Living In An Abandoned Hospital
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Many of London's abandoned buildings are not abandoned at all. They're looked after by live-in property guardians. We visited a former east London hospital to find out what it's like to call it home.
One thing to be aware of with these arrangements is that you only have a licence to occupy, similar to when you are in a hotel room - you do not have the security of tenure or rights that come from being a tenant. The man in the film clearly understands his limited rights and the ease with which the arrangements can be brought to an end, but others may not.
David Wood yes this is a solid warning. I was offered one in Peterborough in an old university training centre. Nearly considered it as I was skint. Backed out and three months later everyone is turned out as the building development had been given the go ahead.
I did this too in Holland. Lived in an old nursery home with 70 other people. It was fun, sometimes creepy and a cool experience
why creepy? how old was the building? how big was it? did you guys all have your own room?
@@ophelia_n1514 I don't know, the building made some noise and we knew people have died in the rooms where we slept. I t hink the building was like 30 or 40 years old.... It was a ''modern'' building. Not like a creepy mansion or anything
Its creepy when you live alone in whole house
I wanna hear stories from this episode of yours
They should live there for free. They are doing the building owners a service, like house sitting. Either live rent-free or get a small stipend for doing so.
They do get free bills.
Not all places. Many people still have to pay bills.
Exactly! I’ve checked it out and the rooms are very expensive now
So, with “guardianship” people who actually serve as security and keepers potentially of a listed building are not getting paid but instead pay themselves for their bed in a potentially unsafe house, likely a building not suitable for residency, and also can be thrown out at any moment?
exactly! You pay AND you're doing them a great favour!! Sometimes I really do not understand this world I'm living in! 😂😅
That's such a great way to sum it up!
Appeals to arty types like him however who want to live a querky lifestyle and claim that property just "ties you down".
Although, that said, he seems pretty switched on.
*guardian* here
yes it's essentially free money for the company once they cover the minimum regulatory standards for habitation; clean water, washing and toilet facilities etc
a lot of the places being 'guarded' were commercial buildings historically where they would have to install some facilities to do that and of course make sure it isn't hazardous
there are also some more conventional properties, I've been in such a place for ~5 years now
I am basically renting an unused council flat which would otherwise be empty while they bulldoze and rebuild all the buildings around it in stages
the main benefits for me are the central location and paying less than it would cost to rent normally
I'm paying ~£700/pm where the cheapest equivalent private rental in the area starts at ~£1400/pm rising to £4000/pm (for a single bedroom flat I kid you not)
the lowered expense has helped me save up deposit to buy when I decide it's time without compromising on location :)
+ legally the minimum amount of notice the company can give you is 28 days; but as I say I've been lucky to stay in one place for 5 years
@@rsfllw Interesting to hear! Thanks for the genuine insight along with the video. It may not be right for a lot of people, but I can very much believe that it's a good situation for some.
Incredible Building it holds so many memories and what a fantastic idea the guardianship and wish you all the best in finding somewhere in the future
this documentary needs to be 30 min long
here in the Netherlands we've had this kind of arrangement for decades. It started because squatting used to be legal provided the building was not being used for an X amount of time. Renting it out to a student falls under "using the building" so squatters could nolonger legally get into thosebuildings. Today squatting is illegal so these companies emphasise the fact that the building is guarded against junkies and such.
Oh and "get kicked out at any moment" is also protected by law; there is a one month grace period.
Would be interesting to know if he's still there.
This is so far my favourite video from this channel! This was very neat to see and learn about! I think that would be good for my city as well to do that with some of their abandoned buildings instead of continuously building further and further out from the core. We have a relatively small population compared to other cities, yet we are bigger than some of the biggest cities in the world like Chicago. Makes no sense!
The problem is this can be exploited by slum lords.
@@airhab If it's city run and operated then they could avoid that problem potentially.
Wow! It must to be exciting part of this.
Great idea
It is not abandoned. This section of hospital is closed for reasons and technically it is construction site at the moment.
I love that this kind of scheme exists, such a good idea.
Least he is making use of the place,good luck to him.
That’s a great idea, a bit of certainty from the building owners can’t be too much to ask. Nothing planned for two years wouldn’t be a stretch unless it’s a corrupt local council in an election year
Paying money to squat
Yup, pretty much.
I was looking at these schemes about 7 years ago, I think Some folk can get Lucky and get a decent place for the medium term, but for many it's not a good thing.
Unfortunately I understand that for a lot of folk there is very little choice, especially in London.
i live literally behind this building didnt realise its used like this now
Fantastic use of a stunning building
That is a whole lot of fun!
Like Crashing but in real life!
good insightful video..
As a Slavic person, I'm purely amazed!
I appreciate the idea of keeping out squatters this way especially. The UK law is so broken on that front.
This seems cool, but are any of these buildings up to safety regulations.
great way to live for some sure but people with families need proper council housing not renting whether private or social that is out of people's reach and without security of tenancy
Didnt he afraid of the ghost at night?
i met these offers for property gurdian when I was in London, but it is expensive ! in LA or Australia is free, or even they pay you for being there, in London = you have to pay many because everyone must spentd money a this is it . .very expensive even for shit hostels like No 8, bed bugs, dirty, 18 people in the room, cocroaches, ants . . horrible, in UK they don¨t have any hygiene office i think . .
Those you have nowhere to go is there are places are abandoned for so many years let them live there if they not have to look after the building and keep the building all nice and clean and tidy let them live there it’s got a roof over their head these days when you’re looking around you see empty properties everywhere that need to be done up for people to live in I don’t blame I don’t not blame people for wanting to do that
Who pays for electricity??
I think they do. Unless its the council. Including Water and Gas as well.
For some properties it's included in the rent, for others it's not and you have to pay separately for electricity /water / gas - it depends on a case to case basis.
This country is a mess, we need social housing
Absolutely. This is why London is in a real mess. And the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is basically useless.
Yup, we need to bring back Proper Council Housing rather than all these Shared Ownership and Scheme places
@@AndrewG1989 Torys have been in charge for the last decade you idiot
The tories don't want social housing, tory party membership has the highest percentage of landlords of any party, they voted against any legislation to help private tenants as did the lib dems.
It suits them fine to charge 500 a month for a broom cupboard as they can fit a lot of them in a house, all they care about is money and it was Cameron who changed the rules on social housing to Increase the rents closer to those of the private sector.
@Drew i don't know what the hell your talking about, this is about social housing which was a massive success that started in the late 1800s and saved thousands from destitution after WW2, its been attacked and dismantled by successive tory governments since 1979.
Private rents don't work, social housing does, always did.
At least you don't have to pay for property tax 😂
so basically he is a hipster security guard.
"we have the opportunity to pay cheaper rent" ... It's so sad that nowadays we don't even question the fact that the rent prices are so inhibitively high - we should be up in the streets, making our voices heard so that the government can finally fix the disastrous housing situation in England!
Just live for free in abandoned, oh wait
Like- the thought of people may have died there scares me oh my god
Drew No I’m not afraid of that, I’m just afraid of death and seeing people die, just people I’m afraid of that doesn’t mean I’m afraid of things 7 year olds would believe.
Is the abandoned hospital a listed building. A listed former hospital building in the East End of London. Plus are there ghosts. Very scary to live in this building. But interesting.
EssexLad 8919 it's James kraken hello
Ghosts don't exist
First you outsource everything to the east taking all GDP driving industries out of the country.
Then you tell everyone that these industries are not needed because we want a service economy.
Then you deregulate the services sector because they need to be creative in order to grow and contribute to GDP.
One of those services happens to be financial sector.
Deregulation of financial services drives increase in lending.
Increase in lending (supply of money) drives prices up. This is great because this contributes to GDP growth and covers the GDP part that was lost due to outsourcing. But this means that prices make things less affordable to an average person (especially the one who’s job was outsourced). But it is a great boon for those who are well enough to use leverage and suck up as many properties as possible.
Then it turns out that many people that used leverage were incapable of paying back because the deregulated sector doesn’t care about things like long term viability. And we have a crash.
The only way to come out of the crash was to print even more money (backed by those who can’t afford shit because their jobs were outsourced) creating even more oversupply driving the prices even more marking things even less affordable to an average punter (who underwrote the rescue package).
But fear not now the punter can pay for a pleasure of working as a night guard just because the company that is securing the building and getting payed by the landlord provides them roof over their heads...
“The streets are yours the buildings are ours.”
This is not a good way of living. No living rights, bad condition and also can deteriate your health.
Good luck with ghost
Live in Guardians barge into your room without any advance notice. They can also take pictures of your personal belongings and circulate them via emails, around the whole building without your consent. This caused one guardian I know outrage and he was so angry at them. He told me a lot of what went wrong. These issues are just SOME of the things he shared: They promised to bring in weekly cleaners but that never happened. They let a family stay (they have an apartment on top of a barber shop, so why are they there?) And they guardian company did nothing. They informed a pregnant women to leave. So she should leave and the other idiots can stay? There was broken glass everywhere on the floor. They never properly cleared it up. One guardian was walking around barefoot and when she noticed she went back to her room, before almost stepping on broken glass. It's good thing nothing bad happened to her feet! On the broken windows,they had one single layer of chipboard. The council were unto them and asked them to change it. What did the guardians do? Add another layer of chipboard! The guardians locked the doors of emergency fire exits. Why??? At one point a fireman came to check on the guardians (again, without any advance notification) and he wouldn't stop shouting and saying condescending things. The black guy next to him looked like he wanted to disappear. Is it any wonder why? Complaints were made and the condescending man was thankfully sacked. The council asked them to do many changes to the building. They didn't comply. Needless to say but I'll say it anyway, so glad my friend left when the council said the guardians have to move, due to the severe negligence of the live in Guardians company.
You're paying to squat.
HkayOfficial exactly. Not ideal.
To put it in those terms, that can be said for any rental.
@@bob_._. If you rent, the landlord/lady has the responsibility to maintain the exterior and the communal areas. Who's doing that here?
I would suggest you forward your question to the live-in guardians organization. I'm sure they would have the information you seek.
@@rosiefay7283 if you rent, your property is meant to have minimum accepted standards too.
I know that in reality however you have very few rights as a tennant in England, unlike Scotland who have brought in some great laws to give people who are renting more security.
No short term contracts once the tennant is a known entity, no ending contracts or refusing to renew contracts without justified reason - and that means not kicking one set of tenants out and bringing in another as a replacement.
Also, no unjustified rate rises.
I had to leave a property with them only giving me two weeks notice, I had requested a contract extension about two months before the current one expired... The agency told me it was in progress, but it never happened. - because without a contract I was easy to kick out. The owner wanted to move back in, which is fair play, but I could have had those months notice as it was obvious retrospectively that they had no intention of a new contract, only a rolling rent until it was convenient for them to move back in.
A friend of mine had multiple rented properties where they always gave him 6 month contracts, so they could increase rates each time. They told him if he didn't pay the increase, there would be no renewal and someone else would.
He gave no issues in his tenancy, yet when he reported issues with the property to the landlord, they just bluffed and bluffed their way out of repairs and maintenance.
Joke was on both of those landlords however, as he was savvy enough to play them when he knew he wanted out, delaying contract renewal so the old rate stood, then he left with the minimum notice. Did this twice until the third property where the landlord actually cared about having a good tennant and a nice property.
My friend was in a stable enough position to stay there a while and buy his own property, at a time and on terms convenient to both himself and the landlord.
That's not really wise man
What a con.
The creative industries that noone wants/needs.
Speak for yourself!!!
"I'm an artist" explains everything really. Try spending less time making bead necklaces and learn something useful, you might afford a decent home one day.
Looks like someone's upset that they couldn't stick to the lines...