I'm an owner of a '22 NX350h fully loaded Executive model here in Canada. I have just over 47,000 kms or 30,000 miles. Yes the brakes are not very linear in their application in the first month or so of driving but after that they're great! The issue at hand here is that the car utilizes regen braking as much as possible obviously, but when the car is stopping all the way down to a complete stop the system finishes the last bit with the standard brakes run through hydraulics just as a regular ICE setup, as regen braking can't function all the way down to 0 mph. The brake pads 'grab' shall will say, or stopping force changes as the pads seat themselves as they wear into rotors. After this process is over the transition is seamless. My wife would yell at me for braking too hard when we first got it. I told her 'it's not me!' After a few tank fulls of gas or a couple thousand miles the brakes were fine. Whenever I get a loaner car when I'm in for service and it only has a few hundred miles on it I can feel the difference.
Loving my Crown Signia XLE, and I'm not mad that it's a station wagon! Also, haven't found it sounding drone-y when climbing up hills, cuts thru bumps and large puddles up like a hot knife on butter- I should add I live in the PNW where we get LOTS of adverse weather conditions, even tho it's only Fall. Super smooth, comfy, quiet and def a looker- actually happy to answer questions people have about it. Thanks for this comparison, Kirk! Always appreciate your insights!
@@nolancin For performance, probably not, but if you want the pano roof and other more luxury items, def worth checking it out. For an XLE, there are so many luxury features that Kirk mentioned that it's way more decked out than other XLE Toyotas I've owned. Either way, they are both amazing investments. Happy Shopping!
Can you speak to the headlights? How is the width of the low beam pattern? Do you feel it needs cornering lights? Lately, I’ve found Toyota’s low bean headlight patterns to be very lacking. That QoL feature makes me want to go to Lexus but I don’t want that price increase.
I recently bought a Crown Signia XLT; my wife drives the NX 350h (2025). The Lexus feels way more luxurious but she got the upgraded (not the premium) version--with a huge screen. The 2nd row is bigger and more comfortable in the Signia. There is more storage in the Signia. The price difference is around $9,000 (plus).
Can I ask you a question please?? Heck, I'm old and have been knees. I drive SUV's because I can sit up higher and get in and out of the car easily. But in a sedan, I can get in, but getting OUT of it can be a challenge of pulling myself up & out (or sometime I can "roll" out of the door and then stand up. Is the Crown Signia like driving a sedan? If it is, then that will kill it for my consideration. Thanks so much
@2269tah I think of the Signia as a raised Camry wagon, albeit more luxurious and more comfortable. Rides nicely. I am giving my current CX90 to my daughter; it is way higher (sort of like the high feeling). No problem in getting in and out; the Signia is raised, albeit just a bit. My wife's NX350H is definitely higher and more luxurious but it was almost $10,000 more expensive.
@@10tenman10 Thank you so much!. I know I have to go in person and try it out, but i was trying to narrow down my choices before showing my face at a dealership and then be bombarded with sales people.
Congrats! I got $2000 off mine- had the Costco program ready for a Camry purchase, the Crown was not part of the deal, but the dealer honored it anyway since I was one of the first to buy a Crown Signia XLE from them 💖Enjoy yours!
Oh you’re the GOAT for this, Kirk! This is exactly what I’ve been wanting to know. How does the Crown Signia compare to similar Lexus vehicles! Let’s go!!!
Crown has physical HVAC buttons and mechanical door handles, which makes it more reliable and ergonomical than the Lexus with electronic door handles and too many things baked into the touchscreen
Why do luxury automakers sell less for more and sell it as “luxury”? It makes luxury cars seem pointless to me nowadays… even Lexus, and they have the best build quality of any car brand imo. You can just get a nicely packaged normal car and call it a day.
Okay, so I have a 2025 NX350h premium with added features. I love it. But I’d also love the physical AC buttons and more cargo space. Crown had a waiting list so I was like NX it is! The Lexus door handles are a plus in the NX 350h, despite what a lot of commentators think. Both cars are fantastic! Edit: By the way, I’m also in Southwest Florida
Kirk, The immediacy of this direct comparison is priceless and I look forward to the mpg test. Please extend my gratitude to Germain Toyota for generously providing you with the base models that rarely appear in the press fleet. 🙌🙌Long may your Ace of Base® reviews continue. 😁 Finally, I can confirm that just like the Camry LE, the fabulous Crown Signia XLE is not sold in Canada. 🤬
I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago. The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it. The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price. The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia. But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me. 2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video. But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
Should’ve compared comparative trim levels! We love our ‘23 NXh, the NX will hold it value better though, too bad Signia doesn’t have 5th hybrid powertrain..
The crown has active noise cancellation in the Limited trim but no ANC on the XLE trim. Perhaps this is the difference as the Lexus NX has active noise cancellation.
Great comparo! Love the side by side format. I love wagons and thinking about swapping my Odyssey for a Signia or something now that kids are older and starting to drive.
I like wagons, but, wish the signia was the same length as the NX. In an urban environment, it makes a difference. Maybe a Camry wagon decked out like the Signia would be a good idea. But, for now, would go with the NX premium.
@@wafarris Just super curious. what year NX?, what year Venza? Is your NX a 350h? I drove both 2024's and saw no real difference besides Lexus requires prem fuel, has no spare, no stargaze roof option and cost $12-$14k more. NX350h was amazing. I just thought the Venza Limited was even more amazing and bought one....✌✌
@@atyt11 Oh, sorry. My Venza was a 2013. I didn´t think of the last Venza model when I wrote my reply. My NX is a 2024 350h. When I bought the NX, we test drove the 2024 Venza but my wife did not like it. I did like it a lot and probably would have bought it but it is primarily her car. We use the Lexus NX for trips.
I agree. Sometimes my HVAC is funky with my NX350h. One needs to let their car start up n wait so the controls work on the screen. It needs to boot up. Hopefully with updates it will boot faster.
While I can see the draw to the Lexus for some, I would be very happy with the luxury the Signia offers. However, I would be even happier if Toyota made an 'Estate' version of the Camry that could be had for around $35k (in LE trim) and could achieve around 50 mpg (that's not a pipe dream, some are achieving 60 in the sedan version). NOT another Venza, but a real wagon with a real useable cargo area like the Camry's of the 80's and 90's had. And available with or without AWD like every Camry is today.
I looked at both of these. My wife didn't like the station wagon look of the Crown Signia so that was out. We ended up getting a Venza Limited. These are all good vehicles that will be very reliable. Really comes down to personal preferences. To me the Lexus is better, but not really worth the extra cost.
If you don't already have a preference then the crown is the better vehicle overall in terms of design and also value for money but I would pick the overtrail NX every time. The overtrail NX has improved ground clearance, handling, and ride quality over the standard NX and it looks better than the crown if optioned correctly. Also, I actually PREFER the electric (SEA) NX door handles (i know i know crazy right?) and the overtrail specific interior. Plus there's no cornering fog lights, or premium MkLev audio, on the crown. Both must haves for me.
You’re not missing anything…. It looks nice on camera. I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago. The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it. The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price. The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia. But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me. 2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video. But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
@@americandude3825I highly doubt the rav 4 was quieter and better than the signia. Of course visibility isn’t great… it’s a car based wagon/SUV. That means lower seating position and higher windows- sit in instead of on.
@ the windows are smaller of course and the hood was hard to see over with the Signia. RAV4 XSE I test drove was just as quiet. Test drove each for around 30 minutes.
I know you say get the NX over the UX but the UX300h just calls to me. smaller, more fuel efficient and it fits my lifestyle and !garage!... Forget the CUV small SUV or cute-ute name. Call the UX what it is.. a 5 door hatchback plain and simple...
Crown Signia looks like the 2nd gen of the 1st gen Venza. The real 2nd Gen Venza was too much like the RX. Too nice for a Toyota, but not good enough for the Lexus crowd.
This is what I didn't want to see! This past spring, I was in the market for a new car (a replacement for my NX 200T) and debated whether to wait for the Crown or get the NX 350h. I really like the reviews of the Crown, but I decided to go for a Noir Green NX 350h luxury model. Happy with my NX, but I still like the Crown.
Would you please always post a NIGHT DRIVING comparison segment when you do these videos? No One ever shows what it looks like inside the cabin at night!!!!!
I test drove the Signia and the NX350h Luxury and bought the latter. While the Signia is a very nice vehicle, it feels and looks too "Toyotaish" especially, when you get into the driver's seat and see their big logo on the steering wheel. . . the same logo you find on the Prius and other lower priced models. The Lexus feels more luxurious and is definitely quieter on all levels in my opinion, especially under modest acceleration. The NX feels more luxurious overall. The Mark Levinson stereo is sincerely concert quality and remarkably better than the JBL stereo which sounds very entry level in comparison. While everyone agrees the dependability of Toyota/Lexus is sensational, it's pretty obvious the few thousand dollars more spent on the NX buys you better quality, more advanced features not available on the Signia, and the Lexus resale will be higher at trade-in time. Happy shopping!
The physical buttons of the Signia will be a benefit for most. Also, some of the NX models might be built in the US while all Crowns are made in Japan. I bet a Japan built Crown will be better than an American Lexus. Also, things like all Crowns getting vented seats instead of having to option it is nice.
I priced the NX on the Canada website and it came out to $67k with taxes and after the $5k rebate. That’s a lot of money there but cheaper than the Germans for sure.
Why do you think Lexus is higher quality? Both drivetrains are the same. I’ve owned two 2nd gen Venza and a 2025 NX350h. Build quality seems identical to me
I’ve seen a few crown signias on the road i belive all XLE and the wagon look is amazing however overall I absolutely hate the new hammerhead design language on this and the camry whereas the prius looks good with it. Also the Crown could benefit from amber turn signals like the NX has. Using the brake lights is a very inexpensive car thing to do. Bring the venza back already 😂
@ While some people may believe this, the simple fact is Many vehicles have low mounted turn signals. Including semis when you are driving another semi. However any good driver can keep enough distance to see the rear tires of the car in front of them at a stop, and a further distance when driving. Therefore you should always be able to see the entire vehicle and the venza having amber turn signals make it more noticeable whereas in the crown signia people may not notice you have your blinker on in traffic where everyone is braking off and on. I find it hard to notice red turn signals especially when they’re flashing while braking.
The Toyota Crown Signia looks more like a UX. Granted, it’s a bit longer. If you’re into that tanned palomino interior, you can get that in a Lexus. You can get a loaded Lexus UX 300h at a reasonable price point than a base model Signia, with less cheap plastic inside. Plus you get the white glove treatment for all service from the Lexus dealer than any Toyota dealer.
Our nearest Lexus dealer is 90 min away where the closest Toyota dealer is 40 min away. That alone might be a reason for us to get the Toyota instead of the Lexus despite the better service.
NX dashboard looks dated compared to the Signia. This is the problem when you start comparisons - as time goes by, things change. What it comes down to my situation, the Lexus is more likely to be stolen.
For ventilated front seats in NX you have to pay for premium option. Signia Xle, the base model, has heated and ventilated front seats and heated rear seats. Look like rear seats has more space in Signia as well.
NX has better paint, and overall more premium exterior and interior. The crown Signia is more up to date and the interior layout is more usable/intuitive, and more spacious.
we have 2025 NX350h. with that note, Crown looks more upscale on the outside. if the Signia came with tinted windows like a "real" CUV, it will be more appearing. for one thing, definitely a big departure from Venza it is replacing.
The Lexus RX is much closer to the size of the Crown Signia. The Crown Signia is mid size while the NX is compact. Not understanding why you compared these two!
This messed me up. I just test drove a NX350 this weekend and I was very impressed and I'm almost ready to buy. But this makes the Crown seem like a viable alternative. That said, seems like such a weird marketing choice by Toyota and I rarely see any Crown's on the road. The main issue is that I don't think too many people are going to spend that much on a Toyota, they will just upgrade to a Lexus.
It is not fair comparison. Lexus Luxury model nearly 10k more than base model. You need to compare with Sicknia limited if you go to dealer Sicknia limited priced more than Lexus base model… this is so sick
Great reviews of both cars and good comparison. Would you ever consider using a 'sound decibel app' on you phone to get a real sound reading on the cars you review?
I like interior of Signia. Outside both is nice. Both of them has no spare tire. Lithium batteries in NX probably the cause of better fuel economy. Signia has old style traction battery.
I own the 2025 Nx Premium and it drives very nice compared to the Toyota. I’ve owned the RX and ES and drove the Camry first. The Lexus is a step above anything Toyota. They are more refined, smoother ride, better feel. The NX has a Proactive Driver Assist which brakes for you and other things that make the brakes activate funky, other than that it’s a beautiful luxury car .
@ who are you to say anything about my financial situation. I happened to buy Lexus because they are good cars. I’m tooting the Lexus brand. Screw off.
Kirk, since you have the Crown Signia for a week can we please get a nighttime review? I wonder about the headlights. In particular I wonder about the wideness of the beam pattern since it has no cornering lights. I know Lexus can have it equipped on the triple beam headlight package. I feel that lately, Toyota’s headlight low beams have been a disappointment. Also curious if the single beam housing for the low and high beams in the Crown Signia is effective. I wonder if Toyota cheaped out on the design or simply ran out of physical space. Also, curious about interior lighting. I hope it’s blue. You broke my heart about the brakes on Crown Signia. I hope to test drive it myself one day but my local dealership has none and are extremely pushy on sales to the point of extreme annoyance.
The Signia is a very good car but not a Lexus, the Nx is magnificent regarding build quality and materials, fit and finish. According to the Carnut the Crown is a very good car as well.
Lexus NX is far from magnificent in terms of build quality. Even the ones made in Japan. It is sub par to previous generations (both N and RX). I drive one and drove previous generation. The interior material quality is simply not at the same level as before.
@@avdp9095 care to elaborate what exactly is nonsense? The old generation had better quality materials, no piano black, had brushed aluminium parts, passenger side dashboard in new NX is a disappointment in terms of quality (prone to even minor scratches and not easy to maintain). What else can I add..had the front hood locking hatch serviced twice as it was getting rust (after a year), one of speakers needs replacement and back AC vents seem to malfunction).
Screw the South East Toyota distributor. They add all kinds of addons charging customers way more than what the vehicle is worth. The only way to avoid these ripoff addons is to buy outside of the states southeast Toyota covers.
No ambient lighting and heads up is a miss. They also ought to add the more powerful engine like in the regular crown. Change that and you got yourself a car!
I'd just wait for Lexus to get their own version of the Crown Signia and buy that one. Might get a plug-in hybrid drivetrain in that one. Fingers crossed.
Crown Signia should have the RX's 17-gallon gas tank to maximize range, since these models are in the same size range... but Crown Signia just gets the typical 14.5 gallon Toyota tank.
Does anyone else feel like at the rate auto manufacturers are going with infotainment screen size we will all have big screen tv’s on the dash in 10 years? It’s as ridiculous as the pickup truck conundrum. Chevy, Ford and Dodge all racing to make a bigger and bigger and bigger truck year after year. Now you need a step ladder to grab something in the bed of the truck. This is why the maverick is so popular now.
I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago. The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it. The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price. The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia. But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me. 2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video. But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
@ yep. I know. The reason I say a Japanese built rav4 XSE is because they drive better, etx than the American and Canadian ones. Way better than my 2022 XSE from Canada.
Signia has all bells whistles techs, etc, but no f'n reclining rear seats? Does Toyota know how uncomfy it is on 8-10 hrs road trip without the ability to recline and sleep?
The NX's interior looks shockingly cheap for a luxury vehicle, but I'd still take it over the Crown Signia. The NX also looks better on the outside and has the Lexus nameplate. But the thing that seals the deal for me is the Lexus is better regarding NVH.
I've owned Camry's, Rav4's, an Avalon and a Highlander. The wife and I are empty nesters. We went and saw the Signia at the dealer. To us it looks like an Avalon wagon with giant rims. Not our thing. People like compact utes. My wife loves cute-utes, Americans don't seem to really like wagons/crossover(hip way to say wagon) . Did toyota make a mistake discontinuing the Venza...... again? Not sure. The Signia was $5k more... so we bought a 24 Venza Limited with a gorgeous Boulder interior. Not sure why 1990 F150 king ranch Tan, black, Lexus RED , black, black or black are the only new colors toyota thinks we all want inside our new cars.
I don’t know what he’s referring to, to be honest. I’ve owned two 2nd gen Venzas and a 2025 NX350h, both brake fine. The Lexus brakes for you when you’re getting to close to vehicles. It’s a bit sensitive, but I’m used to it. The car is doing more for me and I’ve gotten spoiled
One thing people never comment on is that Lexus costs way more money to service than Toyota. Regular 5k services are about $250. 30k mile service on my 2016 Lexus rx350 was about $1200. Just had my 60k service done and it was $2000. Told me when it went in that I have a timing case oil leak and gasket needs to be resealed. Price estimate for reseal is $8,000. At 67k miles are you kidding me? I’ll never buy another Lexus again. The new crown signia may be way to go. Lexus luxury with Toyota service pricing with toyota reliability. Like the styling of this crown. Only thing I’ll miss is my mark levinson sound system in my rx350. Heard the jbl premium sound systems on Toyota’s are just ehh. Certainly not as good as a Lexus ML sound system in a rx350. Anyone comment on the premium jbl sound system in this crown?
I can’t say I agree or understand why RUclipsrs (and I do like your channel a lot) compare a lexus to a Toyota. I know Lexus is made by Toyota but I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. I’ve had three 4Runners, a GX460 and now a LX570. Have friends and family with RAV4s, highlanders, RX, camrys, ES, etc. What I’m saying is I’ve owned or spent time in many Lexus and Toyotas. It’s not a close comparison. They are incredibly different. It’s not even close. I hate the LC250 vs GX550 comparison. I’ve ridden in both. It’s not even close. It comes off as nothing more than content filler. Again, I really enjoy ur channel though.
I think it’s useful to compare for viewers that are actually considering buying the products. Which is likely because a lot of people don’t want to venture outside Toyota/lexus due to reliability
When price is factor in it does matter. Your argument is which one is better, of course the Lexus is better, else it wouldn't exist. These types of video is to determine if you want to spend the extra dollars or settle for a Toyota and keep more money in the bank.
The video is apparent that the gap between Toyota and Lexus is shrinking, and if consumers are willing to rally additional dollars for the Lexus badge.
Crown Signia Limited includes digital rear view mirror.
Thanks Chris!
I'm an owner of a '22 NX350h fully loaded Executive model here in Canada. I have just over 47,000 kms or 30,000 miles. Yes the brakes are not very linear in their application in the first month or so of driving but after that they're great! The issue at hand here is that the car utilizes regen braking as much as possible obviously, but when the car is stopping all the way down to a complete stop the system finishes the last bit with the standard brakes run through hydraulics just as a regular ICE setup, as regen braking can't function all the way down to 0 mph. The brake pads 'grab' shall will say, or stopping force changes as the pads seat themselves as they wear into rotors. After this process is over the transition is seamless. My wife would yell at me for braking too hard when we first got it. I told her 'it's not me!' After a few tank fulls of gas or a couple thousand miles the brakes were fine.
Whenever I get a loaner car when I'm in for service and it only has a few hundred miles on it I can feel the difference.
Loving my Crown Signia XLE, and I'm not mad that it's a station wagon! Also, haven't found it sounding drone-y when climbing up hills, cuts thru bumps and large puddles up like a hot knife on butter- I should add I live in the PNW where we get LOTS of adverse weather conditions, even tho it's only Fall. Super smooth, comfy, quiet and def a looker- actually happy to answer questions people have about it. Thanks for this comparison, Kirk! Always appreciate your insights!
I'm undecided between the XLE and the Limited. Do you think the Limimited is worth the extra $$$?
@@nolancin For performance, probably not, but if you want the pano roof and other more luxury items, def worth checking it out. For an XLE, there are so many luxury features that Kirk mentioned that it's way more decked out than other XLE Toyotas I've owned. Either way, they are both amazing investments. Happy Shopping!
Can you speak to the headlights? How is the width of the low beam pattern? Do you feel it needs cornering lights? Lately, I’ve found Toyota’s low bean headlight patterns to be very lacking. That QoL feature makes me want to go to Lexus but I don’t want that price increase.
@DRBG444 I just wish it has regular sunroof on xle
I went for the Limited and love it. Headlights are very good. Only wish we could spec the smaller wheels bcuz the 21's are too much
I recently bought a Crown Signia XLT; my wife drives the NX 350h (2025). The Lexus feels way more luxurious but she got the upgraded (not the premium) version--with a huge screen. The 2nd row is bigger and more comfortable in the Signia. There is more storage in the Signia. The price difference is around $9,000 (plus).
Can I ask you a question please?? Heck, I'm old and have been knees. I drive SUV's because I can sit up higher and get in and out of the car easily. But in a sedan, I can get in, but getting OUT of it can be a challenge of pulling myself up & out (or sometime I can "roll" out of the door and then stand up. Is the Crown Signia like driving a sedan? If it is, then that will kill it for my consideration. Thanks so much
@2269tah I think of the Signia as a raised Camry wagon, albeit more luxurious and more comfortable. Rides nicely. I am giving my current CX90 to my daughter; it is way higher (sort of like the high feeling). No problem in getting in and out; the Signia is raised, albeit just a bit. My wife's NX350H is definitely higher and more luxurious but it was almost $10,000 more expensive.
@@10tenman10 Thank you so much!. I know I have to go in person and try it out, but i was trying to narrow down my choices before showing my face at a dealership and then be bombarded with sales people.
Lexus sits higher than Signia for sure
"The 2nd row is bigger and more comfortable in the Signia" because crown signia's wheelbase is the same length as the Lexus RX
Discounts are available on the Crown Signia I paid 41,880 which is a 4K discount.
Hell yes!
Congrats! I got $2000 off mine- had the Costco program ready for a Camry purchase, the Crown was not part of the deal, but the dealer honored it anyway since I was one of the first to buy a Crown Signia XLE from them 💖Enjoy yours!
are you sitting more down to the ground as ina sedan? would it be hard on getting out if you have bad knees?
@@2269tahI went from corolla to the signia because I was tired of climbing out .. very slight push up to exit the car
Oh you’re the GOAT for this, Kirk! This is exactly what I’ve been wanting to know. How does the Crown Signia compare to similar Lexus vehicles! Let’s go!!!
Crown has physical HVAC buttons and mechanical door handles, which makes it more reliable and ergonomical than the Lexus with electronic door handles and too many things baked into the touchscreen
Why do luxury automakers sell less for more and sell it as “luxury”?
It makes luxury cars seem pointless to me nowadays… even Lexus, and they have the best build quality of any car brand imo.
You can just get a nicely packaged normal car and call it a day.
Mindless comment when Lexus has good reliability
Lexus is more premium and modern. Toyota is for broke old folks.
Yeah but this is Toyota and Lexus. Besides, Lexus is the most reliable brand in the world
@ that’s because of models before the recent redesigns. The most widely available data is from the pre-redesigned vehicles
Hi Kirk. Thanks for the "Granny Cougar" tip about the Crown -- Definitely taking it to Bingo Night !
Okay, so I have a 2025 NX350h premium with added features. I love it. But I’d also love the physical AC buttons and more cargo space. Crown had a waiting list so I was like NX it is! The Lexus door handles are a plus in the NX 350h, despite what a lot of commentators think. Both cars are fantastic! Edit: By the way, I’m also in Southwest Florida
I have the 2025 nx, premium and it’s fantastic, I like the doors handles and the interior.
Kirk, The immediacy of this direct comparison is priceless and I look forward to the mpg test. Please extend my gratitude to Germain Toyota for generously providing you with the base models that rarely appear in the press fleet. 🙌🙌Long may your Ace of Base® reviews continue. 😁 Finally, I can confirm that just like the Camry LE, the fabulous Crown Signia XLE is not sold in Canada. 🤬
I got 44-45 mpg overall with 90% highway
I bet the Lexus NX has no Granny Cougar effect. That’s worth at least $2,500 in savings bonds right there.
I'm being waiting for this video forever THANK YOU so much 💗 !!!!
I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago.
The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it.
The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price.
The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia.
But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me.
2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video.
But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
Should’ve compared comparative trim levels! We love our ‘23 NXh, the NX will hold it value better though, too bad Signia doesn’t have 5th hybrid powertrain..
It's sheer coincidence I have these two at the same time. Beggers can't be choosers 😜
I like the Signia better, more leg room and more cargo room. And i like the front end of the Crown.
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I’m glad Toyota brought the crown back to the US. I love seeing them on the roads here
The crown has active noise cancellation in the Limited trim but no ANC on the XLE trim. Perhaps this is the difference as the Lexus NX has active noise cancellation.
The NX has acoustic (double pane) front window glass. Not sure about crown
@@TechJunky777so does the Crown. You know you have full luxury when the rear doors also have acoustic laminates glass. This is uncommon.
Kurt, the NX has run flat tires, thus, that’s why there is no spare tire!
Terrible
Great comparo! Love the side by side format. I love wagons and thinking about swapping my Odyssey for a Signia or something now that kids are older and starting to drive.
I like wagons, but, wish the signia was the same length as the NX. In an urban environment, it makes a difference. Maybe a Camry wagon decked out like the Signia would be a good idea. But, for now, would go with the NX premium.
The Signia used to be the same length as the NX, it was called a Venza.
It cost a lot less and had every Lexus feature....✌✌
@@atyt11 And the Venza was wider. I traded my Venza in on an NX last year. The Venza was a great car with only one problem -- visibility.
@@wafarris Just super curious. what year NX?, what year Venza? Is your NX a 350h?
I drove both 2024's and saw no real difference besides Lexus requires prem fuel, has no spare, no stargaze roof option and cost $12-$14k more. NX350h was amazing. I just thought the Venza Limited was even more amazing and bought one....✌✌
@@atyt11 Oh, sorry. My Venza was a 2013. I didn´t think of the last Venza model when I wrote my reply. My NX is a 2024 350h. When I bought the NX, we test drove the 2024 Venza but my wife did not like it. I did like it a lot and probably would have bought it but it is primarily her car. We use the Lexus NX for trips.
@@wafarris gotcha....👍👍 The 24 NX350h is sweeeet!
Lexus needs to bring back physical climate controls!
Then, it will be considered a "dated" interior. Especially majority of luxury vehicles in the segment are going that route.
I agree. Sometimes my HVAC is funky with my NX350h. One needs to let their car start up n wait so the controls work on the screen. It needs to boot up. Hopefully with updates it will boot faster.
No they don't
While I can see the draw to the Lexus for some, I would be very happy with the luxury the Signia offers. However, I would be even happier if Toyota made an 'Estate' version of the Camry that could be had for around $35k (in LE trim) and could achieve around 50 mpg (that's not a pipe dream, some are achieving 60 in the sedan version). NOT another Venza, but a real wagon with a real useable cargo area like the Camry's of the 80's and 90's had. And available with or without AWD like every Camry is today.
I wish we got the Crown Sport. That one i'd buy in a hot minute.
Thanks! Please post a night driving video of the Crown Signa!
The interior quibbles with the NX will probably improve next year.
Maybe. They just redesigned the Nx.
In 2022, the 2026 is 4th year of new model !
I looked at both of these. My wife didn't like the station wagon look of the Crown Signia so that was out. We ended up getting a Venza Limited. These are all good vehicles that will be very reliable. Really comes down to personal preferences. To me the Lexus is better, but not really worth the extra cost.
I love the wagon
If you don't already have a preference then the crown is the better vehicle overall in terms of design and also value for money but I would pick the overtrail NX every time. The overtrail NX has improved ground clearance, handling, and ride quality over the standard NX and it looks better than the crown if optioned correctly. Also, I actually PREFER the electric (SEA) NX door handles (i know i know crazy right?) and the overtrail specific interior. Plus there's no cornering fog lights, or premium MkLev audio, on the crown. Both must haves for me.
The difference between the Crown and NX when you’re closing the door is noticeable. The NX is more a thump than a bang in the Crown.
Is a shame that in Europe we don't have Crown and Crown Signia.
You’re not missing anything…. It looks nice on camera.
I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago.
The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it.
The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price.
The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia.
But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me.
2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video.
But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
@@americandude3825I highly doubt the rav 4 was quieter and better than the signia. Of course visibility isn’t great… it’s a car based wagon/SUV. That means lower seating position and higher windows- sit in instead of on.
@ the windows are smaller of course and the hood was hard to see over with the Signia.
RAV4 XSE I test drove was just as quiet. Test drove each for around 30 minutes.
I know you say get the NX over the UX but the UX300h just calls to me. smaller, more fuel efficient and it fits my lifestyle and !garage!... Forget the CUV small SUV or cute-ute name.
Call the UX what it is.. a 5 door hatchback plain and simple...
Might be more fun to drive than a NX 350h.
Could probably save even more on a Crown since they are not moving as quick as Toyota would want them.
I got 4K off my Signia XLE
Crown Signia looks like the 2nd gen of the 1st gen Venza. The real 2nd Gen Venza was too much like the RX. Too nice for a Toyota, but not good enough for the Lexus crowd.
I really liked the second GEN Venza!
I own an NX350h and wife drives a Limited Venza. Both are great cars. We are happy
This is what I didn't want to see! This past spring, I was in the market for a new car (a replacement for my NX 200T) and debated whether to wait for the Crown or get the NX 350h. I really like the reviews of the Crown, but I decided to go for a Noir Green NX 350h luxury model. Happy with my NX, but I still like the Crown.
Would you please always post a NIGHT DRIVING comparison segment when you do these videos? No One ever shows what it looks like inside the cabin at night!!!!!
I drive Rx 350 Lexus …my 4th Lexus…they are the best cars in my opinion !
I hope the Crown Signia Sport comes to the states.
Crown Sport
I test drove the Signia and the NX350h Luxury and bought the latter. While the Signia is a very nice vehicle, it feels and looks too "Toyotaish" especially, when you get into the driver's seat and see their big logo on the steering wheel. . . the same logo you find on the Prius and other lower priced models. The Lexus feels more luxurious and is definitely quieter on all levels in my opinion, especially under modest acceleration. The NX feels more luxurious overall. The Mark Levinson stereo is sincerely concert quality and remarkably better than the JBL stereo which sounds very entry level in comparison. While everyone agrees the dependability of Toyota/Lexus is sensational, it's pretty obvious the few thousand dollars more spent on the NX buys you better quality, more advanced features not available on the Signia, and the Lexus resale will be higher at trade-in time. Happy shopping!
You are absolutely correct 💯 in every way. Finally a comment with Great commonsense.
Also when it comes to service, there’s a noticeable difference between a standard Toyota service and the Lexus white glove treatment.
The physical buttons of the Signia will be a benefit for most. Also, some of the NX models might be built in the US while all Crowns are made in Japan. I bet a Japan built Crown will be better than an American Lexus.
Also, things like all Crowns getting vented seats instead of having to option it is nice.
I priced the NX on the Canada website and it came out to $67k with taxes and after the $5k rebate. That’s a lot of money there but cheaper than the Germans for sure.
Why do you think Lexus is higher quality? Both drivetrains are the same. I’ve owned two 2nd gen Venza and a 2025 NX350h. Build quality seems identical to me
I will take the Lexus! Better quality, hood struts, and it sits a tad bit higher!
When was the last time Lexus and Toyota drivers get under the hood 😂
I can't understand how hood struts are an important feature. They're just more to fail, particularly hood struts.
I’ve seen a few crown signias on the road i belive all XLE and the wagon look is amazing however overall I absolutely hate the new hammerhead design language on this and the camry whereas the prius looks good with it. Also the Crown could benefit from amber turn signals like the NX has. Using the brake lights is a very inexpensive car thing to do. Bring the venza back already 😂
The lights for rear turn signals on the Venza are simply dangerous. They were out way too low for what people expect.
@ While some people may believe this, the simple fact is Many vehicles have low mounted turn signals. Including semis when you are driving another semi. However any good driver can keep enough distance to see the rear tires of the car in front of them at a stop, and a further distance when driving. Therefore you should always be able to see the entire vehicle and the venza having amber turn signals make it more noticeable whereas in the crown signia people may not notice you have your blinker on in traffic where everyone is braking off and on. I find it hard to notice red turn signals especially when they’re flashing while braking.
I had a 23. RX, decided to cut my car payment and got a 25 Camry and the brakes completely agree 0:15 !! Are much better in the Camry! Weird huh??
I traded my 22 RX for a 25 camry and regret it. I love everything about the camry except the drivers seat. After a hundred miles it's not comfortable!
The Toyota Crown Signia looks more like a UX. Granted, it’s a bit longer. If you’re into that tanned palomino interior, you can get that in a Lexus. You can get a loaded Lexus UX 300h at a reasonable price point than a base model Signia, with less cheap plastic inside. Plus you get the white glove treatment for all service from the Lexus dealer than any Toyota dealer.
But the UX dimensions are like a Corolla hatch.
The UX is significantly smaller inside than an NX and a Signia
Our nearest Lexus dealer is 90 min away where the closest Toyota dealer is 40 min away. That alone might be a reason for us to get the Toyota instead of the Lexus despite the better service.
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ❤
Both use 4th gen hybrid. I'm sure the new Rav4 hybrid will use 5th gen. It will be a home run!
So will the 2026 NX.
What about the warranty Lexus has 4 years is the crown 3 or 4 years?
Is the NX due for a refresh soon? Or did it have one already
2026.
The guy on the bike is your FBI agent making sure you’re okay.
if the signa had the more power engine it would be cool
Which one is more quiet on the road toyota camry hybrid xle 2025 or toyota crown signia xle
NX dashboard looks dated compared to the Signia. This is the problem when you start comparisons - as time goes by, things change. What it comes down to my situation, the Lexus is more likely to be stolen.
For ventilated front seats in NX you have to pay for premium option. Signia Xle, the base model, has heated and ventilated front seats and heated rear seats. Look like rear seats has more space in Signia as well.
Yes the crown looks better, but I just can’t with its price! Again, I would simply go for a Lexus if I was to spend that kind of money
NX has better paint, and overall more premium exterior and interior.
The crown Signia is more up to date and the interior layout is more usable/intuitive, and more spacious.
we have 2025 NX350h. with that note, Crown looks more upscale on the outside. if the Signia came with tinted windows like a "real" CUV, it will be more appearing. for one thing, definitely a big departure from Venza it is replacing.
So tint the windows...
@@hctim96Wouldn’t it be in your interest for the windows to come pre-tinted?
It is actually more in line with the original venza.
The Lexus RX is much closer to the size of the Crown Signia. The Crown Signia is mid size while the NX is compact. Not understanding why you compared these two!
Price
I prefer the Lexus dealer experience and service
So get the Crown serviced at Lexus. They would love your business..
Dont let me bite the nips @@hctim96
What’s the advantage or disadvantage of larger wheels?
This messed me up. I just test drove a NX350 this weekend and I was very impressed and I'm almost ready to buy. But this makes the Crown seem like a viable alternative. That said, seems like such a weird marketing choice by Toyota and I rarely see any Crown's on the road. The main issue is that I don't think too many people are going to spend that much on a Toyota, they will just upgrade to a Lexus.
Hey Kirk would you say the XLE is the best trim? Or are we better off getting the Limited?
Definitely Limited.
The Limited is about $5,000 more expensive than the XLE. I personally don't like the panoramic moonroof and prefer smaller wheels and larger tires.
It is not fair comparison. Lexus Luxury model nearly 10k more than base model. You need to compare with Sicknia limited if you go to dealer Sicknia limited priced more than Lexus base model… this is so sick
Great reviews of both cars and good comparison. Would you ever consider using a 'sound decibel app' on you phone to get a real sound reading on the cars you review?
doesent the crown come with a 5gen hybrid system and the nx with a 4th gen?
so how can the be the same? good work. iv been waiting for a vid like this
I was curious about this also!
Both have 4th gen,
I like interior of Signia. Outside both is nice. Both of them has no spare tire. Lithium batteries in NX probably the cause of better fuel economy. Signia has old style traction battery.
I own the 2025 Nx Premium and it drives very nice compared to the Toyota. I’ve owned the RX and ES and drove the Camry first. The Lexus is a step above anything Toyota. They are more refined, smoother ride, better feel. The NX has a Proactive Driver Assist which brakes for you and other things that make the brakes activate funky, other than that it’s a beautiful luxury car .
you dont have to toot your own horn, the internet already knows you are amazing and well to do
@ who are you to say anything about my financial situation. I happened to buy Lexus because they are good cars. I’m tooting the Lexus brand. Screw off.
Towing capability comparison?
Kirk, since you have the Crown Signia for a week can we please get a nighttime review? I wonder about the headlights. In particular I wonder about the wideness of the beam pattern since it has no cornering lights. I know Lexus can have it equipped on the triple beam headlight package. I feel that lately, Toyota’s headlight low beams have been a disappointment. Also curious if the single beam housing for the low and high beams in the Crown Signia is effective. I wonder if Toyota cheaped out on the design or simply ran out of physical space. Also, curious about interior lighting. I hope it’s blue.
You broke my heart about the brakes on Crown Signia. I hope to test drive it myself one day but my local dealership has none and are extremely pushy on sales to the point of extreme annoyance.
Do you recommend it in the 1st year of production? Usually bugs cleared out on following year?
Do either have audible beeping with their respective back up sensors?
The Signia is a very good car but not a Lexus, the Nx is magnificent regarding build quality and materials, fit and finish. According to the Carnut the Crown is a very good car as well.
You are absolutely correct 💯. Crown Signia is a very good but NX is miles better in every level.
Lexus NX is far from magnificent in terms of build quality. Even the ones made in Japan. It is sub par to previous generations (both N and RX). I drive one and drove previous generation. The interior material quality is simply not at the same level as before.
@@TheBrudol new NX has excellent interior quality and miles better than the old one. Whatever you are feeling. is just your personal invalid opinion
@@TheBrudol nonsense
@@avdp9095 care to elaborate what exactly is nonsense? The old generation had better quality materials, no piano black, had brushed aluminium parts, passenger side dashboard in new NX is a disappointment in terms of quality (prone to even minor scratches and not easy to maintain). What else can I add..had the front hood locking hatch serviced twice as it was getting rust (after a year), one of speakers needs replacement and back AC vents seem to malfunction).
C'mon, Granny Cougar! She ain't wrong, Kirk. You know you fine.
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agree about the front end looks better on the Toyota
Do crown vs CX-50 hybrid
Embargo lifts in à week
Dun kno why Toyota removed the crown badge, which they have it on the JDM crown……
I love the Lexus Look ! Lexus is a SUV…the Crown looks like a wagon car
Screw the South East Toyota distributor. They add all kinds of addons charging customers way more than what the vehicle is worth. The only way to avoid these ripoff addons is to buy outside of the states southeast Toyota covers.
Kirk, I'm wondering if the base N/A NX250 has the same brake feeling as this one?
No ambient lighting and heads up is a miss. They also ought to add the more powerful engine like in the regular crown. Change that and you got yourself a car!
Lexus ES 350 vs Crown please!
I'd just wait for Lexus to get their own version of the Crown Signia and buy that one. Might get a plug-in hybrid drivetrain in that one. Fingers crossed.
Crown Signia should have the RX's 17-gallon gas tank to maximize range, since these models are in the same size range... but Crown Signia just gets the typical 14.5 gallon Toyota tank.
I noticed that one of the differences is that the Crown doesn't have tinted back windows.
Does anyone else feel like at the rate auto manufacturers are going with infotainment screen size we will all have big screen tv’s on the dash in 10 years? It’s as ridiculous as the pickup truck conundrum. Chevy, Ford and Dodge all racing to make a bigger and bigger and bigger truck year after year. Now you need a step ladder to grab something in the bed of the truck. This is why the maverick is so popular now.
The sad thing for me is, the crown is the better vehicle but nerfed so it doesnt step on Lexus' toes.
Good review, but really one is suv one is a station wagon
I test drove the new NX350H, RX350H, and Signia limited two weeks ago.
The Signia is AWFUL. low visibility out the windows. Cramped interior. The brakes were good and it was quiet. That’s about it.
The NC was fine except the heads up display doesn’t work with sunglasses. The ac controls and driving controls all on the touch screen is VERY distracting. The touch sensitive steering controls for the heads up display are horrible. You have to touch it once then touch it again to select. And even close to being worth the $60k out the door price.
The RX - same dislikes as the NX. Same price at my local dealer. Decent though. Much much better than the signia.
But…none of them were nearly as nice to drive or see out of than a 2023+ Japanese built RAV4 XSE. It drove better, steered smooth, and was quieter than my Canadian made RAV4 XSE. Yes the center controls for the ac unit look like sausage nipples….but that’s fine with me.
2023+ RAV4 XSE built in Japan is much better than the three in the video.
But my go to is the grand highlander hybrid AWD.
You do realize the Crown Signia is also exclusively built in Japan right?
@ yep. I know. The reason I say a Japanese built rav4 XSE is because they drive better, etx than the American and Canadian ones. Way better than my 2022 XSE from Canada.
I wish the Crown Signia XLE had cloth seats. That would make it perfect.
Are all Crowns/Signias built in Japan? That alone would make me want to get one.
Seems like a more appropriate comparison would be with an RX, not an NX!
Longer warranty with Lexus yes?
Out of the 2, i prefer the Crown Signia. Crossing my fingers hoping toyota brings the Crown Sport to the US, bit not betting on it.
Signia has all bells whistles techs, etc, but no f'n reclining rear seats? Does Toyota know how uncomfy it is on 8-10 hrs road trip without the ability to recline and sleep?
The NX's interior looks shockingly cheap for a luxury vehicle, but I'd still take it over the Crown Signia. The NX also looks better on the outside and has the Lexus nameplate. But the thing that seals the deal for me is the Lexus is better regarding NVH.
man those wheels on the Signia look like an airport rental
I've owned Camry's, Rav4's, an Avalon and a Highlander. The wife and I are empty nesters. We went and saw the Signia at the dealer. To us it looks like an Avalon wagon with giant rims. Not our thing. People like compact utes. My wife loves cute-utes, Americans don't seem to really like wagons/crossover(hip way to say wagon) .
Did toyota make a mistake discontinuing the Venza...... again?
Not sure. The Signia was $5k more... so we bought a 24 Venza Limited with a gorgeous Boulder interior.
Not sure why 1990 F150 king ranch Tan, black, Lexus RED , black, black or black are the only new colors toyota thinks we all want inside our new cars.
Neither for me. Good smooth linear brakes are super important to me.
I drove the Tesla vehicles and hated those brakes too.
I don’t know what he’s referring to, to be honest. I’ve owned two 2nd gen Venzas and a 2025 NX350h, both brake fine. The Lexus brakes for you when you’re getting to close to vehicles. It’s a bit sensitive, but I’m used to it. The car is doing more for me and I’ve gotten spoiled
Toyota has all these extra packages now, even on the top trim.
Why is it even compared to a NX? In terms of size it’s much closer to a RX
I like hearing about the Signia, but isn't the NX closer to the Rav 4?
Yes
NX = Rav4 + luxury; Signia = luxury - Lexus
👍 Now do an rx comparison.
One thing people never comment on is that Lexus costs way more money to service than Toyota. Regular 5k services are about $250. 30k mile service on my 2016 Lexus rx350 was about $1200. Just had my 60k service done and it was $2000. Told me when it went in that I have a timing case oil leak and gasket needs to be resealed. Price estimate for reseal is $8,000. At 67k miles are you kidding me? I’ll never buy another Lexus again. The new crown signia may be way to go. Lexus luxury with Toyota service pricing with toyota reliability. Like the styling of this crown. Only thing I’ll miss is my mark levinson sound system in my rx350. Heard the jbl premium sound systems on Toyota’s are just ehh. Certainly not as good as a Lexus ML sound system in a rx350. Anyone comment on the premium jbl sound system in this crown?
Great comparison.
I can’t say I agree or understand why RUclipsrs (and I do like your channel a lot) compare a lexus to a Toyota. I know Lexus is made by Toyota but I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. I’ve had three 4Runners, a GX460 and now a LX570. Have friends and family with RAV4s, highlanders, RX, camrys, ES, etc. What I’m saying is I’ve owned or spent time in many Lexus and Toyotas. It’s not a close comparison. They are incredibly different. It’s not even close. I hate the LC250 vs GX550 comparison. I’ve ridden in both. It’s not even close. It comes off as nothing more than content filler. Again, I really enjoy ur channel though.
You are absolutely correct 💯 . even in this Case NX is miles better than any toyota
I think it’s useful to compare for viewers that are actually considering buying the products. Which is likely because a lot of people don’t want to venture outside Toyota/lexus due to reliability
When price is factor in it does matter. Your argument is which one is better, of course the Lexus is better, else it wouldn't exist. These types of video is to determine if you want to spend the extra dollars or settle for a Toyota and keep more money in the bank.
who cares what you think
The video is apparent that the gap between Toyota and Lexus is shrinking, and if consumers are willing to rally additional dollars for the Lexus badge.