Dr. Garry Nolan | Studying UAPs, Do Extraterrestrials Influence Us? & Remote Viewing
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- We sit down with Dr. Garry Nolan, an esteemed immunologist, inventor, and business executive. Dr. Nolan holds the Rachford and Carlotta A. Harris Endowed Chair in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine. Our conversation delves into his rigorous data-focused approach that enriches discussions with both scientists and the public. Dr. Nolan shares insights from his youth that fuel his scientific inquiries and discusses his strategic use of real science to veil his long-term goals. He reflects on his research in the Harvard lab on the basal ganglia, inspired by prior collaborations with Kit Green and studies on high-functioning remote viewers and intuition. Dr. Nolan also offers his perspective on non-human intelligence and the importance of maintaining a questioning mindset in science, highlighting the type of people he admires and the reason behind his lifelong curiosity.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:25 The Sol Foundation: Confirming UAPs Exist
00:06:04 The Challenges of Non-Mainstream Scientific Study
00:18:26 Studying UAPs & UFOs
00:27:23 Mysterious Objects Being Left on Earth
00:35:03 Unexplained Entities In Garry's House
00:44:42 Are Aliens Influencing Us?
00:49:11 Garry's Goals and Exposing the Unexplained
00:51:26 What Happens After Death?
00:56:43 What is Greatness?
People Mentioned:
- Diana Pasulka
- Iya Whiteley
- Dean Radin
- Rudy Schild
- Avi Loeb
Bio: med.stanford.edu/profiles/gar...
SOL Foundation: thesolfoundation.org/
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I had to stop and laugh when the dog jumped up on the desk.😂
Rewound a few times. The seriousness of the conversation and him being oblivious is just classic humor to me!😂😂😂😂
Garry's dogs are great 😆Here are the most important timestamps from the interview, The Dog Timestamps 😆:
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Top moment!
Yes! Juxtaposition
Dr. Garry Nolan is a precious human being. Gratitude.
Absolutely. He's such an amazing guy.
this guy is a national treasure. we need more scientists who aren't afraid to ask questions, like "what is that thing in the sky?"
Dr Nolan is an emergent HERO, rising from the cluck of chickens that obscure the scientific method that should be applied to over a half a century of repeated valid anecdotal experience as well as material and photographic evidence.
Agreed
I could listen to Dr. Nolan talk all day. So glad we have someone of his caliber on “team disclosure” or “team truth” I guess would be more accurate.
Doctor Gary Nolan is percise and very clear when he is articulating the data in a truly easy way to understand. He is a highly intelligent brilliant communicating genius
...now brush your teeth.
@@chetisanhart3457 What if this particular standard-issue UFO clown *finally* breaks the entire phenomenon wide open? Think of the advertising revenue!!
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@@kahanasam 🤡
We breathe oxygen. We all have opposable thumbs and we all blink. We also drink water. I am also currently typing right now...
Garry's interviews aren't just specific to UAP. They are a masterclass on critical thinking, and looking at the forest, the trees, the seeds, everything.
YES! 💯
Listening to Dr. Nolan always makes me feel good because he is one of the few scientists who admit that they don't know everything rather he makes people think and question themselves. A big thanks to both of you, the interview was most enjoyable. Keep going...
Must say i love Dr. Garry Nolan's approach to this topic, i think its whats been sorely missing.
One of the most important humans around. Thankful to be around for his work.
Protect this man at all costs.
The fact that this is all 'happening' over the past years since the new york times article while at the same time there is a spiritual awakening globally is a unique synchronicity worth talking about!
it's not what you think it is
@lunarlight3131 just one example to take a trip to wonderland... check out an interview or two with Robert Edward Grant, a polymath.... such as his interview with Darryl Anka.
Just don't say that this person with a mil intel background didn't warn you!
Where exactly is this spiritual awakening occurring? I only see war, hate and ignorance.
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Every change to the status quo faces a backlash prompted by those who have a vested interest in the status quo being maintained.
People like the movie quote, “Follow the money.” On its face, it’s a good idea when one is chasing down the trail of an organized criminal group, right? But more than money, is the power that money affords to those who wield it in vast quantities. These are the folks who are using money to buy politicians and police commissioners and judges, and they do it to protect and push their financial interests, but also their ideologies. And ideological groups flock to that source of power like bugs to light. They have agendas and are the foot soldiers spreading propaganda, putting pre-written legislation into the right hands, finding reasons to take a court case up the hill to the highest court.
And there is a backlash to people choosing to leave organized religion for a spiritual belief system that feels right. It feels right because it is inclusive rather than an excuse to kill off the other religious groups; because it fits into scientific understanding instead of denying science; and because it allows us to consider that things we don’t yet understand are just things we don’t have the science to explain, instead of being reacted to with superstitious magical thinking. That kind of thinking leaves us powerless and susceptible to manipulation via fear.
It IS interesting that it is happening at a global level, but is it an outside influence, or is it that we now can communicate easily across the globe? Is it because the long existing power status quo has been unbalanced enough to allow people to decide to not join the religious body that dominates their culture?
There are backlash movements from religious bodies, from industries, from males, from whites, from nationalists, from governments…any group that feels their position in the long established hierarchy is under threat.
If this pisses any reader off, examine your inner fears, and look carefully at what information you take in. If you watch news that generates fear consistently, turn it off. I suggest you watch videos that you can play back, rather than live broadcasts. Look at the news ticker, look at the colors of print on the screen, listen to word choices and tone of voice, watch facial expressions, look for sources of the information they say…analyze it without letting fear shut down your higher reasoning. And, yes…this goes for both sides of the political divide. The right does it a lot more, but the left is not innocent. And keep in mind that partial truth allows the lies to ride into your brain. Keep in mind self identified right wing people share a quality that is not part of left wing thinking: once you take in information from a trusted source, you hold onto it like it’s gospel. Even if the trusted source later disclaims the information, you’ll sooner reject the trusted source from trusted status, than accept that the disclaimer is valid. This makes you a very valuable tool to people who need something from you.
I’m sorry. I know that’s hard to hear, and I know your first reaction is to get mad and attack me, and deny it. Wait until your mad settles, then look at yourself honestly. Have denied video of your favorite politicians saying things that they actually said in the video? Did you wave it off as the person being coerced, or now he is a RINO? Be honest with yourself.
The first step to taking back your personal power is to stop indulging in fear inducing broadcasting. You don’t have to stop watching , but just apply the analysis method I detailed above. Don’t let them use fear to feed you lies or manipulate you.
I have such respect for Dr Nolan. A scientist who is not afraid to look outside of the box. The world is a better and richer place with you in it. Live long and prosper, Dr Nolan 🖖
Too bad he's unique. Not enough people are in this to learn the truth.
Write that book, Garry! Seven dimensions with the soul on top! I'd buy that book! I watch anything that has Garry Nolan in it. I always leave more enlightened about a wide range of topics.
Excellent interview. It's amazing to have people of this level of sophistication pushing the UAP issue forward, many of us are immensely grateful
Prof Garry Nolan is the best ! Overachiever many times over.
Thank you.
Gary for president!!!
Dr Nolan is always interesting to listen to...a genuine inquisitive mind and nice human being to top it off
Dr Nolan is our secret weapon! Great interview.
Best Nolan I’ve ever seen. Grateful this exists.
As Nolans go, certainly Top 10, maybe even Top 5. Certainly some prime, grade-A Nolan
So thankful Dr Garry Nolan.
Excellent conversation. Always a pleasure to listen to Dr. Garry Nolan. Thank you both for doing this!
Respect to Dr Nolan for being advocate for this subject in the scientific community ❤
"Schadenfreude" = I told you so. Dr. Gary Nolan is absolutly brilliant.
told 'ya!
Always great to hear from Dr. Nolan.
A load of PT Barnum nonsense. Grow the hell up humanity.
I came across this brilliant interview with Dr. Gary Nolan. The interview was clear and articulate, covering a wide range of topics from anomalies, UAPs, remote viewing, immunology, and biological cells communicating with one another, to what may happen after death. One important point that was discussed was the criticism of anomalous science and scientists by scientific debunkers. Such criticism is not based on any competing data as to why anomalous phenomena can't be true, but rather on the invocation of materialist doctrine. When this happens, it is "ideology masquerading as science"! Materialist "Doctrine" can preclude observation!
This very interview changed an important aspect of my worldview-and it has influenced me to read several books by Jacques Vallee. Dr. Nolan has contributed so much to immunology and understandings of anomalous phenomena. Thank you so much for this!
Nolan’s on the right side of history I’d say
Love Dr. Garry Nolan 💗 He’s brilliant and also has a good sense of humor and I just love his commitment to his work and his openness surrounding the work he does 💗 Thank you so much for sharing this conversation 🙏💗
Dr. Gary Nolan, is brilliant. What an Excellent Podcast Episode.
Thank you both for an excellent discussion.
My favorite story from the standpoint of science and the herd mentality is about the 1966 winner of the Nobel Prize for physiology and medicine - Peyton Rous. He published results in 1911 concerning cancer and the possible connection with viral pathogens. He was cautioned by others in the medical field that he would destroy his career with such nonsense! He was convinced to turn his interest elsewhere - and yet won the Nobel for that 1911 research.
Another Nobel Prize awarded in physics in 1956 for the invention of the transistor is one that I would care to hear Dr Nolan speak on. The concept of the transistor was postulated and patented in 1926. But there was no concept of how such a device would be constructed - so it was lost to decades of obscurity. Then in November of 1947 (five months after Roswell) three scientists at Bell Labs began experimenting with materials and a month later announced the invention of the transistor - found in virtually every piece of modern electronics.
Gary and I'll ex's interview was the greatest ive ever seen. Thank you for getting him to bring it down a notch and be more vulnerable. 👍👍
What an absolutely wonderful conversation. Thank you both so very much.
Omg. I have the exact same issue. I can NOT EVER sleep near windows. They freak me out. I remember when I was about 6, having nightmares of something looking in the window at me. Would sleep on the couch with my older sister. We were both too spooked to sleep alone when we got separate rooms. We'd keep Roseanne on the TV lol. I've always suspected I could be an experiencer and it's so interesting to hear similar coming from Nolan.
You've gotta let that phobia go. I used to sleep on the edge of a pier on weekends at Cypremore point in the Gulf. The waves lapping against the pylons. The starts from horizon to horizon. You'll be ok.
@@bon6461 Gee I feel so much better now. I almost cried. From horizon to horizon. Wow. Just wow.
@meowmeow4803 funny you say that about windows, I used to be visited by small grey type beings and watch one take the glass out of the window when it left once, I also have a thing about sleeping by windows now.
Dr Nolan 👍👍
I would like the SOL Foundation to study the Nazca bodies... We have bodies!!! ;-) What more could one ask for as evidence of Non Human intervention on Earth??? Yeah, I know that Garry studied the first one but he has said he was influenced regarding his findings... New protocols have been put into place and several new bodies have also been submitted that are in question!!! Many Professionals have also made determinations that suggested further studies are needed!!!
Thanks guys. I don't know the question my soul was seeking an answer for. but in this conversation somewere within an instant I feel better have a sense of satisfaction. Have a great day!
The key is to keep an open mind.
What was once seen as impossible has become plausible.
Good interview👍
Indeed. I'm sure our physics isn't a different civilization's 100 light years away or even a symbiotic civilization underwater.
Great interview, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the back and forth between Gary Nolan and yourself… thank you 👍
When it happens...going home?
@@erichschinzel6486what? Lol
I am so happy and thankful to have him on board, so to speak, with Team UFO. The phenomenon is undoubtedly real and I applaud these scientists who are not afraid of possible damage to their reputations and dive into the topic. There is plenty of data, you just have to know where to look. It's the story of the century. No, millennium! And it's hardly being reported on and that continues to baffle me. I've been on this boat for about 4 decades and have read a lot of books on the topic. And there are some real gems to be read.
Unfortunately there are also many people just trying to sensationalize it. And people who believe about every conspiracy theory out there. But we'll get there, the truth will come out, eventually. And we have to thank people like Prof.Dr. Garry Nolan and many, many others for that. Some great names on whose shoulders the UFO community stands have passed away without ever knowing the actual truth. But stuck with it until their last day on Earth. People like Stanton T. Friedman and J. Allen Hynek. And many, many more... ✨🛸✨
A true scientist! He doesn’t appear to be a sell out, which is becoming more and more frequent.
Great discussion.
When I was little I used to ALWAYS see lines of people walking into the wall right outside my door. Something I literally will never forget.
What exactly do you mean by 'lines of people walking into the wall right outside your door'? I'm genuinely curious about what you're trying to convey.
@@johnlove1008 Probably a line of people walking through the wall in a line formation one by one. .
Listening to Garry talk is always a "pallate cleanser" for anyone who finds themselves bogged down in the politics of UAP disclosure.
Today's greatest comment. 👍👍
This should be a great interview to kick up the numbers for the channel
Love your work Gary, love from down under. Love the interview
Great interview, beautiful host and guest!
Thank you for this interview- the Truth will out - thank you Dr Nolan for accepting and investigating “the data” which Humanity continues to experience.
Awesome interview! I was really struck when Gary mentioned that he connects more with Shamanic practitioners over this topic than other scientists. I really think more of an effort should be made to bring in accomplished mystics and yogis to the uap consciousness conversation.
Great interview! When Sean Kirkpatrick released the recent UAP report, I asked why they had zero documentation regarding the scientific process they followed and used to come to their conclusions. I also asked Greenstreet to ask him during his “exclude” interview with Sean. I received no response in both instances. A friend then said to stop asking reasonably intelligent questions because I might hurt someone’s feelings! lol 😂
How has Garry not been invited to main steam news or talk shows to discuss the UFO topic. He is someone of impeccable public standing and clearly not whacky. This is one of the most important questions in our existence and I just don't understand why this is not the number 1 story around the world. Makes you wonder
Quality interview with Gary Nolan with thoughtful questions and comments? Ruthlessly subscribed!
I need him to do my algebra homework! He's smarter than my math teacher 😅
Yet another great conversation with Gary! Glad to have stumbled upon your channel!
nolan is the man! more scientists should start to show leadership and boldness and stop being followers
Well said!! The academia cult stifles novel thinking. They’re just a little more subtle with it than they were in Galileo’s day.
Stigma and ego are powerful drugs.
Love people like Gary, so honest, interesting and well spoken
What a delightful and inspiring discussion. Thank you both.
Love hearing Dr. Nolan talk on this topic. Loved the Sol talks. Loved the Taylor/Tyler mix up from Diana Pasulka's book 😂
Tyler's real name is Tim Taylor
I remember it like it was yesterday, a summer night just past 10 PM my best friend and I were out on the street playing football. The occasional chirp of crickets provided the rhythmic backdrop to our game; things were calm and chill. We were twelve, and nothing seemed more important than perfecting our shots. Suddenly, a bright light in the sky started growing brighter. At first, it seemed like just another star or maybe a plane. But this had no sound, with lights outshining everything around it. completely silent.
We stood there, rooted to the spot, our football game forgotten. The strange thing slowly moved until it hovered above an 8 floor apartment building just 50 meters away in front of us, where the shape then became clear: a sleek, metallic rounded saucer, unlike anything we'd ever seen or imagined, with several lights at its base. It just hovered on the very top of that building roof (which strangely just had all its lights off like it had drained all its power) completely still and silent. My heart was pounding and my friend 's eyes were wide with fear and excitement.
all of this took maybe 20 seconds, and first reaction after that was us just sprinting to my parents house, which was only a few meters away. the sprint took no more than five seconds. I burst through the door and dashed to the living room window, shouting for my parents. "Mom! Dad! You've got to see this!" We rushed over, but when we all peered out the window, the sky was empty. The UFO had vanished, gone and the building was now with the apartment lights on. My parents exchanged puzzled looks, clearly skeptical. My friend and I knew what we had seen. There was no way something that large could have disappeared so quickly and at the same time the building just magically turned its lights on. The space above the building was now just an ordinary patch of sky, as if nothing extraordinary had happened.
We spent the rest of the night trying to make sense of it. Why was it hovering the building? Why did the building had its lights off at the same time? We are now both 41 and we speculate still today what the hell was all that about that we saw that night. One thing is clear for both of us: something extraordinary visited our quiet street that night.
Are you an author? You wrote that like you were writing a book. Good job.
They can probably cloak themselves and many people believe that they can alter the light waves around them so we see only what they want us to.
Great conversation, I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks for your content.
Great talk, very interesting. Thanks for your time guys and keep up the good work.
Very well done Luciano and Garry of course. I look forward to many more interesting exchanges of ideas here. Cheers!
Much more to come! Thank you 🙏🏻
@@behindgreatnesspodcast Great, I am a serious ufologist with over 53 years of research done so far and am an experiencer. Really like your channel! Cheers.
Really enjoyed the interview. Thank you.
Cool! Gary Nolan! Ok I just subscribed, Cheers from Milwaukee 🍻🧀
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I have asked professors in various fields on the topic of intuition (gut feeling). Some say yes, it is factored into decisions, but do not openly disclose it. Others say only the hard statistically relevant data should influence decision making, but admit (at times) that there are hunches that influence such. I believe in the importance o cultivating and harnessing one's intuitive abilities, and in particular learn how to "tune into" the innate ability of pulling from intuition, which at present is still greatly underestimated.
I totally enjoyed this! ❤
We need Garry’s clones for the future.
If you've ever played Fallout 3 you know why this is a bad idea
Dr Nolan is a Maverick Genius
Big Foot looks in my windows at night (sometimes) Someone told me that shutting the blinds works to keep their snooping at bay. So Gary, I can't be in a room without shades. Now you know you are not alone.
Jacques Valle believes and so do others that what we see is the purposeful mental imagery that they want us to see. We think maybe they can alter our perceptions through some type of vibrating energy. The things we see and hear and experience are created from absorbing the energy that is in our environment. Those are vibrating waves and can probably be altered. We are like biological computers that are driven by electromagnetic energy and that energy can probably be tapped into just like with a computer. I think we know next to nothing about this universe and that we are probably very inferior to these beings.
I love his comment on 'dream states.' My experiences were more about supernatural and in-home interactions that occurred regularly for almost 4 years when I was a kid. I also had one has a very young child and I just knew it wasn't a dream, but that's what everyone else said it was. Anyway, during that 4 years (age 10-14), I studied the topics of ESP, hauntings and UFOs. I couldn't do controlled experiments for obvious reasons, but I did the best I could and documented everything, including my dreams. I got so good at documenting and remembering my dreams that I was able to remember up to 6 dreams in a night. I also experienced lucid dreaming. In my experiences, I've been completely conscious, in altered states and in dreams. While we still want to find the nuts and bolts of this phenomenon, I tend to think consciousness is key. And I think I might have *some* answers -- probably more like clues, but certainly not all.
Great 👍🏻 interview! I love Gary ❤️ And ur a captivating interviewer 😉 💕 Love from Frisco! 🌉 🛸💖 💋
When I was very young, I can't remember what age, I'm 71 now, I had what I thought was a dream, twice, of seeing what I called the skeleton men, looking in my crib. As soon as I saw and recognised them, the "dream" ended and I would wake up in the morning.
I saw this “man” on the moon during a “dream” state.
39:17 ...reminds me of the movie "Communion". Many of the encounters portrayed there are like "what do you actually see???"
The dogs up! Usually when I see Dr. Nolan the pooch is asleep.
A really nice interview
I've been seeing these craft for years, I described it years ago to friends and family before the TicTac ever became a name, I've had them following me at late at night when I walk my dog. I've had them sitting over the shed in my back garden just sitting there probably watching what I'm doing. I've had them following down the road. I've had them flying over my head because I walk my dog at night due to insomnia. The first sighting completely changed my life. I've always believed in aliens. I'd always believed we're not alone but when you actually see it for the first time it just blows you away. It's like seeing Christ or God or some sort of spiritual event. it's just a completely amazing thing to experience and I feel really privileged to have had that experience and the experiences afterwards I've never felt fear or intimidation or anything like that from these people and I call them people because that's what they are they people just like us, yeah, they're smarter than us, but only because they're more advanced than us at the moment, but I definitely feel things that I describe thoughts and feelings and ideas which I believe I've come from them, I am never afraid to tell anyone about my sightings, I don't feel shame or embarrassment, it's the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so why should I be afraid about talking about any of them? One thing I can tell everyone is there's more than one around there are literally thousands and thousands of these craft throughout the planet at one time,they're not constantly visible but they are there. I believe there's at least two or three over every town and city in this planet. If people knew how many they were, they would be absolutely shocked, they seem to possess scientific capabilities which to most people would seem all almost magical however, there are many stories of many different types of creatures craft et cetera coming to this planet, we can assume from this scientific fact and it is a fact because there's too many cases for it not to be correct that the propulsion systems that these craft use are quite common. We can deduce this because there seems to be many planets out there that seem to have cracked the scientific conundrum., I'm pretty sure Dr Nolan would agree with that and I'm absolutely convinced that very soon once we start developing proper nuclear fusion technology that there will be discoveries of exotic particles from those reactors that will give us the clues that we're looking for for the next stage of mankind's evolution, this is inevitable scientific fact and we can look on this as a fact because there's so many of these craft appearing with different designs and from different places that this scientific conundrum and the solving of it is easy and inevitable. Have a good day keep looking to the skies.
Great interview. He is such an intelligent and interesting guy. He's an experiencer so knows a NHI exists.
The metal dump is probably a wasted fuel core being disposed of.
Several of these did this while the crafts appeared to be in distress from what I remember.
One world world peace
I saw something when I was a kid. A lot of years later I found that many other people saw the same entity/being.
Gary Nolan always amazing ..
In Germany there is a program to study UAP s if you are interested, I can find it and look it up. I think it’s part of the physics department or some ‘hard’ science like it.
I used to be into studying poltergeist phenomenon and the spontaneous materializing of objects is very similar to this phenomenon. Elmer Green, Ph.D. relates a conversation with Brugh Joy M.D. where Brugh admits to being a poltergeist kid and having rocks materialize from the ceiling in his room and hit the floor. I believe the UFO metals and this phenomenon share a similar connection.
Occam's razor would say this about the 30 lb. of mixed molten metals:
One of the TikTac vessels made byMcDonald-Dougless at Skunk works gathered this molten mix from a foundry in an insulated container and they flew at mach 8 or 9 so they could dump it in this field to mystify and amaze the locals.
Could the molten metal be ablative covering? Needed to get here? Needed to travel around on the planet? Needed to go back where they came from?
Kit Green has done a number on Mr Nolan. One day, he'll figure it out. Then again, nobody wants to admit they were used and manipulated.
I don't know but I do know some funny business went on when it comes to the Rendlesham case.
Great opening! After a while I feel like they’re splitting hairs. Consider Bashar, Darryl Anka, Steven Greer, mini astronauts testimony, the disclosure project, the citizens hearing of a disclosure by Paul Hellyer, let’s goes on and on
Creatives are certainly wired up differently
Is he a creative or just honest to himself?
I love your work! I have a quick question. How does one object pass from one bubble into another without compromising the integrity of both bubbles as well as the subject object? Thanks!
Yes Mr. Nolan, the german word is „Schadenfreude“. I’m waiting for it too 😂. I wish you much success.
(mentors)...."few others that can't be named"......
"maybe you don't care if the mass of the herd are oblivious" They are looking to harvest specimens with superior Caudate Putamen? Oh, OK. Lab/Ranch/Zoo.
You should ask Garry about his own Caudate Putamen rating vs. general population.
Your show i just discovered GREAT guest Wargo SAS Wargo WOw dude nice
Seems to be all that we ever get, more questions.
37:55 Gary is saying He doesn't understand why this phenomenon just happened in some little boys room.
I can see why, you know sure maybe Gary Nolan would still be who he is with or without his NHI Experience, but perhaps it's what produced the Gary Nolan we see today, tackling the issue. I can't wait to see what Gary Nolan accomplishes post UAP Disclosure. It's clear they have "chosen" him to relay the msg..not to get all religious or culty lol
I'm just sayin!
Im curious, is there a correlation between synthesia with color and the concept of auras? BTW when he refers to asymmetrical political warfare with aaro , i can't lie i stick more to the spiritual component, solely cause i cant get a thing on nuts and bolts, and the more physical i hear of, just because of our history of post ww2, and intel interference i immediately lean towards government or humans playing games. At this point, when he mentions conclusions, im shocked i stll try to make them, i literally just need to shut up. Cause i look back a day later and immediately laughbat myself looking at it the next day. And what changed in ufo cases in the early 1980s where it went from day light Metallic structures to night time orbs and personal home in ur face experiences
I wish you would have made him elaborate on the religious overtone in the word of belief. Other than that, this was some great stuff to listen to.
The German word for the feeling you get when saying "I told you so" is called "Schadenfreude" (damage joy)
Gary isn't interviewed enough imo, excellent choice of guest. 👍
THIS GUY: when he speaks, I listen. Genius anyone?