How I Met Your Mother's Dating Rules - Do They Really Work?
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How I Met Your Mother was full of a lot of dating rules, often voiced by Barney Stinson, who lived and preached “The Bro Code.” And while today many of these rules are cringe-worthy and dated, displaying a retrograde understanding of gender, they still get at a deeper ongoing desire to codify dating and relationships into a clear set of laws.
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"And most importantly, whatever you do in this life it's not legendary unless your friends are there to see it"
I was sure to see you there!
Legend- wait for it
@@Max-unbox-all Dary! Legendary.
The older you get, The 2am rule just makes sense. Go home and go to sleep... the party is over. Chasing the party has never done me any good. Nothing good has ever happened after 2 am. Just drunker and broker than I started out.
Disagree about the nothing good ever happening from chasing the party, a lot of fun and good things have happened to me from staying up past 2am. However it's definitely getting less and less true as I'm getting older
For me, I'm still pretty young but I like to leave at midnight, I got a small social battery 😂
Also agreed nothing good happens after 2am unless it's a sleepover or small kickback at your house and you have those great deep convos
I hated that the final season was dedicated to Barney giving up his playboy lifestyle, and maturing thanks to his love for Robin, only to regress back into being a womaniser as soon as they got divorced. All of his character development went right out the window, though meeting his daughter for the first time was sweet.
The final season did everyone dirty except Lily and Marshall
They didn't want to get rid of the past they wanted to stick to something that didn't work after season 2. Retconning the show to get the ending they want is why the ending sucks and will always suck. Barney and Robin both had grown beyond their 'playboy', 'workoholic' personas and actually wanted to settle down with each other. Robin settled down with Barney vs Robin settling for Ted because the initial no never moved on in his head. He was a terrible boyfriend and never grew up while Barney and Robin actually did just by being around each other. The ending doesn't and will never work for me, BR are together in my mind, they are enjoying their none stable life styles and having the fun they always had. Sometimes settling doesn't mean staying in one place state or mind.
@@christophergarrett7082 especially the mother
He had the best character development I've seen just for them to throw it all out for an ending they filmed in S1. It's crazy. I'm staying with the alternative ending.
And you know what Neil Patrick said he can't cameo on the spin-off bc Barney's antics wouldn't fly nowadays, Hillary thinks he'd be in Jail (lol playboys exist?). There'd be no "problem" had they not erased it.
While there is no way you can/should follow these rules like laws, a lot of them are valid. Like the first one you mentioned - "never make plans further in the future than the time you've going out" is very practical. There was also another one where he said that big romantic gestures only work if the other person is equally into you, otherwise they come off as creepy - that one is also valid. But all rules have exceptions, and I'll leave it at that.
Yeah; the rules are "cringeworthy" and "retrograde" only too purveyors stale Woke Left thought
This is true like the nothing good comes after 2am one, as a rule that works but yeah there are some exceptions.
@@MechaJutaro What you said doesn't make sense.
I did that rule and I don't even remember that scene! 😅
10:03 TBH I think the “Hot/Crazy Rule” is universal for men AND women. Everyone’s tolerance of a partner is dependent on their attraction to them…🤷🏻♂️
I think it is cute/creepy scale for men.
Respect yourself and your partner(s) however long you are with them, have standards, but be open minded and open hearted. Love isn't a game, its a blessing.
:/
Love is a luxury that my heart is too poor to afford .
Amen dude 💜🤘🏻
@@deeznuts-dq1fd someday I believe you'll find it if that's what you want :) don't worry too much, it'll come and it'll be awesome
The reason rules don't work is because people aren't robots that you can program. Treat people like people, like individuals. You can't program them.
Sure but don't use the husband's condoms that really is rude. I mean the whole adultery thing is rude but especially that.
@@NoThankUBeQuiet Like a wife shouldn't use her own husband's condom when they have sex?! what?!
And I think this is the same reason most dating advice doesn't work 100% of the time, they can help you improve your chances but there's no guarantees when it comes to finding love.
I disagree. People should have standards on who they date. Perhaps we should separate modern "dating" (screwing around) vs someone with serious intentions of finding a partner to share a life. First date is figuring out if there should be a second date (compatibility), second date should be about determining rules, setting boundaries and expectations.
Actually, I'd really like to see your take on He's Just Not That Into You. It feel like an odd in between eras movie. On the one hand, it's full of terrible romcom cliches, and yet, it's actually the first romantic comedy I've seen to challenge the "if he's mean, it's probably just because he likes you"
The public opinion of the book has changed so much over time as well. When it came out it was almost meant to be a permission to people to give up on relationships that are one sided in a positive, self-affirming way. Now it gets judged as being too stringent, for example ending a relationship that doesn't want to marry you is seen as being too narrow-minded.
I've never been one for rules and never read the book (and don't particularly like this movie) but I 100% agree with Justin Long's character's advice that if a guy (or girl) wants to speak to you, see you, call you they will find a way to do it. As a straight woman (still a mellinial, but an elder one, lol) who dated for around 20 years before I got married, I found that the guys that were really interested in me made it a point to seek me out. there were no games. I was never confused. If a guy acted like he didn't give a crap, he didn't, and if a guy was interested, I knew it. For better or for worse. I didn't have to interpret anything. Who has the time and energy for that?! I was always exhausted just watching Charlotte date on SATC.
One rule from HIMYM that I find really disturbing and that is too close to reality for comfort is "The Naked Man." It was a trick from the playbook where the man strips naked in his date's apartment and they say 1/3 women will just have sex with him. What really disturbs me is that they pretend that it's ok to sexually harass 2/3 women in their own apartment as long as there's a 1/3 chance that the women will give him sex.
Obviously, this one is completely made up but when you ask a lot of men who sexually harass women on the street, in dating apps, or who send unconsentual images of their private parts, why they do this even though so many women hate this, they often say that it doesn't matter if 99 women reject them because there is a theoretical chance that one woman will respond positively and give them sex. They do not care about sexually harassing the other 99 women, as long as there is a miniscule chance to get sex out of it.
If they weren't absolute predators, their reasoning should be the opposite: even if 99% of women would respond with giving them sex, they should never do it because there is a chance that it could be harassment to 1 woman.
Its the opposite, 67% chance of getting late with the naked man, thats why is absurd
I never understood how this show was ok. Barney partook of rape by fraud literally every episode. Of coercion, manipulation, severe predatory behaviors. I literally don’t understand why it was played for laughs.
They even harass by sending inappropriate messages while playing multiplayer games online
@@isakmustafa9704 rape culture is in no way funny. It makes is so that your own mom has probably never had consensual sex. You’re just a product of her manipulation and societal subjugation. Unwanted. A horrible mistake of millennia of trauma and brain damage. Not funny. Neither was this third rate FRIENDS knockoff. I never understood how people liked it. Aside from the Barney character who could st least sometimes be funny due to Neil Patrick Harris being incredibly talented.
Not a single other character was anything but completely bland and basic, but without the charm and quirk of other ensemble casts.
@@nataliaalfonso2662 How is Barney rapist? It's sitcom from 2005 for CBS! Relax sitcoms are not real you know normal people know that is wrong.
The Hot/Crazy scale also had some subtle hilarity to it in that there's a hot girl standing by the word HOT and Barney is effectively labeled CRAZY as a result.
The interesting thing about Barney Stinson is the way he was meant to be perceived vs. how he was perceived by some audiences. If you look at his portrayal on the show, it is incredibly obvious that he was 100% attended to be an unlikable douchebag who we were meant to enjoy seeing get his comeuppance again and again. The problem is that some people kind of didn't get the joke, and thought of Barney as someone they were supposed to like. An even cursory look at the text shows that this idea is ridiculous, but I guess Neil Patrick Harris was so fun in the role that the entire point was lost on certain men.
Even the song he made about how awesome he is has the line "This isn't Barney Stinson singing this song, that would be really lame" when it's pretty clear in the show that he was the one singing it.
Mmm I don't know if I really buy that; sure his villainy is so obvious that we rarely feel bad for him when he suffers, but also Barney gets all the best lines, he's funny, and always appears to be more genre aware than the other characters. Whether we're meant to approve or not of Barney is unclear, but we're definitely not meant to think of his actions as seriously damaging to the women around him, like we would with someone like him in real life.
NPH is incredibly charming, and as someone said got a lot of the comedy in that show. In lesser hands the fact that Barney is a villain would be more obvious and it's still pretty obvious. I kind of think it's down to the charisma of NPH that Barney isn't just an insufferable, unlikable side character. I think a lot of other actors saying the exact same lines just wouldn't land and the character would've been hated.
No it's just it made him fun (and "realistic). He was messy, "problematic", flawed, interesting and compelling, then we saw him change to the better, learn and grow (until they reset him, bless the alternative ending). I very much prefer characters like that compared to characters we see on TV now, boring, uncompelling, "unproblematic", always right, no mistakes, no character development or change etc-.
At times, he could be either, and I believe that's how he was meant to be perceived. He's a grey character. He's DEFINITELY darker shade of grey, and people overall should not act like that, but he had redeeming qualities.
That's what makes characters so great, they can be layered, just like real people.
Also, can we stop taking TV shows and movies sooo seriously? Like we get it, we shouldn't act like that, but can't we laugh at the absurdity?
Dont break up with a girl on their birthday
good rule
twice
6:32 Wearing glasses is a sign of being untrusting now?? We just want to see!! 🤣
I know, but Dorothy Parker knew the score:
"Men don't make passes at girls who wear glasses".
Ted,wanting to settle, following "dating rules" from a man who is very loud about not wanting to "date" just sex,i mean...
This isn't even slightly related to the video but I just want to thank you because you have been such a powerful source in my way of understanding feminism/female gaze/ toxicity and so many other important issues that go unnoticed in our daily lives. You have helped me shed my rose-tinted glasses and stop romanticising toxic behaviour portrayed in cinema and as an impressionable teen I really really thank you. You are both utterly intelligent and gorgeous women and thank you for teaching me what my mother failed to.
The text says, "Barney is a sleazy bastard"
The framing says, "Barney is cool and aspirational"
Framing supersedes the text, always always always
Barney's only "success" is that he does sleep with most of the women he pursues, but the show does frame this consistently as hollow success in comparison to the more developed relationships like Lily and Marshall's. Barney is repeatedly shown to be very emotionally stunted as a result of not knowing who his father is, and craves validation from his friends on some really childish things. His pursuit of sex is him trying to compensate for his need for attention and validation, and he is only able to reach actual fulfilment and happiness when he leaves womanising behind to pursue meaningful relationships in which he actually cares about the woman he's seeing. I think most people who watched the show all the way through do get that, which is why so many were angry that Barney's character regressed into his pathetic former self after his divorce with Robin. But even the creators knew they couldn't leave him like that and made him give it up again after becoming a dad. If anyone didn't see Barney as pathetic (though lovable at times), honestly they didn't really get what the show was trying to do with his character.
I mean in the first episode the guy is literally shown to be playing Laser Tag with children and arguing with them over it. He is established as a man-child from jump. The Slap Bet is also a manifestation of him getting his comeuppance throughout the series, and I don't think it's a coincidence that it's Marshall slapping him, the guy in a committed relationship throughout the series who has perhaps the healthiest view of love in the whole show.
If anything the show's framing of Ted in a consistently positive light when the dude is the epitome of a "nice guy" is more insidious imho.
Batman Returns is a complicated case.
The Penguin is framed as tragic character but written as an irredeemable monster.
Barney doesn't want a relationship. He's a creep. If Robin doesn't want a serious relationship. It's ok.
The rule I actually follow is the Date Time Continuum: you don’t make plans with someone further into the future than you’ve known them. It works with dating but friendships too-don’t book a trip in 6 months if you’ve only been friends for a month lol! Of course there’s always exceptions to every rule, but I generally follow this one. ✌️
I don't care about the rules of dating, but this just shows once again why Barney and Robin belonged together. When it came to each other, they took RULES and threw them out the window. They did not care about rules when it came to each other. That's where the finale is wrong, when you know that something is right you do something to let the other one know you care without anything being about something to get out of it. When, Barney proposes to Robin even though they weren't together it shows her finally throwing away all the rules of being in a relationship and doing what's right for HER. Barney was showing her if you're not ready to take a chance on me/us then I really am done and you can move on. The reason why she said yes was because she wasn't afraid to be with him because she loved him. Saying no would have allowed for them both to move on from thinking it was too late for them to be together. They tried a relationship before and failed because they had to act like everyone else ie their friends would act in relationships, but with them they took cautions to a whole other level. Plus they have chemistry to back up their real feelings. The ending doesn't work because they both got far enough in the relationship they found with each other to make the relationship work and last. With that ending it took all the development they had found over 9 seasons and scrapped it for nonsensical bullshit bc the creators were never creative enough to allow for Barney and Robin to actually breakup again. Their relationship works unlike Marshall and Lilly's because it's an unconventional relationship, where they grow because of being around each other and understanding the other one's needs on a different scale the Marshall and Lily who think that if they aren't with each other that they won't find anyone else for them. M/L are codependent, but B/R are independent these relationship tend to last longer than the codependent ones because this couple can grow on their own and eventually go back to each other once they know they want to be together and make the relationship work.
Anita, is breaking Barney's rules but by the end of the episode he keeps his promise to Robin which only made Robin's emotions more apparent. Robin never truly got over their horribly handled first breakup (she never would get over Barney bc he is her actual ONE) he is her true soulmate the one who actually grew because of his relationship with her, unlike Ted who sabotages actual healthy relationships to go back to being Robin's lap dog. When Robin told him on their first date 'NO' it meant no. But that no turns him into a stalking, annoying, persistent chase without thinking about any other person's feelings. He disregards Robin's, Stella's, Victoria's, Zoey's, Barney's feelings because he couldn't move on from that initial no from Robin. It's not romantic to hit on a woman who doesn't feel the same way because THEY JUST MET. Her telling Ted right from the start that she doesn't want anything that he wants is realistic. When she becomes friends with Ted's friends, he builds the trap for her to start loving him. Once she breakup with Ted, she moves on and started falling for Barney because he is so easy to be with and they get along so well and have things in common which is what BR have and her relationship with Ted doesn't have.
Barney and Robin were meant to be, they had a found relationship that became soulmates because they were friends first and it helped establish their relationship throughout the show. When, BR started changing and opening up to a relationship they found themselves withing being best friends because that's what real relationships are. They are found, although they are funnily quite made for each other, literally born to be together they just had to figure things out without the gangs involvement in the relationship they have with each other.
The best way to kill the trope of the heartless womaniser is depict a playboy who doesn't try to manipulate or coerce his lovers but is upfront of is polyamery and respects women and that in turns attracts the women. This way casual sex can't be stigmatised and incels still have a hope of becoming a lady's man without submitting to any toxicity. I would also like to point out that Lucifer from Lucifer fits the part perfectly.
But that's just boring
@@mewesquirrel6720 heAlTHy tHIngs arE soooooo bORIng lolol
@@Ashandonyx health? What about it
@@mewesquirrel6720 yeah imagine not having to manipulate people to make them sleep with you
Both are good, the first one (minus manipulation) leaves more open for better change (which is why Barney's character development was so good until..) the other one is already good as it is. There needs no change.
Great video!! That conclusion was right on the money.
The Playbook rules are pop psychology tricks that are basically...mating techniques. All of them hide your true self and put forward a glorious mate that makes another caveman brain horny.
The Rules like strategies are about protecting yourself from being manipulated by knowing your worth. Focusing on logical brain and building respect with a person before being vulnerable.
Barney created the playbook after he was cheated on (while a virgin), betrayed, and publicly humiliated. He was traumatized and created rules to avoid intimacy (pain) but still get his needs met. It doesnt help how effective this strategy is, proving to him women want money/power and not his true self. The cure for barney's intimacy fears was Robin knowing him and loving the real him. So obviously her divorcing him would cause him to regress.
That's the lesson of HIMYM. The only way to love is through authenticity.
Ted Mosby wasn’t no prize and they did the mother real dirty at the end too. 🙄
If I have to sum up this episode of The Take in one sentence, it would be this: In the realm of dating and true love, rules were made to be broken.
I have no idea who started the Three Date Rule. I keep telling women that after three dates, you don't know if your new love interest is married, a felon, a stalker, unemployable or insane. Discretion is required.
it depends how long apart those three dates are
I love How I Met Your Mother and Barney was charming and had a lot of character growth, but he was definitely Misogynistic and his friends did call him out on it.
I'm so glad someone articulated all this.
this is just a a thesis on the Barbossa romantic clause:
The rules are really just guidelines
Before watching the video i wanted to say: i always thought all of their theories were extremely misogynistic and easily the worst aspect of the show, though that was all over the place, the level of misogyny of this show is astronomic
13:35 is taken completely out of context. Barney wasn't using reverse psychology, he was legitimately saying no because he promised Robin he wouldn't sleep with Anita.
But it does show the effect they wanted to highlight. Barney doing it for plot reasons is secondary
19:59
There were plenty of points that were taken out of context or times where they flip flopped with how they felt about the narrative of himym. I don't think this is a video to be taken as a serious criticism of the series though, as it mainly discussed how the "rules" work.
God I love these videos!! When you used my favourite show (himym) and my favourite movie (don jon) to neatly tie together a beautiful observation of the dating world, I literally had tears in my eyes. Something about the way you two script these videos always leaves me blown away. I love how you make these connections across television and film to weave together a clear message. Absolutely incredible, as always. Your videos have made me love and appreciate himym even more than I already did ❤️
The Take, I love what you guys are doing. Could you please do a video on this topic?
The Pregnant Woman trope in the horror genre, such as:
Women getting impregnated by aliens.
Women turning into bloated hives for alien reproduction.
A woman giving birth to a demonic child.
A woman carrying a baby for an evil cult.
Even men getting impregnated by an otherworldly seductress.
Misogynist, sexist, rape culture, shock value or just pushing a fear of aliens and demons?
Is it possible to make a good horror/sci-fi movie without resorting to otherworldly beings impregnating women?
Is it possible to make a story arc where the woman that was impregnated, is recovering from this mental scarring?
Alien vs Predator: Requiem and Slither are all levels of wrong.
(For anyone who reads this, I would like to know your thoughts)
Oh, that’s such an interesting topic! I personally hate the trope as it tends to reduce women to their biological functions and turns it into horror, but would be very interested in a nuanced look.
@@TheSummelBaerli I have a question.
Is it empowering to have a betrayed woman turning into an alien mother, only to kill those who wronged her?
How would you write her character?
This could work, like Starcraft's Sarah Kerrigan.
@@saimaharaj109 I haven’t watched Stargate, but I believe it could work if done right.
The most important factor to consider is: what does the alien pregnancy actually stand for? For example, we could think of it as an allegory for the fear of a pregnancy going wrong and resulting in some sort of deformation due to medical or pharmaceutical malpractice (i.e. how Rosemary‘s baby can be interpreted). In a sci-fi setting that could be the work of anything from evil scientists to technology gone wrong to alien interference. I think a revenge story that also entails the mother learning to love her child nonetheless could be quite powerful. She could grow as a person in the process. Maybe she was very controlled and felt the need to be perfect, but when control was taken from her, she first despaired, unable to cope or adjust to her sense of perfection shattering. She feels guilty for not being able to feel like a mother should, but she feels like this opportunity was robbed from her. She feels as though they destroyed the person she could have been, the love she could have had, the love she wanted to have. So she swears revenge. And maybe the revenge is super kick ass, but what really gives her peace is the realisation , that she doesn’t need to be a perfect mother like she envisioned. I’m not a writer at all, but I enjoy reading/watching characters who have clear motivations and act upon them. For a feminist take, I think it would also be great if she weren’t alone. Maybe she gets together with other victims or her friends, family, lover help her out. I hate when film makers think strong woman = invincible and infallible woman, who does everything on her own.
In a very broad sense GOT‘s Daenerys was an alien mother on a quest for revenge as well. She became the mother of dragons. She miscarried her human child and instead „birthed“ the dragons. The show mishandled her character when they ran out of books, but I found that very interesting.
As you so eloquently pointed out in your first comment, this trope can stand for a myriad of things, so there is an incredible amount of ways to take that story. I think what really makes me squirmish is when the pregnancy itself was forced. Then you basically have a baby resulting of r*** on your hands and it’s extremely hard to follow that up in a feminist way.
@@TheSummelBaerli Okay then, thank you for the insight!
There are some video essays that kinda talk about this. The relationship between women and horror is much deeper and older than one might think. It is theorized than since women do not have the monopoly of violence in real life, it has been a genre so explore what happens when they get to have a complicated relationship with it. Men going crazy and doi2effed up things is a topic in horror but it's almost.... "normal" and "expected". That's because we know irl, men are the ones that tend to be serial killers, school shooters, terrorists, etc. It's scary but it's also, unfortunately, normal. The violence women are capable of, usually is much more domestic, in the sense that it usually has a lot to do with family, children, etc. There's something unsettling about a woman doing unspeakable things and many of those have to do with maternity. The realm in which we as a society get to explore what happens when women are violent, when they act on their big feelings, when they get obsessed, is horror. On the other hand, women are drown to horror in a deeper level than men for the most part. Frankenstein was written by a teen girl and it changed a lot of the genre of horror and science fiction. Most of the audience of true crime channels are women. It's not a coincidence, it's almost as if a) women are interested in exploring their relationship with violence in a safe way and b) they're fascinated with understanding the mind of violent people, since we're one of the main victim groups. Finally, they symbolism is also a big thing to consider. Women in horror are usually not passive (unless they're casual victims), they're usually in the position they are because they made choices. I wouldn't fall that necessarily empowering but it's a game of opposites where women are portrayed to be desirable/innocent/beautiful but they're capable of things. Horrible things, but capable nevertheless. Horror was one of the first genres where women got to have power, where they get to be proactive, to have revenge. It makes a lot of sense that a gender that's been historically repressed and oppressed gets a thrill in their relationship with horror. And weather we personally want to be mom's or not, our relationship with reproduction is way more close and explicit than the one men have with it. We bleed, we have a certain number of physiological changes that include motherhood. Even trans women have many of the same biological/psicological/social processes than cis women. It makes sense than one of the more discussed topics in horror regarding women is motherhood and pregnancy.
I don’t know, I think it depends on the rule and how you go about it. Like most things, it’s not black and white. Circumstances matter.
But then again, I hardly date, so… 🤷♀️🤣
People irl absolutely follow the hot/crazy rule, that's literally the basics of pretty privilege. And it applies to both people of all genders. The more conventionally attractive you are the more likely you'll get a pass on doing anything outside cultural norms, or even literally hurting others.
I’ve always experienced and witnessed snd researched the opposite being true for women. The more beautiful and desirable they are, the more they’re blamed for everything, including and perhaps especially, their own subjugation/rape/abuse.
Lol.
I literally had an argument with a friend about this yesterday.
Thanks
I know I don’t date, though I feel if someone doesn’t like you because your “too successful” or “too self sufficient” then it doesn’t seem that’s the type of person you should settle for when there is someone who would love all those qualities because that’s apart of who you are. Just my two cents.
LOL so glad I'm married. I could not imagine being single today. Dating was hard enough 20 years ago, it has only gotten harder. Props to anyone that is actually successful in finding love and having a lasting relationship today.
The Take has so much great and different content from my favorite shows. Are you planning on any more Euphoria videos?
Omg, I loved this so much! Wish I have had the opportunity to see this 5-10 years ago ♡
Respect to all the research and effort that goes into these videos 🙌
just something to think about for a video essay, basically how maybe it's time to retire the romance trope, Unrequited Love Switcheroo(or at best it needs some serious rewriting) because currently &basically, it gives off the same vibe as they won their love, after finally wearing them down, because reality wise it sounds very unlikely that kind of relationship could even end well,
As a genXer happily married for the last 25 yrs, I live in terror of the possibility of starting to date 🤢🤮
Robert Sternberg PhD defined "love"..as close as anyone.
Can you do more new girl videos since it's having a resurgence? Maybe on the appeal of nick miller since all the Jake johnson interviews are talking about it lol or one about ensemble casts/shows in general?
tbh, when you have so many rules u have to follow in doing something, it just becomes difficult or annoying. We do need some rules, but dating is supposed to be fun.
In HIMYM the "Rules" are fallowed when it's convenient. And... its the same in real life. Unfortunately. 🤣
man i miss this show
Great video!
You guys should do a video on girl code & guy code next!
There is absolutely 'rules' about desirability for men that they impose on themselves. It's often subtler though and not delivered for laughs. The jocks get the girls in high school is one of the first things that reinforced, that men need to be physically strong and act certain (often unhelpful) ways. I think sexism really harms both sexes
To paraphrase Captain Barbossa the rules, at best, are more of a guideline.
I think the fact that people are more complex than many are willing to admit is the same reason why most dating advice doesn't always work, they can improve your chances but like most things in life there's no guarantees when it comes to finding love.
Thank You for this instructive video Girls ✨❤💎
One episode which always grates me, is the one where Ted goes on a blind date with a woman, Jen, whom he had gone on another blind date with years before. At first, they think their date went nowhere because they didn't do things right, like Jen not laughing at Ted's joke or offering to pay for dinner and Ted not giving her his jacket, etc. They later remember that they clicked and liked each other a lot, making them wonder if they could be a good fit. Then, Ted realises that Jen not laughing at his joke was the deal breaker which made him not call her. It is sad that the show tries to convince itself that it makes sense for two compatible people to give up on getting to know each other better because they expect a partner to be instantly perfect.
If I remember right the lesson in that episode was how ridiculous Ted was to do that
@@mikemorro140 I always felt the lesson was that you don't have to compromise for "the one". The episode ends on narrator Ted saying that he told the Mother the same joke and she laughed though some of it was out of pity.
Why would you take anything he says seriously when his entire personality is attacking women?
You can't stop making HIMYM videos, can you? You're awesome, bro!
Ugh Barney is a rich handsome womanizer who floats through life he's a comic character someone you laugh at but secretly despise no one is Barney in real life Ugh
There are lots of Barney’s in real life. You be shocked
Dating apps are awful. Haven't found one that worked for me
Another great take! Can you make more on modern family?
Screw the olive rule.
My partner was always a picky eater before we got together (we've been friends for 20 years, together for 10 of them), and I will put anything in my pie hole. I always got to eat her peppers, mushrooms, artichoke hearts, olives, fishy fish and fish parts, and most vegetables or oddly spicy or flavored edible things.
Now she's getting *way* less picky, she loves foreign cuisine, and her favorite food is sushi. I love that we can share food rather than basically have two different meals, and whenever I eat something she doubts she'll like, she still wants to try it when I enjoy it.
To me, it shows that she values my opinion and trusts me when I recommend something.
My rule flys in the face of your rule, where I don't support a company that is guilty of abusing workers and wage theft, like hello fresh. Don't buy their shit.
Too bad ted didn't learn the same lessons barney did, the show creators kept rewarding him for bad behavior. I have to wonder now if Traci just started poisoning herself to escape ted because he is such a terrible narcissist, and the thought of being free of his controlling nature overrode her desires to protect their children from his toxic mentality
Some of the rules are good to follow. The Date time continuum, for example, which I learned in the hard way.
Let’s just all admit we know nothing about the other side and dating rules will always be critiqued through one owns eyes 🤷🏾♂️that’s it
Maybe it wasn't in Playbook, but one of rule in HIMYM- You may learn if gesture was romantic or creepy Only After. Like the way Lily hooked up with Marshall- all sheming with broken radio. The rules has exceptions.
Sometimes it's "Right action in right time", sometimes the way both partners worked it up.
I think Barney should’ve been with Nora she displayed everything Barney really wants like when she helps him get better but he was to scarred and self sabotage but falling back to Robyn who he thinks has everything he wants but she breaks his heart in the end twice we can see their relationship wouldn’t work when they first dated and made each other Miserable Robyn talks about right person wrong time in how I meet your father in this she was talking about Ted in how I met your father the year is 2022 when Ted did his flash backs he was already married and had kids at this time on how I met your mother my hope is that Nora and Barney got back together living in the house with vines on it with the pool
Only a fool would take any advice from a high functioning sociopath with deep intimacy issues
High functioning sociopath = Myth
Rules are good guidelines at the start but all rules have exceptions.
Do a HIMYF part 2
1:17 is how I spit game 😂
I'm not a native english speaker, i listened the narrator saying ANYWAYS, is that weel said?? Is it Anyway, or Anyways?
You forgot to include the "parlé is more a suggestion than a rule" from Pirates of the Caribbean
Unrelated, but you guys should a video about The Fallout on HBO Max. I’d say it’s up your alley.
Tracy invited Robin to their wedding and nothing happened. Well, but she showed herself in her wedding dress before the wedding. Everybody knows that is bad luck...
IDK, I helped officiate at one of my Ex's wedding and it was great.
the quality of this video was not up to par.
I don’t think all the rules were meant to be taken seriously. I wouldn’t call the show dated either. Watch anything from about before 2000 for comparison, id say most of that was dated and misogynistic.
The show was incredibly relevant, i believe i quoted the show every day for over a year as it was relevant in a conversation/situation. They delivered this in an exaggerated way that made it funny thus memorable. If we are to take the naked man seriously should we then also take the slap bets seriously? Are we going to say these depictions are a bad influence? Ppl will always find a way to blame their stupidity on others rather than take responsibility. This video sounded like it was not from a millennial or older, someone the show was just lost on.
Ppl tend to be tired after 2 am and so they tend not to make good decisions, it doesn’t mean they are excusing their behavior. If ur doing something important after two am u r prob being impulsive which is typically a bad idea as well.
Breaking News !!!! The only real “couple” in the show were you got it !!!! Lily and Marchal !!!!
Uh no. Although I love this couple, I find Lily and Marshall too co-dependent that it becomes unhealthy
hey in the end you talk about some rules for none dating you can follow to get a required result can I get some of them?
I see no rules in the world with can give me results?
To be fair, real world dating seems to follow a lot of the crazier ones.
Like of course it‘s kind of harmful to generalize but I think there are a lot of unwritten rules you have to follow (if you don‘t really know the person yet of course).
@@fridaherbst719 Each one of those you're imagining have been written already. And argued against afterwards, back and forth.
I love this movie so much...!
The hot/crazy chart is nauseating. People should just talk to each other. Designer relationships are the best.
Whole the ewok rule is flawed, both he and Nora still arrive at the right conclusion about them.
My rule for dating: don’t
“Rules” and common sense aren’t the sand thing though
The Playbook, not The Bro Code though
sigh I thought this would be a funny rundown of HIMYM playbook rules.
This was more analytical than I was in the mood for.
I call BS on 13:30 - 13:45. Taken out of context, this seems like Barney has reverse-engineered Anita's "no" strategy for his own gain. But, when the rest of the tale is included, we see that he declined because he made a promise to his ex, Robin, who he didn't notice he was hurting by his focus on bedding Anita.
I understand that you've a narrative you're pushing, and while there are many examples to support your thesis, this is not one of them.
p.s. and we're not going to discuss that it was Robin who put Anita in Barney's path, as some form of revenge? No? Cool.
If you watch 20:12 they circle back and address this
STILL waiting for the day people make videos calling out scott pilgrim and its alarming problematic behaviors and treatment of its female characters in both film and comic
im still waiting..
U can say what u want about Barney but u can't say he didn't have game lol
Barney's dating rules were Legendary !
yeah rape is so legendary!
You didn’t wait lol
@@hhhhhhhhhh1919 i think you have watched wrong show bro
@@hhhhhhhhhh1919 he never forced himself on anyone. His methods were questionable but he never pursued anyone who declined his advances. He promptly moved on to another girl or tried to show the one girl he liked that he indeed can be different. I.e. Nora, Robin and Quinn.
Stope trying to come across as woke, you are just lame 🥱
Also.. some rules DO work.
6:16 So.....red pilling? Barney was basically a Red Piller
People complain about dating apps but tell me how tf are we supposed to find a partner when we spent 2 years of our 20s inside?
Rule #2 = Rule #1 always changes.
Who is taking seriously rules written by a fictional caracter in a fictional setting? Nobody but this channel. Fascinating.
More than you'd believe did.
Culture reflects society. Maybe media analysis isn't for you.
@@KatiewithdaffodilsThat's true. I prefer art analysis. Or true sociology. Not that kind of half baked media analysis.
Lol whos the one who married robin tho … oh wait
Don't get me wrong but the mermaid rule from a certain standpoint does make sense
The past era was better. Chastity was better. Marriage actually meant something. Courtship instead of dating. Now it has gone from bad to worse to nightmarish.
*when negging doesn’t work*
Damn. I just lost The Game.
yeah but the 2am rule applies to women too
I realize that Barney is to HIMYM what Samantha is to SATC. At least this silly channel help me see that.
It wasn't suppose to be taken seriously, it's a joke. I even knew that at a young age(when it came out and I wasn't suppose to watch it)
yeah but lily is a litlle bit toxic so
Ted always proved barney wrong with his rules