my parents got divorced. My dad moved just a few streets away from my mom. I was able to walk to his house. My parents stayed best friends all the way until my father died. We had every holiday together, birthday, celebration, and hardship. They were a disaster living together. Constantly fighting. Put them in two separate houses and they were an unstoppable force of love and team work. It's more than possible. Best wishes to you both!
My parents get a long better as friends vs being married and we did holidays/trips together. Even after my mom got remarried. So I agree that it is possible 🥰
Because your father really loved your mother. He must have suffered terribly for so many years. Nowadays, unfortunately, most women abandon men. For various reasons, sometimes nonsense
Except my situation, I can tell he's waiting for me to be back to work and steady... then he's leaving. Had his baby, had to stay home and get supports in place due to his autism... but hey, make me a single parent because the attention isnt all on you (my bf)
@@meichey00 Lol, it's not the rule. If you're a person more in tune to your emotions and put value in your relationships, you'll feel it like lots (not all) of women feel. I know some women who are more emotionally unavailable and find they end up mourning after, due to not caring enough to pay attention to the signs while the relationship was crashing and burning. The men/women like that, all act so shocked when it's over!
This is heartbreaking. She looks so hurt. Someone else in the comments said he’s in denial, I agree. He’s lost so much weight, and in his eyes he’s just a bit.. manic. They’re talking so respectfully to each other, it’s incredible. It’s just so sad, the whole situation.
Wow, I haven't seen these two in over a year and I'm sad they're divorcing but it's nice to see how amicable they both are ❤ I wish all divorces and or relationships could end this way! Very mature.
Stephanie, Me either. I thought they had just gone away off line. Then I recently (just in the couple days) found her on FB again. Now i find out all this and I’m kinda heartbroken but then again I’m heartbroken for ANY couple going through a breakup & divorce.
My parents got divorced when I was 7 and I can’t even imagine how miserable the whole family would’ve been if they tried to “stay together for the kids.”
Well, trying to stay together for the kids actually involves TRYING. If not for the sake of the live for your partner but for the love of your kids. People today doesn’t know what really trying is, in a relationship.
The whole point is to TRY, which means letting go of selfish desires for the sake of being stable for the children 😂 divorce is too easy for people to just quit. And this is on BOTH sides.
I started watching you all when you were doing the Steven pick up lines. Then of course things changed but I still love you both so much equally and watch both of your all's content. I have 3 kids two with Autism , not with the father anymore and were great friends. So I can relate to you all. Love you both
My heart hurts for both of you. Even the most amicable split up is still major/life changing and has so much emotion and grief. I'm happy you're doing what is best for you and the kids. ❤
As someone who mourned the relationship already, Laura has been through all the stages of grief, including denial. Stephen is still in the denial stage. He doesn't realize it's too late to save their marriage. In time he will and they both as well as their children will be better off for it.
Yes I follow him & Laura, and like a lot of women, she left the relationship emotionally before they physically separated. My mother did this also. Women can't always just up & end a marriage. They will be more deliberate & plan ahead before telling their husband they want to be separated.
Right. And its hitting him now, a year later. I think bc she was so nice ane open w him, he had this subconscious feeling they still had a chance. Sometimes u have to cut your ex off for them to GET that its truly over
I enjoyed this.. I enjoy Stephen in this space. My heart broke when Laura said “i was mourning the relationship for years” and Stephens reaction was so sad. You are both amazing to come together like this. I wish you both continued peace and healing
I did the same in my marriage. I mourned the loss and came to terms with it after begging him for counseling or anything. I then proceeded to tell him we were divorcing and he acted shocked, begged me to stay, threatened me, did anything but it was OVER for me.
People should really step back and realize how painful this is for you both and at the end of the day you deserve the respect and privacy and although you shared your relationship/family we don't have a right to information or to tear you down. Love to you Laura ❤❤❤
They don’t really get privacy because they put their whole life out here public ally. But I love both of them. They can’t really have it both ways though
Dude listening to you two speak about your kids makes me want to bawl my eyes out. Such excellent parents your kids are so lucky to have you and you're lucky to have them ❤
@@holder1971 I disagree, I think the family unit is important and beautiful, I have a Son and work hard with my partner to maintain a healthy, loving relationship so he has both parents together. But my parents were a terrible couple and I was way happier when they separated, sometimes good parents are better parents not together, it depends on the situation and we don't know how their relationship was effecting the kids, even in small ways, that would have been detrimental long term.
I’m hard of hearing and even with AirPods turned up all the way, it’s still hard to hear you guys. I just thought I’d let you know. Very proud of both of you for doing this! It must not be the easiest thing to do but your strength is inspiring ❤
Have you tried turning on the RUclips captions? I use that all the time. Let me say, it isn't always accurate and can make hysterical mistakes, but it's obvious when it happens. Most of the time it can be helpful.
@@thnkx I almost always use captions when I can but I listened while at work and I can’t have my phone out like that 😕😕 but it wasn’t bad enough to where I couldn’t listen! I was able to get through! I just had a harder time than with other podcasts is all 🤷🏻♂️😊
Thank you for saying that about the volume, I was getting ready to say the same. The person on the microphone needs to bump up the volume. The commercials were blairing when I had it loud enough to hear them talking.
I noticed this too! I’m not hard of hearing but I have my volume all the way up and even the sound of me preparing and eating my food made me have to turn on captions 😂
I think the people picking sides are the most vocal about it. There’s a lot of us remaining quiet who just love you both and want the best for you both. ❤
Exactly… It’s not about sides it’s about the person. I won’t tolerate victim blaming. … I don’t know why I answered the way I did but this is what I’m seeing allot in hateful comments on choosing sides…
I agree but with that said Stephan has changed did a 180 and now is someone he wasnt before. So I cant support the new him because I do not gel with what he is now putting out there. I followed and watched his videos when he first started until he started spewing stuff that I disagree with so unfollowed him. She so far has stayed true with what she has always put out there so I support her.
You’re doing the right thing. I was a child of divorce and I was relieved when my parents split. Coparent and be kind to each other - you have already found the right way. Kudos to you both!
Stephen, NO child wants to live in a broken home BUT no one wants to live with two adults who hate eachother and fight and scream and hurt eachother every day of their lives.
@jypsyfalcon4076 I'm not talking specifically about them, but in general about parents who do or do not get divorced. I'm sure my experience is similar to others whose parents got divorced and experienced the screaming, crying and emotional abuse.
I think people sometimes underestimate the problems that come with living in a broken home vs coming from one. Living in the toxicity daily is rough and causes a lot of damage. Divorce is hard too! But two amicable parents in different homes, who are respectful and supportive (which they seem to be accomplishing) is a good thing. Especially if they're unable to do the same living under one roof.
@@denisemeissner1015 I don't think she was saying Stephen and Laura currently hate each other. But they could end up hating each other if they stay married. Like my parents. Married 57 years. I'm 43 and I've never seen them happy with each other.
Maybe it's just me, but I sense tons of tension. I know it's peaceful, and as respectful as possible, but there seems to be a lot of tongue biting and repressed resentment on some stuff. Keeping the friendship alive and co-parenting is a huge feat in those circumstances, and I really commend them on treading the line between being genuine and being respectful of one another's views. I really hope they heal individually and find their footing. Change is hard, and they're clearly working harder.
You can tell Laura is really holding back at points. I can so sense her stress, pain, and unease. She is trying SO hard keeping it all together. I feel such compassion for her. He seems really out of touch at times. He totally glossed over and dismissed her pain and tried one-up her when she mentioned hate from his followers. He also dismissed her when she discussed her parents' marriage. And joked casually about how they are divorcing at 10 years. Very sad.
Yeah those parts really saddened me. It's a pattern in a lot of their interactions. He doesn't hear or acknowledge her pain or feelings and dismisses and minimises it and changes the subject super fast to talk about his own pain on an unrelated topic. Very very sad.
@@theskincareskinny5006 I'm aware and do factor it in. Being ND doesn't change the pain and distress that it causes the other person whose feelings are being dismissed. It's still sad and unfortunate. And here's the thing: he wasn't willing to do family or couples therapy to work on himself and help the family relationships. Not everything can be excused by being ND. He does seem to at least on the surface take accountability for it, and I give him credit for that. But that doesn't diminish the real pain caused.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! AND SO MANY OTHERS I PICKED UP ON. I ACTUALLY SHOWED THIS TO MY PSYCH. PROFESSOR WHO IMMEDIATELY STATED TURN IN A PAPER REGARDING MY THEORIES ON THIS SPECIFIC CONVERSATION. I THOUGHT HE WAS ABSOLUTELY JOKING....TO MY DEMISE HE WAS NOT!!!!
That was REALLY hard to watch. I am also autistic and I can still manage to listen to people and properly respond. We are still capable of gaslighting and that’s what that was. Instead of him saying, “I’m sorry that’s happening to you,” and addressing his followers immediately right here to STOP, he said “well I am getting attacked by the left and they’re just awful,” and I read his comments. I don’t usually see people being terrible to him. What I see is folks telling him he’s being inappropriate, insulting, and insensitive for absolutely no reason, and he calls ANYONE who disagrees with him “the left or liberal,” I am neither and anytime I have said something he didn’t want to hear he’s responded with, “you’re attacking me, you’re a liberal.” It has happened twice now and I am never attacking or even REMOTELY rude in my comments.
I wish I was as cool-headed and understanding as Laura. If anyone can get through this absolutely impossible situation it is her. Her kids are so incredibly lucky.
Right?! The only way I will watch Stephen is with Laura in this kind of space in her videos… i cannot watch him anymore. I don’t mind the vaccine stuff, I just can’t handle all his hate. I feel for her. Her tears. She’s incredibly mature. ❤❤❤
All of the liberals sound like they are reading off of a telemarketer script, “Stephens mentally ill, he’s having an episode, he’s a hater, he’s dangerous and unstable, no wonder why Laura divorced him”. It’s like they’ve all been plugged into AI and they’ve turned into cyborgs. They are all falsely accusing Stephen because they are so threatened that he has a mind of his own and has rebelled against the hive-mind mentality. It’s so creepy!
My parents finally got a divorce when I was 19 and living out of the house. I had started telling my mother to leave my father when I was 13, literally telling her “if you divorce dad, I’ll be okay, it won’t hurt me.” But they kept insisting on staying together, supposedly for me. I cannot even begin to describe how much happier they are now that they’re divorced. How much better my relationship got with each of them as individuals. Obviously things aren’t perfect, they’re pretty overwhelmingly damaged people at this point, but my only reaction to learning they separated was “thank god, finally.” I only wish they had done it before I started high school. “Staying together for the kids” is the stupidest thing ever. It’s a lie adults tell themselves when they are too cowardly to leave a bad situation. Staying together for the kids teaches your children to accept their circumstances when they are miserable instead of learning to take agency over their own happiness. If you stay in your marriage “for your kids” you are failing as a parent because you are failing to sufficiently teach your children healthy independence-and raising your children to be a happy, healthy adults is your entire job as a parent.
This was tough for me to watch. I see two people who still love each other but just can’t be together. I’ve been with my husband for 28 years - married 23. We met in high school. Marriage is so so hard. Especially since a lot of us don’t have all the right skills ect. Big hugs to both of you. I hope you can continue to be friends for the kids. Keep working. ❤
i praise you guys for your relationship, as a child of divorced parents, my childhood would of been so much better if BOTH my parents got a long. my highschool graduation was a mess because the adults in my life couldnt adult properly. please keep showing and guiding us how to have a civil relationship. I LOVE both of you, and I will continue to follow and support both of you! ♥♥
You can tell they both still love each other. Sometimes love isn't enough to fix the problems. But it's important for their co-parenting. ❤ The respect and love they have for each other is going to show their kids how to treat people even if they don't always agree 💯 with them. That's beautiful ❤
As an autistic person the implication that a vaccine caused his son’s autism is so insulting and disrespectful. Autism is a genetic factor - and no, vaccines don’t turn on those receptors or cause the gene to “take over”. The fact he thinks something caused it shows clearly he grieves a “normal child” or thinks theres something wrong with his son, autistic people are amazing and the world wouldn’t have ANY of the great inventions that we have on this earth if it wasn’t for autism or adhd. He’s likely smarter than both parents and only has issues communicating, which doesn’t mean the thoughts are not there
Yeah that was just a crazy lie people made up. It's genetics just like being Gay. Everyone has Autism in their family and everyone has Gay people in their family.. it just IS..
Yes, it's true. But I think the vaccines can really make their symptoms so much worse. They're so sensitive to environmental changes and jabbing autistics should be looked at closer because I'm pretty sure they're not helping them with the vaccine schedule they currently have
I went through an extreme amount of trauma because my parents wouldn’t divorce. My mom still talks about divorcing my father as I’m an adult and she won’t.
Right! What was that comment about “I lost my masculinity and that was the problem”….?! Like he “grew” now by becoming toxic and refusing to admit he effed up bad. Ugh. I feel bad for the kids and Laura.
Yeah, but when a man is in love, and has to leave what he loves behind. Maybe she wanted it more than he did? Maybe she said things to him that hurt. Sometimes some truths can come out, when having a civil discussion. Divorce is usually filed by women. And you can tell he still loves her, but has to put on a brave face. I'm sure the both made mistakes. And a big thing with men, is we want to be men, not have our wives make us look or feel weak.
Laura doesn't love him just used him to get famous and he is so broken because of her and is trying to be agreeable as she has him on a chain. I feel for Stephen. Laura is evil
I’m glad you’re addressing this. I can no longer follow Stephen’s social media because his recent views make me sad, but no hate, and I’m glad you intend to remain friends and be loving parents to Alfie and Poppy!
Same here. I don't believe he's always felt this way because they would have never gotten married. And if he did, he's been lying for over a decade. I wouldn't be able to stay married in either scenario.
He did the sterling men’s weekend, it’s obvious. When my boyfriend many years back did that weekend he came home and announced to me “honey, you are 100% in charge of the emotional side of this relationship” I was like WHAT? No thanks. Lol Then I got talked into doing the sterling women’s weekend, i’m not gonna say I didn’t get some great things out of it, but the guy who runs does workshops, Justin Sterling has an unbelievable history of not practicing what he preaches in his own relationship. And also, a lot of the ideas are very archaic. However, the biggest thing I got from the woman’s weekend is how to be super Duper, supportive to other women and allow them to support me. I carry that with me everywhere, I no longer am competitive with women and I’m so grateful to that weekend for teaching me that.
Yeah it’s really strange, he calls anyone who disagrees with him “the left” and launches into an attack when they’re simply pointing out that he’s being a hateful bigot. It doesn’t matter what side you’re on to see that. He has no clue the political affiliations of people he interacts with he just makes the assumption that if you don’t agree you’re 1. Attacking him 2. From the left. I’ve never really seen a harsh comment on his channel.
YES! I had to be DRAGGED into our apt when I was 6 to,”meet” my new step dad. He was a monster. I suffered abuse from him, he broke my arm over a bag of chips, I could go on. They finally divorced when I was 20. All the abuse had happened to our family. So bad. So severe. I love you Laura.
Oh my god that’s terrible. I also suffered a monster like that growing up all the way until I was 21 and my disabled brother had to be the other subject of his pain and he suffered along with me until we finally got released from him. I am so saddened to hear this it breaks my heart. Stay strong like you already have been ❤
My husband and I were told that we were rare.. we have a few kids on the spectrum, I’m on the spectrum, my Mum had gone through cancer and passed from it, and so much more.. and we were STRONGER THAN EVER. We had our problems, absolutely, but we loved each other and so we fought for each other. It’s bloody hard to have one child on the spectrum, and the more you have, the harder it gets. I lost my husband 2 years ago, and I would give anything to have him back, arguments and all
Good for Laura for pointing out that she’s not Stephen’s mother. The people telling her to do something about him are extremely controlling and ridiculous. Some people need to get a grip.
I completely agree. But u also have to understand that because these two were married most people are seeing his content and are wondering" is this what Laura is really like?"
Laura, you amaze me. After all you have been through, you still strive to maintain your relationship with Steven. Your statement about a women mourning the relationship during and a men mourning after, is spot on. When a woman tries over and over to explain to her partner and she repeatedly gets dismissed she eventually is done, once she shows she is done, the husband might clue in but it is too little, too late. It shows a great deal of maturity to successfully co parent..good for both of you. Meanwhile I no longer follow Steven because I find he is so volatile, he gives me anxiety. Best wishes Laura and I will continue to support you.
This same scenario occurred with my daughter. He dismissed her even when she begged him to be more attentive to family and friends. Especially their own family!!!!!! Avoided the kids for a time, refusing counseling. Laura was done!!!!! I'm concerned about him being off his meds totally
The first 10 years of my marriage were definitely the hardest. Things definetly got better after that. We werent stable and had a lot of issues that we were able to work out.
Amen! I think we get through things and with age and maturity we learn to really appreciate the other person. I always knew I loved him, he would be my first choice but now I really feel it. I know he’s a good man, good dad, hard worker and anyone would love him. I know he’s a catch. We have raised one son who is 19 and the others are getting older and we did it. But I see myself really respecting him more these days, after 18 years. :)
How did you manage that? We are in year 4 of our marriage and it's been really hard. Mainly because he's always dismissing how I'm feeling and telling me how I should be feeling. He isn't an effective communicator. There's only so much I can do to impact a conversation, but he needs to pull his side too. Aside from the fact that he's emotionally cheated on me and I found him on dating sites a few months back...its been hard. He claims to be a Christian and doesn't want to divorce me interestingly.
@@essem7878Apologies for asking such a harsh question, but why are you still with him? It sounds like he doesn't respect you and most of all has very little emotional inteligene :(
@Glowingfieldsphotography Sorry talk to text after all. I was saying as a good significant other. If your partner is going off the deep end, one would think That you, would as their significant other, want to take cue that they need to help the other partner get through.
@@annamullen2983 she specifically states she attempted to help multiple times even involved his parents mentioned therapy multiple times and he never cooperated to fix the relationship. He is a full blown adult who wasn’t accepting any help she isn’t his mother at the end of the day the peace and safety of her children was priority after her multiple attempts to fix a relationship that was getting really bad
I love seeing you two chatting together. It’s really nice to see when the media is full of angry divorcees and everyone wants that tea. It will be great for the kids to see this as well. They will grow to be angry if their parents are. So cool to see parents come together to make content and set an example.
I think Laura is very vulnerable right now and struggling to keep the emotions at bay…I truly feel for her and totally understand the propensity to disassociate
Yes without felt safety the brain naturally goes to it to cope. Therapy greatly helps and I don't think given how erratic he's been online it's probably for her safety
@@melissaparson you can clearly see that Laura wore the pants and admit to being the man in the relationship. Stephen had to walk on egg shells and suppress his entire identity throughout relationships and hide his true feelings and opinions.
I feel for Laura speaking about mourning the relationship while in it. My husband, having not dealt with his demons, was more absent than present and it was hurting us. I could speak on my perspective in the relationship till the words spilled out my ears. He would act as if he was interested in hearing and learning ways to do better for all of us including him but all this changes were surface level. Then he reverted back so easily. Until he, and I, actually, started digging down deep to learn about the root causes of the issues we were experiencing was it possible to begin healing our relationship. We just hit the 10 year mark and yes, those first 10 years were so hard. Fingers crossed for continued healing for you both. Healing is where freedom will exist.
YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING LAURA! I'm a child of divorce- and the only complaint I have is they should have gotten one sooner. As a little girl I would beg to go to my grandparents house to get away from the atmosphere that was around my parents. I would cry & cry when they would come to take me home. The relationships I formed with my parents did not become positive, and did not really start until after they had divorced. I then watched my mom go through another marriage that she tried so hard for, and I was telling her for at least a decade she needed to divorce- that staying with my brother & sisters father (half siblings isn't a term I like, but for the purpose of this comment) wasn't making things better it was hurting them- now they've also separated, and things are going so much better for my baby siblings (they're 14 & 16 - I'm 30 and my "full" brother is 26) and I'm so glad they are got their more peaceful life earlier on, so maybe the trauma won't be as bad as it was for me and my oldest brother.
He seems so giddy which honestly just feels off while she's sitting there clearly looking like she's holding back and emotional. Take care of yourself Laura, you deserve nothing but the best.
She looks so uncomfortable…you can definitely tell that she feels uncomfortable around him. I really felt bad for him when they broke up. But holy hell he’s views…it’s just sad
Laura, you are an example of fighting for yourself and for the wellbeing of your children - and you’ve managed to do it without being spiteful and with showing respect to the father of your children. I admire you. I wish you both all the best.
My parent’s divorce is one of the best things that happened to me. They were toxic together. I can’t imagine what I would have had to go through if they stayed together. My step Dad was also so amazing I couldn’t imagine the person I’d be without him raising me
I'm happy and sad for both of you but my biggest prayer for ya'll is that you both can continue to be friends and gently co-parent so that everyone ends up happy. Our opinions don't matter. Your happiness as the family you always will be is all that matters.
@katecoco1540 I want to believe she did that on purpose. It's subtle. It doesn't cause tension, and she's telling trans folks, "I see you. I support you. You are valid." I get that she needs to approach things delicately because this is the father of her children. I think she is quite emotionally intelligent.
You can see how raw both of their feelings still are. I really hope they both do what’s best for themselves and for their children. They really are amazing people and deserve all the happiness in the world and it makes me so sad that he had to go through everything he did and she just had to watch the train wreck. They love each other so much. I really hope they figure it out
It’s clear Stephen has changed a lot and you’ve grown apart. I’m glad you’re doing things amicably. My parents divorced when I was 9 and I was grateful.
@@colleenm4031 no that’s BS. Thankful to live in a time in our country where we are not forced to stay married to someone especially just bc they impregnated us. I stay in my marriage every day because I WANT to. No one should be forced to stay married. We don’t know their whole story. If she doesn’t want to be married to him then that’s enough.
@@colleenm4031 my parents remarried and tried to make it “work”. They fought. Hated each other. There was abuse. Physical violence. Sexual violence. I would’ve had a better teen life without my dad around. Divorce is a live saver sometimes
My parents eventually got divorced when I was 17 and moved out but my mom stayed together for the kids and I truly wish they would’ve got divorced years before. I actually begged my mom to divorce my dad he was/is a narcissist who abuses alcohol and drugs and put me my siblings and especially my mom through Hell! 😞 You guys are doing the right thing especially for your kids mental well being! ❤️
I am so proud of you Laura! You are truly handling all of this so gracefully and you're so unapologetically authentic yet respectful. I support your decision 100% and to think I was originally wanting you guys to get back together so badly 😂 You keep doing you and being an amazing person and loving your babies with your all! ❤
@@ChristinaFromRUclips I'm not going to be able to fully inform you of their entire history, especially with the amount of BS that's happened since then, in a comment section but he went from being sad and wanting his family back to being one of the most angry, confrontational, and hateful people I have ever seen online.
31:42 Laura's face when Stephen said that if you divorce after 10 years of marriage you're an idiot broke my heart! Her poor face while he was laughing it's just too much! Laura, I wish you and your kids all the best! ❤
He was repeating something he was told. You can repeat something without it automatically defaulting to him calling her an idiot. And you'll notice he had a 10 year marriage prior to her, as well.
I've found listening to this that Laura is playing the victim and takes no accountability for the failure of this relationship. Very shitty attitude...YOU, YOU, YOU...ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. ME, ME, ME... Hopefully they can get 50/50 placement so Laura won't guilt trip Stephen constantly. 🙄
Kids are smart. They can tell if you are putting up with someone you hate "for their sake". It also normalizes that kind of relationship for them in the future.
Right, just forget the kids and do what is good for the parent and forget how the kids are feeling. No, kids thrive in a home.... a Home, where both parents are together. Divorce can come later when the kids are older. When they are too young it is very confusing for them and impossible for them to understand. I know, because it has happened with my daughter and her husband. Now my grandbaby is a different child than before.
@1cjadefox yeah better that children grow up in a hostile environment 🙄 just because you have antiquated views that women should suffer through marriage no matter what happens behind closed doors doesn't mean those kids should
You have both come a very long way in your personal development. I think you should both be extremely proud of the fact you both have your children's best interests at heart and the way to ensure they are getting the best of 'you' is to have a respectful and calm relationship with each other. Who knows, as you carry on in your journey you may 'find each other' again... but for now, focus on the present, on being present for yourself, your children and each other as co-parents. Much love to you both x
have you seen his page? he is obsessively hateful toward trans people. just because he's speaking calmly here doesn't mean he didn't record like twenty videos within the past few months bashing and maligning trans and LGBTQ people generally
The love they so obviously still have for each other is heartbreaking to see. I'm still rooting for them and all the possibilities they have as a couple in the future.
I'm very grateful my parents divorced. They divorced when I was 2, and my sister was 4. My Mom asked for full custody only because my Dad was moving to the other side of Canada my sister and I were living on (We lived on Vancouver Island and my Dad was living in Nova Scotia) so that made it hard to get medical tests and especially surgery due to me having a liver transplant at 10 months old and needing both parents consent at that point. My Dad agreed which I very much appreciate as that allowed me to get the care I needed immediately at that time I needed which allowed my Mom to give the attention and love my sister needed too.
WOW these comments are NOT it. Honestly happiness is SO important, and if this is what you two need to make your lives work, do it! No judgment here, I'm surprised how many feel you should force a relationship at all.
Yeah you force it and you end up hating each other or despising each other instead of still saying friends and having a healthy relationship because they have kids and making it work versus trying to force it and stay together.
It's very interesting hearing his perception of himself while in the relationship and post relationship. It definitely seems like it was a building up thing.
Looking at this from a counselor standpoint, it’s clear the dialogue between them is very disconnected. When you see a separated couple come back into a space together and talk, it’s a lot to process without a mediator present, especially when you 1) have a partner that is blame shifting, 2) has media presence, and 3) is constantly spreading content that is controversial.
Agree... I think they have not fully processed their feelings and situation in private. This is basically them processing it in full view of public scrutiny. I can feel their pain, both of them :(
I feel this. It is so - heartbreaking - but also very beautiful. Some people just are not a good match. I love that you are great friends and co-parents. That is a blessing to your kids and yourselves. Maybe it's the best outcome.
Specifically just commenting for the part at 28:25 when the topic of toughing out a marriage for your kids came up. I am 26 and have 3 siblings, 23, 19, and 17. Our parents stuck it out "for the kids". Couldn't make it to the 17 year old graduating. I have diagnosed PTSD, my doctors were willing to go on record to the judge in the divorce hearing to confirm that my father was the root cause for my PTSD. The horrific things we endured because my parents were "toughing it out" are forever etched into my memory. I had PTSD for so long by the time I was diagnosed, I didn't even realize I was experiencing flashbacks. Divorce and co-parent if you genuinely want to make your kids happy, because if things were bad enough to even consider separating... don't put your kids through it.
My parents did this too. They did wind up ultimately getting through it, AND they didn’t get through it until we were out of the house. I have so much anxiety and PTSD. I didn’t learn how to have a healthy relationship because there wasn’t one modeled for me.
I just feel uncomfortable with the masculinity, weakness & vulnerability talking. I feel sad who he has become…also, my son is asd & nothing gave him autism, his brain is literally different. I love Laura & I don’t hate Stephen but I feel sad for him
100% agree with Laura, my parents divorced when i was 17 and i wish they had done it so much sooner, i was the last kid at home and it was so hard. Once they were done it was so much easier, i only wish it hadnt been during my senior year in high school.
@@kimcallaghan3581 oh I do hope they stay civil and are able to parent their children. May they each find happiness on their own. They choose to divorce so I will be supportive. Not my place to judge the why.
you can see how laura is fighting to dear life or whatever is the saying... to try to speak her true but at the same time keep thing in peace with stephen, she knows that she cant say something that triggers stephen because shit can go down like really quickly... like she just say to him... i mean.. you are autistic... my dad is autistic... theres nothing weird with alfie being autistic and still stephen is like... well yeah but i have other data... like ... u can not reasoning with him. i really feel soorry for laura you can see how she just can´t believe who stephen has turn in to. like she feels like she actually never knew her husband at all.
I'm seeing that too and this therapy retreat he was talking about seems extremely problematic. Ranting on about "married people should stick together for the kids" and "divorcing after 10yrs is stupid" and constantly talking about his masculinity like... sounds like he's got a closet full of maga gear 😪
I can see the love you both have for one another. I hope that continues on while living separate but well adjusted lives. All your kids want is to see both parents happy and healthy. Wishing you both healing journeys!
As watching you guys from whenever you had help Helen smash page, I absolutely loved how adorable and authentic and hilarious. You are Laura, it hurts to see you guys separate and I think understanding and having space for someone is so important as someone that has a very loving husband, I relate to you in a lot of ways, but you can’t pour from a cup that’s empty. Mourning a relationship is so hard. But you both are amazing. Sending good vibes
100% I am autistic and so are 2 of my brothers. None of us are vaccinated. My mother received no vaccinations. My son is autistic and also didn't receive vaccinations. He's extremely unwell mentally.
Perhaps there is autism and then perhaps there is vaccine damage (actual thing) and perhaps some vaccine damage symptoms can present similar to autism symptoms. A family member of mine has a nephew whose family is being compensated for vaccine damage and he has autistic like symptoms.
Love you guys! This podcast made me cry. I respect how you handled this conversation and life change and how you are putting the kids first and still keeping a friendship and good co-parenting relationship.
It’s not toxic to have a discussion. Toxicity is more like narcissism where their direct emotional control over someone hurts them. That wasn’t the case in this conversation.
As a child of divorce I want to stress that sometimes it IS the right thing to do. My parents were teen parents and felt they had to get married because it was the “right” thing to do. They divorced when I was four and I have said time and time again that I’m so glad my parents separated because all they did was fight and hurt each other. They both always said that they loved and respected each other more when they divorced. It’s not true for everyone but it IS true very often. I’m 28 now and have a beautiful relationship with each of my parents individually and they still ask about each other and love each other. We’re still a family, it’s just different :) Just wanted to throw in my personal experience after seeing you guys wanting input. Love you guys and at the end of the day it’s what is best for YOUR family. Always best to try to keep an open mind and heart.❤
I loved your channel, the funny family videos were always so much fun to watch, it made my day everytime I saw you guys just having fun with ur kids...it's almost been a year I guess, and suddenly I remembered about your channel for some reason only to find out about your divorce. It must be so hard to deal with, I hope that both of you and your family will be able to get through it, especially those kids. Take care!
I was completely invested in this conversation you both had in this one. I can tell Laura is still struggling internally about the situation but is also trying to heal in her own time. I feel she is being patient with herself, which is healthy. But Co-parenting and staying friends is the best way to show the kids that both Mommy and Daddy are still together in some aspects and there is nothing wrong with that. Accountability was shown on both ends which I see is tremendous progress in my opinion. However, it is never healthy for the kids for the parents to stay in a anger fueled marriage, just for the sake of the kids. It sets very bad examples for the kids and they do usually end up being a product of their environment. Since, you guys are no logner married but are working together as friends to raise those beautiful babies, will help them in the future. You guys are doing amazing, and for Laura, stay away of those comments. Those comments will never validate the real progress that you are actually making.
I just watched the video on his channel and I wish he would actually listen to Laura and respect her boundaries instead of CONSTANTLY being manipulative pushing to stay together "for the kids" ! I can see she's so fed up of it, he does it so often now she just gives a apathetic sigh and moves on in order to stay civil for parentings sake and hats of to her for that !! Not only does it show a complete lack of respect to her...all it does is reinforce why she's left him ! He's worryingly delusional if he thinks attending one cult like mens retreat has solved every flaw and issue he have ever had. Despite him admitting to the fact he's a better parent now than when they were together he continuously says they NEED to be together for the "children's sake " yet again reinforces how selfish and out of touch he is! It's not for the kids he was less attentive when you were together, it has nothing to do with their happiness and everything to do with his control. At this point Laura just nervously laughs and moves on purely to be civil because even when she makes it clear that she doesn't currently want to try agin he just ignores her wishes over and over and still uses manipulative..guilt tripping language. Laura I see you and support you 100%, you are an incredible mother and a good person. Continue to reinforce your boundaries in a civil way and get yourself legally set and covered in case things get worse. ❤️
@@lanaadler5786yes the gaslighting and whataboutisms was insane! She literally said she was uncomfortable being attacked by his supporters and his response was “well the attacks I get from the left are insane”. He chose his content topics and to engage in controversial topics. He chose this. Her page and content is comedy. She didn’t chose to engage in controversy so for her to be attacked for views they are assuming, that is wrong and he should empathize.
@amandaboyens, so many scenarios of home gaslighting: 1 example, she states everything was divided equally in the divorce, he agrees, then immediately says you got THE BETTER HOUSE!!!!!!! SHE GENTLY AVOIDS THIS BY SAYING I'VE GOT THE KIDS WHO YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE ANY TIME YOU WANT DUE TO LIVING A MILE APART.
I can see the heaviness in your eyes, Laura. This is big on your heart as it would be. Stephen looks like he’s trying to make peace with it. I love how mature conversation amongst so much speculation and all the “good for you, he’s crap” comments. He’s the father of their children, have respect as she does. Follow Laura people. Negative comments aren’t needed. Praise them for sharing their discussion.
I'm a child psychologist and I can tell you that staying together for the children NEVER EVER works. Also, the best schedule should be for the child. Alternative days won't be better for them when they get older, watch for their cues & needs.
It’s very refreshing to see 2 parents come together and coparent so nicely for the children ! You can really tell you both still have lots of love however sometimes divorce is just what is best! Best of luck to your next chapters ❤️❤️
You are both your own people. I’m glad you’re touching on this. Because I’ve seen people compare you two. I might not agree at all with what Steven says. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to harass either of you over it. He’s allowed to have his own feelings. I’m just glad you guys are able to be civil to one another 🥰
At first I really wanted you to both work out. But, he's pretty insane. It's clear he has no identity and needs to really soul search. I wish you both the best and hope you can continue to love eachother and support each other even after the divorce. Good luck to you
It’s interesting to see that Stephens new followers are attacking Laura for potentially having different views or because they’re separated and Stephens response wasn’t to condemn that, but rather talk about all of the hate he is getting instead. The hate he is getting is directly related to his newly found positions, while Laura’s are because she’s existing near his universe. Unfortunately it tracks.
@@danaporter7531 It's not just for the kids, though. That just feels like a manipulation tactic because he still loves Laura (but doesn't want to/know how to be a good partner to her) and has lost the idea he had for his life and his masculinity, apparently.
Agreed. Like when he was talking about being able to talk to his guys or w.e and not his partner and she was clearly being sarcastic about how "good" that was, and yet he didn't catch that.
Yes. It's heartbreaking seeing this SAME pattern again. She brings up something that's REALLY hurting her and he doesn't hear it, doesn't acknowledge or own his actions and just dismisses and minimises her pain in a split second and tries to compete with it bringing in something where he's a victim. It's so sad. Like when she was almost crying saying "The type of radical followers you attract are really being horrible to me online," Instead of him owning his role in encouraging a Lynch mob against her with his subtle blaming of her and constantly playing the victim -- he just says--"Oh the left attack me and they're awful to me." Um. No Stephan. Listen to her. Please!!!!!
She was not being sarcastic when she said it was good that he should take his problems to other men or his sponsor. She genuinely agrees and talks about how she could have been better about talking problems out with her sponsor. Stephen takes accountability in this video. He apologizes, he admits where he was wrongs, he admits he lacks relationship skills. You can see pain in Laura but it’s not because she is feeling unheard in this moment. I think she is still mourning their marriage. I cried at the end of this video because I can feel her pain and as someone who loves them both I’m sad to see the marriage end as well. The love they still have is a beautiful thing to see and I wish them both nothing but the best.
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let her go i did all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring her back
I think you both come to a fork in the road and needed to go your own paths but I like how you've left eachother with love and can co parent effectively together is amazing
my parents got divorced. My dad moved just a few streets away from my mom. I was able to walk to his house. My parents stayed best friends all the way until my father died. We had every holiday together, birthday, celebration, and hardship. They were a disaster living together. Constantly fighting. Put them in two separate houses and they were an unstoppable force of love and team work. It's more than possible. Best wishes to you both!
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My ex husband and I did the same thing until he passed in 2017. We were the best of friends.
I’m so confused by this: what did they fight about when together?
My parents get a long better as friends vs being married and we did holidays/trips together. Even after my mom got remarried. So I agree that it is possible 🥰
Because your father really loved your mother. He must have suffered terribly for so many years. Nowadays, unfortunately, most women abandon men. For various reasons, sometimes nonsense
She hit the nail on the head. A woman mourns the relationship in the relationship and a man does it after.
Except my situation, I can tell he's waiting for me to be back to work and steady... then he's leaving. Had his baby, had to stay home and get supports in place due to his autism... but hey, make me a single parent because the attention isnt all on you (my bf)
Omg I felt that
I must be a women then
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Lol, it's not the rule. If you're a person more in tune to your emotions and put value in your relationships, you'll feel it like lots (not all) of women feel. I know some women who are more emotionally unavailable and find they end up mourning after, due to not caring enough to pay attention to the signs while the relationship was crashing and burning. The men/women like that, all act so shocked when it's over!
Thats because women usually initiate the breakup.
I was today years old when I found out they just got divorced
Me
Me, today.
Me today
Me right now.
Same. 02/09/2024
This is heartbreaking. She looks so hurt. Someone else in the comments said he’s in denial, I agree. He’s lost so much weight, and in his eyes he’s just a bit.. manic. They’re talking so respectfully to each other, it’s incredible. It’s just so sad, the whole situation.
Its post break up fitness.
She looks irritated af at him.
He looks depressed and is attempting to hide it.
I think the manic is possibly from sorrow and Adderall combined
@@tkatrich3yeah, b3cause he lost his freaking mind
Man this is heartbreaking. Seeing the pain on Laura's face.. My goodness, I wish you all the best.
Like when she said a woman mourns the relationship during the relationship
Wow, I haven't seen these two in over a year and I'm sad they're divorcing but it's nice to see how amicable they both are ❤ I wish all divorces and or relationships could end this way! Very mature.
me too
Stephanie,
Me either. I thought they had just gone away off line. Then I recently (just in the couple days) found her on FB again.
Now i find out all this and I’m kinda heartbroken but then again I’m heartbroken for ANY couple going through a breakup & divorce.
I feel like most couples who can be amicable try staying together, that’s why most divorces are ugly
at least for the video, who knows whats really going on when the cameras are off
Came for the tea 🫖 stayed for the thoughtful discussion
My parents got divorced when I was 7 and I can’t even imagine how miserable the whole family would’ve been if they tried to “stay together for the kids.”
Well, trying to stay together for the kids actually involves TRYING.
If not for the sake of the live for your partner but for the love of your kids.
People today doesn’t know what really trying is, in a relationship.
The whole point is to TRY, which means letting go of selfish desires for the sake of being stable for the children 😂 divorce is too easy for people to just quit. And this is on BOTH sides.
It takes a lot of healing to be sitting in front of each other as adults and parents. You guys will do just fine ❤
I started watching you all when you were doing the Steven pick up lines. Then of course things changed but I still love you both so much equally and watch both of your all's content. I have 3 kids two with Autism , not with the father anymore and were great friends. So I can relate to you all. Love you both
My heart hurts for both of you. Even the most amicable split up is still major/life changing and has so much emotion and grief. I'm happy you're doing what is best for you and the kids. ❤
As someone who mourned the relationship already, Laura has been through all the stages of grief, including denial. Stephen is still in the denial stage. He doesn't realize it's too late to save their marriage. In time he will and they both as well as their children will be better off for it.
Yes I follow him & Laura, and like a lot of women, she left the relationship emotionally before they physically separated. My mother did this also. Women can't always just up & end a marriage. They will be more deliberate & plan ahead before telling their husband they want to be separated.
“In time he will” No, I don’t think he will. He will despair to the utter end of his days.
The children will be better off for it is the biggest lie ever told.
Right. And its hitting him now, a year later. I think bc she was so nice ane open w him, he had this subconscious feeling they still had a chance. Sometimes u have to cut your ex off for them to GET that its truly over
I enjoyed this.. I enjoy Stephen in this space. My heart broke when Laura said “i was mourning the relationship for years” and Stephens reaction was so sad. You are both amazing to come together like this. I wish you both continued peace and healing
I did the same in my marriage. I mourned the loss and came to terms with it after begging him for counseling or anything. I then proceeded to tell him we were divorcing and he acted shocked, begged me to stay, threatened me, did anything but it was OVER for me.
People should really step back and realize how painful this is for you both and at the end of the day you deserve the respect and privacy and although you shared your relationship/family we don't have a right to information or to tear you down.
Love to you Laura ❤❤❤
Not to mention how brave they are for putting themselves out there!
They don’t really get privacy because they put their whole life out here public ally. But I love both of them. They can’t really have it both ways though
Yeah, not after they shared it on the internet for everyone to see, people are going to have opinions
Very well said.
They dont want privacy. They're putting their entire lives online for everyone to see. They want to monetize it. 😂😂
Dude listening to you two speak about your kids makes me want to bawl my eyes out. Such excellent parents your kids are so lucky to have you and you're lucky to have them ❤
no they aren't. If these 2 really loved their kids they'd work things out that didn't involve each side abandoning them.
@@holder1971 I disagree, I think the family unit is important and beautiful, I have a Son and work hard with my partner to maintain a healthy, loving relationship so he has both parents together. But my parents were a terrible couple and I was way happier when they separated, sometimes good parents are better parents not together, it depends on the situation and we don't know how their relationship was effecting the kids, even in small ways, that would have been detrimental long term.
I’m hard of hearing and even with AirPods turned up all the way, it’s still hard to hear you guys. I just thought I’d let you know. Very proud of both of you for doing this! It must not be the easiest thing to do but your strength is inspiring ❤
Have you tried turning on the RUclips captions? I use that all the time. Let me say, it isn't always accurate and can make hysterical mistakes, but it's obvious when it happens. Most of the time it can be helpful.
@@thnkx I almost always use captions when I can but I listened while at work and I can’t have my phone out like that 😕😕 but it wasn’t bad enough to where I couldn’t listen! I was able to get through! I just had a harder time than with other podcasts is all 🤷🏻♂️😊
Thank you for saying that about the volume, I was getting ready to say the same. The person on the microphone needs to bump up the volume. The commercials were blairing when I had it loud enough to hear them talking.
I noticed this too! I’m not hard of hearing but I have my volume all the way up and even the sound of me preparing and eating my food made me have to turn on captions 😂
@@CelesteOcoileainright I have a hard time hearing to
I think the people picking sides are the most vocal about it. There’s a lot of us remaining quiet who just love you both and want the best for you both. ❤
Exactly… It’s not about sides it’s about the person.
I won’t tolerate victim blaming. … I don’t know why I answered the way I did but this is what I’m seeing allot in hateful comments on choosing sides…
what a beautiful comment, thank you for putting this ""side"" out there
Exactly this.. the sensible people ;)
Agreed ❤
I agree but with that said Stephan has changed did a 180 and now is someone he wasnt before. So I cant support the new him because I do not gel with what he is now putting out there. I followed and watched his videos when he first started until he started spewing stuff that I disagree with so unfollowed him. She so far has stayed true with what she has always put out there so I support her.
You’re doing the right thing. I was a child of divorce and I was relieved when my parents split. Coparent and be kind to each other - you have already found the right way. Kudos to you both!
Stephen, NO child wants to live in a broken home BUT no one wants to live with two adults who hate eachother and fight and scream and hurt eachother every day of their lives.
What makes you think they were fighting and screaming at all? They've both said neither can even remember why they separated to begin with.
@jypsyfalcon4076 I'm not talking specifically about them, but in general about parents who do or do not get divorced. I'm sure my experience is similar to others whose parents got divorced and experienced the screaming, crying and emotional abuse.
I think people sometimes underestimate the problems that come with living in a broken home vs coming from one. Living in the toxicity daily is rough and causes a lot of damage. Divorce is hard too! But two amicable parents in different homes, who are respectful and supportive (which they seem to be accomplishing) is a good thing. Especially if they're unable to do the same living under one roof.
Hate each other?
@@denisemeissner1015 I don't think she was saying Stephen and Laura currently hate each other. But they could end up hating each other if they stay married. Like my parents. Married 57 years. I'm 43 and I've never seen them happy with each other.
Maybe it's just me, but I sense tons of tension. I know it's peaceful, and as respectful as possible, but there seems to be a lot of tongue biting and repressed resentment on some stuff. Keeping the friendship alive and co-parenting is a huge feat in those circumstances, and I really commend them on treading the line between being genuine and being respectful of one another's views. I really hope they heal individually and find their footing. Change is hard, and they're clearly working harder.
Yes. He's terrified that if he crosses her he'll lose his kids. That would create some tension I think.
Have you ever been through a divorce? There's always some tension when the dynamic changes.
Uncomfortable and cringe
Absolutely
Yeahhh a bit awkward. Bless their hearts. I REALLY like both of them
I identify with Laura so much oh my goodness when she says “I tried” and that she mourned during the end before it all ended. Like I FELT that
You can tell Laura is really holding back at points. I can so sense her stress, pain, and unease. She is trying SO hard keeping it all together. I feel such compassion for her.
He seems really out of touch at times. He totally glossed over and dismissed her pain and tried one-up her when she mentioned hate from his followers. He also dismissed her when she discussed her parents' marriage. And joked casually about how they are divorcing at 10 years. Very sad.
You seem to forget he does have an autism diagnosis…. You need to factor that in. Social & emotional cues are not his strong suit.
Yeah those parts really saddened me. It's a pattern in a lot of their interactions. He doesn't hear or acknowledge her pain or feelings and dismisses and minimises it and changes the subject super fast to talk about his own pain on an unrelated topic. Very very sad.
@@theskincareskinny5006 I'm aware and do factor it in. Being ND doesn't change the pain and distress that it causes the other person whose feelings are being dismissed. It's still sad and unfortunate. And here's the thing: he wasn't willing to do family or couples therapy to work on himself and help the family relationships. Not everything can be excused by being ND. He does seem to at least on the surface take accountability for it, and I give him credit for that. But that doesn't diminish the real pain caused.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! AND SO MANY OTHERS I PICKED UP ON. I ACTUALLY SHOWED THIS TO MY PSYCH. PROFESSOR WHO IMMEDIATELY STATED TURN IN A PAPER REGARDING MY THEORIES ON THIS SPECIFIC CONVERSATION. I THOUGHT HE WAS ABSOLUTELY JOKING....TO MY DEMISE HE WAS NOT!!!!
That was REALLY hard to watch. I am also autistic and I can still manage to listen to people and properly respond. We are still capable of gaslighting and that’s what that was. Instead of him saying, “I’m sorry that’s happening to you,” and addressing his followers immediately right here to STOP, he said “well I am getting attacked by the left and they’re just awful,” and I read his comments. I don’t usually see people being terrible to him. What I see is folks telling him he’s being inappropriate, insulting, and insensitive for absolutely no reason, and he calls ANYONE who disagrees with him “the left or liberal,” I am neither and anytime I have said something he didn’t want to hear he’s responded with, “you’re attacking me, you’re a liberal.” It has happened twice now and I am never attacking or even REMOTELY rude in my comments.
That breaks my heart that people felt like they needed to pick sides. I love both of you & love how different yall are.
Stephen is looking so good and healthy and Laura looks good… but sad. And yes, dissociated. 😔 It’s a hard thing to go through. It just takes time. ❤
I wish I was as cool-headed and understanding as Laura. If anyone can get through this absolutely impossible situation it is her. Her kids are so incredibly lucky.
Right?!
The only way I will watch Stephen is with Laura in this kind of space in her videos… i cannot watch him anymore. I don’t mind the vaccine stuff, I just can’t handle all his hate.
I feel for her. Her tears. She’s incredibly mature. ❤❤❤
I don't trust Stephen. He is all over the place. He isn't handling reality very well.
You can't be serious. I wish Stephan could get his kids away from her. She is a nutcase
I absolutely love Steven. He’s really waking up to the crazy world we live in.
All of the liberals sound like they are reading off of a telemarketer script, “Stephens mentally ill, he’s having an episode, he’s a hater, he’s dangerous and unstable, no wonder why Laura divorced him”.
It’s like they’ve all been plugged into AI and they’ve turned into cyborgs.
They are all falsely accusing Stephen because they are so threatened that he has a mind of his own and has rebelled against the hive-mind mentality.
It’s so creepy!
My parents finally got a divorce when I was 19 and living out of the house. I had started telling my mother to leave my father when I was 13, literally telling her “if you divorce dad, I’ll be okay, it won’t hurt me.” But they kept insisting on staying together, supposedly for me.
I cannot even begin to describe how much happier they are now that they’re divorced. How much better my relationship got with each of them as individuals. Obviously things aren’t perfect, they’re pretty overwhelmingly damaged people at this point, but my only reaction to learning they separated was “thank god, finally.” I only wish they had done it before I started high school.
“Staying together for the kids” is the stupidest thing ever. It’s a lie adults tell themselves when they are too cowardly to leave a bad situation. Staying together for the kids teaches your children to accept their circumstances when they are miserable instead of learning to take agency over their own happiness. If you stay in your marriage “for your kids” you are failing as a parent because you are failing to sufficiently teach your children healthy independence-and raising your children to be a happy, healthy adults is your entire job as a parent.
💯 this. I wish my mother had left my father and never turned back. It would have spared years of extended pain for everyone, including little me.
Absolutely!! 💯 ❤❤❤
This was tough for me to watch. I see two people who still love each other but just can’t be together. I’ve been with my husband for 28 years - married 23. We met in high school. Marriage is so so hard. Especially since a lot of us don’t have all the right skills ect. Big hugs to both of you. I hope you can continue to be friends for the kids. Keep working. ❤
i praise you guys for your relationship, as a child of divorced parents, my childhood would of been so much better if BOTH
my parents got a long. my highschool graduation was a mess because the adults in my life couldnt adult properly. please keep showing and guiding us how to have a civil relationship. I LOVE both of you, and I will continue to follow and support both of you! ♥♥
You can tell they both still love each other. Sometimes love isn't enough to fix the problems. But it's important for their co-parenting. ❤ The respect and love they have for each other is going to show their kids how to treat people even if they don't always agree 💯 with them. That's beautiful ❤
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As an autistic person the implication that a vaccine caused his son’s autism is so insulting and disrespectful. Autism is a genetic factor - and no, vaccines don’t turn on those receptors or cause the gene to “take over”.
The fact he thinks something caused it shows clearly he grieves a “normal child” or thinks theres something wrong with his son, autistic people are amazing and the world wouldn’t have ANY of the great inventions that we have on this earth if it wasn’t for autism or adhd.
He’s likely smarter than both parents and only has issues communicating, which doesn’t mean the thoughts are not there
Alfie isn’t autistic because of vaccines! My nephew is autistic and at 25 has never had a single vaccine
100%
plenty of people are diagnosed who didn't get vaccinated.
The vaccine myth was debunked long ago and I am a parent of a child, now adult on spectrum.
Yeah that was just a crazy lie people made up. It's genetics just like being Gay. Everyone has Autism in their family and everyone has Gay people in their family.. it just IS..
Also autism has existed in some form or another before vaccines - to suggest otherwise is hubris.
Yes, it's true. But I think the vaccines can really make their symptoms so much worse. They're so sensitive to environmental changes and jabbing autistics should be looked at closer because I'm pretty sure they're not helping them with the vaccine schedule they currently have
Laura you seem so much more yourself and authentic and light and glowing
I agree with that. It’s because she is not working as the comedian anymore. Not because of the separation.
I went through an extreme amount of trauma because my parents wouldn’t divorce. My mom still talks about divorcing my father as I’m an adult and she won’t.
Laura, you're so much better than me at handling his obvious passive-aggressiveness being thrown at you. You're a tough one.
Right! What was that comment about “I lost my masculinity and that was the problem”….?! Like he “grew” now by becoming toxic and refusing to admit he effed up bad. Ugh. I feel bad for the kids and Laura.
Yeah, but when a man is in love, and has to leave what he loves behind. Maybe she wanted it more than he did? Maybe she said things to him that hurt. Sometimes some truths can come out, when having a civil discussion. Divorce is usually filed by women. And you can tell he still loves her, but has to put on a brave face. I'm sure the both made mistakes. And a big thing with men, is we want to be men, not have our wives make us look or feel weak.
His passive-aggressiveness? Oh please.. 🤦♀️🤣
Laura doesn't love him just used him to get famous and he is so broken because of her and is trying to be agreeable as she has him on a chain. I feel for Stephen. Laura is evil
He’s become so red-pilled it’s crazy.
I’m glad you’re addressing this. I can no longer follow Stephen’s social media because his recent views make me sad, but no hate, and I’m glad you intend to remain friends and be loving parents to Alfie and Poppy!
God I thought I was the only one. I just wrote the same but in longer form because that's what I do .. I always over explain..
His recent views are educating many! Whether you follow him or not wake up. The world as we once knew it is crumbling right before our very eyes!
Same here. I don't believe he's always felt this way because they would have never gotten married. And if he did, he's been lying for over a decade. I wouldn't be able to stay married in either scenario.
@@dreamweaver5048leave trans people alone.
@@annalisavasquezRight, people literally just want to exist and people are like "wow, I don't like that it should be illegal."
He did the sterling men’s weekend, it’s obvious. When my boyfriend many years back did that weekend he came home and announced to me “honey, you are 100% in charge of the emotional side of this relationship” I was like WHAT? No thanks. Lol
Then I got talked into doing the sterling women’s weekend, i’m not gonna say I didn’t get some great things out of it, but the guy who runs does workshops, Justin Sterling has an unbelievable history of not practicing what he preaches in his own relationship. And also, a lot of the ideas are very archaic. However, the biggest thing I got from the woman’s weekend is how to be super Duper, supportive to other women and allow them to support me. I carry that with me everywhere, I no longer am competitive with women and I’m so grateful to that weekend for teaching me that.
"People can't be CIVIL anymore! "
-Stephen
I spit out my tea. This guy genuinely thinks he's an arbiter of civility?
Yikes.
Yeah, I laughed at that too. He called a woman a c*nt on Facebook, because she called him out for bashing transgender people.
Right? He's so divisive and posts hateful shit. He's awful
Yeah it’s really strange, he calls anyone who disagrees with him “the left” and launches into an attack when they’re simply pointing out that he’s being a hateful bigot. It doesn’t matter what side you’re on to see that. He has no clue the political affiliations of people he interacts with he just makes the assumption that if you don’t agree you’re 1. Attacking him 2. From the left. I’ve never really seen a harsh comment on his channel.
@@pxljedi999 the c word is everyday language for most British folks. They aren’t offended by it. Wanker (jerk) is another popular word they use. Lol…
what are you talking about?
YES! I had to be DRAGGED into our apt when I was 6 to,”meet” my new step dad. He was a monster. I suffered abuse from him, he broke my arm over a bag of chips, I could go on. They finally divorced when I was 20. All the abuse had happened to our family. So bad. So severe. I love you Laura.
Oh my god that’s terrible. I also suffered a monster like that growing up all the way until I was 21 and my disabled brother had to be the other subject of his pain and he suffered along with me until we finally got released from him. I am so saddened to hear this it breaks my heart. Stay strong like you already have been ❤
Nobody is saying to stay married for the kids when being abused. It's the marriages where people are not working at it
My husband and I were told that we were rare.. we have a few kids on the spectrum, I’m on the spectrum, my Mum had gone through cancer and passed from it, and so much more.. and we were STRONGER THAN EVER. We had our problems, absolutely, but we loved each other and so we fought for each other. It’s bloody hard to have one child on the spectrum, and the more you have, the harder it gets. I lost my husband 2 years ago, and I would give anything to have him back, arguments and all
Good for Laura for pointing out that she’s not Stephen’s mother. The people telling her to do something about him are extremely controlling and ridiculous. Some people need to get a grip.
This!
Exactly. I'm not sure what people are expecting her to do about him having those views. He's entitled to share his own opinions.
I completely agree. But u also have to understand that because these two were married most people are seeing his content and are wondering" is this what Laura is really like?"
It's still disturbing what their children will be exposed to when they're with him. He's bonkers.
@@AnnaBeeeeeethey both said they’re not exposing their children and letting them figure it out instead.
Laura, you amaze me. After all you have been through, you still strive to maintain your relationship with Steven. Your statement about a women mourning the relationship during and a men mourning after, is spot on. When a woman tries over and over to explain to her partner and she repeatedly gets dismissed she eventually is done, once she shows she is done, the husband might clue in but it is too little, too late.
It shows a great deal of maturity to successfully co parent..good for both of you.
Meanwhile I no longer follow Steven because I find he is so volatile, he gives me anxiety.
Best wishes Laura and I will continue to support you.
This same scenario occurred with my daughter. He dismissed her even when she begged him to be more attentive to family and friends. Especially their own family!!!!!! Avoided the kids for a time, refusing counseling. Laura was done!!!!! I'm concerned about him being off his meds totally
I mourned my relationship for years before I ended it 😢
The first 10 years of my marriage were definitely the hardest. Things definetly got better after that. We werent stable and had a lot of issues that we were able to work out.
Amen! I think we get through things and with age and maturity we learn to really appreciate the other person. I always knew I loved him, he would be my first choice but now I really feel it. I know he’s a good man, good dad, hard worker and anyone would love him. I know he’s a catch. We have raised one son who is 19 and the others are getting older and we did it. But I see myself really respecting him more these days, after 18 years. :)
@boib8765 no one really I guess. Just agreeing with the sentiment that the first 10 years are hard but can be better after that.
How did you manage that? We are in year 4 of our marriage and it's been really hard. Mainly because he's always dismissing how I'm feeling and telling me how I should be feeling. He isn't an effective communicator. There's only so much I can do to impact a conversation, but he needs to pull his side too. Aside from the fact that he's emotionally cheated on me and I found him on dating sites a few months back...its been hard. He claims to be a Christian and doesn't want to divorce me interestingly.
@@essem7878Apologies for asking such a harsh question, but why are you still with him? It sounds like he doesn't respect you and most of all has very little emotional inteligene :(
As a child I wished and prayed my parents would get divorced because I was so sick of the toxic environment. Fights and instability.
Not Stephen saying him trying to off himself and lying and going literally crazy is not enough for divorce lmaooo I can’t with this man!!
There are sometimes where your partner may be going off the deep end and that would be your cute to be a significant other and get him help?😊
@@annamullen2983I’m sorry, can you rephrase? I’m trying to figure out what you’re saying, because I think I agree with you.
@Glowingfieldsphotography Sorry talk to text after all. I was saying as a good significant other. If your partner is going off the deep end, one would think That you, would as their significant other, want to take cue that they need to help the other partner get through.
@@annamullen2983 she specifically states she attempted to help multiple times even involved his parents mentioned therapy multiple times and he never cooperated to fix the relationship. He is a full blown adult who wasn’t accepting any help she isn’t his mother at the end of the day the peace and safety of her children was priority after her multiple attempts to fix a relationship that was getting really bad
@@annamullen2983 ok, that’s what I thought you meant to say & yes, I completely agree with you!
I love seeing you two chatting together. It’s really nice to see when the media is full of angry divorcees and everyone wants that tea. It will be great for the kids to see this as well. They will grow to be angry if their parents are. So cool to see parents come together to make content and set an example.
Best comment here
I think Laura is very vulnerable right now and struggling to keep the emotions at bay…I truly feel for her and totally understand the propensity to disassociate
Yes. This. I worry she’s on egg shells as she has no choice because fighting would not be easy with him.
Yes without felt safety the brain naturally goes to it to cope. Therapy greatly helps and I don't think given how erratic he's been online it's probably for her safety
@@melissaparsonStephen is whose walking on eggshells 😂. Laura doesn't care, it's obvious. She said " I grieved the relationship when I was in it"
@@Chelsea-ph6cserratic? Because he sees through the b.s.?..
@@melissaparson you can clearly see that Laura wore the pants and admit to being the man in the relationship. Stephen had to walk on egg shells and suppress his entire identity throughout relationships and hide his true feelings and opinions.
I feel for Laura speaking about mourning the relationship while in it. My husband, having not dealt with his demons, was more absent than present and it was hurting us. I could speak on my perspective in the relationship till the words spilled out my ears. He would act as if he was interested in hearing and learning ways to do better for all of us including him but all this changes were surface level. Then he reverted back so easily. Until he, and I, actually, started digging down deep to learn about the root causes of the issues we were experiencing was it possible to begin healing our relationship. We just hit the 10 year mark and yes, those first 10 years were so hard. Fingers crossed for continued healing for you both. Healing is where freedom will exist.
Can you describe these physical manifestations of true improvement and changes of him?
YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING LAURA! I'm a child of divorce- and the only complaint I have is they should have gotten one sooner. As a little girl I would beg to go to my grandparents house to get away from the atmosphere that was around my parents. I would cry & cry when they would come to take me home. The relationships I formed with my parents did not become positive, and did not really start until after they had divorced. I then watched my mom go through another marriage that she tried so hard for, and I was telling her for at least a decade she needed to divorce- that staying with my brother & sisters father (half siblings isn't a term I like, but for the purpose of this comment) wasn't making things better it was hurting them- now they've also separated, and things are going so much better for my baby siblings (they're 14 & 16 - I'm 30 and my "full" brother is 26) and I'm so glad they are got their more peaceful life earlier on, so maybe the trauma won't be as bad as it was for me and my oldest brother.
He seems so giddy which honestly just feels off while she's sitting there clearly looking like she's holding back and emotional. Take care of yourself Laura, you deserve nothing but the best.
@@LoopedNonsenseI think he's manic.
She looks so uncomfortable…you can definitely tell that she feels uncomfortable around him. I really felt bad for him when they broke up. But holy hell he’s views…it’s just sad
He looks like someone being respectful about something he clearly doesn't want for his family.
@@Ramirez_13xI agree with a lot of what he says tbh.
He seems high but you can tell he doesn't want to be divorced. Her face shows her pain.
Laura, you are an example of fighting for yourself and for the wellbeing of your children - and you’ve managed to do it without being spiteful and with showing respect to the father of your children. I admire you. I wish you both all the best.
My parent’s divorce is one of the best things that happened to me. They were toxic together. I can’t imagine what I would have had to go through if they stayed together. My step Dad was also so amazing I couldn’t imagine the person I’d be without him raising me
I'm happy and sad for both of you but my biggest prayer for ya'll is that you both can continue to be friends and gently co-parent so that everyone ends up happy. Our opinions don't matter. Your happiness as the family you always will be is all that matters.
Laura is wearing a white shirt with pink and blue nails while interviewing Steven On her podcast. 🏳️⚧️ I love it!
Good eye
@katecoco1540 I want to believe she did that on purpose. It's subtle. It doesn't cause tension, and she's telling trans folks, "I see you. I support you. You are valid."
I get that she needs to approach things delicately because this is the father of her children. I think she is quite emotionally intelligent.
Agreed. However we feel about the situation she's been handling it with so much grace
And the little pink heart necklace and little blue ring.
🙄🙄
You can see how raw both of their feelings still are. I really hope they both do what’s best for themselves and for their children. They really are amazing people and deserve all the happiness in the world and it makes me so sad that he had to go through everything he did and she just had to watch the train wreck. They love each other so much. I really hope they figure it out
It’s clear Stephen has changed a lot and you’ve grown apart. I’m glad you’re doing things amicably. My parents divorced when I was 9 and I was grateful.
Yup. Steven has become MAGA and it's gross.
This is bs. When you marry you marry for life and especially when kids are involved you make it work.
@colleenm4031 wrong. If the relationship is toxic, that is not good for the kids. It's not good for anyone. We're not going back to the 1950's.
@@colleenm4031 no that’s BS. Thankful to live in a time in our country where we are not forced to stay married to someone especially just bc they impregnated us. I stay in my marriage every day because I WANT to. No one should be forced to stay married. We don’t know their whole story. If she doesn’t want to be married to him then that’s enough.
@@colleenm4031 my parents remarried and tried to make it “work”. They fought. Hated each other. There was abuse. Physical violence. Sexual violence. I would’ve had a better teen life without my dad around. Divorce is a live saver sometimes
I was very disappointed to see Stephen falling into a MAGA-rabbit hole.
I hope he gets the help he needs
My parents eventually got divorced when I was 17 and moved out but my mom stayed together for the kids and I truly wish they would’ve got divorced years before. I actually begged my mom to divorce my dad he was/is a narcissist who abuses alcohol and drugs and put me my siblings and especially my mom through Hell! 😞 You guys are doing the right thing especially for your kids mental well being! ❤️
I am so proud of you Laura! You are truly handling all of this so gracefully and you're so unapologetically authentic yet respectful. I support your decision 100% and to think I was originally wanting you guys to get back together so badly 😂 You keep doing you and being an amazing person and loving your babies with your all! ❤
I think we all knew this was coming when he did his 180.
What was his 180?
What was the 180?
What was his 180?
@@ChristinaFromRUclips I'm not going to be able to fully inform you of their entire history, especially with the amount of BS that's happened since then, in a comment section but he went from being sad and wanting his family back to being one of the most angry, confrontational, and hateful people I have ever seen online.
31:42 Laura's face when Stephen said that if you divorce after 10 years of marriage you're an idiot broke my heart! Her poor face while he was laughing it's just too much!
Laura, I wish you and your kids all the best! ❤
He was repeating something he was told. You can repeat something without it automatically defaulting to him calling her an idiot. And you'll notice he had a 10 year marriage prior to her, as well.
I've found listening to this that Laura is playing the victim and takes no accountability for the failure of this relationship. Very shitty attitude...YOU, YOU, YOU...ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. ME, ME, ME... Hopefully they can get 50/50 placement so Laura won't guilt trip Stephen constantly. 🙄
@@JustJodi1235:00 just one instance to help yo dumbass
wishing you peace laura, you’re handling this well and you are right staying in an unhappy marriage “for the kids” is totally bullshit
Kids are smart. They can tell if you are putting up with someone you hate "for their sake". It also normalizes that kind of relationship for them in the future.
Right, just forget the kids and do what is good for the parent and forget how the kids are feeling. No, kids thrive in a home.... a Home, where both parents are together. Divorce can come later when the kids are older. When they are too young it is very confusing for them and impossible for them to understand. I know, because it has happened with my daughter and her husband. Now my grandbaby is a different child than before.
@1cjadefox yeah better that children grow up in a hostile environment 🙄 just because you have antiquated views that women should suffer through marriage no matter what happens behind closed doors doesn't mean those kids should
here here
Don’t have kids if your not going to stay married.
You have both come a very long way in your personal development. I think you should both be extremely proud of the fact you both have your children's best interests at heart and the way to ensure they are getting the best of 'you' is to have a respectful and calm relationship with each other. Who knows, as you carry on in your journey you may 'find each other' again... but for now, focus on the present, on being present for yourself, your children and each other as co-parents. Much love to you both x
have you seen his page? he is obsessively hateful toward trans people. just because he's speaking calmly here doesn't mean he didn't record like twenty videos within the past few months bashing and maligning trans and LGBTQ people generally
Wonderful advice ❤
The love they so obviously still have for each other is heartbreaking to see. I'm still rooting for them and all the possibilities they have as a couple in the future.
I'm very grateful my parents divorced. They divorced when I was 2, and my sister was 4. My Mom asked for full custody only because my Dad was moving to the other side of Canada my sister and I were living on (We lived on Vancouver Island and my Dad was living in Nova Scotia) so that made it hard to get medical tests and especially surgery due to me having a liver transplant at 10 months old and needing both parents consent at that point. My Dad agreed which I very much appreciate as that allowed me to get the care I needed immediately at that time I needed which allowed my Mom to give the attention and love my sister needed too.
WOW these comments are NOT it. Honestly happiness is SO important, and if this is what you two need to make your lives work, do it! No judgment here, I'm surprised how many feel you should force a relationship at all.
Yeah you force it and you end up hating each other or despising each other instead of still saying friends and having a healthy relationship because they have kids and making it work versus trying to force it and stay together.
It's very interesting hearing his perception of himself while in the relationship and post relationship. It definitely seems like it was a building up thing.
I have a autistic daughter
And any change takes place it totally will drive her crazy
I wish you the best on this decision
Looking at this from a counselor standpoint, it’s clear the dialogue between them is very disconnected. When you see a separated couple come back into a space together and talk, it’s a lot to process without a mediator present, especially when you 1) have a partner that is blame shifting, 2) has media presence, and 3) is constantly spreading content that is controversial.
I agree. I could notice that the conversation was getting nowhere.
Agree... I think they have not fully processed their feelings and situation in private. This is basically them processing it in full view of public scrutiny. I can feel their pain, both of them :(
his tiktoks are disturbing/homophobic/transphobic. she dodged a bullet
Yes she did
I feel this. It is so - heartbreaking - but also very beautiful. Some people just are not a good match. I love that you are great friends and co-parents. That is a blessing to your kids and yourselves. Maybe it's the best outcome.
Specifically just commenting for the part at 28:25 when the topic of toughing out a marriage for your kids came up. I am 26 and have 3 siblings, 23, 19, and 17. Our parents stuck it out "for the kids". Couldn't make it to the 17 year old graduating. I have diagnosed PTSD, my doctors were willing to go on record to the judge in the divorce hearing to confirm that my father was the root cause for my PTSD. The horrific things we endured because my parents were "toughing it out" are forever etched into my memory. I had PTSD for so long by the time I was diagnosed, I didn't even realize I was experiencing flashbacks. Divorce and co-parent if you genuinely want to make your kids happy, because if things were bad enough to even consider separating... don't put your kids through it.
Thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully they see this!
My parents did this too. They did wind up ultimately getting through it, AND they didn’t get through it until we were out of the house. I have so much anxiety and PTSD. I didn’t learn how to have a healthy relationship because there wasn’t one modeled for me.
I just feel uncomfortable with the masculinity, weakness & vulnerability talking. I feel sad who he has become…also, my son is asd & nothing gave him autism, his brain is literally different.
I love Laura & I don’t hate Stephen but I feel sad for him
100% agree with Laura, my parents divorced when i was 17 and i wish they had done it so much sooner, i was the last kid at home and it was so hard. Once they were done it was so much easier, i only wish it hadnt been during my senior year in high school.
Hope u can both be civil and co parent. Can’t follow Steven anymore due to his new content. Hope u find peace and happiness
Have some compassion
@@kimcallaghan3581 oh I do hope they stay civil and are able to parent their children. May they each find happiness on their own. They choose to divorce so I will be supportive. Not my place to judge the why.
you can see how laura is fighting to dear life or whatever is the saying... to try to speak her true but at the same time keep thing in peace with stephen, she knows that she cant say something that triggers stephen because shit can go down like really quickly... like she just say to him... i mean.. you are autistic... my dad is autistic... theres nothing weird with alfie being autistic and still stephen is like... well yeah but i have other data... like ... u can not reasoning with him. i really feel soorry for laura you can see how she just can´t believe who stephen has turn in to. like she feels like she actually never knew her husband at all.
I'm seeing that too and this therapy retreat he was talking about seems extremely problematic. Ranting on about "married people should stick together for the kids" and "divorcing after 10yrs is stupid" and constantly talking about his masculinity like... sounds like he's got a closet full of maga gear 😪
Yeah I got that feeling to!! Feel for her so much
Yes.. she is treading VERY lightly… ❤
You're not "seeing" shit, she said she doesn't care about his content...sorry she's not a snowflake
@@suzettegarcia6648 you seem triggered. 🤔 you're not worth the argument ✌️
I still don’t exactly understand why they are breaking up , but they seem to really be doing good at co parenting so that’s great
Love how both of you are setting such a great example for strong co-parents!!! Way to go! Many blessings to you all!
I can see the love you both have for one another. I hope that continues on while living separate but well adjusted lives. All your kids want is to see both parents happy and healthy. Wishing you both healing journeys!
As watching you guys from whenever you had help Helen smash page, I absolutely loved how adorable and authentic and hilarious. You are Laura, it hurts to see you guys separate and I think understanding and having space for someone is so important as someone that has a very loving husband, I relate to you in a lot of ways, but you can’t pour from a cup that’s empty. Mourning a relationship is so hard. But you both are amazing. Sending good vibes
My daughter is severely autistic @stephen Hilton and she didn’t have a single vaccine before she was diagnosed.
There's 'tests' and other things they do to women while they are still pregnant too.
@@1cjadefoxit doesn't give you autism. Point blank as a mom of 3 who are autistic and have family members who are stop feeding into the lies
VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. Cripes.
100% I am autistic and so are 2 of my brothers. None of us are vaccinated.
My mother received no vaccinations.
My son is autistic and also didn't receive vaccinations.
He's extremely unwell mentally.
Perhaps there is autism and then perhaps there is vaccine damage (actual thing) and perhaps some vaccine damage symptoms can present similar to autism symptoms.
A family member of mine has a nephew whose family is being compensated for vaccine damage and he has autistic like symptoms.
Love you guys! This podcast made me cry. I respect how you handled this conversation and life change and how you are putting the kids first and still keeping a friendship and good co-parenting relationship.
I’m sorry but absolutely fair play to Laura for keeping so calm with some of the absolute toxicity Stephen was saying.
It’s not toxic to have a discussion. Toxicity is more like narcissism where their direct emotional control over someone hurts them. That wasn’t the case in this conversation.
Zero toxicity. They were both honest, respectful, and clearly focused on their kids. Stop stirring up trouble where there is none.
As a child of divorce I want to stress that sometimes it IS the right thing to do. My parents were teen parents and felt they had to get married because it was the “right” thing to do. They divorced when I was four and I have said time and time again that I’m so glad my parents separated because all they did was fight and hurt each other. They both always said that they loved and respected each other more when they divorced. It’s not true for everyone but it IS true very often. I’m 28 now and have a beautiful relationship with each of my parents individually and they still ask about each other and love each other. We’re still a family, it’s just different :)
Just wanted to throw in my personal experience after seeing you guys wanting input. Love you guys and at the end of the day it’s what is best for YOUR family. Always best to try to keep an open mind and heart.❤
Hes laughing about ending it after 10 years.. and she just looks hurt and silent
Because he essentially called her an idiot. So uncalled for... 😒
I loved your channel, the funny family videos were always so much fun to watch, it made my day everytime I saw you guys just having fun with ur kids...it's almost been a year I guess, and suddenly I remembered about your channel for some reason only to find out about your divorce. It must be so hard to deal with, I hope that both of you and your family will be able to get through it, especially those kids. Take care!
Stephen: YOURE an idiot for quitting after 10 years.
Laura: yeah…didn’t that happen with your first marriage
😂😂😂
He didn't have children then.
@@rachellejean728 irrelevant.
yeah and he stole his whole music bit from her too
I was completely invested in this conversation you both had in this one. I can tell Laura is still struggling internally about the situation but is also trying to heal in her own time. I feel she is being patient with herself, which is healthy. But Co-parenting and staying friends is the best way to show the kids that both Mommy and Daddy are still together in some aspects and there is nothing wrong with that. Accountability was shown on both ends which I see is tremendous progress in my opinion. However, it is never healthy for the kids for the parents to stay in a anger fueled marriage, just for the sake of the kids. It sets very bad examples for the kids and they do usually end up being a product of their environment. Since, you guys are no logner married but are working together as friends to raise those beautiful babies, will help them in the future. You guys are doing amazing, and for Laura, stay away of those comments. Those comments will never validate the real progress that you are actually making.
I just watched the video on his channel and I wish he would actually listen to Laura and respect her boundaries instead of CONSTANTLY being manipulative pushing to stay together "for the kids" ! I can see she's so fed up of it, he does it so often now she just gives a apathetic sigh and moves on in order to stay civil for parentings sake and hats of to her for that !!
Not only does it show a complete lack of respect to her...all it does is reinforce why she's left him ! He's worryingly delusional if he thinks attending one cult like mens retreat has solved every flaw and issue he have ever had.
Despite him admitting to the fact he's a better parent now than when they were together he continuously says they NEED to be together for the "children's sake " yet again reinforces how selfish and out of touch he is! It's not for the kids he was less attentive when you were together, it has nothing to do with their happiness and everything to do with his control. At this point Laura just nervously laughs and moves on purely to be civil because even when she makes it clear that she doesn't currently want to try agin he just ignores her wishes over and over and still uses manipulative..guilt tripping language.
Laura I see you and support you 100%, you are an incredible mother and a good person. Continue to reinforce your boundaries in a civil way and get yourself legally set and covered in case things get worse. ❤️
EXACTLY
This felt like walking on eggshells…so much tension.
because he keeps actively gaslighting her
@@lanaadler5786no, he doesn't
@@amandaboyens lol the gaslighting about the gaslighting, one loves to see it from a stan
@@lanaadler5786yes the gaslighting and whataboutisms was insane!
She literally said she was uncomfortable being attacked by his supporters and his response was “well the attacks I get from the left are insane”. He chose his content topics and to engage in controversial topics. He chose this. Her page and content is comedy. She didn’t chose to engage in controversy so for her to be attacked for views they are assuming, that is wrong and he should empathize.
@amandaboyens, so many scenarios of home gaslighting: 1 example, she states everything was divided equally in the divorce, he agrees, then immediately says you got THE BETTER HOUSE!!!!!!! SHE GENTLY AVOIDS THIS BY SAYING I'VE GOT THE KIDS WHO YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE ANY TIME YOU WANT DUE TO LIVING A MILE APART.
It’s so nice seeing you getting along and respecting each other. Wishing you both happiness and peace ❤
I can see the heaviness in your eyes, Laura. This is big on your heart as it would be. Stephen looks like he’s trying to make peace with it. I love how mature conversation amongst so much speculation and all the “good for you, he’s crap” comments. He’s the father of their children, have respect as she does. Follow Laura people. Negative comments aren’t needed. Praise them for sharing their discussion.
Wishing only the best for Laura!!
What is happening over on his channel is very disturbing. Keep yourself and those babies safe and happy.
I couldn’t agree more with this! He’s dangerous
I'm a child psychologist and I can tell you that staying together for the children NEVER EVER works.
Also, the best schedule should be for the child. Alternative days won't be better for them when they get older, watch for their cues & needs.
It’s very refreshing to see 2 parents come together and coparent so nicely for the children ! You can really tell you both still have lots of love however sometimes divorce is just what is best! Best of luck to your next chapters ❤️❤️
You are both your own people. I’m glad you’re touching on this. Because I’ve seen people compare you two. I might not agree at all with what Steven says. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to harass either of you over it. He’s allowed to have his own feelings. I’m just glad you guys are able to be civil to one another 🥰
At first I really wanted you to both work out. But, he's pretty insane. It's clear he has no identity and needs to really soul search. I wish you both the best and hope you can continue to love eachother and support each other even after the divorce. Good luck to you
It’s interesting to see that Stephens new followers are attacking Laura for potentially having different views or because they’re separated and Stephens response wasn’t to condemn that, but rather talk about all of the hate he is getting instead. The hate he is getting is directly related to his newly found positions, while Laura’s are because she’s existing near his universe. Unfortunately it tracks.
Oof, and he wants to stay together (for the kids) but she doesn’t. She’s navigating this extremely well.
@@danaporter7531 It's not just for the kids, though. That just feels like a manipulation tactic because he still loves Laura (but doesn't want to/know how to be a good partner to her) and has lost the idea he had for his life and his masculinity, apparently.
I can feel Laura hurting and feel unheard, and its so sad for me.
Agreed. Like when he was talking about being able to talk to his guys or w.e and not his partner and she was clearly being sarcastic about how "good" that was, and yet he didn't catch that.
Yes. It's heartbreaking seeing this SAME pattern again. She brings up something that's REALLY hurting her and he doesn't hear it, doesn't acknowledge or own his actions and just dismisses and minimises her pain in a split second and tries to compete with it bringing in something where he's a victim. It's so sad. Like when she was almost crying saying "The type of radical followers you attract are really being horrible to me online,"
Instead of him owning his role in encouraging a Lynch mob against her with his subtle blaming of her and constantly playing the victim -- he just says--"Oh the left attack me and they're awful to me."
Um. No Stephan. Listen to her. Please!!!!!
@@creativesexpression4929very well said. I picked up on that too.
@@creativesexpression4929 The perpetual victim.
She was not being sarcastic when she said it was good that he should take his problems to other men or his sponsor. She genuinely agrees and talks about how she could have been better about talking problems out with her sponsor. Stephen takes accountability in this video. He apologizes, he admits where he was wrongs, he admits he lacks relationship skills. You can see pain in Laura but it’s not because she is feeling unheard in this moment. I think she is still mourning their marriage. I cried at the end of this video because I can feel her pain and as someone who loves them both I’m sad to see the marriage end as well. The love they still have is a beautiful thing to see and I wish them both nothing but the best.
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let her go i did all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring her back
@@DarylSimpson58 Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach her?
@@MaryTongx Her name is *Victoria Lee hess*, and she is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.
@@DarylSimpson58 Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
I'm really sorry to hear that. X
I think you both come to a fork in the road and needed to go your own paths but I like how you've left eachother with love and can co parent effectively together is amazing