Can anything match the F-22 in 2022?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Raptor is still considered by many to be the best jet fighter in existence. Well, how DOES it really stack up against its main competitors in 2022? This video goes in depth as it compares F-22 with the Su-57, the J-20 and the F-35.
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not 22% discount?
The Budget can get the F22
Phanthom of the raptor
@@ShanGamer1981 v
The F22 is also getting the helmet displat/targeting. Also, keep in mind the f35 is build for networking with other f35s, F22s and grund units. So another plateform can target an enemy and they can shoot it down and vice versa.
Yup the US fighters are meant to multiply their sending capability making them untouchable squadron in squadron and there will be more F stealth fighters than anyone else’s 5th gen.
Do you know if the drone squadron thing went anywhere haven’t heard about that in a long while
The F-22s helmet HUD system is likely to be a cut down version of what's onboard F-35 - and F-35's system is already behind the European equivalents. F-22 is very (electrical) power limited and it's proving difficult to come up with a complete modernisation of the avionics suite inside the power-availability envelope - should they decide they have to start delving into the jet engines to uplift power generation - the project cost will undoubtedly spiral out of control and risk being cancelled or will under-deliver.
22 minutes. Nice
Perfection.
In honor of the f-22
Enough to wash the dishes.
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he was a mig 21 pilot oh really?
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The F22 was just so much of an overkill when it entered service.
How ?
@@Ronnie_Darko00 I think they mean it was extremely advanced for the 1990's and 2000's
@@Ronnie_Darko00
Imagine being fighting something you could not see.
Imagine trying to figure out the location of something that launched missiles at you that you'd only know were coming from the RADAR Warning Receiver ringing.
Imagine trying to plan for something that your pilots haven't been able to detect, your air defense RADARs are blind to, and is rapidly becoming the mainstay fighter jet of the enemy.
🌈 "Imagination" 🌈
@@KoishiVibin Imagine thinking you'll take it down at close range and then it either outturns you or the AIM-9 does.
India's mig-21 is the best stealth jet, it often disappear with its pilot.
lol!
Hahaha.. Good one.
Enough to kill a F 16.
Hahaha, i can't stop laughing bro
Iraqi fighters are great at blending into the ground...
I greatly appreciate that the video about F-22, made in 2022, lasts a full 22 minutes and not a second more. Consistency.
wasn't released on february 22 :(
It doesn't really matter that the F-22 is slowly being caught up to by other jets. By the time they do finally surpass the F-22, the US will probably already have Gen 6 jets.
Their rivals are already developing their own gen6 jets, such as Mitsubishi and BAE. I doubt jets would go past gen7 or gen8 given how strong loitering munitions are becoming.
@@someonejustsomeone1469 yeah fighter gens can only go so far before it's all lasers and force fields on those planes
@@jaredevans8263 unironically
NGAD is set to fly by 2025/26 and be in service by 2030.
Allegedly testing of new tech has far exceeded expectations with Variable cycle engines, lasers, new missiles, full body radars and IRST trackers, unmanned modes and integrated drone control having several major breakthroughs.
Calling this thing a "fighter jet may be inaccurate as it will apparently be somewhere between the F-22 and B-21 in terms of size.
@@anguswaterhouse9255 I wonder if the size would be bigger than an F111 with flaps extended.
The F22 was designed in the 80’s, but the thing is it’s highly upgradable. It’s currently the test bed for the sixth gen fighter. The USA upgraded it to the point where it’s a 5.5 gen.
Doesn't really matter when the thing was designed, if nobody has built a more advanced airplane since...
The truth is that the progress of aerospace technology has slowed a bit since, say, the 1950s through 70s. The machines are just so complicated & expensive, it takes decades to develop and field new ones. And, another few decades to get the money's worth out of 'em..
IROS WHAT HAS ANY COUNTRY DONE WITHOUT AMERICAN TECT GIVEN BY THE SPYS IN OUR AMERICA
Can't wait for it to have laser beams and space faring engines in 100 years lolololol. I'm genuinely convinced it would be repurposed rather than retired for a century at least.
@@gamingrex2930 A few years ago......there was some talk that the gigawatt-range laser technology developed for the huge YAL-1 airborne laser platform, a converted 747, might be adaptable into a much smaller package...one that might conceivably even fit into the space left for the lift fan in the F-35B. There's already a shaft from the engine there...
The leap in technology apparently comes from moving toward a solid-state medium, a crystal essentially-not unlike exisiting ruby lasers, to produce the laser light. The YAL-1 laser needed a copper iodide gas to get the right wavelength, which took up essentially the whole fuselage of a 747.
F-22 : “Would you intercept me, cuz I’d intercept me”.
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The simple fact that Russia and China are both struggling in 2022 to compete with a plane that was designed in the late 80s, early 90s says a lot about American air power and ingenuity.
You know they have something better they are hiding.
@@zackbryan3195 Why hide, though? Reports of Chinese and Russian advancement in hypersonic missiles and railguns got the US wasting money playing catchup. Isn't getting the US to spread itself thin chasing dead ends better for its opponents?
@@jtho8937 they hide it so the enemy doesn't know what's coming, just like they hid the atomic bomb before they dropped it on japan
Money. Hard to beat that American 80s money.
@@zackbryan3195 I kinda doubt the russians have anything up their sleeves. Russian military doctrine has always been to wildly overstate their capabilities, whereas in the west, the philosophy is to understate capabilities.
The USA already has an operational 6th gen fighter according to Skunk works. Information on it is classified so little is known about it. F-22's recently seen with a reflective chrome looking reflective coating is likely just using the Raptor as a R&A platform for future 7th gen aircraft or current 6th gen aircraft. As far as comparing the Raptor with the Chinese J-20 and Su-57 those platforms have yet to fly with the jet engine's that are still painstakingly being resigned and retested and problems with both china and Russia's jet engine's has frustrated both to the point of using Flanker jet engine's which significantly lowers both aircrafts alleged performance which are based on what the aircraft could do with jet engine's that are conceptual on paper and don't work after assembled and doesn't look like they will be operational anytime soon.As far as maneuverability the F22 surpasses what the human body can handle. The computer keeps the pilot from performing maneuvers that would pull so many G's it would kill the pilot. Sadly unmanned drone's are the future of air superiority
Drones driven by AI certainly will eventually outperform anything flown by humans today
I am certain 6th gen fighters will be unmanned aircraft with kids on the ground flying them. Just like playing a video game.
The F22 may be 1970s or 80s technology. The fact that it is still a world beater speaks to the expense and time it takes to develop fighter aircraft in the modern age. I'll also add that the US is currently testing a next generation fighter just as the opposition is bringing their F22 competitors online.
Exactly us is always evolving while other super powers are trying to catch up! China just copies and steals.
It's an 80s concept, not 80s technology, the technology was developed during the 90s based on an 80s projection. However that really isn't weird for modern day fighters, it takes a long time and a lot of money to develop a modern fighter so they will invariably be based on concepts from decades past and since then we might have learned more or developed technology that enables us to come up with a better technology. The engineers in the 80s were looking at what they could expect to develop within the next decade but of course as that technology was developed new avenues opened up which were then subsequently used in the F-35 program.
What many people don’t realize is that todays F-22, is not yesterdays F-22, this flying freak show has the worlds most advanced avionics and radar on top of its stealth and maneuverability , it can not be beaten , even in close quarter dogfighting
You're right most people don't know that. But then so many pretend to be aeronautical engineers and physicists who knows more than the people who built the F22....
it literally has been beaten in close quarters / dogfighting tho?
The Rafale was able to trade blows in a dog fight.
But then again, an F22 should almost never get into a dog fight.
@@tjorven0110 Except they aren't allowed to fly it at its full capability, also whenever the F-22 has been in training exercises with other nations it always has external fuel tanks which lowers its maneuverability.
This is also assuming that Su-57 and J-20 are actually as stealthy as their makers claim to be. Russia also claimed it could take Ukraine
yup
The US also claimed it could defeat Taliban and protect Taiwan.
@@frankmerriwell8339 they made those tusken raiders hide in caves for decades and made billions off of the war. I see that as a win tbh
@@frankmerriwell8339 are you being ignorant on purpose or do you actually have an IQ below room temperature?
@@frankmerriwell8339 Yeah... They can protect taiwan. Even without US help there is absolutely no way china has the logistics nor tactics to invade taiwan due to its mountainous terrain and cities not to mention has very few landing areas
Pilots who have flown both F-22 and F-35 have said they would rather fly the F-35 because the situational awareness is far superior.
Pilots who have flown the F-35 call it "the pinguin", I'm not sure it is for its amazing flying capacities
You know I keep reading all these claims from people who say pilots say this and pilots say that, but never any actual evidence. I can only say one thing from an actual interview with Raptor aviators, And they say its the most awesome plane ever built. And its ability to literally see and kill the enemy without them ever knowing there was even a threat is real legitimate. The F35 as many have stated was designed as a workhorse fighter not air superiority, which apparently our 6th gen fighter will be designed for since they are using it to replace the F18s. So when it comes out you can compare it to all the air superiority stuff Russia and China are coming out with.
@@glennmonson5214 Oh, I agree with you, the F22 is good. Very good.
But as a fighter, the F35 is not. And if it's not a fighter, recon and bombing missions can be made as easily (if not better) with others planes for a fraction of the price.
@@jugel4533 Ya but youll noticed it was never meant to be an air superiority fighter, it was meant to be a workhorse and a general can do all platform. The Raptor was meant to be the air superiority fighter but when the costs came out so high and they realized new technologies were coming into play right away they canned making more because they new it was going to outdated before most would be built.
As a F22, can confirm I am the best fighter aircraft in the US air force
Idk the f-35 would give you a run for your money in overall usefulness.
You are biased just because you're a f22!
@pacpwr typhoon moment
If you’re talking a pure air superiority aircraft, absolutely!
Aaah comment section, where everyone is an expert
Don't you know everyone knows better than the US military, after all they read a single Wikipedia page
What's amazing is that it's still probably the top dog air superiority fighter... More than 20 years after its introduction.
Very true.
Keep in mind that was the point, though. It was a "money is no object" product, built for the doomsday scenario.
After the cold war ended, nobody who could afford to fight America had a need... because they are all allies.
Now China is trying to close the gap, and theyre getting closer and closer.
..... so the rumored 6th gen raptor replacement is on its way.
I quite liked the video. One very important aspect that was not discussed is pilot training and experience. I am quite confident US pilots get better training and more time in the air than their Russian or Chinese counterparts. You also mentioned that F-22 does not have an long range missile. Wikipedia disagrees. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-260_JATM The AIM-260 may also be operational in 2022.
it depends, is bombing civilian count as combat experience?
Id assume russians get better training. Im not sure about airforce but unlike America The Russians train with live ammo.
How do you know how much training China and Russian pilots get? How would you know that? You are assuming something you don't know, then broadcasting it like you do know...
Thanks, that's nice to know.
@@Moskal91 Unfortunately, I hear they don't have the money for flying time. The Chinese actually spend an few more hours in the air than the Americans do.
Raptor is getting the same helmet sight system as the F-35.
I think it’s gonna be a beast with that helmet tbh
@@Chrisxx-tv3xu Ultimately if you want the best air superiority fighter, it's got to be designed just as that. No more, no less. Multi-role aircraft do have their uses but ultimately the thing that does its own job best, whether that's air superiority, close air support, bombing, etc., is the thing designed for it. The USAF has gone for a completely multi-role philosophy with its fighter fleet. It's sunk so much into it that it's too late to turn back now. Yet ultimately a fighter's most important role is to dominate the skies. If you're only going to have one type of fighter it should do that the best that can be done because if you lose the skies nothing else your planes can do will matter. Let the fighters secure the skies and then bring other planes to do the CAS with big fuel tanks and large bomb, missile, and gun armaments. I'd love to see a sort of "flying fortress" CAS aircraft that's big and armed to the teeth just meant to stay over a battlefield and give anything unfriendly on the ground a world of hurt.
It's also getting a data link like the F-35
@@cattraknoff I think the multi role thing is being pushed due to stealth. Easier to hide and sneak behind the enemy instead of a dogfight, but idk air superiority is very important for any military
F35 was not meant to dog fight. More of a jamming and ground attack. It was build to work with the f22
Except dogfights almost never happen anymore
The dogfight is dead.
People shat on the f-22 before it was declassified, some claimed the su-27 was better if you would remember 2005 please.
When f-35 is declassified in a couple of years all the critics will shut up.
Because we know nothing about the f-35, the Russians su-57 is irrelevant purely because the advertisement of it as a dogfight proves they don’t know what they’re meant to be preparing to fight and are almost certainly going to be walloped.
It's funny that were asking if anything can take on something 30yrs old. Imagine what our government doesn't announce we have.
Nothing is even close. J20 isn't even a proven 5th generation Stealth fighter, The SU-57 only has 4 jets that work and one in operation, and the F35 costs $100 million less than the F-22 for a reason. By the time the J20 and SU-57 has a fully operational fleet, the US will be building it's 6th generation fighter. The old saying "you get what you pay for" applies here and nobody spends more on their airforce than the US.
To be fair there's more off the shelf technology in the F-35 whereas the F-22 had to develop technology . A lot of the cost reduction is directly proportional to Moore's law . Electronics have developed rapidly .
dude i think they already test flighted there 6thgen fighter. i was watching hella shit about it
It's important to note that the USAF min/maxes and doctrine intends to use a mixed bag of all aircraft in a near-peer conflict. For instance, F-35 will be used to identify targets deep in enemy territory, F-15EX will carry tons of missiles to launch at the targets, and F-22 will protect the F-35's/F-15's from any near-peer aircraft that make it through the onslaught.
Excellent point.
Nowadays, the plane doing the shooting need not be the plane doing the illumination or identification.
Before we retire the F22. We need a dogfight btw the Su-57 and the F22.
Are there even any properly operational Su-57s. russia has been unable to secure air superiority in Ukraine..
A US military fighter over 20 years old. No chance this is the best fighter available to the US. Has no one seen Stargate :)
Kamala Harris has yellow eyes..
Bottom line is when the United States decided to not sell the F-22 to any country thats how good it is.
Cue the vodka soaked "muh f117 was shot down once" comments
You're dealing with often hypothetical numbers on paper, but you forgot to mention a very important factor: Made in USA vs Made in China and Made in Russia.
Including the SU-57 is probably overly generous. Despite being "in service", the 57 could be generously called a prototype... And more accurately assessed as vaporware.
Unless an export customer bankrolls it, I doubt significant numbers of SU-57s will ever be built... Which means kinks will never be ironed out.
One (useless) way the F-22 utterly crushes its competition: LOOKS.
The F-22 is easily the best looking fighter aircraft of all time, IMO. Internal weapons bays make most fifth-gens gorgeous, but the 22 is in another league
THEY HAVE ONLY 16 SU-57's & ONLY 6 THAT ARE FLYING IN SERVICE THEY ARE AN EASY TARGET FOR THE F-22 FACT
I doubt we'd need f22's to take down the su57s
They barely have had them in service and I'm certain they have problems for being such young 5th gen planes barely existing
They are most likely on par with super hornets at best
@@SmartAss4123 I reckon the Su35 is a much better plane as it’s tried and tested, we have no idea if the F22 is as good as it’s made out to be. The ones built have defects on them and other issues that are only now coming out.
@@mitchjames9350 Bruh what. The F22 has over 150 planes and has been in use for over 20 years of service. They've never lost a fight in any actual combat since 9/11 where they were used in the joint coalition attacks.
They have been by and far tested and proven. The things you just said about the F22 are actually the literal description of the Su57 which not only doesnt have any combat experience in any theater ever. It also only exists in like 5 actual planes and they are riddled with defect designs and stealth complete failures. They are pretty planes but they are not a real match for combat. Let alone the Combat proven F22's which are 30 years old and still arguably better
At the end of the day both the F-22 and F-35 will work together in the battlefield and will most likely give US air superiority.
Except they have been talking about retiring the F-22 for a while now. Especially after the F-35 was introduced.
What is most likely to happen is that the F-35 gathers target information, and sends that information to the F-15EX which fires AMRAAMS that use datalink to guide to the targets. That's the current "battle plan". The F-35 is the scout, the F-15EX is the missile truck.
This is the same brainwashing that the US during the cold war for the young. However, I know that I always want a new "consumer" product. The F22 and F35 are old products... One thing America is also good at is repackaging old ideals like an Super Tom Cat on F22 body... How about taking Korea KAI 21 Bormae and putting swing wings... I seen it with a tail hook...PS...I also like to pimp out my Asian built car ...
@@RedTail1-1not really this is just a concept, currently EXs are slated for a homeland defense role. And as of now the plan is still to use F-35s and F-22s for air superiority then move the 4th gens in when the battle space is less contested. The introduction of CCAs in the next few years will shake it up a lot. Then ~2030 6th gens will come into play.
Over goat herders, sure, that's easy.
@@miriamweller812 both the Russians and the U.S. have had air superiority over goat hoarders so only time will tell
People need to understand these things take FOREVER to get to deployment. Just because something was created in the late 80's doesn't mean it's behind anything. You use the tech available at the time and 10-15 years later yeah, theoretically it's out of date because we can make something better but it would take 10 years to create and on and on we go.
When the video is 22 minutes long. Really makes you think
Obviously the SU57 isn't designed to be stealthy. Fun game: count the visible rivets on SU57s.
It probably was designed to be stealthy, it just failed at it in execution due to poor manufacturing.
@jim wrong. It is stealthy
@@andilamh2791 no, its not.
@@cartersharpnack yes it is. Dude you don"t kno what you're talking about
@@andilamh2791 no, it's not. It uses outdated jet engines that give off a large thermal signature.
Also note that exercises against other countries F-22 and F-35 are not allowed to be perform its full ability.
Why?
@@tbomb69 We do not want to risk exposure or media reception of certain technologies as others would LOVE to reverse engineer it.
Thanks
Your leaving out one of the biggest plus for the F-22, F-35, they’re designed to work as a team with sensor information being shared betwixt the two of them and the most important part, pilot training. All battlefield sensor data is being being streamed from one jet to all the other jets. That and the F-35 has a “beast mode” I don’t see any other jet with a “beast mode” setting
They also are sharing info with F15's new updated software as well. A team of 35's, 22's and 15's would be unbeatable.
So if one locks on to you, the others also could launch the homing missiles?
@@azralia4265
Sort of. It's more if one aircraft can detect you then the rest of their wing buddies can too. It's like trying to fight a have mind of large insects that can move at super sonic speeds, are nearly invisible, have independent operability and use computer powered technology to detect enemies hundreds of kilometres away. The missiles though are still limited by their own range.
With all the money the US has given out the past year. We could have 500 new F-22's. -Just saying.
think of everyone that had to starve to death to eat up the inflation that the us dollar has caused upon their lives to finance that. let that thought sink in when the us dollar collapses. WHEN.
So amazing that the f22 is such a future proof aircraft, should be building and modernizing those planes.
The F-22 is an amazing plane, although it will likely be overtaken by 2030 by the USAF's NGAD fighter program
it currently is being modernized
The US Air Force has the best planes perhaps because the US actually develop and builds our planes, thus understanding it’s merits and technologies, rather than steal the tech from others.
The greatest air superiority fighter is just an airshow toy when you have no microchips for your weapons.
of course your fighter is always the best in the eyes in the eyes of a brainwashed westerner.
Curious to see if a larger version of the YF-23 Black Window's airframe is used for a Gen 5 medium stealth bomber. We won't know until a decade from now.
I lioe the YF-23, but every aspect of that aircraft is dead. They would be better off making cheaper, automated AI drones for that purpose.
F-14. If Maverick flew it.
Imagine F-22 and Maverick
@@cannekill2158 Imagine Maverick flying f22, f35, Su57
Yep, maverick is practically an ace combat protagonist
@@jurajsintaj6644 would be even closer if he was mute and psychopathic.
So what I'm seeing here is, due to it's superior weapons and stealth but lack of defenses, the F22 is basically a Glass cannon plane killer.
It is part of an air force and plays a part in wider capabilities.
well the f-22 was made during the 1990s and 2000s so the technology at the time wouldn't allow for some of the tech found on the su-57 and j-20
also ground attack. Not as good as the F-35 with ground but it still can.
Keep in mind that these fighters are made for very different roles, in very different quantities, and with different strategies in mind. Comparing them accurately due to this is complicated
Ukrainian tractor shoots up in the air, disables its systems with EMP burst and tows it away to be used by Ukrainian military
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You would hope modern military aircraft are hardened against EMP!
I still wish the YF-23 was a production jet fighter.
F22 is just a wtf OP fighter.
F-35: get him.
F-22: bro same team.
F-22: It's treason then
@@Leorhit F-22: it's over F-35, I have the high ground.
@@bigballzmcdrawz2921 F-35, Su-57 and J-20: by orders of the International Fighter Mafia, your are under arrest.
The F-22 vs J-20 comparison on who would detect who first isn’t even remotely close to being accurate. You’re comparing the radar range of the J-20 like it would be going against a regular fighter. Just because the radar range is capable of detecting at a certain distance doesn’t mean it could detect a 22 at that range. When facing a 22 don’t forget that it has a radar signature equal to a bee. J-20 couldn't do anything about the 22 before it has already locked, fired and changed position.
And you make claims on Chinese plane which all stats are clasified.How can you even start to compare and say who is better when we don't know just about nothing of J20? Maybe only the power output range of their fighter engines is close to the truth...Stealth and sensor suite on J20 is completely unknown to us.Maybe is complete shit maybe it is on a league of his own as far we know it.
@@ivanlazarevic78 what😂😂
They've been pinged several times by India's Rafale, South Korea's F-16s and F-15s based in Japan. Taiwan tracks them from the ground all the time. Stay in your lane cause this discussion isn't for you😂
@@mythoughts5615 Only idiots would believe such news.
@@mythoughts5615 nice argument how about you back it up with a source?
@@doge3169 you got Google so put in the time and quit asking everyone to do it for you. This should get you started
IAF Su-30MKI radar detected and tracked the J-20. The Su-30MKI currently has the N011M passive electronically scanned array (PESA)
Taiwan has detected and tracked with the combination of mobile passive radars/ APG-83 Scalable Agile Beam Radars by magnifying the cross-section without emitting radiation making them difficult to find.
If you can't Google that I don't know what to tell ya
F22 Have 4 updates.... i think the lastest version is diferent from the video... Thanks i really enjoy these channel
North Korean mig 19 is the best Stealth plane ever.
So stealthy you can’t even see it flying. And no that isn’t because it crashes due to poor maintenance - is Glorious Leaders secret stealth upgrades!
Oh my finally someone who knows their planes 😉
@@daemonofdecay for the glorious leader that invented the 🍔
You can tell I was kidding, it's hot garbage, like everything else in their country
Damn it's vision started in the 80's. Got to live a short and brilliant life, and is going to be the standard for all military jets to come. Expensive but arguably worth every penny. And pretty as hell to boot.
The f22 upgrades will include similar helmets displays as the f35
The fact is the U.S has more trained and vetted air pilots and soldiers ....look at Ukraine ....no where near trained as well as U.S soldiers and they are destroying a country(russia) that's suppose to be as advanced as the U.S
Yes, it is, but russia destroys US and ukranian soldiers 50 times more effective. Meet the language of facts
😁
Let's at least keep some into museums because they're very slick looking.
I think we can now safely say… nope
Russia is a paper super power,they only have nukes,the army is shit
@@singleplayerreview3238 Russia's military capabilities were astronomically overhyped.
Upgrade all the Raptors to King Raptors with a defensive laser, among other additions, and they'll be good.
Giving me CnC Generals flashbacks.
@8:45 "US planes currently have no similar missile options."
Russia plans to use the K-77 long range air-to-air missile for the Su-57 and it has a range of around 180-220nm. The R-37M wouldn't fit into the internal weapons bay of the Su-57 but the K-77 is designed to do so.
The US AIM-260 JATM has been in active development for some time and should be operational in 2023 or 2024. The AIM-260 has the same length but likely a larger diameter than the older AIM-120D it is replacing so it will fit within the F-22 and F-35 internal bays. The specs are still classified but there are estimates it will have around 180 nm of range and may use a dual-pulse rocket motor similar to the Chinese PL-15.
isnt 180 nm an incredibly short range?
not even 1 mm?
@@NooobLP I assume you are being sarcastic and making a joke but one can never tell so. "A nautical mile (NM or nm) is the official unit of measurement used by all countries for both sea and air navigation. "
@@flipadavis yeah i know. but its stupid, like the imperial system in general, and needs an overhaul.
so instead i choose to see "nm" as nanometer.
The F-22’s radar cross section is so small those other planes won’t even know it’s there before the Raptor looses all of its missiles and RTB’s to re arm. The F-35 was designed to be something like a front line soldier while the F-22 is more like a sniper. After seeing how abysmal Russian air defense is with convention last generation planes we have nothing to worry about. The Russian bear turned out to be a paper tiger.
Sucks that it can only hold 2 fox ii's if it wants to maintain it's stealth and not rely on external weapon pods
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F35 was meant to be a silent assassin/sniper. F22 was meant to be a sniper/ninja that could to close quarters fights and long distance BVR engagements. I think that F35 is more optimized in modern air combat, because it has the best IR sensors and jammers, so it can in most situations engage the enemy first, or send the data to another plane to keep it's stealth.
@@kuolevijyrkinen4675 I agree but if the f22 got a tech upgrade, it could destroy anything without them even seeing it
Crazy when you consider f22 is by far the stealthiest of the group but it’s stealth was still FAR behind the YF23. If YF23 was in service it would be the equivalent of a ufo compared to these other fighters.
Really? I haven't heard about that, could you send an article/source on that becaue if so that makes me love the YF-23 even more
The technologies are astounding
ALL of them
Parts from the YF23 program were just got sold off to Japan in order to help them develop a there own 5th gen fighter… the Yf23 was the Northrop Grumman fighter that was put in competition while companies fought for the contract for Americans air tactical fighter .. it only lost because it couldn’t handle as many missiles while in stealth and the b-2 ran over cost and behind Time so the American government went with Lockheed
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It lost because Sen Sam Nunn from Georgia wanted the F-22 to be built in his state.
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just his opinion.
when you realise a US aircraft from 1997 is still better than the newest russian and chinese tech, you start to realise how backwards their militaries are.
Or how obscenely bloated and overfunded the US military is- and for all that hardware, still haven't won a war in any meaningful sense since 1945
Still America's 4 billion dollar ship sunked after serving for few months whereas,moskova served for more then 50 years 😂
And besides commies barely have a handful of those flying, specially the Russians that only show them in parades
dont read the replies theyre angry russian bots 🤪
@@heldenopfern5605 What 4 billion warship do you speak of?
For Air Superiority and Interception, it's hard to say, but the F22 is slowly being phased out as its no longer holding the standards the air force wants it at. For most other purposes like evasion, stealth, and just amount of technology invested i'd give it to the 35.
WITH THE ;UPGRADES THE F22 IS STILL THE BEST BAR NONE
There is only one air superiority plane shown here, the F-22. The F-35 is a jack of all trades, the J-20 is meant to go after refuelers and ewacs, not dogfight, and the russians have a whopping 12 SU-57s. Not to mention the systems built around the F-22 and F-35 are unparalleled in comparison to the J-20s and SU-35s. We won't even get into training. It would be no contest.
Also, the F-35 doesnt need to point its nose at its target. It can fire from any direction, as the pilot has sensors that sees through the airframe.
video about f22 in 2022 longs 22 minutes. Nice
The YF 23 was sexy AF, so sad that never got made
Yup, my company did the FLIR on it, which was moved across to the 22, even though that was not supposed to happen with the way the contract for the competition was written. I actually was working on another IRST system in the same lab and building that they were. We had a model sitting on the table, and it really was a nice looking rig. I'm guessing, but I think the capabilities (perceived anyway) of each company to produce had a significant impact on the choice. It may have lost anyway, but that was my thought then.
Apparently an F-14 and F-18 can
You mean in the new top gun? Those enemy planes were su-57s.
Lockheed Skunkworks already has a 6th generation fighter flying, both manned and autonomous, its a game changer, the British Tempest is another 6th generation fighter that will shock Russia and China
The SU-57 has a cooler paint job, but the angular thrust vectoring bits on the F-22 makes up for it.
Yep, the YF-23 Grey Ghost and Black Widow ;)
it can take on a su 57 and a j20 at the same time, and do circles around an s 400.
Hahahaha
Su57 is like the only one who can dogfight the f22 but its still very hard for it to win. Sure f22 may not be a good rifleman but I’m hella sure that it is a sniper with aimbot, what can you possibly do when you barely can even reach the raptor before being shot down by it nothing!
Short answer: NO. Long answer: no, nothing can match F-22.
Archy11102 only the SPY'S in out GOVERNMENT will give away the f-22 INFO & the GOVERNMENT WHICH LETS OUR ENEMY STAY IN OUR GOVERNMENT IS THE BLAME FOR ANY INFO. ABOUT OUR MILITARY PROVE ME WRONG
No one knows if the F22 lives up to the hype.
short answer: no
long answer: definetly not
Official answer: [classified]
Indian's stealth fighter jet is so stealth that nobody on the planet have ever saw or heard of it damn..
Soon this could become a grim reality for enemy fighters as long as our government doesnt pull the program
We don't make one lol 😂
@@breezemont1161 That's the joke
@@breezemont1161 That's the joke
@@breezemont1161 That's the joke
A 22 minute long video about The F-22 posted in the year 2022
Why is there a lot of 22's
The su 57 is so stealthy it’s only ever been seen in magazines
AHHHHHHH ha ha ha ha ha those Russians just better not put that hunk of shit in the sky with F-22's or F-35's up there, shit even the F-15 will eat it for breakfast. . . .I am pretty confident F-15 will hold it's own
so it was a magazine that took all does ukranian air fields out ..... i see 0.0
@@asatechnics8363 unfortunately, the magazine was shredded =(
@@alicorn3924 were did you saw that? 0.o are you saying that the ukranians shoot down a su-57? 0.o with what? slingshots? 0.o
@@anthonysaponaro6318 You then will be very very surprised. The SU 57 is now the dominant air superiority platform in the entire world. The only advantage that the USA now hold is numerical superiority. That is not a good position to be in. That area is also rapidly changing as the SU 57 is now in full production.
Keep in mind that the F-35 was not designed as an air superiority fighter. It uses its super advanced systems to see everything then direct friendlies. It is designed to work alongside the F-22.
F35 is the beast for decades to come. Actually in some aspects it has more powerful and potent radar than F22.
Like it takes its namesake, it is meant to be a multi-role first, fighter second.
This is true, people look at the raw numbers of speed and agility and immediately think it's useless. They don't often take things into account like sensors and sensor fusion, stealth, and radar technology. The F-35 is a lethal fighter in a huge variety of combat missions, but most of its best capabilities are either classified or not things that translate well to the general public.
That's not what many F-35 customers think. It is the backbone of many air forces around the world, a multirole aircraft that is supposed to fill the air superiority role among others.
@@chefchaudard3580 It fills that role by directing air superiority fighters to the targets. The F-22s can have their radars off making them invisible to the RWR of the enemy planes.
The thing is, the US often doesn’t give the max capabilities of their aircraft, but the Russians often over advertise theirs.
You take the short bus
@@specialman6004 I mean current events are proving this to be a correct statement. All those super fancy ERA that make their tanks completely immune to “all” ATGM are getting royally fisted by a missiles designed in the 80’s. Add javailins and Nlaws. Russia has now lost 160 tanks, 116 AFV’s and 197 IFV’s that are distorts and many more damaged.
Do you have the links where they publish the specs
The F-22 is easily the sexiest plane ever made. I know that's a bold statement, but I really just look at it and think "yeah, that's perfect"
yes
F15 aint that hard on the eyes either...
Definitely. It looks like a sleek beast, not a gangly wasp or a swollen bumblebee.
i do actually really like how the Su-57 looks but i'm going to have to agree with you, although the f-35 does look better from direct side on angles to me
edit: oh and the MiG-25 is pretty good looking too
For real. I've seen them IRL and it was love at first sight. They are a lot bigger in person than I expected.
Id say the f35 stacks up pretty well against these three air superiority fighters, seeing how it itself is supposed to serve as a multi-role one.
The f35 is a foundation aircraft designed to do the large scale grunt work of all the Branches of the US military and also to help international partners.
Even how it stacks up in maneuverability, payload, range, and speed is incredible being a much smaller single engine aircraft. Very interested into seeing what sort of batshit designs we get out of NGAD with all the knowledge gained from making F35 F22 and 30 years of advancements
The most impressive part is probably the capabilities it has compared to it's weight, low weight generally translates to lower costs across the board and it really compares nicely to the F-16 in that department.
@@hedgehog3180 Did you just use the term "lower costs" in a sentence about F-35? 😂
@@LondonSteveLee believe it or not, it's relatively cheap compared too other 5th gen fighters, such as the other 3 mentioned in the video
That's why it can be mass produced in the thousands
Tbh none of this is particularly important. Air to air combat isn’t a duel. The supporting system is much more important than single plane performance.
Correct.
Pretty sure the NATO support system is pretty robust
Funny enough, a lot of the F-22 capabilities are still unknown. It is one of the very few planes the US does not export. Also, during international training operations, the pilots of the F-22 dumb down their training and the plane's capabilities. So a lot of what is considered known intel on the F-22 may be misdirection.
Damn, i always thought f 35 was the best, i thought it was in accending order
@@ROTHSTEIN01 The F35 is supposed to be more multi role. Not comparable. The F22 is a faaaar better fighter jet, the F35 is an attack jet with the ability to defend itself.
@@ROTHSTEIN01 The F35 is supposed to be more multi role. Not comparable. The F22 is a faaaar better fighter jet, the F35 is an attack jet with the ability to defend itself.
@@xeno07_max20 so f 22 is only for destroying other aircrafts?
nah your comment is full of shit. its just all bravado
In all fairness, it's not Binkov's fault Russia's were capabilities were astronomically over-hyped.
Ace Combat games have put the F-22 on its cover more than any other plane. Clearly that makes it superior to any of its peers.
superior in terms of sexy looks absolutely
After this past week, I have major doubts in the capabilities of Russia and their equipment.
So far they only used old equipment. We have yet to see T-14s and SU-37s on the front.
@@vallttdysney7749 The Su-37 was a technology demonstrator so we'll never see it.
@@vallttdysney7749 they don't have T-14s operational, they only have prototypes. Russia is not capable of mass producing, especially now with zero resources.
I could not agree with you more
@@vallttdysney7749 T-72B3, BUK missile launcher systems, and Pantsir S1 are by no means an old equipment.
T-14 Armata and Su-37s are both not in mass production and definitely will not participate in the conflict.
The US has already started fitting helmet mounted heads up displays in the F-22 as well as upgrading its laser and infrared defense systems. They are also updating its targeting systems and radar absorbing coatings in the next couple of years not that those upgrades are necessary as it is one of the best stealth aircraft in the world and a targeting system effective out to 65 miles with missiles capable of taking targets at that range. The USAF counts it a failure on the pilots part if visual contact is made when not pre-planed.
As of last summer, there was only 1 operational su-57. The other one crashed. Meanwhile the f-22 already stopped production 10 yrs ago. These comparisons are fun but not realistic
Especially now, given the recent events.
The US is already working on a 6th generation fighter. Russia and China will always be a step behind, they don't spend $ on research and development like the US does. Realistically Russia won't have a full fleet of Su-57 until 2028, 23 years after the F-22 was introduced.
It's gotta suck to be rolling out fighters in 2022 not as good as an American fighter that's 25 years older.
you're making it seem like they were designed in 2020
@@moussakaii529 If we are going to look at the time they were designed, the F-22 was designed in the early 1980s.
So what we have is a Russian prototype of a plane intended to take on an American fighter designed about 40 years ago.
The first F-22s came rolling off the production line about 1997.
And this Russian 4th generation fighter is STILL inferior!
It has always been that way.
Russian fighters never live up to the hype.
You can get detailed numbers on air-to-air combat for all fighter planes used today.
Here are won-loss records.
See if you notice a trend:
F-4 ............ 306 - 106
F-14 .......... 135 - 4
F-15 .......... 103 - 0
F-16 ............ 76 - 1
F-18 .............. 2 - 1
MiG-21 ....... 240 - 501
MiG-23 ......... 25 - 102
MiG-25 ........... 8 - 8
MiG-29 ........... 6 - 18
SU-27 ............. 6 - 0
By the way, 2 of those MiG-25 victories were against unarmed Cessna propeller-driven airplanes shot down by the Cuban air force.
I don't think there will be a fighter to challenge it maybe until the end of the decade. Despite it's age the F22 is just such a high bar that everyone has been playing catch up. It really is a majestic bird, even the F35 doesn't fly overhead with the same authority. I like the Su57 but it looks like too little too late.
"Not as good" is a metric based on how well a piece of hardware works in relation to the others in an army
@@gabrieleporru4443 One could use the phrase in that way, or one could use it the way I did - which is to refer to Russian crap being rolled out now.
That's what makes it suck. .................. Glad I could clarify.
Russian fighters are always overhyped and do not have the performance in combat to match the hype, like the air-to-air combat won-loss record of 135 - 4 for the F-14; the 103 - 0 record of the F-15 or the 76 - 1 record of the F-16.
That's why air forces equipped with modern U.S. fighters bomb the shit out of targets on the surface belonging to nations foolish enough to buy Russian fighters.
Russian fighters are good for one thing - - - ejection seat testing.
They provide a LOT of data on how well their ejection seats work.
Considering the raptor was design in the 80s and was to start production in the 90s, and is only now starting to have its sun set, shows what an engineering marvel this was.
Wtf ...f22 in 2022
Video length 22 minutes
And i am currently watching at time 22:22
I live in india ...you can cross verify ...lol
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American tech is by far superior to its competitors, but the pilots abilities also are.
After the Ukraine war started and seeing that Russia still doesn't have air superiority yet, and their overall operations halted... I'll take what Russia says about their equipment with a grain of salt. How are they operating in contested airspace with footage of drones taking out their AA systems this far in.... Ukraine is right on their border, they should have made lightwork of their airforce and air defense systems.
In reality, it isn't like the U.S. waited six months to properly suppress Iraq's air force or that it took 44 days to capture the country when they had the advantage of air superiority
the russians also dont value air power the same way the west does. they prefer ground and sea operations. Effective air missions, especially ground support missions require a lot of real time communication from the boots on the ground and the russians just dont have that capabilty
@@thesherbet hows that working out for them?
take it with the entire dead sea
@@thesherbet
Even if they dont value air power like US, we are believed that Russians have their touted Integrated Air Defense system which includes short range, medium range and long range AA to cover each other, much like layered armour.
But their anti aircraft performance in Ukraine is just outright terrible.
Guess you will need to evaluate MIG-21s against it, because that's the future of the rssn airforce now 😂😂
why?
@@parallax9084 Ukraine’s wrecking any of the other jets that the Russians are utilizing.
@@turbochad69 i see, but ukraine isnt wrecking russian jets, its all just propaganda
@@parallax9084 ukraine
@@parallax9084 Bruh LMAO
We have to remember the F22 was designed during a time when the US thought the Soviet Union had a lot of heavy bombers. So the F22 was designed to shoot those and their escorts before they could see it. The world it was born in was different than what its designers thought was going to be.
Stealth isn't as big a factor in an interceptor...The ATF's real purpose seemed to be more offensive in nature. It was meant, and is still meant, to neutralize an enemy's air defences--in his own territory behind the lines--to allow friendly air forces to operate. Its main targets were always fighters and SAMs, and the design emphasis was always on low-observability, coupled with range and sustained speed & altitude..and also the advanced maneuvering power to still handle any known or projected fighter in ACM..
It's a logical extension of the concept behind the F-15, and even the publicity term used in the program, 'air dominance,' sounds like an extension of the F-15's 'air superiority'...
F-22 is clearly the King of the fighters for air superiority.
F-35 is a multi role fighter rather than air superiority, but has the best situational awareness and targeting.
J-20 is a missile truck, good for BVR and exists in significant numbers.
SU-57 is a bluff and boast - there’s a reason India bailed on the project. If they were truly so dominant, Russia would have air superiority over Ukraine.
The reason india bailed is because russia would have given them a cheaper su 57
You are like 5 IQ.
Do you have seen squadrons of ukraine jets or helicopter in the counteroffensice? No, cause they dont have that much anymore - cause russia destroyed pretty much everything in ukraine.
USA also didnt have air dominance in jugoslawia.
Su-57 is not a bluff or boast.
It is bluff and boast not because it sucks (I don't know why people keep making that statement) but because it doesn't exist in large numbers.
@@waldemar31293 And yet there's no russian planes over ukraine. If their jets were any good they could do SEAD, but they can't, even with a 20 to 1 numerical advantage.
@@Joesolo13uhh maybe they don’t want to risk it?😂
Why risk dozens of aircraft performing sead missions? That’s not very bright. They already have air superiority on the front so having air superiority over all of Ukraine would not be useful unless you wanna carpet bomb the country like the US normally does.
F22 is gorgeous 😍
That's absolutely true 👍. USA 🇺🇸 .I love the USA 🇺🇸 💜 ❤
I was out at Edwards AFB back in the day when they were testing both the YF-22 and the YF-23. I was actually working on the B-1 test program at that time but got to see both of these platforms as they were being tested. I believe if anything, US Military Specs are more likely to be under-reported as compared to actual operational combat capabilities. I think the Russians and the Chinese are likely to over-report their capabilities.
The SU57 has visible external rivets. It's about as stealthy as the Goodyear blimp.
The weapons bay also has a HUGE gap between the doors. One door is like super off angle. Russia is the WORST at manufacturing. They have no economy, no infrastructure, no production capability. There's a reason that they haven't produced a single version of the SU-57 that meets the specs they claim of the aircraft. They built 12 prototypes, then 5 test/airshow models. The very first production aircraft crashed after it malfunctioned lmao. They've built 3 production models that are "allegedly" seeing combat. That's 21 aircraft in over 13 years, it first "flew" in 2010.
The F-35 started production in 2006. You know how many have been built?... 935. Nine Hundred and Thirty Five!!! The F-22 was in production for 15 years, number built? 187.
Russia sucks. They are nothing but a paper tiger and no one has anything to fear from the fallen giant. They've been slowly dying since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and have been trying to keep up the public façade making the world believe they were still the Cold War superpower they once were. Fooling everyone into fearing them when in reality they were crippled and losing more and more strength.
I'm petty sure that was a prototype
@@ihavenoideas5844 No. That is the actual jet.
I mean, every SU-57 is prototype
@@RedTail1-1i hope they're atleast paying you propaganda bots lmao
It’s honestly so sad to me the F-22 is by far the best yet will be the first of these planes to retire. Despite being absolutely fantastic the raptor doesn’t fit into the new US military doctrine
They honestly didn't need to make it really yes its amazing but it's never been used and is really air show jet but it has given its 6th gen replacement good data to go on
By far the best? Bit of a stretch.
It turned out to be just too expensive. Not only to buy but to keep running. Per hour flight costs soared way above any previous estimates. On top of all that it's not easily upgradeable and future modernization will be hideously expensive as well. So they figured it's probably better to have three F-35s available for the same cost as one F-22.
NGAD my dude lol