The BEST Way to Paint and Seal MDF Edges - Video #3

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  • Опубликовано: 27 май 2017
  • I recently posted a video showing you how to get a really smooth finish on your MDF edges - using wood filler.
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    The problem is that this is quite a long-winded job, and as one of my viewers recently voiced in a comment below the video, "imagine doing all this work to 5 closets each 6-8 doors which are 8ft high and 2ft wide. This is just crazy amount of work. There has to be a better way!"
    This got me thinking. There are so many opinions on the internet on how best to paint MDF edges, but none of them are backed up with objective demonstration, and so I thought, wouldn't it be good if I prepared some MDF edges with all the possible options, so that I CAN DECIDE WHICH ONE IS BEST.
    So this is exactly what I've done in this video. I've prepared a mock up with 5 edges, prepared as follows:
    - oil based undercoat and top coat
    - water based undercoat and top coat
    - slightly watered down PVA bond, with a water based undercoat and top coat
    - wood filler, followed by water based undercoat and top coat
    - MDF edging tape followed by water based undercoat and top coat
    MY CONCLUSIONS
    The best solution is the MDF edging tape - which produces a really smooth finish, closely followed by the wood filler.
    But both of these involve quite a lot of hassle.
    What was really interesting was that the oil based solution didn't produce a noticeably better finish than the water based wood primer undercoat and top coat, and the PVA primer didn't make any noticeable difference when compared with the edges that had just been primed and top coated.
    So in summary, if you're a professional woodworker and want a truly professional, smooth finish, then filling or treating the edges with edging tape is the way to go.
    But for all the rest of us, you get a perfectly acceptable finish by simply treating the edges with a wood primer undercoat, followed by a top coat - like I did here! goo.gl/7ohVg2
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  • @CharlieDIYte
    @CharlieDIYte  2 года назад +3

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  • @Ravenlock1993
    @Ravenlock1993 4 года назад +6

    i know it's an old video, but just for the people who see this now and who are wondering, i dont know is Albastien goes for every country, but i got a wood filler of Albastine which not only makes the mdf edges smooth as glass, you can also paint it after 15-30 minutes, only downside it that if u arent skilled using it, it can take an hour to seal the edges of a small project. but it really is worth it!

  • @tboneproductions2453
    @tboneproductions2453 7 лет назад +15

    Thank you sir for taking the time demonstrate the different methods. Much appreciated

  • @RicOrnelas
    @RicOrnelas 5 лет назад +25

    Here in El Salvador I learned from the local woodworkers the use of sealer with industrial talc to treat edges of MDF. It creates a super smooth finish.

    • @greenspotjorecycling6965
      @greenspotjorecycling6965 3 года назад +1

      Same thing is used here in Jordan, I'm keep getting this advice from everyone one around me, but I keep using the method I'm used for which is applying NC wood filler after NC primer then sand it then applying final finish... I think I will try the NC clear coat sealer next time!

  • @johnmasi6929
    @johnmasi6929 7 лет назад +6

    Great video. Really like your approach to issues. Based on your evidence I took the sanding/water-based primer/light sanding/water-based finish route on an MDF project this week and I am very pleased with the results. So thank you. I am now studying your videos on plasterboard fixings and anticipate asking you a question on that scary subject!

  • @p.r.robson7408
    @p.r.robson7408 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing this. It was just what I was looking for to help me determine which way to go with sealing my MDF shelf. I like that you categorized options in accordance with how professional a job the person is after. Now I'm off to find some MDF tape!

  • @dirkryan5962
    @dirkryan5962 5 лет назад +19

    for anyone interested, the way i've dealt w/ MDF edges in the past was to substitute drywall mud instead of a wood filler. i prefer drywall mud because it's easier to apply and sand and the finish is really smooth.

    • @zg9xUmvV
      @zg9xUmvV 4 года назад +1

      which one do you use?

  • @itsroger
    @itsroger 7 лет назад +4

    I have a large diy project and your videos have helped me to make up my mind to the best approach. Many thanks

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  7 лет назад

      Rogers Digital World You're very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment - it means a lot!

  • @waynebooker498
    @waynebooker498 4 года назад +8

    Shellac sanding sealer, two coats. Sand to 220 grit. Paint.

  • @Rose-vs5jd
    @Rose-vs5jd 5 лет назад +8

    Thanks for an interesting video. After many years of DIY, I have found it best to use oil paint on any mdf edges that are likely to come into contact with water on occasion (eg kitchen cabinet or bathroom vanity bases).

  • @device222
    @device222 4 года назад +8

    Great Video Charlie. I've been using glue size for years on miles of mdf edges for trims. 50/50 mix white glue and water. Apply to sanded edge, let dry and then sand out with 220. It comes up like glass and gives you a super smooth finish. I use zinsser bin or more recently zinsser cover stain oil based that dries in 1 hr. Benjamin moore advance with a painting pad for finish coats. Basically a
    factory finish in no time.

    • @mickez3993
      @mickez3993 2 года назад +1

      I got a few unused tite bond wood glue bottles laying around would that seal MDF? im not looking for a perfect finish just something that will last.

    • @alexwhitby9626
      @alexwhitby9626 2 года назад

      going to give this ago always do wood filler methord but its time consumming

  • @brettaylor2661
    @brettaylor2661 5 лет назад +5

    Great video. Thank you for this. I like the tape but since I usually put a roundover on stuff it might be problematic. I think I’ll try the wood filler next.

  • @pyotrleflegin7255
    @pyotrleflegin7255 5 лет назад +1

    You have a fascinating channel here - thank you. Just one point you might like to hear; when my wife and I were a lot younger we used to do quite a bit of DIY with faced board and edging strip, which was easier to get hold of then and much cheaper. We found that a layer of clean brown paper between the edging and the electric iron kept the iron cleaner and made a better job all round. Then you could take a wooden block and really polish the join without risking any transfer of unwanted material such as paint.

  • @Bass-guitarist
    @Bass-guitarist 6 лет назад +5

    This was great! Just about to embark on a small mdf project! Thank you so much for all your efforts.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад +1

      senseislayer You're very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

  • @jamesdowden5801
    @jamesdowden5801 6 лет назад

    Used the iron on edging tape, well worth the effort. I have used this method in the past with mixed results but this time followed your advice and sanded down to the edge with excellent results. Thanks for the tip. Not on this video but also used the lost tite screw you recommend, another fantastic product. Your tips are saving me hours of experimentation.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Cheers James - really appreciate the feedback. I agree - the iron on tape is by far the best finish!

  • @robduncan599
    @robduncan599 5 лет назад +5

    As a painter & decorator since leaving school 1978 , i started using acrylic primer/undercoat ,long ago 30+ years . I agree with your conclusion prime with acrylic sand ,2nd coat acrylic , then finish . This is by far the quickest and easiest with good results , simple as . Thanks for the video .

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the comment, Rob. It's always great to hear from a pro painter on these matters!

    • @robduncan599
      @robduncan599 5 лет назад

      @@CharlieDIYte : Thanks for taking the time to reply , i'm sure you are very busy , i just came across your video , then had a look at some more , i see you now favor methylated spirit paint , i used this for a few years before i switched to acrylic , it is indeed fast dry this is a big plus , but i had a hard time sourcing it way back in the 80s so i gave up , i'll maybe give it another go . Tks again tu & sub

  • @soulcandyalmadulce5885
    @soulcandyalmadulce5885 3 года назад

    Great video, clearly spoken, wonderful comparisons. Much appreciated.

  • @verlicht
    @verlicht 5 лет назад +6

    Trimming the edges of iron-on edge finishers is easily done with the back side of a chisel, use the 90° metal edge at a 45° angle on the edges and press/push the edges off. No razors involved and a lot faster. 5 seconds a running meter. Bad edge finish needs a few seconds of sanding, but if you use a high quality product, you don't even need sanding.

  • @GeorgeIreton
    @GeorgeIreton 6 лет назад +1

    Outstanding video. Great instruction. Precisely what I need to know! Thank you!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Thanks George - really appreciate that, and thanks for taking the time to let me know!!

  • @hassleoffa
    @hassleoffa 6 лет назад +1

    I've been using automotive body filler (Bondo) no-fibre for years. I also have access to high build primer then sand it, and spray top coats.

  • @williambell3041
    @williambell3041 5 лет назад +3

    50/50 wood glue/water works great. I applied 1 coat followed by light sanding. I sprayed with a can of spray paint and got a perfectly smooth finish.

  • @engarak
    @engarak 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this video! I'm doing a weekend DIY type of project (arcade cabinet repair) and used some MDF in parts and was looking at all the ways to seal it up for personal use. This guide gave me JUST what I needed, thanks so much!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  7 лет назад

      anew32 You're very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment - I really appreciate it!

  • @MicSokol
    @MicSokol 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you very much for the very good video. As for the tape you can buy it in appropriate size-no need to trim it, actually there are machines who attach it for you....

  • @Guyontables
    @Guyontables 6 лет назад

    thanks charlie great video, up north here in the auto body industry what you refer to as modelling we call orange peel. modelling was when metallic paint was sprayed on to wet then the metals in the paint would pool together causing darker colors in the paint. i have always wanted to use mdf but turned away from mdf because of the edge factor but you have changed my mind, thanks making two princess bed head boards know for my grand daughters.

  • @gasgiant7122
    @gasgiant7122 4 года назад

    Great demonstrational video. I'm making ply carcasses for a caravan kitchen so I'm thinking of going for the wood filler to treat the exposed edges of the ply

  • @shapiemau2244
    @shapiemau2244 8 месяцев назад

    Great video Charlie, thank you. I usually use a water based primer and a top coat/s when I work with mdf. It saves me time and produces a very good finish. I have used special mdf primers too which are expensive and do not really give results that are that outstanding to warrant use over a normal wood primer.

  • @TheLondonForever00
    @TheLondonForever00 6 лет назад +1

    I've using Zinsser Gardz for years to seal mdf end grain. The paint flows nicely on top of it and it makes the end grain solid.

    • @kevinjackson5191
      @kevinjackson5191 6 лет назад

      Hi, doesn't the zinser product have to be used in one go once the tin has been opened? i know you do with certain other zinser products.

  • @deborahr4389
    @deborahr4389 4 года назад

    very helpful video, i'm very new to diy woodwork and want to try my hand with mdf so this has put all my concerns to bed about how best to seal the mdf...thanks

  • @johnfithian-franks8276
    @johnfithian-franks8276 6 лет назад +1

    An interesting result, I think I will go with the water based pain, as you said it is much easier to clean the brushes after

  • @davemccracken6436
    @davemccracken6436 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the effort to help duffers like me! This will help me to be comfortable using the water based for my needs!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Dave McCracken You're welcome Dave. Thanks for the comment!

  • @gilespierce7523
    @gilespierce7523 6 лет назад +39

    I get 100% perfect MDF edges using only paint. As a test I glued 3 layers of 18mm together. When painted you couldn't tell which edge was the endgrain and which wasn't.
    First I prime with a shellac based primer. I use Zinnser BIN. It dries incredibly quickly - touch dry on MDF in about 2 - 5 minutes. Its expensive but a little goes a long way. Leave to dry, and give it a light sand. Then for edges I do a second coat of primer, and then again sand. Then two top coats of water based satin paint, and every edge surface is as silky and smooth as the faces.
    Yes, the primer is expensive. And yes, that's 4 coats instead of 3. But the conclusion in the video is if you want super smooth edges, the best they can be, you need to go to the effort of applying and trimming edging tape or applying two part filler and sanding it on every edge. This method is better than either of those and every bit as perfect in its result.

    • @PGTROMP
      @PGTROMP 4 года назад

      Spot on 👍

    • @codaroma
      @codaroma 3 года назад +1

      MDF has edge grain on all 4 edges so I am not sure what you mean?

  • @kamleo1685
    @kamleo1685 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks, Charlie for an interesting video. Another important consideration is durability. MDF needs protection; especially, in areas where the edge will encounter impact with objects such as dishes, canned goods, people, etc. Over time the edges will show little bits being chipped off. The iron-on edging gets my vote. It provides both a smooth surface and an added layer of protection.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Thanks Kam. I think on balance you're probably right, and it provides by far the best finish.

  • @jamessanders482
    @jamessanders482 6 лет назад

    Great video, the way I cut my edgebanding is flip board over , edge band down , glue up, run a sharp razor knife along edge and walla! Perfect edge

    • @rafezetter8003
      @rafezetter8003 4 года назад

      "Voila" - it's french. google "walla" it doesn't mean what you think it does.

  • @noureddine309
    @noureddine309 6 лет назад +1

    Many thanks . Very helpful tips.

  • @shifty277
    @shifty277 7 лет назад +1

    Great video, nicely set up and demonstrated. Thanks.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  7 лет назад

      +Ryan Cooper Thanks Ryan - much appreciated!

  • @adamandlorraine
    @adamandlorraine 7 лет назад +1

    My 2p worth. Use a pre cat high build primer. Solvent based if you want quick dry. Morrells do one called MDF sealer. Dries super quick. Cons, strong smell vapour.

  • @lungthumpa
    @lungthumpa 7 лет назад +6

    PVA all day for me, 2-3 coats with a 400-600 sand in between coats gets a gloss finish everytime and 10L PVA is £6

  • @Bwanar1
    @Bwanar1 6 лет назад

    Nice video. There is a banding trimmer like a Plane but a "V" that works very well. Fastest way that doesn't require more work is to you a trim router. You can use a flush or bevel bit.

  • @cezaryladocha9125
    @cezaryladocha9125 5 лет назад +1

    Great comparison, very useful.

  • @ChrisUhlik
    @ChrisUhlik 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent scientific approach. I really like your demonstration --- so much better than unsubstantiated claims. Thank-you for making the world a better place!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Thanks Chris - I really appreciate that!

  • @planchernewfinish
    @planchernewfinish 5 лет назад +1

    I used Carver Urania alchool base varnish and does a really good job. The advantage is that its catylised , so it dries in about 30 min.

  • @geoffbutler7739
    @geoffbutler7739 6 лет назад +10

    I had an epiphany last night after I watched this video. It was about 4am and I woke with the thought what if I combine some of the best tips and make a primer that does all of the above.
    I mixed Fine Surface polyfilla (Fine Plaster powder) with MDF Primer, and a little water to mix to a creamy consistency. Not sure of the quantities but about 20% filler with 80% paint.
    I brushed this on to the edge of the board and left for a couple of hours. After sanding with 240 grit paper the end result was glass smooth. Similar to the finish with the wood filler.
    Give it a try you won't be disapointed

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад +2

      That is really interesting Geoff - the image of you doing that reminds me of Roald Dahl's George's Marvellous Medicine! I can't think of any downsides to this except perhaps the durability of it (will it be a bit brittle - probably not?) / it's adhesion to the mdf, although I guess the adhesion is no worse than any of the other options - because you've got the primer in the mix to help it sink in. I might give this a go. I'm also wondering about the Zinsser Bulls Eye 123 which a lot of people seem to use to seal mdf (though I suspect this isn't massively different to any other primer, when combined with the right top coat) - I feel another video coming on!
      Massive thanks for the comment and great work!!

    • @RandomShart
      @RandomShart 4 года назад

      @@CharlieDIYte I'm completely in love with Zinsser, I use 123 as an undercoat mainly because of how easy it is to go on, the range of substrates it will adhere too, many without sanding and how super quick it dries for next coat. Perfect when dealing with changeable British weather if working outside on bigger pieces.
      Since 123 they've also released Zinsser Allcoat, a self priming gloss paint for interior and exterior use. One product that does everything. I used it to do every wooden window (outer) on my house, some 2 coats but most 3 due to poor condition of original woodwork needing striping and filling in many places. Again goes on amazingly well and dries so quickly. It's been 6 months and still looking good and standing up nicely to all the oak trees doing their best to stain my windows!

  • @1945sas
    @1945sas 5 лет назад +5

    For finishing glued on edge use a laminate edge trimmer. Cuts both sides simultaneously.

  • @MaydaysCustomWoodworks
    @MaydaysCustomWoodworks 6 лет назад

    They also have MDF trimmers. They cut both sides at the same time. I have used a utility knife with some practice as well.

  • @deejy232
    @deejy232 Год назад

    Very good video - just what I was looking for thank you!

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 6 лет назад +4

    Interesting with that MDF tape. I've never seen it in the US. Will look for it now. A regular edge banding trimmer should work well with it.

  • @MarkMiller-zm2th
    @MarkMiller-zm2th 6 лет назад

    Ahhhhh MDF, the material that's just waiting to bite back when you apply finish hahaha. Great video, it'll help a lot. Thanks mate.

    • @HypocrisyLaidBare
      @HypocrisyLaidBare 3 года назад +2

      Plus his ratio of pva to water was way off.
      Pva is far too thick to soak into the fibres unless let down with water to 4:1 pva : water. A drip of water was pointless adding it.
      I swear by pva on the whole mdf project helps repel water/ moisture from the bottom coat up.
      Like you said Mark Miller coat, dry, sand repeat only i add a third coat of 6:1 pva to finish. I start at 3:1 then 4:1 finally a 6:. This gives a totally non-absorbant end grain on mdf edges.
      After all if you've taken the time and effort to measure cut joint and assemble something why rush to finish it and ruin its appearance?
      Finishing should be the slowest and most time consuming after all its the FINAL FINISH! get it right, take your time

  • @colindgrant
    @colindgrant 6 лет назад +3

    This is great. Lots of fear out there about water based anything and MDF. Nice to see that water based primer isn't a big deal, even on the edges. I've used oils, varnishes, and marine coatings but brand new to water based painting. I'm loving it so far, especially the cleanup. Heading out to acrylic-prime some MDF now!

  • @malgozata1875
    @malgozata1875 7 лет назад +1

    this is a brilliant idea. Thank you very much for doing this for the rest of us. Thumbs up!

  • @sixmachine40
    @sixmachine40 6 лет назад +1

    Good tips I have always just flooded with water based and sanded and repeat until smooth. I always spray. I will try some of these

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Drizy Bigsix i am iron bored man lol.duane Thanks. Let me know how you get on!

  • @darinsmith9468
    @darinsmith9468 3 года назад +1

    You should try a white-tinted shellac primer. Zinsser BIN comes to mind. You can do multiple coats knocking down nibs between incredibly quickly because it is alcohol carried and therefore dries amazingly fast. You therefore get a great edge seal, a good amount of build, and ability to smooth it multiple times. Works incredibly well and is my preferred choice. If you do go a filler route, something that works even better than wood filler is Bondo glazing putty. It goes on faster & easier, dries much faster, and is easier to knock down. You get a perfect edge. But it's a lot more fussy than just sealing with shellac-based primer.

  • @MsBrainmuffin
    @MsBrainmuffin 5 лет назад +3

    A really nice way to do mdf edges is buy a roll of iron on veneer edge tape with a more closed
    grain like maple or cherry, iron on sand the edge seal and paint. The glue on the back of the tape acts like a sealer so you don't need as much spray sealer. It will look beautiful.

  • @peteypops
    @peteypops 3 года назад +2

    For mdf patches showing through a top surface, I seal with cyanoacrylate. Water based paints will keep swelling the exposed fibres and they need to be fixed before continuing with smoothing and painting

  • @jeffalley4417
    @jeffalley4417 5 лет назад +1

    I really enjoy your videos. You save people HOURS and money. Your interaction with views is also incredible. Good karma my friend

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  5 лет назад

      Cheers Jeff. Really appreciate that mate! Sometimes wonder why I'm doing it but you guys keep me going with comments like that and who knows, one day I may even be able to do it full time. 🤔

  • @johnsnooks1874
    @johnsnooks1874 4 года назад +1

    You should be on TV fella.Great presentation, and succinct.Keep it up.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  4 года назад +1

      Thanks John, I really appreciate that! 👍

  • @jwdupuy2
    @jwdupuy2 4 года назад

    Interesting video and nice result. I wonder if the edge banding will hold up to scratches?
    I find that Kilz spray primer works best since it builds up. 2 or 3 coats then sand for a satin smooth finish. It's also very easy to sand.

  • @jonjoem-walton7381
    @jonjoem-walton7381 4 года назад +4

    Shellac is the way forward. I used to use a couple of the methods above but shellac sanding sealer then paint is 100% the way to go in my opinion.

  • @orbepa
    @orbepa 6 лет назад +1

    Very useful video - thank you Charlie

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Paul O You're very welcome Paul, thanks for the comment!

  • @TheJunkyardgenius
    @TheJunkyardgenius 7 лет назад +1

    Great video. you can get a single or double sided trimmer for around a tenner for trimming the edging tape but I don't have one, I've found putting the board flat hanging off the edge of your table or bench and using 25mm or bigger chisel works the best. Thanks for the mention, I like when you tubers actually say where they got their info from. keep up the good videos.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  7 лет назад

      TheJunkyardgenius Thanks for the comment. Yes I can see a chisel would do a much cleaner job! Out of interest have you ever had a problem with the edging tape peeling off? This would seem to be the only potential flaw with what is otherwise a great product. Thanks again for the tip!

    • @TheJunkyardgenius
      @TheJunkyardgenius 7 лет назад +1

      I haven't no, like all iron on tapes, if the iron wasn't hot enough, left on long enough to melt the glue or pressed on properly it would not bond correctly but I personally have never had any issue with it. I just wish I had found this stuff sooner. Most things I make use mdf because of the great paint finish you get on it and I think back to the time wasted sanding, filling or painting and sanding again on hundreds of flat panel kitchen cabinet doors for people over the years. This edging and buying a small electric paint sprayer changed my life and made things so much better and quicker.

  • @stevenreynolds2580
    @stevenreynolds2580 6 лет назад +2

    have you tried sander sealer, as base coat, I use it to do all my grand children's toys makes painting so much quicker.
    also fills end-grain nicely much less hassle.
    works for me

    • @jed2055
      @jed2055 4 года назад +2

      Good question Steven and the above video by Charlie does not in fact use every conceivable method of sealing MDF. In fact I watched a US video on sealing and that guy used a vinyl sealer made by Monster. I use a Feast Watson product called Sanding Sealer so that's 2 more methods of preparing MDF for painting!

  • @brianhyams127
    @brianhyams127 2 года назад +1

    Good video. When trimming edging on furniture boards, I use a really sharp chisel - easier to control than a knife blade, and avoid cutting yourself. I would probably do the same with the mdf tape when I give it a go!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  2 года назад

      Thanks Brian. I agree that's a better option, and of course there are edge banding trimmers that make the job even easier 👍

  • @w.spencerinteriorsbespokec5588
    @w.spencerinteriorsbespokec5588 4 года назад +1

    The thing with this is that you actually want to fur up the edges with the primer, it’s the sanding prep of the primer that determines your finish, your issue is not preparing the edges prior to priming, sand MDF edges to 320g before priming, 600g post priming. If you want a professional finish add a sealer coat before priming. I also would not use a roller to apply the edge paint

  • @iamthewelcher
    @iamthewelcher 6 лет назад +13

    I use about a 50/50 mix of wood glue and water. First coat raises 'grain' and seals for second coat. Quick knock down sand after 1st coat dries. Apply second coat, sand smooth . ..so easy to sand. Finishes smooth as you could ever want!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      Cheers for that. I'll give that a try next time!

    • @user-zq6pj5jo8j
      @user-zq6pj5jo8j 6 лет назад +1

      Wood Glue is PVA, So same thing...just maybe a bit cheaper..:) "Gorilla Wood Glue, a PVA glue, offers the benefits of an easy-to-use water based adhesive. "

    • @jasonenz4238
      @jasonenz4238 6 лет назад +2

      iamthewelcher - that's what I was about to say lol. Dries super fast and everything is usually right there on the bench. I work in a super high end NYC custom woodworking shop and that's how we do most of the MDF edges :)
      I love mdf!

    • @exquisiteremodeling1
      @exquisiteremodeling1 6 лет назад

      is the glue you use Titebond 2?

    • @StLaparole
      @StLaparole 6 лет назад

      Yep best results and makes for a super hard durable edge, too. And it makes sense if you think about it- MDF it´s just dust bonded with Glue, so you´re not adding a third Component. I prefer waterproof glue for that, so whatever happens, you´re super safe. And since you are not depending on the adhesive properties of the glue but want to use it as a mere primer, you can easily mix it 40/60 glue and water so it penetrates easier.

  • @michaelashelford637
    @michaelashelford637 5 лет назад

    For trimming the edging tape buy your self an old blade from a planer machine (the ones you had to sharpen). Run it down the MDf nice and flat. Perfect trim.

  • @ChrisMum
    @ChrisMum 6 лет назад

    Thanks very much for the video, very informative. I have one question, my joiner routed the edges of the fronts of my doors, does this alter the advice above?

  • @troyclayton
    @troyclayton Год назад

    I prime all MDF with a pigmented shellac, I like BIN. It offers the most protection from moisture intrusion and the formation of 'blisters' and fat edges over the years. I struggled for years with latex and oil primers and still having some stuff expand due to moisture intrusion. BIN fixed that for me. I'll be doing it tomorrow. For cut material, I BIN the cuts, sand, and repeat. One coat over everything and it's ready for finishing. That's all it takes for me.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  Год назад

      I agree. BIN for all priming for me these days. Sands beautifully too. ruclips.net/video/763yQg0Euwc/видео.html

  • @zhaiken6607
    @zhaiken6607 4 года назад

    Hi Charlie, thanks for this great video, there is a lot of information in it. Can I also use builders bog as a choice of sealer? Even on large MDF panels?

  • @barrycrump6189
    @barrycrump6189 3 года назад

    An excellent demonstration - thank you.
    I'm having to build up the bottom legs of a number of MDF radiator covers (why are they all 82 cm high?) by about 7 cm. I was thinking of either using MDF or simply creating a former for a 2-part wood filler to create the extra high - I know this can be readily sanded down to a very smooth finish. I will be doing this before assembling them as they come in a flat-pack - any suggestions on the viability of using a former that will be easy to remove from the wood filler once it is dry?

  • @kevintennant4461
    @kevintennant4461 6 лет назад

    i have been a joiner for years and have always used a wood glue mix with water but you need to sand after first coat and give a second coat and sand again then prime and you will get a glass like finish

  • @MohammedAli-vo8hq
    @MohammedAli-vo8hq 6 лет назад +1

    i think the fastcap trimming kit and maybe white mdf edging will serve best.
    Thank you for the video.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  6 лет назад

      +Mohammed Ali Yes, definitely gives you the best finish!

  • @clivebrooker1
    @clivebrooker1 6 лет назад +1

    Great video, did you think about using one of the specific MDF primer/sealers, I see that there are two for sale at Toolstation. Would be interesting to see if they work better than ordinary primer.

  • @TechTins_Projects
    @TechTins_Projects 2 года назад +1

    Great video. That is the right way to compare things. Quick question: If all you are concerned about is preservation and surface protection (eg workshop boxes etc) what is the easiest way. Not concerned about quality of finish.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  2 года назад +1

      For that I'd go oil based every time. You can also apply a protective top coat - check out Tikkurilla Kiva 10 or Blockade Rock Top 👍

    • @TechTins_Projects
      @TechTins_Projects 2 года назад

      @@CharlieDIYte What oil based ones would you use?

  • @malgozata1875
    @malgozata1875 7 лет назад +3

    Charlie. You have done an AMAZING job. thank you very much. I would either use PVA or wood filler or oil-based primer.. because my concern is not only a nice smooth finish, but also sealing the MDF from water damage.. and of course, this means putting on a coat of polyurethane sealer. thank you for helping me see the difference and doing all of this work for me. Cheers!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  7 лет назад

      +Malgozata You're very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to add your thoughts on how it should be done, and for the great feedback - you guys are what makes it all worth while!

    • @goldenboyNJ
      @goldenboyNJ 3 года назад

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  • @carolepeck3829
    @carolepeck3829 2 года назад

    Very useful info. THANKS!

  • @michaelmcleary8566
    @michaelmcleary8566 5 лет назад

    For a while I've been considering different materials to create a tray ceiling for a bathroom that will hold downlights and LED strip. I dismissed MDF due to problems I had in the past regarding moisture ingress. However, after watching your video I've changed my mind and will try it (probably using 2 pack, Zinsser B.I.N. plus topcoat). Do you have any ideas for plasterboard alternatives for the bathroom ceiling other than plastic panelling? Though I have used soffit board in a few bathroom refits.

  • @leebreen3982
    @leebreen3982 6 лет назад +3

    Do any of these tecniques waterproof the edges? I'm thinking of making MDF or plywood cupboard doors that need replacing under the sink.

  • @travisjonker744
    @travisjonker744 6 лет назад

    I use 2 coats of 50 50 white glue and water then hit it with 400 grit. Sometimes there's dimples in the top coat, but works pretty well with minimal work. Also we use a spray gun to apply finish/paint.

  • @TheKhazar
    @TheKhazar 3 года назад

    2 methods you could have also tried: Rustin's MDF sealer which works well, and some lightly damped powder filler rubbed into the grain and sanded. The latter worked well too

  • @noahschmartz2354
    @noahschmartz2354 3 года назад +1

    Not everyone would have one but the blade out of a block plane works very well for trimming edge banding.

  • @petronics2454
    @petronics2454 5 лет назад +1

    I thought these comparisons were absolutely great when I reluctant to reply iron on tape (🆘 ♻️✅ as much I would have liked to!!). I wanted a waterproof option to sand and fix buckling due to water ingress. Oils all day long with your suggested prep - so thank you so much. I still might change my mind when I get to the paint shop. Great demo tutorial !!!!!!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  5 лет назад

      You're welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

    • @woodyzx12
      @woodyzx12 5 лет назад

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  • @lifeinchrist77
    @lifeinchrist77 4 года назад

    We polished the edges of MDF with verry fine wet and dry, about 2000 grit, when the edge is polished the paint does not soak in, if you have discs spin them on a mandrel, if you have square edge then you can use bobbin slander or disc sander.

  • @OnlyFriesians
    @OnlyFriesians Год назад

    I've been using plaster of Paris for sealing and smoothing the edges. Have tried all your tests except for the "oiled based" and have found plaster to be the smoothest, and most durable.

    • @nathanielnats4373
      @nathanielnats4373 Год назад

      That is really a good and easy way to do it, and you already have a whitish work surface. How thick do you make the mixture if I may ask? And drying time before sanding?

  • @Superstargaming105
    @Superstargaming105 Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I would worry about the edge tape pealing over time. I think the wood filler is a winner

  • @robertpearson8798
    @robertpearson8798 5 месяцев назад

    I’m currently doing a small project in MDF that has some edges slightly rounded. Applying wood filler to those would be much harder than a flat surface and applying the iron on edging would be out of the question. I’d have applied at least two coats of water based stain sealing primer to the edges sanding between coats.

  • @bramantehometechnologies9068
    @bramantehometechnologies9068 4 года назад

    Here in Uganda, East Africa we usually Sand and apply sanding sealer and fine sand before give the mdf edge a final paint. I guess from am going to try and take your approach. Thanks you.

  • @frannamegraw1384
    @frannamegraw1384 11 месяцев назад

    I work at a Furniture Factory we make high-end office furniture and we use pre glued edgebanding like you had and we can do not use a razor blade to cut the ends off or to flush it up to the piece I have a technique which makes it easier and nicer.. and this is .. use that same piece of wood u used to push down the pieces of what you call MDF tape and tap on the edges at a 45-degree angle and it will break the extra paper tape or banding off of the piece versus cutting it will make the paper or banding come out way cleaner on the sides

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  11 месяцев назад

      That's a nice technique that I hadn't thought of. Thanks for sharing 👊

  • @shawnthomas4193
    @shawnthomas4193 6 лет назад +1

    you can use a fine flat wood file at an angle to cut the edge band and de burr it with a few light strokes..

  • @soiledsux
    @soiledsux 5 лет назад +2

    iron on the trim, once it hardens, flip your piece over so the trim is flat on your workbench and using your utility knife with the mdf face as your guide, cut off the excess from the “backside”.
    easily trim off like 8ft pieces in seconds straight with minimal sanding.
    if the project is already built but still accessible you could just hold a chunk of 2x4 against the trim and do the same thing.

  • @jeffchandler5520
    @jeffchandler5520 3 года назад +1

    I learned a trick, use a sanding sealer. like the kind you find at the box stores or a good one like a vinyl sealer. then lightly sand. It give a great bond for primer, and a smooth base to start with.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  3 года назад

      Thanks Jeff. Good info 👍

    • @jeffchandler5520
      @jeffchandler5520 3 года назад

      @@CharlieDIYte great vid btw. I like how you tried several different ways, showed them and showed the results!

  • @dougmundie7053
    @dougmundie7053 4 года назад

    Thanks. Very useful info.

  • @lifeinchrist77
    @lifeinchrist77 5 лет назад

    I found the best way to seal edge of MDF was to polish it with very fine wet and dry or sandpaper if you can get say 2000 grit or thereabouts, used a lot in the motor painting industry. It will take a bit of elbow grease if you do not have a disc sander. The polishing actually seals the fibres so when painted it does not require any more sanding, primer strait to top coat. We found this out when producing hundreds of MDF disks, spinning them on the end of a motor and polishing the edges until they shined, then they were sealed, saved a lot of time and paint on the finish product. I hope this helps.

  • @halrichard1969
    @halrichard1969 Год назад

    I watched because I am building Speaker Cabinets with MDF and will paint the Face/Front of the Cabinet with Spray Paint in a Can. The edges of this piece will have a chamfer which will expose even more of the side edging. One type I was hoping you might have covered was a Polyurethane Wood Sealer. Thanks for your video.

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  Год назад

      Sanding is key as I explained here ruclips.net/video/763yQg0Euwc/видео.html

  • @TheDradge
    @TheDradge 4 года назад +1

    Try polyurethane sanding sealer. It dries fast and is thin to apply. That works great for edge treatment on MDF.

  • @rogerbarnes2565
    @rogerbarnes2565 4 года назад +1

    Try thin superglue, cheap enough now, we do the same with the edges of carbon fibre, works well.

  • @petermenningen338
    @petermenningen338 6 лет назад +2

    Which edge protects against edge swelling in moist environments the best? This is a real problem in Humid areas with untreated spaces

  • @noiseintheoffice
    @noiseintheoffice 5 лет назад

    I find it much easier to trim edge banding by holding a block of wood firmly on the tape surface and trimming from behind with an Olfa knife. Nice clean edge and it doesn’t cut into the wood.

  • @cruise2023
    @cruise2023 Год назад

    All this is great if you are only doing MDF edging ( for eg: a door ) When there is a need to butt the mdf edge to the face ( like a corner ) and needs to be painted, then a lot of these examples will not work. The idea is to get the edge to have the same surface texture as the face, so when you paint, one cannot tell there is an edge. The edge needs to be filled/sealed before priming and painting. Using an oil based putty will do the trick, light sand and repeat if necessary and to be level with the face side. Oil base primer, light sand and repeat then oil based paint. Does a great job if you want that look. Sorry I know this post is 5 yrs old, have only just noticed it Lol!

    • @CharlieDIYte
      @CharlieDIYte  Год назад

      Thanks Alain. Very useful. Also sanding is key as discussed here ruclips.net/video/763yQg0Euwc/видео.html

  • @badad0166
    @badad0166 9 месяцев назад

    5:06 There are relatively cheap razor tools that do a really tidy job vs. freehanding it. If you're stuck without one, scoring from the underside does a straighter line. But if you are doing more than a couple of shelves, buy the tool. Edging tape is more for paint free work where the planks are laminated with the same fake wood grain and colour that matches the tape and the tape is used to cover any exposed edges.
    Another wet option is watered down wood glue, but it dries pretty hard and tougher to sand (but inexpensive!).

  • @Sherry78
    @Sherry78 7 лет назад

    Which top coat do you recommend for an acrylic primer please?

  • @safehandsprojects
    @safehandsprojects 4 года назад

    Hi there, I have seen few of your videos, they are great, MDF test is very helpful. I wonder if you leave those painted edges into water for a week, to see wich method is more water resistant, question is if you still have those samples or chucked them in the bin? :)