Revised Nintendo Switch Cartridges & What It Means for Collecting and Physical Game Preservation

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @BenoitRenard
    @BenoitRenard 2 года назад +165

    Hi, I'm the one who posted that Reddit thread and started making that list. Thanks for the mention; it's always cool when you're noticed positively. :) Anyway, I wanted to make some comments.
    Not long after I started making my list, I was approached by another person who shared the same passion in gathering this data, and we joined forces. He already had a Google Spreadsheet, so at first we sychronised our information. Some time later he suggested making a Facebook group to better coordinate our efforts, and that's when the group "Nintendo Switch Cartridge Revisions" was born.
    The spreadsheet has even more data, like region and download size (when there's a patch available), so it has become the main work, while my list is only a distillation of it, with the sole difference that I keep track of all revisions, not just the last one.
    In the video, you mention differences on the back of the case to identify revisions. Back when starting out, we also attempted to identify them using the case, but we had to realise that, unfortunately, there's no way to tell. The packaging is completely independent from the revision that it contains. Any barcode or serial number changes relate to design or text changes of the insert.
    As you noted, it's mostly Nintendo that makes revisions. Third-party revisions are uncommon, and most that do exist are later prints by different publishers. For example, Blazing Chrome was originally released by Limited Run Games, but years later Pix'n Love released revision 001 that was more up-to-date.
    You also mention releases with included DLC. While my list doesn't yet make this clear (but the spreadsheet does), sometimes there are also different 'builds' of the games. They're different releases of the same game, with their own versioning/revisions. The Japanese-only release of The Legend of Zelda: A Breath of the Wild with the DLC, and the Pokémon Sword/Shield releases that include the Expansion Pass, are examples of this. That's why their revision number is 000.
    Different builds don't only get created for content reasons, though. Sometimes they exist solely because a different publisher released the game. An example of that is Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia, first published by Limited Run Games, and later published by Numskull Games.
    How do you know if it's a different build? By the game ID. This is five-character identifier you can find on both sides of the cartridge. Thankfully, this one can also be seen the back of the box. Next to "Made in Japan", you can see a code. For The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, it's "HAC P AAAAA USA". The "AAAAA" is the game ID. You'll see on the release with the DLC that it's AAAAG.
    Finally, a note about regions. Releases in Europe and North America have the same build and revision on the cartridge most of the time, even if they might not always have the same publisher. But that doesn't mean that every region gets every revision after the initial release. Revisions of popular games like Super Mario Galaxy and Pokémon Sword/Shield seem to be well distributed, but less popular games like Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition aren't always so lucky. Revision 003 of the latter doesn't seem to exist in Europe (only up to 002), while it's not that rare in North America.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +22

      Hello! Thanks so much for reaching out and providing more information on the good work you've been doing! I went ahead and pinned your comment 😄

    • @HagensAlley
      @HagensAlley 2 года назад +3

      One more thing to note about using the codes for identification, if a title changes publishers it can get an iterative letter increase using the same game ROM. There also could be a situation where a letter increase is created but never released and another is created. So going from A to C would be possible with no B existing.

    • @Daniel-it1dp
      @Daniel-it1dp 2 года назад

      Is there a database or list somewhere that indicates what the patches or new versions on carts did? For instance, I just looked up Blazing Chrome 1.0.4 on Pix'n Love cart but couldn't find what that patch provided.

    • @McBeatLP
      @McBeatLP 2 года назад

      Thank you so much for the in depth information! Being from Europe myself, I was very confused when looking at my game cases as I could not find similar numbers or codes as the ones showed on the Esrb versions… The design is totally different somehow.
      What would be the best way to recognize a revised cartridge on a PAL or USK version of a game?

    • @BenoitRenard
      @BenoitRenard 2 года назад +1

      @@Daniel-it1dp No, there isn't. Back when I could monitor Switch patches, I was in the process of making one, but that's on-hold now. It doesn't help that many patch notes just plain don't exist.

  • @2BAMaster9
    @2BAMaster9 2 года назад +75

    I’ve never seen anyone talk about this before. You earned yourself a subscriber

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +7

      Thanks, I'm glad to hear you found this interesting too :)

  • @PoutingTrevor
    @PoutingTrevor 2 года назад +17

    This is something I'd never considered, and as others have said, I don't believe anyone else is talking about this, on RUclips at least. You just went and elevated the conversation around Switch collecting.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I hope this video can help spread awareness about this topic. It's one that I think is quite important.

  • @Tron08
    @Tron08 2 года назад +34

    Was literally just thinking about this due to the issues Scarlet/Violet has been experiencing. If performance patches are ever released I definitely want a cart that includes them. Appreciate this video!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +5

      Nintendo released a statement yesterday acknowledging the performance issues with Scarlet/Violet & their plans for patch updates. So all the problems will hopefully be fixed & incorporated onto revised carts in the upcoming production runs.

    • @royceburger7929
      @royceburger7929 Год назад

      What was the issue of pokemon scarlet/violet? Im having issues with my octopath traveler 2 always crashing

    • @Tron08
      @Tron08 Год назад

      @@royceburger7929 Extremely obvious and bad performance issues and graphical glitches at launch. Pretty much the only issue people had with the game(s)

    • @meeloks.1013
      @meeloks.1013 Год назад +1

      Nothing is going to save the performance of those crappie games.

  • @SHirst247
    @SHirst247 2 месяца назад

    As a collector, best video I've ever come across. Sold and rebuilt all my physical Switch & PS4 games from the ground up, all complete on cart/disc. THANK YOU!

  • @WadeVillines
    @WadeVillines 2 года назад +3

    This was my favorite thing about the 'Nintendo Selects' revisions in the past. Thanks for covering this topic, I actually didn't know that any Switch games were getting revisions.

  • @ChuckRiosGuitar
    @ChuckRiosGuitar 2 года назад +3

    I have over 200 physical switch games and I thought about this on day one. unfortunatly, when you are wheeling and dealing, you can't allways get the latest and greates. so to preserve the games, I have back ups of the micro sd cards with all the dlc and patches on them. i have two in fact and every 6 or 8 months, i revise them and go through all my games one by one, maeking sure i have all the updates. in the future, when they shut the shops down, i will have allready had the patches and dlc downloaded and ready. then it is just a matter of transfering the data to new micro sd's and so on and so forth. lots of work, but worth it. this video is very helpful as I will now be keeping a better eye out for full dlc included carts. Thanks!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Glad to hear this was helpful 😊

    • @wowgek7
      @wowgek7 7 месяцев назад

      that wont work though if your system dies all that date is useless

    • @ChuckRiosGuitar
      @ChuckRiosGuitar 7 месяцев назад

      @@wowgek7 as long as the update was on the sd, I have multiple switches. It works. Just need to keep up on the updates and sad cards. Also you can drag and drop onto a computer and preserve them there. Then load back onto a fresh sd card and into the switch.

    • @wowgek7
      @wowgek7 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChuckRiosGuitar it wont though as soon as you put the sd card with the data in another switch the first thing you seel is an notificcation it neds to be formated. it was the same on the 3ds.
      you cna preserve them yes but as soon as your system dies its gone. many people found that out for example with their pokemon save data (you cnat put that up in the cloud)

    • @maegnificant
      @maegnificant 2 месяца назад

      not true:)​@@wowgek7

  • @tofutyger
    @tofutyger 2 года назад +17

    i have been trying to seek out "complete" editions of games as a priority for collecting. since learning of the cartridge revisions from your previous video, i feel like this is something i will take into account going forward. i sought out some greatest hits versions of PS2 games over their black labels for this very reason.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +2

      Oh I didn't realize that about the PS2 greatest hits games, but makes sense.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 года назад

      I hated the red labels more than wanting the most current version of the game, loll

    • @jetxet1
      @jetxet1 2 года назад +1

      Happened to me, unawarely i bought the Greatest Hits version of Silent Hill 2 when it was starting to become scarce, later found out that having Maria as a playable character was exclusive to this version.

    • @Estorium
      @Estorium 2 года назад +2

      I steer cleer of platinum / greatest hits version of games too, but for some games like Silent Hill 2 and Midnight Club LA, these are the only versions that are complete which sucks for a uniform looking shelf ;)

  • @Valentinacastilloferron
    @Valentinacastilloferron 2 года назад +7

    This is by far the most important info for us collectors. Thank you very much.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure! I'm glad you found the information valuable :)

  • @xbetelgeuse128x4
    @xbetelgeuse128x4 2 года назад +6

    These types of videos are very interesting to me. Hearing about the little nuances in game collecting is great. I hope you continue with other videos along this same vein.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +2

      I really like videos like this as well! Though they're heavily reliant on available source material (if you will). But I'll see if there's another similar topic that would be fun to unravel.

    • @xbetelgeuse128x4
      @xbetelgeuse128x4 2 года назад

      @@orbalology I’m sure that you have seen them, but there are switch spines if you are looking to make your collection unique visually also. I’ve been thinking about doing this with my switch collection.

    • @xbetelgeuse128x4
      @xbetelgeuse128x4 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/VBsjyR3Nhrk/видео.html
      Here’s a link on it.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I've considered printing out spines but I just worry that the alignments will look weird over time (especially if I can't get them to sit in the case perfectly straight 😅)

    • @xbetelgeuse128x4
      @xbetelgeuse128x4 2 года назад

      @@orbalology i think if each end of the binder strip had a little overhang and was bent around the actual cover art then it would hold steady. Just a thought though. I haven’t printed any myself yet.

  • @shabberplasm32
    @shabberplasm32 2 года назад +3

    I don't 100% only collect physical copies, but a big portion of my Switch games are, so this is a lot of cool information that I didn't think about. Shout out to that Reddit post too that you found!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +2

      The reddit OP is doing a lot of the heavy lifting on this topic - their list is an invaluable resource that I hope they keep maintaining!

  • @TumoFiji
    @TumoFiji Год назад

    Incredible coverage on a lesser-known but important detail with Switch games. Thank you so much!

  • @JustTheGems
    @JustTheGems 2 года назад +2

    I feel like I’ve probably said this before, but wow there’s a lot more to this than I ever would have thought. Thanks for doing the research!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure! I enjoy nerding out over things like this 😂

  • @franciscobutte
    @franciscobutte 2 года назад +5

    Another very interesting video Emily.
    I remember when Fangamer first released the physical version of Hollow Knight it came without the DLCs and then they released an edition that included all of them. The only way that you can tell the difference it was by looking one of the screenshots on the back of the case. It showed a different scene from the one that didn't have the DLCs.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Oh interesting! I know Fangamer also released an updated cart for Stardew Valley - I think they designated the change with a sticker though I'm not sure if they changed the back cover art as well.

    • @mlsdreavusjargon6910
      @mlsdreavusjargon6910 Год назад

      That was a little different though, considering it was the plan from the start from what I remember, for all the dlc to be on the cartridge. Something went wrong and it was missing a huge update on first release, with one of the four dlc packs missing and you needed the big update to get it. After people really weren’t happy they then reprinted them and said people who’d bought the original cartridges could send theirs back in to get a replacement that was up to date.
      Sorry not trying to nitpick, just wanted to add context since that was more a failure on the intention to have it be complete from the start, rather than updating over time.

  • @segaboy128
    @segaboy128 2 года назад +1

    Wow absolutely amazing! I had no idea. Thank you for making this video. Time to rethink my collecting for preservation!!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I'm glad you found this topic interesting! Best of luck with your collection :)

  • @enigmaster84
    @enigmaster84 Год назад

    One of the most useful videos I could find =D
    I'm not a collector, I only buy what I want to play but I'm really concerned about preservation.
    On PC I buy only digitally from Gog as it provides only DRM free games (and that allows to make as many working backup copies one likes), while on consoles, since backups are not an option, I buy physical copies. Alas, it's very hard to tell which games are updated and if they include DLCs, so thanks for the hints!

  • @PizzaShrimp
    @PizzaShrimp 2 года назад +2

    great tips. I haven't seen any fake switch carts yet, but its pretty prevalent in gba and gameboy collecting. so i can only imagine this information being helpful in more ways then one in the future!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Yeah I haven't seen fake 3DS or Switch carts yet. Maybe they'll start circulating at some point but for now it thankfully isn't something to worry about just yet.

  • @nightfall22
    @nightfall22 2 года назад +2

    This is why I love this channel. The information is always good. I stumbled upon your channel last week and or so and have watched a few videos and each one that I’ve seen have rocked.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! I'm glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos so far :)

  • @liger45666
    @liger45666 Год назад

    I just found your channel today, and I just wanted to say thank you, binged you videos today and it got me through most of my work day lol. I can't wait to see more

  • @pedroignaciosalinas1395
    @pedroignaciosalinas1395 10 месяцев назад

    Love your video. There's few people that cares for revised cartridges, is nice to feel Im not the only one caring about this.

  • @femtrooper
    @femtrooper 2 года назад +2

    Again with the information helpful videos! Yay! I love it and keep 'em coming! These are super unique too - you are becoming the go-to person for this stuff!!!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Thanks!! It's been fun to talk & nerd out over these types of topics on YT :)

  • @nixzxin
    @nixzxin 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing about the game card revision. I didn't know that before. Great content.

  • @Bkuuzin
    @Bkuuzin 2 года назад +2

    It’s nice when carts include patches and DLC! Reminds me of Animal Crossing New Leaf and how the Welcome Amiibo update was also released as a new game cart along with a digital update.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Yeah! I know a lot of people don't like to collect the Nintendo Selects or the PlayStation Greatest Hits but those are often the only way to get the updates on certain physical games.

  • @tanzolo4487
    @tanzolo4487 Год назад

    Altough I already knew this before watching the video. (Also know about the revision list on the internet) I really enjoyed this. I like the fact people are at least making other people aware of this. As a physical collector who owns all revised version of his games and the importance of preservation, and how digital is being forced on us, I find it baffling how few people are actually aware. I remember going to the store trying to find the revised version of Metroid dread, I asked the shopkeeper to look at the back of the cartridge of the used games they sold. They were flabbergasted. Thry did not know. Funny.. as when these servers for switch go down these revised copies will be worth a lot more. Just weird to think even shopkeepers don’t know about this.

  • @Rrisd1
    @Rrisd1 2 года назад +2

    Really glad I found your channel the other week. Very relaxing and informative content. Keep it up!

  • @bazdaniels7420
    @bazdaniels7420 2 года назад

    yes, valuable infos, thank you! my first time seeing orbalology
    first impression I find you adorable in your nerdy caffeinated-seeming delivery

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Thanks, haha. I actually don't drink caffeine so it's funny to hear you say this 😂

    • @bazdaniels7420
      @bazdaniels7420 2 года назад +1

      @@orbalology Oh, funny thing about impressions x) ...Maybe it's just the caffeine I drank speaking. Anyway I look forward to hearing more

    • @bazdaniels7420
      @bazdaniels7420 2 года назад +1

      btw, congrats for not drinking caffeine, most of us are hooked and it's really damn hard to quit imo

  • @coffeebreak0
    @coffeebreak0 2 года назад +2

    I’m not a collector but this was very interesting to know about!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I'm glad to hear you found it interesting even as a non-collector :)

  • @matthewbloise2155
    @matthewbloise2155 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for providing an excellent resource! I had been looking for something like the revision list for a while.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      My pleasure, I'm glad to see a lot of interest in their project!

  • @philipsidney123
    @philipsidney123 2 года назад +1

    These videos have been very helpful! Didn't know most of this, thanks for putting them together.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      My pleasure! Glad to hear that you found this helpful 😄

  • @leonidasvonsparta
    @leonidasvonsparta 8 месяцев назад +1

    i dont have that problem but its cool to know :) , cool video!

  • @Progressive.G
    @Progressive.G 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video! As a collector this is great to be aware of. Thank you algorithm for putting this in my suggested videos 👍

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +2

      Thanks, I'm glad that more people are becoming aware of this :)

  • @Mike55690
    @Mike55690 2 года назад +1

    Been looking forward to this video Emily as this is a very interesting and even important topic moving forward! With what you said and just seeing games being made post pandemic as opposed to pre (though some games still released broken pre pandemic lol) moving forward it would be nice if publishers / developers moving forward (for re-prints) actually do this, specially for us physical collectors.
    I mainly collect for Playstation, be it the 4/5 physically and it's cool knowing Nintendo does this but i am not sure if Sony does this, regardless, stellar work as always Emily! :)

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      From what I've seen online I haven't seen revised discs release on the modern platforms (except when they repackage a game with the DLC, etc.). I think it may be more expensive to change the format on disc vs. cart during production perhaps? Though I'm not entirely certain.

    • @Mike55690
      @Mike55690 2 года назад +1

      @@orbalology That actually makes sense, specially at a high volume reprint i doubt they will "waste" money, production etc etc just to do it.

  • @nintendro64
    @nintendro64 2 года назад

    Great content, glad to see more folks talk about this!
    As someone with 500+ physical switch games in their collection, this has only made me realize how lazy some companies can be especially when there is a day one patch or they add content like it’s a “bonus” when it should have been included at launch (looking at you Nintendo with your Switch Sports, Strikers, Tennis & Golf titles).
    For preservation sake it would be nice if Nintendo offered an upgrade program so you can have the final cartridge when all is done with updates as Japan did with BOTW (even though glitches are still present)… then again it’s nice having a V1 cart to access those glitches. 😅

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Yeah it's become a weird environment to navigate for physical game collectors. It's interesting seeing the differences across the carts without updates, but the few game breaking bugs never should have been printed to begin with (as seen in a few of the indie titles sadly).

    • @nintendro64
      @nintendro64 2 года назад

      @@orbalology exactly! The Bite The Bullet situation was an odd one, you couldn’t even inflict damage on the 2nd boss, oh boy. Do you happen to have a list of broken physical games as well? I only know of three (Bite The Bullet, Evoland Legendary Edition [specifically Evoland 2] and now Gato Roboto).

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      @@nintendro64 I haven't come across a specific list for that but the spreadsheet that's linked in the video description indicates which titles contain game breaking bugs on the cart in the additional comments column.

  • @danielsimmich1858
    @danielsimmich1858 2 года назад

    One super underrated feature of the switch is that you can download updates/patches by connecting with a switch that has them downloaded. Not only does this help people without access to internet, but it will also make preservation slightly easier as you can get updates after the servers go down by connecting with somebody locally who has the updates you want

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      You're right, not enough people mention this feature! It's something that has a lot of potential especially for retro game stores to help out their local community.

  • @Throwbackrewatch
    @Throwbackrewatch Год назад

    Sometimes I regret what the RUclips algorithm recommends to me. This is not one of those times. This was a great video.

  • @Overexposed1
    @Overexposed1 2 года назад

    I freaking love your channel. You are so easy to listen to. Very informative content!

  • @ColdNightsGaming
    @ColdNightsGaming 2 года назад

    Thanks for the info, Em! You truly shine when you can flex those research muscles. Thanks for another great video!

  • @mattdoesntknowwhattodowith5760
    @mattdoesntknowwhattodowith5760 2 года назад

    Ohhh I’ve never heard of this before, that’s really interesting and I’ll be sure to keep it in mind in the future

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      It is interesting, and now somewhat helps 'validate' my decision to wait for certain titles to go on sale a year or so after launch before I pick them up 😅

  • @KNPS-MAGIO
    @KNPS-MAGIO 2 года назад +2

    For BOTW they changed the cover colors slightly, I know because I bought another copy much later and after seeing them side to side then liked it better.

  • @YoungThos
    @YoungThos 2 года назад +8

    I came to the Switch late, so I ended up getting that Japanese reissue of Breath of the Wild with the Expansion Pass on the cart as my one and only copy of the game - one of the highlights of my collection to be sure. And just wonderful that it also has the English version of the game on the cart.
    However on the exact same day Nintendo also reissued Splatoon 2 with the Octo Expansion on the cart, but that release does not include English. So you have to remain vigilant 🧐

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Yeah I always have to double check PlayAsia's listing to make sure something has English on the cart or not before buying 😅

    • @Pacmanfan-po9rn
      @Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 года назад

      How does it not have engkish??

  • @mstevensh
    @mstevensh 2 года назад

    Just....wow!!
    you just blow my mind

  • @joelfahlberg2679
    @joelfahlberg2679 2 года назад +1

    a tip for anyone trying to future proof their collections is to go for DLC package editions of any game you get, this goes for PS4 games as well. Those will always be latest patch which usually has all major kinks ironed out. This also goes for the "game of the year" editions for PS4. Go for those instead of the day one ones. But hey it's pretty cool to have a first revision too and they rarely have any really serious issues (they were good enough to launch after all).
    Enjoy your games! :)

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      In a way I wish Nintendo did more repackages with the DLC and/or hits/favorites like you see with PlayStation and Xbox. They did some for previous consoles but we haven't seen it for the Switch. I guess they've decided to replace this practice with revised carts (but rarely with the DLC included).

  • @JonnyBgooD007
    @JonnyBgooD007 2 года назад

    Glad someone is speaking on this. Subbed!

  • @nixy1756
    @nixy1756 10 месяцев назад

    youre so awesome! just the video i was looking for. Thank you!

  • @32_bit_gamer
    @32_bit_gamer 2 года назад

    I started paying attention to this a few months ago. I love thr facebook group.

  • @SessleIsosceles
    @SessleIsosceles 2 года назад

    What a great topic and video !!! And yes I feel the worry about my games needing DLC, but when that support is gone will my carts be unplayable messes , revised carts are a MUST , LONG LIVE PHYSICAL MEDIA

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I really hope physical media is here to stay in the next console generations.

    • @SessleIsosceles
      @SessleIsosceles 2 года назад +1

      @@orbalology please keep making any videos about this as it evolves, love to see them as the gaming industry forgets us more and more (physical lovers )

  • @RyBuys
    @RyBuys 2 года назад +1

    I collect for PS1, PS2, PS4, PS5, N64, NES, SNES, Gamecube and the Switch. I really went full swing with the Switch and started collecting for it day one when the Switch launched in 2017. I have bought most of my games day one so I have the first edition of most games and the last time I counted, I have over 1,400 physical games for Switch..and that was this past February lol.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Oh wow, that's an impressive number!

    • @RyBuys
      @RyBuys 2 года назад +1

      @@orbalology Thank you. Yeah I kinda just went fully in from the start so it was a bit easier to manage that way and didn't have to backtrack on releases or pay double, triple the price later on.

  • @RetroNirvanaGaming
    @RetroNirvanaGaming 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Good info for a physical game collector

  • @penguinjay
    @penguinjay Год назад

    @3:18 so lucky.
    I definitely have experience with the Nintendo revision mismatches as well. I have all sorts in my collection, boxes that are first print with revised carts inside, cartridges marked as revision but have the first print of the game inside the cart, and vice versa. All sorts of mismatches. It even happens in games I personally purchased when I was a little kid, definitely from Nintendo that way. It's usually a match, more than 99% of the time but I figure Nintendo carried stuff from the end of one print right into the start of another. Sounds like they are still practicing this to this very day haha.

  • @paramedic2172
    @paramedic2172 Год назад

    A curious example is the "Eternal collection" edition of Diablo 3. The Switch version is the only one which has all the relevant content on its physical edition, in the case of PS4 the discs are just "Reaper of souls" edition discs with different art and an automatic update download including the last character added, which is not included on the disc.
    On the other hand, the "Collector's edition" of Darkest dungeon is the opposite. The Switch physical edition comes with the "Ancestral edition" cartridge with an automatic download, and is the PS4 version which really has all the content on the disc.
    There are even cases in which the same edition on the same platform can differ. The "Game of the year" edition of Dead cells for Switch has, actually, two versions. In one of them the "Rise of the giant" dlc is included via downloadable update and in the other it is just included on the cartridge.

  • @MegaNancyLover
    @MegaNancyLover 2 года назад +1

    Darn, this is a bit frustrating given that this is just another factor to take into consideration when buying physical copies. It takes a lot of time to research what editions are the definitive releases. Oh well, I'm glad that i was made aware of this by you BEFORE starting my Switch collection!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Yup it's something I think is very worth discussing especially among those who collect. Hopefully this information will be more widely known soon. It's a bit too hush hush atm.

  • @Pflanze29
    @Pflanze29 2 года назад +1

    Very sweet channel

  • @SylvainThuret
    @SylvainThuret Год назад

    Nice! I was wondering about it since I bought Zelda BOTW like 4 months ago. And the version is 1.6! I was very surprised.

  • @daniela.n6277
    @daniela.n6277 2 года назад

    Informative as always, thank you!

  • @32_bit_gamer
    @32_bit_gamer 2 года назад

    FINALLY! someone on youtube finally mentions the Gato Roboto Sh*tshow. Thank you.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      It's good that they're apparently willing to replace the carts with the full game but we'll see how that goes down :/

  • @adambishop5739
    @adambishop5739 Месяц назад

    Very informative thank you!

  • @WebbyMcWebberson
    @WebbyMcWebberson 2 года назад

    Great video as always!

  • @MandyleePlays
    @MandyleePlays 2 года назад +1

    You are doing the good work for physical collectors
    I’m wondering if games from other consoles read the same

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      From my understanding the disc consoles don't change the game data during production but they do apply the changes when they go to reissue games in the PlayStation Hits or DLC repackage releases. I think it's because of cost (disc data changes are more difficult than cart data changes in the middle of production maybe?) but I'm not sure.

  • @ultimateness1921
    @ultimateness1921 2 года назад

    I found this video really informative thank u

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      My pleasure! Glad to know you found this helpful :)

  • @TrinhNguyen-85
    @TrinhNguyen-85 2 года назад +6

    Nowadays I have to do research before I buy a physical copy since I’ve been burned before. For example, Doom Slayers Collection only comes with Doom 2016 on cart and the other games are digital codes. The $200 God of War Ragnarok Collector’s Edition only comes with a digital code for the game. This hurts the resale value and preservation of the game which is disappointing. You also brought up a good point on Pokémon Scarlet/Violet. I bought the double pack for collection but I wonder if I’m better off waiting for a patched cart that may help with performance/bugs. But you also wonder if first print games has more value or not. I don’t know. Game collecting gets so complicated sometimes

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +2

      It's hard to say what will happen in the future but for me personally I would rather have a completely patched game that works vs. getting the original print version.

    • @JaneTheDoe-id2vx
      @JaneTheDoe-id2vx 5 месяцев назад

      the only good thing about first print cartridges i can think of is that i can use glitches to cheat/duplicate items like in tears of the kingdom. i never updated my game so i can use glitches. i don’t know if totk has revised cartridges though

  • @moroseloki1912
    @moroseloki1912 2 года назад

    Good To Know my friend collects Physical and I well play them so I guess I have a knew thing to talk to him about.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Oh I hope you're friend finds the topic interesting as well!

  • @nathanthompson8728
    @nathanthompson8728 2 года назад

    Very informative. Thanks 👍

  • @GameBoyGuru
    @GameBoyGuru 2 года назад +2

    Good to know about Breath of the Wild - I still have my launch copy, but I might have to seek out a later revision that is patched. I really wish we'd get a full edition release that has the DLC content included on the cart, like that one Japanese release. Sadly, I suspect that will be a thing that will happen whenever the "Switch 2" happens, much like how we got Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, the Captain Toad re-release, or the updates for NSMBU, Super Mario 3D World, and other games coming from Wii U to Switch with enhancements and other content. I'll still buy it, but I'd sure like to have it sooner.

    • @GameBoyGuru
      @GameBoyGuru 2 года назад

      @@JB-mm5ff you're probably right about that. But it would be nice to have a patched copy as well.

    • @albertwayne2323
      @albertwayne2323 2 года назад +1

      I bought the Japanese complete version of BotW when it launched in Japan; I refused to wait xD I can confirm that it works in my European Switch and it has all patches and DLC already installed. It came in my language (Spanish) and in English, also in French, so I guess it has all languages. It also uses my save files so after a year having it I recommend you to buy one if you can. Don't wait for Nintendo because that Western launch may not happen.

    • @albertwayne2323
      @albertwayne2323 2 года назад

      @fq4580 Yes my friend. It has German too. I checked it.

  • @nathansmith615
    @nathansmith615 2 года назад

    Super helpful. Thank you!

  • @theedrprice6532
    @theedrprice6532 2 года назад

    I appreciate the info keep up the good work

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      My pleasure, and will do :)

  • @baldchinchilla
    @baldchinchilla 2 года назад +1

    On a personal level, I'm not doing much in the way of game preservation other than using my Analogue Pocket to make save states. I do support the video game history foundation though. I feel like they have the right tools to really make sure this stuff lasts.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      For sure, I think that foundation is great too. But I guess I was thinking of more on a personal basis when it comes to collecting, and wanting to have a complete physical game in a collection vs. relying on other means to play.

  • @CastleManiaGames
    @CastleManiaGames 2 года назад +1

    Great video - Thanks for sharing :)

    • @PixelPhoenix
      @PixelPhoenix 2 года назад

      I found this video through you - thanks Ryan !!

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching :)

  • @giygas_9577
    @giygas_9577 Год назад

    I just ordered a revision 4 copy of Metroid Dread. It's supposed to have Dread Mode difficulty and Boss Rush mode on the cartridge.

  • @assassyn3336
    @assassyn3336 2 года назад

    I really like these videos always was courious about this stuff

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I'm glad to hear you find these things interesting too :)

  • @johnmecca9008
    @johnmecca9008 2 года назад

    I love ur content. This is great information. Also ur eyes are gorgeous.☺️

  • @bplionel2
    @bplionel2 2 года назад

    Thanks for this!

  • @corupptedkev6032
    @corupptedkev6032 2 года назад

    Damn i had no idea about this ☠️ this is why you’re the 🐐 thx for the information

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Haha thanks 😂, and my pleasure!

  • @dajcomputer6514
    @dajcomputer6514 2 года назад +1

    I have some hope that unlike the Wii and DS is that Nintendo will keep the eShop as their main online store for the long-term (like Steam). I still seek physicals for lower storage, preservation, box art, etc!

    • @TurboPikachu
      @TurboPikachu 2 года назад

      Hopefully this also means the Switch’s successor will be on the same ARM architecture as the Switch and maintain backwards compatibility with legacy Switch software. If the new system (be it a direct Switch successor or otherwise) is largely incompatible with Switch software, we could see a repeat of the 3DS/WiiU eShop situation all over again as early as 2028.

    • @dajcomputer6514
      @dajcomputer6514 2 года назад

      @@TurboPikachu Agreed. I guess my hope with the Switch compared to the Wii and DS is that the system (and the position in which the next one will be in) is set in a different market where competitors like PS and XBox (and Steam/PC) are creating a consumer expectation of backwards compatibility or at least stable digital purchases that stay with the user. I'd say it's more desired and expected than ever and hopefully Nintendo realizes that.

  • @ArmandsKreslins
    @ArmandsKreslins 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome video! 😃👍

  • @luisarriaga774
    @luisarriaga774 2 года назад +1

    I pre-order Tetris Effect for NS from Limited Run on July (the digital version was already out), it arrived at the end of November and it still required an update 😵‍💫

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +5

      oof I really dislike the 'forever physical' marketing that some of these companies lean on but don't follow through with.

  • @mulatdood
    @mulatdood 2 года назад +2

    I had been thinking about this since I watched a video about Immortals Fenyx Rising from Switchup that talked about it being a lot better after patches and wanting those patches on cart. I might end up trying to upgrade to more patched cart versions of games I own. I worry a lot about the fate of my games after support for them ends. Most recently I've been thinking about what will happen with portable play when support for joycons ends and drift continues.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Oof yeah I haven't thought about future drift issues yet. I know some people have found some DIY hacks but I guess it may come down to buying some backup joycons in case something goes wrong :(

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 2 года назад

    Cool info, cool video! *goes off to check all the switch game carts* Wow, all the carts I have ends with zeroes.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Haha I guess you picked up a lot of your games close to launch (at least for the Nintendo titles)?

    • @bobbymoss6160
      @bobbymoss6160 2 года назад

      @@orbalology Correct! Or games that are not popular and I picked them up at a bargain.

  • @Dregantz1
    @Dregantz1 2 года назад +1

    Great research 👍🏽👍🏽
    Appreciate the resource you found and shared and your insights. Makes me rethink my Switch collecting or how I want to collect moving forward. I’m now in crisis jk 😅 haha
    Keep the vids coming.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      The creator of the revised list made a comment with a little more info that I pinned on here if you would like to learn more :)

    • @Dregantz1
      @Dregantz1 2 года назад

      @@orbalology definitely. I looked through the list and there are a few games I might hunt down for the latest cartridge version.

  • @nz7166
    @nz7166 2 года назад

    Great video, gave me some good info👍 thanks.

  • @koznan7923
    @koznan7923 Год назад +1

    After seeing the video about video game preservations, especially the physical media, do I regret buying games in day one where the number is “000”? For example I have Pokémon Scarlet that has “000” which is outdated base patch, now that they’re version is 1.2.0.
    I mainly play Pokémon especially for online competitive battles, and events too etc. I’m starting to think I should wait instead of buying it on day one?

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  Год назад

      If you want to play day 1 then buying the game right away makes sense. You can always sell & rebuy the game if you want to trade up for the most recent revised cart :)

  • @Nintenboy01
    @Nintenboy01 2 года назад

    a few months ago I got Mario Party Superstars and it already had the latest patch (which came out in March of this year I think)

  • @10k-Noodles
    @10k-Noodles 2 года назад +1

    Is anyone aware of a way of getting just the box art for a game? In this instance, Ys VIII. I wasn't sure if I'd like it and it was thrown in when I bought FE:3H. I ended up loving it so now every time I look over at my shelf it's a little soul crushing. It's box art's so colorful and nice looking too. Nothing like this blank black atrocity that sits before me! :(

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      I've seen people print out scans of the covers (either at home or at a more professional print shop). I'm not sure if there's a database for these or if people just rely on random online searches. There are also people who sell reproduction cases with the box art online you can consider.

    • @Mac_Omegaly
      @Mac_Omegaly 2 года назад

      There is a data base. I don't recall where.
      As for the best place to print on high quality paper for the most authentic look would likely require a Reddit search.

  • @Rizky-Gumilar
    @Rizky-Gumilar 2 года назад

    Your attention to detail is amazing. also have you reacted to the newest Mario movie trailer?

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I saw it when it dropped - the movie looks like it'll be a lot of fun for all ages. And will probably be a global hit like Nintendo hoped!

    • @Rizky-Gumilar
      @Rizky-Gumilar 2 года назад

      @@orbalology please do reaction vid you're awesome

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I'll consider doing a reaction vid for maybe the next Nintendo Direct or something leading up to a new entry in one of my favorite series. I'll just warn you that I would probably not be that interesting while reacting, I'm generally not an overly reactive person 😅

    • @Rizky-Gumilar
      @Rizky-Gumilar 2 года назад

      @@orbalology that would be awesome. I love watching Nintendo fans reacting to Nintendo direct they're so hype!

  • @Blade-Thing
    @Blade-Thing 2 года назад

    Hi Orbalology/Emily, apologies this is off topic but its a question that i need clarifying.. if i applied cologne on my hands and it dries off..do we still need to wash our hands before touching a switch cartridge? im asking because cologne is still oil based.

  • @karlwilhelmge
    @karlwilhelmge Год назад

    Hi everyone, I bumped into this topic by my own game library. As it was mentioned in the video, although not perfect, there can be indicators on the games version on the box. But I think this is still better than going into this completely blind. Since I am from Germany I cannot apply this to the game boxes over here because they look different where the barcodes are. Does anybody know where I could look for revision numbers on German/European game boxes?

  • @Pikagreg
    @Pikagreg 2 года назад +1

    Rivisions are definitely a weird thing to me since games are mostly fine at least. I usually appreciate them but don't actively seek them out. I am definitely a lot more interested in copies that have the DLC on cart though. Things like Streets of Rage 4 and that Pokemon Sw/Sh w/ Expansions on cart are super cool.
    Download codes definitely shy me away from games even if I do enjoy what is on the cart like the Resident Evil/DMC collections.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      Yup I try to avoid the download code games as well, or the ones with the large download warning on the box :(

  • @soluschristus5946
    @soluschristus5946 Год назад

    Hi Orbalology or anyone who can answer,
    Just have a question regarding patches. Is it really necessary to wait for revised game cards? Don't patches/updates gets saved on your console anyway so even if Nintendo closes the website where you get patches from, you won't need to download them coz they're already saved on your console, provided you don't delete them?? Thanks

  • @NightmareLink110
    @NightmareLink110 10 месяцев назад

    I know this is an older video but these Revisions have been around since the NES. The first two Zelda games had Rev-A versions of the cart. The non-Rev A versions are still very playable without the patches. SNES and N64 followed suit with patch updates, making the Player's Choice versions the ones with the least amount of bugs but usually, the OG carts work just as well.
    Ocarina of Time for the N64 is a great example but the Gold Cartridge 1.0 version is still the most sought out one, even if its the buggiest version of the game. The Red Blood and the chanting in the Fire Temple makes it the better version in my book.
    Nintendo games with patches aren't necessarily mandatory to get, unless there's an extreme amount of bugs, which are rare outside Scarlet/Violet (not a Pokemon fan but shame on you, GameFreak) or has game breaking bugs to it that you need (Link's Awakening with Marin or Metroid Dread's final boss) or has an update that came out on cart. Although, those bugs can be avoided pretty easily. I'm currently looking for the 001 cart for Link's Awakening myself just to have.
    I usually don't have much issues with pre-patched versions of Nintendo games like Skyward Sword on Wii. There's a game breaking bug that soft locks your game but I haven't encountered it in my 5 run playthroughs (never got the update at the time because I didn't have the internet). Also, Speedrunners will most likely look for those 000 versions in the future, as they need the bugs to do their glitch runs. They are good to keep a hold of as well. Tears of the Kingdom fans would also prefer the 000 version because of the item glitch that got patched with an update, which to me will remain the best version. Also, every Special Editions of games are 000 versions of the cartridges. They will be sought after because its a Special Edition.
    Nintendo really needs to do a Nintendo Player's Choice/Selects versions for Switch games already. They will have the most updated version. I wouldn't mind double-dipping for Link's Awakening and Metroid Dread for the latest patch cart. Breath of the Wild too if it came with the DLCs on cart.
    However, in the meantime, I will be picking up that Japanese Breath of the Wild complete version since Doug Bowser sucks (Miss you Reggie) and refused to bring it to the states, and keep it sealed until I need to actually open the case, since I already have the DLC for the Switch version downloaded. Thank gosh the Switch is not Region-locked and it has English Subs and VA.

  • @IcyVeinsLordship
    @IcyVeinsLordship Год назад

    Any information on this occurring for disc based releases? In a different video you covered Spyro (PS4). Are there others?

  • @zyrpentq1395
    @zyrpentq1395 Год назад

    If i have a v1.0.0 game cartridge but i dont update the game, if i swap it to a newer revision cart (for example v1.1.0), will it automatically update the game save and version on the switch? or will it prevent me to open that save since its from a previous version?

  • @vito5328
    @vito5328 2 года назад

    Do you know what version XBC2 had on the 06 cart? I have a 04 one and it had the 2.00 version.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      I believe the patch details for the latest revised carts are listed in the spreadsheet I liked in the description.

  • @preamstrikbiz0
    @preamstrikbiz0 2 года назад

    So would this include binding of Isaac , I have both the version of the cart with the brown/ red background and the blue / white background

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      I'm not too familiar with that title but I would check out the spreadsheet that's linked in the description to see if it's mentioned.

  • @Ngamergal
    @Ngamergal 2 года назад

    thank you that was very informative

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      My pleasure! Glad you found it informative :)

  • @goodall1bay
    @goodall1bay 2 года назад +27

    I put in 'mortal kombat 11' it was a broken unplayable mess. They didn't even fill the capacity of the cartridge. When nintendo chooses to cancel support for the switch, this game and thousands of others will become worthless plastic shelve ornaments.

    • @MegaNancyLover
      @MegaNancyLover 2 года назад +6

      This is the sad state of affairs in gaming. However, this isnt exclusive to Nintendo unfortunately.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +8

      Yup it's the unfortunate direction the entire industry is heading towards it seems :(

    • @ceetee1282
      @ceetee1282 2 года назад +10

      Not necessarily. The Switch has little know function called 'match local system user' that let's you update your game using another person's update data. Now this is not perfect, as you need to find someone else who has the game and the update you want, but it is more then any other console has.

    • @redcrimson1028
      @redcrimson1028 2 года назад +4

      That's why I don't buy the games that isn't fully on the cartridge

    • @aryinc
      @aryinc 2 года назад +2

      @@redcrimson1028 Same here. I pay for it,i want to own it.

  • @skycloud4802
    @skycloud4802 2 года назад

    Can we order revised or reprinted game carts from Nintendo themselves? I think we need a revolution in game preservation (bit like Amazon's "print on demand" technology service for books, only for games instead)

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      If only! I think whenever you order from a store there's a chance of getting old stock so it's hard to predict whether you'll get a revised copy or not. Usually places like Amazon that have high volume turnover is a good bet in my experience. Or places advertising new stock of reprinted games like on VideoGamesPlus.

  • @GunMetalJackal
    @GunMetalJackal 2 года назад

    Great video and thanks for the info Emily 🙂 Now excuse me while I go individually check all 400 of my switch carts 😅

  • @Max-zv8hm
    @Max-zv8hm 2 года назад

    Love this video. That little extra info

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад

      Thanks! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed :)

  • @sqraresoft
    @sqraresoft 2 года назад

    thank you for the video

  • @RippRoast83
    @RippRoast83 2 года назад +1

    Really wish Spyro trilogy got the treatment like the ps4 did. If you got the 2020-2021 disc its all on the disc no download required.

    • @orbalology
      @orbalology  2 года назад +1

      It's a real shame they couldn't fit all those games onto the cart :(

  • @gerardocuevas2742
    @gerardocuevas2742 2 года назад

    Great video