The best £38 ($49) I ever spent on a graphics card.
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Looking for a used graphics card for under $50 (£50)? This may seem like an impossible challenge especially if you want decent frame rates, but the GTX 970 is one GPU that might surprise you.
0:00 Intro
1:00 Fortnite
1:18 Cyberpunk 2077
1:36 Red Dead Redemption 2
2:11 Apex Legends
2:21 Elden Ring
2:37 Spider-Man
3:01 The Witcher 3 Next-Gen
3:18 Grand Theft Auto V
3:34 Hogwarts Legacy
4:04 The Last of Us
4:31 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
4:48 Forza Horizon 5
5:08 Battlefield 2042
5:30 Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching :) 
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That MSI card reminds me of simpler times
Reminds me of the RX 580 I got for my sister 2 years ago for $80.
When graphics were terrible and gameplay for games were bad
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716first of all: graphics were fine, second: gameplay is a subjective thing but we can all agree that the gaming industry is going downhill now.
Those simpler times in general were truly before 2010...way before the release of the 970.
I had the MSI 980 TI Golden Edition back in the day. Woo boy do I miss it!!!
I used a GTX 960 for about five years and it performed admirably too. The 9 and 10 series were strange though, because it was a rare instance of Nvidia releasing a good GPU lineup twice in a row.
Had a 980 Ti and upgraded to 1080 Ti, yeah, both were awesome cards.
The 900 Series wasn't that good actually.
The 960 wasnt that much faster than the 760 and the 970 was basically a fraud with only 3,5 GB of the VRAM beeing connected with fast speed.
980 and 980 ti were okay, but so were 780 and 780ti back in their day.
10 series was exceptional though.
@@Hubwood 970 offered great performance for its price, and back then the 3½GB + 512MB crap didn't matter that much as even 2GB was fine.
And in overall, Maxwell offered better efficiency than Kepler.
@@Hubwood To me power usage was an issues at idle 980ti was better than 780ti.
Have a gigabyte gtx970 still working very well...one of nvidias best cards ever for price to performance...what happened nvidia?????
I used this msi 970 until earlier this year for 7 years and it really took a while for it to reach its limits for me, great card
Yeah still doing surprisingly well at 1080p
980Ti is still doing well at 720p
I had mine since 2014, only replaced it a few months back only because I went to 1440p, ran everything I played at 1080p 70-100fps.
@@juanme555 980ti can easily support 1080p why 720p?
@fudge7534 yup you're right. Even 1060s support 1080p well and those 980ti cards are way better than the entry 1060 cards lol
What a beast of a card. Almost 10 years old and still going strong
No wayy
I remember buying a GTX 970 ASUS Strix back in 2015 as an upgrade to my GTX 570 and my god what an upgrade it was. It lasted me 8 years and is the only card i feel i got more bang for my buck. I've just upgraded to an RTX 3060 TI but I'll always have fond memories of my good ol' 970.
I upgraded to a 970 from a GTX 560 in 2015 and just upgraded it yesterday. I bet a lot of people followed similar timelines. I got a 4070 Super though.
It looks like GPU pricing on the used market has finally reached equilibrium, and we're in a good place. Good time to build a good bang-for-dollar system out of second hard parts! The only thing I'll point out is for people to also cross-shop the RX 480 or 580 8GB in this general price range as it is a better card overall, and should be very close in price. Very nice video as always, my good man.
100% agree, the RX 480 and 580 8GB cards are very over looked imo, still a great budget 1080p card today.
My daughter is still rocking my old msi gtx 970 and I can confirm it still ploughs through all the games she cares to play at 1080p in style imo
The 970 was my first GPU purchase in 2015. This was a beast of a card back then. I had the Zotac Mini model.
Had mine until 2018 when I upgraded to a 1070 and then sold the 970 for £62 on eBay when they offered me 1p final value fees.
3 years after I went to the 3060 Ti which I still use to this day.
Love those zotac mini cards!
Still rocking a GTX 970 today, and it's a great graphics card.
I jus got one
i rate this card 3.5 out of 4, solid card
Ahaha good one! 😂
I bought a dell OEM 2060 for $50 last year. Replaced the fan and thermal paste, runs well. Good purchase.
What a good deal!
Jammy sod
thats a EPIC deal!
Damn , in my country i have to pay more than 250$ to get brand new gpu with that kind of performance. Luckily i dont live in brazil where i might have to pay 500$ plus
Damn, a punch in the face of the 580
This one is relatively good to this day in 1080p. I got it gifted by a friend who thought it was faulty. Turned out it was a PSU issue, but I got to keep the card anyway. I like that it's quiet, due to large fans. As long as the case is large enough to fit it. In those days I went with low profile Gigabyte GPU's. These days, there's nothing to choose from except 3090 Turbo.
Awesome content mate! Love the older GPUs.
You always make great content with beautiful Thumbnail ❤
The main issue with the GTX 970 and cards from a similar time period is that they are very likely to lose driver support soon (within around a year from now). Granted the impact won't be immediate however this might cause issues with any game that's being actively updated (this applies to live service games especially) and it might also cause issues if you're using Windows 11 as, unlike Windows 10, it will continue to receive major updates which in the past have caused compatibility issues with older drivers. This doesn't just apply to the Nvidia 9-series of course however given the length of driver support for Kepler GPUs it's going to happen sooner rather than later.
These companies should be forced to support older tech that is still capable. A**ehole companies always saying "We are going greener" blah blah blah but force items like this into the retro scene or into landfill when they know they are still great budget options, even with a higher power draw.
@@Northman_Roams Bruh, that's an almost 10-year-old GPU
like the R9 290-390 card from amd. A good card without driversupport anymore. very sad...
@@FenrirAlter So? It is clearly still capable of playing modern games. When it comes to PC hardware what matters is whether it is still usable for its intended purpose.
@@Northman_Roams Keeping old hardware running for as long as possible is just about the best thing we can do to minimize the damage to the environment. This wasn't a major issue in the past as PC hardware tended to become obsolete a lot faster than it does today.
Back when I also had a 970. I had wanted a Gainward Phantom and the local store actually carried that exact model by chance. I was really happy with it for as long as I had it. Sadly I'm a spender and can't get along with out of date parts in my PC for to long.
I had the exact same model back in the day, I thought it was a cool looking card too. But once the 1080 came out it got sold off but I did think it was a great card for the price
It rather depends on your definition of "out of date". Whether it be 5%, 10%, 50% or 200% performance improvements, it makes previous products outdated. Of course, businesses love customers who like to buy their products on a regular basis. One thing is certain, nothing in the world of computing stays current for very long. They get to sell "spenders" full price products months before the price drops substantially, when they bring out a slightly faster or improved version that the same customers "must have". 😁
that big grill model Phantom looks awesome at first sight, but when you see those 2 tiny fans under, well "hoping it will suffice"
@@another3997 I am certain I never paid full price for any PC part
@@finco7726 noo the fans were plenty enough gor the 970. larger cards had actually a 3 fan version of that heatsink while later the phantom cards were getting a regular heatsink with fans visible.
The GTX 970 was the first card I bought that really surprised me. I had a GTX 660 Ti, HD 6870 CF before it.
The first PC graphics card I bought that surprised me was... a 3DFX Voodoo Banshee. I got a £50 discount on a £100 card, which back then was quite a lot of money. It knocked the socks off the "2D only" card I had in my PC. Quake wasn't a blocky mess anymore! 😁
Just today I bought a replacement for my venerable gigabyte gtx 970, you put this video on line. PS: she is great again today, but Rtx 3060 12Gb will be better. Hello from France ;) You deserve much more suscribers
Nice mate, i still own this exact card for 10 years now. Recently upgraded to a 1080ti for a bargain (100 euro)
Good stuff!
Got the MSI 100ME version for $350 USD way back then, and I still use it in an old PC. The cooler is a beast, very quiet, and has a nice bright green and black shroud with just a sjngle green LED for the dragon logo. I almost don't want to sell it, it was the better than entry level graphics card I ever bought!
And all of this for a decent 150W power consumption, it could be run on some OEM or low end desktop with 300+w PSU which is very neat
Another great video from my favorite Tech youtuber!
I was wondering if you could tell me how you record games when you benchmark?
Everytime i try to record while benchmarking i either have to decrease the quality in the recording (which makes the recording look pretty bad and pixelated) or lose significant fps while recording at a good quality.
P.S. Do you think buying a 1080 ti in 2023 is a good or atleast viable choice? (in my country there's 1080 ti's for around 200 ish dollars used for sale, i was thinking of upgrading to a 1080ti from a rx 470 4gb)
Would you consider making a video about the 980Ti on a CRT monitor running 1280x800 resolution? it would be awesome content.
Curious, will you add Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart to the games benchmarks list? Be interesting to see how it runs on older cards, even if slow
It's kinda bugged atm, frame generation for example adds tons of stuttering.
This is honestly pretty amazing.
I have the green MSI GTX 970, it was an awesome card & im glad to have received so much out of it. Early last year I upgraded to an RX 6600 under $200 but I’ll never get rid of my 970. Put it in a guest system with 16 GB RAM & i5 2400. Phenomenal combo, most visitors assume it’s much newer than the combo really is! (Usually console only gamers)
How does it compare to a PS4 Pro In general? Always curious as I’ve got one laying around but since I set up a guest PC it hasn’t been used.
yeah Green one was Limited edition, there was also an Orange one as Gold edition
Love this card, my first 70 model I could afford. I had the same MSI card. its now sitting in my nephews computer and still doing the job at 1080p. (granted you do have to do things like turn shadows down etc).A few years ago I managed to upgrade to a 1070ti, which I am still running today as I game at 1080p.
I had the same 970. I ended up upgrading a few years ago, but my sister is still using it to this day.
I love that cooler design, wanna get me an old MSI because of that
I owned this exact model, it was great value for money. The cooler didn't make any noise at all and had fan stop, the GPU itself ran very cool inside an ITX box with very little cooling. I picked up a 570 4gb for around the same price recently and it would be interesting to compare the two.
I remember my strix 970 very fondly, gonna be a weird feeling the day maxwell loses support. I sold my 970 for 1070 right when it came out though 1070, was a nice upgrade in the vram department.
I still have it in my pc where I play light games.
This made me not even realise that I have this card from that much time, since 2014. Still rocks my needs
Bought an MSI GTX 970 Gaming at launch from Microcenter. This thing has had continuous use from my main rig back then, to my son's PC, emulator rigs, and most recently added to my 10yo daughter's PC with i7-6700k to run Hogwarts Legacy. It still impresses me as I recall spending $300 for a card that still handles AAA games at 1080p almost 10 years later.
Thanks for the video
Nice find, to me it seems like the current crop of popular AAA titles is one last hurrah for the Maxwell line of graphics cards. As more ue5 titles are released, these will fade quickly.
I still remember the 970 when it was new and just how much of a beast it was at the time.
The GTX 970 is still a good card for 1080p .
With these cards FSR is a great feature , but nowadays they use FSR only to not optimize newer games anymore.. :'D
hey its me again have you seen that mi25 cards are going for 80 bucks on ebay. and doy you know how to flash one while using a different card as a display. thank you
I had the exact same card, unfortunately it died. But I still keep it around for decoration, I really love this GPU
Had a Gigabyte Windforce 970 great cards still useful now especially at that price for a quick budget build. Even more impressive when you consider it's only 4gb and after 3.5 of that is used it's a "spillover segment" of vram. Never caused me any issues but it certainly caused Nvidia a headache with the lawsuit lol.
When we get the simple processors like g7505??? their have some good graphics in comparsion with the pocessor
I have this card. I bought it off my friend for 40£ after he upgraded a while back and it’s still a decent contender.
I combine it with an i5 10600k and 16gb of ddr4 memory. This is slightly overkill, but I bought these components back when GPUs were hard to come by and expensive (2019 or 2020..? When the 30 series were wreaking havoc). I went for these components as there was a good Amazon sale and it gave me room for future upgrades
I still have this card and I love it. Super good card
Had this exact MSI model before building a new rig about a month ago but damn has it stood through the test of times with me😂
Had one for solid four and a half years. It was a very good card and allowed me to play Fallout 4 on release. Bought it less than two weeks prior and it was bundled with a Samsung SSD and the total price was something like EUR 450.
Hey! You should add Dead Island 2 to the benchmark games! It seems to be very well optimized, even for older generations.
Your voice sounds so marvelous in this video.
I’ve owned this exact GTX 970 and it’s a good card.
Damn, I can't believe how well it still holds up. It used to be the most popular GPU back then. If you sacrifice FPS and lock to 30 you might be able to push graphics a bit more.
Im new to PC gaming how long does graphics usually last? I just got a 6700 xt
You can get these for £60 straight up from CeX btw, which I find absolutely crazy for a current driver supported card, I myself owned a 970 at one time (the EVGA SC variant, RIP)
The 970 only has 3.5GB of "fast" VRAM and +512MB of slower.
Can you find a way to test how that affects performance? (Some game that can be before and after the 3.5GB boundry, maybe by playing with textures?)
THIS IS A BEAST
Still rocking a similar GTX 970 but an ASUS Strix on a tertiary gaming PC (4690K OC'd to 4.6 Ghz) and being used by my wife's nephew for our LAN gaming. It still plays even latest games on 1080p.
I just this exact same card back from a friend on loan. I spent $30, like new condition still in the original box. The screw cover sticker is still on the back, so original paste, the originial owner took really good care of it. I can't wait to throw it into a old Dell 8700 with a i7 4790/32gb of ram. New PS of course.
Crazy value especially if you got it back in the day.
A solid budget card. It struggled with ARMA 3, but that was due to limitations of my then i5 6600.
Still rocking one 😊
I have a 290, and now I have it in a secondary pc, I bought that card brand new in mid 2014, and it still does the job, it has been running ROCK solid for more than 9 years and it is still going! despite sometimes hitting like 92ºc (Asus DirectCu II oc R9 290). We game hard our pcs at home, and now having such a low money value I even "neglect it a bit", I have it running with just 2 case fans, I used to have it with 6 and the thing still holds on to this very day, I don't want to get rid of it, it's like part of the family 🤣. honorable mention to the Antec hcg620m PSU that powers it from almost since I bought it and it still works just fine, I even had 2 gpus on that running 2 vm's with gpu passthrough on my 4c8t xeon (290 + GTS 450/RX460)
Does that slower .5 vram make much difference?
really a beast of a card, had also 2 of them in SLI... 1st bought used in 2017 at like 230e with 1 year guarantee, 2nd one maybe in 2019? for 120e... sold them both in 2021 for 2x 100e
I had an Asus strix ROG GTX970 and it was phenomenal. A fantastic card, even with just 4GB VRAM. I got it at a good price, and sold it for a good price. This was about four years ago now though. Still a solid player for a good budget rig 💯👌
Owl eyes' shroud model :)) nice
I've found locally a GTX 1060 (3GB) GPU for $26. Only problem it has is that the fan always ramps up to full speed so I hooked a case fan to the heatsink of the GPU and tested it and it's all good and quiet.
thanks :D
I still have a 970 in an old backup PC that I use for streaming. Don't game with it anymore, but I think it's still a pretty good gaming card if your game settings are within the limits of the HW.
A fairly cheap way to get a decent card. I had a look there at a comparison video of a 970, 1060 & 1650 and the 970 seemed to be fairly close to the 1650. Some games for the older card, some for the new but pretty close on average.
Yeah, bit of a nostalgic card at this point honestly, really was quite a hardware-transitory era of PC and Console gaming at the time.
I think second hand/older components are still a fantastic option when it comes to pc gaming. There's so much you can get away with compared to the latest and greatest. Sure some of it starts to show it's age, but the price to performance ratio is insane. You only wanna game at 1080p and have an average of 60fps? Your options are abundant. You don't even need to buy a new computer. Just get an old dell optiplex or Lenovo Thinkstation, upgrade the power supply, throw in a graphics card and ssd, and you're golden. I myself just snagged a Lenovo Thinkstation with an i7-6700 and 8 gigs of ram for $98 and an EVGA RTX 2060 KO for $150 from ebay. It pairs for a great budget experience and you can still play the latest games just fine.
Don't think you have to spend $800-$1,000 just to get into pc gaming. You can easily do it for $400 or less, especially if you're not sure you want to fully transition from console. Those fancy cases with RGB lighting are just for show and don't improve performance whatsoever.
RGB lighting add nothing but appearance it nice but the extra cash is better used on CPU or GPU if not worry save money get basic case with fans build and golden and with supply over spec as as save you in year to came and not need to upgrade it if more power hunger parts
I am impressed. GTX 970 still has chops. Even if you need FSR. But i'd want to see it with the 4790 it usually comes with.
I got a R9 290X Matrix Platinum for 10EUR last year. Still plays games fine as I have it on my 2nd PC with a 2500K @ 5GHz :)
I have an old evga 970. It's an awesome overclocker. A friend gave it to me, because he thought it killed 3 mainboards. Even though i proved it was his power supply he still wanted me to have the card.
this gtx 970 reminds me of playing on my old rx 570, tweaking every games setting to squeeze out the best fps/ graphics possible. its nostalgic almost... now i just set everything to high/ultra if it even has ultra lol
Used one up until last Christmas and never felt unable to play anything at all, with appropriate settings of course, still got it hanging around as an emergency spare should the situation arise.. it's still that decent!
I just picked up a Gigabyte Windforce 970 for 30 USD for a budget gaming rig. Have about 100 bucks into the setup altogether. Great for who I'm building it for. Mainly for Fortnite, Minecraft, Overwatch, etc. Good to know it can also stretch a little bit too if they want to.
I had a PNY 970 sitting in my desktop paired with a 4770K until just last month. I actually got a small check as part of the “only 3.5 gigabytes vram” class action lawsuit. I can’t remember how much it was for, though. Not a lot.
i've been thinking about an upgrade for a bit i74790k @4.7 and kfa gtx 970 1450+ Mhz on the core, but I'll wait for mid range Amd GPUs to show first. Still with a SSD and 16 GB of 2400 Mhz ram it still runs pretty smooth. Maybe I'll wait for another CRYSIS...
still a good budget 1080p gpu nowdays for the little money you pay for it, the only thing would be drivers support tho, im pretty sure it wont last too much since the 900 series is like 8-9 year old at this point.
whats a cheap upgrade for double the price?
0:53 camera movement is spot on
I still have my 970 in my server. Fun fact, it was the last GPU that I ever bought brand new. Every card since then has been second hand.
Can we get more benchmarks without res scaling technology? Or maybe tests with and without scaling techs? Feels like every benchmark uses scaling tech these days and it feels disingenuous to the actual performance of the cards at certain resolutions. Like 1080p with FSR is not 1080p for example.
Yeah I’m thinking about doing native and FSR benchmarks in videos. I tend to use it in these budget videos as it helps get the most out of cards and would be useful to potential buyers
i have that same msi card , cool thing with 970 is you can get a second one a run sli , some games still suport it ,
It holds up very well for being an almost decade old GPU, especially combined with FSR. Personally I would turn Cyberpunk, Spider-Man and Hogwarts Legacy down to low settings to get a more consistent 60 FPS experience but that's me, and lock anything that can't get near that no matter what to 30 (like TLOU).
My wifes pc uses that exact GPU with an i7 3770 and 16 gigs of ram. As we only play Destiny 2 this setup is great with 70 to 80 fps. Not bad at all for a quite an old system.
The 2600 & 3770 are amazing. Talk about longevity.
@@MandoMTL My PC is an x5660 which is well over a decade old now and still performs really well. With my 1080ti I can play D2 at 1440p with 60 to 80fps. Had this setup for over 5 years. Best money I ever spent on PC gear.
not sure if my cpu is problem or what but on fortnte i get 40fps with stutters i have tested 2 gtx 970s to no avail. other games are the same, low fps and very stuttery. i have i5 2400 cpu and 8gb of ram. i think the cpu may be the problem here
This red Gaming X design has always been my favorite besides Asus Strix
sold my 970 only a few months ago, got a gtx1080 super cheap so upgraded almost for free, did not really feel I needed the upgrade so was a solid card, at the moment there are many gtx980 cards for around £80 (at least in sweden), would be fun if you checked them out as well
Maybe some overclocking may help some of the harder to run titles!
I had a 970 till only may when i jumped to 3060. Solid card. It got moved to my media centre pc so the kids can use it for some basic gaming in the loungr
vram, is this the one that really only has 3 GB of usable memory, with the last GB being horribly slow?
I recently picked up a GTX 980 ASUS Strix for £65 from cex. Not sure what I'm gonna use it for yet, but I'll figure it out in sure.
The particular msi card in this video was the only version to have the full 4GB of ddr5 ram all at the same speed, its one of the reasons i bought it and i only upgraded to a 3060 12gb recently because the 970 was so good.
Its because its basically a tiny bit above 1650 and because it was so popular they tried to optimise games on around this hardware very cool in my opinion
how would this go with my windows xp
I your on budget build it good compromise with an eye to upgrade you GPU later on but for around $50+/-1 $10 you can now pick up an 8GB GPU ebay second hand like RX580 which is better bet due to extra Vram for 1080 gaming
I personally used a RX 560 4GB OC version by Asus for the longest time until I got a laptop gifted with an GTX 1060m (that I later sold in the GPU crisis times to later get an RX 6600).
I just got a 1060 6gb for 50 dollars shipping included. The performance is incredible for the cost.
Still rocking a gtx 970 in my older dual boot win7 32bit / win8 64 bit pc.
Wow 50 for this card, amazing, in hindsight I really regret upgrading past my 1080ti and just accepting 60fps on 1440p, but i wanted more fps, raytracing, all that jazz, but compared to those cards they never had the same oompf.
bro the aim at the beginning are u by any chance using ur feet ?