If you take pictures of your analog gear settings there is a vst you can insert to the chain to store the pictures of the settings. Its called snapshot by non-lethal applications.
Reaper is the gift that keeps on giving. Many times while watching this kind of thing I have to sit back and marvel at the genius of the initial architecture design. This is what has led us to v6 where everything is now polished, and you can achieve almost anything you can imagine in a DAW if you're prepared to stretch your mind. Really enjoyed the vid and presentation style, thanks!
If you use your analog gear to record “takes”, you can make a pass with chorus settings, verse settings, intro-outro settings and swipe a composite. This allows you easily use your gear to create dynamics, pump, and movement in the different parts of you arrangement with each pass and try out the different passes in a comp.
Studio one 4 pro has pipeline xt just so you can use external hardware. Works great . Oh ya you prefer Repear. Analog gear is amazing but for most to much money. I love my vintage gear and will never part with it .
If you set new recording creates new media items instead, then those items become completely independent. You can even delete the original source track and the new recording remains.
How I approached the same thing.... Made a custom action for realtime freezing Set render speed to realtime Freeze to stereo Set render speed to not limited Added it as a custom button to HeDa Track Inspector and use its track versions to manage before and after versions Track inspector is amazing, you should check it out. The Version system lets you view and hide multiple versions of a track
Been working in a similar way for the last 2-3 years. I've got a simple Reaper macro set up so that I can just hit "i" and it will add ReaInsert at the end of the FX chain of the currently selected track AND Airwindows StudioTan for a colored dither on the signal that's being converted down from 64 float to 24 fixed point (so literally just a macro to add StudioTan and ReaInsert in that order). I still create a new track and record (without monitoring) the return channels on that while monitoring the channel that Reinsert is on. Could be streamline even more but even as-is it's really quick to set up hardware inserts in an ITB mix or add hardware aux sends (in that case I add a new track, add a hardware insert by pressing "i" while that track is selected, and then treat it like any other fully ITB aux send until I get the mix where I want it, at which point I record the output of that track and then bypass the insert - pretty basic stuff really but Reaper makes it very natural and quick). most of the time I'm either inserting hardware compressors, using hardware reverb on an aux send, or routing the master buss through the Otari MX5050. Once I sat down and spent a little time figuring out a workflow, it made using hardware in an ITB mix almost as seamless as using plugins. Hopefully I explained that in a way that makes sense. I don't really like using takes in Reaper. They're useful but it's too easy to accidentally select a different take while selecting a clip[ on the timeline. When I DO use takes, as soon as I have a take (or a comp of multiple takes) that I like I'll use "crop to current take" in the item right click menu to convert the clip in question from a multi-take thing to a regular clip of the good take(s). the sooner I can get i of multi-take clips on the timeline the happier I am.
The best way to not change takes by accident is by choosing the option that doesn't display the lanes. Then the only way to switch between takes is to hit "T" (or "shift + T").
I think you can record up to 64 'takes' per track, there are videos which explain the possibility's, like recording multiple takes of multiple mic'd drums, for comping together-it can get confusing though. Definitely a feature that has been well worked out though.
cmd alt R (ctrl alt R on PC) on selected track with ReaInsert plugin on - render to file - (selected stems, add rendered item to new tracks in project) renders hardware in real time providing you have a proper compensation measured or your interface gives you good automatic readings. You can create a child track, insert ReaInsert, send tracks you want to be fx-ed to that track and render reverb etc.
Lol, I basically made the same video a few weeks back for Cubase (and more specific to re-amping). Cubase' Render-in-Place feature makes it even more simple.
I like analog gear, but more for tracking. If you wanna do something like that in Cubase (Pro only) it's quite easy. You can setup analog gear as insert and of course print that at any time.
Cool use of takes to keep it all in one channel. Right-click over the record button of any channel and you have the option of recording the channel output.
@@Whiteseastudio I hope you will like it. Personally I don't print tracks, it takes a lot of time and if you want to change something you have to reprint, I try to use mostly hardware with stepped controls (or few controls). I'm currently saving to get a Wes audio rack
@@Whiteseastudio NE Undo? Is this the new macro inside REAPER? :D UPD: [bad humor off] Of course it will be very interesting to watch cause I'm user of Cubase too.
the only thing that makes PT worth is playlist feature... else it's totally shit honestly :D without playlist feature, I'll introduce u the un-pro tools.
One thing I found out and may be help others is that the Reaper pan law have a effect on the level of new recorded take from track output, any setting accept +0.0db on pan law option will turn down new recorded take set amount, for example if we have pan law set to -3.0, new take from track output will be -3.0 quieter. The only thing I found that stop this happening is to have gain compensation (boost pan) on. I may be wrong but this is what I saw doing my own tests, hope it could help someone and correct me if I am wrong.
The guys behind Reaper should really take these macros that people make and consider making them a simple button for everybody to use when they open Reaper for the first time.
I prefer external and usually analog gear but the holy grail of instant recall between different projects, whilst still retaining all raw takes and having the flexibility to adjust any aspect of a sound, which means using midi a lot, with different midi support, is just .. routing and organisational headache. Brain at 100% cpu for 70 years before getting any music done.
Nice trick, I have used Bomes Midi Translator Pro to make a mackie compatible control surface (Korg Nano Studio) usable for Audacity and Adobe Premiere Elements. These applications don't support this by them selves but it makes them faster to use by assigning keyboard shortcuts to midi events.
The answer is clear, just make better results! But seriously I'm very interested in this, I've been trying to get the analogue sound on the way in, using hardware when recording - I've honestly never yet bounced anything out of Logic (with the handy I/O plugin) for more analog processing - would be fun to try! I'm wondering how many generations you can go to before the D/A then A/D starts to degrade the sound?
Thank you for showing how this is done properly! But it's strange that ReaInsert can't render/apply FX in realtime...I hope they consolidate this feature so recording won't be necessary anymore!
I'm talking about the rendering options in the right-click menu of items. It could work (If reaInsert dictated a render speed of 1.00x), it should work but it doesn't, at least not yet.
Great - have started to integrate analog gear, too now with ReaInsert, now I have to spend a lot of brain about that routing on my Fireface UCX, hahaha
I was checking this video one more time, and noticed something that I'm getting too, on 5:35, after bouncing the analog gear to file, the playback sounds "lower" in level than the original, and also than while recording, Is this due to something that can be avoided? or is it "normal"? Thanks for all your videos
S1 layers? Usually do this sort of thing through the Audio interface mixer nowadays. Metric Halo MIO console is great, especially the new 3d, route anything to everything and back. In DP there used to be the option to create track from layer, which was or is really useful.
Do you still use this method? I’m just now realizing it’s not ideal for automation, unless I’m missing something. I’m looking for the best way to mix through the desk, but also be able to do client recalls with ease.
Hello, I'm fairly new to Reaper. I started running it on a PC and everything ran great. Now, I run it to a Mac and even upgraded to Reaper V7.03 and have problems getting signal for my analog inputs (level meter does not move and recorded audio is silent/empty). Could anybody point me in the right direction? I did some troubleshooting as follows: - cable connections are good - correct audio device is selected in preferences/audio/device - the track is armed - the correct input is selected - On my audio interface loop-back mixer, I can see the signal meter moving for both inputs - Volume levels are high enough on the inputs to capture signal Am I missing anything? Please help! Thanks!
non-lethal-applications.com/products/snapshot Thinking the same thing. You really should do a video on it and other strategies for Hybrid I/O, Latency Compensation, Recall etc. Someone else mentioned Pipeline in Studio One, how do we get there in Reaper?
I like the tip suggestions like this, although I currently work only ITB. But, not having used Reaper before, I'm wondering if this is just like Logic Pro's "Take" folder with alternative takes. You could keep earlier unprocessed takes lower in the folder so that isn't heard in the mix.
Does anyone use Reaper with the Cranborne 500r8? I'm having a hell of a time trying to insert a preamp into my session. I'm very new to using DAW's for the record if it wasn't obvious.
just figured this trick out today! resampled through my Audio Interface with a slight boost on the channel input gain to achieve some beautiful analog soft-clipping
Here's something for your Snake Oil... ò.ò ... I'm wondering have you ever tried the Gullfoss (Intelligent Equalizer)...!? by Soundtheory. Just wondering if you've ever come across it and what you think. Would love to know. P.S. Loved the video about the monitor controllers being as I'm seriously thinking of getting something that will suffice, I now have two sets of monitors and need something that switches between them and controls the Volume. So I found that very helpful hopefully, I'll make the right decision.
@@Whiteseastudio Why is this not just Overdubbing? You just inserted extra gear (Plugin or Hardware Insert) into the signal flow before "take two". Unless I missed something.
digital is better because everyone use it.i never went to a record store and ask the sale's man was this song recorded analog and they say no and I don't buy the song that I really like.peace.
I thouhgt I understood something but your hardware inputs and outputs are the same. I just don't understand that part at all... Are you not using an "effects loop". What is this video about?
Output 3 and input 3 are not the same physical plug. Could also be output 4 and input 6. it all depends on how you routed everything originally with cables.
You're awesome. I have a question. What's your position on keeping mixdowns and masters in the daw and prioritizing your income into VSTs instead of hardware. At my post production studio job, I've been kinda forced to keep my mixes in my laptop, so I rely completely on vsts to get my job done. If anything, having a good room and monitors is most important to me so I know where my mix stands. Will hardware give me an advantage over vsts for time honored mixing techniques and traditions?
Maybe reaper should make something like Pipeline recently added in Studio One. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/pipeline-xt-integrating-outboard-studio-one. You even get to save the settings photo in the plugin
I voted dislike because of the click bait title. It doesn't matter that you apologize in the beginning of the video. The video was a waste time since it only related to the software you using. Cubase has that stuff built in from the start, so it is a waste of time for me to watch this.
If you take pictures of your analog gear settings there is a vst you can insert to the chain to store the pictures of the settings. Its called snapshot by non-lethal applications.
I switched from Pro Tools to Reaper last month - am absolutely loving working in Reaper.
same here ,I switched for a year ago, with no regrets lol, ProTools? nah..let's call it unProTools instead lol
Reaper is the gift that keeps on giving. Many times while watching this kind of thing I have to sit back and marvel at the genius of the initial architecture design. This is what has led us to v6 where everything is now polished, and you can achieve almost anything you can imagine in a DAW if you're prepared to stretch your mind. Really enjoyed the vid and presentation style, thanks!
If you use your analog gear to record “takes”, you can make a pass with chorus settings, verse settings, intro-outro settings and swipe a composite. This allows you easily use your gear to create dynamics, pump, and movement in the different parts of you arrangement with each pass and try out the different passes in a comp.
that is brilliant. I'm going to try this with the new lanes feature.
Having analog console in your studio pic is a good selling point for studio marketing. Looks more sexier - catches more customers!
@Robert Grant That's true, but nice pics always help as well.
how to make more MONEY using ANALOG GEAR?! - Sell ANALOG GEAR?
Usually for a lot less that you originally paid for it, so really it's how to LOSE even more money using ANALOG GEAR.
It's important to wait around 30 years before selling, this way there's a small chance the price will go up ;)
Studio one 4 pro has pipeline xt just so you can use external hardware. Works great . Oh ya you prefer Repear. Analog gear is amazing but for most to much money. I love my vintage gear and will never part with it .
You guys all assumed he meant sell used gear. No! Build it and then sell it.
only useful as eyecandy for promoting your studio these days
Thank you. Definitely love tips specific to the hybrid mixing process and making things more efficient for recalls, staying organized, etc.
If you set new recording creates new media items instead, then those items become completely independent. You can even delete the original source track and the new recording remains.
It's not a bug, it's called overdubbing.
That's what I was thinking! Has he never tracked vocals? That's why "Playlists" (PT) and "Takes" (Reaper) exist. Unless I'm missing something.
@@G_handle I think what he means is that it's odd you can overdub over the source of the take.
How I approached the same thing....
Made a custom action for realtime freezing
Set render speed to realtime
Freeze to stereo
Set render speed to not limited
Added it as a custom button to HeDa Track Inspector and use its track versions to manage before and after versions
Track inspector is amazing, you should check it out. The Version system lets you view and hide multiple versions of a track
Been working in a similar way for the last 2-3 years. I've got a simple Reaper macro set up so that I can just hit "i" and it will add ReaInsert at the end of the FX chain of the currently selected track AND Airwindows StudioTan for a colored dither on the signal that's being converted down from 64 float to 24 fixed point (so literally just a macro to add StudioTan and ReaInsert in that order). I still create a new track and record (without monitoring) the return channels on that while monitoring the channel that Reinsert is on. Could be streamline even more but even as-is it's really quick to set up hardware inserts in an ITB mix or add hardware aux sends (in that case I add a new track, add a hardware insert by pressing "i" while that track is selected, and then treat it like any other fully ITB aux send until I get the mix where I want it, at which point I record the output of that track and then bypass the insert - pretty basic stuff really but Reaper makes it very natural and quick).
most of the time I'm either inserting hardware compressors, using hardware reverb on an aux send, or routing the master buss through the Otari MX5050. Once I sat down and spent a little time figuring out a workflow, it made using hardware in an ITB mix almost as seamless as using plugins.
Hopefully I explained that in a way that makes sense.
I don't really like using takes in Reaper. They're useful but it's too easy to accidentally select a different take while selecting a clip[ on the timeline. When I DO use takes, as soon as I have a take (or a comp of multiple takes) that I like I'll use "crop to current take" in the item right click menu to convert the clip in question from a multi-take thing to a regular clip of the good take(s). the sooner I can get i of multi-take clips on the timeline the happier I am.
The best way to not change takes by accident is by choosing the option that doesn't display the lanes. Then the only way to switch between takes is to hit "T" (or "shift + T").
I think you can record up to 64 'takes' per track, there are videos which explain the possibility's, like recording multiple takes of multiple mic'd drums, for comping together-it can get confusing though. Definitely a feature that has been well worked out though.
In Logic Pro we Call it "Alternative Track"
cmd alt R (ctrl alt R on PC) on selected track with ReaInsert plugin on - render to file - (selected stems, add rendered item to new tracks in project) renders hardware in real time providing you have a proper compensation measured or your interface gives you good automatic readings. You can create a child track, insert ReaInsert, send tracks you want to be fx-ed to that track and render reverb etc.
Lol, I basically made the same video a few weeks back for Cubase (and more specific to re-amping). Cubase' Render-in-Place feature makes it even more simple.
Great video, Dutch Mark Arm!
When he said "sooo" after the intro I was sure he was about to start singing Blue (abi di aba di)
I like analog gear, but more for tracking. If you wanna do something like that in Cubase (Pro only) it's quite easy. You can setup analog gear as insert and of course print that at any time.
Cool use of takes to keep it all in one channel. Right-click over the record button of any channel and you have the option of recording the channel output.
With Cubase you can do all those things without any plug ins, just with hardware inserts. At least from Cubase 5, don't know about earlier versions
I’m looking into neundo 😊
@@Whiteseastudio I hope you will like it. Personally I don't print tracks, it takes a lot of time and if you want to change something you have to reprint, I try to use mostly hardware with stepped controls (or few controls). I'm currently saving to get a Wes audio rack
@@Whiteseastudio Oh, so you are planning to leave the Reaper community?
@@Whiteseastudio NE Undo? Is this the new macro inside REAPER? :D
UPD: [bad humor off] Of course it will be very interesting to watch cause I'm user of Cubase too.
In Pro Tools you can also record multiple takes in one track. You can find these then in the playlist on the right side of your screen.
the only thing that makes PT worth is playlist feature... else it's totally shit honestly :D without playlist feature, I'll introduce u the un-pro tools.
One thing I found out and may be help others is that the Reaper pan law have a effect on the level of new recorded take from track output, any setting accept +0.0db on pan law option will turn down new recorded take set amount, for example if we have pan law set to -3.0, new take from track output will be -3.0 quieter. The only thing I found that stop this happening is to have gain compensation (boost pan) on. I may be wrong but this is what I saw doing my own tests, hope it could help someone and correct me if I am wrong.
The guys behind Reaper should really take these macros that people make and consider making them a simple button for everybody to use when they open Reaper for the first time.
Been looking for this feature for ages! Thanks for showing us
"We are living in a digital world"... My mind: "And I am a digital giiiiirrrrrrllllllll!".
Saw the title, got the answer: Sell it :D
Lel! :D
Maybe a better idea! 😂😂😂
I prefer external and usually analog gear but the holy grail of instant recall between different projects, whilst still retaining all raw takes and having the flexibility to adjust any aspect of a sound, which means using midi a lot, with different midi support, is just .. routing and organisational headache. Brain at 100% cpu for 70 years before getting any music done.
Nice trick, I have used Bomes Midi Translator Pro to make a mackie compatible control surface (Korg Nano Studio) usable for Audacity and Adobe Premiere Elements. These applications don't support this by them selves but it makes them faster to use by assigning keyboard shortcuts to midi events.
The answer is clear, just make better results! But seriously I'm very interested in this, I've been trying to get the analogue sound on the way in, using hardware when recording - I've honestly never yet bounced anything out of Logic (with the handy I/O plugin) for more analog processing - would be fun to try! I'm wondering how many generations you can go to before the D/A then A/D starts to degrade the sound?
Another great and interesting video!
What do you recommend for single or dual channel mic pre's?
Thank you for showing how this is done properly! But it's strange that ReaInsert can't render/apply FX in realtime...I hope they consolidate this feature so recording won't be necessary anymore!
Reinsert can apply FX in realtime. There's latency testing/compensation built into it for just that purpose.
I'm talking about the rendering options in the right-click menu of items. It could work (If reaInsert dictated a render speed of 1.00x), it should work but it doesn't, at least not yet.
@@krass76 I'm not familiar with that feature. I've created stems with "freeze track" but that's not real time.
I switched to Reaper a half year ago and I'm quite new on it. It seems Reaper has almost endless possibilities to make things happen.
Great - have started to integrate analog gear, too now with ReaInsert, now I have to spend a lot of brain about that routing on my Fireface UCX, hahaha
You can hide and make inactive in reaper. View-track manager - you can hide it there, mute makes the track inactive.
I was checking this video one more time, and noticed something that I'm getting too, on 5:35, after bouncing the analog gear to file, the playback sounds "lower" in level than the original, and also than while recording, Is this due to something that can be avoided? or is it "normal"?
Thanks for all your videos
S1 layers? Usually do this sort of thing through the Audio interface mixer nowadays. Metric Halo MIO console is great, especially the new 3d, route anything to everything and back. In DP there used to be the option to create track from layer, which was or is really useful.
I love this. I would absolutely sponsor you on patreon for these type of reaper videos
How are you compensating for the I/O latency?
Chase Dobson Reainsert has latency compensation built in
What is this song Wytse! I couldn't find it on RUclips, what's the name?
What is SWS in reaper? When I try to make that toolbar the sws ones don't show up
Je "analoge" gevoel klopt helemaal, volg je gevoel en daarbij, serieuze klanten weten dat analoog echte werkelijk kwaliteit levert!
Just bought first outboard gear Warm Audio EQP-PA to use to mix with reaper and I could not make sense of this video at all.
Do you still use this method? I’m just now realizing it’s not ideal for automation, unless I’m missing something. I’m looking for the best way to mix through the desk, but also be able to do client recalls with ease.
Original track becomes a reference
to the new working track.
I mean you could rent it out... thats a solid way to make money purely off of analog gear. You dont even have to use it yourself!
Hello,
I'm fairly new to Reaper. I started running it on a PC and everything ran great. Now, I run it to a Mac and even upgraded to Reaper V7.03 and have problems getting signal for my analog inputs (level meter does not move and recorded audio is silent/empty). Could anybody point me in the right direction?
I did some troubleshooting as follows:
- cable connections are good
- correct audio device is selected in preferences/audio/device
- the track is armed
- the correct input is selected
- On my audio interface loop-back mixer, I can see the signal meter moving for both inputs
- Volume levels are high enough on the inputs to capture signal
Am I missing anything? Please help!
Thanks!
Is this automatically delay compensated? Reaper seems great for this kind of thing but man, I would need a tech to do all this for me.
😎cool feature
Check out Snapshot from Non-Lethal, to save your pictures in DAW
non-lethal-applications.com/products/snapshot
Thinking the same thing. You really should do a video on it and other strategies for Hybrid I/O, Latency Compensation, Recall etc. Someone else mentioned Pipeline in Studio One, how do we get there in Reaper?
You are funny (saying it sarcastically !!! I couldn't stop laughing !!LOL!!
I like the tip suggestions like this, although I currently work only ITB. But, not having used Reaper before, I'm wondering if this is just like Logic Pro's "Take" folder with alternative takes. You could keep earlier unprocessed takes lower in the folder so that isn't heard in the mix.
This video is snake oil.
Fan of the channel, subbed, but clickbait shit like this is beneath you.
Does anyone use Reaper with the Cranborne 500r8? I'm having a hell of a time trying to insert a preamp into my session. I'm very new to using DAW's for the record if it wasn't obvious.
I think you should be using Dante.
just figured this trick out today!
resampled through my Audio Interface with a slight boost on the channel input gain to achieve some beautiful analog soft-clipping
Here's something for your Snake Oil... ò.ò ... I'm wondering have you ever tried the Gullfoss (Intelligent Equalizer)...!? by Soundtheory. Just wondering if you've ever come across it and what you think.
Would love to know.
P.S. Loved the video about the monitor controllers being as I'm seriously thinking of getting something that will suffice, I now have two sets of monitors and need something that switches between them and controls the Volume. So I found that very helpful hopefully, I'll make the right decision.
I Am waiting an mpressor 500!! Looking foward to xfilter xD
It's not a bug.
It's a feature?
@@Whiteseastudio Why is this not just Overdubbing? You just inserted extra gear (Plugin or Hardware Insert) into the signal flow before "take two". Unless I missed something.
digital is better because everyone use it.i never went to a record store and ask the sale's man was this song recorded analog and they say no and I don't buy the song that I really like.peace.
I thouhgt I understood something but your hardware inputs and outputs are the same. I just don't understand that part at all... Are you not using an "effects loop". What is this video about?
Output 3 and input 3 are not the same physical plug. Could also be output 4 and input 6. it all depends on how you routed everything originally with cables.
do you still track like this?
one year later?
You're awesome. I have a question. What's your position on keeping mixdowns and masters in the daw and prioritizing your income into VSTs instead of hardware. At my post production studio job, I've been kinda forced to keep my mixes in my laptop, so I rely completely on vsts to get my job done. If anything, having a good room and monitors is most important to me so I know where my mix stands. Will hardware give me an advantage over vsts for time honored mixing techniques and traditions?
Routing not rooting btw. You pronounce routing just the same way as you would in Dutch.
Of course pro tools studio one and logic also can do it !!!
I find it so hard to decipher what your are saying...♫♪♫♪
Wow so not what I was hoping.
I feel sorry for people still using pro tools. After switching to Reaper PT is a joke.
Humans hear analogue. Less components is better. So analogue chain is best.
Reaper is the DAW for rebels
Maybe reaper should make something like Pipeline recently added in Studio One. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/pipeline-xt-integrating-outboard-studio-one. You even get to save the settings photo in the plugin
I voted dislike because of the click bait title. It doesn't matter that you apologize in the beginning of the video.
The video was a waste time since it only related to the software you using. Cubase has that stuff built in from the start, so it is a waste of time for me to watch this.
Seems like you might wanna check out Lokasenna's Track Versions script for this workflow. It's supposed to work like Protools Playlist...