Hi (I would like to sincerely apologize for any mistakes or misunderstandings that might be caused by my flawed use of the English language. I understand that my writing or speaking might not be up to the expected standard in countries such as the United States of America, United kingdom, Australia, ect. and I regret any confusion or misunderstandings that may arise because of such knowledge i have not in fact reached. English is not my first language, and while I am constantly striving to improve, I know there is always room for growth. I truly appreciate your understanding and patience as I continue to learn and refine my english language skills. Your feedback and any corrections you offer are valuable to me for as long as i still experience existence of atoms and molecules in my body, as they help me become more proficient and confident in my communication. once more, I deeply apologize for any inconvenience my knowledgeable errors may have caused, and I thank you for your continued support till this point.)
Funny story, I was driving to the gas station, and I was listening to the radio and I heard a loud beep and almost if it was a voicemail, and I heard a subtle "Bet" and my car started shaking almost if two cylinders fired at the same time. Does anybody know how to fix it??
@@tjpg5083 My car squeaks when it goes over speed bumps but that's ok, it's just some rubber bushings. But I don't wanna hear some weird engine noise hahahha
The reason you never see two cylinders firing at the same. time is because of vibration. the electric V8 works off the same principle as a solenoid, with an electromagnet. but pushes the piston down. and a solenoid pulls what would be similar to a piston towards the coils of wire. what he is referring to is firing order. and different manufacturers have different firing orders. and most people can't tell the difference in the sound of the different orders but there is a difference. and being an automotive technician I can tell the difference. it's barely negligible but I can tell the difference.
well, yeah, but it's also because a V8 will be a four stroke engine unless someone takes this as a challenge. That means a piston fires every other time it reaches top dead centre. The electric engine is a 2 stroke, because it "fires" every time the cylinder reaches top dead centre (actually, it's kinda 1 stroke, because it fires going up and down, but lets ignore that). What this means is for the electric version set up with the same timings, it'll fire twice as often, but the V8 is an even number of pistons with regular firing rate, so the double rate on firing translates to two pistons firing at the same time, because the crank shaft wasn't adjusted.
I thought of replacing my engines cylinders with magnets and the head block with coils but it would still have all the downsides of oil leaks and complexity
The reason you don't want two cylinders in a V8 to fire at the same time has more to do with two cylinders at top dead center. One will be on compression stroke and the other will be on the exhaust stroke. There are 4 strokes of the piston in your standard V8 engine. Having two on compression stroke at the same time in a standard combustion engine cause imbalance. This electric "engine" has very powerful possibilities 😮
I caught that, too. I know some engines that were designed to do that for one reason or another. One that always comes to mind is the Yamaha tuned v6 engine that went into the OG Taurus SHO. I think it did a thing where it would do a secondary ignition at some point during the exhaust stroke of an opposing cylinder. I spent over 10 minutes trying to find details, but Google is worthless and I couldn't find anything on the Dual Ignition System. I had 5 of them in my early driving years and did just about anything (including engine pulls/rebuilds), and they're notoriously easy to futz firing order on because of it haha
@@illitero the V6 SHO motors had secondary intake runners to have a wider power band, but they did NOT have a secondary ignition event that did any work. All engines with 2 wire coild have a wasted spark setup, it does nothing for power. Source: Built and base tuned a turbo SHO 3.2L ATX. The SHO powered 1995 Z28 is also my work.
Love the info, but next time could you make those red dots louder? Maybe even bass boosted. I could still hear you a little while they were making noises
It's that there aren't more catastrophic engine failures that always gets me... Like, I know engines have been modernized and such, but the sheer number of them that are operating just in North America at any given time, compared to the number of them that fail in a way that scraps the engine, is just incredible.
@archietiberius5005 Give the manufacturers another penny to squeeze and there will be more failures. If it wasn't for planned obsolescence and EPA regs, they could make million mile engines all day. That is IF they wanted to. But there's no money in that.
NOPE 🤔🤔, gasoline engines are a bunch of NONSENSE, especially engines made today. The engine has ONE JOB, and that's to make RPM. You don't need all that foolishness under the hood, it's complete BS. 😒😒😒😒
Honestly I think he's more along the lines of giving us a more viable solution for conversion of ICE-EV. And in the vary least it's something interesting, to ponder.
this electric motor would not have to deal with timing, advance or retard with the changing RPMs you could use magnets throughout this motor to make pistons go back up when they reach the bottom of the stroke, or halfway down the stroke to make them go even faster through the stroke. On the way up or down, you could even have magnets spinning the crankshaft. you could also use the magnets to slow the car down instead of using brakes. When you pull up to a stop sign, the electric motor would stop completely. To pull away from a stop sign, use the rheostat gas pedal to apply more and more amperage to the motor to increase speed or slow down by taking your foot off of the rheostat gas pedal. You could even have counterweights, giving the appearance of a modern V-8, combustion engine, crankshaft, and have magnets in the counterweights passing by other electromagnets.
SO much sense now. Mehn And I was listening in with earbuds so I could hear the difference between crossplane and floatplane distinctly. Now I feel like I know so much about cars 😂
For a second.. sure. But then it sounds quite interesting. The first thought is that is less efficient since there is a lot more bearings. But then you realize that friction is just a small part, and maybe there is some advantage somewhere else. So, now I am really curious, if this somehow can be more efficient. I higly doubt, knowing at what level works performant electric motors.
@@ehombaneIt would never work altogether. The torque required to move the crankshaft enough would require a much much much much bigger engine, that would not only make it super impractical, but also god awful expensive. The engine to car ratio would be like putting the Burj Khalifa into a penny. Less efficient? Not at all efficient. That’s why current EVs aren’t doing it and never will. If there was a way for it to get done it would’ve. This design can’t even be used in lower torque applications like a RC car. Mostly because it cannot compensate for its weight. This can be used to like… stir your coffee in the morning at most
A dampener or damper cancels vibration on old American V8 engines because pulses made by pistons affect crank shape and length. The firing order , by shape of the crank, orders the sequence with the grind of the cam for the Otto cycle. If your wires end up switched, it can actually make you take note. In some situations you may even feel sick if you're sensitive to resonant frequency.
@@nebick27 the vibration dampener or damper cancels pulse from each cylinder changing crank shape, momentarily. longitudinal change, torsional vibration. And it is not a balancer but an absorber. It is dual mass with rubber between, not a weighted wheel. The crank can be balanced and most flywheels are unless they're dual mass. Laugh your way to the O'Reilley's and believe everything kids say. Have fun with that. It's still not a balancer. Look it up by the manufacturer. Ask an engine builder who really knows, not a parts assembler. I get my info from automotive engineer instructors, not JC Whitney, or car craft magazine, or somebody's dad who had a fast car. You use sales terms for parts, not design engineer terms. This will end in misdiagnosis and misunderstanding at times throughout your life. P.s. Have a nice day.
Exhaust header length is also very important. Look up a normal subaru and then a subaru with equal exhaust headers. The difference is massive. The equal one sounds much more like a normal 4 cyl while the unequal is really a subaru sound.
@@splitloopgaming3523 🤣 I knew there would be one or 2 of you douches. No shit I never spent time looking at engines numbnuts, I was too busy getting buns and being the man 🤣
They’ll hide the digital record that makes a broom broom noise somewhere unobtrusively. Still the younger generation will fall for it hook line and sinker.
i got a question. one of the most inefficent forces of fosil powered engine is that the pistons stop twice a stroke. the rotary engine eliminates this. whith that in mind isnt this very inceficend? got to say it looks really cool. and awsome that this works, but for me its friday night and i am very much on red wine.
@@mojojojo6400EV's do sound real, real fast. Otherwise, there's no way to get a combustion engine sound from a non combustion engine, unless you use a speaker. Further, I'm going to need an explanation on how they can possibly "never run out of" energy. I'm pretty sure Newton made pretty clear what's required to convert energy.
For those curious, cars do not have a v8 electric engine, they use magnet synchronous engines on both axels or induction motors, basically the mechanism that makes a brushless drill spin
Never say never. Opposed-piston engines fire two cylinders (functionally two pistons in one cylinder) at the same time. Among others, the engines made by German manufacturer Jumo successfully powered several airplanes in the 1930s and 40s.
@nehart1938 He specified internal combustion engines, which would include all possible configurations. Also, the famous Deltic British locomotive engine was an opposed-piston type and it was "V-shaped" any which way you looked at it. As I said, never say never.
You might like visiting the AngeTheGreat channel on RUclips - it's the channel for the developer of Engine Simulator, a program that simulates that exact kind of thing for a very large variety of engines, accurate sound simulation included.
there is internal combustion engines that fire two cylinders at the same time, while one piston is fired to power the engine the other piston is fired to burn any unburnt fuel in the exhaust gasses to reduce exhaust emissions
Many manufactures (Chevy, Ford, etc) made hundreds of thousands of engines that fired two cylinders at the exact same time. They did it to save on coil packs on v6 and v8 engines. They used 3 or 4 coil packs instead of 6 or 8 and saved half the money by firing pos-neg on one side on compression and firing neg-pos on the other side on the exhaust stroke. Then when the other side came up on compression it would fire neg-pos and the other side would still fire pos-neg on that exhaust stroke. It required double platinum plugs on the neg-pos and single platinum on the pos-neg side.
That may be true, but the pistons weren't compressed with fuel at the same time. I wish he would have explained why two were pushing at the same time here
@@Furyswipes That is true and on other engine they do fire two cylinders on compression only those engines have 12 or more cylinders, 9 piston 3 row radial engines. Two answer your question his electric version fires like a two stroke engine firing all nine cylinders at the top of each stoke which is how a two stroke functions. The issue with a two stroke is noise and emissions. I hope I have answered your question, forgive me if I have not.
@@strangepetscmtyThere are more electric cars than just teslas lmfao. And like it or not, they’re going to be the standard pretty soon. You can cry about them all you want lmfao
@@uncomfortableshirttill we run out of electricity. 💀 we do not have enough (also want to point out the batteries in the cold issue) they can try but it won’t happen.
Neat for a model, but completely impractical for real use due to losses from friction and unnecessary moving parts. A standard electric motor is much more efficient and powerful.
@@mizan-mq3me electric motors have way more torq than internal combustion engines, that's why on trains you have electric engines that are powered by generators
@@Ferrari255GTOjust because it doesn't, doesn't mean it can't. It's working on a small scale, which means it could potentially work on a large scale. I don't know how much power it produces, but it's an idea to make an electric car have a sound similar to a gas.
@@ogshotglass9291 let me explain why this design is stupid: even though it could technically work, it'd be a HUGE waste of energy, because you take the main advantage from electric engines, wich is that they have no mechanical energy loss, and you completely obliterate it. The engine would be RPM limited, wich means the engine would need a gearbox, wich is more wasted energy on conversion. Now you have to add to that the fact that there's X amount of motors instead of a large one or four small ones (one per wheel) wich need to work with each other. To top it all off, since the engine has cranks and a crankshaft reliability goes down, costs skyrocket and maintenance goes up too since the engine would need oil. Safe to say this just isn't happening at a full size scale. Also, the sound wouldn't really be there as there is no need for compression, exhaust or intake, so it'd be an unsealed system with no pressure variability, otherwise it'd be even more complex and even less eficient, as the electric motors would need to fight the engine's friction and displace the air.
That's why a high lobe cam cause a hot rodded engine to sound as it does, which is actually strange because it actually sounds like the engine is about to shut off at idle but if you rev it up it sounds like a MONSTER 😱🫣😮😲🚦🚙🚗
@@paulwood4056 who's going to tell this guy That you can make animations Of stuff That happens in real life? Like if I made an animation of a plane, does that automatically mean planes don't exist? Dumbass logic 💀
There’s some proper dickery happening in this comment thread. So, the 4 people who replied above me, do you bully everyone in your lives or just people you find on the internet? That’s a rhetorical question, I think everyone already knows the answer…..
Why do you need pistons in an electric engine? They're used in gasoline engines because the micro explosions in the cylinders need to be synchronized so that there are always micro explosions happening to maintain the thrust. The chambers need to be reloaded with fuel after ignition, so there's a pause after ignition in each cylinder. That's not necessary in an electric engine with constant thrust. Electric motors are much simpler than gasoline engines.
You don’t; this is just a fun little model. He goes into it in the full video about how this isn’t useful when electric motors are already good at creating rotational motion directly.
@@sawajyd the dodge viper had an odd firing order, meaning the pulses between the firing intervals weren't spaced out evenly, but no 2 cylinders fired at the same time
People that care about efficiency; you need to understand that generally speaking: *the more you can hear an engine, the less efficient it is* (sound is "lost" energy)
That Is just completely wrong Edit: it's not wrong in the fact that sound is wasted energy but loud=inefficient is wrong, almost no energy is lost from sound and some engines are more quiet and less efficient than louder engines. Also straight piping an engine doesn't make it less efficient, it would make it run leaner but your o2 sensors will compensate, it will be louder and the same efficiency.
Uhh, maybe in a motor with the sound from shaft bearings rotating and the air displaced by said movement. But that isn’t really going to be anything substantial. For an ICE engine, you’re not really hearing sound energy from similar sources. You’re hearing the sound of combustion, which isn’t really an energy you could utilise. There’s advancements in fuel injection, timing and component design, which alter aspects such as flame propagation and burn velocity. You want a controlled, yet high burn velocity to minimise heat loss, utilise the most energy from the fuel and to reduce emissions. If you alter the intake or the exhaust for sound energy, you’re probably going to make negative gains while interfering with intake temperatures as well as the scavenging properties of the exhaust. Essentially, you’re not wrong that sound is energy wasted, but to attempt to recover it primarily to sound more efficient is misguided.
Some modern still do the following. If you have an older vehicle. It will fire at the same time. On one piston that fires for power it also has a waste spark on a corresponding exhaust stroke piston.
That seems to be a thing on engines with coil packs, mostly from the 90s and 00s. On, say, a V-6 engine, it was more efficient to put three coils in the pack rather than six, so each coil would be connected to two cylinders that were halfway apart in their cycles. When the coil fired, one cylinder would be near the end of its compression stroke, thus igniting the fuel and starting the power stroke. The other cylinder would be near the end of its exhaust stroke and the spark would do absolutely nothing.
Electric cars will never use this. The point of electric cars is to save energy from not having to convert between forms of energy, so adding this would just be against the electric car design philosophy (waste of energy through friction, heat and sound being produced for no work done)
Ahhh you beat me to it. Yeah l agree, there would be energy lost to friction and heat through the components vs simply having direct drive. Cheers@@musketeer2727
@@lilorlan5530 not exactly. Maseratti bought engines from ferrari, but ferrari forced maserati to have them detuned. In fact they were mad when their MC12 was faster than the Enzo despite the engine being detuned.
_Sounds like Mr. Krabs running from his office to the kitchen._
When he eats bad
🦀
Bwahaaaahahahaha!!! Ya got me with this one I did not see that coming at all.
Money money money 😂
So, he IS a flatplane V8 afterall! I can finally show the proof to my theory!
Nobody:
Mr. Krabs running:
😂😂😂😂
This one caught me off guard
Lmao ppl stupid 😂
That made me think for 5 seconds before understanding 😅
That is freakin hilarious🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Sir, why does your engine bay have a rave going on inside it?"
Uh, aurora borealis?
Ah- Aurora Borealis?! At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your engine?!
No more light switch raves cheat!
How in the name of all that is holy did this turn into steamed hams
@@davemiller638 Yes!!
"JIMMY WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING THE SCIENCE PROJECT!!" lmao
Hi (I would like to sincerely apologize for any mistakes or misunderstandings that might be caused by my flawed use of the English language. I understand that my writing or speaking might not be up to the expected standard in countries such as the United States of America, United kingdom, Australia, ect. and I regret any confusion or misunderstandings that may arise because of such knowledge i have not in fact reached. English is not my first language, and while I am constantly striving to improve, I know there is always room for growth. I truly appreciate your understanding and patience as I continue to learn and refine my english language skills. Your feedback and any corrections you offer are valuable to me for as long as i still experience existence of atoms and molecules in my body, as they help me become more proficient and confident in my communication. once more, I deeply apologize for any inconvenience my knowledgeable errors may have caused, and I thank you for your continued support till this point.)
Damn some v8 be sounding like Mr Krabs
Including the money grubbing.
Mr Krabs is a v8 engine
His legs move like a v engine
Glad you know how to copy someone else's comment. Your weird asf and clearly can't come up with your own jokes...😂
You made me spit my pop out!🤣
“You never intentionally fire two cylinders at a time”
My car: “bet?”
When your car makes a noise and it's not one of the 5 you already knew about
Fiat 2 cilinder does exactly that.
Funny story, I was driving to the gas station, and I was listening to the radio and I heard a loud beep and almost if it was a voicemail, and I heard a subtle "Bet" and my car started shaking almost if two cylinders fired at the same time. Does anybody know how to fix it??
@@tjpg5083 for real
@@tjpg5083 My car squeaks when it goes over speed bumps but that's ok, it's just some rubber bushings.
But I don't wanna hear some weird engine noise hahahha
Bro grabbed a sound clip of Mr. Krabs, sped it up and thought we wouldn't notice
@@AlexanderBrown77nice :)
@@AlexanderBrown77no one cares 😂
lol
I care @@sahabahkhan3858
I am gun grip
The reason you never see two cylinders firing at the same. time is because of vibration.
the electric V8 works off the same principle as a solenoid, with an electromagnet. but pushes the piston down. and a solenoid pulls what would be similar to a piston towards the coils of wire.
what he is referring to is firing order. and different manufacturers have different firing orders. and most people can't tell the difference in the sound of the different orders but there is a difference. and being an automotive technician I can tell the difference. it's barely negligible but I can tell the difference.
well, yeah, but it's also because a V8 will be a four stroke engine unless someone takes this as a challenge.
That means a piston fires every other time it reaches top dead centre.
The electric engine is a 2 stroke, because it "fires" every time the cylinder reaches top dead centre (actually, it's kinda 1 stroke, because it fires going up and down, but lets ignore that).
What this means is for the electric version set up with the same timings, it'll fire twice as often, but the V8 is an even number of pistons with regular firing rate, so the double rate on firing translates to two pistons firing at the same time, because the crank shaft wasn't adjusted.
@deathofallthingspotato9919
There are V8 engines that are two strokes. Detroit diesels should come to mind.
@@musicauthority674 oh, cool... Those will be designed differently, he's set up a petrol V8 4 stroke
@deathofallthingspotato99
MORON.
Electric V8 engine is something I didn’t think I would hear.
I thought of replacing my engines cylinders with magnets and the head block with coils but it would still have all the downsides of oil leaks and complexity
I mean technically it isn't an engine, it's not using heat energy
@@trisapientI really like the idea, but aren’t magnets brittle? How to stop it from shattering?
@@hi-ld4gg correct, they are 1 way motors
@@hi-ld4ggNow all of the old men who call them "V8 motors" will actually be correct.
"What engine ya got?"
Mr Krabs V8
Come up with your own comments
@@kevinwehrer874don’t be so salty just the internet
@@geezoticswe should always bitch against spam and unoriginality. Look up Dead Internet theory, that's where we're headed when we accept it😊
@@bendank9762 some people just have the same idea
@@bendank9762🤓
We need to see engineering explained and the action lab team up for a project
The channel called 'Driving4Answers' has really good videos explaining how engines work, it's well worth checking out.
@@beachforestmountain4269 cool👍
@@beachforestmountain4269seconded! D4A is amazing!
@@beachforestmountain4269 D4A is excellent. Love that guy
@@beachforestmountain4269did they explained solenoid engine?
The reason you don't want two cylinders in a V8 to fire at the same time has more to do with two cylinders at top dead center. One will be on compression stroke and the other will be on the exhaust stroke. There are 4 strokes of the piston in your standard V8 engine. Having two on compression stroke at the same time in a standard combustion engine cause imbalance. This electric "engine" has very powerful possibilities 😮
it's effectively a 1 stroke engine lol, since you can invert the drive...
How practical is it?
Why not just use the motor? I don't see any other use except for using it only as a compressor
@@gannyemasehla8696 half the idea is that this is a new kind of motor. one that could be interchangeable with combustion engines
that's not a "piston engine" that's mister crabs walking sped up
You just copied the first comment with a little different wording. This is why your nor funny at all..😂
I am plant
If you speed it up fast enough, it'll sound more like a V8. It's wild.
No one knows wtf that BS is, just stop
then why do i have so many likes?@@a.meeeezy9576
I’ve been stuck watching this video in a loop for over 30 mins. Waiting for it to finish
Is the joke that it doesn't loop?
@@biscuitbobification I was gonna say the same
I think I am getting near the end finally
I’m stoned too
I'm 15 hours in... when does it end?
“In a combustion engine you never intentionally fire two pistons at the same time”
Boxer engines:
I caught that, too. I know some engines that were designed to do that for one reason or another. One that always comes to mind is the Yamaha tuned v6 engine that went into the OG Taurus SHO. I think it did a thing where it would do a secondary ignition at some point during the exhaust stroke of an opposing cylinder. I spent over 10 minutes trying to find details, but Google is worthless and I couldn't find anything on the Dual Ignition System. I had 5 of them in my early driving years and did just about anything (including engine pulls/rebuilds), and they're notoriously easy to futz firing order on because of it haha
or literally any motor that isnt cross plane? lol
@@_BaguetteDoggo That too. Unless it’s a rotary engine, then the rotors fire just as the one in front is finishing the process.
Yamaha 4-cylinder motors from the 70's & 80's had 2 coils, and always had a "wasted spark" firing on both the combustion and exhaust strokes.
@@illitero the V6 SHO motors had secondary intake runners to have a wider power band, but they did NOT have a secondary ignition event that did any work. All engines with 2 wire coild have a wasted spark setup, it does nothing for power.
Source: Built and base tuned a turbo SHO 3.2L ATX. The SHO powered 1995 Z28 is also my work.
Love the info, but next time could you make those red dots louder? Maybe even bass boosted. I could still hear you a little while they were making noises
That is funny, I just told your mom that her gagging sounds was keeping me from enjoying scrolling through youtube.
Mr.Krabs *when the irs comes*
Combustion engines really are incredible feats of engineering. The fact that we just have cars like we do is mind blowing.
It's that there aren't more catastrophic engine failures that always gets me...
Like, I know engines have been modernized and such, but the sheer number of them that are operating just in North America at any given time, compared to the number of them that fail in a way that scraps the engine, is just incredible.
@archietiberius5005 Give the manufacturers another penny to squeeze and there will be more failures.
If it wasn't for planned obsolescence and EPA regs, they could make million mile engines all day. That is IF they wanted to. But there's no money in that.
@@Quinid1million mile truck engines are quite normal
@@alanhat5252 you are talking about old diesels. Proving my point.
NOPE 🤔🤔, gasoline engines are a bunch of NONSENSE, especially engines made today. The engine has ONE JOB, and that's to make RPM. You don't need all that foolishness under the hood, it's complete BS. 😒😒😒😒
I'm 68 years old and I've been thinking about this since I was in highschool in 1974, I'm glad to it working.
Did you graduate high school by chance? I'm glad to it working if you did.
@@sukhoifockewulf yes
Very cool
@@sukhoifockewulf Holy f*ck, be more disrespectful.
It's obvious they lost a "see" there.
At least as obvious as identifying you as a PoS..
Yeah, but how about the efficiency?
Does an electric piston engine have any actual benefits over a standard electric engine, or is it just a fun little project?
Has no actual purpose
I love the sound explanation!
its brilliant!
just need it slowed down
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_sorry_ _ignore_ _these_
Bro is saving us from silent electric cars
A real G fr
Honestly I think he's more along the lines of giving us a more viable solution for conversion of ICE-EV. And in the vary least it's something interesting, to ponder.
@@MarineVeteran0351 do tell. how is this a more viable solution for conversion of ICE-EV?
this will be silent too because there is no explotion in that engine
@mironevala5435 it's not an engine. It's an electric motor.
@@aaizner847 you are maybe right but i said engine because this is so similar in construction to the v8 ice
This video single-handedly got me into the engine game
Me too brotha. Me too
@Orthaluminoxyou can't be insulting someone's age when you can't even grow proper facial hair
What's this engine game and where can I find it?
@Orthaluminox let him live his life bro damn… I’d like to see what happens if you talk that way to someone’s face.
@@savagebanana3711i think hes referring to Automation, you kinda build engines there. it costs like 30 bucks tho
I could watch your video on this over and over and over again!
Can you imagine your car sounding like that as you cruise main street???
Once properly oiled it wouldn’t sound like that. Hopefully
Can you imagine the technology unavailable to the general population?
People drive things that sound worse
Small V8
That's why you get a touch screen speakers and cameras. Right?
The Sound Explanation really helped tbh
People who say tbh are usually liers
_"You never intentionally fire two pistons at the same time."_
*Kia Sportage:* *_"Hold my_*_ __-beer-__ _*_spark plug."_*
Like in Ghostbusters you never cross streams
Guess nobody told Harley Davidson that. Maybe it’s general rule for v8s but not every engine.
@@Observer61 Or Victory or every older waste spark ignition system from every manufacturer. lol
@@ariebossley2509 Thx, learned something didn’t know it was that common in the early days.
There are no spark plugs on a EV!
this electric motor would not have to deal with timing, advance or retard with the changing RPMs
you could use magnets throughout this motor to make pistons go back up when they reach the bottom of the stroke, or halfway down the stroke to make them go even faster through the stroke. On the way up or down, you could even have magnets spinning the crankshaft.
you could also use the magnets to slow the car down instead of using brakes. When you pull up to a stop sign, the electric motor would stop completely. To pull away from a stop sign, use the rheostat gas pedal to apply more and more amperage to the motor to increase speed or slow down by taking your foot off of the rheostat gas pedal. You could even have counterweights, giving the appearance of a modern V-8, combustion engine, crankshaft, and have magnets in the counterweights passing by other electromagnets.
cool idea, but this is waaaaay less efficient than a regular electric motor, so it's only real use is looking cool, and simulating a combustion engine
The sounds at the end blew my mind. Makes so much sense now!
I knew that and I dropped out of school 😂❤.
😅
SO much sense now. Mehn
And I was listening in with earbuds so I could hear the difference between crossplane and floatplane distinctly. Now I feel like I know so much about cars 😂
@@BOTPlayingBlackOPS6you’re so smart! Genius even. Like 200iq!
my diesel makes less noise.
My brain glitched when I hear electric v8 engine 😂
That's what they want 😉
@@dzznuts7580istg if I ask “who’s they?” and someone replies with some conspiracy, I’ll lose my last piece of faith in humanity
For a second.. sure. But then it sounds quite interesting.
The first thought is that is less efficient since there is a lot more bearings. But then you realize that friction is just a small part, and maybe there is some advantage somewhere else. So, now I am really curious, if this somehow can be more efficient. I higly doubt, knowing at what level works performant electric motors.
@@ehombaneIt would never work altogether. The torque required to move the crankshaft enough would require a much much much much bigger engine, that would not only make it super impractical, but also god awful expensive. The engine to car ratio would be like putting the Burj Khalifa into a penny. Less efficient? Not at all efficient. That’s why current EVs aren’t doing it and never will. If there was a way for it to get done it would’ve.
This design can’t even be used in lower torque applications like a RC car. Mostly because it cannot compensate for its weight. This can be used to like… stir your coffee in the morning at most
@@ehombaneIt's 100% pointless, electric motors work with wound wires and magnets.
This serves zero purpose, it's basically a display piece.
V8 engines really do have a unique sound to them. It's fascinating how different designs can affect the sound output.
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Bro looks in the mirror and asks “am I dumb or is everyone else just smarter than me”
STOP commenting on every single video
WRONG, a flat plant crank engine fires 2 pistons usually beside each other at the same time.
No no no
Flatplane sounds Like an EMD 567, 645, or 710 engine
tf does that mean
Sounds like an EDP 445 to me
@llamaboioflusatia I shouldn't have laughed, but I did 😂
@@whyisitsodifficultomakeahandleThat, friend, is a train guy
@@pantrapeusz9071 train GIRL
The fire order also helps reduce vibration on the engine and surrounding attachments to the engine or the engine with basically vibrate apart
Having the crankshaft and flywheel balanced are crucial too.
@@kylekenan2321Exactly!
A dampener or damper cancels vibration on old American V8 engines because pulses made by pistons affect crank shape and length. The firing order , by shape of the crank, orders the sequence with the grind of the cam for the Otto cycle.
If your wires end up switched, it can actually make you take note. In some situations you may even feel sick if you're sensitive to resonant frequency.
Lol, its for smoothing out rotational forces, not vibrations
@@nebick27 the vibration dampener or damper cancels pulse from each cylinder changing crank shape, momentarily. longitudinal change, torsional vibration.
And it is not a balancer but an absorber.
It is dual mass with rubber between, not a weighted wheel.
The crank can be balanced and most flywheels are unless they're dual mass.
Laugh your way to the O'Reilley's and believe everything kids say.
Have fun with that.
It's still not a balancer.
Look it up by the manufacturer.
Ask an engine builder who really knows, not a parts assembler.
I get my info from automotive engineer instructors, not JC Whitney, or car craft magazine, or somebody's dad who had a fast car.
You use sales terms for parts, not design engineer terms. This will end in misdiagnosis and misunderstanding at times throughout your life.
P.s.
Have a nice day.
THANK YOU!! THANK YOU. YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT HOW EACH Manufacturers ENGINE SOUNDS.
Exhaust header length is also very important. Look up a normal subaru and then a subaru with equal exhaust headers. The difference is massive. The equal one sounds much more like a normal 4 cyl while the unequal is really a subaru sound.
Really? I've seen other channels explaining how and why the motor sounds the way it does when it comes to cars or bikes
A.I auto replied just wow, haha to your grave.
We all love solenoids...
Finally my car can have RGB lights in engine
A car for true gamers
I just learned more in this short than I have in 40 years about engines
if it took you 40 years to learn about firing order, you never actually spent time learning about engines.
How long will it take to understand that this video is a joke.
@@sighvatssohn its not a joke, its a demonstration. Jfc so many idiots
@@splitloopgaming3523 🤣 I knew there would be one or 2 of you douches. No shit I never spent time looking at engines numbnuts, I was too busy getting buns and being the man 🤣
@@splitloopgaming3523 that's the point
All I hear is Mr.Krabs walking sounds
That Mr. Krabs beat is 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much brother for the knowledge 🎉❤😊
We got a whole ass electric v8 engine before GTA 6.
What is next? 😂😂 V12 electric before GTA
No body care about gta 6 except TikTok lame o’s
@@Bussdownbanditand anyone who remotely enjoys video games
@@Bussdownbanditimma touch you (I came from Instagram not TikTok)
@@MochaKnightessnothing wrong with video games, just your disgusting, shitty outlook.
New EV with a soul? 😅
Nice one bud
Put some valves, it might work🤷♂️
They’ll hide the digital record that makes a broom broom noise somewhere unobtrusively. Still the younger generation will fall for it hook line and sinker.
No, exhaust noise comes from the explosions in the engine being amplified by the exhaust pipes, this has no explosions so it wouldn’t make sound
@@drumnbasssakuga9352it would make sound from the pistons moving. Not the same as a real car sound, still, a sound
You telling me that a regular V8 engine do paradiddles
As a percussionist I applaude the simple musical knowledge applied to the audio of an engine. That definitely takes a bit of skill.
Bloody drummers!! Although Bonham made his drums sound like powerful V6 with those insane triplets
Fellow dinner here. I know what ur talking about. 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
I love paradiddles
Baha. Superior comment
i got a question. one of the most inefficent forces of fosil powered engine is that the pistons stop twice a stroke. the rotary engine eliminates this. whith that in mind isnt this very inceficend? got to say it looks really cool. and awsome that this works, but for me its friday night and i am very much on red wine.
When you need an electric motor but you want it to be as inefficient as possible.
why you gotta ruin the fun
Some people might want the real sound... sorta. Also you can mess around and configure this thing to never run out of energy
I am sorry, what? Never run out of energy?
@netimma you heard him, its perputal motion. Atheists win this one buddy.
@@mojojojo6400EV's do sound real, real fast.
Otherwise, there's no way to get a combustion engine sound from a non combustion engine, unless you use a speaker.
Further, I'm going to need an explanation on how they can possibly "never run out of" energy. I'm pretty sure Newton made pretty clear what's required to convert energy.
For those curious, cars do not have a v8 electric engine, they use magnet synchronous engines on both axels or induction motors, basically the mechanism that makes a brushless drill spin
I would hope so😂 electric v8 would be impractical
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@@Gun_Grip you are
Damm, looking at those pistons is doing something in me.
*sigh
*checks the comments
Switched to V6 engine because it was easier to explain
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@@pricklycatsss It's the same thing lol.. Just 2 less cylinders
What I think of the clicking sound BLINKERS
Never say never. Opposed-piston engines fire two cylinders (functionally two pistons in one cylinder) at the same time. Among others, the engines made by German manufacturer Jumo successfully powered several airplanes in the 1930s and 40s.
opposed-piston and radial engines are definitely not V-shaped
@nehart1938 He specified internal combustion engines, which would include all possible configurations. Also, the famous Deltic British locomotive engine was an opposed-piston type and it was "V-shaped" any which way you looked at it. As I said, never say never.
Was just about to say this also, there are most definitely internal combustion engines that fire two pistons simultaneously
German and 1940 is a terrifying combination
Honda inline 4 does it as well 2 outside 2 inside !
V8’s would not be in demand if they sounded like knees knocking after a cold shower.😂
The entire engine model is made of plastic ofc it doesn't sound like an engine made out of metal
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i love the graphics of the 2 different v8 sounds, id love the same thing for other types of engines too like inline 4s, 6s, and v6s
BUT WHAT OF THE ROTARY ENGINE MY GOOD MAN?
@ those too
You might like visiting the AngeTheGreat channel on RUclips - it's the channel for the developer of Engine Simulator, a program that simulates that exact kind of thing for a very large variety of engines, accurate sound simulation included.
@ thank you so much!
there is internal combustion engines that fire two cylinders at the same time, while one piston is fired to power the engine the other piston is fired to burn any unburnt fuel in the exhaust gasses to reduce exhaust emissions
Many manufactures (Chevy, Ford, etc) made hundreds of thousands of engines that fired two cylinders at the exact same time. They did it to save on coil packs on v6 and v8 engines. They used 3 or 4 coil packs instead of 6 or 8 and saved half the money by firing pos-neg on one side on compression and firing neg-pos on the other side on the exhaust stroke. Then when the other side came up on compression it would fire neg-pos and the other side would still fire pos-neg on that exhaust stroke. It required double platinum plugs on the neg-pos and single platinum on the pos-neg side.
That may be true, but the pistons weren't compressed with fuel at the same time. I wish he would have explained why two were pushing at the same time here
@@Furyswipes That is true and on other engine they do fire two cylinders on compression only those engines have 12 or more cylinders, 9 piston 3 row radial engines. Two answer your question his electric version fires like a two stroke engine firing all nine cylinders at the top of each stoke which is how a two stroke functions. The issue with a two stroke is noise and emissions. I hope I have answered your question, forgive me if I have not.
Laughing as my 46 Willys 2A has 1 coil...on the ignition switch nonetheless. 😂😂😂
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And nothing beats the sound of a old V8 with a aftermarket cam.
This is blasphemy this is madness...
@@strangepetscmty I was refering to makingf electgric v8 . we jave v8 tnc
@@strangepetscmtyThere are more electric cars than just teslas lmfao. And like it or not, they’re going to be the standard pretty soon. You can cry about them all you want lmfao
That's because of the carburators
@@uncomfortableshirttill we run out of electricity. 💀 we do not have enough (also want to point out the batteries in the cold issue) they can try but it won’t happen.
Probably the most inefficient way to utilize electricity ⚡️
Congrats on someone finally making this. I have been talking about using magnets to push the pistons down for years. Awesome to see someone go for it.
Neat for a model, but completely impractical for real use due to losses from friction and unnecessary moving parts. A standard electric motor is much more efficient and powerful.
@@UnwindTimeVintageWatchMuseumit also has more torq
@@TheOnlyKingBeesource?
@@mizan-mq3me Physics, 8 grade.
@@mizan-mq3me electric motors have way more torq than internal combustion engines, that's why on trains you have electric engines that are powered by generators
Me seeing the pistons in action; I should call her
I’m actually beefing with my GF right now so this hit hard😂
yall saw it, right?
Out of all the things you could have noticed, you noticed that?
xD ....I *did* think, like, "Wow! _That_ ... doesn't look like...
Just because i KNOW someone's thinking it: no, electric cars DO NOT use engines like theese, this is just a demonstration model of something not real
Demonstration model of an idiotic engine type.
@@ВикторМарухин-с2ж are you criticising combustion engines or did you not understand that this thing doesn't exist on a large scale?
@@Ferrari255GTOjust because it doesn't, doesn't mean it can't. It's working on a small scale, which means it could potentially work on a large scale. I don't know how much power it produces, but it's an idea to make an electric car have a sound similar to a gas.
@@ogshotglass9291 let me explain why this design is stupid: even though it could technically work, it'd be a HUGE waste of energy, because you take the main advantage from electric engines, wich is that they have no mechanical energy loss, and you completely obliterate it. The engine would be RPM limited, wich means the engine would need a gearbox, wich is more wasted energy on conversion. Now you have to add to that the fact that there's X amount of motors instead of a large one or four small ones (one per wheel) wich need to work with each other. To top it all off, since the engine has cranks and a crankshaft reliability goes down, costs skyrocket and maintenance goes up too since the engine would need oil. Safe to say this just isn't happening at a full size scale. Also, the sound wouldn't really be there as there is no need for compression, exhaust or intake, so it'd be an unsealed system with no pressure variability, otherwise it'd be even more complex and even less eficient, as the electric motors would need to fight the engine's friction and displace the air.
@@ogshotglass9291Jesus Christ, you people are dense!
We need a car made of this engine or i aint dying till year 2200
BRO THIS IS WILDLY AMAZING ANIMATION!! So cool showing why the idle sounds the way it does like wtf that just blew my mind!
Drop u may wanna drop the scissors before u run around in shock telling ur mama papa about the new discovery in ur life.
That's why a high lobe cam cause a hot rodded engine to sound as it does, which is actually strange because it actually sounds like the engine is about to shut off at idle but if you rev it up it sounds like a MONSTER 😱🫣😮😲🚦🚙🚗
That's all it is... animation. Do you believe all the cartoons you watch?
@@paulwood4056 who's going to tell this guy That you can make animations Of stuff That happens in real life? Like if I made an animation of a plane, does that automatically mean planes don't exist? Dumbass logic 💀
There’s some proper dickery happening in this comment thread. So, the 4 people who replied above me, do you bully everyone in your lives or just people you find on the internet?
That’s a rhetorical question, I think everyone already knows the answer…..
Flatplane V8 sound like Mr. Krabs running
And those pistons remind me of the child-molesting monster from Silent Hill 2
Why do you need pistons in an electric engine? They're used in gasoline engines because the micro explosions in the cylinders need to be synchronized so that there are always micro explosions happening to maintain the thrust. The chambers need to be reloaded with fuel after ignition, so there's a pause after ignition in each cylinder. That's not necessary in an electric engine with constant thrust. Electric motors are much simpler than gasoline engines.
You don’t; this is just a fun little model. He goes into it in the full video about how this isn’t useful when electric motors are already good at creating rotational motion directly.
TESLAS BE LOOKING HELLA GOOD WITH THIS ONE!🔥🔥🔥
The way it was moving tho😭💀🙏🗣️🔥🔥
Bro dirty minded me for a second💀💀💀💀💀
I looked for this comment 😂
I feel you bro xD
Men of culture gather lol 👀
Wth
I was gonna say… where may I purchase a slightly larger version of this from?
Now, build a full size motor, and set standard back 50 years
It would have like 0 torque
I am gun grip
@@Gun_Gripdon't lie
@@RealG.Washington I am Gun Grip
the order of where the pistons fire is to ensure the engine doesnt violently vibrate/shake and evenly distributes the energy
Probably wont be the only one to mention it but boxer engines do fire two cylinders at once
Only if using a flat-plane crankshaft and having 6 or more cylinders, the vast majority of boxer engines don't fire two cylinders at once.
A v-10 dodge engine fires 2 at a time back in the late 90s, as I remember?
some motorcycles are 2 stroke
@@sawajyd the dodge viper had an odd firing order, meaning the pulses between the firing intervals weren't spaced out evenly, but no 2 cylinders fired at the same time
good thing he is talking about a V8, which don't fire 2 at a time ever.
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This might be the most comprehensive engine mechanic video I've ever heard
That was a cool optical illusion at the end.
People that care about efficiency; you need to understand that generally speaking: *the more you can hear an engine, the less efficient it is*
(sound is "lost" energy)
...but it adds to the vibe, which gives energy!
I hear you loud and clear! 👍🤞
That Is just completely wrong
Edit: it's not wrong in the fact that sound is wasted energy but loud=inefficient is wrong, almost no energy is lost from sound and some engines are more quiet and less efficient than louder engines. Also straight piping an engine doesn't make it less efficient, it would make it run leaner but your o2 sensors will compensate, it will be louder and the same efficiency.
Uhh, maybe in a motor with the sound from shaft bearings rotating and the air displaced by said movement. But that isn’t really going to be anything substantial. For an ICE engine, you’re not really hearing sound energy from similar sources. You’re hearing the sound of combustion, which isn’t really an energy you could utilise. There’s advancements in fuel injection, timing and component design, which alter aspects such as flame propagation and burn velocity. You want a controlled, yet high burn velocity to minimise heat loss, utilise the most energy from the fuel and to reduce emissions. If you alter the intake or the exhaust for sound energy, you’re probably going to make negative gains while interfering with intake temperatures as well as the scavenging properties of the exhaust.
Essentially, you’re not wrong that sound is energy wasted, but to attempt to recover it primarily to sound more efficient is misguided.
@@ethan4237An attempt to recover that wasted energy was never mentioned though.
Are we just going to ignore the rubber piston looking like flesh light
This is a genuinely useful and entertaining short.
Replace useful with useless
the model is quite useful to get a general idea of what an engine is doing@@tomnuss7396
Literally who is this useful too, very cool but pretty “useless”
a tool is only as useful as the person wielding it@@daviddettmann6660
Bro I never realized that the video restarted 😂
That example of the sound is so clutch . Well done 👏
Nice
Me: Oh wow that’s pretty interesting tbh
Everyone else: Mr. Krabs walking
My thoughts exactly 🤣
That activated some neurons
“Might notice something is off with this one”
Sir, everything. Literally everything is off with this one.
Some modern still do the following. If you have an older vehicle. It will fire at the same time. On one piston that fires for power it also has a waste spark on a corresponding exhaust stroke piston.
Yeah that's common in 4 cylinders
my dad's Ford CMAX for example. has a 1.6L I4 TDCI.
That seems to be a thing on engines with coil packs, mostly from the 90s and 00s. On, say, a V-6 engine, it was more efficient to put three coils in the pack rather than six, so each coil would be connected to two cylinders that were halfway apart in their cycles. When the coil fired, one cylinder would be near the end of its compression stroke, thus igniting the fuel and starting the power stroke. The other cylinder would be near the end of its exhaust stroke and the spark would do absolutely nothing.
@@THECONTINENTALMAN the TDCi doesn't have any spark plugs though?
@@soundmattersuk i know, but i guess it has the same timing.
It’s videos like these that make me wish youtube shorts could be longer.
Its almost like we’re on a platform made originally for long platform videos
@@kh9242we have longs. They’re called actual videos
then just watch a "normal" youtube video?
RUclips videos for the longest time were limited to 9 minutes
They're called "regular RUclips videos"
It would be interesting to know what kind of power it makes to see if it's practical or not.
Electric cars will never use this. The point of electric cars is to save energy from not having to convert between forms of energy, so adding this would just be against the electric car design philosophy (waste of energy through friction, heat and sound being produced for no work done)
Ahhh you beat me to it. Yeah l agree, there would be energy lost to friction and heat through the components vs simply having direct drive.
Cheers@@musketeer2727
Toyota was considering this at one point.
Unless we use cars that run on nuclear power we will never use these
Over the years this channel has become my favorite and most intriguing science shorts channel
The guy who made the v8 engine knew exactly what he was doing💀
I didnt get it
What he knew he was doing?
He was just making a engine😅
@@Anhuman_on_marsyou don’t want to know💀
@@Anhuman_on_marsthe valves look like an adult toy for males 😭
I really appreciate you showing us the sound difference
"He is just a friend"
So if you put something fleshy in the coils, will it burn?
Just asking 😊
Sounds like Mr krab running from the IRS
You should do a video on how a cam can give a motor a throaty growly stutter and can add power.
Lobe separation angle
Flat plane is also what makes the Ferrari 458 have a beautiful sound as well, so much that corvette copied it for their C8 Z06
The corvette still uses a valvetrain from the 1940's tho
yes i’m sure the sound is why corvette engineers went with a flat plane
Ferrari also made cross plane v8 on their Maseratis.
@@lilorlan5530 not exactly. Maseratti bought engines from ferrari, but ferrari forced maserati to have them detuned. In fact they were mad when their MC12 was faster than the Enzo despite the engine being detuned.
Ford also uses a flat plane, what’s your point. They all use different implementations of the style… doesn’t have to do with just sound.
Sounds like someone has the turbo on while playing Super Mario while Mario has flower power up.
I dunno about mr Krabs walking but that sound like kerosene 😂
Tru
That slow mo piston lookin sus bruh
V8 sound ❌
Mr krabs walking sound ✅
Gives electric engine a whole new meaning
Sounds like an old Super Mario game more than Mr. Krabs to me
This engine is sponsored by Mr. Krabs
😂😂😂
You always come up with the coolest stuff! You don’t stay on one subject only, you diversify, and that’s the trick!
Thank you!
You people are incredibly thick. This is not how electric cars work
This is a great idea as it helps the vehicle not get stuck when compared to a straight chain.