Chinese navy exploding in numbers: More ships AND tonnage than US Navy?
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2022
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This video takes a detailed look at the last 20 years of the Chinese navy. It compares its buildup with the one of the US Navy over the same period. Just how did the US Navy got itself into a situation where the Chinese Navy overtook it not only in number of ships but also in overall tonnage per year? Watch the video to find out.
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You mean 6 stars.
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Every few people the only person in the world to get 6 stars? Lieutenant General George Washington who received it nearly 200 years after his service in 1976. I do not think corpses really count though.
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Unless my ASD defenses are up? That does use predictive software and works 100%. If you dropped a million marbles off a bomber it would actively track each one of them. And then predict their trajectory before they reach that point. Funny enough the most powerfull 'weapon' on real ships? Really big supercomputers.
How about the condition for some people called precognative aiming? They only even figured out that was an actual thing during WWII.
Suddenly your comment mattered
I have to commend Binkov for his constant effort to stay objective. This raises this channel above the crowd. It is refreshing to see when there are so many channels covering military affairs that are drenched in propaganda and agendas.
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One reason for the fast expansion of the Chinese navy is that, because the entire Chinese military industry is state owned and self-sufficient, they can build ships at much lower costs than the US counterparts who rely on profit-driven private contractors. One Type 055 costs less than 1 billion USD while one Burke class destroyer costs ~2 billion, despite their comparable capabilities (I may even argue that Type 055 is slightly better, at least on paper). Not to mention the failed Zumwalt-class that costs a staggering $4.2 B per ship.
@@benchoflemons398 I don't think China imports equipment from the USA, so no it can't be built by American slaves in concentration camps, aka prisoners.
@@benchoflemons398 4. Us prisoners do get laid by their fellow immates
@@benchoflemons398 Genuine question: how many hours of Free Radio Asia or Fox News does one have to watch in order to be as brainwashed as you are? It takes a really intellectually challenged person to honestly believe in ridiculous craps like organ harvesting. I guess you also think that there are 5G chips hidden in your masks to spy on you right?
@@harryw4480 - it's not about the hours watched, for these people it's more of a lifestyle. They grew up with fear and hatred in their hearts, so it's the only way they can view the world around them. Try not to hate them in return though, they are victims of their own upbringing, just as their parents probably were, it's really a tragedy and they should be pitied for their lives that could have been.
I remember seeing a documentary showing how the prison labour were assembling parts for Ratheon in u.s.
The strength of a country depends on its industrial strength and R&D investment. During World War II, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and bombed dozens of American destroyers, causing the United States to lose two-thirds of its warships. However, the industrial strength of the United States is 400 million tons of steel and the output value is four times that of Japan. The production of hundreds of warships in a few years has changed the war situation. . At present, China's industrial strength is more than 10 times that of the United States. The steel output value exceeds 1 billion tons. What the U.S. government is really afraid of is that China's industrial strength, manufacturing, depends on China in every aspect. The U.S. industrial chain system cannot be autonomous at all
Not to mention they attacked on a holiday, when there was the least personnel in the ships, so there wasn't a big loss of manpower to manner the ships.
Quality vs quantity. Made in China exists for a reason ;)
@@Martin_Hayes what about manpower? I mean, you need to train ppl to drive those ships, so I expect them to have thousands of sailors in reserve.
@@MrTigracho No you don't. How do you even 'drive' ships? Lmao!
wow, someone with a good sense of logic talking about productivity capacity and resources. And something worth to note is, China is not using its full capacity on militarize itself, as it doesn't involved in any war in the past years. Many people ignores the objective of PLA, China army aimed and designed to fight within Asia, while literally all US base that located in Asia are within the coverage of China mid-range rockets and missile. In term of space war, China has shown its capability on knocking down satellite as well. Fighting with China within Asia region doesn't make much sense and yet people still comparing US fleet with China Navy which have complete different objective in nature.
I really love how calm, well thought out and relatively well sourced you are compared to similar channels. One piece of news causes them to churn out a slew of topical videos that hype up a potential conflict because it will get views. edit: and the peaceful message at the end of your videos is great!
Well said.
@Maverick born and raised American, I'm not in the slightest concerned about Chinese ships. Good luck invading us Armed Americans.
@@derricktaylor470 obviously you and your government think different. They are so eager to hype thing up to add more zero to the already massive military budgets
@@xiaomose7495 dude if I could legally avoid paying the taxes that they imposed as a "temporary measure" during WWII our war budget would be slightly lesser.
@Maverick oh, you are one of those people... You'd be considered a left leaning liberal that thinks guns are bad but killing unborn babies is ok "if" you were an American.
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I think the rapid naval expansion of China was largely contributed by the American carrier groups wandering the South China Sea, a constant reminder to China about the strength disparities between themselves and the US threat, which in turn encourages China to churn out lots of warships.
Yeah they counted on America to protect them in World War II
@@six7bmb122 You're talking about KMT, who is now counting on America to protect Taiwan
The Chinese navy sent warships to American sea borders too. But American news media are good at hiding their embarassment 😂
@@aburetik4866 got proof to back statement? Or you're talking about cargo ships?
@@aburetik4866 if you're talking about that 2014 incident, it don't mean much as literally it's been the hotbed for incursions.
This video gives us good idea of China's increased build capacity and it's resulting tonnage. In addition to comparing US/China tonnage, I would also like to see a comparison of firepower. That would probably require its own video.
Chinese ship have more firepower but less range than their American counterparts because they're not part of global power projection.
I lived for a while with a Chinese translator who worked for naval intelligence. They said that Chinese naval production is so much more efficient because, unlike the US navy, it is not regarded as a pork-barrel stimulus project. That's not to say that China doesn't have its fair share of graft and unnecessary spending, but in this case much more money actually goes into the boats themselves.
Because the shipyards are state owned. Although the lack of competition will have issues in the long run
i dont agree with that one bit and half the time its always chinese that right the positive commets. China mindset is always to take short cuts thats why nobody buys there cars and more japanese cars are sold in china than chinese ones. if you look at phones and other tech products everythng from china is made to last few weeks as cheaper as possible... go look at there farm stuff, its the cheapest lightest weakest steal you can find that rusts and bends so easy, no wonder its so light weight thats how they keep the price down.
@@taiwanno1wan126 so true! If anyone wants to test this out themself go to Dollar General, Dollar Tree, etc. and see how long any of those items/products from China last
@@LOL-zu1zr they are state owned, but they don't lack competition. each yards competes against all the other yards
@@taiwanno1wan126 Continue writing on youtube using whatever device with Chinese parts in it.
the type 055 is a game changer, new type of ship coming as well
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Even if China outnumbers the US 2:1 in shipping - I don't think a direct war is likely. Purely because they both have such a capability to cause massive economic damage to eacthother, similar to the naval dynamics in the first world war. Also the actual economy will be thrown into depression if the 1 & 2 largest GDP countries mobilise for war, and it will likely be a bad outcome for all parties.
China is mainly an exporter, and the US is mainly an importer. Plus china is under a communist regime. The economy crash would only be an issue for the west.
That much is certain.
its called MAD. all UNSC P5 mainlands are safe because they all have fusion warheads and second strike capability. even if they fight, it'll be some "volunteer" action and not direct war. this is also why i think the us isn't going to fight china on behalf of taiwan, at best it sends weapons and shares intel.
@Maverick They still have this preconceived idea that China is somehow just the factory of the world, yes China exports a lot, but you are correct, in terms of percentage, export for the Chinese economy accounts for very little, in fact it's one of the lowest in the G20 economies.
As China push for more domestic consumption, the portion will decrease, which is good, and is a sign of a mature economy
Many of the U.S destroyers are old actually they have desingned in 1990...; chinese built 32 destroyers in last 12 years hence U.S just built 13.
No offense but do you really trust Chinese engineering?
@@PershingOfficial "trust me bro i bought some super cheap thing and it broke"
You're right and yet the technology of those so-called "1990" ships" are still much ahead than that of those built in the past 12 years. If you look up history, the US has the capacity to build ships twice the speed that China can build during times of war if needed.
@Huy dinh duc agreed
@@Beyond_Camping lmfao if you think the American destroyers stand a chance against the type 55 you are dreaming
Exceptionally good video
It hasn’t even been an hour and this comment section is a nightmare lmao
TBH it is what you should expect, a lot of them are not adults.
So many Chinese bots
@@J_X999 and an equal number of "china bad" crowd
@@J_X999 I actually haven't seen any. I only see this taiwanno1wan guy talking up a storm about how the US can whoop every other country.
Quantity and tonnage stand for nothing when experience quality and ordinance is taken into account.
I'd be really curious to know how good Chinese hardware and personnel would perform in a conflict with another major power. Neither has really been tested on a two way range.
They tried it in World War 2 and the Korean War.
While at the times, they suffered from lack of industrial development, they managed to win both times.
I don't, that would inevitably end with global nuclear warfare and nobody wants to see that.
This is the reason they keep the war cold, they doesn't want to get measured by foreigners
@@acutechicken5798 Chinese won the Korean war? I'm sorry? The border is still at 38th parallel and the objective of communists was to conquer the entire peninsula, which they failed at.
@@kusajko3644 Yeah, that's a solid stalemate if there ever was one. China also invaded and got kicked out of Vietnam in the late 70's after the American withdrawal, and their forces were pushed back with tens of thousands of casualties in a month of brutal fighting before they withdrew. The Vietnamese took severe losses as well, but they defended their sovereignty.
Wow, awesome presentation
Is it just me or does anyone else thinks that the type 055 destroyer is an incredibly beautiful ship?
Even the future US DDG(X) want to look like it
Yes, indeed. The weapon systems on that ship are also pretty awesome:
ruclips.net/video/fUa8eFM04Vc/видео.html
Actually feel kinda bad for Binkov, dude makes very decent videos but attracts such a cringe comment section.
Youre cringe.
Dude, that's the least to be expected anything that discusses topics with connection to most countries that are sensitive to the most trivial of opinions about them will be triggered, ignorant or not.
@@lochnessmonsta2981 case and point.
Another one of those "everyone but me is cringe in this comment section" type of person.
And that's coming from an "xd xd"
but, yeah in all seriousness there are some pretty stupid claims being thrown around in the comment section, but that's to be expected from any political video given just how many individuals are brainwashed.
@@Ethorbit I never implied 'everyone but me is cringe', but yes it was getting annoying reading all these nonsensical comments on topics that people do not understand nor have an impact on.
lmao this is nothing. i work out everyday and have attained god-like muscles. any country will need an extremely large navy to even have a chance at defeating me
Hey could you do a vid where you predict what will happen in europe once this is all over like how will it pan out and what will the consequences be? Love the vids man👍
The last "sense" of naval combat between two modernized nations we have is from the Falklands War, which is 40 years old now, and even back then you could already see how extremely vulnerable ships are on open water. Carrier Groups are great if you want to control some inferior nation that cant defend itself on water, chip away their anti air / radar, then bomb as you like.
If two forces like this would met in a global conflict today, I have a feeling that it wont matter "how much" ships you have. It probably will be most important to stay as far away as possible from the opponent while still being able to strike first.
The last big one was actually Operation Praying Mantis in 1988. USA vs Iran.
And how many you can produce. And the manpower to drive them.
@@tritium1998 last one was actually Ukraine. Some ships have been sunk
For geopolitical context, view the articles in which US sources talked about controlling the seas around China. And read about the incidents in the seas near China from the early 1990s to the 2000s in which the US pressed its air/naval advantage at a time when China did not embark on strengthening its defence seaward.
I recently had the pleasure of being on a very old US DDG (two-digit hull for those counting) on a post-CMAV shakedown. While we were out we got tasking to shadow a Renhai class. Obviously not going to share how the shadow went, but once we got into visual range we threw off the gloves and started a drag race for two days. We won. Not saying all US DDGs could have won, not saying all Renhai class ships would have lost. But it was pretty cool that our old as hell ship was able to keep pace.
Some things come down to physics. Certain hull shapes just wont go over a certain speed. These days, everything else is just fancy electronics, which can be swapped out pretty easily.
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At one point, China had more ships than the rest of the world, combined. They might be aspiring to do the same again.
I believe you meant by Zheng He Treasure Ship Fleet of the Ming Dynasty. The fleet was a floating city, having more people onboard than half the population of London.
Yeah, that was a 30 year period when China ruled the seas, with the goal of establishing peaceful trade network throughout South Asia, even into the Arab world and Africa.
Let’s hope this new fleet will be used for a similarly peaceful purpose.
@@thomaszhang3101 until the ming dynasty decide to say fuck ships
@@omarjaafar6020 ye, either the economic situation or internal politics, or both, caused all the football field long treasurerships to be scrapped, what a shame.
But the money that went into the ships were used to complete the Great Wall, so that’s that.
@@thomaszhang3101 the ming dynasty was probably worst chinese dynasty of all time as they isolated themselves from the world and when the machu tribes came they where ill prepared
@@omarjaafar6020 they didn’t isolate intentionally. They started out strong and raised a huge army to keep pushing west, but they got over ambitious and had to scale back not bankrupt the treasury.
Then after a while, Japan invaded Korea and Ming drained a ton of money to fight the Japanese. Just when the Japanese are defeated, the Manchu came-
At the time, Ming troops are battle hardened and ready for a fight, the issue was almost entirely lack of money and internal political turmoil. So much so that when the Manchu invaded China, their reason was to help the Ming to squash rebellion, but decided to take over control instead when then rebellion was squashed.
Either way, the late Ming was not successful, but it was pretty efficient as a system early on.
Lol the Russian are looking for Americans army in Ukraine but they are nowhere to be found, turns out they are on the internet 🤣
hahahha. good one :)
There is a pandemic. They have to work from home
Elden Ring came out, where else would expect people to be?
Watching this makes me want to watch Drach's video on Washington Treaty again
"This is what I call a target-rich environment"
-Secret Weapons Over Normandy
This is a clear demonstration of the importance of comparing purchasing power rather than just dollars spent. China's military budget is less than half that of the US in dollar terms, but in terms of purchasing power China spends more. And with recent improvements in technology it's no longer a matter of quantity over quality. Just as important, consider that if the US and China clash, the US will be fighting the entire Chinese force but using perhaps half the US force as the rest would be deployed in the Persian Gulf, the Mediterranean, and Atlantic. So in that sense (except for carriers) China has already surpassed the US in terms of forces that would be available in the western Pacific.
The problem for China is they have so many enemies and few allies. If India, Japan, S. Korea, and Australia jump into the war on the US's side, which is a big possibility, they would have no chance.
Even when accounting for purchasing power the US still outspends China. China is building more ships, but the US has to maintain a larger fleet. Even then we’re just talking about the navy right now. The US airforce is enormous for example.
I disagree, this strategy could be comparable to the Naval Arms race between Britain and Germany leading up to World War 1. The Germans tried to rapidly develop an industrial navy but soon realized that they couldn't keep up with the British. When it came to tactics, the British navy was also spread across the globe protecting their colonies and dominions, so the Germans rather than spreading their forces, consolidated them in Europe in order to have a large enough fleet to take on the British forces individually. Unlike the British in this scenario though, the US is not burdened with protecting all the global oceanic regions. If we wanted to, we could recall most of our forces across the globe and consolidate them in the regions that matter most (in this case the Pacific and Indian oceans).
@@cjcanton9121: That's true. The US has friends who will fight alongside the Navy, whereas China has threatened all their neighbors, so no one would come to their aid. Those four countries plus Singapore (whose forces would be formidable in the South China Sea) would certainly tip the scales toward the US side.
Just like China had no chance in Korean War vs nuclear superpower USA and 17 other countries when China was in poverty and had zero tech right?
Oh wait.
China has nukes, no one is touching China. Only an idiot would join a war against China if they didn't have to. As in China didn't directly attack or wage war against them first. Your fantasies of alliance against China is just that, a fantasy. Even USA won't fight China unless China attacked if first which China won't. USA isn't going to get nuked and destroyed over Taiwan which USA recognises as part of one China.
It only takes a couple years to make a ship. It takes a lifetime to make a chief petty officer.
Really? 2008 to 2022. How many here?
Quote: the class Gerald R. Ford. The first ship of the class, CVN-78, was procured in 2008 and commissioned into service on 22 July 2017.
BUT, for action? Quote: "After two decades of development and delays, the transformational carrier is ready for action.
APR 8, 2022"
@@outman6207 What's your point? The Ford was built on a peace time schedule, and "a couple" doesn't necessarily mean "two."
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U so, China has three factory with ability of building carrier while USA only has one.
@@outman6207 America has raw materials. As China challenges the world order, nobody is going to want to sell to China. The only way China will be able to acquire raw materials will be to take them. That has a way of making enemies, so China will need all those shipyards cranking out a whole lot of ships, because the USA will only be one of a great many enemies.
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U well, you know what? You are right! Don't you remember 1951 Korean war? USA was only one of those united nations of 16 armies. Then what happened after Chinese sent troops? Lol. By the way challenge the world?. No no, china is building army to protect itself, the goal is defeat USA within the area that matters. But USA has to spread the army all over the world. And if it can't defeat Chinese in Pacific, the ruling is over.
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God forbid these weapons of war be used, but you can’t deny those boats look awesome!
That's the great irony. War is horrible, about as horrible as anything can be, but the machines of war are frickin' awesome, awesome to the point where it's almost worth it.
@@alanfriesen9837 Like why can’t we use them in like a war olympics or something 🤣
@@exactlybasically8603 Y'know I've thought of that. Wouldn't it be cool just to have a massive war game where you pit two countries' forces against each other in a series of non-lethal battles. I'd definitely be willing to pay to watch the highlights.
I don't think it would fly because everyone has too many secrets. But it would be soooooo cool.
God bliss China.
@@yungunit8299 oh yeah the authoritarian regime that actively tears down churches
They got some nice looking ships.
Don't worry Americans. China don't have shit on us as long as we have Popeye The Sailor Man
Japan have Godzilla on their side
Kazakhstan greatest navy in the world. All other navies are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan navy employs catgirls (domestically produced) to increase morale
I heard Kazakhstan navy ship go skeet skeet bang bang
“Quantity has a quality all its own.” We might want to remember that and keep our shipyards busy.
Everything is too expensive in America. From parts and material to workers.
Good point might as well build as much ships as possible now while there cheaper
shanghai’s Jiangnan Shipyard which is the world’s largest commercial shipyard considers naval vessels under 110,000 ton deadweight as small boats . It has built container ships, cruise ships of 240,000 ton, 220,000 ton deadweight respectively for global customers
good video
You loved the Anglo-German naval arms race ? now get ready for its much anticipated sequel : The Sino-American naval arms race (with extra subs !)
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How do we know we can trust their numbers? I’ve heard they count a lot of civilian/coast guard vessels as part of their navy
A lot of them are just fishing boats with small guns attachted to them
because they didnt accuse other nation of possessing WMD just to invade them
This is what they do with EVERYTHING in this horrid country I find myself. Everything is fake and a lie. I live in a big city in central China, during the pandemic they left the factories running, literally turning on the machines just to show that they were "producing" things and used the electricity wasted as proof the ccp dog overlords. The city says they are growing economically but at least 4 malls near me are all closed. Don't believe a fucking thing these dogs say.
@@thetrist333 They also include cargo ships in their navy. Some cargo ships are full of missiles also, trojan horses.
@@minus21334 non sequitur
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I wouldn't normally point out this sort of stuff but you left out one very key metric - the number and tonnage of ships being decommissioned each year by each nation.
If you include this then the Chinese buildup looks even more alarming - for every supercarrier the US has commissioned over the last 21 years they have generally also decommissioned one as well, while apart from their corvettes and older frigates the Chinese have hardly decommissioned anything. In 2001 the US had 12 carriers in service while the Chinese had now, next year the US will be down to 11 carriers while the Chinese will have three. Similar counts could be done (I'm too lazy !) in terms of full sized destroyers, LCDs and fleet submarines, in pretty much every category that counts the Chinese are approaching parity or superiority with the US in terms of numbers, tonnage and capability with the US.
it's no wonder the US has been so panicked by the Chinese build up !
China also decommissioned a lot ship. But the ships are generally much smaller than the ship replaced them. Such as Type 051 destroyer and Type 053 frigate. Missile boat are replace by much larger Type 056 corvette.
Chinese ships still aren’t technologically equal tho
@@mrgeorgeb0062 French, British and US, etc designs/parts all jammed into what you would call a destroyer.
@@MrROFLReaper I can’t tell if you’re for or against my point
@@mrgeorgeb0062 what I'm saying is China's modern destroyers are reversed copycats.
Thank you.
Quantity has its own quality
Germans had way better everything than the US but the US still won most of the encounters from quantity
Multiple things he left out. CCP is out building US while at the same time the US is decommissioning more ships each year than they're building. The US doesn't have the facilities to both match the CCP in building on top of maintaining the fleet.
It will be interesting to see how the CCP deals with maintenance after they have to start rotating all these new ships into drydocks since they were built so close together. I feel the CCP will use many ill-maintained ships as missile sponges during navel engagements as they try to expand their sphere of influence.
Just a thought and perhaps people are not seeing the writing on the wall. Do you suppose the Americans are deliberately letting the CCP poor billions of $$$$ into there navy/military??? Do you think the Americans know that China will eventually implode rendering all that waisted spending on useless military hardware that will eventually need to be mothballed????
@@theclown2393 china will get taiwan in few years, just like what russia is doing to ukraine.
Could you make a video about how the German Army should use all these new funds to rebuild and what systems they should buy/produce to combat their current weakspots? would be super interesting!
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Very good
This comment section is a larger war zone than the pacific in WW2 lol
Building ships is expensive and hard. Operating and maintaining warships with trained and ready crews effectively is much much harder and much more expensive.
...and takes decades to know how to win a fight on the ocean.
Build your own space station firstly 😂 and our Robert can cook haha
That is some beautiful stock footage.
Can we get a video about what Germany could do with their new military budget of around 2%+ GDP, and the huge Investment worth 2 years of yearly spending?
Oh that is easy. They could invade Poland with that.
10.000 panzerfaust?
@@stepbruv8780 I wouldn't even be mad tbh.
win ww3? third time’s a charm
Judging by tonnage is a rather archaic measure of judging strength and at least dates back to the dreadnought race over 100 years ago.
Tonnage isn't now and wasn't a hundred years ago, anywhere close to a comprehensive measure of naval strength. But its still a useful if simplistic measure.
@@timwf11b it's because naval treaties were done by tonnage. Battleships were judged by tonnage (and the size of their guns, then speed) more than anything else.
@@sergarlantyrell7847 Yes tonnage was relevant to treaties then, but the point I was making is that tonnage is relevant to combat power. Bigger ships can have bigger radars, more sensors, more fuel, more weapons etc. Smaller ships in larger numbers (which also gives more tonnage) can have more power then the same smaller ship in smaller numbers.
Of course there are all sorts of other factors besides tonnage. A supertanker isn't the most powerful warship in the world. Just like there are other factors besides the size of armies on land. But all else being equal bigger is better in terms of combat power, and if all else isn't equal, if you have poorer technology or training or design, more tonnage can make up for some of that.
Tonnage can also be a measure of how much new technology they can put on it. Tonage doesn't only indicate how thick a hull is.
@@timwf11b Why scream all these lies? Where is Onus Probandi to your words and claims? Where is this 'point' you claim exists? I do not see one anywhere.
Remember when my 7yo called Avenger Assemble? He defeated Captain Kirk. Proving you wrong.
Binkov forgot to give stats on harpoon missile stocks.
If the US is having trouble keeping up with 3 times the military budget, then they deserve to be surpassed.
The Chinese keep stealing technology lol that's how they come this advanced .they hacked everything every major nation has . They even have to buy jet engines because they still cant produce them well
@@shadowrealm8014 they steal 5G from US , thats why US dont have 5G
@@shadowrealm8014 Ah the fake name lying troll.
Meet my awesome power you can never hope to defeat ... Innocent? Untill proven guilty.
Going to fight civil rights now comrade? Maybe focus on ending sentences. Every 1st grader beyond the Great Firewall has masted it. Who does not use basic grammar? Wait it is China???
No 50 cents for you comrade.
@@shadowrealm8014 which technology did they steal? Name the actual tech if you can
@@VashtheStampede007 Try applying basic grammar and end sentences if you can?
Oooh wait. You can't, lmao!
After Reading these comments from the general of Internet, Chinese navy think they need more ships.
😂
yes💪
Will you… talk on the Ukraine situation??
I find it so interesting that a knife 🔪 manufacturer is sponsoring this video,
It just sets a mood to the video, lets you know the matter to be discussed is sharp and dangerous
The graphic at 11:57 showing the low end and high end estimate for Chinas output is the same. And none of the numbers changed
people seriously underestimate the chinese navy compared to the american one
@Lightning The USN is definitely superior to the PLN but most people seem to think china only produces small crappy corvette and frigates that stand no chance to deal damage to the US navy but in reality they’d post a huge threat. China is ahead of the US in terms of cruisers also (they call them destroyers but they’re literally cruisers)
@@redtob2119 Haha da comrade hiding behind a fake name. We know Chinese cannot use capital letters for names in the middle of sentences. And can China end sentences like a 1st grader? Ofcourse they cannot. Xi forgets to teach them basic grammar, lmao!
So where is your evidence? Gonna go with my Great Leader said so?
Adolph also scream superior!!!!!! Japanese Imperial Navy? Scream the same as you.
Go ahead then? Scream for China!
@Lightning Sure go ahead? Post your official source with the percentages.
PLA has never been defeated. USA has only experience vs goat herders and peasants, and they've always been defeated. From Korea and Vietnam, which were vs China and Chinese backed Vietnamese, to Afghanistan. All defeats.
USA has zero experience fighting a modern army of China's caliber, especially off China's coast which is where any fighting will take place.
There's no experience which will defeat Chinese anti ship missiles from coastal batteries, or their carrier killer missiles with 1500km range.
USA has never fought against nuclear power with asat capabilities and hypersonics which can target anywhere in USA in less than 30 minutes.
USA can only fight weak countries who can't fight back, and even then, like I said, every time they fought China or their neighbour, they lost. In Korea or Vietnam or Afghanistan, all China's neighbours, all lost.
And in Korean War, that was USA and 17 other countries, fighting a 1 year old China who was in crippling poverty with peasants and pea shooters with zero literacy rate or education, zero sea or air power, zero heavy weapons, and still lost.
PLA and China is undefeated, and undefeatable back then let alone today when China is united and 98% approval rating.
If there is a war, it will be China defending its sovereignty and teritory, ie Taiwan or SCS, which will give China even more of an advantage morale and dedication wise. It's an existential threat for China if they lose, so they will fight to the last man. USA will have no chance if they choose to fight, but just like Ukraine, USA is not dumb and won't ever fight vs either Russia or China directly.
In USAs own war games fighting over Taiwan, they get reamed every time. Like not even close, they just get roflstomped. And every year that passes, it only gets more and more in China's favor. That's objective and undeniable facts. USA is 10000km away, China is 100km. Not much USA can do, especially when China has unstoppable carrier killer missiles that have 1500 km range, which means USA cannot use the jets on the carriers since they don't have the range to go do missions and come back. China also has a bigger navy than USA, and it will all be concentrated next to China obviously while USA is spread out all over the world. China can also pick and choose when to attack, if at all. By the time USA can even respond and get there, the war will already be over. China can build up and mass up slowly like right now and there's nothing anyone can do until it's too late. There's no defending Taiwan if China really wanted to use force. Same as Hong Kong back in the day. But it's just China doesn't want to kill other Chinese and destroy their own island and infrastructure. Same as Hong Kong. They can and will unify peacefully, same as Hong Kong. Taiwan can never declare independence, so there's only one way it can end. With unification. Time is on China's side, so there's no rush. Every day and year that passes, China is stronger and richer while Taiwan and USA weaker and poorer, relative to China at least.
You know Taiwan is only 100km from china and that China can cover the whole of Taiwan with radar and anti air missiles from the mainland? Soon as plane takes off in Taiwan an anti air missile in China can take it out straight away. Every jet would be mapped and tracked 24/7. China would have air superiority and there would be nothing Taiwan can do. Taiwan would lose all its runways, military bases, radar sites, anti air batteries etc instantly as soon as China decides to attack. Taiwan could only hide in mountain caves and try fight some guerilla war, but that won't last long since they are an island which will be blockaded, and China has 1.4 billion people and will just eradicate all resistance easily. They have the tech and surveillance to defeat guerrilla warfare tactics, there's no where in Taiwan they can hide and base attacks from, it's too small. China would easily root out all resistance. No outside forces can resupply Taiwan resistance once China is fighting and blockading the island and covering it all with anti air and anti ship radar and missile batteries from mainland.
If China attacks, USA can only watch as China takes Taiwan, and then maybe try bomb Taiwan itself after China has won and China controls it. They can never defend or take Taiwan back, only bomb Taiwan itself..
HOWEVER, after China takes Taiwan, it will be considered part of China proper, and any attack on Taiwan is the same as an attack on China.
This would be cosmdiered an act of war and also an unprovoked attack on China which will of course force China to retaliate with an attack on America. Probably target Guam or Hawaii, or USA bases in Japan or wherever USA attacked Taiwan from.
If USA responds again, then it will be full on war with both mainlands taking damage, and can easily escalate to all satellites being taken out, no one able to leave earth ever again for thousands or millions of years due to debris, and of course, nuclear Armageddon.
USA will not risk total war with China over Taiwan. Just like they will not risk total war with Russia over Ukraine. They won't even risk a little war, let alone total. Just see Syria. Too scared to even do anything in Syria.
After Afghanistan and Ukraine, USA and west have lost all credibility and only a moron would rely on them for any long term support, let alone military protection when it comes to Russia or China.
USA will not do anything against Russia or China unless they are directly attacked or USAs own core interests are directly threatened. Taiwan is not a USA core interest it will risk total war vs China over. Same as Ukraine.
@@MrFlatage bruh what are you on lmao i don’t even know what you’re talking about
China should be considered as no.2 military. Not Russia
They have no hypersonic weapons. Russian have. I think this changes balance greatly.
@@user-tf6nq7xj7q ICBMs are essentially hypersonic missiles and the hypersonic glide missiles (HGM) have the same phases with the terminal phase allowing for manuverability to avoid missile defense systems, but they are essentially the same technology with little differences. Neither Russia or China are working on hypersonic cruise missiles (HCM) or at least not publicly and both of them are FAR behind the US in development of HCMs, but ahead of the US in HGMs. However, the US has little interest strategically in HGMs. No country on earth can defend against an ICBM barrage, which would make the functionality of a HGM useless. They have more strategic value for Russia or China because it will allow them to target assets like aircraft carriers with a maneuverable HGM, but the US has an entirely different strategic reality.
Russian military hardware are of quality and the Chinese ones are inferior compared to Russian ones!
@@thegoat5587 is that why the Russian carrier needs tugboats to move? The Russians are dying power trying desperately to look youthful and competitive
@@johng8837 Apart from their carrier, Russia has better military hardware than China!
The low end and high end slides have the same numbers…
11:47 The low end estimate is showing the high end estimate
Japan and South Korea are basically gigantic aircraft carriers for America.
It's not and they'll start telling US to go elsewhere should US tries to drag them to war. They aren't stupid to let US destroy their economy, business & manufacturing sectors just because US wanted to fight China.
You mean bases. Carriers move.
@@jayjay53313 with SK I agree, they have a good chance at telling the USA to piss off even if with a different political party. Not Japan under their current gov though
@@qiqiaoqin1648 Japan too would say that because the Japanese leaders know US wanted to create war with China is not just to attack China's economy & manufacturing sectors but Japan, South Korea & Taiwan as well forcing all the companies to shift to US that is far from warzone and deemed safer. Plan to destroy Asia failed, now US turned to Russia trying to drag NATO to war so that US could become sole supplies, oils, weapons supplier to Europe.
You know after scrolling so long and looking at these comments u get to a point and understand that these people fighting aren't getting anywhere. That it's just a cycle
Good people do exist.
Well done....
I'm guessing that new era of naval warfare will be fought with few carriers, with more hypersonic missiles, cruisers and destroyers. Speed, agility, accuracy and maneuverability vs weight, tonnage and slow but rigid formations.
Oi, focus on Ukraine, won’t you?
Don’t worry about our ships, they are all fishing vessels. We see them go out of fishing harbor everyday.
It all comes down to naval doctrine
lol what is that world of warships camo at 20 sec
quantities vs qualities (to show fear vs to be feared)
More targets
This is getting very worrying. The fact that they are pumping aircraft carriers faster and bigger and more advanced shows how the Chinese navy will not only rely on its numbers but soon it will convert to its quality.
China's economy can't survive a major war. There's also a major gap in experience and morale between China and most western nations' militaries.
They are not advanced at all. Their current carrier is nothing more than a showpiece. The new carrier hasn't even finished building let alone prove it's capability and reliability
@@prachurgupta9719 I agree, but they are still way better than India.
@@J_X999 India's ecoenmy has been growing at a faster rate than China's for the past ten years. Their population is expected to surpass them before 2050 as well. So who know maybe that could change, with US help.
@@bon7029 American economy can't survive major war either, it can't support its current wars either.
Thats why they are pulling out from some countries, reducing their presense from others and not engaging in other conflicts in any major way
when space warfare gonna be a think ? battle for orbital stations , orbital bombardment , etc
Could be now, but treaty prohibits
Nobody builds this aggressively unless it fits in with a long term strategy
Strengthening the navy? About time... It has been more the 600 years since we last did that lol.
Yeah. Maybe learn to feed your people first😂
@@fencserx9423 Wow Russia just cannot end sentences. Luckily no report or evidence to any feeding. Classical communist propaganda BS.
Luckily outside of commie delusions? Free citizens all have names. And every democratic constitution demands Onus Probandi. So lies and propaganda screams keep failing, lmao!
@@fencserx9423 That is an oooolllld taunt, dating back to the 1960s.
@@capitalism2096 Yes in the year 2022? Anyone is free to visit the US soup kitchens. Did you know the Americans still have a Food Stamp program?
More people in the US starve then North Korea has citizens.
@@MrFlatage wait, which side are you on?
Build as much as you want maintenance is going to be hell
Agreed. Kids who cannot end sentences? Go straight to hell.
That's the point of the shipyard building. I'm sure china's most basic govement planners would consider that.
@@user-vv7ir1pl4j Fake name Chicom troll does not know the point at all. We all see he cannot end sentences or use capital letters for names. Which we know for Chinese is a endless cycle. No matter what? They cannot master basic grammar. Meanwhile kids outside of China? All learn it.
While growing numbers of warships is always concerning I do appreciate the skill and sciences needed to make a good warship. Here is to hoping that all our warships will go to waste and never be used!
Agreed war is the real enemy!
Nice ships. Lots of new technology in those babies!
Fake news.
希望中国永远没有战争，永远保持和平。
Wishful thinking! America is forcing China to fight a war. It’s only a matter of time.
Do some research into other countries buying China's military equipment especially its planes common issue is reliably across the board.. But over confidence has plagued American military comanders/politicians for years. Great video
Which countries are buying from China? What are they even buying? 🤣
@Jared Moreno I would say it started immediatly after the revolutionary war
@@user-pn3im5sm7k every type of equipment you can think of its like harbor freight vrs snap on
@@saltyninja69 No I mean what countries are buying Chinese military equipment, because I tried to research this a while ago and found nothing. Seems like no one wants crappy Chinese planes, unsurprisingly.
@@user-pn3im5sm7k iv watched a few videos on RUclips about it i know north Korea and a few other small countries but like with everything you get what you pay for
50-100 drone swarms/unmanned submarine equipped with hypersonic missile is like a tsunami you dont want to mess with.
Binkov loves a spreadsheet 😁
Well we're all screwed, it was nice having some freedom while it lasted
China has already launched 400k tonnes of the predicted 580 and it's not only half way until 2025 damn
I like the focus on raw numbers. We can’t know much on specification so any estimates on that is conjecture right now. China will probably have a training bottleneck, it will be interesting to see if and how they overcome that.
Why did you not count Type 55 destroyers in 2021 and 2022 production? They are 13K t vessels.
He is counting them based on launch date, not commissioning date. The two type 55 that was commissioned in 2021 was launched back in 2018.
@@syjiang I thought as much but it would be more accurate to count them based on commissioning date. Delays happen. At least Binkov states that nowadays China is focusing on big combatants and frigates to bolster amphibious operation capabilities and to increase the number of naval fighters. American propaganda insists that Chinese can't keep up the pace. This isn't the case.
@@Khosann1 Make your own video and count them based on commissioning date, see if anyone cares.
@@syjiang Why do you answer then? And why are you upset? Whatever.