is fundamental to many similar communities where hardware and source of materials are in flux (ie. the audiophile community, gaming, cooking, handicrafts, etc.). In the audio community, equipment quality can get you to a solid listening experience, but good equipment exposes the flaws in a low quality compressed sound file. That base level of getting a WAV or FLAC file is essential to the best sound, just like coffee and water are the fundamentals of flavor for us here with the coffee. I'm glad I could make a good reliable purchase on a grinder so I could do exactly as you say and devote the majority of my time and resources to discovering the nuances of working with different beans water and recipes. The most fun part of this all to me is the ritual of MAKING the coffee and to that end, the huge amount of things I can tweak in my technique and ingredients makes it so fun for me to play with and see how well I can brew with my own hands. I love being mindful in such a hobby. Cheers!
exactly! Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment. the parallels to the audio world are more and more apparent everyday. Appreciate your support and brew something tasty!
You beat me to it! My very first thought was "this is just like audiophile obsessions with equipment." Spot on! And thanks, Lance, for the important message!
I’m also an Audiophile/Coffeephile! Hello fellow CoffeeAudioPhile! Buy once, cry once. I’ve wasted so much money on low quality Audio equipment. I now stick with Scanspeak, Purifi, and similar and it’s very high performing but without the Audiophile tax of some of the high end assembled speakers. I buy the raw drivers and build my own enclosures, tune them myself with a DSP or build my own crossovers. I’m new to coffee, but currently looking into modding a Gaggia classic. I want to get the most I can for my money, but at the same time I want to buy something high quality that will last me decades.
I know many will be upset by this misleading build up, and I understand. But, this is a message I really think, especially considering the recent frenzy of grinder releases, was important to be discussed. Please leave a like, comment, etc, to help offset the unavoidable onslaught of dislikes and people upset in the comments. I'll of course deliver with more and more high quality grinder reviews, but felt, even with my own participation with Pietro, the upcoming Timemore, Niche, etc, that this was more important than a review. Thanks for the trust and the support. EDIT- if this somehow offended you because you felt duped, well, that is part of my point in all of this. I have been working on and carefully crafting this video from the ground up, from the thumbnail to the title to how I presented it and built it up. Everything is tied into my main point. If you feel offended, it might be a good time to ask yourself why? Anyway, this is already officially my most disliked video ever. I love the engagement ;) ANOTHER EDIT- my previous spiel on local roasters was NOT TO DISSUADE you from buying local. That is ludicrous. Instead, it was addressing what so many run into- they trust implicitly the local roaster and, if the coffee doesn't taste good, they just keep upgrading. My point was the roaster can absolutely be at fault. I was not vilainnizing buying local. Again, that is absolutely absurd and horrendously ssilly.
your argument on clickbait is a bit weird, you could also be happy with less channel growth. The argument that clickbait gives you views is the same of a drug dealer selling to kids: they want it
Thanks. Will you do an actual ultimate grinder showdown soon? I believe that a 2023 version of Hoff's vid wouldn't hurt since there's so much development in the space. A collab wouldn't hurt either.
Thanks for this reminder/wake-up Lance! I have had a similar issue for the last few weeks in that I can't make up my mind on which £500 ish grinder to actually go out and purchase! I have the cash ready but I don't have "buyers' remorse", I have a fear of "buyers' remorse" for something i have not even bought yet, which is somehow even more ridiculous. I have nearly just taken the plunge and ordered the Niche but at the last minute something in my head says "how about something cheaper like a Lelit Fred".
I went with the Varia Gen 2. It's great, I love it! It has really changed my workflow for the better. It is quiet and consistent. Hope you've made your decision too 😊
That middle section about buyers remorse and bean sourcing was an amazingly candid and much needed surprise! Such a great callout and reminder to everyone.
One of the things that drew me to coffee in the first place was how many different things there are to explore here. It's human nature to zoom in on a handful of those things, and this can lead to great insight, but in doing so we also lose a certain amount of perspective. I love videos like this that help me to zoom back out for a moment and see the bigger picture. Thank you!
@@221b-l3t so you got the Q2 but felt like your missing out on the x pro? You could probably resell the Q2 and not lose too much. A seasoned conical burr should be better tasting than a new grinder so that's kind or a selling point on the used market for those who know.
@@BensCoffeeRants My comment got removed somehow. Too much of a sailor to get past the profanity algorithms. No I messed up my original description, I meant I have the Pentagonal bur would have wanted the Heptagonal. At the time the X Pro didn't exist and the Q2 had the old burr, that no one liked. It can't do espresso because it doesn't feed below 600 microns and it makes so many fines that dialing becomes very difficult. Had I known that soon after the Heptagonal burr would be available again or that the X-Pro would exist I wouldn't have settled. Now I can't sell it because people all want the Heptagonal version. They would rather pay more foe a much better burr than get a slight discount for an inferior one that I can't sell in hood conscience without pointing out that the burr is not good. That's why they scrapped the 38 mm 5 sided burr. It was a fines making mess, somehow it works at 48 mm but if you shrink it down, the beans don't quite feed right. I could grind finer but it takes 10 minutes because it can only grab half a bean, maybe nick it and then grab the whole bean. Very frustrating grinder, that I can't dial in. Go coarser, more fines, longer draw down. I change the grind from 800 microns to 1600 and same and it draws in 4:30 instead of 7 min. But tastes underextracted, since it's just the fines clogging the paper not really the coffee providing resistance. I'm giving it away and sticking to espresso until I can afford an X-Pro.
I’m glad that so far my GAS-gear acquisition syndrome-is mostly limited to camera gear. But if Weber released a smaller version of the SG1 with maybe 135mm burrs, I’d seriously have to consider it.
Thank you for this. This should be on the mandatory watch list for everyone who's gotten himself into speciality coffee, heck we should probably watch this once a month as a reminder
This topic sorely needs more discussion. Another hobby of mine is photography, and I see the same thing play out. There is no shortcut to buy your way to significantly better results. That only comes through effort, knowledge, and time. High end equipment only becomes useful after everything else is dialed in, and you are looking for that last few percent of improvement.
This seems like a criminally unwatched space. I'm finding the best RUclipsrs for this space to have WAY less subs than I expect. That said, I don't get how places like Hoffman's has 2 million when the guy can't do ANY review without heavy personal bias
You should make a video called Coffee Transparency: Upgrade Your Sourcing. And then actually compare all those grinders. Blind cupping across all and see where the point of diminishing returns is, and how much extra quality you get for the cost goes up. Or cup poor quality beans Vs good quality. Either way I’ll watch ❤
a girl I went on a date with told me her parents just got the lamarzocco Linea micra and a nice grinder to go along, yet she hadn't had a good coffee at home. she asked for advice. I told her they/she might want to consider spending more than 10€ for a kg of coffee. I don't know what happened afterwards, with the coffee I mean. never met her again. she did enjoy my coffee much more though. I use a gaga classic and a sage grinder, but don't buy coffee that's cheaper than 30€ a kg. moral of the story: that will get you laid.
What an amazing message, in my opinion it applies to everything we do and own. Happiness lies in the actual process of researching, trying and succeeding, instead of expecting any item bought to just do it for us.
Finally someone addresses this. Jesus fucking christ this constant pressure from the industry to make me go and upgrade my gear, really get on my nerves.
The best gear is the gear you know how to use. Everything you've said here is incredibly true, and its so refreshing amongst all the GAS vids and pics floating around, to have a video keeping it real.
I think I am blessed with lousy taste buds lol. I genuinely cannot tell the difference between many grinders and coffees. Sure, I can tell between bad beans or machines and good ones. But unless it is very obvious, I cannot tell. So just a good enough one works fines with me. But I do enjoy watching experts pick apart these machines and methods. So thanks. If the tasting notes say dried fruits, pecan, baker's chocolate, etc, good grief, I can't tell.
I feel this video was made specifically for me. I was waiting to buy a grinder for months cuz i kept hearing about a cool new thing coming out and i was afraid to just make a choice. I finally preorded an SD40v2. I don't care if its the best or coolest, its what i want.
@@LanceHedrick it really is! As someone who has a passion for coffee but works in other professions that can be unhealthily gear-centric (audio engineering and videography), it's always nice to have a good authoritative reminder that gear lust in the coffee space is largely the same (for better and for worse).
I was actually looking for a grinder review because I'm interested in getting into coffee, and while it gave me no idea what grinder to get it did remind me not to spend a butt load on a grinder and skimp on the coffee.
This is what one of my biggest worries was with the Sculptor when I joined the Kickstarter… this was exactly what I needed to hear! I was just at a new small roaster in Chicago and I think I’m going to do my research on all of my local Chicago roasters!
I have used sculptor 078 for more than 6 months now and it is so good! I have tested quite a lot of beans and it works perfectly. Bought from China as they are on the China market back in June 2022.
The chase is real baby! There will never be i feel that perfect cup just because i feel every perfect looking pull i make , is that perfect cup until the next one. The way i roast, the type of coffee, the country it came from, the grinder you used, all these variables will always give you different flavors.
This is really timely. I was looking for a new grinder, watching all the new reviews waiting for the one that sounded like it would fix my brews, then I moved to an apartment with significantly harder water a couple weeks ago. All of my brews were noticeably worse, so I bought a zero filter and third wave water. The very first cup was the best coffee I have ever had. Significantly cheaper than a new grinder, and third wave water is still way more expensive than just making your own water at home if you live in a place where the necessary minerals are readily accessible.
So true. Great beans and great water is like 80% or more of the flavor. I like my fancy decent espresso and niche grinder but they are just tools not ingredients. Same thing with guitar gear. It all doesn’t matter if you can’t okay guitar. But we always love to get the newest gear
We’ve been waiting so long for a P64 (almost a year), watching all of these new (cheaper) grinders coming out. It’s easy to wonder if we’re making a mistake, but this video helps me breathe more easily and reminds me that the reason we’re buying the P64 is to improve workflow. We have had several frustrating issues with our DF64 and want a dependable, higher quality machine that has been around a while. Thanks for the reminder, Lance. When we get our grinder next month, we’ll toast our espressos to you. ☕️☕️Cheers
P64 - buyer's remorse. A lot of static even with RDT. Notable retention - these last grains won't go out however hard i smash the hopper. Build quality is great though
@@LanceHedrick I actually like and appreciate you very much, and think you have an interesting and unique personality. My novel is a very dark espionage thriller, and I've had way too many cups of coffee, but I love you deeply
I feel like we are the students in a classroom who were acting like hooligans and not focusing on what actually matters for the past few weeks. And just now, we have been humbled by the class teacher. The teacher loves us. That is for sure, and we should not disappoint him. Thanks, Lance, for being so pure and honest as always. ❤
I would rank a awesome cup of coffee based first on the wisdom and skills of the barista, you. Then the beans, the grinder and lastly the expresso machine. If you make watered down expresso or milk based drinks you really don't need a $3000 grinder or a $4000 machine as you changed the profile of the extraction.
I love this message. I agree-- we need to think critically about where our money is going. As coffee enthusiasts, we should spend our hard-earned money on ethically sourced coffees that align with our moral values instead of unnecessarily feeding into rampant consumerism in a way that doesn't. It's really easy to fall into the rabbit-hole since there is so much marketing surrounding these novel products, both from the companies and from content creators, so this reminder was very necessary. Very insightful, as always!
This needed to be said. I will always have massive respect for your channel, and value your opinion! 👏🏼 I have personally fell into the trap of upgrade-itis and it’s refreshing to hear someone address what is actually happening. FOMO is so hard to combat, and with marketing as good as it is, it’s hard not to chase the wrong dragon. You are a real one. ❤
Love this message. Super important. Be happy with what you've got. Stop feeling forced to consume by these brands. We care about how sustainably our coffee is being grown, but we don't look at home, at how unsustainable our gear acquisition syndrome is.
Yeah I totally agree, except I dont have a grinder. I know a lot about coffee, nothing about grinders. Watched this video, which was great. But I still don’t have a grinder 😆
Only thing I'll add is don't assume just because you're getting your coffee locally they are not sourcing that coffee ethically or trying to push boundaries in coffee roasting. You definitely don't need to buy from big name specialty coffee roasters to get good tasting coffee.
I’m a roaster and honestly I’ve only used SOURCED COFFEE (thanks for that) however I’ve only used for yrs my ninja pro spice grinder for yrs HOWEVER now I’m expanding and I NEED a larger grinder with similar quality I know I know But everyone loves my roast and grind Any recommendations I’m looking around
Ummmm....VERY NICE VIDEO! YOU...Have blown my mind, really. I didn't even think that way. I fell into that FOMO mind set NOT even think of my coffee I'm using. Thanks for opening my eyes and being sincere! Glad I stumbled upon your video looking for new grinder. It all makes sense. New subscriber now!
Hands down the best video I could have clicked on right before buying my first complete setup. What’s funny is, I clicked on this because of the flashy words, and walked away more confident
I find that every hobby from suffers from a similar category error. Namely that you can solve problems of knowledge and skill by buying more expensive gear. I fight with this all the time. The rush you get from a new toy is addictive but its not taking the place of understanding a principle.
I already buy the best coffee(Pressco) in my country but I grind my beans, for espresso, manually with a Comandante. I just need to make the process quicker. Can you please recommend me a good grinder? From what I read, I know that Niche, DF64, Eureka Mignon Sigle Dose are good grinders, but you can help me decide which one to buy and maybe you can give me another grinder option, if needed. Thanks! Also thank you for all your content!
Thank you for this video. I have been thinking about buying a stay alone grinder. That's because of something I read online. This video has made me think twice.👍
I recently purchased the Baratza Encore ESP and falling prey to marketing and questioning the investment as the Turin 83 looks promosing - texture, body, sweetness, taste, etc.
I agree. However, people who are constantly upgrading want to get rid of their old equipment. That means people like me with less money might be able to find a decent used one - if we’re lucky.
What you said and are promoting is so important. Too many people are busy comparing their life and possessions rather than being grateful for what they have. Also try to support the primary producers rather than give your money to equipment manufacturers who manipulate through marketing and advertising.
Meanwhile, I am using a Timemore C3 that moved to the office, a Knock Aergrind that I use at home when I want a single cup and my Wilfa Svart that is almost 7 years old now for when I want to use my Sage Precision Brewer for 500ml of coffee.
Well said ...you won another subscriber. I am starting to research buying a new grinder for my all-important morning brew and I'm shocked at the choice and all the start-ups now producing all these devices. I think I've found what I want after many days of watching reviews. At the end of the day, I live in a big City and I have plenty of choices if I want to stop for a coffee. At home, I want a good grinder that will not look out of place on my kitchen counter. All of the obsession with different burr sets and grind settings is somewhat over the top for most people and I am fussy about my coffee. I'm actually beginning to wonder if my current grinder really needs replacing.
This video is about the same principle as what good cooking is about. Step 1 is good ingredients. I can make a high quality steak in a crap pan but a great pan aint gonna make a supermarket steak sing.
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN, of grinders for coffee. GOOD GRINDS BAD GRINDS ALL HAND-CHOSEN, as far as the eye can see. AND ONLY ONE WILL SURVIVE I WONDER WHO IT WILL BE. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN, of grinders for coffee.
Loved the video.. I do think that doing some research BEFORE handing over the money a lot of angst can be saved. Buy the best you can afford. Clearly a grinder is extremely important. Some are over the top dollars wise..The Weber EG1 is absolutely a stupid purchase..it can NEVER be justified as a sensible purchase..never!! But..its all part of the experience and experience plays a huge part in the romance of building a great coffee. I have an Onyx EG1 which is even more stupid..and I love it every day!! Thanks for the vids..most enjoyable.
Its like with hifi enthuisiasts. The gear becomes the hobby, the music takes the backseat apparently, but for the enthuisiasts the music does sound somewhat better with the latest gear bought. Did this, and came out on the other side with a really good system, but more relaxed on the budget. Good enough concept. Same goes for coffe gear, where the coffee and maybe depending on where you live maybe also the water quality. So all you say is true, but oth the gear is a hobby, by itself, the coffee is enjoyed no matter what, unless you become hifi only with that also. My gear is entry level, but tweaked and upgraded. Made gigantic difference with the taste of the coffee, and so I find myself content and happy with entry level gear, enjoying it spits out worldclass coffee at a low price.
this was quite a funny video to click on first- like genuinely my first ever video on finding a coffee grinder. ironically, I just wanted to buy one solid one to contribute less to overconsumption. anyway, good message though- got me to subscribe
Holy shit, just saw your clean cut Gaggia pro hack vid (awesome) then saw this one. You went full 1970s look in only 2 years! Nice hair growth genes brk
I got absorbed by the video and didn't realize until it was over that there was no grinder review. Either way, good vid. I'm lucky that my local small coffee shop sources and roasts their own beans and they're fantastic. Now I just need something better than my old Encore. Know where I can find a video on grinder recommendations? lol
The fact is there is no single coffee seller I trust, whether US based or overseas. Their priority is profit. Nobody produces or sells coffee to grow awareness, strive for perfection, etc. Don't make this some sort of socialistic issue. At the end of the day it's simple economics for all sides.
a great video, I would buy different coffee's even if they cost more, but having to spend $10 or more just to ship it, and even many coffee roaster that are 60 miles away want to ship not sale to me retail, there is one local roaster that have a tasting bar that they are reopening since convid shut down but is limlted to when open and they do drip only tasting, I buy mainly from local roaster about six mile from me and he carry's around 8 to 10 blends, I've been hooked on his Sumatra and Guatemalan blend for my espresso, I use a Breville Barista Pro and have quit using built in grinder and now use my Eureka Mignon Facile grinder and have noticed much more flavor from coffee, may start look around again at coffee roasters :)
I am subscribed to your channel, I actively search for your content, I look up older videos as well. Not as much as I go look up Hoffmann's stuff. But I want to see your videos. But! They never ever show up in my feed. Never. I have to always search for your channel manually. Don't know why. Might want to look into it. Does it happen to anyone else?
Your arguments could be applied to the audiophile movement as well. Its ALMOST ALWAYS about the new gear. Maybe they treat music as the "given". I'm not entirely sure, but the buying/selling threads in those groups are popular for a reason
"If you have a grinder, whatever you have... be happy with it." ~Lance Hedrick We have a $14 grinder we got from WAL-MART. Whenever my wife and I use it, we have to bang it against our stone counter to prevent the coffee grinds from sticking at the bottom too much. I have to use a toothpick as a makeshift WDT tool to break up the clumps and help scrape the bottom of the grinder. The bottom of the grinder is also falling off due to the consistent banging, so I'll probably have to go to the store to get another one pretty soon; they are after all less than $15.
I know is not possbile for every one, but. What about if we spend the money of the machine, grinder, whatever…traveling to a source country? Let´s go to Honduras, Guatemala, Colombia and get to know the country, culture and in the end. The Coffee. Similar is happening in a lot of industries. Music, we are more worried about this guitar, this plug-ing, this tube…than the music. EDC-knife, you get a new offer every week and still…is a knife and we haven´t learn how to properly sharpen the one we already own. Etc, etc.
This makes me so happy for my purchase and cancel my blessings of what I got for coffee and really going for roasters. But as mentioned, what is good enough? 😊
What would be a good grinder that is fairly quiet? I have a Baratza Bette 270 and every time I use it Baratza calls and asks for a review (LOL). I only single dose and for home use. I was thinking of Niche but wanted some input from all of you.
The desire to upgrade is consumerism, the companies are preying on your desire to have the best. It’s a keeping up with the Joneses thing. Their new grinder is marginally better or the same as the competitors, but they sell you on the idea that it’s “better”.
Loved this video, gave me a lot of food for thought. ❤ Question though: is there honestly a difference between ceramic burrs and steel burrs in an electric grinder? I'm still pretty new to learning about this stuff and hoo boy I am getting a headache already. 😅
In terms of your main message… any producers roasters or suppliers you want to put forward ? As you said sone great ones out there? Any specific aspects? (I enjoyed the NYT piece on liberica, and climate change … will that make the specialty coffee cut? Still hard to find …. Or how about the wild range of genetic variants coming out of Yemen? ). Anything we should discuss tasting in specific??????
I bought a grinder that was adequate. But now a few years later, I learn I cannot replace the burrs. So, now it's only good for French press. Lol Now I know, that I will not buy a grinder that does not use some kind of standard burr setup that can be easily replaced. I buy from a local roaster whom I trust.
Any good grinder will do. Just remember coffee beans are always scared before they go through a grinder. You should reassure them by saying: "don't worry, you're all gonna be fine."
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underrated comment.
Why did I read this in James Hoffmanns voice
Eye rolling Dad joke is appreciated
But not too fine 😉
The sad fact is that gear videos just get more views than videos about water chemistry. But that's what you gotta do as a RUclipsr. It feeds into this culture of buying new stuff. Not just in coffee but basically any hobby-focused content across RUclips.
This is a really important video, thank you for making this.
Thank you! Stuff I really like making (water chemistry, etc) barely get any views. Review videos? My best performing.
Buying fresh coffee, using good water, putting a paper filter in your portafilter and WDT isn’t sexy, but seems to make the biggest difference 😢
@@LanceHedrick I'm already very satisfied with my gear setup, so theory videos about stuff like water chemistry are what I find really interesting nowadays. Unless there's a machine or grinder that's really pushing something revolutionary that has never been done before (as opposed to small iterations/minor evolutions upon existing form/function), I'm personally not that interested. But I get why gear reviews do so well because they appeal to people just starting out and wanting to "do their research" on what setup they want to get.
@@LanceHedrick you should have Milin Patel on some time. He's a water sommelier for almost 20 years. I've had a tasting and it's phenomenal what different waters can taste like. My mind was blown.
Here's some of him. ruclips.net/video/Z6Tc0N97jf8/видео.html
Let me know if I need to get you in touch!
@@LanceHedrick That is too bad, but it makes sense. One has to do what is marketable to make things work. I feel obliged to say, though, that even if it does not make much business sense to make videos about water chemistry (or similar things!), that the Lotus Coffee Water you co-founded has definitely been game-changing for my filter brewing. I do not have enough time or energy to make concentrates these days, which I used to but found too laborious and generally unpleasurable as a process, but with some tweaking I found a recipe with your product that helps me more consistently make coffee to my preference. I, for one, would enjoy seeing a scattered few videos on matters like water chemistry (or similar things) from you in particular, but I'll continue watching your stuff regardless!
Love the self reflection and viewer education, even though I could have really used a 1+ hour grinder showdown video to help me procrastinate more. 😘
oh you better believe i'll absolutely do that in the probably near future ha!
@@LanceHedrick haha, thank you! But for real though, I (and many others) really appreciate what you do to educate your viewers. The information you drop in every video is worth so much and is helping so many people to better understand and appreciate coffee. Keep up the great work!
@@LanceHedrick with chapters please.
Yah, how am I supposed to live my best live with only 13 minutes of Lance at a time???
@@LanceHedrick thanks for putting this together and it resonates with a lot of us. Marketing and community hype is so good at making us feel like we are missing out. I feel an opportunity for coffee roasters lies there, to invest on marketing the ethics and quality of their coffee. Would love to see a video of you where you dive into the topic of "how to find a good roaster" in the future. For example I am trying to support local roasters, but how do I know they work ethically? And how do I know their coffee is as good as it could be? If you've only had McDonalds, how do you know it's crap food? We need more education and focus on coffee. Maybe something you can work on in the future as well. Eg preselect 10 roasters based on ethics, pick let's say a washed Ethiopian from each and review...
Very well said. I stand with you Lance! And resonate with all that was said.
In fact it’s one of the reasons Natasha and I started September Coffee Co. Thanks for the shoutout, as a very small roaster we truly appreciate it.
Your flipping video comparing the DF64 vs 83 nearly cost me $400...I was so ready to pull the trigger on the 83 until the coffee guy I but my stuff from told me to rather take the 64.
@@grotius912 First of all taste is subjective, different people prefer different flavors, textures, coffees, and grinders. Secondly as someone who owns both, the DF83 in my opinion is better than the DF64 in every way. Better build quality, better textured and sweeter shots while also having better clarity. I own and have tried many grinders and the DF83 produces top notch espresso and respectable pour overs. I'm glad you are happy with your DF64, but the 83 IS the better grinder.
@@maxuttech1028 I am sure it is and maybe someday in the future there will be sound reason to upgrade further, -but for now, where I am at in my coffee journey, I am probably better off spending the money on better coffee beans.
I’m so glad you’ve started reviewing home roasting equipment and was really hoping other RUclipsrs would follow suit.
Getting single origin high quality green beans at USD $8 a pound makes saving money much faster with this hobby.
Wow this makes me happy again about my brand new df64, I was really thinking I should have waited for new grinders in my price range but I’m loving this thing!
I'm honestly a bit surprised this isn't 2 hours long
you'll be even more surprised once about 45s in.
@@LanceHedrickgreat video dude!
thank you!
I have fast forward to 10 minutes and have yet to see how each grinder works.😮
Total click bait title. Dude doesn't even talk about coffee grinders. Don't waste your time...
When I set out to get a grinder, I treated it similar to getting a Cast Iron pan. I wanted to get a reliable one that could work with me for years to come, without the necessity of upgrading. This was a good message, and this conversation is fundamental to many similar communities where hardware and source of materials are in flux (ie. the audiophile community, gaming, cooking, handicrafts, etc.). In the audio community, equipment quality can get you to a solid listening experience, but good equipment exposes the flaws in a low quality compressed sound file. That base level of getting a WAV or FLAC file is essential to the best sound, just like coffee and water are the fundamentals of flavor for us here with the coffee.
I'm glad I could make a good reliable purchase on a grinder so I could do exactly as you say and devote the majority of my time and resources to discovering the nuances of working with different beans water and recipes. The most fun part of this all to me is the ritual of MAKING the coffee and to that end, the huge amount of things I can tweak in my technique and ingredients makes it so fun for me to play with and see how well I can brew with my own hands. I love being mindful in such a hobby. Cheers!
exactly! Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment. the parallels to the audio world are more and more apparent everyday. Appreciate your support and brew something tasty!
You beat me to it! My very first thought was "this is just like audiophile obsessions with equipment." Spot on! And thanks, Lance, for the important message!
I’m also an Audiophile/Coffeephile! Hello fellow CoffeeAudioPhile! Buy once, cry once. I’ve wasted so much money on low quality Audio equipment. I now stick with Scanspeak, Purifi, and similar and it’s very high performing but without the Audiophile tax of some of the high end assembled speakers. I buy the raw drivers and build my own enclosures, tune them myself with a DSP or build my own crossovers.
I’m new to coffee, but currently looking into modding a Gaggia classic. I want to get the most I can for my money, but at the same time I want to buy something high quality that will last me decades.
what grinder did you end up choosing ?
I know many will be upset by this misleading build up, and I understand. But, this is a message I really think, especially considering the recent frenzy of grinder releases, was important to be discussed. Please leave a like, comment, etc, to help offset the unavoidable onslaught of dislikes and people upset in the comments. I'll of course deliver with more and more high quality grinder reviews, but felt, even with my own participation with Pietro, the upcoming Timemore, Niche, etc, that this was more important than a review. Thanks for the trust and the support.
EDIT- if this somehow offended you because you felt duped, well, that is part of my point in all of this. I have been working on and carefully crafting this video from the ground up, from the thumbnail to the title to how I presented it and built it up. Everything is tied into my main point. If you feel offended, it might be a good time to ask yourself why? Anyway, this is already officially my most disliked video ever. I love the engagement ;)
ANOTHER EDIT- my previous spiel on local roasters was NOT TO DISSUADE you from buying local. That is ludicrous. Instead, it was addressing what so many run into- they trust implicitly the local roaster and, if the coffee doesn't taste good, they just keep upgrading. My point was the roaster can absolutely be at fault. I was not vilainnizing buying local. Again, that is absolutely absurd and horrendously ssilly.
your argument on clickbait is a bit weird, you could also be happy with less channel growth. The argument that clickbait gives you views is the same of a drug dealer selling to kids: they want it
You gotta do what you gotta do, Lance! 💰
Thanks. Will you do an actual ultimate grinder showdown soon? I believe that a 2023 version of Hoff's vid wouldn't hurt since there's so much development in the space. A collab wouldn't hurt either.
@@assemblywizard8 clicks pay for equipment and video production. “Happy with less views” means using more of your own funds
Thanks for this reminder/wake-up Lance! I have had a similar issue for the last few weeks in that I can't make up my mind on which £500 ish grinder to actually go out and purchase! I have the cash ready but I don't have "buyers' remorse", I have a fear of "buyers' remorse" for something i have not even bought yet, which is somehow even more ridiculous. I have nearly just taken the plunge and ordered the Niche but at the last minute something in my head says "how about something cheaper like a Lelit Fred".
Soooo…. Which grinder should I upgrade to? 😂😂
Thank you for the PSA from the heart.
We really do need a platform to organize, rate and review roasters.
I'd like to see Lance do that, I think he's got the right mix of comedy, goofiness, knowledge, and adorability. He'd be like the Guy Fieri of coffee
Not only buyers remorse but research fatigue! That's where I'm stuck at atm. This helps a lot. Great video. Thanks.
Which one did you pick?? I'm now stuck in research fatigue.
Haaaa, relate. Still haven't purchased, but that is to do with the cost in Australia. I'll go with the varia vs3 gen 2... I think😂
Oh gosh. I'm between the Timemore 078S and the DF83 V2. It's rough out here making a decision. 😅
I went with the Varia Gen 2. It's great, I love it! It has really changed my workflow for the better. It is quiet and consistent. Hope you've made your decision too 😊
That middle section about buyers remorse and bean sourcing was an amazingly candid and much needed surprise! Such a great callout and reminder to everyone.
One of the things that drew me to coffee in the first place was how many different things there are to explore here. It's human nature to zoom in on a handful of those things, and this can lead to great insight, but in doing so we also lose a certain amount of perspective. I love videos like this that help me to zoom back out for a moment and see the bigger picture. Thank you!
The most practical video about coffee accessories I’ve watch so far. Buyer’s remorse is real. Thank you for helping learn to be contented.
I appreciate that greatly!
Contentment is great gain. 👍👍😁
@@221b-l3t So you DIDN"T like the X Pro?
@@221b-l3t so you got the Q2 but felt like your missing out on the x pro? You could probably resell the Q2 and not lose too much. A seasoned conical burr should be better tasting than a new grinder so that's kind or a selling point on the used market for those who know.
@@BensCoffeeRants My comment got removed somehow. Too much of a sailor to get past the profanity algorithms.
No I messed up my original description, I meant I have the Pentagonal bur would have wanted the Heptagonal. At the time the X Pro didn't exist and the Q2 had the old burr, that no one liked. It can't do espresso because it doesn't feed below 600 microns and it makes so many fines that dialing becomes very difficult.
Had I known that soon after the Heptagonal burr would be available again or that the X-Pro would exist I wouldn't have settled. Now I can't sell it because people all want the Heptagonal version. They would rather pay more foe a much better burr than get a slight discount for an inferior one that I can't sell in hood conscience without pointing out that the burr is not good. That's why they scrapped the 38 mm 5 sided burr. It was a fines making mess, somehow it works at 48 mm but if you shrink it down, the beans don't quite feed right. I could grind finer but it takes 10 minutes because it can only grab half a bean, maybe nick it and then grab the whole bean. Very frustrating grinder, that I can't dial in. Go coarser, more fines, longer draw down. I change the grind from 800 microns to 1600 and same and it draws in 4:30 instead of 7 min. But tastes underextracted, since it's just the fines clogging the paper not really the coffee providing resistance.
I'm giving it away and sticking to espresso until I can afford an X-Pro.
FEED THE ALGO FOR LANCE, LET'S ALL HAVE A FIGHT IN THE COMMENTS> F U !
I’m glad that so far my GAS-gear acquisition syndrome-is mostly limited to camera gear. But if Weber released a smaller version of the SG1 with maybe 135mm burrs, I’d seriously have to consider it.
Thank you for this. This should be on the mandatory watch list for everyone who's gotten himself into speciality coffee, heck we should probably watch this once a month as a reminder
This topic sorely needs more discussion. Another hobby of mine is photography, and I see the same thing play out. There is no shortcut to buy your way to significantly better results. That only comes through effort, knowledge, and time. High end equipment only becomes useful after everything else is dialed in, and you are looking for that last few percent of improvement.
This seems like a criminally unwatched space. I'm finding the best RUclipsrs for this space to have WAY less subs than I expect. That said, I don't get how places like Hoffman's has 2 million when the guy can't do ANY review without heavy personal bias
It is awesome how much you are bringing to the coffee community. Thanks a lot for your work.
Great video 👍
Clickbait! ~300 - 500 is a lot of money and I just want a comparison.
You should make a video called Coffee Transparency: Upgrade Your Sourcing. And then actually compare all those grinders. Blind cupping across all and see where the point of diminishing returns is, and how much extra quality you get for the cost goes up. Or cup poor quality beans Vs good quality. Either way I’ll watch ❤
a girl I went on a date with told me her parents just got the lamarzocco Linea micra and a nice grinder to go along, yet she hadn't had a good coffee at home. she asked for advice. I told her they/she might want to consider spending more than 10€ for a kg of coffee. I don't know what happened afterwards, with the coffee I mean. never met her again. she did enjoy my coffee much more though. I use a gaga classic and a sage grinder, but don't buy coffee that's cheaper than 30€ a kg. moral of the story: that will get you laid.
Thanks Lance, this was a much needed video
thank you for the kind words!
To think that we deserve to know what companies are paying for their raw materials is a very entitled viewpoint.
What an amazing message, in my opinion it applies to everything we do and own. Happiness lies in the actual process of researching, trying and succeeding, instead of expecting any item bought to just do it for us.
Hey lance! Whats that white grinder on the left? I cant find it and i wanna learn more about it
This video should be named “all the niche killers” 😂🤣
hahaha tbh that might've been even more clickbaity haha!
Finally someone addresses this.
Jesus fucking christ this constant pressure from the industry to make me go and upgrade my gear, really get on my nerves.
The best gear is the gear you know how to use.
Everything you've said here is incredibly true, and its so refreshing amongst all the GAS vids and pics floating around, to have a video keeping it real.
I think I am blessed with lousy taste buds lol. I genuinely cannot tell the difference between many grinders and coffees. Sure, I can tell between bad beans or machines and good ones. But unless it is very obvious, I cannot tell. So just a good enough one works fines with me. But I do enjoy watching experts pick apart these machines and methods. So thanks. If the tasting notes say dried fruits, pecan, baker's chocolate, etc, good grief, I can't tell.
I feel this video was made specifically for me. I was waiting to buy a grinder for months cuz i kept hearing about a cool new thing coming out and i was afraid to just make a choice. I finally preorded an SD40v2. I don't care if its the best or coolest, its what i want.
you sure about it? 🙂what you wanted might change upon waiting for the grinder while in transit haha .. Oh man I hate being broke with wrong hobby
100% Correct! Well said!
No viewers remorse here
thank goodness!
What a compassionate rant Sounded like a pc guy nerding out on new pc hardware love the passion
Perfect video to accompany a 7:30 am hand-grind of bright Costa Rican beans
I hope so!
@@LanceHedrick it really is! As someone who has a passion for coffee but works in other professions that can be unhealthily gear-centric (audio engineering and videography), it's always nice to have a good authoritative reminder that gear lust in the coffee space is largely the same (for better and for worse).
I was actually looking for a grinder review because I'm interested in getting into coffee, and while it gave me no idea what grinder to get it did remind me not to spend a butt load on a grinder and skimp on the coffee.
Check out my grinder Playlist. Dozens of reviews
This is what one of my biggest worries was with the Sculptor when I joined the Kickstarter… this was exactly what I needed to hear! I was just at a new small roaster in Chicago and I think I’m going to do my research on all of my local Chicago roasters!
I have used sculptor 078 for more than 6 months now and it is so good! I have tested quite a lot of beans and it works perfectly.
Bought from China as they are on the China market back in June 2022.
So how about a video focusing on different coffees you like and why.
Pestle & Mortar?
In another note, so glad to see your sub count, it’s crazy to think you’ve amassed this many people for the love of coffee 😊
1:49 I see what you did there 🗿
Clickbait title, way too many adverts, waste of time.
The chase is real baby! There will never be i feel that perfect cup just because i feel every perfect looking pull i make , is that perfect cup until the next one. The way i roast, the type of coffee, the country it came from, the grinder you used, all these variables will always give you different flavors.
This is really timely. I was looking for a new grinder, watching all the new reviews waiting for the one that sounded like it would fix my brews, then I moved to an apartment with significantly harder water a couple weeks ago. All of my brews were noticeably worse, so I bought a zero filter and third wave water. The very first cup was the best coffee I have ever had. Significantly cheaper than a new grinder, and third wave water is still way more expensive than just making your own water at home if you live in a place where the necessary minerals are readily accessible.
So true. Great beans and great water is like 80% or more of the flavor. I like my fancy decent espresso and niche grinder but they are just tools not ingredients. Same thing with guitar gear. It all doesn’t matter if you can’t okay guitar. But we always love to get the newest gear
We’ve been waiting so long for a P64 (almost a year), watching all of these new (cheaper) grinders coming out. It’s easy to wonder if we’re making a mistake, but this video helps me breathe more easily and reminds me that the reason we’re buying the P64 is to improve workflow. We have had several frustrating issues with our DF64 and want a dependable, higher quality machine that has been around a while. Thanks for the reminder, Lance. When we get our grinder next month, we’ll toast our espressos to you. ☕️☕️Cheers
P64 - buyer's remorse. A lot of static even with RDT. Notable retention - these last grains won't go out however hard i smash the hopper. Build quality is great though
I'm only watching this to help create a character sheet for an asshole in the novel I'm writing and just watching this pisses me off
Either way, you're putting money in my pocket. Thanks, my super fan 😘😘😘
@@LanceHedrick I actually like and appreciate you very much, and think you have an interesting and unique personality. My novel is a very dark espionage thriller, and I've had way too many cups of coffee, but I love you deeply
I feel like we are the students in a classroom who were acting like hooligans and not focusing on what actually matters for the past few weeks. And just now, we have been humbled by the class teacher.
The teacher loves us. That is for sure, and we should not disappoint him.
Thanks, Lance, for being so pure and honest as always. ❤
I would rank a awesome cup of coffee based first on the wisdom and skills of the barista, you. Then the beans, the grinder and lastly the expresso machine. If you make watered down expresso or milk based drinks you really don't need a $3000 grinder or a $4000 machine as you changed the profile of the extraction.
I love this message. I agree-- we need to think critically about where our money is going. As coffee enthusiasts, we should spend our hard-earned money on ethically sourced coffees that align with our moral values instead of unnecessarily feeding into rampant consumerism in a way that doesn't. It's really easy to fall into the rabbit-hole since there is so much marketing surrounding these novel products, both from the companies and from content creators, so this reminder was very necessary. Very insightful, as always!
Thanks @Lance for this, trying to be more coffee maker user...first steps are research.
Fabi, from Argentina!
This needed to be said. I will always have massive respect for your channel, and value your opinion! 👏🏼
I have personally fell into the trap of upgrade-itis and it’s refreshing to hear someone address what is actually happening. FOMO is so hard to combat, and with marketing as good as it is, it’s hard not to chase the wrong dragon.
You are a real one. ❤
Sooooo we SHOULD START ROASTING OUR COFFEE ITS ROASTER UPGRADE TIME EVERYONE
Love this message. Super important. Be happy with what you've got. Stop feeling forced to consume by these brands. We care about how sustainably our coffee is being grown, but we don't look at home, at how unsustainable our gear acquisition syndrome is.
Yeah I totally agree, except I dont have a grinder. I know a lot about coffee, nothing about grinders. Watched this video, which was great. But I still don’t have a grinder 😆
Only thing I'll add is don't assume just because you're getting your coffee locally they are not sourcing that coffee ethically or trying to push boundaries in coffee roasting. You definitely don't need to buy from big name specialty coffee roasters to get good tasting coffee.
I’m a roaster and honestly I’ve only used SOURCED COFFEE (thanks for that) however I’ve only used for yrs my ninja pro spice grinder for yrs HOWEVER now I’m expanding and I NEED a larger grinder with similar quality
I know
I know
But everyone loves my roast and grind
Any recommendations
I’m looking around
I may just keep my E37SD instead of buying the Philos after watching this again.
Ummmm....VERY NICE VIDEO! YOU...Have blown my mind, really. I didn't even think that way. I fell into that FOMO mind set NOT even think of my coffee I'm using. Thanks for opening my eyes and being sincere! Glad I stumbled upon your video looking for new grinder. It all makes sense. New subscriber now!
Hands down the best video I could have clicked on right before buying my first complete setup. What’s funny is, I clicked on this because of the flashy words, and walked away more confident
Came for a grinder. Stayed for the roast.
This was the most honest click baity title I have ever seen. Is that even possible? I'm in such a confused state right now. 😂 👍
I generally give a thumbs down to reviewers who throw packaging around , but I like you and will give you another chance.
I find that every hobby from suffers from a similar category error. Namely that you can solve problems of knowledge and skill by buying more expensive gear. I fight with this all the time. The rush you get from a new toy is addictive but its not taking the place of understanding a principle.
I already buy the best coffee(Pressco) in my country but I grind my beans, for espresso, manually with a Comandante. I just need to make the process quicker. Can you please recommend me a good grinder? From what I read, I know that Niche, DF64, Eureka Mignon Sigle Dose are good grinders, but you can help me decide which one to buy and maybe you can give me another grinder option, if needed. Thanks! Also thank you for all your content!
Thank you for this video. I have been thinking about buying a stay alone grinder. That's because of something I read online. This video has made me think twice.👍
I recently purchased the Baratza Encore ESP and falling prey to marketing and questioning the investment as the Turin 83 looks promosing - texture, body, sweetness, taste, etc.
I agree. However, people who are constantly upgrading want to get rid of their old equipment. That means people like me with less money might be able to find a decent used one - if we’re lucky.
what a waste of time
sorry for hurting your feelings, oh sensitive one. Kisses for your spiritual booboos
What you said and are promoting is so important.
Too many people are busy comparing their life and possessions rather than being grateful for what they have.
Also try to support the primary producers rather than give your money to equipment manufacturers who manipulate through marketing and advertising.
*Patting my grinder
Its ok, 600N. You go when you feel like it.
Meanwhile, I am using a Timemore C3 that moved to the office, a Knock Aergrind that I use at home when I want a single cup and my Wilfa Svart that is almost 7 years old now for when I want to use my Sage Precision Brewer for 500ml of coffee.
Well said ...you won another subscriber. I am starting to research buying a new grinder for my all-important morning brew and I'm shocked at the choice and all the start-ups now producing all these devices. I think I've found what I want after many days of watching reviews. At the end of the day, I live in a big City and I have plenty of choices if I want to stop for a coffee. At home, I want a good grinder that will not look out of place on my kitchen counter. All of the obsession with different burr sets and grind settings is somewhat over the top for most people and I am fussy about my coffee. I'm actually beginning to wonder if my current grinder really needs replacing.
This video is about the same principle as what good cooking is about. Step 1 is good ingredients. I can make a high quality steak in a crap pan but a great pan aint gonna make a supermarket steak sing.
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN, of grinders for coffee. GOOD GRINDS BAD GRINDS ALL HAND-CHOSEN, as far as the eye can see. AND ONLY ONE WILL SURVIVE I WONDER WHO IT WILL BE. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN, of grinders for coffee.
I couldn’t agree more I sometimes wonder if people enjoy coffee or just Hunt the new stuff. I usually buy my coffee fro thism Velton’s. New
All of that hype and still no Feld 47 reviews... and I've been using that grinder for 4 years now...
Loved the video.. I do think that doing some research BEFORE handing over the money a lot of angst can be saved. Buy the best you can afford. Clearly a grinder is extremely important. Some are over the top dollars wise..The Weber EG1 is absolutely a stupid purchase..it can NEVER be justified as a sensible purchase..never!! But..its all part of the experience and experience plays a huge part in the romance of building a great coffee. I have an Onyx EG1 which is even more stupid..and I love it every day!!
Thanks for the vids..most enjoyable.
Its like with hifi enthuisiasts. The gear becomes the hobby, the music takes the backseat apparently, but for the enthuisiasts the music does sound somewhat better with the latest gear bought. Did this, and came out on the other side with a really good system, but more relaxed on the budget. Good enough concept. Same goes for coffe gear, where the coffee and maybe depending on where you live maybe also the water quality. So all you say is true, but oth the gear is a hobby, by itself, the coffee is enjoyed no matter what, unless you become hifi only with that also. My gear is entry level, but tweaked and upgraded. Made gigantic difference with the taste of the coffee, and so I find myself content and happy with entry level gear, enjoying it spits out worldclass coffee at a low price.
Lance - if what you are saying is true about equipment hoarding... you should review coffee. I'm new to the hobby and finding good coffee is hard too.
this was quite a funny video to click on first- like genuinely my first ever video on finding a coffee grinder. ironically, I just wanted to buy one solid one to contribute less to overconsumption. anyway, good message though- got me to subscribe
Holy shit, just saw your clean cut Gaggia pro hack vid (awesome) then saw this one. You went full 1970s look in only 2 years! Nice hair growth genes brk
I got absorbed by the video and didn't realize until it was over that there was no grinder review. Either way, good vid. I'm lucky that my local small coffee shop sources and roasts their own beans and they're fantastic. Now I just need something better than my old Encore. Know where I can find a video on grinder recommendations? lol
The fact is there is no single coffee seller I trust, whether US based or overseas.
Their priority is profit. Nobody produces or sells coffee to grow awareness, strive for perfection, etc.
Don't make this some sort of socialistic issue. At the end of the day it's simple economics for all sides.
a great video, I would buy different coffee's even if they cost more, but having to spend $10 or more just to ship it, and even many coffee roaster that are 60 miles away want to ship not sale to me retail, there is one local roaster that have a tasting bar that they are reopening since convid shut down but is limlted to when open and they do drip only tasting, I buy mainly from local roaster about six mile from me and he carry's around 8 to 10 blends, I've been hooked on his Sumatra and Guatemalan blend for my espresso, I use a Breville Barista Pro and have quit using built in grinder and now use my Eureka Mignon Facile grinder and have noticed much more flavor from coffee, may start look around again at coffee roasters :)
I am subscribed to your channel, I actively search for your content, I look up older videos as well. Not as much as I go look up Hoffmann's stuff. But I want to see your videos.
But!
They never ever show up in my feed. Never. I have to always search for your channel manually. Don't know why. Might want to look into it. Does it happen to anyone else?
Your arguments could be applied to the audiophile movement as well. Its ALMOST ALWAYS about the new gear.
Maybe they treat music as the "given". I'm not entirely sure, but the buying/selling threads in those groups are popular for a reason
"If you have a grinder, whatever you have... be happy with it." ~Lance Hedrick
We have a $14 grinder we got from WAL-MART. Whenever my wife and I use it, we have to bang it against our stone counter to prevent the coffee grinds from sticking at the bottom too much. I have to use a toothpick as a makeshift WDT tool to break up the clumps and help scrape the bottom of the grinder. The bottom of the grinder is also falling off due to the consistent banging, so I'll probably have to go to the store to get another one pretty soon; they are after all less than $15.
I know is not possbile for every one, but. What about if we spend the money of the machine, grinder, whatever…traveling to a source country? Let´s go to Honduras, Guatemala, Colombia and get to know the country, culture and in the end. The Coffee.
Similar is happening in a lot of industries. Music, we are more worried about this guitar, this plug-ing, this tube…than the music. EDC-knife, you get a new offer every week and still…is a knife and we haven´t learn how to properly sharpen the one we already own. Etc, etc.
This makes me so happy for my purchase and cancel my blessings of what I got for coffee and really going for roasters.
But as mentioned, what is good enough? 😊
What would be a good grinder that is fairly quiet? I have a Baratza Bette 270 and every time I use it Baratza calls and asks for a review (LOL). I only single dose and for home use. I was thinking of Niche but wanted some input from all of you.
upgrade coffee beans make more noticeable different in cup. Will watch your ultimate grinder showdown, or other nice stuff review i wont buy though 😂
What would you recommend to be best $300 or less grinder for the money specically pourover either Hario or Chemex ?
The desire to upgrade is consumerism, the companies are preying on your desire to have the best. It’s a keeping up with the Joneses thing. Their new grinder is marginally better or the same as the competitors, but they sell you on the idea that it’s “better”.
Loved this video, gave me a lot of food for thought. ❤
Question though: is there honestly a difference between ceramic burrs and steel burrs in an electric grinder?
I'm still pretty new to learning about this stuff and hoo boy I am getting a headache already. 😅
I watch all your videos at 1.5 speed, which makes you seem even more caffeinated than you are. Thanks for the info!
I disagree with the cost transparency issue. Your drinking the beauty of capitalism. Without knowing it.
In terms of your main message… any producers roasters or suppliers you want to put forward ? As you said sone great ones out there? Any specific aspects? (I enjoyed the NYT piece on liberica, and climate change … will that make the specialty coffee cut? Still hard to find …. Or how about the wild range of genetic variants coming out of Yemen? ). Anything we should discuss tasting in specific??????
I bought a grinder that was adequate. But now a few years later, I learn I cannot replace the burrs. So, now it's only good for French press. Lol
Now I know, that I will not buy a grinder that does not use some kind of standard burr setup that can be easily replaced.
I buy from a local roaster whom I trust.
Good content as always! I can recommend kaffeemacher, goodkarmacoffee and 19grams if you are in Switzerland/Germany/Austria.