Stealth Vs Hypersonic | F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 Felon | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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  • Опубликовано: 26 май 2023
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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +89

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    • @MrComplainer
      @MrComplainer Год назад +12

      F35 Vs SU57 BVR and Merge!
      Day75:

  • @paddythomas2628
    @paddythomas2628 Год назад +630

    The missile from the splashed f22 launching like...
    “My name is The Missile Guidance system... fox 3 to a murdered pilot, amram to a murdered Raptor; and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”

    • @surfmanfish
      @surfmanfish Год назад +32

      Isn't there a twitter account that writes about dogfights from the view of the missile guidance system?

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 Год назад +793

    That last merge was dramatic--two gunsligers spitting their last curse without losing the cigar stub. Loved it.

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 Год назад +663

    Love seeing the AMRAAM launch as the F-22 is literally disintegrating, almost like a scene out of TGM.

    • @josebrown5961
      @josebrown5961 Год назад +9

      Yes that was the coolest thing I have ever seen on here!
      I’m an old guy. I used to play the really old game F22 Raptor. That was years before the plane went public. The Raptor in the game had 4 sidewinders and 4 Fox 3s.
      Now I am not a sim player but I enjoy seeing how much the thing has evolved.

    • @Und3rpr3ssur3_Gaming
      @Und3rpr3ssur3_Gaming Год назад +8

      If it had landed a hit and splashed the SU-57 it would have been legendary.

    • @Mikogusu
      @Mikogusu Год назад +7

      Yeah Maverick should actually have died lol.

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 Год назад +254

    These two aircraft are almost too valuable to risk losing one fighting each other.

  • @Gobzon
    @Gobzon Год назад +234

    The ending is just wow. If there's Top Gun 3 in the works, they should take this fight as pre-vis.

  • @vipondiu
    @vipondiu Год назад +62

    9:11 the "dead-man granade" post-mortem missile shot is so epic

  • @charlie15627
    @charlie15627 Год назад +196

    It really seems to be more of a question of pilot's skill and luck, when it comes to comparable aircraft.

    • @Imugi007
      @Imugi007 Год назад +83

      They aren't really comparable in real life, though. The Raptor would see the Felon way before the Felon sees the Raptor. The more optimistic estimates predict the RCS of the Felon is twice the size of an F-35. And that's the optimistic estimates. It's probably bigger than that.

  • @R1-Flo
    @R1-Flo Год назад +113

    Hands down, TOXIC definitely makes you work the hardest for a kill in any aircraft scenario !! Well executed on both ends! Great vid!!

  • @usamashakeel1397
    @usamashakeel1397 Год назад +43

    That last engagement was so epic. It gave me goodbumps!

  • @Matisaro
    @Matisaro Год назад +50

    LOVED LOVED LOVED the 3rd person ending first edit on round 3, loved how we saw what happened from outside first, not what happened then a 3rd person replay, loved the cinematic feel!

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 Год назад +117

    This was a really cool fight. Not much else to say, just the combination of tactics, the use of the environment, and the fact it's these two planes made for a interesting scenario.

  • @GrantvsMaximvs
    @GrantvsMaximvs Год назад +81

    Love it when you work the minidocs into the introduction. Great footage and editing. Onward and Upward.
    (Not gonna lie, GS, i would like to see you revisit the Apache.)

  • @abckirov1929
    @abckirov1929 Год назад +3

    12:15 "I never saw him" The F-22s creed.

  • @salmanGT4
    @salmanGT4 Год назад +59

    So nice to see you in a SU-57 again. You should do it more often.

  • @mlrd6622
    @mlrd6622 Год назад +28

    Been wanting to see you in the Su-57 for ages. Glad this video is finally here :)

  • @Of_Your_Volition
    @Of_Your_Volition Год назад +33

    Excited for this stealth vs stealth and nice explanation of each aircraft in the beginning

  • @artemlitvinenko1328
    @artemlitvinenko1328 Год назад +56

    Fifth gen fights never get old! Keep up the good work GS!

  • @thatoneraotguy2590
    @thatoneraotguy2590 Год назад +23

    Concerning the whole stealth and radars discussion: me and my friend have actually been thinking quite a lot about it, and we've come to the conclusion that stealth will likely evolve faster then radars at first, which means that dogfight is going to return being a thing, but after this stealth growth, since radar technology has much more potential for improvement, things will get back to the BVR, but in a more advanced way (for example we might see airborne radars being able to look over the horizon, since we already have that technology on some ground radars, and we will also probably get back to unfiltered-ish radars, as in without pulse doppler, because radars will get just so precise that ground clutter won't be a problem anymore, and AIs will probably be able to sort out things like countermeasures and such too)

  • @larrylong4829
    @larrylong4829 Год назад +6

    proving once again... "it's less the plane and more the pilot". Well done! Nice Vid.

  • @KevinUrbanRescueRanch
    @KevinUrbanRescueRanch Год назад +54

    I love your stealth aircraft dogfight videos. The technology they carry is just incredible. Keep up the great work!

  • @gamingposition9869
    @gamingposition9869 Год назад +14

    If there is anything i learned from this video, and the other one; it is that you are one hell of pilot, the aircratf doesn’t matter much, especially these 5th gen fighters.
    Keep up!

  • @freakshow1038
    @freakshow1038 9 месяцев назад +3

    Imagine getting shot down, ejecting and hearing that deafening howl of an SU 57 flying by you.

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 Год назад +2

    15:54 Why was the music kicking in here super hype

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml Год назад +10

    Supercruise is supersonic speeds WITHOUT afterburners. That's pretty damn amazing and it never really gets talked about.
    Military helicopter engine mechanic here so I might be a little bias..... LOL

  • @jackbenny5108
    @jackbenny5108 Год назад +2

    boss fight music, hell yeah 15:54

  • @Chooie6
    @Chooie6 Год назад +16

    isnt that him at 7:38? when you zoom in there is a moving black dot just above the horizon near the peak to the right of center of the view, i think you might have seen that as a missile you fired but after seeing where he actually was i think that was him. anyway seems like you are once again proving its less about the plane and more about the pilot nice video!

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_5546 Год назад +5

    As the sword gets sharper, the shield gets thicker. I believe you're right about the cat and mouse of radar vs stealth.

  • @planelander
    @planelander Год назад +3

    God the talon is so sexy too. Wish we were at peace and had war games instead of real wars.

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 Год назад +40

    The Felon is a gorgeous aircraft.

  • @sonofguns1016
    @sonofguns1016 Год назад +6

    That was EPIC! Lol from the first missile to the last merge, very well played by both pilots

  • @MichaelTheRead
    @MichaelTheRead 11 месяцев назад +2

    9:00 I think he saw the missile coming and knew he was toast, and deliberately moved into a position where he'd be able to fire off at least one missile before losing total control of the craft.
    "If I go down, I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME!"
    He just barely managed to jettison and get his chute open in time. I imagine that explosion cooked him pretty good.

  • @PepperDog76
    @PepperDog76 Год назад +17

    Love all your stuff but I especially enjoy these docu-videos. Keep it up, brother. You’re one of the best content creators in the space. Any chance we’ll see some more WWI stuff soon?

  • @dgfgts
    @dgfgts Год назад +2

    The Raptor is a sexy beasty, looks like it's straight from Halo. The Felon on the other hand looks more like a fat penguin.

  • @mort6598
    @mort6598 Год назад +2

    the afterburner on the felon looks so good

  • @sinine
    @sinine Год назад +8

    That last round was a major thrill. Edge of my seat stuff.

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 Год назад +2

    Dude we HAVE to see meteor F35 vs Su57. We’ve had that matchup coming a long time.

  • @NilofarCOD
    @NilofarCOD Год назад +6

    15:25 This is one the best sequence of the channel 💥

  • @gnarrrrrrrrrrrr
    @gnarrrrrrrrrrrr Год назад +1

    that last bit of action cinematography was sick

  • @cszabo8899
    @cszabo8899 Год назад +10

    Great effort by the F-22 pilot, and he dished out a little payback too.

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar Год назад +12

    F-22 when it sees an unsuspecting felon 😈

  • @fuciguma2886
    @fuciguma2886 Год назад +24

    74 su57s? I am sorry but where?

  • @heyidiot
    @heyidiot Год назад +2

    _"I don't see him..."_ That's the plan, baby! *BOOM!*

  • @jumax23
    @jumax23 Год назад +2

    I’m waiting for f-22 and the harrier dog fight

  • @vandasaragosa
    @vandasaragosa Год назад +2

    I can not say this is. The best gaming channel because I don't know every gaming channel that exist outta there, but it is safe to say this is my favorite gaming channel ... Awesome intro I love it

  • @mincluM
    @mincluM Год назад +8

    Great to see another one of these, a great matchup.

  • @Micherson
    @Micherson Год назад +13

    Stealth and radar will both improve . As time goes .

  • @TymaDem
    @TymaDem Год назад +2

    9:20 launching a missile after being shot is freaky

  • @Alex-jd8if
    @Alex-jd8if Год назад +1

    07:38 when u say "you can see the missile there" you can also see the f22 down low :D

  • @JohnZsAviation
    @JohnZsAviation Год назад +9

    Nice I like the F-22 in my opinion a Great jet.

  • @PaulGAckerman
    @PaulGAckerman Год назад +2

    Wow! In Round 1 the F-22 shot that missile at the last possible second.

  • @bryndrew
    @bryndrew Год назад +1

    I loved that short range BVR to the merge format!

  • @paddythomas2628
    @paddythomas2628 Год назад +5

    Always a good day when GS uploads! What about a F15 STOL/MFD vs SU57 dogfight?

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro Год назад +2

    When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

  • @AB-td5oo
    @AB-td5oo Год назад +1

    Maan when merged the felon flairing the sky looked So epic

  • @ricbish4122
    @ricbish4122 Год назад

    Nice one! That was a lot of fun to watch. I didn’t think it would be when I saw the title, but really interesting to see how it all came together! Nice job!

  • @slobodandjordjevic381
    @slobodandjordjevic381 Год назад

    OMg that ending sequence!!! More of that please

  • @Cap1talNumbers
    @Cap1talNumbers Год назад +2

    Now THIS is a matchup!

  • @finnianp8250
    @finnianp8250 Год назад +1

    Nearly 500k now GS, you deserve a Mil by now!

  • @aleksalukovic4180
    @aleksalukovic4180 Год назад

    That last merge, so thrilling!

  • @rafasocha882
    @rafasocha882 Год назад +1

    i fu... love this thing !!! thats THE tchnology that will keep peace around the world !

  • @user-er1dh1nu9x
    @user-er1dh1nu9x Год назад +2

    9:12 just like death hand!

  • @SeaDemon25
    @SeaDemon25 Год назад

    that last fight was awesome. great video thx

  • @sdghomero
    @sdghomero Год назад

    That last engagement was LIT!

  • @RongDuck
    @RongDuck Год назад

    Best one yet. Always nice to see Longshot in the mix.

  • @feruser2489
    @feruser2489 Год назад

    This is the 4th time I watch this, please do more of these, you are an amazing pilot

  • @ltjjenkins
    @ltjjenkins Год назад

    Gotta love dude getting missle off with his last dying breath. Respect.

  • @mikemontgomery2654
    @mikemontgomery2654 Год назад

    Loved the battle of wits. The merge at the end was awesome.

  • @erichk733
    @erichk733 Год назад +1

    7:38 you can see the 22 just over the lower mountain low to the ground I think

  • @sovieticodiabetico6874
    @sovieticodiabetico6874 11 месяцев назад +2

    it truly is the pilot, not the plane

  • @tom23rd
    @tom23rd Год назад +1

    That was great, even considering the normal level of GS awesomeness. Hell yes

  • @Mister.Snake65
    @Mister.Snake65 Год назад +2

    Video suggestion: 3 saab 35 draken vs 1 su-57

  • @carleighdeguzman4200
    @carleighdeguzman4200 Год назад +1

    Round 1 the pilot survived. He was aboard the AMRAAM.

  • @derekwright3239
    @derekwright3239 Год назад +3

    GS can you put together a DCS style Movie I think it would be cool to see?
    Love the quality of work you do on here!!!

  • @sleepingninjaquiettime
    @sleepingninjaquiettime Год назад

    We need more of these in different scenarios.

  • @mage3690
    @mage3690 Год назад +1

    The thing is, radars are going to be better and better, and at some point those radars are going to negate stealth, but stealth (or "low observability") will never truly die. In a world where lasers and decoys are getting better and better, you want those lasers to be able to dazzle the radars at least to the point that they can't see your aircraft, which will work much better with low observable aircraft, and you also want the decoys to be a larger return than your aircraft. It goes without saying that smaller decoys are generally cheaper decoys, and you can carry more of them, although they will also be more susceptible to lasers as a result. At some point you're going to fill the sky with so much clutter that radars and cameras (because why restrict your sensor platforms to just one radiation band?) won't be much good outside of knife-fighting range, and BFM becomes a thing again. Probably more often with AI drones doing BFM against other AI drones, because why put your manned aircraft in the line of fire? Anti-radiation missiles and sensor fusion will be a basic requirement in this hypothetical environment, but ARMs are traditionally large, expensive beasts, and sensor fusion is a team effort, so definitely no more knights of the sky getting into 1v1 BFM, unfortunately. In this hypothetical, it will happen on accident, though; so I think foregoing maneuverability in fighter aircraft will be a mistake.

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton Год назад

    Very very nice flying GS. You beat him with pure smarts.

  • @cloudforest4087
    @cloudforest4087 Год назад

    Fantastic last merge.

  • @muhammadsaadaslam4879
    @muhammadsaadaslam4879 Год назад

    bro the last round is literally very fantastic the way u both tried to hide and changes the side😍😍

  • @davedeville6540
    @davedeville6540 Год назад

    Awesome showdown, loved it!

  • @samuelmorton4422
    @samuelmorton4422 Год назад

    Last scene was like a movie!

  • @Mysucculentchinesemeal
    @Mysucculentchinesemeal Год назад

    You gave him the old “here, hold this.”

  • @benjaminspencer6507
    @benjaminspencer6507 Год назад

    I love dogfights, From WWI to the present. It shows that man is the key!!

  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi Год назад

    Oh man I thought he had you in the last round. Awesome fights!

  • @fredeb67
    @fredeb67 11 месяцев назад

    This one kept me on the edge of my seat lol.

  • @jamesbowman5062
    @jamesbowman5062 Год назад

    After you broke right and sailed over the traffic you could see him when you looked at the second missile.

  • @sitrep123able
    @sitrep123able Год назад

    That battlefield music gets me every time

  • @jamesburrell677
    @jamesburrell677 Год назад

    I always enjoy your videos but this one left me wanting to see MORE!!!!

  • @benfoster5426
    @benfoster5426 Год назад

    Great vid. My thoughts. Radar, Missiles. Stealth coating. Avionics. Situational awareness. Electronic air defense measures. Air frame shaping. Tactics. AWACS. Whoever has the best mix, wins.

  • @willlayard192
    @willlayard192 Год назад +1

    It would be interesting to see the F35 vs the SU 57 in BVR especially if you were flying the f35

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC Год назад

    Awesome set up!

  • @AhHereWeGo
    @AhHereWeGo Год назад

    I was hoping for a repeat of a couple years ago where he slots in behind and waits for you to notice

  • @FreShuuuuu
    @FreShuuuuu Год назад +1

    7:38 i think we can see tally on f22 here. Little right to that smaller hill.

  • @aviationist1018
    @aviationist1018 Год назад +10

    Hi GS, what if you did 1v1 dogfights with every F15 variant in DCS?

    • @CaptainBiggles.
      @CaptainBiggles. Год назад +1

      There are only two, the E and the C unless you use mods, then you get the Nasa variant, the EX and the D "Baz"

  • @gustavorangel121
    @gustavorangel121 Год назад

    Amazing video! I like to see you fighting against a better aircraft.

  • @Ozasuke
    @Ozasuke Год назад

    Oh man... that traffic in Round 1 just saw an F-22 blow up over their heads and crash next to them.

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_5546 Год назад

    the flares right in the face with the hypersonic; the absolute disrespect hahahaha

  • @PaskaKo
    @PaskaKo Год назад

    round 3 was incredible on both sides...

  • @TotalDbag24
    @TotalDbag24 Год назад

    I think the 2nd round is how modern air combat will go. Just minding your business flying around and dead lol

  • @stepankubicina2768
    @stepankubicina2768 Год назад

    7:38 You can actually see him right there in the distance lol.