Painting Mdf Panels Super Quick | The Fastest Way To Paint....Ever | Graco Airless Sprayer | EP#56
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- In this relatively short video, I spray 'Standard Mdf' panels with a Graco 695 ultra max airless sprayer @ 1600psi and with a 310 fine finish tip.
The paint I am spraying is a dulux diamond eggshell.
I show you my spraying technique to give you an awesome flat finish, plus lots of trade secrets and free tips to do this yourself!
At the end ill show you the finished results of both freshly sprayed pieces & fully finished pieces that have dried and completed.
Really worth a watch !
Ps - This one is dedicated to @10MinuteWorkshop .
Recently, I was informed that I ( The London Craftsman) was mentioned by Peter Millard in his early podcasts ( Measuring up podcast #003 ).
This was when I first started my channel and I had my old paint shed (& terrible in front of a camera!)
The shed has changed a bit or shall I say, been rebuilt and the paint shed has doubled in size to a professional spray booth.
Also a big thank you to Darren Page-Thomas aka DBT85 for making me aware of the podcast 👌👌👌
Enjoy everyone, Ryan
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Nice job, I'm a professional spray painter and I'm looking for a job, I live in London
They propane heater will destroy your work. Leaves residue on everything. Just a heads up. Trouble later in 1-2 years. Bond failure.
When spraying with 310FFLP tip, do you use black(60 mesh) or blue(100 mesh) gun filter?
It all depends on what paint you are spraying, just Google spray gun filter for the type you are using 👍
What paint did you use mate
Sorry for the late reply.
I'm not 100% sure without watching back the video 😂
It's either a silk or eggshell? These are the only 2 I generally use 👍
How long you waiting for second coat
Depends how warm it is but anywhere from an hour to 4 hours ish 😊👍
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Can you use oil based undercoat instead of acrylic primer on the edges?
I guess you could but the drying time would be alot longer
Fab, Thanks very much
this looks amazing. Whatever primer or finish i use, my mdf grains keep popping up like crazy...drives me nuts
Why not try a paint I'm using at the moment... call Casper or Rob @ Amicus UK.
I'm using a 1k paint and it's pretty amazing.
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Unfortunately not a UK resident. Is it the dulux diamond you're refering to? I'm using Sigma Tigron Aqua primer and finish.
@ChrasMirtin Ahh I didn't think...
Yes this is diamond eggshell and it sprays very nice through my airless sprayer 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I don’t think they sell it here (Belgium). I will look for it and give it a try. This is my first project using an airless (graco) sprayer so the problem could very well just be me ;-). Thanks a lot for taking your time to answer my comments. I’ve picked up a lot from your videos!
@ChrasMirtin Ahh I see, I thought Dulux was sold everywhere...🤷♂️ you could use normal eggshell from dulux, or johnstones or even another good quality brand 👍
And thank you that's kind of you to say 😊👍
How long do you usually wait once one face has had its 3rd coat to then apply the final 2 coats on the other face. I am finding that once i have finished my final 3rd coat. When its on the drying rack it slightly sticks and i get lines in the finish from the racking bars. Same racking setup as you.
Sorry for late reply.
At least a few days, but this sometimes happens.
Just move the components regularly (2-3 times a day) should help
wow the edges are so smooth, what do you use to seal the edge to give that smooth finish on your paint? i have searched whole week on youtube trying to find the answer , but most demo from youtubers, the edges arent impressive at all, any tips on edge sealing?
Hi if you watch video #91 and #92 that should my techniques 👍👍👍
Hey Ryan. What paint do you recommend for top and primer for mdf using a graco sprayer
Hi Dean,
I used to use a standard acrylic waterbased primer/undercoat but now I use the silk.
I also use silk for the tops coats 75% of the time if a white finish but also use johnstones eggshell too.
All work really well tbh in my opinion 😊👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop so diamond eggshell as the primer and top coat?
@deancarter4109 I've tried that before and it works, but at this time I generally use the silk as the primer
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop do you have to mix with 10% water to go through the sprayer
@deancarter4109 no not with an airless.
Start with around 1800 psi and work your way up until you get a nice pattern 👍
Hey lovely presentation thank you for sharing, one question please I have how about airless assisted, where do you think this stay between airless and hvlp ? in term of atomization and speed compare , but more about automation and finish quality because at the end there is enough time for spray compared to preparation that take a lot of time , thank you pretty much
Hi are you asking about air assisted airless, or just airless??
Thank you also 👍👍👍
Great video mate.... What brand is your airless sprayer?
A graco 695 this one is 👍
Another great video Ryan, what hose are you using between your spray gun and pump? 3/16 or 1/4?
Thanks mike!
Tbh I don't know, I can take a look later but I'm leaning towards the 3/16.
How long do you normally leave between coats
I can get away with an hour or so, with the heater on each coat dries within 20 -40 mins in guessing.
Don't forget to send me your address to send those tape measures to you
Not sure if you got the youtube post saying you won
When spray painting from above and moving side to side, do you hold the trigger down for the entire time? Or release and pull the trigger when moving in new direction?
for most flat panels i dont let go of the trigger, I dont see the point.
I just move as fast as I can once im off the component so I waste as little as poss.
thank you for the reply =)@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
I have a question for you. When you cut all the panels then spray how much the size of the panel will increase after painting. To take in consideration for the final fitting. For the gap between panels or drawers fronts. Thank you
Hi, even though it goes on thick and you can do 3-4 coats, it still it only very thin and I never take anything off the panel size to be honest.
If your worried about it then an absolute max of 0.5mm off. But I really wouldn't bother and I've never had problems with this.
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Thank you for taking your time to get back with a answer. All the best
How much are you watering the paint down brother
Nothing at all, I never have 👍
So you don’t bother with undercoat? 3 coats of eggshell and it’s good to go? I’m about to get into spraying myself.
Yes, give it a go just one coat of eggshell, let it dry and sand it up with p240 on an orbital and it works a treat, ill even say its better than an under coat
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I’ll give that a go. Cheers. 👍🏻
Hi mate. I know this is an older video but hopefully you’ll still get the notification and have time to reply. I’m about to spray my sons fitted wardrobe. Never done it before but I’m a quick learner 🤞 I’ve prepped everything, taped everywhere, the doors are MDF. I’ve just got a Wagner 350m. I know it’s not a big professional unit but it’s good for what I’m doing at home. Couple of questions please.
1- you didn’t use primer? Just johnstones eggshell water based trade print is that right?
2- My topcoat will be light gray. What’s the best paint for my topcoat in your opinion.
Thanks in advance.
Hi my way is a johnstones waterbased eggshell 3 coats in total, no primer.
Not to say that primer would be recommended by alot of people. But this technique does works very well on my opinion 👍👍👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop thanks for your reply. I’ve gone with a MDF primer, and valspar gold mid sheen in action figure grey. Time will tell.
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I've been watching your videos for a few years now and you used to use an acrylic primer, what made you change? Maybe an up to date video on what your latest techniques are as they have clearly evolved over time. e.g. sealing edges on MDF from Zinsser to filler, undercoat to straight finish coat etc. Keep up the good work. Ta!
@@Glentp75 In part its the cost with the Zinnser stuff? I'm using this Johnstones durable acrylic eggshell
Hi, thanks for the vid. Any suggestion how to prevent the “paint dust” on the bottom side when spraying the edges? Often the already finished bottom side is ruined because of this. 😤 Cheers!
Hi im not sure if your using an airless sprayer or hvlp sprayer but I never have problems with my airless sprayer.
If anything, spray your edges from higher than the work piece rather than online with it, but like I said I never really have problems with this 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I’m using a HVLP sprayer. I might try decreasing the pressure first. Never had this problem before either. Using acid catalyzed paint.
Thanks for you videos, really informative. I see you're using a 310 tip, how much do you dilute the paint? You must need to thin it down at least 30% I reckon?
What paint was used?
I cant remember tbh, likely a silk emusion I think
Brill thanks for info mate. I am using airless and just trying to figure out how much i can load stuff up flat, i do really like using it more than i expected for stuff like this. I don't have a booth mind. Doing it all on site.
It's all trial and error, I was the same when I started but with more and more experience it just gets easier.
Now it's just natural to.me how.much to put on with one coat, but go for less per coat rather than more, or you'll get pooling in a split second
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop yeah definitely have experienced a couple of runs and stuff. I will figure it out sooner or later :) i think it is easier to be quicker on smaller panels for some reason.
Great video Ryan. I’m only just starting to branch out into fitted furniture and have just got myself a 2nd hand Graco ultra handheld airless sprayer.
Tbh I’m not likely to do much spraying in my small shop (if it takes off I’ll get a bigger shop or outsource the spraying element of the work), but so far so goo - flawless finish, just taking a while to sty in a cold shop 😖. Any experience with these handheld sprayers?
I havmt had too much with the hand helds but funnily enough I just bought one this morning, a graco ultra max.
Should be exactly the same finish as a larger machine regarding finishes.
Down side is they don't spray tons before the pump needs replacing but still 200 liters per pump is still a decent amount.
Get a diesel/kerosene space heater, these are a god send for me and allow my pieces to dry within 20 or 30 mins
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop strange coincidence 😃, I’ve got the ultra which is exactly the same as the Max but water based only. Unfortunately I rent a commercial space and can’t use diesel/kerosene heaters only electric which cost a fortune 😖. Got a couple if halogen heaters but still a struggle in the winter. Let me know how you get on with the Ultra Max, a video would be a good punt I think.....
I’d love a go at that.
Was this before you started using silk as primer? Great video
Tbh I can't remember this video without watching it back 🤣
I've used silk for a long time, I just sometimes play around with other paints and experiment 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop thanks, do you get the silk tinted if spraying with darker colours etc?
No I use eggshell then, just go to paint shed and order a johnstones waterbased eggshell in whatever colour you want
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop nice, so you will use eggshell as your primer instead of the silk?
Great finish using the diamond eggshell, and on a standard mdf board 👌🏾 would the finish be any better with a Mr mdf ?
Tbh I've tried both types lots of times and I havmt noticed much difference.
I'm leaning toward saying it should be better but I've not seen the differences in my experience doing it.
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop good to know 👍🏾loving the videos and the work , ur giving me lots of tips as I'm just getting into spraying keep up the good work guys ...
That drying rack is genius
Thank you!
awesome content! do you think spraying water based top coat as a primer would be a good idea and have no issue if the room setting is right?
It works for me 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop cheers mate - i'm going to give it a shot!
Hi want to learn about spraying, do you need to water down the primer coat or thin or just use straight from the tin, thanks great vid
Absolutely spot on finish Ryan. 👌🏻
Thank you ! 👍
Need a rack build vid 👍👍
Do you sand Inbetween top coats?
Just the one sand between first coat and second 👍
Very good setup 👍
I can see you appreciate your trade brother ❤️
Thanks very much 👍
Get a turn table !
I have one already
Always good to watch, I'm a HVLP sprayer of furniture myself and always good to see tips on spraying in general, nice work
Thanks Paul, glad it helps.
Interesting that you have a propane heater in the area one of the problems is when you burn propane water vapor is produced . have found in the past this has caused mico blistering after a few months .
Hi, yes it doesnt seem to do anything in my sprayroom, not even cause condensation on the windows.
Really useful content as usual Ryan, does your fan extraction pipes just run out into the garden, and could you tell me if much paint actually comes out at the other end, the reason I’m asking is because I’m about to make a small unit I rent on an industrial estate into a spray booth and my extraction pipe will site just outside the door in full view, I don’t want people kicking off about fumes/smell of paint etc.
Also, I tried finding you on buy me a coffee to subscribe but couldn’t find you ?, keep up the good work mate, appreciated 👍
Thanks maty!
Yes the fans just exhaust to outside, there is a small space between the wall and the outside fence and there is a small amount of overspray that gets through.
You could always have another filter on the outside to combat that.
I just use water and oil based (99% of the time water based) as I dont want any smell.
I am on buy me a coffee mate, I think its under my name ryan cooper, not sure if the link takes you there in the description.👍
Was thinking you could also use 2 or 3 filters inside rather than one to stop the overspray getting through eventually 👍