It's also the scene that makes the back half of the movie make sense. Like, why did Roger take off? Why did Mimi go missing? They dated for a little bit, broke up, fought at the funeral, but Mimi running away makes no sense without the addition that she knows she's pretty close to dying and she still loves Roger deeply. "Goodbye love, hello disease" shows more of Mimi's fears than any other line in the movie. Being with Roger made her less "the girl with AIDS" and more a person, separate from her disease.
Also by that logic; they showed Collins holding a dead Angel. And Roger holding a dead Mimi. Two very intensely emotional scenes. Rent is literally an emotional roller coaster, that excuse they used for cutting this has always baffled me.
Adam asking "But Who Mark are YOU" is sooo important to this musical. Mark is the story's narrator, the main character who doesn't have AIDS and presumably, the one who the audience can relate to the most. When Roger asks Mark "who are YOU to judge" and says "yes you live a lie" what is really happening is Jonathan Larson turning the lens on to the audience who have sat there the whole time enjoying these funny little bohemian junkies and HIV-positive kids from a distance. He's reminding all of us-we shouldn't judge, because we ALL have shit to deal with and maybe we're not living our life as authentically as we should. Maybe we should actually be a little bit more like Mimi or Angel, imperfect as they are.
It was director Chris Columbus' decision. They should have never let him near this. He wanted to change his image by directing edgier material and when they gave him the opportunity to do it he got scared in the end and didn't trust the material, In his mission to soften the blow of the story's darker tone he wound up cutting this very important and crucial song in half. He's a wimp.
Columbus is a fucking idiot to begin with, and didn't deserve the chance to make this amazing production into a movie. This scene was crucial to the movie because you see where Mimi's trying, once again, to reach out to Roger and Roger pushes her away because he doesn't have the strength to be there for her final moments. It's too much of a reminder of what he himself will soon enough be going through. Roger's been waiting to die and Mimi made him live again.
It also explains the real reason Roger takes off. He picked Santa Fe probably when Angel was dying bc of the song Santa Fe, the fact that it was this illusion of perfection and freedom from their life. And he's leaving because he can't do what he just watched Collins do. And yeah, watch the movie enough times and you figure it out, but Mimi throws it up in his face in a way, with "you don't want to watch me die. I came to say goodbye, love..." Notice he just runs out, never echoes the line back to her. He can't tell her goodbye. But in Santa Fe, he still knows she's dying. He can't get away from the fact that she's still dying, she's just dying without him. So he comes home. And if you buy into the theory that Collins is also dying, Joanne and Maureen were happily living their life, Mimi had run away from rehab, and supposedly Roger was in Santa Fe, never to return, the reason Mark was on the roof at the end of "What You Own" to kill himself because basically everyone he loved was dead, dying, or otherwise gone, Roger's return saves Mark.
@@Ako8926 gets me too. I had a friend who's boyfriend broke up with her bc she was anorexic and he tried to help her but ultimately it was too much for him and he said he couldnt watch her die. It hits close to home since i was there amd saw them both in tears
I always cry when Mimi sings "You don't want to watch me die, I just came to say goodbye love." Because that's when it really hits you that she's dying, and that she's scared completely out of her mind because she's so young. But is also scared because she thinks that's the last time she will ever see Roger, and it's final. It's literally her last goodbye to the man she loves, or so she thought.
I also hate that we never find out how much longer she lives after her recovery when Roger sings to her, and that we never find out how much longer Roger and Collins live.
+Emily Pyles And when Roger says "Poor baby" after I'm already crying when Mark says "Maybe it's because I'm the one of us to survive" it makes me cry even harder because in those two words and the tears in his eyes he's basically saying that he's scared too, because he's dying, and he's pissed because Mark is detaching from emotion even then.
I have to agree. Many people fail to remember taking into consideration how old Mimi is in this production. The problem is they had Rosario Dawson, as epic a performer as she is, trying to pass off for a 19-year old. Not gonna happen.
When Mimi says "disease" in this song it's the same tune as "Mimi" in light my candle. It's like she's been completely consumed by her disease and that's all she is now IM SAD
"Perhaps it's because I'm the one of us to survive." This line hits me, with Mark having to watch everyone he loves around him die. In ten years, they'll be all but forgotten and he'll still be there, the only one left to remember or carry on their legacy. That's a tough burden. One of my friends in high school always said Mark reminded her of me and I always took that to me because I was the one of the group to basically be the narrator for the rest, watching over their lives. We all went our separate ways after graduation. It just happened, the natural progression of life, but sometimes, I wish I could go back to that time when I had a core group of friends I could rely on.
Pretty sure Maureen, Joanne and Benny will be with him too seeing as how; Roger, Mimi, Collins, and Angel all have AIDS/HIV but Maureen, Joanne, Benny, and Mark do not
"For someone who's always being let down, who's running out of town?" "For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera, alone?" WHY would they not include that line?
Mimi is a really tragic character when you sit and think about her. She's ill, an addict and broke on the street all by 19. She's essentially a teenager who left home and got tied up in a bad situation. Mimi fell in love with an older guy who didn't want to carry her impending death around. She's 19 and dying in this song. She's singing goodbye to any chance of love at 19. She's so young. And as someone who just celebrated her 19th birthday, I can't imagine going through anything like this. I know Mimi has a lot more depth to her, aside from her tragedies, but I have a new view of her now.
It amazes me how often I forget that Mimi is 19 when she looks more love me she's in her late 20s. But then again, she did also say the line "But I'm old for my age."
Actually everyone is supposed to be younger then they look. The whole reason they're played by adults is because they used the original Broadway Cast. That's why the original actresses who played Mimi and Joanne turned down their parts, because the two looked older then everyone else at the time and thought they wouldn't be believable in their old roles. Honestly a lot of the flaws the characters in Rent have make more sense when you realize how young they all really are. Mimi's 19. Benny and Roger and Mark and Maureen are the same age, in their mid to late 20s, cause they all went to school together. Joanne and Collins are closer to 30 because she's a lawyer and he's a college professor (although it says in the musical that Collins was expelled from MIT and only got a teaching gig as a last resort so he might be younger). Angel I'm not sure, since her character's more of a mystery.
Deleting this scene was the stupidest thing Columbus did. It would have made the movie from good to great. This scene, hands down, was his best-directed scene. It may be one of my favorite scenes in a movie-EVER. The acting was superb. Mark and Roger killed it in their fight. And Mimi and Roger? The angst in their eyes when they say goodbye. Even when Roger sees Benny and they share that look. Omg. Rent is so REAL. This scene is SO MANY FEELINGS. Larson was a freaking genius. May he rest in peace.
in addition to everything you said, i want to point out that you can see the nail polish mimi was doing her and angel’s nails with while in the hospital at 0:57. i just thought it added to the scene, even if just a bit
I really wish this was kept in the movie, not only would there be character development but later scenes would have made so much sense like 'What You Own' and why Mimi ran off and binged.
This "deleted scene" is incomplete. The title says (full deleted scene) but as I recall, after Roger says "I've gotta go", (3:15 mark), Mark yells: HEY! For someone who's always been let down, who's heading outta town? And Roger gets in his face and says: For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera, ALONE? Then Roger says "I'll call. I hate the fall."
Bummer that this was cut. It's the one thing I'd have kept in the movie. I feel like knowing that Benny paid for the funeral is important information. Not to mention Mark's "It's because I'm the one of us to survive" which just sums up his character and makes you REALLY feel for the guy in a way that never really comes up in the rest of the musical. I wasn't particularly fond of Mark before hearing that line; that's the sort of thing that just hits you over the head as you realize how unbelievably shit it would be the be the guy who has to bury every one of his friends and to know for a fact that one day, very soon, he'll be all alone.
+Caitlyn Conboy I loved Mark, but finding this deleted scene made me weep for him even more so. Its easy to die. Once your gone, its over for you. No more pain, fear, or loneliness.... its the ones left behind... Its the ones who suffer after you're absence that must continue going on. Continue to remember. Not going to turn this into a "how I should know" reply. I just love your point. how you validated Mark's position in this story. He's a great friend. A good person. And in the end he'd be alone to grieve and remember, remember everyone who's gone- their stories- their losses and triumphs. I can only imagine the concept of losing everyone I hold dear. Its a sorrow I would avoid as long as possible. And his simple statement "It's because I'm the one of us to survive", painfully tells his hollow future "to look forward to". I feel great empathy and understanding for him.
I agree with you, except for the part of how easy it is to die. Dying of AIDS is often a slow process, getting weaker over time and more pain comes without going. It has the fear of death, and when your friends have it as well, you can see them dying. Roger loves Mimi, but leaves because of fear. Mark isn't HIV positive and neither is his ex Maureen, and while he will be surviving behind them, it's not easier for Roger, who knows will survive Mimi and die after her. I feel for Mark, but understand Roger's "Poor baby" as well.
When Roger is going after Mark, "Mark's in love with his work, Mark hides in his work..." it really reflects how there's a simmering undertone of resentment between Roger and Mark, because Mark's health isn't compromised. But there's the reverse, as well, because Mark has to protect himself even a little, because he's slowly but surely having to bury all of the people he loves, and Angel's death was the first nail. Roger criticizes him for hiding in his work but never gets it that Mark's movie-making is his way of trying to paint into permanency those he loves. They're all also still reeling from grief of Angel's death, and the emotions are raw. I feel horrible for Mark, as he's one of only 3 people in this film who aren't HIV positive, but he loves his community, his people. even more than his own family. Worse, Roger doesn't realize it until it's almost too late. Leaving this scene out of the movie was a BIG mistake.
wow my brain doesn't work, and thank you for this comment, because I didn't get that he will bury them all in time....except maybe Benny ...but wow! I should have gotten that a heck of a freaking long time ago!
has anyone acknowledged that the only scene where Benny isn't an asshole is in this deleted scene then during I'll cover you reprise. This is only for the beginning when he pays for the funeral and hugs Collins
Technically, Benny’s only act of rudeness, was being blunt with the bum on his car…which anyone, wouldve been. Benny was never the villain. He offered: Free Rent, Free Loft, a Free Digital Art Studio, all his friends had to do was stopped the protest…they didnt, so, he went to the protest, he couldve skipped it, because he thought he had status to keep the cops from becoming uncivil…luckily his friends werent hurt, he couldve gone home but showed his face at the Life Cafe, cause he wanted to make sure his friends were okay. He Paid for Angel’s funeral, He paid for Mimi’s rehab…one could say he sold out but he did what he needed to get done to take care of his friends
I always pictured Roger constantly pushing/shoving Mark during the lines "yes you live a lie"-"detach from feeling alive" and Mark pushing back when he said "I'm the one of us to survive" but it just depends on the actors.
The purple otaku trash can mark doesn't really look like he wants to hit him he's just concerned for his friend and OMG to the person above me how can you not like the Broadway version! it's wayyyyy better then the movie!
Most of the deleted scenes in Rent were removed because the director felt they were "too much" As everyone else agrees, it is a huge mistake! This one scene builds so much character for everyone! Mimi, Mark, Roger, Benny. It also explains a little more about what happened leading to Roger leaving for Santa Fe ("What You Own") This (and "Halloween") are the only two scenes that actually shows Mark's fear of being alone. Seeing Angel pass away and nearing Mimi's passing is totally scaring the crap out of Mark because he's realizing, he's "the one of us to survive" And this is personal, but "Goodbye, Love" is also my favorite musical number, especially with whoever played Mimi's voice. Her voice is just beautiful, yet you can feel the pain in her goodbyes!
hitsuguyathe1 it made me like Benny, made him relatable. Not just paying for the funeral, but staying back to make Collins smile. "You just paid for the funeral of the person who killed your dog." "I know...I hated that dog."
I really wish they hadn't taken this out and I don't really know why. Does anyone know why they took this out? It really puts everything into perspective. You see what the characters are really thinking and feeling which explains why Mimi breaks up with Benny, why Rodger decided (stupidly) to leave, Benny's actual role in this whole thing, the other characters feeling towards Mark, and Mark and Rodgers relationship. Those were just the immediate things I could think of too. Not to mention how amazing this song is
+Amya Ride (Some Day) I think they took it out because through out the full movie Mark and Roger have spoken the dialogue (apart from in the song RENT), especially in the Loft, so having them sing at each other felt a bit strange and out of place. I agree thats it a good song and does clear up a lot of the questions some of the audience may have but I agree with Chris. I think when you look at the movie as a whole it works better without this scene.
Rachel Blakey I can respect that. I personally don't think it would have taken away or felt out of place, but I see where you're coming from. Agree to disagree :)
Rachel Blakey I can respect that. I personally don't think it would have taken away or felt out of place, but I see where you're coming from. Agree to disagree :)
Its a brilliant movie anyway lol. I think another part was for people who haven't seen the stage show version and is new to the whole movie-musical thing then it would seem a bit out of place :)
They probably deleted for story-telling reasons. It would make Mimi's disappearance more dramatic if, known to the viewer, that no one has seen Mimi since the funeral. At least thats my guess.
According to the director, he said seeing this right after I'll Cover You (Reprise) would be an "emotional overload". I think it's a strange reason but that's what I've read.
Mark is quite relatable to me. A creator constantly watching the hells of others, not sure that they really belong but taking comfort in being there for them, and struggling to create.
Sara James Exactly. Benny's character was well rounded in this scene. I always felt bad for Taye that they kept him as caricature, instead of showing that he did indeed have a soul.
this scene is SO sad, but I wish they hadn't cut it! also just an observation - Adam Pascal's performance of the song in the original broadway recording was so much more aggressive and angry. His voice sounds thinner in the movie for some reason. Not worse (I love his voice), just different.
I think hey wanted to give him a more "in pain" feeling than a "anger" feeling. You're right, I noticed it too, mostly in the "poor baby" line. Saying it softer, (to me, anyways) just made it seem like Roger was feeling more like he's almost regretting going. I kinda like the softer, les aggressive tone better :) what about you?
I think everyone sounded a little bit different, and while it might have to do with them all being older, I feel like it was more that they were aiming for a different kind of sound. It is film, after all, and not Broadway, and the two are very different. Adam Pascal just showed one of the most dramatic and comparative changes. However I don't think his voice has actually diminished in quality or power at all, as opposed to Idina Menzel, who has done a lot of damage to her voice over the years from all her belting and hollering (and I love her, I really do!) He struck me as having really good vocal technique even in his early years. There are some tracks in the original that I thought he was better in, and some in the movie that I prefer. I'm just a huge fan of his and I think he's seriously under appreciated! I saw him in Memphis on Broadway a few years ago and I liked him more than the show itself (it was good, just not the most memorable show I've seen).
Haha, yea you're right! I don't know many of the cast in this movie except Anthony Rapp and Idina Menzel (because I saw their new musical together, "If/Then") and I have noticed a change in both of their voices. I love Pascal's voice when he's singing softly, like in "Light my Candle," but I don't like that rock-star voice he uses in this number, or "What You Own" xD
I was going to see If/Then because there were cheap tickets on TodayTix but they doubled in price before I had the chance to buy them :( I LOVE Adam Pascal's steely hard-rock vocals, but that's a personal preference. What you have to applaud him on though is actually knowing how to use his voice and also incorporate that kind of sound. It's easy to just scream and destroy your vocal cords, which a lot of famous rock singers (Stephen Tyler, for example) have done, but he hasn't done that. He's a powerhouse and a good singer.
If/Then was also a great show, but all in all, I think Rent is overall better. More depth, more emotion. If/Then is still amazing! Don't get me wrong there, lol. And yes, I can agree with you there about Adam. He has amazing control, and I can respect that. Haha
"You just paid for the funeral of someone who killed your dog." OHMYGOD GUYS. Today 4 U. ANGEL KILLED BENNY'S DOG. PERFECT WAY TO LIGHTEN A MOOD FOR ONE OF THE SADDEST SCENES THERE IS IN THE MOVIE
It is also mentioned in La Vie Boheme in the very beginning. When Angel goes "Who died?", Benny replied "Our Akita." Then, Roger and Mark make the connection and both say "Evita!"
So heartbreakingly relatable. I don't have HIV/AIDS or other STDs, but I do have a ton of medical issues, among other problems, and this is very much like how most relationships feel and end, with me essentially in Mimi's position; left behind to endure while so many run away from me and my baggage. I was lucky to fall back on family now, but half the household openly despises me and ignores me when they aren't picking fights and pitching insults. I said goodbye to their love some time ago.
This scene and Halloween we're especially crucial. If not crucial, beautiful. This makes you tear up. These men whom you've grown to feel for have actual feelings. They're not the people we see now in stuff like Magic Mike(just for reference, don't bash me). It makes you want to hold these characters close and tell them it'll be fine. And the cut out portion of the song was crucial too! This movie was great but they cut too much. Mark:Hey! For someone whose always been let down who's running out of town? Roger:For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera? Alone? ... I'll call..... I hate the fall. This HURTS it truly HURTS you. These two are best friends. Have been for years. This is the goodbye that people can relate to. The argument you never meant to have that destroyed what you believed was the best relationship ever.
+KrazyKirstie Yeah, Roger leaving Mimi obviously hurts their a romantic relationship, but the exchange between Mark and Roger is catastrophically damaging. It shows exactly how much they know/care for each other and they each stab the other right in the heart of who they are as human beings. It's intense and raw and I'm so frustrated it was left out.
+KrazyKirstie With the fight between Mark and Roger, calling each other out in a way that makes their friendship implode, it also give more impact of the hug at the end of What you Own. Without this scene, the last time we see Roger and Mark together, they are still best friends. (Mark tries to calm the others at the funeral)It's nice to see him finally get fed up too. So with this scene, you see them fight, then in What You Own, they go back to being friends, realizing neither truly meant what he said last time they saw each other.
Really hate that they cut this scene. As the movie was my first proper exposure to RENT, not having this scene made so many things in the last half hour or so very confusing. One of my favourite parts now. But Roger defs should've been getting angrier; Mark too.
My sister and I have watched Rent since about 2007. We both know the lines, the songs and the history for the most part. It wasn't until we were having fun one day on RUclips that we found these deleted scenes (we didn't have the DVD for a long time), Halloween and the full version of Goodbye Love. And like everyone on here, we can't understand why those two deleted scenes were DELETED! Immediately when we found them, we re-watched the movie, paused right before Angel's ceremony to watch "Halloween", then paused after the funeral scene, watched Goodbye Love... and everything - literally EVERYTHING - in the move made so, so, so, so much more sense! Mark was always my favorite character, but these two scenes solidified my love for him, Rodger and Mimi.
I feel like adding this scene would a lot more to the movie's plot, and it would help those who were confused during the Mimi/ Roger dialogue in the Finale. Not to mention this was just so damn amazing
I had always assumed that the dialogue was something that I just didn't understand because I missed something. I did miss something that wasn't in the movie, but should've been.
This scene is so so so important. Whenever I listened to the soundtrack and Mimi said "please don't touch me understand I'm scared" I imagined it was Roger touching and comforting her but it was actually Benny and we don't even get to see that. So Roger just left and didn't even try to console her, and Benny actually got some character redemption. Not to mention how important this scene and Halloween is for Mark
They really need to re-release this film digitally with this scene included. The reasoning for deleting it was the worst - if I recall correctly (after 10+ years) Columbus says something in the commentary about the audience being too emotional for it after Angel's Funeral scene. The show has been performed for how many years, and some dude comes along and says it doesn't work? Sure dude. I love this movie but I can't sit through it in its entirety without getting disproportionately angry that this scene was removed and how it doesn't make any reasonable sense.
The frustrating thing is he was planning on released an extended DVD that put the deleted scenes back in the film but the movie didn't do well enough for him to get the money to do that.
+Stayweird Aj They did cut it because initially they were outside so it would make more sense to say that with the leaves and stuff, saying you hate the fall now doesn't quite make as much sense, like why think of Fall then, I guess
+Stashia Jackson not only that, but in the movie mark and roger have never sang to eachother (except in the beginning) they felt it didnt fit and it was out of their character and seemed weird to have them directly singing to eachother. this is comming from the directors commentary on the dvd.
Katherine: What? Have you never seen the Broadway version? Roger and Mark sang together several times: "Rent", "Goodbye Love", "You're Not Alone" are all points in which they sing together. You're Not Alone is a particularly poignant one, as they're struggling through their common pains and are coming to realize that splitting was the worst mistake they could've made.
The original lines were: MARK Mimi still loves Roger Is Roger really jealous, Or afraid that Mimi's weak? ROGER Mimi did look pale MARK Mimi's gotten thin, Mimi's running out of time. Roger's running out the door!
Holy shit. Mark's breathing from 3:35-3:40. Amazing acting!! And Roger and Mimi at the end-so much angst and pain. This scene is beautiful. He was a fool to cut it.
@@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649 Nope. In the original show, Maureen and Joanne never got engaged. Instead, they were rehearsing to put together another protest performance, and that's when the fight broke out during Take Me or Leave Me.
This scene is so important to the story. Its 5 minutes theres so many scenes they couldve cut instead of this one. Everytime i show this movie to someone i stop it and play them this where its supposed to be in the movie. So important.
From the first time I watched this, til years later. This song always makes me feel and cry no matter how many times I watch it, the longing and love are so real.
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Does anyone know if they're doing anything special for the movie this year seeing as it's the 10 year anniversary? Personally I hope they rerelease it in Theaters, uncut with this scene.
If they needed to cut a song it should of been 'Living in America' - it was a bad filming disruption in the movie. Goodbye Love is a very important song to the story line and the characters development. GRR. Plus any extra screen time with Rosario Dawson is a plus.
It's integral to the film. without it how would the audience know that mark quit his job, figured out what to do for his film, how would they explain how roger ended up back with Mark, how he figured out his song? It would've ruined the movie without the song lol the ending wouldn't make sense
I played Mimi almost a year ago, and my favourite lines were "You don't want to watch me die" and "And hello, disease" I had to theatrically cry at those points, but I was genuinely crying because of Mimi's situation.
That's incredible. I honestly cannot imagine Mimi not crying when she's saying goodbye to the very man she loves more than anyone and she's slowly embracing the very disease that's killing her. I think it's awesome how you gave Mimi those crying moments during her parts of the song (despite it already being planned).
Now it even make sense why mark stands on the roof at what you own because all is breaking down and he want to take his own life. But then Roger cames exactly back when he screems "I quit" at the moment he want to jump but Roger saves his life and NOW I'M Sad and when Roger screems "who mark are you" and mark "I'm the one of us to survive" it's clear... Mark the main person who got no own story.. He's just surviving and rent is about to find out who he is
I love this scene makes me cry every Roger and Mark are real friends mark telling Roger to stay and fight for what he believe and to stop running from his past
Worst decision ever to cut this. This is one of the ost moving and shockingly real moments in the musical. As Mimi sings goodbye love you can truly feel the utter fear welling up inside her. She's 19 and she's dying. Goodbye love, goodbye any chance of love, goodbye LIFE! Mimi up until this point has survived by not giving one thought to the disease or her addiction. She's just lived in the moment and tried to have fun, but now for the first time she's thinking about what happens next and it terrifies her. And that's only some of why this moment was important to Mimi, without going into the massive effect of Mark and Roger and the importance of these moments between them. ugh this scene just has so much packed into it and was so important.
I will never forgive Chris Columbus for removing this scene. The pain in their faces, in their voices. The meaning of this song, their character developments... Such a strong and beautiful scene. WHYYYYYY, Columbus?
Okay so first time listening to this song and I just had some feelings. 1. Mark's motives as a character becomes much clearer, before it was like "he left his home and went to Manhattan and stayed there because he hates his parents???" but now it becomes more "He left home to pursue his passion in filming, as he got to meet more people he got more wrapped up in making sure they and their stories were remembered, whilst dealing with the pain of knowing that his friends are going to die". I kind of think that the whole "Mark is numb" thing poses the question of if Mark is depressed. I may be reaching but it certainly feels that way and like looking back at earlier scenes that may have been true for quite a while, but hey I might be imagining things. 2. mORE GOOD SIDE BENY YAY!!! 3. This explains more why Rogers decided to to go to Santa Fe, like I kinda felt that it was unmotivated unless he was chasing the dream Collins had proposed in the song Santa Fe. Him leaving so he can't get hurt? Really important to show in my opinion. 4. The fact that this shows Mimi getting worse makes it weird that they cut this out, without this scene it's easy to interpret that she just misses Rogers and Angel and gets worse later on. But this shows her getting worse and gives as stated in the song another reason for Rogers to want to leave. 5. I always thought it was strange that Mark and Rogers who seemed to have gone through a lot together just never adressed Rogers leaving but this clears that up. 6. I can't tell if Mark brings up Mimi because he thinks Rogers would stay because of her, or because Mark thinks that he (for lack of better wording) isn't good enough to stay for, I might be overanalyzing the way he goes "There's me there's Mimi" Makes it seem like he's either coaxing Rogers or right after he sings "There's me." He realizes that it won't be enough and adds "There's Mimi". I don't know though I just this song has a lot of emotions and I wasn't prepared for any of them so this might be my brain working a bit weirdly after having me cry for like 15 minutes.
this was so integral to mark and roger's friendship and really showing how hurt mark is that his best friend is willingly leaving him, not to mention mimi going to rehab.
Thank you for sharing this! I can't believe they cut this out. It really does add to the movie and puts other pieces together. Once again, thank you for posting the video! =)
So this is by far my favorite song from rent, and even though this scene isn’t in the movie, it’s my favorite scene. My favorite part of this song is the end, where mark starts with “Hey! For someone who’s always been let down, who’s heading out of town?”. Not sure why they left that part off. Anyways, I’m glad we are still able to see the deleted scenes!
ugh! even in 2018 this frustrates me!! throughout the movie, you see every characters baggage, of sorts... except for mark. i had watched the movie before actually watching the real uncut performance, and i don't see why they would cut this scene other than the fact that the director's an idiot. the song had actually given us peeks of (along with halloween) that mark had some of this "baggage" too, just internally, a conflict within himself instead of with a partner. when watching the movie, i was wondering why mark seemed like such a perfect character, and not, ya know, having an internal crisis because all of his friends have HIV and are poor and depressed? turns out he was, but the idiot who was entrusted with this musical decided that this was uneeded??? i think that even in the REAl musical they could have touched on mark's baggage more... this was just a little rant, but i think an easy solution would just be to release an uncut version like The Outsiders did. im sure the rent hype has to be there somewhere and i know at least i would watch it. :) thx for reading!!
i swear cutting this scene was a massive mistake like
who cares if it's an emotional overload??? that's the point??? im so mad
If you're watching Rent, you're already in for emotional overload.
It's also the scene that makes the back half of the movie make sense. Like, why did Roger take off? Why did Mimi go missing? They dated for a little bit, broke up, fought at the funeral, but Mimi running away makes no sense without the addition that she knows she's pretty close to dying and she still loves Roger deeply. "Goodbye love, hello disease" shows more of Mimi's fears than any other line in the movie. Being with Roger made her less "the girl with AIDS" and more a person, separate from her disease.
I always pause the movie and watch this part on RUclips, then continue.
I’m agree of you, cutting the best scene is the biggest mistake.
Also by that logic; they showed Collins holding a dead Angel. And Roger holding a dead Mimi. Two very intensely emotional scenes. Rent is literally an emotional roller coaster, that excuse they used for cutting this has always baffled me.
Adam asking "But Who Mark are YOU" is sooo important to this musical. Mark is the story's narrator, the main character who doesn't have AIDS and presumably, the one who the audience can relate to the most. When Roger asks Mark "who are YOU to judge" and says "yes you live a lie" what is really happening is Jonathan Larson turning the lens on to the audience who have sat there the whole time enjoying these funny little bohemian junkies and HIV-positive kids from a distance. He's reminding all of us-we shouldn't judge, because we ALL have shit to deal with and maybe we're not living our life as authentically as we should. Maybe we should actually be a little bit more like Mimi or Angel, imperfect as they are.
This comment is perfect.
Awww thank you :)
This is my favorite musical of ALL time. What you have pointed out makes me love this musical even more. Thank you.
+Linz9385 That makes me happy :) xoxo
+Nadia D but that doesn't even make sense...
Who's bright idea was it to cut this emotional, crucial piece of character development out of the film?
It was director Chris Columbus' decision. They should have never let him near this. He wanted to change his image by directing edgier material and when they gave him the opportunity to do it he got scared in the end and didn't trust the material, In his mission to soften the blow of the story's darker tone he wound up cutting this very important and crucial song in half. He's a wimp.
Columbus is a fucking idiot to begin with, and didn't deserve the chance to make this amazing production into a movie. This scene was crucial to the movie because you see where Mimi's trying, once again, to reach out to Roger and Roger pushes her away because he doesn't have the strength to be there for her final moments. It's too much of a reminder of what he himself will soon enough be going through. Roger's been waiting to die and Mimi made him live again.
It also explains the real reason Roger takes off. He picked Santa Fe probably when Angel was dying bc of the song Santa Fe, the fact that it was this illusion of perfection and freedom from their life. And he's leaving because he can't do what he just watched Collins do. And yeah, watch the movie enough times and you figure it out, but Mimi throws it up in his face in a way, with "you don't want to watch me die. I came to say goodbye, love..." Notice he just runs out, never echoes the line back to her. He can't tell her goodbye. But in Santa Fe, he still knows she's dying. He can't get away from the fact that she's still dying, she's just dying without him. So he comes home. And if you buy into the theory that Collins is also dying, Joanne and Maureen were happily living their life, Mimi had run away from rehab, and supposedly Roger was in Santa Fe, never to return, the reason Mark was on the roof at the end of "What You Own" to kill himself because basically everyone he loved was dead, dying, or otherwise gone, Roger's return saves Mark.
Brittany Coker I never though ab that.. he is on he building & he yells “ I quit ! “ right before Roger walks in... 😮
I would not encourage anyone to see this movie except for a supreme example of taking a great Broadway musical and turning it to shit.
This and Halloween are literally Mark's most important scenes as a character and both were cut. Mark's barely a person without those scenes.
I concur
I thought I was crazy. I listened to to the recording and realized that I hadn’t heard theese a songs and I loved them and I was so confused.
Halloween is designed for the theatre format so it doesn't fits to the movie, in my opinion.
"Mimi's running out of time, and you're running out the door."
Gets me every time.
Mary Hales “Mimi’s running out of time, AND YOURE RUNNING OUT THE DOOR!” 😭
Also the part where Mimi said "You don't to watch me to die?" Daamm😩😭😭
@@Ako8926 gets me too. I had a friend who's boyfriend broke up with her bc she was anorexic and he tried to help her but ultimately it was too much for him and he said he couldnt watch her die. It hits close to home since i was there amd saw them both in tears
I always cry when Mimi sings "You don't want to watch me die, I just came to say goodbye love." Because that's when it really hits you that she's dying, and that she's scared completely out of her mind because she's so young. But is also scared because she thinks that's the last time she will ever see Roger, and it's final. It's literally her last goodbye to the man she loves, or so she thought.
I also hate that we never find out how much longer she lives after her recovery when Roger sings to her, and that we never find out how much longer Roger and Collins live.
+Emily Pyles And when Roger says "Poor baby" after I'm already crying when Mark says "Maybe it's because I'm the one of us to survive" it makes me cry even harder because in those two words and the tears in his eyes he's basically saying that he's scared too, because he's dying, and he's pissed because Mark is detaching from emotion even then.
I have to agree. Many people fail to remember taking into consideration how old Mimi is in this production. The problem is they had Rosario Dawson, as epic a performer as she is, trying to pass off for a 19-year old. Not gonna happen.
@Jéssica Andrade im crying from the start of Angel's funeral until the end of Goodbye, Love
When Mimi says "disease" in this song it's the same tune as "Mimi" in light my candle. It's like she's been completely consumed by her disease and that's all she is now IM SAD
Well spotted. A well used leitmotif moment there that underlines her downward spiral.
i noticed that too!
Now that you’ve mentioned that, the entire song sounds like Light My Candle played in a minor key at a slower tempo...
Lol I always thought she said Disney for some reason
@@alexpauu Oh I always thought it said dizzies I'm slow 🤣
"Perhaps it's because I'm the one of us to survive." This line hits me, with Mark having to watch everyone he loves around him die. In ten years, they'll be all but forgotten and he'll still be there, the only one left to remember or carry on their legacy. That's a tough burden.
One of my friends in high school always said Mark reminded her of me and I always took that to me because I was the one of the group to basically be the narrator for the rest, watching over their lives. We all went our separate ways after graduation. It just happened, the natural progression of life, but sometimes, I wish I could go back to that time when I had a core group of friends I could rely on.
Lightshade393 I
I just hung out with my old high school beasties for the first time in years so I totally get it.
Pretty sure Maureen, Joanne and Benny will be with him too seeing as how; Roger, Mimi, Collins, and Angel all have AIDS/HIV but Maureen, Joanne, Benny, and Mark do not
"For someone who's always being let down, who's running out of town?"
"For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera, alone?"
WHY would they not include that line?
TheAngelbaby9 that’s my favorite couple of lines and I am pissed they are not in there
Mimi is a really tragic character when you sit and think about her. She's ill, an addict and broke on the street all by 19. She's essentially a teenager who left home and got tied up in a bad situation. Mimi fell in love with an older guy who didn't want to carry her impending death around. She's 19 and dying in this song. She's singing goodbye to any chance of love at 19. She's so young. And as someone who just celebrated her 19th birthday, I can't imagine going through anything like this. I know Mimi has a lot more depth to her, aside from her tragedies, but I have a new view of her now.
so true and but she is 19 in the beginning and it is a year later so she must be 20 ( if she is not lying in the beginning )
It amazes me how often I forget that Mimi is 19 when she looks more love me she's in her late 20s. But then again, she did also say the line "But I'm old for my age."
Actually everyone is supposed to be younger then they look. The whole reason they're played by adults is because they used the original Broadway Cast. That's why the original actresses who played Mimi and Joanne turned down their parts, because the two looked older then everyone else at the time and thought they wouldn't be believable in their old roles. Honestly a lot of the flaws the characters in Rent have make more sense when you realize how young they all really are. Mimi's 19. Benny and Roger and Mark and Maureen are the same age, in their mid to late 20s, cause they all went to school together. Joanne and Collins are closer to 30 because she's a lawyer and he's a college professor (although it says in the musical that Collins was expelled from MIT and only got a teaching gig as a last resort so he might be younger). Angel I'm not sure, since her character's more of a mystery.
The songs called Valentine's Day
could they really not spare 5 extra minutes of screentime...
"Please, don't touch me, understand... I'm scared, I need to go away..." breaks my heart every time!
Deleting this scene: biggest mistake ever made!!
"You don't want baggage, without lifetime guarantees. You don't want to watch me die." My heart stops every time I hear that.
Deleting this scene was the stupidest thing Columbus did. It would have made the movie from good to great. This scene, hands down, was his best-directed scene. It may be one of my favorite scenes in a movie-EVER. The acting was superb. Mark and Roger killed it in their fight. And Mimi and Roger? The angst in their eyes when they say goodbye. Even when Roger sees Benny and they share that look. Omg. Rent is so REAL. This scene is SO MANY FEELINGS. Larson was a freaking genius. May he rest in peace.
in addition to everything you said, i want to point out that you can see the nail polish mimi was doing her and angel’s nails with while in the hospital at 0:57. i just thought it added to the scene, even if just a bit
I really wish this was kept in the movie, not only would there be character development but later scenes would have made so much sense like 'What You Own' and why Mimi ran off and binged.
This "deleted scene" is incomplete. The title says (full deleted scene) but as I recall, after Roger says "I've gotta go", (3:15 mark), Mark yells:
HEY! For someone who's always been let down, who's heading outta town?
And Roger gets in his face and says:
For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera, ALONE?
Then Roger says "I'll call. I hate the fall."
Truth.
Dylan Titanium YES I REMEMBER THAT
Dylan Titanium I think they just wanted to make that scene shorter so they got rid of that part
Dylan Titanium yes there was I was just listening to another vision of this and it was In there
Dylan Titanium yes there was I was just listening to another vision of this and it was In there
Bummer that this was cut. It's the one thing I'd have kept in the movie. I feel like knowing that Benny paid for the funeral is important information.
Not to mention Mark's "It's because I'm the one of us to survive" which just sums up his character and makes you REALLY feel for the guy in a way that never really comes up in the rest of the musical.
I wasn't particularly fond of Mark before hearing that line; that's the sort of thing that just hits you over the head as you realize how unbelievably shit it would be the be the guy who has to bury every one of his friends and to know for a fact that one day, very soon, he'll be all alone.
+Caitlyn Conboy I loved Mark, but finding this deleted scene made me weep for him even more so. Its easy to die. Once your gone, its over for you. No more pain, fear, or loneliness.... its the ones left behind... Its the ones who suffer after you're absence that must continue going on. Continue to remember.
Not going to turn this into a "how I should know" reply. I just love your point. how you validated Mark's position in this story. He's a great friend. A good person. And in the end he'd be alone to grieve and remember, remember everyone who's gone- their stories- their losses and triumphs. I can only imagine the concept of losing everyone I hold dear. Its a sorrow I would avoid as long as possible.
And his simple statement "It's because I'm the one of us to survive", painfully tells his hollow future "to look forward to". I feel great empathy and understanding for him.
I agree with you, except for the part of how easy it is to die. Dying of AIDS is often a slow process, getting weaker over time and more pain comes without going. It has the fear of death, and when your friends have it as well, you can see them dying. Roger loves Mimi, but leaves because of fear. Mark isn't HIV positive and neither is his ex Maureen, and while he will be surviving behind them, it's not easier for Roger, who knows will survive Mimi and die after her.
I feel for Mark, but understand Roger's "Poor baby" as well.
When Roger is going after Mark, "Mark's in love with his work, Mark hides in his work..." it really reflects how there's a simmering undertone of resentment between Roger and Mark, because Mark's health isn't compromised. But there's the reverse, as well, because Mark has to protect himself even a little, because he's slowly but surely having to bury all of the people he loves, and Angel's death was the first nail. Roger criticizes him for hiding in his work but never gets it that Mark's movie-making is his way of trying to paint into permanency those he loves. They're all also still reeling from grief of Angel's death, and the emotions are raw. I feel horrible for Mark, as he's one of only 3 people in this film who aren't HIV positive, but he loves his community, his people. even more than his own family. Worse, Roger doesn't realize it until it's almost too late. Leaving this scene out of the movie was a BIG mistake.
Caitlyn Conboy its in the play I think.
wow my brain doesn't work, and thank you for this comment, because I didn't get that he will bury them all in time....except maybe Benny ...but wow! I should have gotten that a heck of a freaking long time ago!
has anyone acknowledged that the only scene where Benny isn't an asshole is in this deleted scene then during I'll cover you reprise. This is only for the beginning when he pays for the funeral and hugs Collins
Technically, Benny’s only act of rudeness, was being blunt with the bum on his car…which anyone, wouldve been. Benny was never the villain. He offered: Free Rent, Free Loft, a Free Digital Art Studio, all his friends had to do was stopped the protest…they didnt, so, he went to the protest, he couldve skipped it, because he thought he had status to keep the cops from becoming uncivil…luckily his friends werent hurt, he couldve gone home but showed his face at the Life Cafe, cause he wanted to make sure his friends were okay. He Paid for Angel’s funeral, He paid for Mimi’s rehab…one could say he sold out but he did what he needed to get done to take care of his friends
Mark has admirable self control , to keep from hitting Roger.
I always pictured Roger constantly pushing/shoving Mark during the lines "yes you live a lie"-"detach from feeling alive" and Mark pushing back when he said "I'm the one of us to survive" but it just depends on the actors.
+Vanguardmetrics watch the Broadway version with Adam kantor and will chase, they get pretty into it
Not a fan of the Broadway version.
The purple otaku trash can mark doesn't really look like he wants to hit him he's just concerned for his friend and OMG to the person above me how can you not like the Broadway version! it's wayyyyy better then the movie!
Luna Reaper i prefer the movie, I believe it was more professional and more genuine.
Most of the deleted scenes in Rent were removed because the director felt they were "too much"
As everyone else agrees, it is a huge mistake! This one scene builds so much character for everyone! Mimi, Mark, Roger, Benny. It also explains a little more about what happened leading to Roger leaving for Santa Fe ("What You Own") This (and "Halloween") are the only two scenes that actually shows Mark's fear of being alone. Seeing Angel pass away and nearing Mimi's passing is totally scaring the crap out of Mark because he's realizing, he's "the one of us to survive"
And this is personal, but "Goodbye, Love" is also my favorite musical number, especially with whoever played Mimi's voice. Her voice is just beautiful, yet you can feel the pain in her goodbyes!
hitsuguyathe1 it made me like Benny, made him relatable. Not just paying for the funeral, but staying back to make Collins smile. "You just paid for the funeral of the person who killed your dog." "I know...I hated that dog."
I found the end confusing without this scene. Explains so much.
I really wish they hadn't taken this out and I don't really know why. Does anyone know why they took this out? It really puts everything into perspective. You see what the characters are really thinking and feeling which explains why Mimi breaks up with Benny, why Rodger decided (stupidly) to leave, Benny's actual role in this whole thing, the other characters feeling towards Mark, and Mark and Rodgers relationship. Those were just the immediate things I could think of too. Not to mention how amazing this song is
+Amya Ride (Some Day) I think they took it out because through out the full movie Mark and Roger have spoken the dialogue (apart from in the song RENT), especially in the Loft, so having them sing at each other felt a bit strange and out of place. I agree thats it a good song and does clear up a lot of the questions some of the audience may have but I agree with Chris. I think when you look at the movie as a whole it works better without this scene.
Rachel Blakey
I can respect that. I personally don't think it would have taken away or felt out of place, but I see where you're coming from. Agree to disagree :)
Rachel Blakey
I can respect that. I personally don't think it would have taken away or felt out of place, but I see where you're coming from. Agree to disagree :)
Its a brilliant movie anyway lol. I think another part was for people who haven't seen the stage show version and is new to the whole movie-musical thing then it would seem a bit out of place :)
I know, right? This is one of the better songs...
After seeing this, a lot more of the movie makes sense to me. Why did they delete this?
They probably deleted for story-telling reasons. It would make Mimi's disappearance more dramatic if, known to the viewer, that no one has seen Mimi since the funeral. At least thats my guess.
+SuperLilAnime that makes sense to me now!
According to the director, he said seeing this right after I'll Cover You (Reprise) would be an "emotional overload". I think it's a strange reason but that's what I've read.
lol no it would not have been
Aiyana Land Yeah...I don't really agree with their decision of cutting this scene out. One of my favorite songs from the musical.
Both Mark and Roger look so hurt in this scene. It makes me so emotional but the song is really good. I wish they hadn't removed this scene.
ROGER, GET YOUR ASS BACK IN THE HOUSE AND TELL MIMI YOU LOVE HER BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU DO!!!!
^^^^^^THIS!!!!^^^^^^
Storm Angelus hehe
Mark is quite relatable to me. A creator constantly watching the hells of others, not sure that they really belong but taking comfort in being there for them, and struggling to create.
WHOA. This actually makes me not hate Benny as much as I used to
Sara James Exactly. Benny's character was well rounded in this scene. I always felt bad for Taye that they kept him as caricature, instead of showing that he did indeed have a soul.
Well if someone kills your dog for you, the least you can do is pay for their funeral
this scene is SO sad, but I wish they hadn't cut it!
also just an observation - Adam Pascal's performance of the song in the original broadway recording was so much more aggressive and angry. His voice sounds thinner in the movie for some reason. Not worse (I love his voice), just different.
I think hey wanted to give him a more "in pain" feeling than a "anger" feeling. You're right, I noticed it too, mostly in the "poor baby" line.
Saying it softer, (to me, anyways) just made it seem like Roger was feeling more like he's almost regretting going.
I kinda like the softer, les aggressive tone better :) what about you?
I think everyone sounded a little bit different, and while it might have to do with them all being older, I feel like it was more that they were aiming for a different kind of sound. It is film, after all, and not Broadway, and the two are very different. Adam Pascal just showed one of the most dramatic and comparative changes. However I don't think his voice has actually diminished in quality or power at all, as opposed to Idina Menzel, who has done a lot of damage to her voice over the years from all her belting and hollering (and I love her, I really do!) He struck me as having really good vocal technique even in his early years. There are some tracks in the original that I thought he was better in, and some in the movie that I prefer. I'm just a huge fan of his and I think he's seriously under appreciated! I saw him in Memphis on Broadway a few years ago and I liked him more than the show itself (it was good, just not the most memorable show I've seen).
Haha, yea you're right! I don't know many of the cast in this movie except Anthony Rapp and Idina Menzel (because I saw their new musical together, "If/Then") and I have noticed a change in both of their voices.
I love Pascal's voice when he's singing softly, like in "Light my Candle," but I don't like that rock-star voice he uses in this number, or "What You Own" xD
I was going to see If/Then because there were cheap tickets on TodayTix but they doubled in price before I had the chance to buy them :(
I LOVE Adam Pascal's steely hard-rock vocals, but that's a personal preference. What you have to applaud him on though is actually knowing how to use his voice and also incorporate that kind of sound. It's easy to just scream and destroy your vocal cords, which a lot of famous rock singers (Stephen Tyler, for example) have done, but he hasn't done that. He's a powerhouse and a good singer.
If/Then was also a great show, but all in all, I think Rent is overall better. More depth, more emotion. If/Then is still amazing! Don't get me wrong there, lol.
And yes, I can agree with you there about Adam. He has amazing control, and I can respect that. Haha
"You just paid for the funeral of someone who killed your dog."
OHMYGOD GUYS. Today 4 U.
ANGEL KILLED BENNY'S DOG. PERFECT WAY TO LIGHTEN A MOOD FOR ONE OF THE SADDEST SCENES THERE IS IN THE MOVIE
It is also mentioned in La Vie Boheme in the very beginning. When Angel goes "Who died?", Benny replied "Our Akita." Then, Roger and Mark make the connection and both say "Evita!"
So heartbreakingly relatable. I don't have HIV/AIDS or other STDs, but I do have a ton of medical issues, among other problems, and this is very much like how most relationships feel and end, with me essentially in Mimi's position; left behind to endure while so many run away from me and my baggage. I was lucky to fall back on family now, but half the household openly despises me and ignores me when they aren't picking fights and pitching insults. I said goodbye to their love some time ago.
This scene and Halloween we're especially crucial. If not crucial, beautiful. This makes you tear up. These men whom you've grown to feel for have actual feelings. They're not the people we see now in stuff like Magic Mike(just for reference, don't bash me). It makes you want to hold these characters close and tell them it'll be fine. And the cut out portion of the song was crucial too! This movie was great but they cut too much.
Mark:Hey! For someone whose always been let down who's running out of town?
Roger:For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera? Alone?
... I'll call..... I hate the fall.
This HURTS it truly HURTS you. These two are best friends. Have been for years. This is the goodbye that people can relate to. The argument you never meant to have that destroyed what you believed was the best relationship ever.
When I mentioned Halloween, I was referring to the song within the scene also. Mainly the song but whatever.
+KrazyKirstie Yeah, Roger leaving Mimi obviously hurts their a romantic relationship, but the exchange between Mark and Roger is catastrophically damaging. It shows exactly how much they know/care for each other and they each stab the other right in the heart of who they are as human beings. It's intense and raw and I'm so frustrated it was left out.
+KrazyKirstie With the fight between Mark and Roger, calling each other out in a way that makes their friendship implode, it also give more impact of the hug at the end of What you Own. Without this scene, the last time we see Roger and Mark together, they are still best friends. (Mark tries to calm the others at the funeral)It's nice to see him finally get fed up too.
So with this scene, you see them fight, then in What You Own, they go back to being friends, realizing neither truly meant what he said last time they saw each other.
Really hate that they cut this scene. As the movie was my first proper exposure to RENT, not having this scene made so many things in the last half hour or so very confusing. One of my favourite parts now. But Roger defs should've been getting angrier; Mark too.
My sister and I have watched Rent since about 2007. We both know the lines, the songs and the history for the most part. It wasn't until we were having fun one day on RUclips that we found these deleted scenes (we didn't have the DVD for a long time), Halloween and the full version of Goodbye Love. And like everyone on here, we can't understand why those two deleted scenes were DELETED! Immediately when we found them, we re-watched the movie, paused right before Angel's ceremony to watch "Halloween", then paused after the funeral scene, watched Goodbye Love... and everything - literally EVERYTHING - in the move made so, so, so, so much more sense! Mark was always my favorite character, but these two scenes solidified my love for him, Rodger and Mimi.
It's a shame this scene ended up on the cutting room floor, because it's so illuminating and character-building.
Collins has Angel's drum sticks :(
I feel like adding this scene would a lot more to the movie's plot, and it would help those who were confused during the Mimi/ Roger dialogue in the Finale.
Not to mention this was just so damn amazing
+Samantha Cortez exactly. I've never seen the musical, only the movie. Until I saw this I was extremely confused
I had always assumed that the dialogue was something that I just didn't understand because I missed something. I did miss something that wasn't in the movie, but should've been.
The key change when Mimi sings goodbye love always gives me chills
This scene is so so so important. Whenever I listened to the soundtrack and Mimi said "please don't touch me understand I'm scared" I imagined it was Roger touching and comforting her but it was actually Benny and we don't even get to see that. So Roger just left and didn't even try to console her, and Benny actually got some character redemption.
Not to mention how important this scene and Halloween is for Mark
They really need to re-release this film digitally with this scene included. The reasoning for deleting it was the worst - if I recall correctly (after 10+ years) Columbus says something in the commentary about the audience being too emotional for it after Angel's Funeral scene. The show has been performed for how many years, and some dude comes along and says it doesn't work? Sure dude. I love this movie but I can't sit through it in its entirety without getting disproportionately angry that this scene was removed and how it doesn't make any reasonable sense.
The frustrating thing is he was planning on released an extended DVD that put the deleted scenes back in the film but the movie didn't do well enough for him to get the money to do that.
Every time I watch this movie on Bluray, I stop to watch where this scene should've been in the movie before continuing.
I am I crazy or did they cut out the part where he said,"Ill call, I hate the fall"
+Stayweird Aj They did cut it because initially they were outside so it would make more sense to say that with the leaves and stuff, saying you hate the fall now doesn't quite make as much sense, like why think of Fall then, I guess
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, THAT ARGUMENT BETWEEN MARK AND ROGER WAS SHADY!!!!! LIKE, OMG!!!!!
“perhaps it’s because I’m the one of us to survive” every DAMN time
so confused why did they remove the fucking climax
The director felt that it was an emotional overload since it was placed right after Angel's funeral. So he took this scene out
+Stashia Jackson not only that, but in the movie mark and roger have never sang to eachother (except in the beginning) they felt it didnt fit and it was out of their character and seemed weird to have them directly singing to eachother. this is comming from the directors commentary on the dvd.
Katherine: What? Have you never seen the Broadway version? Roger and Mark sang together several times: "Rent", "Goodbye Love", "You're Not Alone" are all points in which they sing together. You're Not Alone is a particularly poignant one, as they're struggling through their common pains and are coming to realize that splitting was the worst mistake they could've made.
The original lines were:
MARK Mimi still loves Roger
Is Roger really jealous,
Or afraid that Mimi's weak?
ROGER Mimi did look pale
MARK Mimi's gotten thin, Mimi's running out of time.
Roger's running out the door!
To be honest, I'm glad they changed that. I know that Mark mostly talks like he's a director in the original, but it seems weird to me.
When he says perhaps it’s because I’m the one of us to survive is a real gut punch
Why they delete this scene??? Is one of the most important numbers in Rent!!! Thanks for loading it!
Holy shit. Mark's breathing from 3:35-3:40. Amazing acting!!
And Roger and Mimi at the end-so much angst and pain. This scene is beautiful. He was a fool to cut it.
Agreed
So they put in the whole Maureen-Joane engagement plot, and leave out this and Christmas Bells? Wow.
Wait, that was added in? I thought that was also part of the play.
@@oldchannelforayoungstupidf2649 Nope. In the original show, Maureen and Joanne never got engaged. Instead, they were rehearsing to put together another protest performance, and that's when the fight broke out during Take Me or Leave Me.
This makes mark and roger’s hug when he comes back so much more meaningful
absolutely love the beginning piano, combination of so many songs in this musical. Honestly, my number one favorite score of any broadway musical
So heart-wrenching and beautifully acted. Will never understand why this was cut, especially with how crucial it is to the story.
"I always hated that dog." I was crying then he said that and suddenly my friend and I were laughing and her mom thought we were crazy.
This scene is so important to the story. Its 5 minutes theres so many scenes they couldve cut instead of this one. Everytime i show this movie to someone i stop it and play them this where its supposed to be in the movie. So important.
Marks face when Mimi sings the first “Goodbye love” is heartbreaking.
GAH, THS IS LIKE MY FAVORITE SONG EVER. Why on Earth did they cut this???
i keep rewatching and...breaking. X(
From the first time I watched this, til years later. This song always makes me feel and cry no matter how many times I watch it, the longing and love are so real.
The most emotional scene in the whole show and it was cut....
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2:45..........my heart..........💔
I want a blu-ray edition with this edited back in.
Mimi's running out of time... breaks my heart
Leaving this out of the movie was a travesty. This was such an important scene.
Does anyone know if they're doing anything special for the movie this year seeing as it's the 10 year anniversary? Personally I hope they rerelease it in Theaters, uncut with this scene.
This is where I started to pay attention to the fact Mimi was dying
If they needed to cut a song it should of been 'Living in America' - it was a bad filming disruption in the movie. Goodbye Love is a very important song to the story line and the characters development. GRR. Plus any extra screen time with Rosario Dawson is a plus.
It's integral to the film. without it how would the audience know that mark quit his job, figured out what to do for his film, how would they explain how roger ended up back with Mark, how he figured out his song? It would've ruined the movie without the song lol the ending wouldn't make sense
+Brad Tarr "What You Own" is more important than Goodbye Love B.
I played Mimi almost a year ago, and my favourite lines were "You don't want to watch me die" and "And hello, disease" I had to theatrically cry at those points, but I was genuinely crying because of Mimi's situation.
That's incredible. I honestly cannot imagine Mimi not crying when she's saying goodbye to the very man she loves more than anyone and she's slowly embracing the very disease that's killing her. I think it's awesome how you gave Mimi those crying moments during her parts of the song (despite it already being planned).
This scene would have made the movie so much better, it's such a significant scene.
They cut my favorite part of the argument
I KNOW! The "HEY! For someone who's always been let down, who's heading out of town" is one of my fav Mark lines
And, "for someone who longs for a community of his own, look who's with his camera. Alone."
Now it even make sense why mark stands on the roof at what you own because all is breaking down and he want to take his own life. But then Roger cames exactly back when he screems "I quit" at the moment he want to jump but Roger saves his life and NOW I'M Sad and when Roger screems "who mark are you" and mark "I'm the one of us to survive" it's clear... Mark the main person who got no own story.. He's just surviving and rent is about to find out who he is
The line that hits the most for me has to be “Mimi’s running out of time, and you’re running out the door!”😭
Just saw this live about a week ago near Bristol. The girl who played Mimi was awesome, this performance moved me so much !
I love this scene makes me cry every Roger and Mark are real friends mark telling Roger to stay and fight for what he believe and to stop running from his past
This should never have been cut!!
Worst decision ever to cut this. This is one of the ost moving and shockingly real moments in the musical. As Mimi sings goodbye love you can truly feel the utter fear welling up inside her. She's 19 and she's dying. Goodbye love, goodbye any chance of love, goodbye LIFE! Mimi up until this point has survived by not giving one thought to the disease or her addiction. She's just lived in the moment and tried to have fun, but now for the first time she's thinking about what happens next and it terrifies her. And that's only some of why this moment was important to Mimi, without going into the massive effect of Mark and Roger and the importance of these moments between them. ugh this scene just has so much packed into it and was so important.
everyday I am saddened by the fact that this is a deleted scene, this is literally the most important song in the movie
This is high key the best scene in the movie and it was cut
It’s 2020 and I’m still fucking mad they cut this out. MY FAVORITE PART.
i will never understand why they deleted this scene. it's so important.
I hate that this isn't in the movie
At the beginning "You owe me a beer" "I'll give you a cigarette" than Mimi punches the drum sticks or whatever she does
God, why? It's one of the best song, they shouldn't delete this!
2:20 dear god, this is my favourite part, Mark and Roger's fight gets me every time, their friendship is the best
I can't believe my favorite scene is a deleted one :(
Can we appreciate a little Benny who paid for the funeral and drug treatment for Mimi? Which is not the cheapest thing in the world.
Benny is misunderstood. He is not bad guy, just took a different life path.
I will never forgive Chris Columbus for removing this scene. The pain in their faces, in their voices. The meaning of this song, their character developments... Such a strong and beautiful scene. WHYYYYYY, Columbus?
Okay so first time listening to this song and I just had some feelings. 1. Mark's motives as a character becomes much clearer, before it was like "he left his home and went to Manhattan and stayed there because he hates his parents???" but now it becomes more "He left home to pursue his passion in filming, as he got to meet more people he got more wrapped up in making sure they and their stories were remembered, whilst dealing with the pain of knowing that his friends are going to die". I kind of think that the whole "Mark is numb" thing poses the question of if Mark is depressed. I may be reaching but it certainly feels that way and like looking back at earlier scenes that may have been true for quite a while, but hey I might be imagining things. 2. mORE GOOD SIDE BENY YAY!!! 3. This explains more why Rogers decided to to go to Santa Fe, like I kinda felt that it was unmotivated unless he was chasing the dream Collins had proposed in the song Santa Fe. Him leaving so he can't get hurt? Really important to show in my opinion. 4. The fact that this shows Mimi getting worse makes it weird that they cut this out, without this scene it's easy to interpret that she just misses Rogers and Angel and gets worse later on. But this shows her getting worse and gives as stated in the song another reason for Rogers to want to leave. 5. I always thought it was strange that Mark and Rogers who seemed to have gone through a lot together just never adressed Rogers leaving but this clears that up. 6. I can't tell if Mark brings up Mimi because he thinks Rogers would stay because of her, or because Mark thinks that he (for lack of better wording) isn't good enough to stay for, I might be overanalyzing the way he goes "There's me there's Mimi" Makes it seem like he's either coaxing Rogers or right after he sings "There's me." He realizes that it won't be enough and adds "There's Mimi". I don't know though I just this song has a lot of emotions and I wasn't prepared for any of them so this might be my brain working a bit weirdly after having me cry for like 15 minutes.
This is the main scene that shows the real person Benny is. Shame it was cut from the main film.
Thank you for this
Just watching this again and crying in my room at midnight. Completely normal Saturday night tbh.
this was so integral to mark and roger's friendship and really showing how hurt mark is that his best friend is willingly leaving him, not to mention mimi going to rehab.
I love Mark's facial expressions throughout this entire song.
3:54 makes me tear up everytime!
I’m so mad they cut this scene and Halloween out. The two scenes that define Mark as a character!
Thank you for sharing this! I can't believe they cut this out. It really does add to the movie and puts other pieces together. Once again, thank you for posting the video! =)
So this is by far my favorite song from rent, and even though this scene isn’t in the movie, it’s my favorite scene. My favorite part of this song is the end, where mark starts with “Hey! For someone who’s always been let down, who’s heading out of town?”. Not sure why they left that part off. Anyways, I’m glad we are still able to see the deleted scenes!
I so wish this was in the movie.
they should never have deleted this! it's so telling for both plot and character arcs.
ugh! even in 2018 this frustrates me!!
throughout the movie, you see every characters baggage, of sorts... except for mark. i had watched the movie before actually watching the real uncut performance, and i don't see why they would cut this scene other than the fact that the director's an idiot. the song had actually given us peeks of (along with halloween) that mark had some of this "baggage" too, just internally, a conflict within himself instead of with a partner.
when watching the movie, i was wondering why mark seemed like such a perfect character, and not, ya know, having an internal crisis because all of his friends have HIV and are poor and depressed? turns out he was, but the idiot who was entrusted with this musical decided that this was uneeded??? i think that even in the REAl musical they could have touched on mark's baggage more...
this was just a little rant, but i think an easy solution would just be to release an uncut version like The Outsiders did. im sure the rent hype has to be there somewhere and i know at least i would watch it. :)
thx for reading!!
Preach the God Damn Truth!!