How I Met Your Mother - Lily, The Perfect Family Woman
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How I Met Your Mother's Lily doesn’t have a quest for romance like Ted, a series of conquests like Barney, or a long-term professional focus like Marshall and Robin. That’s because Lily is, in many ways, supposed to be an “ideal relationship woman.”
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MANIPULATION AND CONTROL ARE NOT SOMETHING TO ASPIRE TOWARDS.
@J N YES AGREED
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Marshall & the kids are a consolation prize for Lily. She really wants to be a successful artist in San Francisco.
I loved how Lily and Marshall were the most stable couple. They compromised and communicated well, and most of their problems were realistic, such as life goals clashing or finances.
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Yep, Lily and Marshal were a match. Unlike Robin and Ted who seemed to want different things.
I did think that Robin was more like Barney, and yes Barney was much more problematic, but they still seemed similar.
Ted was more like Marshal, just without his Lily.
I’ve used “pause” during fights when im not ready for an answer or to collect myself and my thoughts, and bc we get hungry hahah
While they may have been the most stable of the couples on the show, they are definitely not couple goals. She feels trapped and was a flight risk on multiple occasions.
Lily and Marshall were the couple that Ted wanted to be part of. That is why unreliable narrator Ted made them seem more stable.
As a former high school teacher, ruling out names of former students is common and doesn't mean you hate your job. I loved the job, my students were great but there were students who yeah, not naming my kids after them.
I think the reason they brought it up is because of Lily having a breakdown and confessing to Ted "I spend all day with kids and then I come home and it's more of the same", I'm actually surprised that this scene wasn't included in the video, but at a certain point Lily was burned out from the demands of her job
You wouldn't be naming them after those kids.
I feel like Lily is also a mom of the group. She is worried about their feelings most of the time and was the one to help to stop fights etc
She wasn’t worried about Teds feelings when she broke up all his relationships based on her stupid front porch theory
@J N even if they *were* her kids her behaviour would have been pretty toxic. I get that it's a sit com and characters need to behave funny but the Porch Rule should not be romanticed. It's horrible
She's also immature, selfish & irresponsible.
I found it refreshing that unlike most sitcoms, Lily wasn't immediately forgiven by Marshall and Ted for abandoning their friend group and leaving Marshall. She had to genuinely work to get back into their good books, and we see the impact that her abrupt departure had on Marshall.
And don’t forget the episode where Barney supposedly “screwed up” Marshall’s bachelor party. What redeemed Barney in Marshall’s eyes is that BARNEY was the one who flew all the way to San Francisco to ask Lily to come back to NY and marry Marshall. If BARNEY, a known womanizer, wants Marshall and Lily to stay together (to the point he’ll weep over the idea of them separating in Season 3 over a fight), that speaks VOLUMES
@@EricGraham94 But everytime they are in beef with Barney instead of making them work it out they just make Barney do these big gestures like flying out to San Francisco or getting in a car crash because he ran across the city to see Ted in the hospital.
@@GirlDo3 to be fair, that’s the lengths Barney will go to to showcase his loyalty. Barney will be upset initially, sure, but he will be the bigger man. Hell he apologized to Ted first about breaking the Bro Code (the second time I might add) after he got hit by a bus.
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@@icecreamcloud3372 me? Lol
I'm glad your talking about Lily, she gets a lot of hate from fans due to the way she acts, but so do the others and I feel like ppl don't see that's her character. She's flawed, like everyone else.
She’s the worst character on the show bar none. The video points out a lot of her terrible behavior but for some reason does it in a positive light.
There is little positive with Lily. She is a cold, manipulative, borderline psychotic character.
Lastly, Marshall was right during THE fight: Lily only came back to him cause SF didn’t work out. He, Marvin, their future kids, and even the group were consolation prices for her.
@@jessedellross3245 She actually has a big heart and cares a lot. If her friends weren't so immature and emotionally stunted, she wouldn't act so manipulative. And there's no doubt that she loves Marshall. She gave up things for him, and paid the price the one and only time she prioritized herself instead.
@@FeministCatwoman I dont mean to be mean, but how they portray in this video that she had to give stuff up and thats why she makes so little money is wrong. No one stopped Lily from graduating with a finance degree and becoming a banker and making tonnes of money! She chose a major that makes less money, thats not her sacrificing, its her choice and intellectual capacity!
@@FeministCatwoman she didn’t give up anything. She constantly put him in terrible situations with her debt. To the point she had to take terrible jobs to support HER.
And yet continued to buy clothes and stuff with HIS money.
The video points out times where she had to make sacrifices cause of her own actions…..and she threw temper tantrums EVERYTIME.
@@jessedellross3245 The setup of having Ted narrate allows us to imagine that Lily was not as bad as Ted's narration makes her. We the audience are free to imagine that Ted narrated Lily to be cold and manipulative in order to shift the blame for his own shitty behavior.
While my love for some characters went up and down throughout the seasons, Lily and Marshall I loved all the way through. I especially appreciated that rather than ruining their relationship with some stupid cheating storyline to keep the plot interesting, their problems were more realistic like having different career dreams or money problems
Cheating its also a realistic problem, but i dont think THAT its something this relationship survive
I feel like im the only one that doesnt like lilly and marshall as a couple, they look boring and codepedent to me
@@devilinred3319 True but it's also overdone and cliché. Glad they went for other stuff!
It's true that Lily is often shown to me manipulative, but just as often her social and emotional intelligence is presented as her being the smartest person in the group. I'd even go as far as saying, that Lily was the one who taught that understanding social dynamics is intelligence
yea - I also think it was wrong for them to suggest that she didn’t have anything driving her at all and that availability made her “the perfect domestic women” she literally broke up with Marshall to pursue art (in the end she didn’t like it but that impulsive behaviour is fun and not a quality of a stereotypical stable domestic wife in my opinion)
Ted narrated Lily to be manipulative and he was an unreliable narrator. I think Ted narrated Lily to be manipulative so he could pass the blame for his lack of social intelligence.
Lily is manipulative, until people realize the people she tries to influence are: a nigh-misogyny dude who is really narcissistic, a well-known womanizer who doesn’t really consider the consequences of his actions, a girl who valued her career over her own personal life, and a husband who has somewhat really low self-esteem. If there’s no Lily, I don’t think the group could have stayed together for over 10 years.
I never felt like she sacrificed her professional dreams for a more domestic life. What I love about Lily and other characters in this show, is that they show the reality that not everyone can achieve their more idealistic dreams. They could have said that if she just tried really hard she could have made it, but irl trying hard is not always enough, especially in a field like art. Instead, I love the approach that sometimes happiness and fulfillment don't come as we imagined, but that doesn't mean are less valuable.
The Show is about Marshall and Lily, Ted and the mother were plot device,
the show covers everything from how the first met till the end, it's impossible to have a relationship without a fight and problems but how Lily and Marshall dealt with it makes them the realistic part of the show, every time I rewatch the show I do it because of Marshall and Lily
No Ted just wanted to tell the kids some stories about Barney.
In lily's front porch fantasy I always wondered where Barney was, I've suspected that she may have killed him at times.
Ahahahahah😂😂😂 how do u think she did it ?
I hate how this video portrays that as somehow a good thing. It shows how selfish and delusional Lily is.
Probably thought Barney still be hitting on chicks at that age😅😂
He might have been stabbed by one of the girls he heartbroke. Or arrested for human trafficking
I like the fact that you pointed out that Lily didn't really have tangible goals. Yes, her goal was to be an artist but it was left too vague and she never really discussed her steps to how she's going to make it happen.
It was a hobby. EXACTLY as Marshall said in THE fight. He was completely right
It's also much more difficult to be a working artist than to be an environmental lawyer or an architect
Her goals would have been clearer if she was allowed to do the narrating for at least one episode. Older Lily could tell Ted's kids part of the story and fill the gaps in what Ted told his kids.
Yeah like... If you draw as a hobby you can consider yourself an artist. A more tangible goal would be to be able to live off of her work as an artist or to be published in a prestigious gallery, for example.
@@jessedellross3245 Just because you can't quantify your career goal exactly doesn't make it a hobby. If someone tells you: "My dream is to work in Medicine" no one would see that goal as a hobby even if it's not defined. (The field is so vast!)
Just because art can be done without a degree doesn't mean you don't have high expectations or ambitions or things you will struggle with without some schooling & the connections the schools will provide you. Like with medicine you need to pinpoint in what part of the field you see yourself thriving in and that takes time. Fine Art, Illustration, Animation, Studio Art, Architectural illustration, 3D, Concept art, etc. The issue with a career as emotionally tied to passion as this is that you need to literally do them to know where you interest & abilities lie. This is why there are so many artists that don't have children since they need to devote so much time to their craft.
Lily wanted both and unless you freelance and make your time, it's extremely difficult. I know from experience.
"Marahall and I have been together 15 years and the only debate we've had about Tommy boy is whether it's awesome or super awesome. That's love, bitch."
I'll admit that I wasn't a huge fan of HIMYM but Lily was absolutely my favorite character. Then again, I adore Allison Hannigan in everything so...
How do you feel about her suddenly moving to San Francisco?
Lily is probably my favourite character of the show. And I'm saying that as someone who never wanted kids, taught kindergarten and hated it, doesn't like to cook or bake, lol.
Rewatching the show nearly ten years after it finished, I find I really relate to Lily these days. I’ve been in a monogamous long-term relationship since I was 20. I always loved kids and wanted to be a mom, whilst also dreaming of being an artist, to the point where I almost left my relationship to pursue art early on. I also make the least money out of my friends and partner. But I finally got to work as an artist and became a mum… and some days I find myself struggling to love my job and of course I adore my daughter, but like most people in their 30’s, there are paths you wish you’d taken.
Sometimes I wish I’d done more with my art career, and even though I love being a mum, it turns out I’m not as homely and maternal as I thought I’d be, and I want more from my job.
Which is where I would love to see a female character in future who can be a mum AND have a career. Lily was a great mum, and Robin was a great career woman, but why do woman have to be one or the other? Why can’t they be both?
Yes. This is a dilemma the show's writers never successfully resolve. That's probably in no small part because for women to be able to have both, they would have to write men who do more domestic and care labor. American mothers mostly work in and outside the home now (over 70%) and still do 9-10 more hours of work per week than their male partners. I remember seeing Marshall cooking once with Lily. But I don't recall seeing him doing housework when he was unemployed. It was all Lily's job.
The writers also seemed to fall into the trap of separating career women from housewives, not being able to see how a woman could integrate the two. And that in fact most women do. The show's actual commitment to feminism and modern lives of women was often pretty shallow.
Every character in this show had very evident flaws, which is why we like it so much, we relate. But I do believe they did Lily dirty, they reduced her to only Marshall's girlfriend and at one point she didn't have any interests, she was just the partner. When she left for SF I thought they were going to give her a unique storyline like Robin's, I was very disappointed when she ended up back to Marshall's side and then they turned everyone against her by implying her family was a "consolation prize" when the only thing she did was having normal feelings. She deserved better.
JUSTICE FOR LILY! The fandom hate her so much it's ridiculous.
IKR!
I never understood why lily got so much shade. I mean, she was the mom of the group and most of the time voice of reason. Yes there are times she can be a little unreasonable and who can forget szn 1 finale. but lily did put her own needs to the side for a long time for the sake of her relationship and eventual marriage. Don’t get it twisted, as a renowned skeptic on love..I’ve always loved lily and Marshall’s relationship
Except you are wrong. She didn’t put anything she wanted to the side. What she wanted as to be the wife/mother to Marshall.
There’s nothing wrong with that don’t get me wrong. But the character was completely defined by her connection to Marshall. She was nothing without him.
@@jessedellross3245 I never saw hate for lily it was mostly for Ted and Robin in many forums I went to, Lily was usually the most beloved
On that note could we talk about how unfairly mistreated Lilly was by the end of the first season when she wanted to take the risks for her dreams and Marshal, selfishly, demanded that she gave up on that or the marriage? Gosh, back in 2006 I argued with so many people about it, people constantly labeled Lilly as the selfish one. Just postpone the marriage, gawd damit.
Well, Marshall also had to give up on his dreams and morals and take the soul-sucking corporate job he hated so much, so... That is life, isn't it.
@@JoaoPedro-gc8mw But Lilly did not forced his decision.
@@vulpes6144 actually she did with her debt. And then refused to changed her habits to help him.
@@vulpes6144 She did not force his decision. But her actions did. If I recall correctly, she was extremely irresponsible, with tons of credit card debt that she kept secret from Marshall (major redflag) and only told him when she saw he had the opportunity to have a high-paying job. And not only that. Yeah, she had the right to go try her dream, but she did abandon Marshal for that and, when she came back, she not only expected him to come back to her at once, she sabotaged him when he tried to move on. He was selfish and often made her suffer, she was selfish and often made him suffer. And that is ok. They are realistic characters like that, flawed but ultimately good-hearted.
That is a problem I have with The Take. Love the channel, but they are too forgiving to women. I understand that there is structural misogyny and that, but every single male trope is scrutinized to exhaustion for their actions, but there isn't a single female trope whose bad behavior isn't justified by The Take's hosts.
Marshall never made that ultimatum, he asked it she could guarantee that she would come back and she couldn’t so he didn’t want to wait 3 months to maybe be left anyways.
Everyone forgets that Marshal would leave his well paying job at GNB, for a volunteer position at Natural Resources Defense Council, and even hosts his home for the NRDC fundraiser. Their trip to Spain is canceled and Marshal stopped trying to have a family with Lily. Lily remained supportive for as long as she could. Yes she snapped and almost ran off to Spain but she's had Marshal's back since San Francisco. Probably even before then since I think she and Ted where the only one's holding a job while Marshal studied law.
I actually think it was good for lily to find out if she could really make it as an artist instead of her regretting not taking a chance it may have left Marshall feeling alone but it was good for her for being selfish.
I don't entirely disagree. I think the way she went about it was the problem.
But she made it either or in a way that would be unsustainable for her emotionally in the long term. Either marriage or a career is an unnecessary binary choice Marshall never made.
@@kahkah1986 but Marshall forced her to make that choice, she did not want to break up, he did. Her leaving to San Francisco was framed as selfish when in reality it was Marshall who couldn’t stand her being away
@@swaggygirl3516 ok, I had forgotten that, it makes more sense actually, that Marshall had kind of set if up for failure from the beginning in that way. I can understand that he would say he needed boundaries, but yeah, he sabotages SF for her then. No wonder she feels blocked and her paintings fail, she has been emotionally rocked. Marshall can always refer back to that as proof that she failed as an artist, but he made it hard for her.
Marshmallow and Lillypad forever
Dude I completely forgot about Lily's feelings for Robin!!!
"That would be stupid, so . . . so . . . stupid. You are stupid."
Or was it "I'm stupid"?
It's a cute recurring joke :)
I love Lily. A regular housewife and mother. I've made that choice she has and I don't regret it.
I’ve always connected the most with Lily and I had no idea why for a few years beacuse Robin was who everyone around me kind of wanted to be, career oriented, not tied down, the cool girl etc (which is fine but not everyone has to be that way). But there’s something really nice about seeing other women celebrate being a Lily just as much as being a Robin
@@Black_pearl_adrift I love Robin too, but I don't relate to Robin the way I do Lily. But, I root for women, no matter if they are like Lily, or Rkbin.
@@michelletackett9489 What a healthy conclusion. It’s always annoying how these conversations always end in either hating housewives or hating career-driven women lol
@@anoushkashenoy692 I know. Why not love both? We all bring something important to the table. Whether we are CEOs, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, or housewives.
she's far from perfect and that's why i love her
Lily and Marshall are my favourite characters in the show. My husband and I have been together since we were 15, so we are a lot like them. Though it's impossible to be as sweet as they are)
It kinda hurts thinking that the one person she thought would've been an excellent match for Ted didn't get to be on that front porch 🙁
Loved this analysis, I just wish you had included the "Sometimes I wish I wasn't a mom" scene. That breaks my heart every time I watch it.
Lily is by far my favorite character on the show, she is just plain awesome!
Shes the only character I really respect throughout every single episode. She is Legen, wait for it, dary.
such a insightful, interesting character study of one of my favorite comfort characters!
I kinda have to disagree. Lily did not have a typical feminine upbringing. Her mother was a feminist, working two jobs (if I remember correctly), her father raised her while making board games, she also never got an easy bake oven because her mother said that propagates gender roles and stereotypes. Also Lily was a punk as a teenager, influenced by grunge for sure because she dated Scooter since he resembled Kurt Cobain. Even in college you can see that when she meets Marshall for the first she still has the punk persona (with the hair and makeup). In my opinion, she evolved into this feminine persona, like the one you're describing, as her relationship with Marshall started to blossom. Maybe not in a bad way, but definitely different from what she used to be. Like how most IRL relationships can change people, for the better or for worse.
Interesting and nuanced take on the Lily character. In my life, I feel like I married someone with a lot of Lily's traits and it's interesting to see how this plays out for a character on screen.
i feel like its worth mentioning too, in the finale as we fast forward through the next ~20 years of the gangs life, the only thing we really see unfold in lily's life is her having a third child with marshall. we see how everyone else's career progresses except for lily's, it's never brought up.
Alyson did this character so much justice. Goddamn my heart still shatters a bit at the scene 14:40 and when she says sometimes she wishes she wasn't a mom.
And truely that's what I love this show. It shows real problems, not just mainly focus on love and sex, break up and cheating.
I would love if The Take analyzed the core 5 of One Tree Hill.
Lily gives good advice most of the time and is a very good partner, yet if she was real i don't think i would like to have her as a friend,leave alone a family member. She meddles with everyone´s private life and can't be trusted with a secret unless it´s hers .But as a character she is pretty fine
she would be the worst friend irl
Marshall is the best partner. I only got mad when he said the "consolation prize" thing especially because Lily was thinking she was pregnant.
I mean Marshall didn’t knew that at the moment so its good to see him compromise for lily’s dream when he find out. You can see that both of them are like this ideal partner.
He was 100% in the right in that fight.
Marshall was absolutely right when he said that. She only came back to him cause SF didn’t work out.
She had a lot of nerve to claim HE was the more selfish one
@@jessedellross3245 Lily sabotages SF though, like later when she sabotages their career plan with the debt. It isn't logical, it is emotional, but emotional flakiness like that happens when someone can't admit to their limits and the unhappiness comes out in other ways.
@@kahkah1986 how does she sabotage SF? She’s literally told she sucks, gets upset, and comes crawling back to Marshall. If SF had worked out, she wouldn’t have come back.
And the Italy/job with the captain was a complete joke. They did nothing with her character for years, then try to play it off like she is a victim. She was completely content with being the wife and mother to Marshalls kids…..till she wasn’t. And then has the nerve to say Marshall never supported her.
Worst character
Interesting video, I'm so tired of people hating on Lily as she may have done some things that weren't great but Barney and Ted did lots of super questionable things and Marshall was sometimes nice but made plenty of mistakes and was a bit dismissive of her dreams of pursuing a career in the art world, which feels unfair as he got to be a lawyer and even a judge like he wanted and got to have career success but Lily wasn't often valued or respected and sacrificed more of her own professional goals and dreams than the others.
Robin doing bad thinks too
Lily was my favorite character in the series.
lily is the best
You guys! You need to do a character analysis of someone in Seinfeld.
PLEASE!
I am dying to be this woman.
For me the main theme in HIMYM is our live never work out like our dream or plan. There are so many line in the show say something like “ But that’s not how life works”, either from the character arc side or the ending
I thought the main theme was that Ted was narrating and you are challenged to imagine why Ted would narrate the other characters the way he did. Why did he narrate Barney to be the way he was? Why did he narrate Lily to be in a lot of debt? How would Ted have known? He also introduced a woman as Blah Blah. People's memories honestly do get fuzzy over time, but was this forgotten name reasonable? Audience, you decide.
I love Lily, she was my favourite Character in HIMYM ❤️
Going to San Francisco to chase your dreams or canceling the marriage because you have serious second thoughts is absolutely understandable and in hindsight a very good choice.
The problem is that she left Marshall alone and in pieces and didnt even call him in those 3 months, to check if he is alright. She didnt have any contact with her friends at all, and didnt care about Marshalls feelings.
After that, she immediately wanted to get back together with Marshall, thinking he has zero self respect and then she was mad that he refused (brunch episode). The episode that made me realize though that Lily is a selfish, manipulative person is their "wedding" in Atlantic city: She knew Marshalls wedding dreams and knows that Marshall loves his family and friends over everything, but decided to dodge their previous wedding plans, so she wouldnt have to face Marshalls family and friends. The credit card story, where she wants her husband working in a job he despises because of her fuckup, but then after a few seasons changes her mind and wants him to work as an Environmental lawyer or the Italy story just shows what a grinch she really is.
Marshall was definitely the settler and deserved wayyy better.
OK, I just saw myself in Lily. no wonder i love this show lol!
I could never be Lily. If a man makes me give up MY dream for his, we’re done. Why? Because he’s assuming and showing me that he thinks he’s more important. I’d rather die alone.
I love this channel channel it keeps doing videos about my favourite TV show of all time
Sooo.... "women can't have it all" in that they can't be happily married and have a good job....but Marshal and Ted can get both the dream of a family and good job?
Thanks, I hate it.
Yep. This show written by men displays the usual male tropes about women's professional and psychic lives. It was pretty disappointing. Most women live far more integrated lives than this opposition suggests.
I love Lily, not just because of how real she is with everything she's going through, she is also the unofficial leader of the group, the big sister, the mother, the voice of reason and also the scariest one. Also love how even though she reminds me of a Monica/Phoebe hybrid she also has a firey touch from Bernadette (TBBT) another one of my favorites
Lily is great, but Linda Belcher is the greatest TV mom/wife of all time.
Leaving your fiancé to become a painter in San Francisco is a horrible thing to do. Although Lilly eventually became a good wife to Marchall, she is lucky he took her back 👀
Lilly is for sure canonically bi.
The Lily and Mickey storyline is sweet.
Love the show, but if HIMYM wasn't a comedy, Ted would be Joe Goldberg.
Just because Lily’s goals may not match ours, does not make her a lesser person.
Remember that time we have found out she has been effectively fucking up Ted’s relationships since college
Please do one or more about the characters of One Tree Hill 😭
i am such a lily
Wow Ted called it Marshall dies at 68
Perfect in the eyes of who exactly?
It can be tricky analysing sit coms. Lily objection to some child names based on bad behaviour is a joke. I don't think it is really part of her trajectory.
Sometimes IMPLIED to be bisexual? Please!
Lily and marshall is the only tv couple I will ever root for
Video on SMG and now Alyson Hannigan, back to back? I smell a Buffy video very soon…
I actually think Lily beats Ted for worst character. She fully manipulates her friends to get what she wants instead of having open conversations. I don't like how this take took a positive spin on that. Manipulation is not ok. Also when she forced Barney and Robin to define their relationship was unfair. Let them do what they want its not your life.
THANK YOU!!!! I’m completely baffled by how the ladies portray Lily’s actions in a positive way. She is a TERRIBLE character. The front porch thing alone gets her the spot.
And Marshall was absolutely right: him and their family were consolation prices. She wouldn’t have come back if SF had worked out.
That's the comment I was looking for. I completely agree!
@@moabitersterni same lol
Я тоже думала об этом. Чувствую в себе этот же невроз, что и у героини. И проблемы с детства, и строгие правила для своей нынешней семьи, и то, что я с легкостью забросила карьеру своей мечты ради мужа и сына. Иногда я тоже жалею. Иногда я тоже плачу, что не могу пока быть никем кроме мамы и жены. Но муж меня поддерживает, я верю, что у меня тоже будет шанс как у Лили
Haven't you seen even one of probably 50 comments at this point about Better Help and why it's a bad idea to partner with them?
I honestly never liked Lily, she battles Ted for my least favourite character. And I see her as a bit of a "grinch" as Ted called her after she abandoned everybody. But I'll still watch this video on the character because I love different perspectives and ofcourse, your take!
Agreed, I actually liked how nobody forgave Lily for abandoning Marshall and their friend group for ages, and it took a while for her to get back into Ted and Marshall's good books.
Can you do an episode on the idea of Ted being a reliable narrative and how that may come across in each of the characters
Lily and Robin are two different women whom are still friends and a real life message that friendships cant be based on beliefs. Both women are empowered. I kind ah prefer a Robin Schrebatsky style Girlfriend coz she is very cool and extremely confident but I always want a best friend like Barney and Lily Aldrin.
Robin has the personality of one commonly found in men in the population.
That's because Robin is the male conception of "Cool Girl." There's an hilarious chapter in the novel "Gone Girl" that rips the trope of "Cool Girl" to shreds.
Lilly and Marshall is the best couple in the history of tv. No boday was and will ever be even close enough to them
Lily is the ultimate Taurus.
Lily was already so boring to me, I’m a Robin girl.
Sooo lily can be a good wife bc she has a supportive husband who is willing to put his dream aside for hers and is willing to comprise like she is willing to huh 🤔 makes sense to me! ☺️
lily is the most toxic character in this show. She is constantly manipulating the lives of her friends to find end results SHE thinks is best, while making selfish decisions that hurt her friends. Leaving Marshall, ruining Marshall's date with the crazy eyes chick, forcing Robin and Ted's breakup etc
Please do HIMYF pt 2
can you please do a video on 'one tree hill' characters?
Im just like her fr
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I wish I get a marshall
what Lily was the worst , abusive , selfish ( i think you like too much the chracter ... robin is bad too)
So her Venus is in Cancer you say?
Lmfao am I Lilly?
I always hated Lily but loved Lily and Marshall’s relationship
Who do you think is better. Monica and Chandler. Or Marshall and Lilly?
…gotta say Mondler, they were a team and helped the other achieve their dreams.
Plus I think they had enough time to achieve the personal goals while single.
But I don’t think their relationships was as realistic…
MONDLER NO COMPETITION
Mondler and it’s NOT close
You better hope Roseanne Barr doesn't see that thumbnail.
Never get why she is so hated.
No Marshall is very specifically the reacher and Lily the settler because he's less good looking I assume
She is so manipulative, that always bugged me very much
Uhm i dont understand why you get a betterhelp sponsor now, after we've all found out it's not a good company and it doesn't actually help most people that need real help. Please do some research, this makes it seem like you don't give a crap. Like the video's but sponsors like that make me look elsewhere.
AMERICAN PIE GIRL WAS A TRAD WIFE!!! No need for that! It’s fictional!
She didn’t give up on her dream. She studied it and pursued it & is simply not talented.
Isn't it interesting how lily's flaws are glossed over. But an entire video is dedicated to how much of a monster Ted is.
Worst character in HIMYM by a mile. Second is Ted. Then is Robin. Then Barney. Marshall is the GOAT.
i see you’re a man of culture!!!!
Preach, Marshall was the only main character who didn't really annoy me, aside from Barney, mostly.
Really? I’d say Ted was FAR worse than Lily.
Nah. Ted is the worst easily.
I love how they make, like, 2010 seem like some kind of long dead bygone era. "It reflected the times". Yeah, before our society collectively lost its mind.
I mostly watched the show for Lily and Marshall.... Ted was very off putting to me and eventually made me stop watching the show. Like I even grew to like Barney, I can't really tell what it is but I just dislike Ted's character.
Well, Ted is a frequently narcissist faux romantic with boundary issues who lives in a created fantasy. Might that be why you have issues with him?
This is why Lilly is 10X better than Robin.