Uncovering the Surprising Features of the 2023 Trek Dual Sport Gen 5!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @HatmanXIIX
    @HatmanXIIX 3 месяца назад +8

    I love this bike, I just bought mine about 2 hours ago. I couldn't fit it in my car so I had a friend drive my car home and I rode it 18 miles back home. I went through urban, off-road, gravel, bad roads, smooth roads, uphill, downhill, in the 95⁰ heat. It was a great ride. Best bike I've ever owned

  • @midnightrambler4004
    @midnightrambler4004 5 месяцев назад +3

    I bought this exact bike a month ago. Added a couple of things including clipless pedals and a 4 lb Seatylock. I ride it in hilly Charlottesville VA with no problems and I'm 67. Love it. I don't care about the weight, the way I look at I'm getting a better workout

  • @lerico536
    @lerico536 Год назад +23

    The Dual Sport 3 Gen 5 *is* a mountain bike. At least for me it is. I ride it just like I rode my Trek Singletrack 980 steel frame mountain bike back in the early 1990s. I take my DS3 on some gnarly single-track trails in the hills around Osaka and it does just fine.

    • @RH-nk7eo
      @RH-nk7eo 10 месяцев назад +3

      After testing one I have to agree.

    • @Subfrequenz
      @Subfrequenz 7 месяцев назад +1

      What tyres did you fit on it? Tempted by one of these but want some tyres to run at low enough pressures for off road. Thanks

    • @lerico536
      @lerico536 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Subfrequenz I use the stock tires - I inflate them to 55 psi for riding on roads and drop them to 30 psi for dirt trails

    • @Subfrequenz
      @Subfrequenz 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@lerico536 thanks. Got a Kona Mahuna in the end. But I loved the handling of this trek. If I see one 2nd hand in the future might have to get one anyway!

  • @jmydy
    @jmydy 4 месяца назад +3

    Dual sport is a great looking bike, especially versions with no front derailleur.

  • @marky59
    @marky59 Год назад +4

    Good Vid - I have done a bit of changes to mine, stem,handlebars, front forks, brakes, pedals and bottle cages. I love the geometry of this bike it feels so comfortable to me, I can actually do 15/20 miles without padded shorts, just normal shorts. for what I do this bike is ideal for me.

  • @kottelkannim4919
    @kottelkannim4919 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you. Judging by my trek fx 1, there is no need for disc specific rack when the brake caliper is attached to the chain stay.

    • @tmayberry7559
      @tmayberry7559 4 месяца назад

      And low maintenance on rim brakes along with on the fly adjustment 😊

  • @iecrime
    @iecrime Год назад +14

    Nice looking bike. I think everyone should own a "do it all" hybrid/commuter/fitness etc. kind of bike, even "serious" riders.

  • @yo_marc
    @yo_marc Месяц назад

    I want one of these pretty bad. I’ve got a Roscoe that I’ve been taking around town a lot as lunchtime-exercise. I managed to pick up a ‘need for speed’. I’ve got a road bike, but our roads are terrible and I’m a mtb’er at heart. This bike fits the bill.

  • @mjcalais
    @mjcalais Год назад +28

    To me, the Gen 5 dual sport 3 is the one bike that makes sense in the DS lineup with its 1x drivechain, carbon fork, hydraulic brakes, and lower weight. On the low end, I'm not sure how the dual sport 1 competes when you can get a Sirrus x 2.0 with hydraulic brakes, weighs 4-5 pounds less, and costs $130 less right now.

    • @marlonm396
      @marlonm396 Год назад +2

      @mjcalais, I ended up getting the dual sport 3 gen 5. I’m still getting used to the gears, but the ride is much nicer

    • @rickiehoxton
      @rickiehoxton Год назад +1

      @@marlonm396do you recommend the gen 3 without the front derailleur ⚙️? Or do you think the gen 2 with one is better especially for riding in the city (which I’m planning). Thx

    • @marlonm396
      @marlonm396 Год назад +4

      @@rickiehoxton, let me try to answer your question best i can after having the DS 3 Gen 5 for a month already. I rode the DS 4 Gen 4 and all three (3) in the Gen 5 line up. The Gen 5 was more responsive, and it had a more balanced weight to it. In other words, it did not tip over the front as the Gen 4 with the suspension. For city driving i would definitely choose Gen 5, but do not pick their entry level. I think the middle one in the G5 line up is the sweet spot with the better quality to cost ratio. However, if you shop around various shops, you might end up getting a good deal on the DS 3 Gen 5 as I did. Conversely, and you might know this, but i would also look at the FX model if city driving is your main requirement. Good luck and let me know what you choose. Cheers!

    • @harimau298
      @harimau298 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rickiehoxton
      Please change front gear into single gear.

  • @mblegend3056
    @mblegend3056 Год назад +5

    The wider 650b x 50c will be a good suspension 👌

  • @sharky442
    @sharky442 Год назад +1

    That's a REALLY BEAUTIFUL bike, It almost looks like my 2020 Trek FX3 with wider tires.

  • @chrisp9859
    @chrisp9859 3 месяца назад

    I took the level 3 version of this on some proper MTB trails and it was really fun , though a bit scary.

  • @chuckwalla2967
    @chuckwalla2967 11 месяцев назад +2

    No fat tire can replace the suspension. And this steel fork is not even that much lighter than the suspension fork.

  • @tjj5337
    @tjj5337 Год назад +2

    I have FX 3 and it’s much faster than my Brompton. I love it

  • @MP19861
    @MP19861 Год назад

    I do some trails and a mix of street/subdivision. Looking at a Roscoe 8? Am I crazy?

  • @marcsaint-pierre8775
    @marcsaint-pierre8775 Год назад +1

    Hi James, great review as always. Will this fit 700c wheels (even though it is specced with 650)? And can you run a internal dropper post?

  • @weedfaya959
    @weedfaya959 Год назад

    Superbe velo , mais quelle taille de cadre a prendre pour 1.80m avec un entre jambe de 83 cm ?

  • @Mazelcom
    @Mazelcom Год назад +6

    I own a gen 4 dual sport 2 ... I love it and do use it more for fitness 18 miles 4 times a week . I LOVE the front shock for going over road debris. .. did they do away with the dual trap hook up for wahoo computer?

    • @harimau298
      @harimau298 Год назад

      How much did you buy it for ?

    • @Mazelcom
      @Mazelcom Год назад +1

      @@harimau298 If I remember correctly $750.00

    • @leviaguonie1383
      @leviaguonie1383 10 месяцев назад

      Can the handle bar b raised a bit more?

  • @pundlikneeraj
    @pundlikneeraj 8 месяцев назад

    Hi James, I just brought a DS3 Gen 5 with Shimano Cues. i graduated from Polygon Cascase 2 (MTB) to this. I wanted something very fast and also one with quick gearing. Just got the bike yesterday so will ride soon and let you know the feedback.

    • @Unicus1
      @Unicus1 6 месяцев назад +1

      How is it?=)

    • @pundlikneeraj
      @pundlikneeraj 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Unicus1 its superb. Huge change from my Polygon. Gearing system is very smooth and overall I am completely satisfied. If you are planning to buy fo ahead.

    • @Unicus1
      @Unicus1 6 месяцев назад

      @@pundlikneeraj thanks. I'm now deciding between ds3 and fx3. Both seem great
      🙏

  • @harimau298
    @harimau298 Год назад +2

    How much is this bike ?
    I think it would better if the front gear was Fixed in First gear.

  • @timurpapba520
    @timurpapba520 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yes absolute beauty of a bike 🫣

  • @webaggregat
    @webaggregat Год назад

    Enjoying your vids always and Many Thnx for your inputs.
    I am not a pro but a ciclist and now I am realy wanna figure out why the hell this thing is heavier than 11 kg.

  • @harrygrimley4352
    @harrygrimley4352 Год назад +1

    Nice. I think it's the same colors ad my marlin 6. I like. Reviewing a few treks of late. Changing your opinion? Thank you for sharing this with us.

  • @Robboa1
    @Robboa1 5 месяцев назад

    A small front gear at about 24 would make the bike far more versatile.

  • @ras864
    @ras864 4 месяца назад

    Wow! I’m riding a Marlin 8 Gen 2 w/ 29” wheels and I think it’s lighter than the Dual Sport. Geez!

  • @StanEby1
    @StanEby1 Год назад +1

    Very well done review. Personally, I prefer a 3x8 setup. BTW Box Components is coming out with their Gen 2 Prime in September. All the best.

    • @richardwolf6269
      @richardwolf6269 Год назад +2

      I have a one by Box group. It sucks!
      Difficult to get rear wheel in and out. Stiff shifting. Big gaps in gearing (9 speed)
      Shimano from here on out!

  • @marlonm396
    @marlonm396 Год назад

    @jamesthebikeguy, I've seen both of your review s between the DS 1 Gen 5 and Giant's Roam 3. Both have the same price, so which one would you get?

    • @harimau298
      @harimau298 9 месяцев назад

      DS1 Gen5 !!!
      This is excellent & safety.

  • @poker_18rs92
    @poker_18rs92 Год назад +2

    I love it!
    James, which do you think would be a better commuter bike on pavement, a DS1 or FX1?

    • @poker_18rs92
      @poker_18rs92 Год назад +1

      @@GNMi79 Thanks! I’ve learned so much over the last year…. I’m currently commuting on a Marlin 6 & it’s just slow & id really like to have a better fitness/commuter bike for pavement only.

  • @photoholohan
    @photoholohan Год назад

    Another great video James 😊 👍🏻
    Would you personally go for one of these new Dual Sports??
    And if so, which particular model?

  • @reinholdachleitner2069
    @reinholdachleitner2069 Год назад +2

    Very nice Trek DS,just a pity about the 25mm dia handlebar and stem but it's absolutely a bombproof frame and fork with super internal cable routing.

  • @demri123
    @demri123 5 месяцев назад

    Get the DS3. worth it to have shimano dyraulic brakes and a carbon fork

  • @guchypoo
    @guchypoo Год назад

    What's the fitting on the location for old school kick stands... It looks like a threaded fitting?

  • @marlonm396
    @marlonm396 Год назад +1

    Sir, thank you for the video. Today I rode the DS 2, Gen 4 and the DS 1, Gen 5. I checked out the specs of these two bikes and the DS 1, Gen 5 is a pound heavier than the DS 2, Gen 4. I wasn't expecting that; however, I noticed differences in ride quality. In my humble opinion, the Gen 5 was a total redesign to previous version so the ride experience was totally new/different. I am torn at which one to buy, but I am trending to getting the new one due to changes Trek made in such redesign. Thoughts? Thank you!

  • @dakisgravvanis8016
    @dakisgravvanis8016 Год назад

    Excellent review man, how much it costs?

    • @ApeJayy
      @ApeJayy 8 месяцев назад +1

      Around 750

  • @thebluebell89
    @thebluebell89 Год назад +1

    This video would have been amazing for me when i forst started riding, everything is so well explained.
    I like the new DS set-ups. For me its gotta be hydro brakes though.

  • @garyz0611
    @garyz0611 7 месяцев назад

    Unless I missed it what were the things that were a little bit controversial?

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  7 месяцев назад +1

      No front shock, some love it some hate it.

    • @demri123
      @demri123 5 месяцев назад

      No front suspension.
      But most dont need it anyway

  • @stevenhernandez2108
    @stevenhernandez2108 Год назад

    It weighs as much as my marlin 6, you would think with the alpha gold it would be lighter than that

    • @PrivateEyeYiYi
      @PrivateEyeYiYi Год назад

      Weight could be due to the wheels and tires it uses

  • @WheelcraftBicycles
    @WheelcraftBicycles Год назад +2

    This bike leads me to belive that the next gen FX and Verve will be all internal too. This is bad news for bike mechanics everywhere.

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад +2

      Don’t you mean good news?! Most bike mechanics charge by the hour / time it takes then to complete a job. More complicated and fiddly means more time spent repairing, which means more money for them.

  • @Sangram-IND
    @Sangram-IND Год назад

    ❤❤❤❤ thankyou so much bro

  • @KwokamoleVlogs
    @KwokamoleVlogs Год назад +1

    I still like the ruggedness the gen 4 can possibly offer. Not a fan of the headset routing for the cables whatsoever as I think it looks a bit uglier. Still gonna save up for the Gen 4 Dual Sport 2.

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад +3

      You think a neater, less exposed internal cable routing is uglier than having all the cables exposed and wrapping all around the head tube? Most people think the opposite.

    • @TheKos2Kos
      @TheKos2Kos Год назад +1

      The gen 4 suspension is below average at best to me. Much rather have the maintenence free rigid fork

  • @jibinbabub2080
    @jibinbabub2080 Год назад +1

    Can we upgrate it to carbon fork later

    • @demri123
      @demri123 5 месяцев назад +1

      Get ds3, it has one

  • @NelsonWillis-kt8ck
    @NelsonWillis-kt8ck Год назад

    This bike is an affordable easy to use fully loaded bike

  • @lambertj.2892
    @lambertj.2892 Год назад

    Do you work for Trek, James?

  • @lululirac
    @lululirac Год назад

    Fx 2 or DS2 Gen5 for a first bike? :) I want to just ride for fun at parks and bike trail and bike paths.
    The DS2 G5 doesn't have a quick release wheel right?

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад

      Ds2 Gen 5. More comfortable ride all round. The rear wheel is quick release. The front isn’t.

    • @mb9996
      @mb9996 Год назад

      Should work great for what you want to do. The fx might be a little quicker on pavement, but if your intent is to cruise around or use it for exercise then it doesn't really matter. The nice thing about the duel sport is you have those wider 650 tires, you can also get a 700 wheel set if you want a more road specific wheel set and then swap out if you want to go on gravel roads. Which you can't do that on the fx line .

    • @mb9996
      @mb9996 Год назад +1

      The dual sport is also more upright seating position, which you can get inner or outter bar extensions to ride more aggressive and then have your normal handles for a upright position.

  • @Chef-Chad
    @Chef-Chad Год назад +2

    It just came to me what is crappy about this bicycle. The 650B wheelset, which is a step backwards.

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад +1

      Disagree. 650b will be a lot more nimble on the trails. Also will provide more cushioning due to higher tyre volume and more grip due to larger contact patch with the road surface. It also means they can get rid of that heavy front suspension fork, which means bike Is lighter also, and also there is also less to go wrong. It’s a well thought out progression and definite improvement in my book.

    • @Chef-Chad
      @Chef-Chad Год назад +1

      @@paddyotoole2058 I think you read the brochure and just typed it in here bro.

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад +4

      @@Chef-Chad yes, that and I actually own this bike (4 months), and also a 650b gravel bike (as well as a hardtail mountain bike with 29er wheels and 4 road bikes with 700c wheels). With all that and 40 years plus experience of riding bicycles on all sorts of terrain under my belt I think I’m more than qualified to make the assessment 🙂.

    • @Chef-Chad
      @Chef-Chad Год назад

      @@paddyotoole2058 I own a Trek Daul Sport 3 5th Generation, the red or crimson one. I have ridden it over 500 miles now. So yes, I know, had to change the seat post, seat, and stem to get the odd geometry to fit right.

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 6 месяцев назад

    I like the gen 4 better

  • @1701_FyldeFlyer
    @1701_FyldeFlyer Год назад +2

    Nah, bigger wheels and no front shocker on the entry version is a no, no for me. I dont like having my teeth shaken out by bumps and holes in the road so a from shocker is essential. These big tyres just wont give the same shock absorbency for me.

  • @jasonw3287
    @jasonw3287 Год назад +24

    That weight of 31 pounds is more than mountain bikes with both a front and a rear suspension. The weights of these low end bikes are totally unacceptable and I would always recommend buying a used bike instead of this.

    • @robo1989
      @robo1989 Год назад +5

      This is 11.88 kgs brother

    • @jasonw3287
      @jasonw3287 Год назад +3

      @@robo1989 he weighs it at 31 pounds which james does at the end of every video with tires and peddles. That’s an absolute crap ton. My mountain bike loaded is less than that.

    • @robo1989
      @robo1989 Год назад

      @@jasonw3287 okay I got it, how is trek roscoe 8 2023 for daily commute in city?

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 Год назад +3

      Totally agree. My girlfriend’s stock Cannondale Flash 3 mountain bike, stock, weighs just over 26 pounds. It has stock 26” wheels on it right now, and will run 650b. 2x10 Deore XT and XT brakes, the bike in awesome shape cost $300. So, spending less for a more versatile (in my mind) bike. The only place where this Dual Sport Gen 5 has more options are all the connection points for racks, bike packing, etc.
      It appears Trek may have missed the mark on this one.

    • @webaggregat
      @webaggregat Год назад

      I would not wonder if the parts around the frame expect the nice fork and handlebar woulds safe at least 1 kg from 13,5 kg. On alloy-wheels.

  • @nyreppin1
    @nyreppin1 Год назад

    Trek should get rid of the other trims. On the DS1 you get better gearing, a cheap but solid fork and brakes that are good enough for the riding it'll be used for. People should save their money and force trek to consolidate the color choices to just the DS1

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад

      Huh? If folks want a higher spec and they are prepared to pay for it then what’s the problem? You want to limit consumer choice to just one model? Sounds like silliness.

  • @joelrussell1662
    @joelrussell1662 8 месяцев назад

    Trek backed lance to the point of calling the truth talkers crazy & set out to ruin them. 🤮 Also the fact that they are talked up over priced bikes with entry level components compared to price. Never ever!!!

  • @Customercf
    @Customercf Год назад

    The fork looks like its put on backwards. Weird looking bike.

  • @akgustavson4026
    @akgustavson4026 Год назад

    Very stupid move from Trek to eliminate the suspensions from Gen 4 ! With all the variants in Dual Sport, they can just keep the suspension option to one of them.

  • @nikhil23911
    @nikhil23911 Год назад +1

    bike looks ugly though

    • @paddyotoole2058
      @paddyotoole2058 Год назад +3

      Disagree. I think it looks superb. Clean modern lines and a very tidy front end with the integrated cable routing through the headset. Paint jobs look stunning in person too. They are selling well here in the U.K.

    • @lambertj.2892
      @lambertj.2892 Год назад +1

      I agree. It's ugly.

    • @miffachan123
      @miffachan123 Год назад +1

      its ugly. my kona dew plus 2013 looks better and i only got it for $300 used.

  • @the.communist
    @the.communist Год назад

    No.

  • @miffachan123
    @miffachan123 Год назад

    looks slow