Boeing 737 Lands itself in Birmingham
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2020
- Ever wondered how a plane lands itself ?
Here you can see how it does so :)
Let me know your thoughts on this and rate the Autopilot landing down below!!
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STAR : FIGZI 1B
APPROACH : ILS Z 15
METAR : 170/8 1200M OVC002 9/9 1010 LVP 
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One of the best landing videos I have watched, place isn't anywhere special, I live 5 miles away from the airport. But being able to see the sky and important instruments during whole landing made it really interesting, seeing how the AP works on a real 737 and not a sim for a change.
Great autoland, thanks for the video!
Thank you! :)
Can’t get better than that lads! 👍💪
Makes life easier I guess ;)
Very interesting video.. thank you for your efforts
Thank you Marek !! :))
I wish I had this technical achievement in my car. Fog, hold my beer.
😂😂 probably one day it will!
My home airport. Loved this! Fascinating to see landing on autopilot. Always wondered when you disconnected autopilot. Now I know. More EGBB please!
Thank you very much for your support!! :) Will definitely do!
By the way. Some 737’s are fail operational and the autopilot only comes out when reaching taxi speed. Also on some airports they have no decision height at all.
Ah, Birmingham during the height of summer. Never change. I only drive up the M6 when my car needs a wash 😉
(With love from a bit further south of you)
Wow you guys were light. Very rare flying the freighter to have a ref less than 140 knots. Great video
No matter how good and reliable your automation is. Surfing on clouds so low can give you goosebumps and make you nervous and extra cautious as a good part at the same time. Btw Flaps 40 landing?
That is correct! ;)
1:40 - "twenty five hundred" readout with a huge blanket of fog underneath. Crazy.
And below clouds, runway and papi lights; From my side is almost a miracle. One question, gnss Approach is more reliable than ils? Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Spain.
Depends what you mean by reliable really, if it’s flying wise, the ILS is more accurate than the GNSS approaches and also has lower DH and RVR compared to the LNAV/VNAV minima, there are however some GNSS approaches with the LPV minima which are very accurate and have pretty much the same minima of a CAT I ILS;
maintenance wise I am not entirely sure but I’d say GNSS equipment doesn’t need “maintenance” as often as an ILS :)
Any other questions please feel free to ask anytime!!
wow
Hey man just a question... whats the reason for the autoland ? Couldnt you have done it manually... the approach lights were visible at 300ft on the radio altimeter
Hi Jake, thank you for the question, company procedure is to continue with the autoland as briefed if the approach checks are complete and as you can probably guess they were by then. However my personal opinion on your question is as follows;
As you have already mentioned the approach lights were visible at around 300ft RA, which is around 600ft Baro, the minimums for a CAT 1 landing for RWY 15 in BHX is 503 ft, so if you were to revert to a manual landing you have approximately 9/10 seconds to reset your minimums, rebrief with the captain that you will be the one landing now (During Autoland the First Officer is pilot flying until the Captain calls continue and takes over controls and lands or unless it is a Go Around and the FO remains PF), now taken all of this into account and the time available, it is easier if you stick with the plan. It is way safer to continue with the autoland than start resetting things around at 300ft above the ground!
I hope this answers your question, please let me know if it does not :)
Even a 737 says “NOPE” to Birmingham, ALABAMA and it’s not even sentient
Do you have any footage from EGPE?
Good laning
How do pilots use green dashed circles on the ND with a radius of 9,10 nm?
Atis had the opposite runway in use, hence the rings for the other runway, that’s been corrected as you have probably noticed during approach checks!
Hi what are the green circles that appear? And why do you need both cmd's to land?
The green circles are used as a reference from the runway in this case 5 and 10NM from the threshold of runway 15; Dual autopilot operation gives you a fail-passive operation, so if you have a failure of one of the Autopilots, the operative one counteracts the failed one!
@@AviationHubOfficial Thank you
Hmmmm did you mean MINIMUMS rather than MINIMUS? :-)
😂😂 my bad
"mini-mommies"
Hello, i have a question. What would be that green arrow on the altitude tape just when hitting 1000ft AGL?
If you’re talking about the very little one pointing upward, thats indicating your minimums on the radio altimeter reading :)
@@AviationHubOfficial I meant the one at 3:56, it's a bigger one and pointing to the altimiter tape.
@@AndreDeCe oh gotcha now! That’s the Minimum Flap Retraction Altitude set with Baro minimums (So in case you were to lose one engine and go around that’s the minimum altitude you need to achieve in order to accelerate and retract the flaps) :)
@@AviationHubOfficial thanks for the answer, keep up the great work 😁
@@AndreDeCe you’re most welcome anytime! Thank you ;)
Why there shows [CMD] under 1000 instead of [LAND3] ?
It’s different annunciation depending on aircraft type, on 737 you see CMD, on 777 or 747 you will probably see Land3 :)
@@AviationHubOfficial Ah! Thank you so much for the reply. Btw, I really expect that there is a camera for MCP.
@@anduinxue4729 thank you very much for the idea! :)
sir can you put auto pilot disangage when runway inside even planed autoland ?
You can disengage the autopilot anytime really but most of the time (not in this video) you wouldn’t see munch until 60 or 50ft, and by disconnecting the autopilot and manually compensating for the trim at such low altitude you would risk having a hard touchdown!
@@AviationHubOfficial okey thank you so much for this such a perfect information
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Speedbrake armed at 2:50 in the video
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I want to win for my daughter's schooling and she wants to improve her drawing skills by using that :)
I hope I can win! Thanks a lot!!
Is this Flight Simulator generated?
did they need auto land cuz it was too foggy?
Yes! That is correct :)
So to auto land you just leave the ILS on until touchdown ?
Yes that is correct!
@@AviationHubOfficial Thanks ✈
Great! But why don’t pilots use auto-landing every time? Why did they use it this time?
In short, autopilot is not as smooth as regular pilot landings (normally) and the list of systems needed to do autoland is somewhat extensive.
In this case they used autoland because of low visibility
@@TannerPalk Thanks a lot for answering my questions. Low visibility must be a good reason to go auto-landing when such a beautiful thing is available. In this video, this auto-landing looks smooth enough and definitely very precise. It's good to know that modern planes can do such a thing!
Minimums when you’re already over the runway?
Hi Joseph! Yes that is correct, the 50ft radio as you can probably see it’s over the runway threshold! There are newer aircraft equipped with more advanced systems and they can land with 0 visibility and their minimums is set to 0ft :)
@@AviationHubOfficial I wonder if it would be better for boeing to change the minimums callout just before reaching the 50ft in this case, because once 50ft is reached there's a small delay in the callout, by the time it's heard, a number of feet have already been lost!
@@n1msu Hi Nim, good to hear from you again! I hope you’re keeping well, I think Boeing already has taken that into account really, that is probably why there is no 50 call if you have noticed :)
@@AviationHubOfficial Ah I had no idea they'd changed this! Awesome video. I'm a total geek I love watching how airspeed and altitude changes in relation to climbing and descending in different aircraft. I am really good thanks. How are you?? were you the 1st officer on this flight??
@@n1msu I was indeed Nim, I’m good myself, thank you for being here!!
Wow, A 737 at only 126 Kts, For some reason I thought around 140 Kts was most often the speed.
You are correct, most of the time the vref is around 140/150; here as you can probably tell we were really light and it was a flap 40 landing :)
So not all landings are 40° flap landings? I assumed they were as well. Learning a lot here
@@mccloysong Most of the time it’s actually Flap 30 landings :)
We tend to use Flap 40 for short runways, tailwind landings, steeper glide slopes or wet/contaminated runways!
Are there any reasons why pilots would use this on a perfectly clear vfr day?
No its not designed for it .
so its an autoland in normal IFR weather?
Not exactly! When it is Low Visibility its Autoland :)
@@AviationHubOfficial ok, but this video isnt low visibility....according to the map, its almost a mile.
That’s not for me to decide really, You can totally consider it low vis or not as you prefer, unfortunately it is not my plane so I follow whatever the company procedures are, plus Atis and Tower said it’s LVP.
Excellent video. Could watch these all day.
Why 2 autopilots?
Dual autopilot operation gives you a fail-passive operation, so if you have a failure of one of the Autopilots, the operative one counteracts the failed one! :)
I am second and I have nothing cool to say either. 🤷♂️😁
You were actually third 😂
Rt
Big deal. Planes have been using autoland systems since 1980, both Boeing and Airbus. Even McDonnell Douglas. Not new tech. Quite old indeed.
Compare to auto land system of rockets, Yes!
British Trident airliners performed full autolandings from June 1965 onwards - what took the US so long to catch up?
looks like we don't need more pilots in the future
Autoland doesn’t replace pilots
i don't think so.
The videos are cool but the comment section is filled with Armchair pilots who say “flying is easy nowadays because Autoland” and “this is the end of pilots” but who actually don’t understand the complexities of an Autoland and that it’s not there (and never has) been there to replace pilots. This has been around since the 1960s and only 1% of landings are done automatically.
I truly appreciate your comment!!, Oh well what can we do? I guess not everyone really knows the behind the scenes :)
@@AviationHubOfficial 99% of people and it’s kind of sad
But hey, I don’t fly for the praise
I am first but I have nothing cool to say.
And this is why pilots have no skill today, I retired from flying 747 and I never used the auto land I preferred doing all my landings manually, do manual landings keeps your skills sharp
And what did you do when you couldn’t see? Divert?
I’ll let you think whatever you want about today’s pilots, that’s totally your opinion but I’m pretty certain any other pilot seeing this would just laugh at such statement; It certainly does keep your skills sharp, as far as I’m concerned however it’s LVP and that’s an Autoland!
As a former pilot, you should know that that's just not true in the slightest. Safely landing a plane in poor visibility isn't easy, as I'm sure you'd know if you flew the 747. If you look at any other video not just on this channel but on the myriad of other channels from the pilot's perspective then you'll see that they all land manually, using autoland is not a common thing to do unless the conditions add risk to the landing.
You were not a real pilot to say some dumb things like that