Some Black School Leaders Didn't Care About Their Students In The 1950s

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2019
  • When my team and I conducted more than 200 interviews in 1989 of people who had lived through the 1950s and 1960s remembering their experiences, we did not expect that so many interview subjects would just speak out, we just tell their stories, would not hold back. This gentleman was a schoolteacher in the 1950s in Wilmington Delaware and experienced the coming of school integration and its effect on his community and other black communities. I found him honest and blunt and I appreciated his candor and his desire to have his story heard. He describes a situation which I have heard described by so many. Black local leaders who felt compelled to go along with the white man's wishes as he says. My point in presenting this video for my subscribers and others is not to put anyone down but the present a real history as experienced by this man who directly saw the things he was describing and was profoundly affected by them. The time he is referring to is the time when Board of Education, the Supreme Court decision, made school integration the law of the land, and when Prince Edward County in Virginia shut down the school system rather than integrate.
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  • @rudysims7386
    @rudysims7386 2 года назад +18

    Before integration we had cafe's, restaurants, hotels , beauty salons ,tv, repair shops,adult men baseball,and l knew all my neighbors front and back street,all gone we just didn't know how good we had it 11/20/21 and l don't know my neighbors, and foreign immigrant own the store's in my hood, its not a neighborhood anymore but a hood.💔.

  • @jerrywilliams5407
    @jerrywilliams5407 3 года назад +51

    My education was never the same after integration. That's when the culling began. How I missed my black educators.

    • @pneron2032
      @pneron2032 3 года назад +5

      Culling? What does that mean?

    • @taahiramcgee
      @taahiramcgee 2 года назад +7

      The act of slaughtering helpless animals. This is how it feels when you go to school with all white faculty. I understand that now in 2022. I graduated from a predominantly white school in 2003 and it's something I can't really explain. You definitely know there is a difference. It's almost like you have to assimilate and defend yourself so much just so that you can get some semblance of an education. If you are a boy it's an even weirder line you have to toe. You either have to be a super nerd or super athletic if you are anything in between you get marginalized big time.

    • @AmigoKandu
      @AmigoKandu 2 года назад +3

      @@pneron2032 In a nation full of All Black, and All White schools, the All Black teachers excelled at teaching "their kids".
      Black teachers were highly motivated for the success of their kids, and their people.
      Black kids tested higher during this period.
      When the entire U.S. was mandated to integrate Public Schools, it was mostly New White Teachers that were hired.
      This meant some good, some not so good.
      Down in extremely racist Louisiana, little Ruby Bridges was walked to school each day by 4 federal agents, for her safety.
      And, Ruby was taught 1 on 1 by a white lady from Boston, a Yankee.
      The next year, local parents got over it, and Ruby attended class with others.
      I'm sure that the Boston accent of that Yankee teacher perked up the ears around New Orleans.
      If you were Yankee, even with white skin, you weren't really accepted.
      Back to "culling" comment. Many great Black teachers could not transition over to new Public school teaching positions, either by racism, or that their bonafides & resume was used against them.
      But, let's look forward, and mind the road ahead of us. Look too much in the rear view mirror, you might swerve off the road.
      Focus on now, the problems that can be fixed are Now.

    • @eileencastillo6323
      @eileencastillo6323 Год назад

      @@taahiramcgee
      Very well said.
      Feeling that you had to leave part of you at the door says it all.

    • @mareerogers364
      @mareerogers364 5 дней назад

      It's the same today.Look at the Democrats. They have nominated a tool to finish putting the last nail in ADOS coffin. Education,
      politicians have used us to advance themselves.
      I have become an independent and will not vote in 2024 because of these atrocities.

  • @chriscarney5374
    @chriscarney5374 2 года назад +18

    Thank you for the educational and unbiased documents of history in your films.

  • @Beau76712
    @Beau76712 2 года назад +12

    David, I found your RUclips channel some months ago. I am a huge fan of your works and others you have shown here. God bless you

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that RUclips is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @ericbooth3393
    @ericbooth3393 5 лет назад +35

    I went to a Canadian highschool in a rural community of Ontario. The books were ripped, outdated, and so was just about every other piece of equipment that the school had.
    I ended up dropping out because the school was so incredibly useless. The teachers and staff had no interest in the students. No school in the USA or Canada should have these problems.

    • @Angels1168
      @Angels1168 3 года назад +6

      Thats what happens, its usually the minority students that acted and treated school books and desks like that.

  • @Meng776
    @Meng776 4 года назад +48

    Lotta black people didn't agree with Martin. Martin saw integration as the key to equal resources, Malcolm understood that you couldn't force people's hearts to grow and only cared about strengthening black communities.

    • @jermen5137
      @jermen5137 3 года назад +9

      Because they are brainwashed into thinking that we need White people to survive.

    • @shankaroont4959
      @shankaroont4959 3 года назад +20

      Integration killed the black pride culture, values, and business

    • @Juninzone
      @Juninzone 3 года назад +3

      Martin later on realized his mistake when he said I integrated my people into a burning house. Look up the video called MLK Jr reparations. He doesn't mention that he integrated his people into a burning house in that video, but he definitely understands hypocrisy. When he mentions that white immigrants were getting business grants and land grants, while the government was telling the black man to pull himself up by his bootstraps. His last words was," were going to make the march on Washington to collect what they owe". Towards the end of his life, he understoodthat social desegregation isn't anything without economic desegregation. Black folks only got social desegregation and not economic desegregation. That is what exactly went wrong with integration.

    • @mazscsu
      @mazscsu 3 года назад +2

      When you’re separate, you’re unequal by default. There’s no way to have equality when resources are separated. Why should Americans be separated and why would Americans want that. Sounds like they don’t feel one side is American.

    • @Meng776
      @Meng776 3 года назад +5

      @@mazscsu But when the masses aren't interested in equality, there's no way to force them to do so. In that case, separate may be a safer way to live.

  • @peternicholson2504
    @peternicholson2504 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for showing this film. Always good to hear people who were personally involved speak.

  • @davidanderson6055
    @davidanderson6055 2 года назад +21

    I've read books by Thomas Sowell where he talks about the corruption of black principals in many black schools and the degeneration of black schools during this time. This goes right in line with things he wrote about.

  • @levinb1
    @levinb1 5 лет назад +37

    As a teacher, this is both sad but also not surprising.

  • @sheruns8579
    @sheruns8579 4 года назад +7

    As a teacher all I have to say is no matter how things change...

  • @ddkz9
    @ddkz9 5 лет назад +8

    First! Yet another great and informative video David. Thanks.

  • @MerynCadell
    @MerynCadell 5 лет назад +6

    Riveting interview subject. I would love to hear more from him if you have more clips. Thanks as always for your unique contributions.

    • @Meng776
      @Meng776 4 года назад +1

      Just go up to any old black person and talk to them.

  • @zackeriah87
    @zackeriah87 5 лет назад +20

    Real talk, I want those glasses...

  • @Jameel159
    @Jameel159 4 года назад +8

    And it hasn't changed a bit on 2020

  • @subhanamjad8787
    @subhanamjad8787 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video David. Anytime I search for things in the past, without the intention of landing on your channel, you always have the right video I need with the insights I was looking for.

  • @POTSOJ
    @POTSOJ 4 года назад +24

    It didn't even have to be equal it could of been separate but 30% equal and they didn't have to worry about ever seeing another black person ever again because we didn't want to be around them as zealously as they didn't want to be around us it's just that we were systematicly starved of resources,I was bussed out to white schools and I can honestly say I didn't get anything far and away different than at black schools except the white girls were more laid back so it was not as complicated expressing my teenage hormones.

    • @NotShowingOff
      @NotShowingOff 3 года назад +6

      The problem comes when you start speaking for all blacks, and a white bigot starts speaking for all whites.

    • @GARY84ROCKS
      @GARY84ROCKS 3 года назад +2

      Those same white girls are now anchored to adult life.. most of them are "Karens"... while proud to have dated Blacks in the 60s, and proud to speak on behalf of Blacks in 2021, actually harbor a segregated mindset that peeks out every so often... they are very protective of what they believe to be a life they've carved out for themselves... and it causes them to react questionably sometimes even harmfully toward Black people... and it seldom means you'll find them reaching out to Black communities with any aid more than words and a vote against those mean Republicans.

    • @tinydancer8485
      @tinydancer8485 2 года назад

      Whyte women are conditioned to where themselves out hence tge integration. It lead to downfall of blk community. Men failed to gatekeep their seed

  • @larmal98
    @larmal98 3 года назад +11

    Integration put us on a path to destruction

    • @marisutton334
      @marisutton334 3 года назад +3

      Iarmal98 indeed it did.

    • @shankaroont4959
      @shankaroont4959 3 года назад +4

      💯

    • @hesedken
      @hesedken Год назад

      Rebellion against post-Babel divine segregation: Separation, also known as a political feature of “Jim Crow” law was a wonderful thing. However, many blacks even though they had families with two parents and a male parent financially supporting the children, and the children enjoying sports and other activities, were dissuaded from prosperity and separation by the NWO existentialists and demonic elite against the homogeneity/separation theme of the whites. During the pre-Luxury Rights/Civil Rights era, whites and blacks prospered. They had peace, safe neighborhoods, employment, prosperity, world respect and admiration. The virtue of working and raising a family had not been destroyed.

    • @timstanford995
      @timstanford995 Год назад

      @@hesedken Anti racist is merely a code word for anti whitey

  • @talos2373
    @talos2373 Год назад

    My earliest recollections of 1st grade was looking so forward to finally seeing the books that I had seen my older siblings bring home. Much to my dismay we were issued brand new books with different illustrations. We had entered what was to be the last four years of prayer and allegiance to the flag in school. New ways had come but our teachers remained the same though somewhat concerned for us.

  • @josephhuether1184
    @josephhuether1184 2 года назад +1

    Despicable horror story.
    That said, kudos to this man.
    I don’t know what he did professionally but he clearly received an “education” somewhere along the line. Sound a lot like my own late father who received an excellent NY City parochial school education in the 1920s - early 1930s.

  • @9doggie12
    @9doggie12 Год назад +1

    The best people to teach black children is strong black males. Change my mind

  • @paulvalentine4157
    @paulvalentine4157 5 лет назад +16

    Still separate, still unequal. Go check out the gold star state CA. Minorities 30%-50% achievement gap. Classes are separate, students are separate, schools are integrated. Drive 5 miles from San Jose to Cupertino, see the difference.

    • @thecraplordsell4575
      @thecraplordsell4575 4 года назад +2

      We are not separated or unequal lol

    • @Angels1168
      @Angels1168 3 года назад +2

      Also no is seperated or oppressed. That is a false reteric.

    • @dudeguy818
      @dudeguy818 Год назад

      There are separate classes because enough black people have demanded them that they have given what they demanded

    • @drwalka10
      @drwalka10 Месяц назад

      separate by choice

    • @drwalka10
      @drwalka10 Месяц назад

      @@thecraplordsell4575 yet u stay in this country ? Why

  • @fairygurl9269
    @fairygurl9269 2 года назад +2

    Sadly it was the same in our School District even after Desegregation.
    The Magnet School Grant and Funding I think made a very positive difference.
    But only cause more white parents were wanting thier kids to have access to these advanced studies and they had to Clean up.
    And I understand what hes saying about how even some of the Colored Adminstration was projecting thier own Pain angerily likely developed narcissism in order to Survive thier own developemental distress.
    Then there were Some that were so beautifully Compassionate too!♡
    I Had wonderful Arts, Math and Science instructors that I still feel much Gratefulness for to this very day who existed in our system.
    Coming from a chaotic home environment, they felt like my safe place at the time, besides high up in a tree where no one could git me
    Until our baby bro started following us up them.
    Made me scared Cause at the Time he was less agile, but gonna prove he could too LoL
    I almost janked myself up bad catching him mid fall ended up getting him to a safe branch before I took the fall on his behalf throwing my own balance off, but lucklily I just got pine tree burn and didnt Bust myself to Smitherines or Die LoL
    The tree we Climbed was so tall you had to climb a shorter tree to get to the first climbable branch. It swayed at the top and you could see for a cpl miles in all directions.

  • @howielisnoff
    @howielisnoff 4 года назад +8

    Great interview, but separate but equal always means that some kids will always be kept from the benefit of interacting with other classmates who have different experiences that may enhance the educational experiences of other kids. The great tragedy of education in the US today is that schools are more segregated than they were following the implementation of Brown v. Board of Education.

    • @willpower3317
      @willpower3317 3 года назад +3

      What exactly are the benefits of interacting with classmates who have different experiences, and how has that ever been measured? I'm not in favor of de jure segregation, but I don't understand what the benefits of forced diversity are.

    • @melodysafo5437
      @melodysafo5437 2 года назад

      @@Tvyasa how is it better

  • @chunkycheese73
    @chunkycheese73 2 года назад +1

    The idea of separate but equal seems like it prepared people esp minorities for communism. The idea of people all having equal things is not a capitalist idea. People being born equal, then what they do with their life makes them better or worse. If someone is doing well or a school has better stuff than yours, that's life. I came from a small poor town, with very little in our schools

  • @shafiabdul3200
    @shafiabdul3200 3 года назад +2

    they comment and they say with the own mouth

  • @fazbell
    @fazbell 2 года назад

    Another sad offshoot of Jim Crow and segregation. It must have been very rough being a teacher or a Principal in the fifties,

  • @heavenstomurgatroyd7033
    @heavenstomurgatroyd7033 5 лет назад +23

    I grew up poor in a rural Midwestern area. I remember mandatory bussing in the 60's. I had good friends who were from inner city neighborhoods that were for all intents a different planet than mine. I think it was good for all of us because it opened my mind. My wonder is why are there no large pockets of successful people of color in business? I'm a Native American, I have had a successful career as an Engineer yet at every company I ever worked for I was one of the few people of color. Yes I worked for huge companies (Standard Oil) and small aerospace companies and retired from a small Ca. city. Most of my peers over 40 years were white. If a pathetic guy like me can become functional why can't everyone?
    I have designed and patented things you have used, how cool is that?

    • @heavenstomurgatroyd7033
      @heavenstomurgatroyd7033 5 лет назад +2

      h3nry6556 part of my post was rhetoric trying to make people think and discuss it. I have a good idea why I worked my ass off....

    • @justjules2029
      @justjules2029 4 года назад +4

      Heavens to Murgatroyd. 👈🏽$5 Indian

    • @fishheadlemonsnack824
      @fishheadlemonsnack824 4 года назад +2

      @@justjules2029 Did I miss something or did you just say something really stupid and offensive?

    • @marisutton334
      @marisutton334 3 года назад +2

      @@justjules2029 Ikr.

    • @SpiritMover314
      @SpiritMover314 3 года назад +4

      @ Heavens to Murgatroyd......We (black people) know all about hard work (at least I do). In most cases we have to work harder than other ethnicities for the same wage or less. You're Native American bro.....You were /are protected, and you wonder what happened to black people???? Stop it with the FAKE nonsense....LOL.

  • @NotShowingOff
    @NotShowingOff 3 года назад +3

    The man is struggling with a contradiction. If two things have equal demands how can they be separate? Why separate them? It’s because the “separation” is easy to enforce. But the equality isn’t.

    • @NotShowingOff
      @NotShowingOff 2 года назад

      @Beaverish Buck Teeth forcing ppl to live apart is just as awful. Ppl can choose individually not to live with each other. Govt force is unnecessary

  • @timothylines3867
    @timothylines3867 5 лет назад

    when in the sloth.

  • @ericperry1509
    @ericperry1509 3 года назад +4

    This place is crumbling under our feet because of the atrocities of the past. No one knows the day or the hour. But this place will fall