Thank you. You helped decide. I have a dual sport 3 and I’ve taken it on the trails in Kansas. (I do 50 mile rides on my dual sport on the road but I got a taste for the trail.)
Thanks. For a moment I thought I had chosen the wrong bike - Marlin 5. I like both of them but my Marlin 5 is the one for me as I only ride on city streets and hard bike trails. I’m also amazed at how close the two bikes are in weight!!!! - within 3 to 4 pounds in favor of the FX.
Thanks for your video! I really can't choose yet... With my cheap 26" mtb (Speed Skarabel) i used to do 100km gravel trips, short travels (5-6 days, full loaded rear rack), but also have fun in the forest and jump over urban obstacles. The DS would seem the best choice, still i'm afraid it is too "delicate" when it comes to little jumps or full loads
Sounds like you should get the DS. The only time you should be looking at a Marlin is when you're strictly off-road. The DS is overall a way better commuter bike and can handle a decent cottage trail. The Marlin is much slower it's like having a Jeep as a daily instead of an SUV.
What about the new Dual Sport 3 Gen 5? I will mainly do light trails and road driving.... debating between a 2022 Trek Marlin 5 or waiting for the Dual Sport 3 Gen 5 with the Carbon Fork instead of the suspension fork.
@Chris Clark i found used but in excellent condition Marlin 5 2022 for $549 vs waiting for the DS3 gen 2 and paying 1,100$ with taxes. But my only concern is the Marlin 5 maybe not being a good bike to get a workout in on the road... I mean is the speed difference between these 2 bikes that much?
I just took my 2022 Dual Sport 2 on a 3 mile “light” mountain bike trail today. Was a bit too much for the bike. Trail was damp and muddy at some points and with the stock tires it had poor traction. Skidded around any tight turns. Very difficult going up any significant incline and was spinning and slipping over roots. Took two tumbles off the bike. Bike fared fine; no damage at all. Chain derailed twice though. I think this bike’s sweet spot is certainly casual road, paved or gravel trails or dry packed dirt with minimal bumps or other gnarly stuff. May fare better on trails with 2.1 tires with more knobby tread to them.
Maybe the dual sport 2 have 2 plates at front causing the chain to derail maybe the DS 3 will not what do think friend? Im torn between the two..maybe ill ride more on paved road and in the city..
Hey y'all... The 2022 Dual Sports can fit up to a 29x2.1 MTB tire. 700c and 29" are the same diameter rim. So you could have a DS with mountain bike tires or a Marlin with slicker narrower tires. I think the frame material/geometry and component combos are where the decision-making might better be focused (unless you're going for more serious trail riding, where you'd really want the Marlin.) Just my 2 cents 🙂
You mention these are both entry level. What's the next step up for the dual sport? It seems more obvious with the marlin, procaliber or other similar.
Really good video. Thank you. On the gearing for the marlin (7), riding around the park, on the grass, paths and casual weekend rides, do the gears suit well? I’m looking to keep this bike for a while and have the option of going off road but not in the outback. I’m U.K. based and proper off-road won’t be an option but I want last-ability from a hood bike. Will I struggle with the gears as there aren’t many? Thanks in advance
Hey Chris, Nice comparison! If I would get a Marlin with the Dual Sport tires, do you think I would get the same on-road performance as with the Dual Sport? I mostly commute on-road, but then I could also get beefier tires to go off-roading in the future. Thanks!
Marlins are a Swiss army knife for sure. If you strictly drive on pavement, get a dual or disc. If you do ANYTHING outside of street rides...get a Marlin.
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Thank you. You helped decide. I have a dual sport 3 and I’ve taken it on the trails in Kansas. (I do 50 mile rides on my dual sport on the road but I got a taste for the trail.)
Awesome, they are a much more capable then we give them credit
Thanks. For a moment I thought I had chosen the wrong bike - Marlin 5. I like both of them but my Marlin 5 is the one for me as I only ride on city streets and hard bike trails. I’m also amazed at how close the two bikes are in weight!!!! - within 3 to 4 pounds in favor of the FX.
Thanks Reggie! You'll just be able to go so many places with your bike
Thanks for your video!
I really can't choose yet...
With my cheap 26" mtb (Speed Skarabel) i used to do 100km gravel trips, short travels (5-6 days, full loaded rear rack), but also have fun in the forest and jump over urban obstacles. The DS would seem the best choice, still i'm afraid it is too "delicate" when it comes to little jumps or full loads
I'd do the Marlin hands down
Sounds like you should get the DS. The only time you should be looking at a Marlin is when you're strictly off-road.
The DS is overall a way better commuter bike and can handle a decent cottage trail. The Marlin is much slower it's like having a Jeep as a daily instead of an SUV.
@@Mike-cz2yw I got the DS3 but sold it :/ the bike is actually perfect, but 63mm fork was definitely too short for me
What about the new Dual Sport 3 Gen 5? I will mainly do light trails and road driving.... debating between a 2022 Trek Marlin 5 or waiting for the Dual Sport 3 Gen 5 with the Carbon Fork instead of the suspension fork.
Light trails of take the Marlin, check out my new video I just posted about dual sport
@Chris Clark i found used but in excellent condition Marlin 5 2022 for $549 vs waiting for the DS3 gen 2 and paying 1,100$ with taxes. But my only concern is the Marlin 5 maybe not being a good bike to get a workout in on the road... I mean is the speed difference between these 2 bikes that much?
I just took my 2022 Dual Sport 2 on a 3 mile “light” mountain bike trail today. Was a bit too much for the bike. Trail was damp and muddy at some points and with the stock tires it had poor traction. Skidded around any tight turns. Very difficult going up any significant incline and was spinning and slipping over roots. Took two tumbles off the bike. Bike fared fine; no damage at all. Chain derailed twice though. I think this bike’s sweet spot is certainly casual road, paved or gravel trails or dry packed dirt with minimal bumps or other gnarly stuff. May fare better on trails with 2.1 tires with more knobby tread to them.
Maybe the dual sport 2 have 2 plates at front causing the chain to derail maybe the DS 3 will not what do think friend? Im torn between the two..maybe ill ride more on paved road and in the city..
Hello. Do u think putting 100m fork on ds is beneficial and whether its frame can handle the beating as much as Marlins
100mm fork would work no problem, frame I would assume is mildly not as stiff but unless your jumping big i don't think i'd be concerned!
Can I change stock DS 2 rear Dearilleur with Shimano Deore M5120? I kinda like the clutch function on deore. I'm floating between DS2 and Merlin 6.
Should be able to, I can't see any issues
@@goodluckchrisclark thanks mate. I’ll consider that. Or else i’ll go with marlin 6 with extra set of rim with hybrid tyres
Hey y'all... The 2022 Dual Sports can fit up to a 29x2.1 MTB tire. 700c and 29" are the same diameter rim. So you could have a DS with mountain bike tires or a Marlin with slicker narrower tires. I think the frame material/geometry and component combos are where the decision-making might better be focused (unless you're going for more serious trail riding, where you'd really want the Marlin.) Just my 2 cents 🙂
That is a good point, I always remember going smaller but wider would add alot of comfort and traction
That is the one thing I had on the Marlin that I'd like to have on the Dual Sport (fatter tires). The 29 series tires would help.
I was bit confused, U decided for me , thanks. It's gonna be Marlin 5 gen 2 for me !!
Glad I could help!
You mention these are both entry level. What's the next step up for the dual sport? It seems more obvious with the marlin, procaliber or other similar.
The FX line is the dual sport upgrade
are you able to change the tire of marlin to hybrid tire?
Yep the rims fit a GR1 no prob
Where is your bike shop located and how can I get ahold of you for buying one
A&L Cycle, Brandon Manitoba. We are taking preorders but can't ship bikes
Perfect video for my needs. Got the marlin 6 and throwing some GR1 tires on for better pavement rides.
Nice we just did that with a Marlin 7! Rolls so much faster
Really good video. Thank you.
On the gearing for the marlin (7), riding around the park, on the grass, paths and casual weekend rides, do the gears suit well?
I’m looking to keep this bike for a while and have the option of going off road but not in the outback. I’m U.K. based and proper off-road won’t be an option but I want last-ability from a hood bike. Will I struggle with the gears as there aren’t many?
Thanks in advance
Hi, can you review the trek verve 3? Thank you
Thanks great comparison of the two types of bikes, I already have a Trek DS 8.6 would the Roscoe 6 be a good second bike for single track rides
Heck yes!
That roscoe is sexy
Do review on new gens of Marlin and Dual Sports
Does trek dual sport 1 have a cassette or a freewheel ?
cassette
Thanks Chris! I find your videos down to earth and informative.
Thanks Brett
Hey Chris,
Nice comparison! If I would get a Marlin with the Dual Sport tires, do you think I would get the same on-road performance as with the Dual Sport? I mostly commute on-road, but then I could also get beefier tires to go off-roading in the future. Thanks!
Yeah pretty much
Enjoyed the video
Thanks again!!
That last one was a gravel bike..
Thank you. This helped me decide. I think the Marlin 5 is for me but I’ll go for the DS2 if it’s all my LBS has in stock in my size.
Crazy times, resell values are high, you can always order a Marlin and sell the DS later on
Marlins are a Swiss army knife for sure. If you strictly drive on pavement, get a dual or disc. If you do ANYTHING outside of street rides...get a Marlin.
Yes sir totally agree
What happened, you’re losing your accent.
haha it comes and goes
@@goodluckchrisclark now a question if I may. I’ll get to the point. I’m old and obese, what bike would you recommend for this scenario? Cheers.
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I'll look into changing that, not sure how yet