BIGGER BAD!🤬BUY SMALLER. BUY CHEAPER. I'LL TRY TO CONVINCE U
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I’m glad I didn’t get anything larger than our B2650. It was the smallest available with a factory cab. Maneuverability and overall size has been phenomenal for our small property. I’ve never wished for more. I’ve ran a post auger, move lots of dirt, rock, and materials, moved lots of things with forks, bladed with 3 point, built dirt jumps, and moved tons and tons (literally) of snow with a 66” pusher and rear blade. My only issue with capability has been traction when I get too much snow in front of the pusher.
When I bought my tractor I asked a few friends who were farmers what to get. they said the old ,"buy the biggest tractor you can get. Don't get less than 50 HP." I ignored them and bought a 25 HP with $10K in implements and a trailer instead. smartest decision I've made. spend your money on implements.
My neighbor has a 1025R. He only has 1.5 acres and a larger machine wouldn't fit through his backyard gate or in his garage. I got a YT347 because I have 28 acres and a pole barn to store it. He plows the lower part of my driveway (i let him park his horse trailer in my loop because he lacks flat ground), and I help him with tasks his tractor is too small for. We cleared some trees so his garden would get more sunlight. We did all the hard work with my tractor and his for the cleanup and finishing touches.
Haha, so plan it all out with your neighbor?
@GoodWorksTractors He bought his tractor two years before me and our needs don't overlap much. He mostly mows with a MMM and tends a garden. I don't have either. The only real coordination was timing tree removals before building a fence so we wouldn't get in each other's way
"If you want to HAVE a neighbor, you gotta BE a neighbor" sounds like you guys have it all worked out.
Well put
That’s what it’s all about helping each other with out expecting a return but getting one anyway.👍🏾🤙🏾
So very true that smaller tractors are worth their weight in gold for certain chores around the farm! I use my 33hp to cut out field edges and fence rows before I clip the pastures with the 15’ batwing cutter. The small tractor will go under all the low limbs and is super nimble in the corners and spinning out around the trees in the open field areas so I never have to backup or slow down with the 150 hp tractor. I also use my 40hp tractor equipped with a 9’ sickle bar hydraulic cutter to keep my pond and lake banks cut/trimmed to the waterline which no other cutter will do this as safely and as fast! Ad most importantly my wife loves the operate the smaller hydro tractors and cut, clip & garden with them…….. and we all know that……”If Mamma Is happy, Everybody is happy” 😂😂. Have a great weekend.
Haha, good stuff Gene. Have a good one!
Bought a new 1025R TLB two years ago for use on a small property (~3 acres) and am 100% happy with my choice. The one big miss was that I should have passed on the mower deck. It gives a good cut but is poorly suited to my property and I could pay my lawn guy for 3-1/2 years for what the deck cost me. If I had a big, flat, well-drained lawn it would be a different story. The subcompacts are tiny by tractor standards but they are monster trucks by lawnmower standards. The biggest limits for my use are the lift capacity and breakout force on the 260B hoe. To really improve on those you have to go up to something like a 2032 and that is a LOT more machine and $. But the 1025 can do the job, it's just slower. I removed a couple of 100' pine trees, and the lower trunk had to be sawed into 4-5' segments rather than 6-10 foot ones. A bigger machine would have saved me a couple hours. Big if you're doing it every day for work, meaningless if you're a homeowner doing it once. Same with the hoe, it's slow and weak compared to a mini ex, but sure beats the heck out of a shovel.
I bought my 1025 R in 2021. I had an old Case 990 which was a 56 hp tractor and was very large. I had a lot of problems with it and decided it was time to replace it. I was looking to get the same size tractor but my biggest hesitation was the diesel exhaust systems that are required for anything over 25 hp. I'm glad I made the decision to get the 1025R. It's a little tank. It does everything I that I used to do. I brush hog, finish mow, I dig out tree stumps, do a lot of things that I probably shouldn't do with it but this tractor can take it. Best decision I ever made. You don't need a large tractor to do large projects. If you take care of your tractor it will take care of you.
Guy down the road from me used a 1025 R to dig his basement out for his new house. Took him little longer but it did the job
I agree! I bought a 33R because everyone said “go as big as you can afford”. I had it for 3 years and it was a great tractor but I found it sat more than I was using it because of its size. So I traded it for a 2025R and I use it for everything and it does everything well. It just takes longer for some jobs but more seat time on my tractor isn’t a bad thing.
Definitely, big size difference between those two machines...glad to hear you found the right fit
I use my 1025R to plow snow with. It does 100+ driveways daily with each snow storm. Does an OUTSTANDING job !!
When I first bought my property, having grown up on a farm, I was of the mindset that I needed a minimum of a 65hp row crop tractor for my property. I was so wrong. I never used it. It was way too big for my yard, my buildings, and what I needed to do on my property. Not to mention, since it was old, I was always working on it when I should have been using it. When I got my Kubota L3301, it was a game changer. It fit down all the trails, it fits in and around the buildings, under trees, doesn't tear the yard up, always starts and is ready for work in short order, and it stores nicely in my garage. The HST transmission and 60" blower allows me to blow more snow and quicker than i could with an eight foot blower and gear drive 65hp tractor. I wish I had never bought that old row crop tractor and just went straight to the compact tractor.
Excellent vid. 21st Century marketing has pushed 'men' to buy equipment as if it is jewelry to be bragged about. 1940s JEEPs had 60 Hp engines and towed howitzers.
Very true, great perspective
Hey Courtney I hope all the tractor manufacturers marketing folks are watching and listening to what you saying in this video, as well as the one last week about all the features to get on tractors. I also hope you getting a slice of Summit's growing success.
I agree: I love my SCUT. Thought about going with a small compact, but the nimble factor and reduced cost (allowing my budget to buy more toys ... errr ... I mean Attachments) were my biggest factors. So far, it has not failed me, I just have to remember that it is NOT a big honking farm tractor and expect it to do the same stuff.
Good Morning! Great video.....again. All very good points about smaller equipment, as I get older it is more difficult to "man handle" some of this bigger stuff when hooking and unhooking. Having dealt with larger equipment all my life, I'm usually a little disappointed when I get on my little Kubota around the house but, it does have its place.....it's takes a little longer but it doesn't tear up the lawn as bad as the big loader tractor and the visibility from the operator seat in a real plus in tight places.
Yeah, I understand that point of view. Sometimes I want to whip out the skid steer, but choose the small tractor to showcase an attachment for a project. I guess I'm not disappointed, but it's a realization that it's going to take longer to get done.
Great video and good food for thought! With me it somewhat boiled down to dollars per PTO horsepower and moving into the M5660 was basically a few dollars more than a tractor nearly half the size, comparably equipped.
Love the video Courtney! It's always great to hear about the variety of options available. Gives us ideas on what equipment we have and what we want to plan for on future buys. I picked my JD 2025R largely based on the nimble ability to get into and around my back yard, timber, and family and friends yards to help them out. Planning on using it for my own business I'm starting. Great machine and it can do a ton of work compared to the brute force method I've used for years. Not getting any younger and if I can get a lot more done, it goes a long way. Keep up the great content! Much appreciated. Still love my Stump Bucket! Works like a charm on all my landscaping work!
Nice to hear from you Mike. Glad to hear your machine and the Stump Wrecker are treating you well :)
I received the HLA1500 72 a couple days ago. Cleaned the work storage lot, and 4 driveways. Happy I went with your suggestion on width. Works alot better than the bucket, Quicker and much less wear and tear on the bucket and tractor. Thank You. 3046r JohnDeere.
Great to hear, thanks again!
I've found that my 1025r is perfect for getting around existing landscaping that was designed long before the tractor. We really thought about the 1025R vs. 2025R but in the end, the smaller size was important and I have not regretted the decision.
Love your content bro. From a fellow content creator you are crushing it and adding tons of value
I have 14 acers in Northeast Texas. I will purchase the Summit as soon as the cab version is available this year. I do not need a larger tractor for my needs. it is hot and humid here and I want AC to be more comfortable when I am working out side....
Hopefully Q1 of 2024 for the cab
@@GoodWorksTractors I am hoping also. But if it is Q2 or Q3, I am in the position to waite....
I bought my first tractor this year, it’s a 2014 JD 1025R and I loooove it 😬😀
Haha awesome, you made a good choice
Great video. Your spot on of the advantage of small tractors. My little JD1026R does just about everything i need it to do. Like you said, it just takes a little longer. I have to take it in smaller bites rather than in a couple of big ones. I've bought things from you, Heavy Hitch, Everything Attachments and Tractor Supply and probably others. It all depends on what the need is and what my budget is. As always, thanks for your insights.
Awesome, thanks for chiming in :)
I've had a 2320 for 8 years and it is pretty good for what I need. I like that it is only 4' wide and I can get around easily in the woods and such. It's true that you can't safely lift a round bale with the loader, but you can safely pull them with the 3PH on a small tractor. We have a triangle that goes into the quick hitch and then an 18' tow strap is an ideal length to go around a bale (flat end down) and attaches to the triangle. Strap should be low on the bale..maybe a foot off the ground or less. Lift some with the hitch to take weight off the leading edge and you can drive anywhere with it safely. It does very little damage to the bale.
Thanks Courtney. All good points to consider. With only a 3 acre property, it further helps in the decision process.
Happy to help!
Started out with a b2601. Was a great tractor, low fuel consumption, cheap maintenance, and enough power to get most things done even if it took a little longer with great maneuverability. With my work, I did find myself working beyond its capabilities more often than I should. Running an m59 now and the power is amazing but I can't fit everywhere I could with the 2601.
For our needs, the smallest of the Grand L series could handle round hay bales or the JD 3R series. The Kubota was available, so we went with that and have been really happy with it. I would point out that the Kubota or JD 3R both need a lot of ballast in the back and in the tires. We have about 1000 pounds between the attachment on the 3 point hitch and a custom hanger for suitcase weights
I went with a 1025R TLB, I was considering the 3039R but for most of my projects, I could get by with the smaller model and a little more seat time. In doing so I have been able to acquire more attachments and get more done than with a larger model with one attachment. Wishing I had been able to purchased a snow pusher, as I look outside at all the snow but maybe by next winter I will have acquired one. I love the fact this little tractor is so easy to switch out attachments, plus with a little brute strength and a nudge from "The Precious" (as my husband calls MY tractor) I can move the attachments around easily, and less storage space is needed.
The Precious :)
Lol!!!! I dont have a sketchy idea for THAT task.... thats awesome... love it !
Bigger tractor also means bigger tools. I can service my 1025r with the same toolset I use on my 80s trucks. A larger tractor also means larger parts, and it doesn't take much steel before said part is unmanageable without lifting aids like a hoist. Then there's consumables. I keep 10 gallons of HYGARD on hand, and that's probably double what I need for incidentals, for all of my hydraulic equipment. I haul fuel in five gallon cans, and never regret that I don't have a pump, if my fuel consumption was higher, I'd loose bed space in my pickup to haul a diesel tank. It's a snowball thing.
Very good point on tooling
100% spot on. Thanks for the vid and your time.
Thanks for watching!
When shopping for a tractor in 2021 the only new tractor for sale I could track down was a Kubota MX5200. So we bought it. It’s a bit bigger than what I wanted but the dealer gave us a good deal.
We are thinking of getting a Kubota BX to complement the MX.
We really like the combination of our JD 4700, the largest of the compacts, and our Kubota BX2370, a sub compact. If I were to do it all over again though, I would’ve moved the BX up to a B series.
Bigger, I do love my sub compacts as they can get into tight spots but there are a lot of boulders and logs I had to break down further because they could not lift them or do so safely (either for the operator and/or tractor). I am always mindful of those limits.
I will get a bigger tractor (compact class) in the future as I greatly increase the number of acres I work against and maintain. I will still keep the sub compacts for the tight spots and smaller jobs. I just can not bring myself to sell any of my tractors for some reason (even my garden ones). 🤣
Very good point Courtney about storing the tractors indoors. That makes a big difference in reduced maintenance and enhances their overall lifetime expectancy (parts, etc.).
Great video, as always! 🙂
Fair points Daniel!
Don't over buy a large tractor to do the 2% of jobs that might be once every decade, just hire those done, get a right-sized tractor for the other 98% of jobs. Smaller tractors have smaller monthly payments, smaller interest payments. Repair parts will be cheaper. Smaller tools/wrenches are needed, smaller jacks/hoists to work on the tractor.
I guess were all different. I have used a 2320 for 10 years and although I really do like it, it was just a little underpowered for some of the snow pushing on long lanes, etc. Just bought a 3039r, and love it. Just a little extra power and size, but no too big. Anyway, lots of good points in your video, and thank you doing such a nice job; always.
I had a 3046r for a couple years. Loved it. I sold it because I needed more loader lift capacity at the time. Did everything else I needed to besides that.
@@GoodWorksTractors You know, at the end of the day, it boils down to the fact that a fella needs two or three tractors. One size doesn't seem to fit all jobs.😀
I bought a 2025R two years ago and it's approaching 500 hours. Very happy with my decision for managing my 33 acre farm property ! (mostly CRP Now) I needed a back hoe to dig out and repair the foundation on my barn. and for planting larger trees etc.- The next size up tractor 3 series with a back hoe was a 10K jump in price ! I love how maneuverable the smaller tractor is around the house, trees, barn etc. The bora wheel spacers greatly improved its tippiness and the 2025r has the increased ground clearance over the 1025R I needed. I also picked up a used BX 1830 as I needed a belly mower and that little tractor is a beast ! Having a second tractor with a three point hitch makes a lot of jobs much faster (especially when implements aren't quick hitch compatible). Buying the BX 1830 used was almost as cheap as adding a belly mower to the 2025R (BX has no front loader so VERY affordable) - and now I have two compact/ subcompact tractors !
I think a lot of it is sizing the tractor for what you need. Thanks for sharing. :)
Drive both then decide. I noticed a 25hp felt held back. Then I drove a 45hp and it was full of life. I settled on a 40hp Bobcat. The size is the same as the 25 but hopefully it won't bog down as much on hills.
I bought a 2025R a couple of years ago, and love it, I actually use it much more than my 60 HP international. But, that being said, I find myself having to be a lot more careful on the small tractor, because of the small weight and the tipsiness
agreed..my CX2510 is a great size..yeah you sometimes find it's limits but you can chip away at most anything..beats doing it by hand lol
Courtney, I've been meaning to make a video request for a bit now. If you ever have the time, would you do a size comparison with the 1025R, Summit, Kubota compacts and how they fit into a 20' Conex/Shipping Container? How much room is there with a loader/backhoe? Front to back; side to side; headroom. That kind of thing. Thanks for great vids! Keep it up!
With any equipment i think the biggest thing for your more regular mill of the day people is to get the machine you really! There is some good deals out there to be had and it's very important to get what you really need and want !
You make a good case for the little tractors🚜 but if I had a choice I would have a small, medium, and large tractor.😂Thanks for the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
My Bx on turf tires can drawbar drag 18" logs that are 14-16ft long. But it was very unimpressive using a set of three-point forks. If I had more than 3 acres to clear I'd play with something larger. I love using a blower bagger when mowing so I can't go too large.
Trade offs
Very well stated... if I would have bought a large tractor, I'd be without projects to enjoy.
Thanks for another good video. As retirement approaches I am thinking about getting a tractor. I can afford a bigger tractor, but not a new pickup and trailer for it. Pretty sure the current storage options wouldn't work for a larger machine.
Yeah...lots of those related items that start to come into play
I totally agree. Most days my 5075e is too big And it has nothing to do with money.
Yeah, that's much like my Kubota M4. Great in the right situations though!
I opted for a 3E series because the crossing to my pasture wouldn’t support a belly mower. Each landowner has specific needs and really there is no one-size- fits all. Talk to your dealer before buying.
Yep, do your research
I have a 5 acre hillside property and some of it is inaccessible. My 1025 JD is perfect for me
I love the end music theme! Makes my day! Yea, love the small tractors! LOL!!!
I don't get tired of it either :)
I use an LS MT125 on 2 acres at home and my 40 acres of woods. She has been perfect for the small gravel drive, woods trails, you name it. The 3 cylinder Yanmar is bulletproof. Tough to justify spending more.
I'm deciding between a small tractor and a used bigger HP, close to 50 hp, because we have a hilly farm. We borrowed a neighbor's New Holland medium sized tractor and it couldn't really dig out the layered hay/manure very well and was slow getting up the hill. Definitely we need 4wd and a backhoe. Or maybe an old excavator w small tractor. IDK, there's a lot to learn in the process of buying, not just having money.
I’ve ran both, I don’t own either but I would definitely go with the smaller compact tractor.
Thanks for chiming in!
I'm still on the fence on which to get. This channel has helped.
Glad to hear it
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Great Advice Sir 👍 ty 🏆 👴 🐕 🚜 😊
I couldn't have gone smaller than my ck25 because I need to move big round bales, not sure I would have if I wouldn't have had to move bales. It does everything perfect in my opinion. The new model in the same size is the ck2610 or ck2620.
My wife moves round bales with our 1025R. :) Its sketchy, but it gets it done.
I have owned a TC35, a CK25 and now a 2305 for the last 12 years. Each one worked for what I used them for but I find myself longing for the hydraulic flow/capacity of the bigger tractors almost every time I use the loader. Does it get the job done, yes most of the time, but having owned/used bigger equipment, the blend capability is really lacking in the SSCT's. Also, I have been watching several videos on the new Summit tractors and will be watching them closely, especially now that they announced a factory cab and a little larger model. BUT, The main reason I wouldnt purchase right now is no dealer/service anywhere remotely close to Logansport, Indiana or ANYWHERE in Indiana for that matter.
I’m contemplating replacing my 58hp Massey 253 with a new tractor, but can’t decide if I want to get a bigger gear drive tractor or a 55hp hydrostatic. Test drove a 55hp TYM yesterday and IT WAS NICE and roomy. Got on the Massey today and felt like I was riding a dinosaur 😢. I need something with enough hp to occasionally run a Brown Tree Cutter.
I got sub compact it’s a nice tractor wish would went a little bigger.
I’ve always said if you live in the middle of the city the bx is the only way to go. If you live in the country with 1 acre and up the 1025r an up in size works great
So it's been several months Courtney, if you had to choose today, summit or your 1025r??
2038r here with 16 acres, 10 acres mowed. Big enough to do 90 percent of what I need. Anything outside of its capabilities, I rent something.
I'd say that's a good way to look at it...get a machine that can do 90% of what you need
We bought a Kubota BX2380 because it was small enough in a residential home but capable of handling the huge plow piles the city plow truck left behind. I also look after the two widows across the street from my mom and dads house and the BX2380 is perfect size for maneuvering around their driveways. I can easily get under one ladies car port and if the snow is too deep to shovel I can squeeze the BX between the carport support poles and the other widows garage! For my needs blowing snow I didn’t need a bigger tractor. So far the Kubota BX2380 with the BX2822 commercial blower, back blade and Tektite cab has been a back saver this winter. We had a huge dump around Christmas and the BX handled all that snow no problem. The BX is awesome.
On the round bale topic. I’ll say lift and carry would be two separate things. Mine will carry a round bale, as in will pick it up enough to move it. But, if you need to lift into a round bale pen it won’t do that.
On or off a trailer, stacking two high, etc
everyone has their own situation, I have a 55 hp with fel, a 38 hp with fel and a 27 hp tractor with belly mower, they all have their purpose on the farm
I do firewood and have been looking for a tractor to help with cutting and moving around those metal bins with firewood in them. Would a 1025 work for me? It seems to small but I don't know what they weigh.
Well you might just want to go bigger...... I bought a simplicity xl garden tractor with intentions to get implements for it, bucket, blower, 3 pt attachments.... but low and behold they would have costed more than just buying the bigger tractor.... I was better off (and cheaper) to get a bobcat 4X4 235 loaded.... so that's what I did because the loader and blower for the simplicity xl would have cost at least 1 & 1/2 times the cost of the Bobcat with loader and 3pt hitch and full hydraulics!! So in that case you would be wrong!
Lookin for a tractor for lite yard work and cleaning my 300 ft driveway in winter, any suggestions? Ty.
I guess it depends on how much work you have to do, how fast you need to accomplish it and how much money you have to spend. Maybe another consideration is will you work a smaller tractor beyond its limitations and damage it.
That's a statement I often hear, but don't understand how it happens. How do you work a small tractor beyond it's limitations and damage it?
@@GoodWorksTractors you ever try lift something too heavy for the tractor bucket and tractor, you ever try and pull too large of an implement too fast, you ever try and mow with too large of a mower, you ever pull an implant all day hour after hour with a consumer grade small tractor? I can think of a lot of things that people try and do with too small of a tractor. Right size tractor for the given job …… usually works the best. Thanks for your response and comment. Nice to have contact with creators.
@@robertkeime4907 The tractor has built in systems and design constraints that don’t allow you to do that. I’ve done all those things to see what happens.
You can’t lift more than it’s rated for. What happens? Absolutely nothing. It doesn’t lift it off the ground.
Pull too big an implement? Same thing. Either doesn’t spin it or doesn’t lift it.
The tractor doesn’t allow you to do so. You can’t just run a 72” brush hog on a 1025r cuz you want to. It’s unusable on the tractor. You can’t overload the loader and lift 2,000 lbs skids. It’s not physically possible. It’s engineered so that all all parts and features work within the same parameters…axle, tires, frame, loader, backhoe, hydraulic system, engine, etc.
@@GoodWorksTractors some damage is small like the front seals. others is bigger like breaking the frame. hard to do - not really. A) load bucket. B) take tractor off road C) bounce on uneven ground and twist on hills from point a to point b D) loud scary noise and now you have 2 tractors! E) wait for repair.
A trailer to "solve" the problem has challenges - they cost as much as the tractor if they carry anything, the carry as much as the bucket if they are cheap, you have to hitch and unhitch them and with a trailer you can't get into where you want with a 30HP (give or take) compact tractor.
@@boomerau This has nothing to do with the size of the tractor. You can abuse a tractor in many ways, but that is not working it beyond it's limitations. That's called being an idiot. :)
Got any helpful tips on someone getting into being a dealer for new tractor implements? I’ve been selling buying trading used and new from auction stuff for years now. Unsure where to start when it comes to getting these implement companies to get back with me. Several emails out and nothing back on becoming a dealer for them.
How much are the mirrors and grab handles as shown in this video for the 1025R?
Very happy with my 1025r. It's a little bulldog!
Which one between the 1025r and the summit would you buy? And why?
I have owned a larger tractor and then we moved into town. Got a BX specifically because it is such a small footprint.
I'm wondering when you will start selling the Summit tractor. Or not. So far however I've not seen or heard of anywhere in the North East where one could be purchased only in the Midwest and the South.
I have my eyes on the Summit... any idea of WHEN they're coming out with the bigger engine?
So where can you buy these summit tractors? I'm located 60 miles south of Chicago any dealers in IL?
How much longer until summit is available in eastern PA?
I've been on the fence on several. Size wise kioti 2610/equivalent Kubota. I'm on 9.5 acres. 7 with lakes included. Attachments is my big point. Grapple, forks, backhoe are tops plus a land pain or box blade. Where I'm at, not only on my property but making side money. Rented a backhoe 2 years ago. On 4 neighbors, digging drainage, etc I more than paid for the rental and I charged extremely low... Attachments and hydraulic power flow is what my buying point will be.
Same. Have you considered the L2501?
@Neet Channel I have and it's the strong contender. Keeping me at the 25hp mark. I rate them by hydraulic pump volume. Yes, I look at overall reliability certainly but a backhoe doesn't need pto, just hydraulics. The kioti for comparison beats most I've seen and price point can't be beat.
What about the Bad Boy Model 4035 Mid-Size Tractor ?
Interesting that the 1025 looks the same size as the summit yet it has smaller wheels
My mahindra emax22L has ran head long into everything ive asked it to do it does things I honestly never expected that it could it shocks me how much these little machines will actually do for someone to say its just a lawn mower is nuts ill drag your mobile home off its foundation bud dont mess with my little friend
Also here in VT people with small tractors work em to death and trash em. The bigger stuff is built for it
Totally agree.
Have a good weekend!
Anyone on here know if a JD 1025R qualifies for tax exemption or is that for larger tractors? I'm from Ohio and my farm is under Ohio farm tax rules but I'm not exactly sure how the tax exemption rules work on every single thing.
I love my 4052r cab tractor
Excellent machine for sure!
Tough if you want to buy John Deere but need the factory cab.. your stuck going to straight to a 3 series
very true
Is it possible to damage your front loader by lifting at one edge of the bucket causing a twist, or is it within the tractor’s natural limits to just not lift any further when it’s too much?
Yes it's possible to damage the FEL frame (tweek, twist, crack, tip over).
I wish I had a Ventrac.
I can't stand sub compacts. I've hated every one I've used. They feel unstable, too light, too confined to work on.
My Mahindra 1626 is A LOT more tractor than a than a JD or Kubota subcompact and it costs less!
My neighbors with sub compacts are always asking for me to help them because they cant do things i can.
A tractor is not the best at anything except being average at a lot of things - basically your why have more motors video. So no 2 people will have the same need and usage pattern.
I mow the main paddocks with a ride-on - if prices would drop and stock levels return a zero turn is on the wish list. The tractor does the aeration and mows it when it gets tall. The tractor also does the trails.
Otherwise basically the TLB is about 4 landscaping machines that each cost almost as much as a tractor but each would do 1 job "better" and then I need another big shed to store 4 machines which costs as much another tractor with all the costs to set it up not just the kit "price". At the moment the tractor with rops up just drives in beside the cars - yes the "garage" has the taller roller doors for this.
Also bigger is more fuel to manage and burn through - if you're a business this is a tax write off - as an individual it is a post tax cost!
I haven't bothered with towing - smaller car offsets "delivery" costs if it needs to go offsite everyone should drive a tractor up on a moving tilt tray as an exercise in spatial awareness! But as you said you buy any sort of truck+trailer and there goes $100K excluding insurance and running costs and these go up with tractor size.
And then there is snow - not a problem I have but wow heating a big shed must cost $$$
You missed one is a 10-23 E
Buy a small machine if you want to putz around your yard and do cute stuff. Safe, cheap, simple little machine for simple little jobs. But if you're looking to move material, move trees, load trucks, pull stuck machines out, plow snow, have real pto power, do farming etc. Get a big tractor. Most people don't need a real tractor to do real work. So maybe stick with the little toys? They are kinda fun and safe
I like being able to lift and curl at the same time.
Yep, that is handy
Maybe I'm wrong, but Deere doesn't allow this and Kubota does?
I bought my jd 1025R a few years ago. The tractor alone costed only about $13,000 brand new. Today, these tractors cost $18,000. Everything is so expensive now, especially on a smaller piece of equipment. If you buy a tractor, like a car, it's a long term commitment. Once you buy it off the lot, your not going to be able to easily return it or sell it. If your considering to buy a tractor along with implements, make sure you have a budget you can support to make the payments.
Bigger but have a large ag property that needed the 'large mid size' not the 'large ag size' tractor.
I already feel like my 55hp cab tractor IS small sometimes. I wouldn't want anything smaller.
I have owned a TC34DA for about 14 years and love it. My dad recently bought a compact Kubota 24hp. I could not believe how inferior the new Kubota was compared to my New Holland. Kubota Engine and Hydro super noisy. Lousy operator ergonomics and a poorly designed hydro pedal that is extremely stiff. Very Underpowered and could barely pull itself up a hill when mowing. I would never buy a tractor with less than 35hp. Anything less is just a toy.
What's crazy is Kubota hasn't hardly changed anything in 10 years but keep charging way more $$. Just like a Harley.