My experience if owning an Mg was a nightmare. Yes it has a long warranty but the dealerships struggle to get MG to ever agree to a repair. I got burnt financially and won’t make the mistake again.
same with dacia, my friend, same with dacia. the 1.0 engine has a very well known turbo connecting rod rattle. they only update software to reduce noise instead of changing the turbo with a newer one without this issue. i have a 2021 Sandero Stepway and it came out of warranty this summer. SoL
@@comedyman112 wrong on Dacia and if its a 2021 or upto 6 years old its covered by the Dacia Zen Warranty i have a 2021 Sandero Mk3 which also came out of warranty in july and its been fine . MG on the other hand are not great at all as i put My neighbour had a 2020 HS on Mobility and it was stuck at the dealer for 2 Months Because the Rear Brakes Seized on and could not get replacements until then which is a joke .
@@stefandaniel1 LPG is getting rarer and barely talked about in UK but where it can be found it's under 1 pound a litre. Only downside would probably be a smaller boot
@@stefandaniel1 , Yep! The cost of LPG is less than 50% of petrol or diesel and it's 10 Times less polluant than them. And in Romania it's the most qualitative LPG in Europe, according to a testing company (2nd în Slovenia, 3rd in Croația, 4th in France, etc). That's why at least 90% of the taxi, Bolt, Uber, etc. drivers have cars on LPG. The others have hybrid cars. 😜🤫🤙🦸
@@stefandaniel1 one condition though. There has to be LPG Station nearby. Closest one to me is 15 miles away. If that one doesn't have any then next is 40 miles. Welcome to UK!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 you still have the extra petrol tank in the car, and the LPG can take you almost 400 miles, i'm sure you can find an LPG station in that range
easy choice for me, the dacias are VERY reliable, we have a duster from 2019, 4x4 prestige, loaded, no issues at all, not a single one... another dacia, sandero stepway III, cero issues, rides well, cvt transmision works well and the 3 cyl is less present than on my ex-Tcross for example... the new dacia duster comes with a 4x4 option that makes every other option in the market not up to the task. edit, bit of info, the extreme model has padded elbow support, reason why i went to the extreme.
And more expensive. The MG is cheaper to buy, has longer warranty and more tech as standard. I love my Duster which has only 8000 miles on it but has lots of problems with the electrics like many Renault based cars.
That design choice.annoyed me. You'd think that elbow support would be of more use in the motorway oriented Journey trim. Lumbar support should have been standard in both. I went for Journey in the end because I didn't like the Extreme's seat material.
@blueskies666 softwares, anything IT related, cheap reliable cars, good cheap furniture, insulated wires (all types), machinery / production parts these are the main ones as far as I know
@blueskies666 you may ask some taxi drivers having Dacia with 4-500 kkm how happy they are with their car - low maintenance and reliability.. and you will be amazed how happy they are.. dacia sold more than 2.4 million of Duster and more Sandero and Logan and they have continuously improved the quality and design of the cars.. seems a fair car, whit a lot of data, history to sustain this..
Nah It does because no one buys cars anymore, they all have endless debts for the rest of their life getting a PCP, pay a few hundreds quid a month, the return it after 3 years because no chance they can afford the final payment but still want a car, so renew it every 3 years stuck in a endless loop. And lenders celebrate 🥂
Dacia is getting better with each iteration. Design of that Duster is great outside. If you don't care about the plastics on the interior it is a great car. The MG has a more posh interior. So buy it if you want comfort instead of reliability. You will really enjoy that interior when waiting for road side assistance.
fml, another one that mentions plastics being hard or scratchy. dont care! its hard wearing. soft touch ages badly when uncared for, hard plastics can be scrubbed. The Duster isn't just the winner out of these 2 cars, but it is, pound for pound, the best car on sale in the UK today, by a mile!
Dacia do know how to screw together a well made hard plastic interior had my mk3 sandero over 3 years and apart from the odd wear and tear scratch theres no squeaks or rattles at all . imo from experience they do a better job than Toyota . I had a 2017 yaris hybrid for a short while inherited in 2021 and it was a rattle fest and everything fell really flimsy and hollow .
It may have 7 year 80000 mile warranty but the average owner shelled out a lot in repairs with MG in your reliability survey suggesting that items classed as wear and tear were not included and must have been pretty cheaply made.
Enjoyed the comparison between the 2 cars, great job. I live in Austria and have ordered the Duster Journey 2WD with just one of the available options, (Winter Packet) The Duster is one of the top selling SUVs here and hold their value rearly well. Great looks a better drive and better value than the MG.
Some things that Dacia has and Mg are not in addition to those listed above (adjustable depth steering wheel, lpg, 4x4, climate control buttons): wireless charging, heated steering wheel and heated windshield, and Dacia also has soft elbow material but to a higher version
By far the best value here is the entry model Duster, which I think has enough kit to keep the average driver happy, and the plastics in the interior are so easy to keep clean, especially when you have kids. It is also pure ICE, which to my mind, is very nice. I also suspect it will hold its value extremely well too.
In this iteration Duster has a really bloody good look. And MG still being just a generic chinese car. And thats really a big point especially for urban and younger buyers
Duster has 1.0 and 1.2 renault engines ,if you have IQ bigger then room temperature you should run away from that engines at all cost ( if you want to keep car after warranty )
Let’s not forget that duster was made with off roading in mind plastic like that is easier to clean and you’ll also care less when it does get dirty rather than a nice expensive leather
well - i just got a 6 month old Suzuki Swace. 1.8 eCVT Self charging hybrid. Ultra Spec. Paid over 5k less than these SUV's. 0-60 in - 9.2. 140bhp - 102 c02s - 66mpg! - PLUS a 600LT boot and warranty till 2030!! I do prefer the position on the road in an SUV - but could not find anything that came close to Suzuki's/Toyota's Hybrid Estate! I am not in love with it, its not as lush as an Audi A6 Avant or drive like a 3 Series BMW - but as a tool to get you from A to B for family needs. Perfect. I must be getting old now! lol
I think the Dacia Duster still is the bench mark in the segment, but you wouldn't go wrong with the MG either, especially if you don't mind the lack of dealerships and the fussiness to repair it
You may be right on the rust issue with the MG. I had a Duster for 10 years here in Austria and no rust issues even with roads salted for 5 months of the year.
In your (surprise!) very own very recent small SUVs reliability survey backed by 29967 responses gathered across 6 months and published on 06-Oct-2024, Dacia Duster (2018-present) sits at #4 in decreasing order of reliability while the MG ZS (2017-2024) sits at... #22... the second to last. There's no reason to scrupulously compare European engineering against 100% high grade Chinesium with a British badge. Another reasonable thing would've been to emit a judgement on the Duster as a whole based on the engine it will be most sought after with, that being the TCe 130. People looking for high value will most absolutely and definitely NOT be looking at the Hybrid 140. Then, the value proposition would've been ridiculously evident no matter how you look at it. Of course, if you would've done the aforementioned 2 reasonable things there would've been no reason to do this video...
2:28 - În România, the Duster's price starts from 16990 € list price, without the Rabla discount (probably, with some discounts it will be 2-3 k euros cheaper), which îs about 14228 £, probably the cheapest new Duster in Europe, Duster Essential Eco-G 100, 100 HP, bi-fuel petrol-LPG, with an autonomy of 1450 km, with both fuel tanks full. So, beat that, rivals and haters! 😜🤫🤙🦸🏆
you don t have autobahn in romania because i rented a jogger 1.0 bifuel and with 5 people a 10% inclination this engine suffers! it bearly holds the velocity at 5000rpm in the 3 gear UNDERPOWERED and not comfort to drive with screaming engine!
Dont be fooled by the MG hybrid system as unlike the Renault/Dacia System which was new from the ground up when it was launched couple of years ago the MG is just a Parts bin Special . So its the same system as in the MG3 but the 1.5 engine is just the old 1.5 from the previous MG3 plus the 3 speed Gearbox is from old SAIC cars like getting on for 20 years ago and in mg3 atm its been problematic with the gearbox getting stuck in neutral and wont change gear . Plus Reliability not great even with 7 year warranty my neighbour had a 2020 HS on mobility and 2 years later the rear brakes seized on and was at the dealer for 2 Months as like with all Chinese cars Spare Parts are non Existent . So she swapped it for a 2023 Hyundai Tuscon .
If you look at other reviews on say the MG Zs hybrid+. Everyone says how good it is. I don't really like how the Whatcar reviewers are, it's always the same kind of comments. Unless it's a BMW or Audi they always critisize everything and don't take into account that these cars are half price or less than the BMWs and Audi equivalents. I advise people to look at independent reviewers and not people who maybe are told what to say about certain cars. Money talks 😉
There is something nobody speaks of: although Dacia's plastic may be or look cheap, it is perfectly assorted to the car's looks in a way Suzuki Jimny's interior completes the exterior of the car. Otherwords, Dacia's design makes cheap plastic seem cool and perfect for the car.
A business owner who earns million a year buys a brand New rolls royce for £100k with tax breaks, this is only 1 month's earning, but if a person on minimum living wages of £20k buys a brand new car for £20k, No tax breaks, this is whole years wages wiped out, whole country should go on strike until they pay up
Hey, you are comparing apples to oranges here, the Duster is a very capable off-road SUV whereas the MZ is definitely not, and probably not even available with 4wd
MG ZS's insurance will be incredibly high due to parts availability, I had a quote back of 90 quid a month whereas Dacia Duster Journey for me was 35 quid, this will be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
El MG será todo lo que queráis pero la diferencia de ruido cuando hablan dentro del MG y cuando hablan dentro del Duster es brutal.... el Duster está mucho mejor insonorizado
Es cierto, la rodadura del MG se siente mas, pero tengo la sensación de que todo lo demás está insonorizado menos eso, podría ser por las ruedas o porque esa parte en especifico no está insonorizada. Pero todo lo demás y sobretodo el motor, ni se oye. Te lo digo porque lo he probado personalmente xD
Duster. I have the previous model and for the money, it's excellent. Great value, great workhorse, straightforward 4x4, goes off-road and up farm tracks without missing a beat.
If you’re after the most value oriented ZS, just sit tight for more info on the petrol only model, which launches in early 2025. I also wouldn’t ignore the massive savings on the out-going model which could save you thousands overall! What Car have always had a pretty negative view of the old model, but it has a lot going for it, and you don’t buy these cars because it’s premium (because it isn’t!), but I find it’s a perfectly respectable, great value family car. 👍
@ohyesitsme So I'm assuming you never buy anything from Amazon or Ebay. Almost all, every day items you touch are made in China. From lights to picture frames. The only people who can afford to not from shop china arnt buying a Duster. Also I'm assuming you don't own any Apple products?
Another great comparison test, great video, for me Dacia Duster 4x4 would be the choice if offered in automatic 😊❤. Tried manual and it's not good to drive
Mild hybrid works as a sort of coasting battery. So as you slow down it’ll shut the engine down, and it’ll give you a (very) minor boost when you pull away. But you’ll never be able to run on pure electricity.
Mild hibrid, motorul electric ajută motorul la pornire și atunci când are nevoie de mai multă putere. Ful hibrid, mașina se poate deplasa doar cu motorul electric în oraș, la viteza mică, deci : economie de combustibil!
I can get the Trophy spec in the MG for £5,500 less than the Hybrid Duster Extreme - £21, 800 incl metallic paint. That's just too big a gap to consider the Duster. The higher price and poor discount of the Duster also means I could consider other cars i.e. Skoda Karoq (albeit not Hybrid) which are far nicer to drive..
Thank god u said the dacia was better in different ways but still a good option, because I already reserved a Dacia Duster mild hybrid for the of the year and I didn´t knew if I was doing a right decision, but still a good video for knowing more in detail a similar car
I just like how car journalists get bruised so easily by a bit of hard plastic. But lets be honest that plastic will hold up much better compared to the fake leather that will break after a bit of time in the sun. The ZS also has some sharp plastic cuts, for example when ajusting the height of the seatbelt (went to a showroom and cut my finger).
@@PassportToPimlico exactly; In case of the Renault system used in the Dacia, the Electric engine also gets 2 gears, so you are left with officially 14 or 15 combinations, so plenty; In the MG until approx 55 mph (86 km/h exactly), the engine is just a generator and the electric engine drives the engine, so the other gears are just for speeds above that; others use ECVTs (which are actually not a classic CVT) or even no gears (Honda, direct drive on the motor way, other wise electric motor does the drive); I think only not PHEV full hybrid to use a classic gear box is the Hyundai Ioniq (the one without a number) and Kia Niro.
the 4 speed in the Renault/dacia hybrid models has Variable ratios so it changes it to the driving conditions and is a good system . The 3 speed on the MG however is just a 3 speed Torque converter from 20+ years ago SAIC Models thats it . Just a lazy Parts pin Special Hybrid System along with the 1.5 engine which is from the Previous MG3 and very outdated.
@@ben3291 THing is, if you don't need gears 1-4 or so, 3 is more than enough. In either case, you will have scenarios where revs are unnaturally high (as you do with a Toyota eCVT, where I have plenty personal experience), situations where the engine is just a generator and in most normal driving conditions, not really notice much going on.
well from what I have read your going to need that 7 year warranty as the engines are poor and not very reliable On the MG car I agree with you guys the Ncap on the Duster could be better the last review I watched was saying it missed out on a 4 star due to some of the electricery aids on collision cyclists and people things of that nature and as you said the Dacia is a very nice car to look at interior is no frills wipe cleen dash simple to keep looking good great review keep up the good work .
The MG looks much better in the interrior. Also the fake leather seats are a must for me. I don't like fabric at all. I would have liked the clima control to be physical instead of the volume buttons.
for me it's the exact opposite, I don't like leather seats and I prefer canvas, the leather seats are hot in the summer and cold in the winter, the Mg's interior is grotesque, the screen is centered, it doesn't have a steering wheel that can be adjusted in depth, it doesn't have climate buttons , it doesn't have wirless charging, it doesn't have a heated windshield, it doesn't have a heated steering wheel, you don't have a 4x4, you don't have LPG, and sometimes the plastic on the doors can be very useful, if you have children, or you touch them with a sharp object, they don't break
@@amosardelean6488Do you work for them or something? You seem to be very active on their behalf. Or is it you just own a car of that brand and feel the need to justify your purchase?
none of above, but i will buy a dacia spring because with less money you will get the jobe done, not every one can afdord a more expensive brand..so consider this brand a tool to acomplish your job for those who have less money
Very nice to look at Dacia's video comments in 2018..2019...2020... 🙂; they were lot worse than the MG one's today. Reflect about this little thing.......
Yes we know you can get better cars for more money as you kept saying many times. But we don't all have more money, if I was to buy a Ford Puma I could still buy a better car, Aston Martin same thing I could still buy a better car. So next time just review on the cars like for like. The rest of the review was very good.
Renault makes great cars. No problem for at least 100.000 km.. so if you buy it new, you gonna have a great journey till you get bored of it and buy a new model.
ZS won easily. If it was all down to PCP figures you should have used the ZS SE instead. The other interesting point to note is that the ZS is not even in the same segment as the Duster, it sits lower yet can easily compete on interior and boot space.
It's not even a comparison. The Duster is simply better. Except for that hard plastic instead of padded elbow area on the doors, it's embarrassing for Dacia to do that. I mean, you can't drive it one hour without needing a band-aid for the elbow, didn't they notice this in testing ?
Buy EU made and owned by European brand or buy China and brand owned by the actual Chinese Communist Party? No debate. But European. Support democracy based organisations with employee rights and duties. Don't support allies of Russia and NK. Better cars too.
J’ai essayé le ZS et je ne vois vraiment pas ce que vous lui reprochez en conduite,j’ai eu des autos sportives tels que des rs4 ,lancer évolution,civic type r et là je reviens de l’essai je pourrais être très critique vu ce que j’ai connu et non pas dutout j’ai eu du plaisir au volant,c’est doux et silencieux,je la trouve reposante et assez nerveuse dans les dépassement je vous trouve très dur avec cette auto. Elle est bien plus valorisante que le duster qui fait très très très plastique. En France les coûts d’entretien sont raisonnables et l’assurance très correcte ,elle consomme très peu comparé aux performances. Il faut comprendre que vous êtes essayeurs auto et que vous voyez que des autos neuves dernier cri mais moi j’ai une auto de 2015 et je change en 2024 et je peux vous dire que mon xtrail dci de 2o15 est complètement dépassé par cette MG donc relativisez vos critiques et ne comparez pas au modèles récents 10000€ plus chers . Je vais sûrement prendre la MG ,la duster est trop plastique le moteur est nul et de derrière il est haut perché avec ses roues toutes fines .
You haven't talked much about the real world acceleration and dynamic of both engines. On paper MG wins that, providing significantly better fuel economy. Some of the ergonomics issues are really inexcusable in modern world for both cars!
True, they make a lot of emphasis on certain aspects, but they forget key things, such as visibility in the driving position, which is good in the ZS and bad in Duster. Also the smoothness of acceleration, engine response seems key to me
The 140 1.6 hybrid Jogger suggests it does 56.4 on the trip computer🤔 20MY 1.5dci 58mpg average from new with best if 65 mpg touring Norway all tank to tank.
7:28 You are correct, because china is LHD market & this car didn't get the optimization for RHD market, that's why its tilted towards front passenger side!
I've 3 questions please. First .....there is a very fragile looking cable running forward from the battery under the boot floor.....what is that for? Looks a bit amateurish last minute thought. Second ...... another site suggested there wasn't any corrosion underseal protection underneath......is that correct? And third........is why do these manufacturers think we don't need a spare wheel? Had to wait hours for recovery once because car at the time only had a useless tyre repair/inflation kit. All not glamorous questions but what I'd suggest are 'real world' concerns.
Dacia should offer the option to buy a soft armrest instead of the plastic one for a few hundred euros. It can be seen that the plastic piece is attached, so it can be changed. And this should be the strategy even for dashboard or other things, if costumers want lux they should have the option to pay extra for it.
At least in some markets, there is a material-covered arm rest in the Extreme trim, but it's pretty thin and not very good. Since that plastic is detachable, if I were to buy that car, I would pad that part myself with a better material.
Yet another review in this class where the use of plastics is highlighted for criticism, it's maddening. What bit of 'cheap functional SUV' do you not understand? If you want superfluous luxury, pay £10k more for something else, simple.
The point is that both are classed as small/medium SUVs. The the Bigster and the HS are in the next size bracket. Although I agree to a certain extent, I own a Duster and I test drove the ZS which seemed a bit bigger.
MG is so bland, hence the poor residual, ive seen one year old at half RRP! Dacia definately looks very right, unlike alot of new designs with big sieve like front grills and abstract shaped bodies! Im defo going for the hybrid duster!
The heater not getting up to the temp requested is an old trick some ev's used to make them look better on test. A few degrees can make a noticable difference on a small battery ev - or a hybrid who's battery can be used for longer periods if there is less demand. Depending what the loop was that could have made most of the mpg difference alone. Best to take a thermometer with you next time and set them so they are actually equal. The same used to be true for speed with them over reading as closely to the 10% limit as they could get away with. When companies need to cheat for reviews it does flag the obvious question of why...
sounds like you are in favour of your bells and whistles if thats what you want then the Duster is not for you so maybe your more the creature comforts person there is nothing wrong with the Duster this will sell like hot cakes ..😀
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The Duster is just a straightforward no nonsense SUV that is practical and actually looks good!
I can't believe you completely ignored the off-road aspect of the Duster, which is half the reason of why it is so popular.
Ans which isnt available in every version or motor.. and not available with Hybrid
@@Modoki_999 all Dusters have good off-road capabilities .. I wouldn't try to go off-road with the MG.. maybe a light one
@@raicaluci7707 it still just a 2 wheel drive SUV in hybrid version.. nothing amazing for off road compares to 4x4 versions..
@@Modoki_999 they are the ground clearance. the atack angle, wheelbase and many more. aspects to consider
@@raicaluci7707 but will have traction issue tho... stop claiming 2 wheel drive is same as 4x4...
My experience if owning an Mg was a nightmare. Yes it has a long warranty but the dealerships struggle to get MG to ever agree to a repair. I got burnt financially and won’t make the mistake again.
Chinese are not trust worthy. They just sell, and barely care about warranty or refunds
same with dacia, my friend, same with dacia. the 1.0 engine has a very well known turbo connecting rod rattle. they only update software to reduce noise instead of changing the turbo with a newer one without this issue. i have a 2021 Sandero Stepway and it came out of warranty this summer. SoL
@@comedyman112 Bullshit. Dacia is well more reliable than the Chinese crap MG
@@comedyman112 wrong on Dacia and if its a 2021 or upto 6 years old its covered by the Dacia Zen Warranty i have a 2021 Sandero Mk3 which also came out of warranty in july and its been fine . MG on the other hand are not great at all as i put My neighbour had a 2020 HS on Mobility and it was stuck at the dealer for 2 Months Because the Rear Brakes Seized on and could not get replacements until then which is a joke .
@@ben3291 i asked them dacia Zen warranty does not exist in Romania. sad
The best one is the cheapest Duster, at £18745 with LPG, in 60k miles you save an additional £4000 on fuel, no useless tech to break, just perfect
@@stefandaniel1 LPG is getting rarer and barely talked about in UK but where it can be found it's under 1 pound a litre. Only downside would probably be a smaller boot
Runnin on lpg is like livin in 2006 gas prices with 2024 salary.
Fantastic !
@@stefandaniel1 , Yep! The cost of LPG is less than 50% of petrol or diesel and it's 10 Times less polluant than them. And in Romania it's the most qualitative LPG in Europe, according to a testing company (2nd în Slovenia, 3rd in Croația, 4th in France, etc). That's why at least 90% of the taxi, Bolt, Uber, etc. drivers have cars on LPG. The others have hybrid cars. 😜🤫🤙🦸
@@stefandaniel1 one condition though. There has to be LPG Station nearby. Closest one to me is 15 miles away. If that one doesn't have any then next is 40 miles. Welcome to UK!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 you still have the extra petrol tank in the car, and the LPG can take you almost 400 miles, i'm sure you can find an LPG station in that range
So, chinese vs european made? Should not be a serious question.
And in the end, MG is better in all terms
easy choice for me, the dacias are VERY reliable, we have a duster from 2019, 4x4 prestige, loaded, no issues at all, not a single one... another dacia, sandero stepway III, cero issues, rides well, cvt transmision works well and the 3 cyl is less present than on my ex-Tcross for example... the new dacia duster comes with a 4x4 option that makes every other option in the market not up to the task.
edit, bit of info, the extreme model has padded elbow support, reason why i went to the extreme.
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And more expensive. The MG is cheaper to buy, has longer warranty and more tech as standard. I love my Duster which has only 8000 miles on it but has lots of problems with the electrics like many Renault based cars.
@ I mean, if you want more tech is ok… me with the back up camera and the android auto is already too much… what I need is durability and 4x4
That design choice.annoyed me. You'd think that elbow support would be of more use in the motorway oriented Journey trim. Lumbar support should have been standard in both.
I went for Journey in the end because I didn't like the Extreme's seat material.
@@mattmckeon1688 i don't like the extreme material, well, now with the cold and the rain i love it but in the next summer is going to be horrible
4:18 It's not a TCe 140, there is no turbo on this engine. It's a 1.6 N/A engine plus the electric motors.
Needs to be considered: The Duster doesn‘t need to be shipped around the world to get it.
And you don't give more money to the CCP.
@blueskies666 which is a good thing
@ …or Morocco 🇲🇦
@blueskies666 softwares, anything IT related, cheap reliable cars, good cheap furniture, insulated wires (all types), machinery / production parts these are the main ones as far as I know
@blueskies666 you may ask some taxi drivers having Dacia with 4-500 kkm how happy they are with their car - low maintenance and reliability.. and you will be amazed how happy they are..
dacia sold more than 2.4 million of Duster and more Sandero and Logan and they have continuously improved the quality and design of the cars.. seems a fair car, whit a lot of data, history to sustain this..
Just in styling, before anything else, the Dacia looks like a thoroughly modern European car, whereas the MG looks like something from 5+ years ago.
Just an idea: No matter how much I trust the Chinese manufacturer, I always prefer the reliability of the Renault product from the Dacia factory.
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3 year ownership means nothing to most people, 10-12 year ownership is more representative
Nah It does because no one buys cars anymore, they all have endless debts for the rest of their life getting a PCP, pay a few hundreds quid a month, the return it after 3 years because no chance they can afford the final payment but still want a car, so renew it every 3 years stuck in a endless loop. And lenders celebrate 🥂
Well I'm sure they will be back in 2036 to tell you how good they were..... jees...
@ did you even watch the video? They are saying the ownership cost… as if these cars are even 3 years old
12? Means nothing! At least 20
Most people I know have cars for about 7 years
Dacia is getting better with each iteration. Design of that Duster is great outside. If you don't care about the plastics on the interior it is a great car. The MG has a more posh interior. So buy it if you want comfort instead of reliability. You will really enjoy that interior when waiting for road side assistance.
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fml, another one that mentions plastics being hard or scratchy. dont care! its hard wearing. soft touch ages badly when uncared for, hard plastics can be scrubbed. The Duster isn't just the winner out of these 2 cars, but it is, pound for pound, the best car on sale in the UK today, by a mile!
Dacia do know how to screw together a well made hard plastic interior had my mk3 sandero over 3 years and apart from the odd wear and tear scratch theres no squeaks or rattles at all . imo from experience they do a better job than Toyota . I had a 2017 yaris hybrid for a short while inherited in 2021 and it was a rattle fest and everything fell really flimsy and hollow .
whatsinmy AI fixes this. Dacia Duster vs MG ZS
It may have 7 year 80000 mile warranty but the average owner shelled out a lot in repairs with MG in your reliability survey suggesting that items classed as wear and tear were not included and must have been pretty cheaply made.
Have you had one, 4 years 30k faultless
Lucky you. MG seem to have a bad reputation for trying to get out of warranty work, time off road, and parts availability.
Bigster vs MG HS please…
Dacia. Don't buy chinese! It's easy.
Enjoyed the comparison between the 2 cars, great job. I live in Austria and have ordered the Duster Journey 2WD with just one of the available options, (Winter Packet) The Duster is one of the top selling SUVs here and hold their value rearly well. Great looks a better drive and better value than the MG.
Some things that Dacia has and Mg are not in addition to those listed above (adjustable depth steering wheel, lpg, 4x4, climate control buttons): wireless charging, heated steering wheel and heated windshield, and Dacia also has soft elbow material but to a higher version
Nope. Not even on the higher trims
@@alxdava2004 yes and much more ;)
The problem with MG is their dreadful reputation for reliability.
No idea what camshaft drive the MG has, but the Duster has a long life timing chain, so no cambelt service changes.
By far the best value here is the entry model Duster, which I think has enough kit to keep the average driver happy, and the plastics in the interior are so easy to keep clean, especially when you have kids. It is also pure ICE, which to my mind, is very nice. I also suspect it will hold its value extremely well too.
In this iteration Duster has a really bloody good look. And MG still being just a generic chinese car. And thats really a big point especially for urban and younger buyers
Guess that's why duster has better residual values
Duster has 1.0 and 1.2 renault engines ,if you have IQ bigger then room temperature you should run away from that engines at all cost ( if you want to keep car after warranty )
Duster is too pretentious IMHO, trying too much being what it really isn't. In the long term it may age quicker. MG is more subtle.
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@@dzonikg, what's wrong with those engines? Taxi drivers with over 300k miles on the clock with the 1.0 TCE would like to disagree with you.
Let’s not forget that duster was made with off roading in mind plastic like that is easier to clean and you’ll also care less when it does get dirty rather than a nice expensive leather
well - i just got a 6 month old Suzuki Swace.
1.8 eCVT Self charging hybrid. Ultra Spec. Paid over 5k less than these SUV's.
0-60 in - 9.2. 140bhp - 102 c02s - 66mpg! - PLUS a 600LT boot and warranty till 2030!!
I do prefer the position on the road in an SUV - but could not find anything that came close to Suzuki's/Toyota's Hybrid Estate!
I am not in love with it, its not as lush as an Audi A6 Avant or drive like a 3 Series BMW - but as a tool to get you from A to B for family needs. Perfect.
I must be getting old now! lol
What about looks? Duster is much more attractive. Looks rugged and like a proper off roader. Also there is a 4x4 option.
I think the Dacia Duster still is the bench mark in the segment, but you wouldn't go wrong with the MG either, especially if you don't mind the lack of dealerships and the fussiness to repair it
I would choose the Duster
I was all for the MG until it got to the climate controls and the faffy touch screen. No go. 👎
I believe you can configure the Favorite ⭐ button on the staring wheel to control it (I have seem it on other reviews here on RUclips)
Not when you are using carplay @@hlandims
El climatizador en grados de temperatura y nivel de soplado se cambia desde los mandos del volante
The fan speed and temperature can simply be adjusted from a shortcut on the steering wheel.
You did not cover one thing! After 3-4 years the MG will be a rust bucket! The duster will be ok even after 10-15 years.
You may be right on the rust issue with the MG. I had a Duster for 10 years here in Austria and no rust issues even with roads salted for 5 months of the year.
Have a 7yr old MG3. No rust at all
Maybe a tad optimistic with 15 years but 10 years i can definitely see with no issues on a Dacia .
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Duster just looks soooo good
MG looks like old hyundai ...or latest Audi, which is not a compliment 😅
"Looks like old Hyundai or latest Audi"... 😄 Didn't think of it that way, but is so true...
In your (surprise!) very own very recent small SUVs reliability survey backed by 29967 responses gathered across 6 months and published on 06-Oct-2024, Dacia Duster (2018-present) sits at #4 in decreasing order of reliability while the MG ZS (2017-2024) sits at... #22... the second to last. There's no reason to scrupulously compare European engineering against 100% high grade Chinesium with a British badge.
Another reasonable thing would've been to emit a judgement on the Duster as a whole based on the engine it will be most sought after with, that being the TCe 130. People looking for high value will most absolutely and definitely NOT be looking at the Hybrid 140. Then, the value proposition would've been ridiculously evident no matter how you look at it.
Of course, if you would've done the aforementioned 2 reasonable things there would've been no reason to do this video...
What's the deal with the plastic arm rest? My "premium" 2015 BMW has a plastic armrest and this wasn't an issue for a bloody 30k- 40k euro car.
No contest. The Duster wins hands down.
if the duster got the eco g 140 from the bigster it would be unstoppable, cheap driving and good power
It most likely will come to the Duster later.
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Maybe MG changed the steering wheel from left to right and the infotainment remained the same.
Why are car reviewers obsessed with climate controls? Every car I have had in the last 10 years I've set the climate to 20.5 and never touched again!
because it's not just about that, you have a lot of functions that you need to go in a specific menu, and that can distract you from the road
2:28 - În România, the Duster's price starts from 16990 € list price, without the Rabla discount (probably, with some discounts it will be 2-3 k euros cheaper), which îs about 14228 £, probably the cheapest new Duster in Europe, Duster Essential Eco-G 100, 100 HP, bi-fuel petrol-LPG, with an autonomy of 1450 km, with both fuel tanks full. So, beat that, rivals and haters! 😜🤫🤙🦸🏆
you don t have autobahn in romania because i rented a jogger 1.0 bifuel and with 5 people a 10% inclination this engine suffers! it bearly holds the velocity at 5000rpm in the 3 gear UNDERPOWERED and not comfort to drive with screaming engine!
@saloserra5711 , because You're a stoopid driver. 🫵🦧🤫 Qed. 🤗😜🤏
1.0 is not best for highway usage... Unfortunately is not powerful enough. It struggles with 130 km/h. It struggles even on Clio...
From this week all Dacia cars are more expensive between 400 and 1000 euros depend of model and motorization
Dont be fooled by the MG hybrid system as unlike the Renault/Dacia System which was new from the ground up when it was launched couple of years ago the MG is just a Parts bin Special . So its the same system as in the MG3 but the 1.5 engine is just the old 1.5 from the previous MG3 plus the 3 speed Gearbox is from old SAIC cars like getting on for 20 years ago and in mg3 atm its been problematic with the gearbox getting stuck in neutral and wont change gear . Plus Reliability not great even with 7 year warranty my neighbour had a 2020 HS on mobility and 2 years later the rear brakes seized on and was at the dealer for 2 Months as like with all Chinese cars Spare Parts are non Existent . So she swapped it for a 2023 Hyundai Tuscon .
Just use one of the shortcut buttons to control climate control. V.easy.
Great Review... I'd go for the Duster.
Hello! Could you do a comparison on the New Dacia one against the Captur? Great review, by the way.
If you look at other reviews on say the MG Zs hybrid+. Everyone says how good it is. I don't really like how the Whatcar reviewers are, it's always the same kind of comments. Unless it's a BMW or Audi they always critisize everything and don't take into account that these cars are half price or less than the BMWs and Audi equivalents. I advise people to look at independent reviewers and not people who maybe are told what to say about certain cars. Money talks 😉
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Makes me laugh when they say there are better cars out there but they cost more money 🤔
@@martynmorris8160 exactly, don't trust what they say, when others say how great it is.
Dacia is the clear winner for sure. I would go with a mild hybrid. 517 liters of boot space and all equipment for 25k euros
There is something nobody speaks of: although Dacia's plastic may be or look cheap, it is perfectly assorted to the car's looks in a way Suzuki Jimny's interior completes the exterior of the car. Otherwords, Dacia's design makes cheap plastic seem cool and perfect for the car.
A business owner who earns million a year buys a brand New rolls royce for £100k with tax breaks, this is only 1 month's earning, but if a person on minimum living wages of £20k buys a brand new car for £20k, No tax breaks, this is whole years wages wiped out, whole country should go on strike until they pay up
Move to Cuba comrade.
Just appreciating that side on zs to duster transition 👏
DACIA DUSTER .
Hey, you are comparing apples to oranges here, the Duster is a very capable off-road SUV whereas the MZ is definitely not, and probably not even available with 4wd
One thing you can be sure off with what car ,is they will jever recommend any car that is up against a Renault/Dacia vehicle.
MG ZS's insurance will be incredibly high due to parts availability, I had a quote back of 90 quid a month whereas Dacia Duster Journey for me was 35 quid, this will be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
Quite the opposite, no real issues with parts.
the difference between them is on rough terrain, country roads. that's why the duster is preferred and sold so well.
El MG será todo lo que queráis pero la diferencia de ruido cuando hablan dentro del MG y cuando hablan dentro del Duster es brutal.... el Duster está mucho mejor insonorizado
Es cierto, la rodadura del MG se siente mas, pero tengo la sensación de que todo lo demás está insonorizado menos eso, podría ser por las ruedas o porque esa parte en especifico no está insonorizada. Pero todo lo demás y sobretodo el motor, ni se oye. Te lo digo porque lo he probado personalmente xD
Duster. I have the previous model and for the money, it's excellent. Great value, great workhorse, straightforward 4x4, goes off-road and up farm tracks without missing a beat.
If you’re after the most value oriented ZS, just sit tight for more info on the petrol only model, which launches in early 2025.
I also wouldn’t ignore the massive savings on the out-going model which could save you thousands overall!
What Car have always had a pretty negative view of the old model, but it has a lot going for it, and you don’t buy these cars because it’s premium (because it isn’t!), but I find it’s a perfectly respectable, great value family car. 👍
Wouldn't touch an MG with a barge pole. Very unreliable which dealers refuse to accept and it's Chinese.
@ohyesitsme So I'm assuming you never buy anything from Amazon or Ebay. Almost all, every day items you touch are made in China. From lights to picture frames. The only people who can afford to not from shop china arnt buying a Duster. Also I'm assuming you don't own any Apple products?
I'd definitely take the MG and put some premium tyres on it
Another great comparison test, great video, for me Dacia Duster 4x4 would be the choice if offered in automatic 😊❤. Tried manual and it's not good to drive
What's the difference between mild hybrid and full hybrid if full hybrid isn't a plug in hybrid ?
Mild hybrid works as a sort of coasting battery. So as you slow down it’ll shut the engine down, and it’ll give you a (very) minor boost when you pull away. But you’ll never be able to run on pure electricity.
A mild hybrid is a gimmick
Mild hibrid, motorul electric ajută motorul la pornire și atunci când are nevoie de mai multă putere. Ful hibrid, mașina se poate deplasa doar cu motorul electric în oraș, la viteza mică, deci : economie de combustibil!
MG ZS is getting a bit long in the tooth. I think Dacia looks better although it doesn't exactly have stellar safety for a car that size.
The Duster takes the win! Much better looks and is a great car overall!
DACIA DUSTER is tje real winner!Reliability,parts easy to find and cheep mentenance!
What about PCP costs of a higher spec Duster matching the spec of the ZS
I can get the Trophy spec in the MG for £5,500 less than the Hybrid Duster Extreme - £21, 800 incl metallic paint. That's just too big a gap to consider the Duster. The higher price and poor discount of the Duster also means I could consider other cars i.e. Skoda Karoq (albeit not Hybrid) which are far nicer to drive..
Very happy with my 22 plate MG HS, no servicing probs, comfy and decent gadgets 😊
MG FOR REAL DEAL
Thank god u said the dacia was better in different ways but still a good option, because I already reserved a Dacia Duster mild hybrid for the of the year and I didn´t knew if I was doing a right decision, but still a good video for knowing more in detail a similar car
I just like how car journalists get bruised so easily by a bit of hard plastic. But lets be honest that plastic will hold up much better compared to the fake leather that will break after a bit of time in the sun.
The ZS also has some sharp plastic cuts, for example when ajusting the height of the seatbelt (went to a showroom and cut my finger).
3 and 4 spd automatics?
That’s where I’m confused too? My 130hp corsa has a 8 speed
@@dylanpower1438 I think that it is because they are hybrids. The electric motor is filling in the gaps between gears.
@@PassportToPimlico exactly; In case of the Renault system used in the Dacia, the Electric engine also gets 2 gears, so you are left with officially 14 or 15 combinations, so plenty; In the MG until approx 55 mph (86 km/h exactly), the engine is just a generator and the electric engine drives the engine, so the other gears are just for speeds above that; others use ECVTs (which are actually not a classic CVT) or even no gears (Honda, direct drive on the motor way, other wise electric motor does the drive); I think only not PHEV full hybrid to use a classic gear box is the Hyundai Ioniq (the one without a number) and Kia Niro.
the 4 speed in the Renault/dacia hybrid models has Variable ratios so it changes it to the driving conditions and is a good system . The 3 speed on the MG however is just a 3 speed Torque converter from 20+ years ago SAIC Models thats it . Just a lazy Parts pin Special Hybrid System along with the 1.5 engine which is from the Previous MG3 and very outdated.
@@ben3291 THing is, if you don't need gears 1-4 or so, 3 is more than enough. In either case, you will have scenarios where revs are unnaturally high (as you do with a Toyota eCVT, where I have plenty personal experience), situations where the engine is just a generator and in most normal driving conditions, not really notice much going on.
What are the resale values?
well from what I have read your going to need that 7 year warranty as the engines are poor and not very reliable On the MG car I agree with you guys the Ncap on the Duster could be better the last review I watched was saying it missed out on a 4 star due to some of the electricery aids on collision cyclists and people things of that nature and as you said the Dacia is a very nice car to look at interior is no frills wipe cleen dash simple to keep looking good great review keep up the good work .
The MG looks much better in the interrior. Also the fake leather seats are a must for me. I don't like fabric at all. I would have liked the clima control to be physical instead of the volume buttons.
En el MG se puede controlar el climatizador desde los mandos del volante. No es necesario tocar la pantalla central
The MG’s steering wheel control can be configured to control the climate control - poor review preparation.
for me it's the exact opposite, I don't like leather seats and I prefer canvas, the leather seats are hot in the summer and cold in the winter, the Mg's interior is grotesque, the screen is centered, it doesn't have a steering wheel that can be adjusted in depth, it doesn't have climate buttons , it doesn't have wirless charging, it doesn't have a heated windshield, it doesn't have a heated steering wheel, you don't have a 4x4, you don't have LPG, and sometimes the plastic on the doors can be very useful, if you have children, or you touch them with a sharp object, they don't break
@@amosardelean6488Do you work for them or something? You seem to be very active on their behalf. Or is it you just own a car of that brand and feel the need to justify your purchase?
none of above, but i will buy a dacia spring because with less money you will get the jobe done, not every one can afdord a more expensive brand..so consider this brand a tool to acomplish your job for those who have less money
Very nice to look at Dacia's video comments in 2018..2019...2020... 🙂; they were lot worse than the MG one's today. Reflect about this little thing.......
I used to sell Dacia, great product. Love the new duster.
Yes we know you can get better cars for more money as you kept saying many times. But we don't all have more money, if I was to buy a Ford Puma I could still buy a better car, Aston Martin same thing I could still buy a better car. So next time just review on the cars like for like. The rest of the review was very good.
The mg is cheaper to run so how can the Damian be better buy?
I get 48mpg out of my 2020 Duster tce
Haven't seen a new shape Duster in the flush yet but I might upgrade to a Renault Symbioz next time
1.5dci 58mpg average since new in 2021.
Jogger with hybrid averages 56.5 on trip computer.
Renault makes great cars.
No problem for at least 100.000 km.. so if you buy it new, you gonna have a great journey till you get bored of it and buy a new model.
the mg info screen is angled to the left because of lhd drive vehicles it is not designed for right hand drive
ZS won easily.
If it was all down to PCP figures you should have used the ZS SE instead.
The other interesting point to note is that the ZS is not even in the same segment as the Duster, it sits lower yet can easily compete on interior and boot space.
It's not even a comparison. The Duster is simply better. Except for that hard plastic instead of padded elbow area on the doors, it's embarrassing for Dacia to do that. I mean, you can't drive it one hour without needing a band-aid for the elbow, didn't they notice this in testing ?
Buy EU made and owned by European brand or buy China and brand owned by the actual Chinese Communist Party? No debate. But European. Support democracy based organisations with employee rights and duties. Don't support allies of Russia and NK. Better cars too.
Europe is becoming a dictatorship
The best fuel economy at the Duster is the LPG engine ! I drive 700 km with 40 euros !!!
J’ai essayé le ZS et je ne vois vraiment pas ce que vous lui reprochez en conduite,j’ai eu des autos sportives tels que des rs4 ,lancer évolution,civic type r et là je reviens de l’essai je pourrais être très critique vu ce que j’ai connu et non pas dutout j’ai eu du plaisir au volant,c’est doux et silencieux,je la trouve reposante et assez nerveuse dans les dépassement je vous trouve très dur avec cette auto. Elle est bien plus valorisante que le duster qui fait très très très plastique. En France les coûts d’entretien sont raisonnables et l’assurance très correcte ,elle consomme très peu comparé aux performances. Il faut comprendre que vous êtes essayeurs auto et que vous voyez que des autos neuves dernier cri mais moi j’ai une auto de 2015 et je change en 2024 et je peux vous dire que mon xtrail dci de 2o15 est complètement dépassé par cette MG donc relativisez vos critiques et ne comparez pas au modèles récents 10000€ plus chers .
Je vais sûrement prendre la MG ,la duster est trop plastique le moteur est nul et de derrière il est haut perché avec ses roues toutes fines .
2023 Sportage gt-line or a new duster ?
You haven't talked much about the real world acceleration and dynamic of both engines. On paper MG wins that, providing significantly better fuel economy. Some of the ergonomics issues are really inexcusable in modern world for both cars!
True, they make a lot of emphasis on certain aspects, but they forget key things, such as visibility in the driving position, which is good in the ZS and bad in Duster. Also the smoothness of acceleration, engine response seems key to me
The 140 1.6 hybrid Jogger suggests it does 56.4 on the trip computer🤔
20MY 1.5dci 58mpg average from new with best if 65 mpg touring Norway all tank to tank.
So should China invade Taiwan will parts still be available for the MZ if sanctions are applied.
No.
Owners are having trouble getting parts now according to research I've done. If China go to war, might as well scrap your commy car. Game over.
Al parts for dusters are always on backorder
Cheap hybrids sound like a money pit once out of warranty. Not for me
7:28 You are correct, because china is LHD market & this car didn't get the optimization for RHD market, that's why its tilted towards front passenger side!
I've 3 questions please. First .....there is a very fragile looking cable running forward from the battery under the boot floor.....what is that for? Looks a bit amateurish last minute thought. Second ...... another site suggested there wasn't any corrosion underseal protection underneath......is that correct? And third........is why do these manufacturers think we don't need a spare wheel? Had to wait hours for recovery once because car at the time only had a useless tyre repair/inflation kit. All not glamorous questions but what I'd suggest are 'real world' concerns.
Dacia should offer the option to buy a soft armrest instead of the plastic one for a few hundred euros. It can be seen that the plastic piece is attached, so it can be changed. And this should be the strategy even for dashboard or other things, if costumers want lux they should have the option to pay extra for it.
At least in some markets, there is a material-covered arm rest in the Extreme trim, but it's pretty thin and not very good. Since that plastic is detachable, if I were to buy that car, I would pad that part myself with a better material.
The ecological footprint is not the same as the car from EU.
Yet another review in this class where the use of plastics is highlighted for criticism, it's maddening. What bit of 'cheap functional SUV' do you not understand? If you want superfluous luxury, pay £10k more for something else, simple.
I'll take the Duster
Didn't I just watch this?
Bigster is more comparible. Duster is a class smaller.
The point is that both are classed as small/medium SUVs. The the Bigster and the HS are in the next size bracket. Although I agree to a certain extent, I own a Duster and I test drove the ZS which seemed a bit bigger.
MG is so bland, hence the poor residual, ive seen one year old at half RRP! Dacia definately looks very right, unlike alot of new designs with big sieve like front grills and abstract shaped bodies! Im defo going for the hybrid duster!
Funny they said the same thing about the Duster when I bought mine in 2017.
All Chinese cars are worth a couple of quid after a few years. EV's even worse.
The heater not getting up to the temp requested is an old trick some ev's used to make them look better on test. A few degrees can make a noticable difference on a small battery ev - or a hybrid who's battery can be used for longer periods if there is less demand.
Depending what the loop was that could have made most of the mpg difference alone.
Best to take a thermometer with you next time and set them so they are actually equal. The same used to be true for speed with them over reading as closely to the 10% limit as they could get away with.
When companies need to cheat for reviews it does flag the obvious question of why...
The dacia at the price range and pure plastic is unacceptable
The "faux leather" is also plastic.
Interior hard plastic looks coming from old plastic dusters. The duster belongs in the bin, slower, cramped, inefficient and rubbish quality
sounds like you are in favour of your bells and whistles if thats what you want then the Duster is not for you so maybe your more the creature comforts person there is nothing wrong with the Duster this will sell like hot cakes ..😀
@@stevecapper9321no one buys hot cakes anymore
@@angrymuffinsb 😂😂
Wouldn't the hs be the more apt comparison