James Jackson Sacramento He/Him must have had a point of personal privilege before the debate began to ensure the chatter and whispering was kept to a minimum cos he’s one of those people prone to sensory overload and it makes it hard for him to focus. A true American hero
In all these videos/debates, White students ALWAYS represent South Africa. This is a country that had more Blacks than Whites yet always represented by whites. That says it all; blacks where never given a chance in that country.
At the time Apartheid was in full swing. Priority was given to whites. There was no way the Union of South Africa prior to 1991 would send a Black person to study overseas.
But, it was the Haitians, Afro-descendants from the Caribbean, who were the first defenders of Africa. Read at the Gallica Libraire de France, Antenor Firmin's response to Count of Gobineau, Of the Equality of the Human Races. Firmin was the only black person at the Anthropological Society of Paris in the 1890's defending Africans against white supremacy. Of course, we blacks always reinvent the wheel because we are not united. I am glad to have come across this video to see these excellent young Africans. But, it started with Haiti because they were the first black republic-- 1804. Thus, Haiti produced "luminaries" as Victor Hugo mentioned. They were the first defenders of black freedom. Africans/black nations should have an organization to find lost/forgotten black literature so that we can all showcase black excellence in Africa as well as in the diaspora.
@@princegcash2915 That is true- but you are missing one point which is that the identity of African didn't exist to Africans as it was not a label they chose for them selves.
ok... free to genocide farmers? he repeats the same question and doesn't seem to understand that the SA dude will never give him the answer he wants since his idea of what is reality in South Africa is biased. Anyway, you seem to have a prejudice against whites, do you ever wonder if they are not jews pretending to be white? Because they are not!
@@maitres-chez-nous5609 Strange how whites accuse Africans of being prejudice after being welcomed as guests and then stealing the entire continent. Do you not know history?? I think white Ppl have an unnatural arrogance and self-righteousness they refuse to confront.
Why does it feel like we've regressed as a society? Why cant we have honest and vulnerable conversations like this? Especially with how well spoken they are.
It’s the media. Mainly right wing media because they lie, fear monger and demonize marginalized groups. Have you ever tried to have a good faith conversation with a diehard trump supporter? Fucking impossible lol. Soup brain 🫠
The reason is these days you can't open up about any issues without being labelled a way cist just as for instance RUclips would shadow ban this comment had I written the actual word that I just circumvented. Everything is looked down upon due to historical events and incorrect association but if people could actually sit down with an open mind they would be much more understanding but it's hard to be realistic when things are taken personally due to subjective bias (in a overall population sense). For those reasons the key elements in these cases such as overall progression are almost always overlooked and it's that selfish "I want my skin tone to do most things" mentality and lack of deeper understanding that is root of all problems. When we can learn to think collectively and reasonably that's when we benefit the most, perhaps for most people in this specific scenario that can only be achieved if the representatives were mixed race though I suppose even that ultimate fairness still wouldn't cater to everyone.
We do still do, they just dont get as much views. Whats changed is peoples interest. Dramatic garbage gets more clicks, views so more chances you will see those.
the world and mainly the US has gone downhill since the early 2000's, I 100% blame the Bush administration and the rise of all these propaganda news outlets like Fox News, it was their goal to basically screw up the kind of progress we made in the last 1/2 of the 20th century
I think their honesty about their own prejudices is incredible. These dudes aren’t trying to sound as good as possible, they’re trying to express themselves
These guys were so informed even without the internet. I could only have debates like these in university, it's crazy that these are high school students.
@@rjburras9306 there are no more expectations of class and decorum...I was just watching a sportscaster who mispronounced every other word (ekspecially ?)...you are 100 percent right about the control aspect...pretty evident when every mound of shit the government shovels at us today people just open up and eat it....I also find it funny how people felt the internet or technology would make the government more transparent and level the playing field...it actually has done the opposite , and it has enabled them to exert control easier than ever before. ...next up even our thoughts will be tracked
Too easy for what? He legitimately believed that apartheid was for the common good of all South Africans. He was probably taught every argument for it and just like growing up in a cult he had no idea how wrong he was. I think many of us have been trained to attack people we disagree with and focus on minor differences. This is how we make enemies of potential allies. This is how "they" divide and conquer us. This guy is not the enemy he is just ignorant.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 the tricky part is, he doesn't acknowledge being wrong when met with facts, and even goes so far to lie! The responses and body language by them all towards the south african when he blatantly denies the wrongdoings. Im not here for the "I'm ignorant pity party" especially when they all appear to have the access to be educated.
In Ghana ,Muslims and Christians live together in peace. I’m a Christian but almost all my friends are Muslims and we eat together. You won’t know the difference between a Christian and a Muslim in Ghana My grandmother is a Muslim,We respect her choice and freedom of worship. They are just religions
In Nigeria its not the same. There is huge difference between the Christian South and the Muslim North. And most times this 2 do not agree. Its a sad situation that has persisted till this day. Believe me if a Southern Christian was there and that Northern Nigerian guy said what he said there would have been a royal rumble.
The Nigerian issue is more of ethnicity and is skewed along religious lines.It has actually blurred the line between religion and ethnicity.For there are people who profess either Islam or Christianity in almost all the ethnic groups in Nigeria..
Ghanaian Christians and Muslims are living in peace and harmony because the Muslims are in minority. Wait until their population grows and they manage to get political power. Look at how Nigeria and recently Ethiopia is turning out
I'm so impressed with the quality of debate of this era. Their confidence, intelligence, eloquence and depth of thought pattern considering the fact that this is a high school debate. They will conveniently match a college debate of today. So proud of the Ghanian, rooting for him...
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US.
mostly because people are still acting as if hate speech and human rights should still be up for debate and that they deserve to actually have their words listened to
@@SCUM_ how do you know what people are saying without listening to them? how do you know what they're saying without listening first? it's simple dehumanization and stooping to their level.
It's because of anti-theism and irreligion. The simple fact is that as they all started off saying, most of their prejudices were against religious groups. So most religious groups especially Islam and Christianity are not also ethnic groups meaning that prejudice isn't as simple as racism or fat phobia. It's not necessarily visual. Also people of different faiths are used to arguing with each other and basing arguments on scripture and history. In order to have a religion, realistically one has to constantly be thinking and questioning one's own understanding. That's why there are so many different interpretations of God and so many different religions and so many different denominations within those religions. Constant questioning. Now people think that claiming to be an atheist makes one an intellectual and most want to argue what they think is science but in fact just parrot misunderstood quotes from articles that already confirmed their bias. Atheism is regressive though and I think that should be obvious. I mean do animals have religion? All culture comes from religion. That's not even an opinion. It's an archaeological fact. I'm not saying that evil things haven't been done in the name of religion btw, or course they have. My own abusive mother uses the bible to try to maintain dominance. I'm simply saying that being anti-religious is anti-intellectual and regressive. I mean I think the correlation between lack of religion and the level of intelligence degrading is pretty clear. We have the highest level of education and access to education ever and yet people are the most imbecilic now. They're also the most irreligious and that is degrading culture, mental health and IQ. *In my opinion*
@@SCUM_ why should anyone be listening to you then? Not allowing certain people to speak is a violation of their rights, why can you do it but not others. Are you just that holier than thou to believe that you're always correct no matter the circumstance? People had your mentality for all of history, which is why it took so long for social progress. It's easier to not listen to someone when you think you're better than them ( like when white people believed they were better than black people and never listened to them in the past until the late 60s)
Hilarious that people living through the apartheid era could sit down and have a more civil and polite political discussion than your average person in 2022
It seems consistent with the idea of citizens of warring lands being on their guard and even bulking up to fight in said wars. These kids just bulked up in brains not bodies.
The most shocking thing amongst others is just how articulate and well spoken these HIGHSCHOOLERS are, sad to see how far we've digressed in that particular area.
To be fair, there were inarticulate highscholars in that era just as much as there still exist articulate highschoolers now. I highly doubt they would have put "average" highschoolers on television back then. These are likely the students who were considered the most articulate and have had debate training.
We have about 1300 kids in our high school in Toronto (from just about every country you can imagine). Honestly, I could pretty easily find four students that could hold their own in a debate like this: a lot of teenagers today are well-informed, articulate and are excellent critical thinkers. This debate is fascinating, but I assure you these weren't four teens plucked at random from a high school.
Ever watch the Burnie Sanders video of him randomly questioning 2 "punk" kids in a California mall back in the 80s ? It's eye opening. What we have is pockets. High quality schools make good students, yet many will have behavior issues unheard of then. Also our bad schools allow vast amounts of really poor quality of people to pass through. Kids are maybe more "harder" they've seen dismemberment movies like Saw. They are hyper sexualized, hyper political, but I doubt they actually know things. They parrot an awfully lot. I haven't met a youth in a long time that actually knew things from first hand.
Not just high schoolers. EVERYONE was more well spoken. These days everyone says uh UhHhH uh every other word and can’t articulate themselves enough to convey their thoughts and feelings
According to a text from 2021, Alfred Bannerman (the young gentleman representing Gold Coast) went on to become a Professor of Neurology at Columbia University, NY, and Director, Neurology, at Jamaica Hospital Center, Queens, NY. Dr. Bannerman spent most of his adult life in the US, but is now retired, living the life of a country gentleman in the rural hills of Aburi, Ghana (former Gold Coast).
I watched that of Boniface Effojaka, and I was so proud of being a Nigerian, and I saw so many Ghanaians saying that they love him. Now tell me Ghanaians, are you not much more proud now seeing this Super brilliant young Kwame defending me as a Christian in Nigeria and the Entire Africa as my father land. 🙌🏽
Aren't all Africans African first, do you have to use religion to indicate the otherness. We may hold different faiths in Africa but we Africans must united on one motherland Africa, that should be our guiding principle, let's not nationalism and religious Tribalism divide us.
It's been ages since I've heard a healthy debate about any subject. This was very cathartic to me. Of course everyone from that time period or now we're not and are not as eloquent, respectful, and patient and concise as these men, but it was definitely a treat to witness the conversation.
That is a lie Ghana don't have an Africa interest, go and watch the other debate, don't forget Ghana is the first country in Africa to expel all Africans out of their country, Ghana has never done any practical thing for Africa
@@nenitafrica6851 That’s false. But yes we did that...and we never forgave that Government for that. They ruled for 3 years! 3 years! And were thrown out...Read Nkrumah’s letter to Busia detailing that.
@@nenitafrica6851 This is just hate. Ghana contributed funds to almost all other African countries in their struggle. Don’t hate without information. For example, Ghana gave Guinea $10 million for their fight.
100% I thought the same, Boniface would represent Nigeria in the following year, I'm sure Alfred was part of his motivation after listening to his interview a year prior.
Dr Alfred Bannerman formerly a Professor of Neurology at Columbia university. He is now retired ,living the life in Aburi in Ghana.He went to PREMPEH COLLEGE in kumasi
oh wow...he should be around 80 by now or? I wonder what he thinks of our present situation....he really went in....thats how it should go...use their own words against them....the SA guy was not making sense one bit...superiority in his blood...something I think of as a disease...
Do you watch other countries or just this? please Ghana has never spoken for Africa, Ghana is the first country in Africa to practice xenophobia in 1969 and deported all Africans in their country and presently refused any African citizen to do business in their country but allow Chinese and other foreigners
@@nenitafrica6851 ok thanks for your ignorance and misinformation, get to know the laws of Ghana n stop lying on things you know nothing about . Ghana laws says you need to hv a specific capital to trade as a retailer if you don’t have that said capital you can only wholesale as a non Ghanaian. Now because these Chinese and other people can afford they register and trade but what other nationals who don’t have that money does is they don’t wholesale but retail which is illegal if you haven’t registered with the said capital. Don’t misinform people on things you do not know
@@worldformatics Oh law of Ghana but you guys said Ghana is speaking for Africa? why don't you say a discriminately law of Ghana and how do you have such law and still have the impudence to say Ghana is fighting for Africa? how many other African countries have such hateful and discriminately law against their fellow Africans? which European, Asian, American, Arab country have such self-centred law against their own kind? such law is a sign of low self-esteem, and if it were in my country, we the citizen will fight for it to be repelled cuz is a slap and insult to the citizens that they aren't proficient enough to take on challenges, it's absurd how some of you defend evil
@@nenitafrica6851 so because we are speaking for Africa we have to allow the laws of the land to be broken right. I can see you are speaking from a place a place of hatred and ignorance on things you don’t know and don’t want to know but that’s ok. The laws will not be bent for the few, there are 55 countries in Africa and you cannot tell me because we all might have the interest of the continent at heart you don’t have to respect and abide by the laws of each individual country and each country doesn’t have their sole laws , and how is this law discriminatory? Did the law mention any African country that it is targeted at ?
The Ghanian looked down on his own people. He even said that he needed Western ideas to bring up Africa, and yet he can't understand why Bantu in South Africa were not ready to run an entire nation.
@@melvinobianyor4919 Why did Africans sell other Africans to slavery? Why don't you care that Africans were sold into slavery? The world will be fixed, if the Africans that enslaved these Africans and sold them are brought to justice. All humans can understand this. 2022 we are very prosperous around the world, it's time to find out who sold Africans to Europeans.
If everyone could just start off by humbly admitting that they are prejudice, like these guys did, conversations could get MUCH better around difficult topics.
Not only admitting, but also not taking offence and being open and listening to their reasons or perceptions. There is also no belittling or talking over other people. Everyone respects everyone else’s free speech, and lets the person talking say their piece.
You’re right. Humans are an imperfect species just like every other so things like prejudice are completely normal. How you treat people based on your prejudices is different than actually having prejudice. Something that people seem to ignore for some reason.
@@vince11harris yeah but that's a reflection of the people and content that raised them. we're born as blank slates. so if we listen to them (really listen) and explain to them why it's wrong maybe they'll understand it. but if we dismiss their perspective and they get defensive they'll continue to play defense to avoid feeling shame. instead of admitting they're wrong they'll keep pushing to justify they're right. that wall will just keep growing. ask people questions about how and why they feel a certain way and don't counter to win an argument. it's not about winning an argument. this is about making sure people have good values cuz they're gonna raise their kids and grandkids with those values and those people are gonna share the world with our kids and grandkids. it would be wise to help people see why we should respect eachother and you can plant that seed, but not by debating for ego.
Especially the Nigerian fellow. His demeanor and manner of speech is so refined I hard time believing he's younger than I am. He probably had a successful career in business or politics as intelligent as he appears here.
Did anyone else find it weirdly comical in the beginning where they basically went around in a circle naming their prejudices that happened to be against another member of the panel?
I think it is better that discussed prejudiced against each other's country coz atleast they will be enlightened when one defend or explain his country against the prejudice. It will be less informational when they discuss prejudice against countries not included in the group.
It definitely seemed like a forced bit of false equivalence, and a way of trying to make white viewers at the time--it's goddamn 1956--not feel alienated. "Negroes are prejudiced too, so my racism/prejudice isn't so bad." Like... this is a time where we are still called negroes--this is not a trustworthy debate as far as fairness goes on the face of it, it's moreso a display of the times.
@@cheddmt8365 Oh yes I do think that they did rehearse a bit in. The speakers had already gotten to know each other before the debate. But the speakers were also picked specifically for this debate so the organizers wanted people on the panel who had issues with each other.
I am an African American woman who is immensely proud of the brother from Ghana. He and his Ancestors showed up for this exchange. Bravo, Brother. Bravo!
@@j3culture246 Native Americans are Asian ancestry, Whites are European ancestry, shall we call them Asian American, European American etc.... ?? I think you got my point.
@@Bryn_RaschaulThanks God I'm living in central europe and people here do not have such "problems" of live as you have in America. We have real problems.
Am very proud to be a Ghanaian. Prof. Bannerman stood up for the entire Africa continent like our first president, Dr. Kwame Nkrumah. In fact,African's big problem is religion. Bravo! My Ghanaian brother. May you live long 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
Nii, the young man from the Gold Coast (now Ghana), is Dr. Alfred Agyeman Bannerman. He attended Prempeh College (class of 1956). Dr Alfred Agyeman Bannerman is a renowned Neurologist and former Dean of the Columbia Presbyterian Medical School Dept of Neurology in New York. He is now retired and lives part time in Ghana.
As a Nigerian, i must say the Ghanaian teenager understood the assignment.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 The Nigerian teenager lost me the moment he stated his prejudice. So sad!
Why must his prejudice make you sad? Because it is directed towards you? All these men started by stating their prejudices. Those prejudices don't sadden you? Is it because it doesn't affect you? Your statement is the only sad one here. These men were civil enough to honestly state their prejudices instead of hiding them in sublime crevices the way we do today. Honesty is only possible where honesty can be appropriately received. And your attitude sir/madam creates room for deceit.
"Excuse me, I'll just come in there." A much better way to interject politely than just raising your voice and try to talk over someone whose ideas you don't agree with. Kudos to these highschoolers. Informed, articulate, civil.
@@IraQNid being raised in America isnt the issue. The issue is the lost of morals and love and consideration for one another and humility before others
As a black South African I am so triggered by the distorted history presented by this white gentleman. My heart bleeds for my parent’s generation. I am so privileged to be here now but I can’t help but feel both angry and sad when watching this.
They are all intelligent. Wish the Nigerian and Ethiopian had more say, I can tell the Ghanaian is educated and very passionate about the issue( rightly so).
The Ghanian was already in the future! It's amazing to see how matured they all were at the time. The level of education was near perfect compared to now!
I'M ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWN AT THE MATURITY OF THE DISCUSSION! I'M LESS THAN 2 MINUTES IN!!! It's amazing how they communicate try to understand each and where they are coming from.
Well, I think Alfred's submission is more logical and convincing, as well as objective, and that's not exactly what I can say about Boniface's submission, who seemed more critical and unwilling to understand the other side. Alfred here, like Amelia, is my favorite of them. They both make it seem like Ghanaians were more sound than others. They're all brilliant, though. And they show that education has really declined, they are all better, more sound and more intelligent than young/middle age adults of today. And that's sad.
He became a Professor of Surgery at Columbia University until his passing. I went to primary school with one of his sons, Ernest Bannerman in the early 1970s. I wonder what became of Ernest.
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US
@@swidenjil I would agree with you on that in most cases back then & today. However, the moderator is actually a white journalist named Helen Hiett Waller.
After watching the debate where Boniface Offojaka represented Nigeria, and this one where Aboki is representing us, I can see where the problems of Nigeria emerge from.
I don't see nothing wrong with the Ethiopian saying that, because back then the Ethiopians never thought that they were black. My grandmother passed 8 years ago if I said to her she is black? That's would be a very big insult to her. Even now in 2021 if you goes to the remote area in Ethiopia they will never admit that Ethiopia is black,
Ghanaians have always been driven towards pan-africanism from the beginning. Can you imagine this white-privileged south african guy blabbing about the blacks in south africa.
Just imagined Boniface and Bannerman in the same debate, would have been a very objective debate. Interesting and worth applauding; 17 year olds can engage in such intellectual discourse maintaining a high level of objectivity. I dove my hat off to Bannerman and Boniface
Question , where did the so-called white or Caucasian man originally get his education from ? The answer to this will answer a lot of other questions lol
As a Nigerian I’m just soooo proud of the Ghanaian boy. As a Northerner I’m embarrassed and quite frankly ashamed that the same mindset is plaguing us today. Shame on Nigeria
I’’m Ethiopian....love this brother of mine from Gold Coast-Super enlightened. And all of a sudden the interviewer changed the topic from “ One-Africa “ to “ Divided-Africa “...huh
Sure, if you mean how wealth inequality has continued to climb, workers wages have dropped proportional to their productivity, healthcare costs are sky high, the housing market has been infested with landlords, and we still have the same gullible people falling for conspiracy theories and moral panics left and right.
This is the best way to talk about racism, prejudices, and stereotypes that people may have. I love how they say prejudices instead of saying racist. Saying I have prejudices indicates that you know it's wrong or at least suspect it is. And it means you're open to correction. It's not accusatory or implies evil like calling someone a racist. I wish people would still converse like this.
No one would dare to admit the fact they have prejudices. Or they just pretend the prejudices they have aren't actually prejudices and excuse themselves
The only reason they didn't call it racism was because they didn't want to offend the white guy. They can't be racist to each other they're all African. And after hearing the guy get all emotional with them dancing around his clear lunacy to believe they were doing them any favors by using them and ruling over them and like 9 million people just appeared out of thin air when they got there.. yeah they weren't going to have him go into full meltdown mode over that truth. People that stole south African land were the exact definition of racism. Even though they believed the had some care for these people and wanted them to develope and claimed that were working even though they were just using workers while they copied and pasted laws from where they came from to control these people and have them living completely different than they were.
It all starts with an admission and acceptance of the fact that we all have prejudices based on whatever. In American, we like to pretend that prejudices ended in the 1960's when it's a continuing issue to be worked on. Hence, we miss opportunities to discuss and better understand each other.
@@rickpearson7943 yes but no. Racism is more of a systemic system put in place to impress people based race. Prejudice is to prejudge someone based on a narrative or ignorance without experience or facts. I can understand what your saying though but there is imo a slight difference.
@Antoinette Hunter It’s a fact! Most Ghanaians in those days had the chance to study law and other professions abroad. It’s a big worry Ghana is where it is today!
We can have these debates. Most white (including those who act white) will not want to hear it. So you just have to dress it up in a way that tricks them. For example, if you are in a Pro-Trump crowd talk about ending outsourcing and the wars. If you are in an Any Blue Will Do crowd than talk about police brutality and raising the minimum wage. Each of these conversations will inevitably lead to race and this way makes it more palatable for Euro-centric folks.
@@Dahlen4Dummies brown and black People have prejudice too. It’s ignorant and disconnected to think this is a ONE race problem....this is a behavioral problem of humanity!! Your comment (“most white people”is an example of prejudice itself. Time to be accountable men vs dividing and assuming you are superior/inferior
@@Ooooozer321 in the (US), this isn’t really our history or business, unless u have ancestry from the countries represented in the video and even still it isn’t The (US) history
I don't agree with you on this issue because from all Black people on this planet this history is very important very sentimental into understanding where we came from. because this video is an illustration of how the most extreme version of Jim crow was applied to humans and how the the beneficiaries of that system justified it. We in the rest of the world analyze the history of the United States and even though your government doesn't promote it, it is your duty as a human being to understand other problems within the society that we live in globally so that you might be the next person that might contribute to the solving of the issues in an indirect form not even related to politics inorder to solve the issues and understand the people and human beings on the planet. If you are a self described "African-American" you are as much as an African as me. so this notion that the issues on the mother continent is completely divorced from you then that Notion is completely false because that illustrates an individual that doesn't understand where they came from and will definitely be lost with in the future. not trying to insult you but you have to understand that fact and this applies to all humans. doesn't matter if you're black or not because all humans come from Africa
We could never have debates like this in high school nowadays and it'd be this relaxed. I only graduated a couple months ago, but I'll never forget how childish my last class mates were. It's like they never left middle school.
What you see here are the cream of the crop that have been chosen to sit and debate here. Even back then this type of discourse was difficult to have with just anyone.
Very true! But this is a cultural thing as well. There are many cultures (sadly not typical modern American) where debate is taught in the schools. It's a skill that's taught from elementary. It used to be taught in American schools. I came through in the late 90s and mid 2000s and I caught the tail end of it. Starting in 3rd grade into middle school, we would regularly sit in circles and learn how to take turns discussing topics. The teacher would moderate. As we got older, we would begin to debate. This skill helped me SO much. I can present arguments and points without being angry that the other person doesn't agree and I can question them to try to see things from their side. I'm a teacher now. We must teach to the state test. The state test is a multiple-choice bubble test. We don't even have writing tests anymore. So, we are forced to teach only the standards that teach students to break down text to find themes, main ideas and make predictions. We don't teach composition, cursive, debate, or creative writing anymore. Well I DO, but I have to slip it in and when students have not mastered the "tested skills", I have to spent time reviewing those instead. It's very boring for the children and for the teacher.
@@HadassaMoon144 I relate to you 100% … I teach in Atlanta, GA and having to teach state standards is rather mindless at this point. There in no creativity, but like you-I sneak in pertinent skills and information that they need when I can
This is really precious 🥺 The level of honor and respect they have even as they verbally express their differences and disagreements. Wow. Unconditional honor towards other humans no matter what they believe. Imagine that.
Sorry but "honor" is the wrong word. They clearly did not hold the guy with apartheid beliefs as "honorable", but they could give him respect as a fellow human being.
I'm a South African and I have so much respect for the Ghanaian speaker - so intelligent and articulate. One thing I admire about those days is people's maturity to be so open about their prejudices and handling such sensitive topics well.
but all the assumptions of how the whites would be treated by the bantu is true. delete the boer song, delete the farmer. the arguments sound right, and the reality is entirely wrong
Oh yeah? I was impressed by both of them. Asides the our ever in going battle for Jollof rice lol, Nigerians and Ghanians definitely rep Africa. Our (Ghanians & Nigerians) confidence, intellect and self awareness is just unbeatable.
As an international student trying to master English I find quite interesting seeing people from the past speaking fluently and being this articulate. Nowadays we have internet and translation apps, they didn't and look at them. ADMIRABLE!
I absolutely love this. As an American with strong roots in Ghana, this man makes me proud. So astute and so proud. He was ahead of his time. He wouldn't have known about the year of return 60 years later. So informative.
@Clean corvette I know for a fact you’re not interested in ending it. You white people who become so offended by black people calling you on your bullshit, never cease to amaze me. The Ghanaian presented facts and you’re here hating on him. Yeah, you’re not interested in hearing the problem because you know you’re the problem.
Very true yes but ethiopia was never colonised n the 1st free africans where in the country of haiti where they defeated the French n fight 4 freedom spread Jamaica other Islands on the carribean. Kwame Nkrumah trained under the guidance of Marcus Garvey in the USA n returned to Ghana an fought 4 Ghanaian freedom. N he carried on Marcus Garveys ideas of 1 free united africa 4 all africans worldwide
I’m an Ethiopian and I’m so proud of the Gold Coast (Ghana) man. Where was this video when we were in high school or even college????!!! Respect to all of them.
@@daredevil1189: That is exactly the reason and he repeated that statement several times. The history from the colonial masters or invaders was written to make the Blacks/Africans remain as slaves mentally and to make us feel inferior to them. Even our African believe system was degraded.
This is amazing, in a time with no Internet and high levels of prejudice, these high schoolers from different backgrounds were able to have constructive dialogue. Very impressive.
Where are they now? ruclips.net/video/0ynRwRg6POc/видео.html
Where is that white guys grave. I want to go wake him up. He calls black people 'they.' 😂🤣😂
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Imagine if maggots hated each other because they were different colours. Even though they’re still maggots.
No clapping from an audience allows each student to express themselves and explore ideas instead of trying to score points with the crowd. Love it
Love this comment, couldn't agree more.
I definitely think the last part of what u said about trying to score points is a big problem we have in todays time.
They say right - left . At the end of the day everyone just want to argue and be right
James Jackson Sacramento He/Him must have had a point of personal privilege before the debate began to ensure the chatter and whispering was kept to a minimum cos he’s one of those people prone to sensory overload and it makes it hard for him to focus. A true American hero
Best part is, the Audience's absence was not a result of COVID 😌
In all these videos/debates, White students ALWAYS represent South Africa. This is a country that had more Blacks than Whites yet always represented by whites.
That says it all; blacks where never given a chance in that country.
At the time Apartheid was in full swing. Priority was given to whites. There was no way the Union of South Africa prior to 1991 would send a Black person to study overseas.
I guess the white are in power as S.A as at the time of the debate.
Hi Summer....!
Sister summer say it Louder so that those in the back can hear you!!! Big facts 💯!!
True, blacks were not given a chance then but in 1991 they did get all the chances to prove their worth, ANC and Zuma disappointed
Ghanaians been defending africa from day one, true pan africanism.
Don't forget the role of Liberia in the independence of African countries.
But, it was the Haitians, Afro-descendants from the Caribbean, who were the first defenders of Africa. Read at the Gallica Libraire de France, Antenor Firmin's response to Count of Gobineau, Of the Equality of the Human Races. Firmin was the only black person at the Anthropological Society of Paris in the 1890's defending Africans against white supremacy. Of course, we blacks always reinvent the wheel because we are not united. I am glad to have come across this video to see these excellent young Africans. But, it started with Haiti because they were the first black republic-- 1804. Thus, Haiti produced "luminaries" as Victor Hugo mentioned. They were the first defenders of black freedom. Africans/black nations should have an organization to find lost/forgotten black literature so that we can all showcase black excellence in Africa as well as in the diaspora.
Ghana is king.
@@princegcash2915 That is true- but you are missing one point which is that the identity of African didn't exist to Africans as it was not a label they chose for them selves.
Ohemaa AnG yes that is very true the scramble for Africa brought about that so,Africa is one.
The Ghanaian brother made us proud. That’s because of guys like him we are free now. Mad respect.
You’re not free. Your country is a child of Europe. Your history and culture was stolen so you could adopt the new way
ok... free to genocide farmers? he repeats the same question and doesn't seem to understand that the SA dude will never give him the answer he wants since his idea of what is reality in South Africa is biased. Anyway, you seem to have a prejudice against whites, do you ever wonder if they are not jews pretending to be white? Because they are not!
@@maitres-chez-nous5609 Strange how whites accuse Africans of being prejudice after being welcomed as guests and then stealing the entire continent. Do you not know history?? I think white Ppl have an unnatural arrogance and self-righteousness they refuse to confront.
Are we free?? Really??
@@trudyjose9978 more often captive of your own victim narrative than true oppression
Why does it feel like we've regressed as a society? Why cant we have honest and vulnerable conversations like this? Especially with how well spoken they are.
Because people aren’t as “tolerant” as they claim to be.
It’s the media. Mainly right wing media because they lie, fear monger and demonize marginalized groups. Have you ever tried to have a good faith conversation with a diehard trump supporter? Fucking impossible lol. Soup brain 🫠
The reason is these days you can't open up about any issues without being labelled a way cist just as for instance RUclips would shadow ban this comment had I written the actual word that I just circumvented. Everything is looked down upon due to historical events and incorrect association but if people could actually sit down with an open mind they would be much more understanding but it's hard to be realistic when things are taken personally due to subjective bias (in a overall population sense). For those reasons the key elements in these cases such as overall progression are almost always overlooked and it's that selfish "I want my skin tone to do most things" mentality and lack of deeper understanding that is root of all problems.
When we can learn to think collectively and reasonably that's when we benefit the most, perhaps for most people in this specific scenario that can only be achieved if the representatives were mixed race though I suppose even that ultimate fairness still wouldn't cater to everyone.
We do still do, they just dont get as much views. Whats changed is peoples interest. Dramatic garbage gets more clicks, views so more chances you will see those.
the world and mainly the US has gone downhill since the early 2000's, I 100% blame the Bush administration and the rise of all these propaganda news outlets like Fox News, it was their goal to basically screw up the kind of progress we made in the last 1/2 of the 20th century
I think their honesty about their own prejudices is incredible. These dudes aren’t trying to sound as good as possible, they’re trying to express themselves
Yes, I wonder where they are today.
@@nkilisudah8269 This was in 1956 their in their late 80's or early 90's or maybe not alive today.
@@johnstephanos1128 assuming they're all 18 here, that would make them all about 83 now. Wow.
That is what I like most about these videos. No one is trying to make themselves look good or bad, just being honest.
People were real and unemotional back in those days.
These guys were so informed even without the internet. I could only have debates like these in university, it's crazy that these are high school students.
HS kids were like this up until about 20 years ago. Ironically around the time the internet started blowing up
They don't make them like this that's for sure.
@@Anchor7 not true… high school kids back in the early 2000s were like this too..
@@nateclipps Agreed thats why I said about 20 years ago, but that was the beginning of the downfall.
Shows you how serious we were about our minds & what was humanely right & wrong.
If you are commenting from 2024 gather here ,this guys were so informed than we now who has internet ,I love this
The South African guy showed me what a brainwashed person by propaganda looks like.
they speak and debate their points clearer than our adult politicians of today
They are dumbing us down so that it is easier to control us.
@@rjburras9306 there are no more expectations of class and decorum...I was just watching a sportscaster who mispronounced every other word (ekspecially ?)...you are 100 percent right about the control aspect...pretty evident when every mound of shit the government shovels at us today people just open up and eat it....I also find it funny how people felt the internet or technology would make the government more transparent and level the playing field...it actually has done the opposite , and it has enabled them to exert control easier than ever before. ...next up even our thoughts will be tracked
@@michaelfrazia4569 💯%
Yes.
I agree with you. They debate much much better.🤣🤣🤣
The Ghanian is literally enjoying himself because the south African makes it too easy.
Right😂😂😂
Too easy for what? He legitimately believed that apartheid was for the common good of all South Africans. He was probably taught every argument for it and just like growing up in a cult he had no idea how wrong he was. I think many of us have been trained to attack people we disagree with and focus on minor differences. This is how we make enemies of potential allies. This is how "they" divide and conquer us. This guy is not the enemy he is just ignorant.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 really sad and infuriating..
@@stevenygabbyperez695 the tricky part is, he doesn't acknowledge being wrong when met with facts, and even goes so far to lie! The responses and body language by them all towards the south african when he blatantly denies the wrongdoings. Im not here for the "I'm ignorant pity party" especially when they all appear to have the access to be educated.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 youre a crazy vendido sell out he knew he was wrong but his ego he is no ally he doesnt see you as a fellow human
In Ghana ,Muslims and Christians live together in peace. I’m a Christian but almost all my friends are Muslims and we eat together.
You won’t know the difference between a Christian and a Muslim in Ghana
My grandmother is a Muslim,We respect her choice and freedom of worship.
They are just religions
In Nigeria its not the same. There is huge difference between the Christian South and the Muslim North. And most times this 2 do not agree. Its a sad situation that has persisted till this day. Believe me if a Southern Christian was there and that Northern Nigerian guy said what he said there would have been a royal rumble.
so true
In Nigeria not possible in the majority Muslim Northern.
The Nigerian issue is more of ethnicity and is skewed along religious lines.It has actually blurred the line between religion and ethnicity.For there are people who profess either Islam or Christianity in almost all the ethnic groups in Nigeria..
Ghanaian Christians and Muslims are living in peace and harmony because the Muslims are in minority. Wait until their population grows and they manage to get political power. Look at how Nigeria and recently Ethiopia is turning out
I'm so impressed with the quality of debate of this era. Their confidence, intelligence, eloquence and depth of thought pattern considering the fact that this is a high school debate. They will conveniently match a college debate of today. So proud of the Ghanian, rooting for him...
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US.
Unbelievable how everyone lets each other speak and just listens. How did we forget how to have debates like this?
the internet plays a big part.
mostly because people are still acting as if hate speech and human rights should still be up for debate and that they deserve to actually have their words listened to
@@SCUM_ how do you know what people are saying without listening to them? how do you know what they're saying without listening first? it's simple dehumanization and stooping to their level.
It's because of anti-theism and irreligion.
The simple fact is that as they all started off saying, most of their prejudices were against religious groups. So most religious groups especially Islam and Christianity are not also ethnic groups meaning that prejudice isn't as simple as racism or fat phobia. It's not necessarily visual.
Also people of different faiths are used to arguing with each other and basing arguments on scripture and history. In order to have a religion, realistically one has to constantly be thinking and questioning one's own understanding. That's why there are so many different interpretations of God and so many different religions and so many different denominations within those religions. Constant questioning.
Now people think that claiming to be an atheist makes one an intellectual and most want to argue what they think is science but in fact just parrot misunderstood quotes from articles that already confirmed their bias.
Atheism is regressive though and I think that should be obvious. I mean do animals have religion? All culture comes from religion. That's not even an opinion. It's an archaeological fact.
I'm not saying that evil things haven't been done in the name of religion btw, or course they have. My own abusive mother uses the bible to try to maintain dominance.
I'm simply saying that being anti-religious is anti-intellectual and regressive. I mean I think the correlation between lack of religion and the level of intelligence degrading is pretty clear. We have the highest level of education and access to education ever and yet people are the most imbecilic now. They're also the most irreligious and that is degrading culture, mental health and IQ.
*In my opinion*
@@SCUM_ why should anyone be listening to you then? Not allowing certain people to speak is a violation of their rights, why can you do it but not others. Are you just that holier than thou to believe that you're always correct no matter the circumstance? People had your mentality for all of history, which is why it took so long for social progress. It's easier to not listen to someone when you think you're better than them ( like when white people believed they were better than black people and never listened to them in the past until the late 60s)
The Ghanaian is so bright no wonder he became a Professor of Neurology in Columbia University and a top Neurologist. 🇬🇭❤️
What's his name?
@@Slayer0010 Prof. Dr. Alfred Bannerman
The Ethiopian also became a pediatrician
Damn these were some real smart folks.
So he left his own people lol
Hilarious that people living through the apartheid era could sit down and have a more civil and polite political discussion than your average person in 2022
It's especially crazy because they hold the exact same racist beliefs and use the same bad rhetoric
They had actual problems, and humility. People today invent shit to fuss about. They're arrogant narcissists.
Crazy how Mandela and the people took back south Africa against the colonist and then gave it right back how pathetic
It seems consistent with the idea of citizens of warring lands being on their guard and even bulking up to fight in said wars. These kids just bulked up in brains not bodies.
@@staystreamin7864 gave it back?
The most shocking thing amongst others is just how articulate and well spoken these HIGHSCHOOLERS are, sad to see how far we've digressed in that particular area.
Who's influence on the world made it digress? European?
To be fair, there were inarticulate highscholars in that era just as much as there still exist articulate highschoolers now. I highly doubt they would have put "average" highschoolers on television back then. These are likely the students who were considered the most articulate and have had debate training.
We have about 1300 kids in our high school in Toronto (from just about every country you can imagine). Honestly, I could pretty easily find four students that could hold their own in a debate like this: a lot of teenagers today are well-informed, articulate and are excellent critical thinkers. This debate is fascinating, but I assure you these weren't four teens plucked at random from a high school.
Ever watch the Burnie Sanders video of him randomly questioning 2 "punk" kids in a California mall back in the 80s ? It's eye opening.
What we have is pockets. High quality schools make good students, yet many will have behavior issues unheard of then. Also our bad schools allow vast amounts of really poor quality of people to pass through. Kids are maybe more "harder" they've seen dismemberment movies like Saw. They are hyper sexualized, hyper political, but I doubt they actually know things. They parrot an awfully lot. I haven't met a youth in a long time that actually knew things from first hand.
Not just high schoolers. EVERYONE was more well spoken. These days everyone says uh UhHhH uh every other word and can’t articulate themselves enough to convey their thoughts and feelings
According to a text from 2021, Alfred Bannerman (the young gentleman representing Gold Coast) went on to become a Professor of Neurology at Columbia University, NY, and Director, Neurology, at Jamaica Hospital Center, Queens, NY.
Dr. Bannerman spent most of his adult life in the US, but is now retired, living the life of a country gentleman in the rural hills of Aburi, Ghana (former Gold Coast).
Sounds like a movie 🍿
I think you mean *Dr. Nini Bannerman
So impressive as a young man.
Holy sht, I live right next to the hospital 🏥!!
And now he’s actually a “Nini” as he’s an old man
I watched that of Boniface Effojaka, and I was so proud of being a Nigerian, and I saw so many Ghanaians saying that they love him. Now tell me Ghanaians, are you not much more proud now seeing this Super brilliant young Kwame defending me as a Christian in Nigeria and the Entire Africa as my father land. 🙌🏽
Why not, super duper proud ✌🏽✌🏽
Yes both of them are true SONS of Africa
As a Ghanaian, I'm PROUD 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥
As a Ghanaian, I'm PROUD 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥
Aren't all Africans African first, do you have to use religion to indicate the otherness. We may hold different faiths in Africa but we Africans must united on one motherland Africa, that should be our guiding principle, let's not nationalism and religious Tribalism divide us.
This Ghanaian 🇬🇭 Brother came gun-blazing. 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
All the way from Nigeria 🇳🇬
They better be happy that he and Boniface were not in the same debate. Their brains😍😍😍
@@darkcontinentschild2962 Nah fr...
Ghana been fighting for Africa since day one.
@@darkcontinentschild2962 that would have been a nuclear problem 😁
Yessirrr 🇳🇬🤝🏾🇬🇭❤️
It's been ages since I've heard a healthy debate about any subject. This was very cathartic to me. Of course everyone from that time period or now we're not and are not as eloquent, respectful, and patient and concise as these men, but it was definitely a treat to witness the conversation.
Whenever Ghanaians speak, they also have the entire Africa and the black race at heart.
That is a lie Ghana don't have an Africa interest, go and watch the other debate, don't forget Ghana is the first country in Africa to expel all Africans out of their country, Ghana has never done any practical thing for Africa
@@nenitafrica6851 That’s false. But yes we did that...and we never forgave that Government for that. They ruled for 3 years! 3 years! And were thrown out...Read Nkrumah’s letter to Busia detailing that.
@@nenitafrica6851 This is just hate. Ghana contributed funds to almost all other African countries in their struggle. Don’t hate without information. For example, Ghana gave Guinea $10 million for their fight.
@@G.G.C. you can't do without a lie, Ghana was one of the poorest African countries and where did Ghana get 10million to give!
@@nenitafrica6851 Shame on you. You clearly have no idea of history. At least hate with facts. Liar.
I'm a Nigerian and I'm very proud of the Ghanaian👍
Boniface would have loved sitting with him, they are both great.
same I am Gambian I am very proud of my Ghanaian brother. West Africa is a powerful nations since the Mali Empire
I'm South African and I share your sentiments brother
100% I thought the same, Boniface would represent Nigeria in the following year, I'm sure Alfred was part of his motivation after listening to his interview a year prior.
Nigerian here: also very Proud of West Africa❤️🙏🏽
Abiola Ademolu
If only Boniface was here to represent Nigeria we would have won this round🤨
Dr Alfred Bannerman formerly a Professor of Neurology at Columbia university. He is now retired ,living the life in Aburi in Ghana.He went to PREMPEH COLLEGE in kumasi
oh that's very nice to know I was going through the comments to see if he's still alive. He makes me proud as a Ghanaian
He’s a Snr 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Wow that's nice, I wish him more long life and good health
oh wow...he should be around 80 by now or? I wonder what he thinks of our present situation....he really went in....thats how it should go...use their own words against them....the SA guy was not making sense one bit...superiority in his blood...something I think of as a disease...
Of course...a prempeh college product
Incredible and mature conversation. Try having such a conversation today, it will turn into a whirlwind of emotions.
I tip my hat off to the Ghanaian Dude. Ghana always makes Africa proud. The land of Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah never fails to represent Africa.
Do you watch other countries or just this? please Ghana has never spoken for Africa, Ghana is the first country in Africa to practice xenophobia in 1969 and deported all Africans in their country and presently refused any African citizen to do business in their country but allow Chinese and other foreigners
@@nenitafrica6851 ok thanks for your ignorance and misinformation, get to know the laws of Ghana n stop lying on things you know nothing about . Ghana laws says you need to hv a specific capital to trade as a retailer if you don’t have that said capital you can only wholesale as a non Ghanaian. Now because these Chinese and other people can afford they register and trade but what other nationals who don’t have that money does is they don’t wholesale but retail which is illegal if you haven’t registered with the said capital. Don’t misinform people on things you do not know
@@worldformatics Oh law of Ghana but you guys said Ghana is speaking for Africa? why don't you say a discriminately law of Ghana and how do you have such law and still have the impudence to say Ghana is fighting for Africa? how many other African countries have such hateful and discriminately law against their fellow Africans? which European, Asian, American, Arab country have such self-centred law against their own kind? such law is a sign of low self-esteem, and if it were in my country, we the citizen will fight for it to be repelled cuz is a slap and insult to the citizens that they aren't proficient enough to take on challenges, it's absurd how some of you defend evil
@@nenitafrica6851 so because we are speaking for Africa we have to allow the laws of the land to be broken right. I can see you are speaking from a place a place of hatred and ignorance on things you don’t know and don’t want to know but that’s ok. The laws will not be bent for the few, there are 55 countries in Africa and you cannot tell me because we all might have the interest of the continent at heart you don’t have to respect and abide by the laws of each individual country and each country doesn’t have their sole laws , and how is this law discriminatory? Did the law mention any African country that it is targeted at ?
@@worldformatics What a primitive retort
As a Nigerian, I'm very proud of the Ghanaian. The Ghanian is a true hero.
Yes he did so well he kept the South African on his toes. And the South African was getting angry at him.
The Ghanian looked down on his own people. He even said that he needed Western ideas to bring up Africa, and yet he can't understand why Bantu in South Africa were not ready to run an entire nation.
@@paradigmshift7541 hmmm, where, how did he learn this
@@paradigmshift7541 how can you watch this whole video and yet make the same mistake as the "south african" 60 years later
@@melvinobianyor4919 Why did Africans sell other Africans to slavery? Why don't you care that Africans were sold into slavery?
The world will be fixed, if the Africans that enslaved these Africans and sold them are brought to justice. All humans can understand this. 2022 we are very prosperous around the world, it's time to find out who sold Africans to Europeans.
If everyone could just start off by humbly admitting that they are prejudice, like these guys did, conversations could get MUCH better around difficult topics.
Not only admitting, but also not taking offence and being open and listening to their reasons or perceptions. There is also no belittling or talking over other people. Everyone respects everyone else’s free speech, and lets the person talking say their piece.
You’re right. Humans are an imperfect species just like every other so things like prejudice are completely normal. How you treat people based on your prejudices is different than actually having prejudice. Something that people seem to ignore for some reason.
@@blahblahblah4544 I mean me personally I don’t want to hear why a person is racist when you know that shit is wrong from the start
@@vince11harris yeah but that's a reflection of the people and content that raised them. we're born as blank slates. so if we listen to them (really listen) and explain to them why it's wrong maybe they'll understand it. but if we dismiss their perspective and they get defensive they'll continue to play defense to avoid feeling shame. instead of admitting they're wrong they'll keep pushing to justify they're right. that wall will just keep growing. ask people questions about how and why they feel a certain way and don't counter to win an argument. it's not about winning an argument. this is about making sure people have good values cuz they're gonna raise their kids and grandkids with those values and those people are gonna share the world with our kids and grandkids. it would be wise to help people see why we should respect eachother and you can plant that seed, but not by debating for ego.
Yess everyone has the exact same level of prejudice..
Imagine if we could have honest conversations like this today, 1000% the world would be a better place for it.
Love how the south african is criticising the way the US treated blacks but was completely fine with the way his own nation treated blacks.
Hmmm lol
His finger was pointing right back at him.
Typical
And saying the N word casually
@@smidgemcgee9609 🧢
High schoolers of yesterday have better attitude and etiquette then most of the 30 year olds today
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These are the most highly-educated, wealthy, and privileged children of their time. I doubt the average teen around that time was as eloquent.
And well read !
Especially the Nigerian fellow. His demeanor and manner of speech is so refined I hard time believing he's younger than I am. He probably had a successful career in business or politics as intelligent as he appears here.
True
This kid representing Ghana (Gold Coast ) mindset is definitely one of the reason why we got independence!
The first Sub saharan(black) africans to gain independence🇬🇭
Answer this question for me
He displays the brainwashed mindset of that era. His words are really sad. Listen to him closely.
kids then (1956). they are your ancestors now. lol
You got independence because the british said so.
I really enjoyed this civil discussion. You can learn a lot when there is a common respect to allow each other to speak.
Am a Nigerian but am proud of my Ghana brother,
Yes
What were those marks on his face? is that like tribal scarring?
Gold coast is present day Ivory Coast, I think.
@@datman3416 yes it is. It's mostly common with the tribes in Kogi State and Kwara state.
I'm proud of the Ghanaian man.
Did anyone else find it weirdly comical in the beginning where they basically went around in a circle naming their prejudices that happened to be against another member of the panel?
Yeah. Almost sounded like what they rehearsed before the cameras came on.
I think it is better that discussed prejudiced against each other's country coz atleast they will be enlightened when one defend or explain his country against the prejudice. It will be less informational when they discuss prejudice against countries not included in the group.
Yes, I did.
It definitely seemed like a forced bit of false equivalence, and a way of trying to make white viewers at the time--it's goddamn 1956--not feel alienated. "Negroes are prejudiced too, so my racism/prejudice isn't so bad." Like... this is a time where we are still called negroes--this is not a trustworthy debate as far as fairness goes on the face of it, it's moreso a display of the times.
@@cheddmt8365 Oh yes I do think that they did rehearse a bit in. The speakers had already gotten to know each other before the debate. But the speakers were also picked specifically for this debate so the organizers wanted people on the panel who had issues with each other.
Imagine if this Ghanaian dude was there at the same time as Boniface from Nigeria who came one year later. #massacre!
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
I was thinking the same thing!!!!
That would have been awesome.
RIP Boniface
@@funsho83 rip
What makes this so effective is they know when to speak and when to listen.
I am an African American woman who is immensely proud of the brother from Ghana. He and his Ancestors showed up for this exchange. Bravo, Brother. Bravo!
African American, what does mean, are you African or American or are you live on two different continents ?
@@gromosawsmiay3000 it’s an ethnicity. Not a nationality sperg. I swear every time you dopes see the word you like to play semantics and dumb.
@@gromosawsmiay3000 a person of African Ancestry but born in America
@@j3culture246 Native Americans are Asian ancestry, Whites are European ancestry, shall we call them Asian American, European American etc.... ??
I think you got my point.
@@Bryn_RaschaulThanks God I'm living in central europe and people here do not have such "problems" of live as you have in America. We have real problems.
Am very proud to be a Ghanaian. Prof. Bannerman stood up for the entire Africa continent like our first president, Dr. Kwame Nkrumah. In fact,African's big problem is religion. Bravo! My Ghanaian brother. May you live long 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
Let’s not forget Tribalism
Nii, the young man from the Gold Coast (now Ghana), is Dr. Alfred Agyeman Bannerman. He attended Prempeh College (class of 1956). Dr Alfred Agyeman Bannerman is a renowned Neurologist and former Dean of the Columbia Presbyterian Medical School Dept of Neurology in New York. He is now retired and lives part time in Ghana.
Wow!!
that's so great to know
is he dead the other part?
Ahhh… The good old days when there was respect, class, and hospitality. This was so well done.
Which part of Ghana does he live. I will like to meet him one day if possible, can you link me up with him?
As a Nigerian, i must say the Ghanaian teenager understood the assignment.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The Nigerian teenager lost me the moment he stated his prejudice. So sad!
He said a Christian is not allowed to eat from the same bowl at Muslims 🤣😅
Why must his prejudice make you sad? Because it is directed towards you? All these men started by stating their prejudices. Those prejudices don't sadden you? Is it because it doesn't affect you? Your statement is the only sad one here. These men were civil enough to honestly state their prejudices instead of hiding them in sublime crevices the way we do today. Honesty is only possible where honesty can be appropriately received. And your attitude sir/madam creates room for deceit.
@@lukoadams1995 I totally disagree with you that Northerners have nothing to offer. May your ethnic prejudice not blind you to see humanity in others.
@@0070-y1c 👼🏿 @user-qv4nb6tu6t > Oholibah and Oholah Messing With The Applications of Bambara People By Josiah Henson's Enemies🗯
You just spoke my mind... The religious mindset they have did not start today. So sad!! The Ghanaian guy did a great job 👍.
"Excuse me, I'll just come in there."
A much better way to interject politely than just raising your voice and try to talk over someone whose ideas you don't agree with. Kudos to these highschoolers. Informed, articulate, civil.
Also not raised in America
@@IraQNid being raised in America isnt the issue. The issue is the lost of morals and love and consideration for one another and humility before others
@@IraQNidwhen debatescwere civil and people would take 10-30 seconds to speak uninterrupted
This Northern Nigerian guy gave us a little hint of how long Nigeria have been managing a significant problem. It's long over due🙄
@Lord Mitchell So tell us, how did we get where we are now?
@@obdanny2000 Whitewashing and brainwashing
@@jstreet2852 it's not white washing, but Islamic doctrine.
@@jstreet2852 white as nothing on this, is just the religion crisis.
The Buhari Mindset.
That's what I'll call it
As a black South African I am so triggered by the distorted history presented by this white gentleman. My heart bleeds for my parent’s generation. I am so privileged to be here now but I can’t help but feel both angry and sad when watching this.
Sad
Susan from the other debate brought the same bullish!t, but Boniface shut it down!
Me tooo
White gentleman? You mean BOER.
The fact that he himself mentioned that there is only 3 million of them yet they bring his ass to represent South Africa. Disgusting!!!!
I love the boy from Ghana. He is so grounded with facts. What a shrewd and objective debater.
The young man from Ghana
I am Nigerian but now identify as Ghanaian because of how smart this guy is.
I'm German but now identify as Ghanaian.
Lol Ghanaians are way smarter thn Nigerians. It's just tht Ghanaians are very humbled n Nigerians are more show-offie
@@Franskie266 That's kind of offensive to some, but ok.
Have you watched the next debate on same topic featuring Boniface from Nigeria?
@@inspiredscoop234 no but I will be sure to watch it
They are all intelligent. Wish the Nigerian and Ethiopian had more say, I can tell the Ghanaian is educated and very passionate about the issue( rightly so).
The South African called the Ghanaian home boy 😆😆😂
They are all intelligent…except for the South African.
He’s roughly late 70’s early 80’s he might still be with us
@@omotolatufail 🤣🤣😭
All the Nigerian guy has to say is his hate for Christian.
And then you hear the greatest lie of all......ISLAM IS PEACE.
The Ghanian was already in the future! It's amazing to see how matured they all were at the time. The level of education was near perfect compared to now!
Too intelligent for their age
True, I cry everyday upon realising this, we have ignored quality education. Everyone knows it but we just play dumb 😭😭😭😭
Right now the Ghanaian education system is f**ked up
@@faysalkareem2047 faxx lol
Now everyone is twerking on Instagram, starting OF and doing other depraved shit
I'M ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWN AT THE MATURITY OF THE DISCUSSION! I'M LESS THAN 2 MINUTES IN!!! It's amazing how they communicate try to understand each and where they are coming from.
So proud of this Ghanian rep! Imagine Alfred and Boniface against Susan🤣🤣
😂🤣😂 I swear
It would have been interesting
They would have left her speechless cos already when Boniface was speaking facts she had no points to back her up.
😭😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Susan will cry. Black intelligence is no game.
Well, I think Alfred's submission is more logical and convincing, as well as objective, and that's not exactly what I can say about Boniface's submission, who seemed more critical and unwilling to understand the other side.
Alfred here, like Amelia, is my favorite of them. They both make it seem like Ghanaians were more sound than others.
They're all brilliant, though. And they show that education has really declined, they are all better, more sound and more intelligent than young/middle age adults of today. And that's sad.
As a Nigerian, I duff my hat to the Ghanaian. Much respect. I hope any of his offspring get to watch this video and be proud.
He is sound but has inferiority complex to Western ideals.
Do you mean the brother from the gold coast?
@@oluwoleadunola9074 Yes... and he's self aware enough to know it...
@@bilhas52 yes
He became a Professor of Surgery at Columbia University until his passing. I went to primary school with one of his sons, Ernest Bannerman in the early 1970s. I wonder what became of Ernest.
Its amazing the level of eloquence from the Ghanaian young man. May Africa give birth to many more like him in this techno literate age.
@soHi he was more far more intelligent more than the rest
Including that cave boy
@@sunboy1558 the caveman was an entitled, bumbling idiot.
youre only proud of the ghanian? no one else? the south african kids assumptions about how history would play out is correct. the ghanian thinks that a african american majority would integrate and "save the white mans soul" - 70 years later, majority of crimes are committed by african americans people in the US
Did you not see him interrupting people and not shutting up for 5 seconds to let others talk?
@@youtubesucks1821yeah, because he was cooking hard
The guy from goal coast had the strongest argument and the most charismatic of the bunch. He could have made a good politician
I am so glad the moderator allowed bullets fly. She did not try to ruin the flow.
I think it has something to do with her being a black woman, a yt woman would have tried to sabotage it and save her kind. 💀😂
Violence!!! 😂😂 my guy
You very right
@@swidenjil looool exactly 💯
@@swidenjil I would agree with you on that in most cases back then & today. However, the moderator is actually a white journalist named Helen Hiett Waller.
After watching the debate where Boniface Offojaka represented Nigeria, and this one where Aboki is representing us, I can see where the problems of Nigeria emerge from.
E shock you😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
haaaa lol
Same opinion bro
Laugh wan kill me oo 🤣 🤣
Ethiopian: “I never felt I was a negro until I came to this country”
Ghanaian: “Wha, wha, Why!?”
😂😂😂😂
sadly Emperors of Ethiopia did that. so bad!
I couldn’t stop laughing he genuinely seemed shocked 😂
I don't see nothing wrong with the Ethiopian saying that, because back then the Ethiopians never thought that they were black.
My grandmother passed 8 years ago if I said to her she is black? That's would be a very big insult to her.
Even now in 2021 if you goes to the remote area in Ethiopia they will never admit that Ethiopia is black,
@@messianic_scam
I said " back then "....
@@messianic_scam
...lol
All four are so respectful and honest. Much love. At 26 a lot to learn from these men! Love their perspectives.
Ghanaians have always been driven towards pan-africanism from the beginning. Can you imagine this white-privileged south african guy blabbing about the blacks in south africa.
It’s truly unbelievable this type of wickedness and arrogance. Ghana held this one well.
I'm sure the Nigerians living in Ghana will have a different opinion.
@@jonralph8843 Different opinion about what? Please elaborate
@Last Minute: hmmm!
What about the islamists Northern Nigerian almajiri on Christians? Support #BiafraEXIT #OdudwaEXIT #MiddleBeltEXIT NOW!!
The Ghanaian is making me soo proud. As a South African, I feel soo happy about how well-informed he is.
What about your fellow south African?
@@muhammadnawaz5039 you got jokes my friend 😴
@@lesegomisay8179 😂😂😂😂😂had to laugh
@@lyannamormont298 😂😂😂😂
So now what we get in South Africa killing us robbery our shops 🏬
Just imagined Boniface and Bannerman in the same debate, would have been a very objective debate.
Interesting and worth applauding; 17 year olds can engage in such intellectual discourse maintaining a high level of objectivity.
I dove my hat off to Bannerman and Boniface
Are there more Boniface debates I've been looking but I can't seem to find them
@@ayee382 yh sure there are,
From the same channel
that ghanian boy was something up there, burning with fire and fact practically tearing the discussion apart.
Oh! the Spirit of Dr. Kwame Nkrumah! I love this Ghanaian boy...you make me proud of being a Ghanaian. Where is this spirit of Africa now?
This man is a genius is every sense of the world. And great question
I should’ve said both these men are geniuses. Dr Alfred Agyeman Bannerman and Dr. Kwame Nkrumah.
Been killed by corrupt politicians
Africa is still alive trust and believe it never died… they Ben feeding off of Africa till this day…
And that wight guy was very misinformed
I like how the brother from the Gold Coast refers black people as Africans and the white people as the colonizers.
AS HE SHOULD🙏🏿
Gold Coast is now called Ghana
He was absolutely right.
Question , where did the so-called white or Caucasian man originally get his education from ? The answer to this will answer a lot of other questions lol
@@zvuv7912 Africa! if you know history
As a Nigerian I’m just soooo proud of the Ghanaian boy. As a Northerner I’m embarrassed and quite frankly ashamed that the same mindset is plaguing us today. Shame on Nigeria
😂😂😂
Na your bro ooo. You see as he disgrace you? Come join us sef😂
He should be in the same age range with buhari, that tells you their upbringing
Nigerians should appreciate the fact the not all the northerners are negatively minded people
@@maryokerichards4539 well I'm talking about the ones that refer to themselves as core northerners
Good temperaments, brilliant minds and really understood their times.Amazing yet embarrassing to this generation
As a Ghanaian I am extremely proud of my my Ghanaian father / Uncle / brother !!! #NeeNee
Its NiiNii it's an affectionate Ga name given to old men usually but can be given to babies too
what is the Ghanaian’s name?
What is the Ghanaian’s name?
The Ghanaian was out with his bazooka. Dude is shooting from all angles🤣🤣
I’’m Ethiopian....love this brother of mine from Gold Coast-Super enlightened.
And all of a sudden the interviewer changed the topic from “ One-Africa “ to “ Divided-Africa “...huh
Yes indeed! You caught that too.🤔
This is so refreshing to see and disheartening to realize how far our society has declined.
This is not even true
Sure, if you mean how wealth inequality has continued to climb, workers wages have dropped proportional to their productivity, healthcare costs are sky high, the housing market has been infested with landlords, and we still have the same gullible people falling for conspiracy theories and moral panics left and right.
This is the best way to talk about racism, prejudices, and stereotypes that people may have. I love how they say prejudices instead of saying racist. Saying I have prejudices indicates that you know it's wrong or at least suspect it is. And it means you're open to correction. It's not accusatory or implies evil like calling someone a racist. I wish people would still converse like this.
No one would dare to admit the fact they have prejudices. Or they just pretend the prejudices they have aren't actually prejudices and excuse themselves
The only reason they didn't call it racism was because they didn't want to offend the white guy. They can't be racist to each other they're all African. And after hearing the guy get all emotional with them dancing around his clear lunacy to believe they were doing them any favors by using them and ruling over them and like 9 million people just appeared out of thin air when they got there.. yeah they weren't going to have him go into full meltdown mode over that truth. People that stole south African land were the exact definition of racism. Even though they believed the had some care for these people and wanted them to develope and claimed that were working even though they were just using workers while they copied and pasted laws from where they came from to control these people and have them living completely different than they were.
Racism is just prejudices based on race. It's the same thing.
It all starts with an admission and acceptance of the fact that we all have prejudices based on whatever. In American, we like to pretend that prejudices ended in the 1960's when it's a continuing issue to be worked on. Hence, we miss opportunities to discuss and better understand each other.
@@rickpearson7943 yes but no. Racism is more of a systemic system put in place to impress people based race. Prejudice is to prejudge someone based on a narrative or ignorance without experience or facts. I can understand what your saying though but there is imo a slight difference.
We are proud of the Ghanaian brother, he represented us (Africans) well. From Nigeria🇳🇬
As a Nigerian, the Ghanaian and Ethiopian men made me happy. Grateful for them.
Nigerian and Ethiopian are shame to African
@@ak-up8fg Why did you say so?
What about your own fellow Nigerian?
@@ak-up8fg Youre a muslim, no wonder you think like that. Most violent, hatefull and unaccepting religion this planet ever had and will have.
Greetings daughter of Levi! ☺️
bro these high schoolers look like retired veterans in their mid 40s
Ikr 😂
I am Ethiopian....proud of the Ghanaian boy. He is So intelligent !!!!
The Ghanaian guy totally handled this very well 🇬🇭
He is against the white man and later when the white guy question him, He changed mouth😅😅
He is just as brain washed as everyone on the panel
But at least his heart is in the right place
@Antoinette Hunter It’s a fact! Most Ghanaians in those days had the chance to study law and other professions abroad. It’s a big worry Ghana is where it is today!
he is of the view of coexistence because according to him the they need each other to develop
@Antoinette Hunter lol BS
The 🇬🇭 guy is so possitive I love is speech very very brilliant this is the kind of people ❤ we need in Africa 🌍 governments
To think that things got worse even after such amazing debates is scary.
If only people nowadays could be as honest about their prejudices as these high school students.
These conversations cannot happen now it’s sad
We can have these debates. Most white (including those who act white) will not want to hear it. So you just have to dress it up in a way that tricks them. For example, if you are in a Pro-Trump crowd talk about ending outsourcing and the wars. If you are in an Any Blue Will Do crowd than talk about police brutality and raising the minimum wage. Each of these conversations will inevitably lead to race and this way makes it more palatable for Euro-centric folks.
@@Dahlen4Dummies brown and black People have prejudice too. It’s ignorant and disconnected to think this is a ONE race problem....this is a behavioral problem of humanity!! Your comment (“most white people”is an example of prejudice itself. Time to be accountable men vs dividing and assuming you are superior/inferior
@@MegaLadyv I don’t think Dahlen is saying that only whites have prejudice but that they are less willing to have conversations surrounding race.
@@auroraborealis4878 another prejudice right there.
This is what they should have showed us all in history class…
Why isn't OUR history OR business really . (US)
Agreed
@@williamcarter7362 huh?
@@Ooooozer321 in the (US), this isn’t really our history or business, unless u have ancestry from the countries represented in the video and even still it isn’t The (US) history
I don't agree with you on this issue because from all Black people on this planet this history is very important very sentimental into understanding where we came from. because this video is an illustration of how the most extreme version of Jim crow was applied to humans and how the the beneficiaries of that system justified it. We in the rest of the world analyze the history of the United States and even though your government doesn't promote it, it is your duty as a human being to understand other problems within the society that we live in globally so that you might be the next person that might contribute to the solving of the issues in an indirect form not even related to politics inorder to solve the issues and understand the people and human beings on the planet.
If you are a self described "African-American" you are as much as an African as me. so this notion that the issues on the mother continent is completely divorced from you then that Notion is completely false because that illustrates an individual that doesn't understand where they came from and will definitely be lost with in the future. not trying to insult you but you have to understand that fact and this applies to all humans. doesn't matter if you're black or not because all humans come from Africa
We could never have debates like this in high school nowadays and it'd be this relaxed. I only graduated a couple months ago, but I'll never forget how childish my last class mates were. It's like they never left middle school.
What you see here are the cream of the crop that have been chosen to sit and debate here. Even back then this type of discourse was difficult to have with just anyone.
Very true! But this is a cultural thing as well. There are many cultures (sadly not typical modern American) where debate is taught in the schools. It's a skill that's taught from elementary. It used to be taught in American schools. I came through in the late 90s and mid 2000s and I caught the tail end of it. Starting in 3rd grade into middle school, we would regularly sit in circles and learn how to take turns discussing topics. The teacher would moderate. As we got older, we would begin to debate. This skill helped me SO much. I can present arguments and points without being angry that the other person doesn't agree and I can question them to try to see things from their side.
I'm a teacher now. We must teach to the state test. The state test is a multiple-choice bubble test. We don't even have writing tests anymore. So, we are forced to teach only the standards that teach students to break down text to find themes, main ideas and make predictions.
We don't teach composition, cursive, debate, or creative writing anymore. Well I DO, but I have to slip it in and when students have not mastered the "tested skills", I have to spent time reviewing those instead. It's very boring for the children and for the teacher.
@@HadassaMoon144 I relate to you 100% … I teach in Atlanta, GA and having to teach state standards is rather mindless at this point. There in no creativity, but like you-I sneak in pertinent skills and information that they need when I can
I left like 8 years ago but my class mates where fine, by 16 everyone had calmed down. Depends on the class I guess.
Most of them will amount to nothing or get bailed out by their rich families.
Ethiopia 🇪🇹 forever. As Ethiopian I'm very proud👏. He's a lot better than any politician that ever come across.
Such forward thinking Ghanaian! He's absolutely brilliant 👏🏾. I can't get enough of these debates. 🇬🇭🔥
This is really precious 🥺 The level of honor and respect they have even as they verbally express their differences and disagreements. Wow. Unconditional honor towards other humans no matter what they believe. Imagine that.
If you call people who see you as less than & “deserved” to be under apartheid as “differences & disagreements”
Sorry but "honor" is the wrong word. They clearly did not hold the guy with apartheid beliefs as "honorable", but they could give him respect as a fellow human being.
This type of behavior is unfortunately lost to time.
@@AlexGarcia-xu9bm Honor is definitely not the wrong word. By respecting each other they are upholding their own honor .
Unfortunately, this kind of discourse has become a thing of the past in this current, sadly ever darkening world.
I'm a South African and I have so much respect for the Ghanaian speaker - so intelligent and articulate. One thing I admire about those days is people's maturity to be so open about their prejudices and handling such sensitive topics well.
Weren’t they all though?
The Ghanaian speaker was the most impressive for me as well and I'm Nigerian.
@Bloom. Make sure you vote for Julius Malema in the next election, to ensure those AB are gotten rid of.
@@RoderickSpodeum well this did not end well.
but all the assumptions of how the whites would be treated by the bantu is true. delete the boer song, delete the farmer. the arguments sound right, and the reality is entirely wrong
No defensiveness. Just honest discussion and self awareness. Civil and respectful. We have gone backwards.
This Ghanian guy was brilliant. He is the Boniface of this debate.
Why you compare with a Nigerian
😂😂 actually
Oh yeah? I was impressed by both of them. Asides the our ever in going battle for Jollof rice lol, Nigerians and Ghanians definitely rep Africa. Our (Ghanians & Nigerians) confidence, intellect and self awareness is just unbeatable.
His name is Dr Alfred Bannerman
The two are not the same though. Alfred knowledge is way beyond Boniface and Alfred is also a bit aggressive.
As an international student trying to master English I find quite interesting seeing people from the past speaking fluently and being this articulate. Nowadays we have internet and translation apps, they didn't and look at them. ADMIRABLE!
That’s exactly what I was thinking, I’m a native English speaker and I think that their English ability is better than mine lol
@@brianmarch4219 "Native English?" From England?
@@earldarnell5221 It means English is their first language.
I mean I’m sure most of these kids have English as a first language
I absolutely love this. As an American with strong roots in Ghana, this man makes me proud. So astute and so proud. He was ahead of his time. He wouldn't have known about the year of return 60 years later. So informative.
He is alive 🤣😂🤣
@Clean corvette I know for a fact you’re not interested in ending it. You white people who become so offended by black people calling you on your bullshit, never cease to amaze me. The Ghanaian presented facts and you’re here hating on him. Yeah, you’re not interested in hearing the problem because you know you’re the problem.
I heard he is alive..he is Prof. Alfred C. Bannerman
@Clean corvette you have no writing skills. Just one big ole run on sentence that makes no sense.
@@jacquelinelowery5589 he makes plenty of sense if you can read
Amazing to hear the level of eloquence and intelligence from these teenagers.
The Ghanaian student uses facts, the South African student uses propaganda.
Propaganda is the way white South Africans were raised. The truth was withheld from them and they were raised in ignorance.
Hello he is white. And speaks bullshit.
why is it so hard to understand the gold coast?
You are right dear that's what I was thinking
Both are spousing propaganda for their own side.
No wonder Ghana was first to get independence in Africa. They are very INTELLIGENT❤️❤️❤️🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭and always fight for Africa
yes 👍 indeed and ETHIOPIA HAS NEVER BEEN COLONIZED
Watch the one with Boniface
Very true yes but ethiopia was never colonised n the 1st free africans where in the country of haiti where they defeated the French n fight 4 freedom spread Jamaica other Islands on the carribean. Kwame Nkrumah trained under the guidance of Marcus Garvey in the USA n returned to Ghana an fought 4 Ghanaian freedom. N he carried on Marcus Garveys ideas of 1 free united africa 4 all africans worldwide
@@ssjr3604 they said africans, haiti and jamaica is not african countries
In sub-sahara africa
I’m an Ethiopian and I’m so proud of the Gold Coast (Ghana) man. Where was this video when we were in high school or even college????!!! Respect to all of them.
@@wonderfulperspectives2674 ?
Can someone tell me why we are not able to have open discussion like this anymore
🤣 my Ghanaian brother’s “But Why?” got me rolling. History is an amazing source of knowledge.
My favorite subject 💯
🤣🤣🤣
I swear...lmao
The "why" was so funny I laughed till I couldn't hold myself 😂😂😂😂😂
I had to rewind and watch it again🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥
Alfred from Ghana was absolutely brilliant
Femi, the Ghanian guy sounds intelligent but with a high degree of inferiority complex
@@anthonyajibolaomoruyi8054 ......How so???What basis informed that assertion?
@@anthonyajibolaomoruyi8054 How?
@@anthonyajibolaomoruyi8054 I guess cause he said they couldnt develop without the white man
@@daredevil1189: That is exactly the reason and he repeated that statement several times.
The history from the colonial masters or invaders was written to make the Blacks/Africans remain as slaves mentally and to make us feel inferior to them.
Even our African believe system was degraded.
Man the Ghanaian brother just keeps making me smile Cos he’s very articulate and clear with his words and point
This is very eye opening especially to see that my opinions are the same as there’s in 2022. It’s just sad that we’re still going through this …..
This is amazing, in a time with no Internet and high levels of prejudice, these high schoolers from different backgrounds were able to have constructive dialogue. Very impressive.
So the question is, how and when did people become so emotional?
This brother from Ghana, he just did the whole continent of Africa proud...
Very true that grandpa was the real African
It is because 90% of the non educated people in the audience want to see emotion and aggression.
I think it's our food nowadays with all the processed sugar. No one can even argue nowadays rationally and calmly like this.
@@hatersgotohell627 that’s a ridiculous connection
@Abe Adams when people found out about how often people are killed for the color of their skin. Yeah that gets people emotional.
"Everybody knows when you think of Africa you think of Blacks" this is continental representation n presentation in totality. Kudos my Ghanian brother
@Turi Taen
Lol...you don't mean it?
I m an african, from west african, i n all my siblings are black
@Turi Taen
The brown you are referring to is what we call black...
I understand you better now...
@Turi Taen
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Kelechi Nkwazy let's discuss further on this. If you don't mind