So this was an experiment and I'm hearing way to fast. I'll be doing some at significantly slower speeds in the future. I kind of did this just for fun to see if I could fit 8 hours into 10 minutes. I'll be playing more with time lapse on other videos. thanks for the feedback! The next video will be mostly in real time on a subject that's much easier to shoot. Keep an eye out for it!
Watched the whole thing. As far as "too fast" yeah I gotta agree.... don't underestimate the average youtuber... I (and several people I know) would gladly watch you engrave a silver cup for thirty minutes to an hour. Glad to be a subscriber!
@@misterlopez7740 *raises hand* I would definitely watch the process from start to finish for an hour! (My son may not allow me to as he's a very active 3 yr old, but I'd definitely try to!! XD)
These are great- when I started blacksmithing almost 20 years ago there wasn’t a ton of info out there- I feel that engraving is like that now... there’s a lot of videos, but it’s difficult to find a good education on the subject - thanks for helping others learn the art!
I would honestly love a slower timelapse too, even at several hours, it would be something to watch over a couple sittings. This was a great video though! Keep them coming! I just turned on notifications.
Nice work Layne. You had said that these are not educational videos, but I still pick up little things that you are doing, and yes even an old dog can learn new tricks.
Love it! The 8x worked much better than the timelapse, as far as following what you were doing and viewing enjoyment. It was def a "whirlwind" when you first started out , cause it was really small details and there was lots of movement. I think varying the playback speed is going to be the ticket for future videos - 2x or 4x for smaller, more detailed spots, and 8x (which was great) for longer/big cuts. Great job!
Damn Lane!!.. I cant even color within the lines and your engraving the lines!!!..that's amazing stuff!!.. love the time lapse and the real time .. keep up the good work
Hello Layne, great videos. As a complete novice myself I would find a video explaining the different types of engraver/ tools really helpful . Why size, geometry and materials used are important to the cut they produce and how to sharpen them? Thanks
I love the engraving strokes moving to the beat of the music. Someone’s been watching a few too many Alec Steele videos. 😁. Got a new subscriber here. Looking forward to more videos.
I would like to know a little about the story of the design of these Cups, there must be a fun tale with all the loveliness going on. I am also starting down the road to learn this, so off to some drawing tutorials as well, keep posting! :)
Thank you for the video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The time lapse was informative but a little to fast to follow, could you please explain your order of operations? Again thank you so much, this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels.
Timelapse is great as an addition to your videos, but I would like if you would make them a bit longer, and slowing down the timelapse a bit. Yeah I know it has something to do with youtubes algorithmes, that you youtubers only make 10 min. long videos, but as said, I wouldn't mind a longer video - 20 min. or so? :) - and as always, it's a real pleasure to watch a genuine master craftsman doing his craft to perfection.
This is officially now my favorite channel. Holy crap. I've done some very meticulous work as a jeweler's shop manager and primary fabricator, but this is skill on insane mode. Is there any margin for error? This was really dazzling, like seeing someone perform magic, but I felt like I didn't really understand what was happening most of the time because I lacked the experience and didn't understand the fundamentals of the craft. That's actually fine with me as entertainment, but I do value at least casual education.
As he does these as custom orders, I'm pretty sure that if he screws up, he has to start over.... *shudders* And I thought errors in filet crochet were horrible. XD
You may want to slow down timelapse when you are spinning the piece around a lot so it is easier to follow. I would also love to see you cut to real time once in a while to hear you engrave and perhaps comment on the more difficult parts. Love these videos, keep em coming :)
Agreed. Afterall, in this work an array of cutting types are involved. Each can and does teach anyone who wishes to learn and this will add to own experience. Also, use of and the effect of each line / shape gravers produce is of equal importance.
I'm a blacksmith in North Carolina and I'm just blown away by your work. All I can say is WOW. think I'll try engraving a hammer. It's amazing how much skill it takes to do this. As a craftsman my hats off to you brother. Later. Ps. Where can I get one of your ment Julip cups. Thanks.
I don't sell any items for the most part. Occasionally I'll engrave a knife or woodworking tool as an auction item. All my work is based on one off commissions. A silver mint julip cup runs between $500 and $1000 for the cup itself. Cost to engrave varies too wildly to give an average.
@@MasterEngraverTV. If I bought a mint Julie cup is it possible for you to engrave it for me. I'm a combat vet and I just need some different Army things put on it. I would sent a full scale mock up of the engravings and the cup. Love your channel and your work.
If you go back and watch my video on transfer techniques you can see exactly how I did this one. Normally I draw straight to the object but on complicated work I must use transfers to get perfect alignment.
Nice video! 1:20 - 3:08 was a bit too fast, with the piece constantly rotating it was hard to follow but from there on was pretty nice to watch. Realy digging the choice of music as well :) Also, I think 20-30 minutes is more suitable for a piece that took multiple hours to engrave, this way timelapse and real-time footage can be easily mixed.
I can see what you meant by engraving being hard to really video. I'd echo the other comments, maybe a slightly slower lapse. Beautiful work though. Really giving me an appreciation as to how much goes into the craft.
When you edit these you might want to try not speeding up the video as much or even at all when you're cutting all the small flourishing. It's very hard to follow and disorienting especially with that lighting.
Did you switch to hand push for certain items? And that looks like one small graver. Smaller than usual? Maybe it's just my eyes haha or the super fast speed... 😂
T Free the graver hand piece is essentially the same as any other. If I don’t depress the pedal I can simply push by hand with it. I don’t have to switch. If I need a bit of assistance I can touch the pedal and get the piston moving to tap the graver and make the job easier. I switch back and forth all the time.
@@MasterEngraverTV oh very cool, I would have never thought to try and push an assisted hand piece. Seems so obvious now haha. I am a newbie to engraving. I'm a 3rd Gen. Silversmith who just got sucked into engraving a few months ago and started engraving myself about a month ago and can't get enough of it. I've never enjoyed anything as much as I do engraving. Tha k you for the awesome tips knofledge your sharing Layne. - Tom
Hi. I had experience with metal base trophy cups and drinking vessels. I have found that minimum thickness for these have been fairly consistent at at least .50mm --1mm. This is manufacturer's preference as savings in costs need to be bourned in mind. Plating (EPNS), etc is not thick at all as cups are dipped into plating luquids. Pewters are of similar thickness. Basically base metal determine weight of such items. Afterall, engraver can not really afford to work far deep into the surface which would add to time in cutting.
Soooooo good and i like the time lapse you can speak in the time lapse and explain what your you're doing if you want and this is will help and in engraving it's the best choice in my opinion just try it you will find it's better Ps: i don't mean that you speak all the time just a little every 2 minutes or 4 and after that play the music
Layne, incredible work, and browsing through the comments, I agree with slowing the speed down, but I don't see the need for real time videos. Just check out Thiery's real time videos; great videos but also boring. There is a fine line in presenting these and a delicate balance, but I have confidence you'll find it. One question: are these bespoke pieces? Otherwise the value and charge for over ten hours work, not including the design and transfer, would be prohibitive for a "spec" piece.
the time lapse was a bit to fast for me. I could not see much but the cup flashing in the light. Not sure if that is just the nature of the beast, bright light on metal and all. If you do another one, can you slow the time lapse down to maybe half?
Perhaps if you could attach a camera mount to your vise so that the camera stays aligned with the work it would make for a better time lapse? There's a bit too much movement since the work is spinning but not the camera.
I think if you could figure out how to mount the camera so that it locks in with the rotation of the base clamp, you'd have a much easier to watch video. You'd have your hands and chisel rotating around the piece instead of the nausea inducing time lapse right now. Please keep up the great work. We need great videos of craftsmen on youtube. =P
I've heard of Robert Valade but I wasn't aware he was a master engraver. There are only 50 certified masters in the US and I can't find Robert Valade among the list. Unless he's listed as a Certified Colt Master. FEGA and Colt firearms are the only two entities in the US that certify masters. I"ll have to
I hope you would read my comment, my dear brother you are a gifted person with a very valuable channel to us (beginners), but you are ruining our enjoyment with the loud music & time lapse ! Please make it as you are teaching kindergarten, and thanks for uploading this great clip brothers. Cheers
NoLoVE 💔 hopefully I’ll be back at it in the fall. Between large scale commissions and factory work I’ve had little spare time. Each 20 minute video takes around 20 hours to produce and pays next to nothing in return. Hope to move over to a platform that will help pay for production.
@@MasterEngraverTV that is excellent! Will be looking forward to the newer uploads. I watched all your videos in one sitting. Watching a master craftsman such as yourself is both informative & entertaining. Hopefully the work you put into making these videos ends up paying off, best wishes.
First of all your videos proceeding this are wonderful, however I agree with many of the other comments that the time lapse is too fast and disorienting when cutting the small scrolls. I think that if you mounted the camera to the vice so that it spins with the work that would help the situation however you may have to be more mindful of your hands blocking the shot. Only other complaint is that the lighting on the cup makes it hard to see the whole pattern but that is a hard thing to fix with the convex shape. Other than that this was a pretty good video and I appreciate the still photos of the finished cup. Looking forward to the 1911 project
I'm sorry, but that time lapse was too jittery to watch. Too bad, I was looking forward to the video. I would much rather see in real time.....just edited for length. Better luck next time.
So this was an experiment and I'm hearing way to fast. I'll be doing some at significantly slower speeds in the future. I kind of did this just for fun to see if I could fit 8 hours into 10 minutes. I'll be playing more with time lapse on other videos. thanks for the feedback! The next video will be mostly in real time on a subject that's much easier to shoot. Keep an eye out for it!
Watched the whole thing. As far as "too fast" yeah I gotta agree.... don't underestimate the average youtuber... I (and several people I know) would gladly watch you engrave a silver cup for thirty minutes to an hour. Glad to be a subscriber!
@@misterlopez7740 *raises hand* I would definitely watch the process from start to finish for an hour! (My son may not allow me to as he's a very active 3 yr old, but I'd definitely try to!! XD)
I think this was perfect speed!
Awesome! Congrats on 15k subs! 🙏🙏
These are great- when I started blacksmithing almost 20 years ago there wasn’t a ton of info out there- I feel that engraving is like that now... there’s a lot of videos, but it’s difficult to find a good education on the subject
- thanks for helping others learn the art!
I would honestly love a slower timelapse too, even at several hours, it would be something to watch over a couple sittings. This was a great video though! Keep them coming! I just turned on notifications.
I'm amazed by how straight and smooth all your cuts are. It's satisfying to watch someone who is a master at their craft.
Really appreciate you taking the time to put these out, as a neophyte they are a great help.
Absolutely beautiful work. It's a pleasure to watch you create.
Wow..... thank you for putting this together, I appreciate it and your work.
Nice work Layne. You had said that these are not educational videos, but I still pick up little things that you are doing, and yes even an old dog can learn new tricks.
Absolutely GORGEOUS work ! I've wanted a Sterling Cup engraved with ERIII crest ever since I saw the Queen holding 1 at Churchill Downs :)
Thank you so much for your videos. I honestly watched your videos over again. I learned a lot!!
You just became my teacher! .... You are a awesome human Layne!
Love it!
The 8x worked much better than the timelapse, as far as following what you were doing and viewing enjoyment. It was def a "whirlwind" when you first started out , cause it was really small details and there was lots of movement. I think varying the playback speed is going to be the ticket for future videos - 2x or 4x for smaller, more detailed spots, and 8x (which was great) for longer/big cuts.
Great job!
Yet another Unimat owner... I love my unimat.
Wonderful channel. Clearly amazing work of art.
Thanks for posting - it was a pleasure to watch. 👍
Nice mix of time-lapse and real time video
Incredible work, it must be so difficult to do this kind of work where even a single mistake will ruin a piece. You have my respect.
Amazing craftsmanship!! Thank you for sharing this with us!
This is a really good look into your decision making process for cuts.
Engraving that lettering at the beginning is sorcery! Im convinced! Damn you're work is beautiful
Very cool! Can’t wait for that 1911 footage. 👍🏼
Damn Lane!!.. I cant even color within the lines and your engraving the lines!!!..that's amazing stuff!!.. love the time lapse and the real time .. keep up the good work
Hello Layne, great videos. As a complete novice myself I would find a video explaining the different types of engraver/ tools really helpful . Why size, geometry and materials used are important to the cut they produce and how to sharpen them? Thanks
Great video! Definately a format to keep, but the explanatory ones are great too. Keep up your awesome work. I appreciate all of it
Amazing work...and you must have the patience of a Saint...👍🏻
I enjoyed your video, gorgeous job!
I love the engraving strokes moving to the beat of the music. Someone’s been watching a few too many Alec Steele videos. 😁. Got a new subscriber here. Looking forward to more videos.
Thanks for video it is truly awesome to watch yr work
Really Pleased I came across this Video.
You are truly amazing..
It must be a Pleasure to be so gifted, if only is my thoughts..
Thank you very Much..
I would like to know a little about the story of the design of these Cups, there must be a fun tale with all the loveliness going on. I am also starting down the road to learn this, so off to some drawing tutorials as well, keep posting! :)
Some of that was real time? Holy crap! You sir are amazing!
No, this was all sped up.
Gracias por tan Gran contenido, nos inspira y nos enseña muchísimo.
Thank you for the video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The time lapse was informative but a little to fast to follow, could you please explain your order of operations? Again thank you so much, this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels.
Timelapse is great as an addition to your videos, but I would like if you would make them a bit longer, and slowing down the timelapse a bit. Yeah I know it has something to do with youtubes algorithmes, that you youtubers only make 10 min. long videos, but as said, I wouldn't mind a longer video - 20 min. or so? :)
- and as always, it's a real pleasure to watch a genuine master craftsman doing his craft to perfection.
I can make them any length I like. I get requests for both.
I agree, but being older I don't mind is they are longer. I know alot of younger people who can't make it through a fit minute video.
I agree, a bit longer and slower. I got a bit of motion sickness during the timelapse because it moved so fast.
Agreed, maybe adjust the speed depending on the cuts being made? Hit up other RUclipsrs and see what they have to say.
Love the playlist on your videos! please share
Beautiful work. If I may ask, How did you make that jigg to hold the cup??
Great engraver
Браво мастер ! Есть чему по учится !!! 👍👍👍👍
This is officially now my favorite channel. Holy crap. I've done some very meticulous work as a jeweler's shop manager and primary fabricator, but this is skill on insane mode. Is there any margin for error? This was really dazzling, like seeing someone perform magic, but I felt like I didn't really understand what was happening most of the time because I lacked the experience and didn't understand the fundamentals of the craft. That's actually fine with me as entertainment, but I do value at least casual education.
As he does these as custom orders, I'm pretty sure that if he screws up, he has to start over.... *shudders* And I thought errors in filet crochet were horrible. XD
You may want to slow down timelapse when you are spinning the piece around a lot so it is easier to follow. I would also love to see you cut to real time once in a while to hear you engrave and perhaps comment on the more difficult parts. Love these videos, keep em coming :)
Agreed. Afterall, in this work an array of cutting types are involved. Each can and does teach anyone who wishes to learn and this will add to own experience.
Also, use of and the effect of each line / shape gravers produce is of equal importance.
I'm a blacksmith in North Carolina and I'm just blown away by your work. All I can say is WOW. think I'll try engraving a hammer. It's amazing how much skill it takes to do this. As a craftsman my hats off to you brother. Later.
Ps. Where can I get one of your ment Julip cups. Thanks.
I don't sell any items for the most part. Occasionally I'll engrave a knife or woodworking tool as an auction item. All my work is based on one off commissions. A silver mint julip cup runs between $500 and $1000 for the cup itself. Cost to engrave varies too wildly to give an average.
@@MasterEngraverTV. If I bought a mint Julie cup is it possible for you to engrave it for me. I'm a combat vet and I just need some different Army things put on it. I would sent a full scale mock up of the engravings and the cup. Love your channel and your work.
wow! What did you use to hold the cup still? Where did you buy it? Thank you!
Great video, love that wooden jig for holding the cup. Was that hand made? Very good design.
I love the videos keep it up! Just curious how you are transferring the image onto the cup to then engrave into?
If you go back and watch my video on transfer techniques you can see exactly how I did this one. Normally I draw straight to the object but on complicated work I must use transfers to get perfect alignment.
jesus 14k subs in two weeks. way to go
Nice video! 1:20 - 3:08 was a bit too fast, with the piece constantly rotating it was hard to follow but from there on was pretty nice to watch. Realy digging the choice of music as well :)
Also, I think 20-30 minutes is more suitable for a piece that took multiple hours to engrave, this way timelapse and real-time footage can be easily mixed.
Great ! Beautyful
Wow.... just wow. Do you make your own gravers or just sharpen them as required?
I can see what you meant by engraving being hard to really video. I'd echo the other comments, maybe a slightly slower lapse.
Beautiful work though. Really giving me an appreciation as to how much goes into the craft.
Waiting on that 1911, yes sir!
I’ll be releasing the first in a series of videos on my Engravers Guild Colt 1911project within the week
When you edit these you might want to try not speeding up the video as much or even at all when you're cutting all the small flourishing. It's very hard to follow and disorienting especially with that lighting.
Agreed the super Tiny stuff was just a blur
Love it
Did you switch to hand push for certain items? And that looks like one small graver. Smaller than usual? Maybe it's just my eyes haha or the super fast speed... 😂
T Free the graver hand piece is essentially the same as any other. If I don’t depress the pedal I can simply push by hand with it. I don’t have to switch. If I need a bit of assistance I can touch the pedal and get the piston moving to tap the graver and make the job easier. I switch back and forth all the time.
@@MasterEngraverTV oh very cool, I would have never thought to try and push an assisted hand piece. Seems so obvious now haha. I am a newbie to engraving. I'm a 3rd Gen. Silversmith who just got sucked into engraving a few months ago and started engraving myself about a month ago and can't get enough of it. I've never enjoyed anything as much as I do engraving. Tha k you for the awesome tips knofledge your sharing Layne. - Tom
Amazing.
Can I ask if you know the gauge of the wall of the cups? Another way to ask this would 18ga (1mm) be thick enough to engrave on? Thanks.
Hi. I had experience with metal base trophy cups and drinking vessels.
I have found that minimum thickness for these have been fairly consistent at at least .50mm --1mm.
This is manufacturer's preference as savings in costs need to be bourned in mind. Plating (EPNS), etc is not thick at all as cups are dipped into plating luquids. Pewters are of similar thickness. Basically base metal determine weight of such items.
Afterall, engraver can not really afford to work far deep into the surface which would add to time in cutting.
Soooooo good and i like the time lapse you can speak in the time lapse and explain what your you're doing if you want and this is will help and in engraving it's the best choice in my opinion just try it you will find it's better
Ps: i don't mean that you speak all the time just a little every 2 minutes or 4 and after that play the music
copper will be your best place to start.
Layne, incredible work, and browsing through the comments, I agree with slowing the speed down, but I don't see the need for real time videos. Just check out Thiery's real time videos; great videos but also boring. There is a fine line in presenting these and a delicate balance, but I have confidence you'll find it.
One question: are these bespoke pieces? Otherwise the value and charge for over ten hours work, not including the design and transfer, would be prohibitive for a "spec" piece.
I do very few spec pieces. Around 90-95% of my work is commission work.
I thought so, way too much time and complexity for speculation. Is this one of a kind or part of several for the client?
Great stuff! The beginning was too fast but the mix toward the middle and end was good, in my opinion. Keep it up.
That turned out very cool. It would be nice if you included just a bit of real time in there to give some sense of scale.
What would be a good metal to start practising on? As a begginer
copper will be a great place to start.
@@gregleak5134 thanks
It funny how many crafts use Altoid tins.
the time lapse was a bit to fast for me. I could not see much but the cup flashing in the light. Not sure if that is just the nature of the beast, bright light on metal and all. If you do another one, can you slow the time lapse down to maybe half?
Perhaps if you could attach a camera mount to your vise so that the camera stays aligned with the work it would make for a better time lapse? There's a bit too much movement since the work is spinning but not the camera.
Unfortunately theres not enough room between the microscope and vise to fit a camera.
I was thinking that would be the problem. Maybe a smaller camera like a little webcam? I guess the problem would then be quality of the macro shots.
Also I have the same Unimat lathe on my bench! Lovely lovely little machines they are.
I have suggestion. If u some how clamp the camera to vice and each time u turn the piece camera also turns and we can see work piece better.
Oh my God
I think if you could figure out how to mount the camera so that it locks in with the rotation of the base clamp, you'd have a much easier to watch video. You'd have your hands and chisel rotating around the piece instead of the nausea inducing time lapse right now. Please keep up the great work. We need great videos of craftsmen on youtube. =P
I would personally love the firearm engraving to be a long video hour to hour and a half or so
Thank you for making these videos would love if it was bit slower
Have you heard of Master engraver Robert Valade?
I've heard of Robert Valade but I wasn't aware he was a master engraver. There are only 50 certified masters in the US and I can't find Robert Valade among the list. Unless he's listed as a Certified Colt Master. FEGA and Colt firearms are the only two entities in the US that certify masters. I"ll have to
I hope you would read my comment, my dear brother you are a gifted person with a very valuable channel to us (beginners), but you are ruining our enjoyment with the loud music & time lapse !
Please make it as you are teaching kindergarten, and thanks for uploading this great clip brothers.
Cheers
On second thought..... use a laser and engrave that puppy starwars-style :]
Hahahaa. A red rug for hand engravers, will be 'laser' anything.
Why no newer uploads?
NoLoVE 💔 hopefully I’ll be back at it in the fall. Between large scale commissions and factory work I’ve had little spare time. Each 20 minute video takes around 20 hours to produce and pays next to nothing in return. Hope to move over to a platform that will help pay for production.
@@MasterEngraverTV that is excellent! Will be looking forward to the newer uploads. I watched all your videos in one sitting. Watching a master craftsman such as yourself is both informative & entertaining. Hopefully the work you put into making these videos ends up paying off, best wishes.
don't really like the time lapse one prefer the slower one excellent work congrats
First of all your videos proceeding this are wonderful, however I agree with many of the other comments that the time lapse is too fast and disorienting when cutting the small scrolls. I think that if you mounted the camera to the vice so that it spins with the work that would help the situation however you may have to be more mindful of your hands blocking the shot. Only other complaint is that the lighting on the cup makes it hard to see the whole pattern but that is a hard thing to fix with the convex shape. Other than that this was a pretty good video and I appreciate the still photos of the finished cup. Looking forward to the 1911 project
I think you should check out Jimmy diresta and kind of edit like he does in his videos. Think It would fit better
I can tell you have done this before
The timelapse was a bit too fast, it kind of hurt my eyes if I tried to watch it.
I'm sorry, but that time lapse was too jittery to watch. Too bad, I was looking forward to the video. I would much rather see in real time.....just edited for length. Better luck next time.
Ouch that was unwatchable, shame looked like it could have been an enjoyable video
Way, way, way to fast.
NOT "to fast", TOO fast. You should have gone to school the day they taught spelling & how to use a dictionary. NO gold star for you.
Get rid of the music