Greedy Toyota Dealership…Can’t Sell Toyota Trucks WHY?
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- In this video, we are going to walk around a Toyota dealership talk about some prices and talk about the recent issues with the engine failure recalls and much more and also none of this is financial advice, but we will also talk about some of the cars that used to be reliable did the EPA forced Toyota to get rid of the V-8 in the V6 let’s get into it
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Keep your money people. You are better off buying a 10 year car or older and stick it a new engine in it. It's way cheaper.
Why I’m still driving my 16 yo truck
That’s what I did 4 years ago , I purchased a 2002 4Runner with an engine that needed to be rebuilt due to valves and other engine internals , I purchased a brand new engine block with everything new to Toyota specs and oem parts. Paid $4k for the new engine $1000 to have it put in and $1200 for the truck with 148k miles. Till this day not a single issue like at all !!
@2011sliverdude Be careful with Nissan. Yes, their Frontier now blows away the new Tacoma but their cars still suck, especially ones with CVTs.
@@mosthated8190happy for you buddy. Smart move
@2011sliverdude I'm not saying ALL CVTs are bad, only the ones Nissan has been using. Nissan (and whatever other brands uses the same CVT manufacturer and some others do) have had many problems with their CVTs. My point was that the Frontier is a good choice. It has a proven 6 cylinder non-turbo engine and a good non CVT transmission and makes an EXCELLENT alternative to the now ruined new Tacoma.
Toyota used to have the best reputation and they are now following in the footsteps of every other car company…
What a shame
Toyota's reputation never was true, and was garnered thru marketing and dominating markets via numbers.
Reality is most major car companies hit or miss, and toyota had many misses, and weren't nearly as reliable as the thousands of internet bots claim they are
probably hired ex Big3 business/marketing guys
If they have investors they aren’t really Toyota.
Every company gets investors after IPO. So they fucked themselves. Every car company is following suit.
DO NOT OVERPAY for that overpriced underpowered Taco 😊
It's not just the dealerships. The MSRP is also out of control.
There a reason Toyota is making record profits.
@@JamaicanMeCrazyWith record inflation mind you. Remember inflation does not effect ANY BUSINESS OR POLITICIAN. They simply just raise the price.
Toyota needs to discipline any dealer that puts any mark up, adjustments, or fake overpriced packages on their vehicles in this environment that cars are having a hard time moving in, not to mention quality issues!
This is the reason why I will NEVER sell my 2006 Sequoia. It has a new frame from the dealer and literally runs better than a new truck. Obviously I meticulously maintain it, but it has over 200k miles
I think part of the problem is the dealers. They won’t budge on prices, then tack on money for crap like nitrogen in your tires.
People would buy some of these Tundras if they lowered the price quite a bit, then beefed up the warranty.
Seeing the shady stuff some new car dealers do makes me think there really isn't nitrogen in the tires nor is there any added "paint and fabric protection". They'd make good career politicians.
@@robertjones7565 ask the dealer to prove that it was done
@@robertjones7565 About seventy-six percent of the air in every filled tire is nitrogen.
It's still ridiculous that these greedy dealers are putting these add-ons when we, the consumer, don't want it.
Great video! I’ve been looking for a Tundra now going on month 2 and other than reliability issues, a major issue is these dealers playing games. A 2024 tunda’s been on the lot 150 days and refuse to take off nonsensical crap like LoJack for $900, two tinted front windows for $500 and a bunch of other nonsense. I just got off the phone with a dealer advertising a tundra for 49,900 and when I reach out to negotiate, they start the price at 54k. I ask them why the price of the vehicle is higher than that advertised and their response makes ZERO sense whatsoever. Then they tack on additional bloat fees like dealer advantage fees that offer towing and other useless things. It’s insane.
Get a 2021 trd pro my brother
@@Mackmueller5150 i began looking the titan route
@@KamalaTheClown those are pretty underrated but i dont trust nissans
@@Mackmueller5150 Dude, I can get a well equipped Pro4x with Fender audio, brake controller, electric front seats, memory seating, power rear sliding window, LED lighting for the bed and a bunch of other stuff for 50k OTD. Similar Tundra will be 10k on top. I dunno dude
Man, the Tundra is a good looking truck but when I heard engines blowing up, that's a total deal breaker
I totally agree with you my friend. Good video keep them coming.😄
A truck of a Tundra's size should have a V8. I'd be in the market for a smaller "DIY Home Depot Run Edition" 2WD with a 4-cylinder or 6-cylinder. Keep the big monster 4WD trucks for the folks that need them.
Can you go across the street for your next video and check out the Mazda dealership? Maybe do a bit of a comparison between the Mazada prices/reliability and that of Toyota.
It’s definitely on the list
Mazda/Lexus/Subaru. Stay tuned it’s all coming. Eventually
mazda replaced toyota in my list of "Cars i would buy"
Waited 10 weeks for a '23 in Lunar Rock 4x4 last Fall, Glad I did for $43,500, was contemplating just getting a new TACO, Phewww dodged one, great vid.
Hello from the UK. I love your channel, it's very informative.
Those trucks front headlight design looks like its crying lol, like they knew the engine was bad
Every time i see a 2024 tacoma on the road, I always feel sorry for that poor guy.
Ditto. I actually want to ask the person driving a New 2024 Toyota Tacoma if they have buyer’s remorse and if they knew it was a garbage before buying the truck? I have neighbors with 2 New Tacoma’s with transmission failures and other problems that are unknown. They all had to be picked up by a flat bed tow truck.
@@Slammingutz I think the issues are overly exaggerated, while some have reported failures, plenty more have reported no failures. I'm waiting on a 4th gen Pre runner.
@@westcoastplinkin6559Most of them have less than 10k on them. Just wait 5 years and we'll see how they hold up.
Toyota can come back from all this quite easily too. All they would have to do is bring back naturally aspirated V8s and put them into every vehicle… I said EVERY vehicle as an option. I don’t think a single person out there would say no to a V8 Camry.
Sporty Camry with a V8 would be cool
Toyota gave us all we never asked for with their new entire line of trucks/SUVs. Keep them
I dont even trust bringing my car into the dealership with a airbag recall, to much teenager working there, and i dont want those young folks destroying my car, let get in my car, going to steal something thats for sure
I agree I’m not even a Toyota fan but 10 years ago Toyota had excellent reliability but now they are money pits I hate to say that too because the cars are really decent looking actually
Also, a turbo engine requires premium gas. A big bump in fuel costs! $$$$
Not exactly true. I have a twin turbo news truck and it runs on regular gas….. 🤦🏻♂️
87 octane minimum but here in Canada regular is 87
People are complaining about the prices but the prices keep increasing. Now what?
Every engine has to evolve at some point and it’s going to have some issues initially. Toyota will get this hybrid system figured out at some point. The price is the problem
I shot a dealer an email on Friday. Within 2 hours I had 6 emails from the dealer trying to schedule a phone call. I left my number out for a reason. I am still waiting for the dealer to answer my one question by email. "Thank you for your email requesting information. I noticed you did not include a phone number on your request. We can accomplish a lot with a quick call. If you are working or unable to talk during the day, what is a good time to give you a quick call?" X 6....😅
I have a 10 year old truck and have been looking at a lot of different models fairly regularly. I have owned 4 Tacomas in the past and don't want to own another torture device so I have been scoping out 4Runners and Tundras. The Tundras are just too expensive from the get go but it really makes me mad when the Toyo dealers all put the damn XP predator steps (that I do not want) on the 4Runners for $4000 and "Microfilm Protection" for $800 and THEN put a dealer sticker that says "Market Adjustment" $8000. Are they kidding? Another $12000 just to get an SR5 out the door? I never thought I would say this, but I think a Ridgeline for a discounted price is a much better deal than these things.
Love my 24’ Frontier. 11k on the clock and not a single issue. Only time will tell but my 2nd gen has over 200k only brakes, tires and a few batteries.
Tacoma tailgates aren’t even on both sides. The dealership acts like they don’t care if they sell them or not.
Do you mean the button to open the tailgate? The Tacoma has it on both sides; the Tundra doesn’t
One theory is that Toyota wanted to get some of that dealer markup money, and they didn't coordinate with the dealers.
aesthetically, these cars all look great! but remember, after 1-2 years, it wont feel new anymore, you wont care about it. nobody cares what car you drive :)
Just spent a week in Moab with my new Land Cruiser. It didn’t disappoint
4' bed.
Useless.
A truck is only a truck with a 6' bed for sure!
At these prices, it’s no wonder people are buying the Trax, Envista, HR-V, or Kicks.
Yea they got rid of the 2.7 I4 ENGINE, no race truck but you don't have to worry about it, will run and run and run. Very reliable. It will still be going down the road trouble free, while these turbos are in the shop.😮
My bro has one of those he bought is brand new back in 2019 its now 140k miles he has zero issues !!!
@@UAkovalchuk bought mine in 22, Paid off only 12200 miles keeping her for the long haul. Love my simple black Tacoma 4X4.
Toyota quality used to be sure bet. Now the quality is as sketchy as their dealers' tactics.
New Tacoma looks good don’t get me wrong…. But for THAT price and NO V6?! Transmission problems? You’ve got to be absolutely crazy I’ll wait a couple years for depreciation to set in hard and see how this new engine holds up… I guess that BMW collab didn’t do anything for them 😂
Anyone paying MSRP or more for any Toyota is a fool. If your dealer still has the "golden blinders" on, GO TO ANOTHER ONE, even if it's in another state. Don't buy a new Tundra or Tacoma yet, they are obviously still working major bugs out. Going forward, unless the Toyota you're shopping for is completely made in Japan, you're now going to have to treat them like Chevy, Ford and Chrysler and wait a few years for ANY new model or new engine to get the bugs out. Toyota is NOT immune to this. They never were but with them making trucks in Mexico, Alabama and Texas, you most definitely have to treat them like the typical American made car and GIVE THEM TIME.
I’m quite surprise that Toyota priced those trucks so high and having a recall . I still believe the overall inventory and variety of Toyotas is still cheaper . I think they are still cheaper than the other brands and I expect them to change some things in the future .
Perspective …a 2023 Tacoma trd sport with a manual was about $35,000 ….now a similar Tacoma is minimum $45,000
yes my 2019 texas built sr sx V6 4x4 access cab was $34,000 and big discount and rebate in oct 2019 under $30,000 the 2024 sr 4x4 extra cab is about $36,000 , why have the top trims , and double cabs gone up so much ? most popular model and people will pay it ?
I got my 2020 OR 4x4 with just about every option for 43k out the door. Keeping that thing till it stops running.
You overpaid dude@@RascalCatify
Finance charges all way too much insurance
Toyota used to have the best reputation and they are now following in the footsteps of every other car company…
What a shame. Smart to make this video when the lot is closed….they would have chased you off right away for recording their prices…
I think the NA Management forced their way on which way the new models marketing direction including pricing and cost cutting, ie do it the American way and it turned out pretty bad. Their pricing and quality pretty much matches the American manufacturers.
Hope to keep driving my 22 years old 2003 4runner 2UZ-FE passing 25 years in Texas…..that is when yearly emission test no longer required.
BUYERS STRIKE!
Yeah I’ve had 3 Tacomas but I’m done with Toyota after they got rid of the v6. Especially with those price tags. It’s a joke.
just beginning 🎉
I just bought a brand new ford f150 xlt 4x4 the msrp was 55969 and i got it for 46646 with running boards and sprayed bedliner!! Yes they have great discounts now!! I could buy an stx for as low as 41k
Literally.
Made in Mexico, 4-cylinder turbos are junk it's like a dollar store truck. Too much money for something that has a lot more maintenance. All this change for one mpg on highway? And how about under load? Probably the 6 has better mpg. Money grab! Have fun with your payment's ha it's a long road.
The profit margin on these Tacomas (all made withe cheaper mexican labor) has to be quite large I would think.
Turbo this turbo that… trash trash trash 🗑️
Those turbos are going to explode I guarantee it!
I also guarantee that the 2024 Tacoma Turbo Engines will have a catastrophic failure under normal towing or off roading conditions. Epic fail by Toyota. Some people need to be fired and replaced.
The new tacoma is really awesome looking but the 4 cyl 😂. My bro in law has one and going up the hill the engine moans in pain. Screw toyota
I don’t understand why they get dark tints. I would be having them remove it. Or even better, I’d go to another dealer. Not everyone wants dark as hell windows
They cut their ankles off and just went four-cylinder 10 speed turbo. This is the worst business decision I’ve ever seen.
I hate I sold my 2020 4Runner but I wanted a heavy duty diesel and it had to go.
Go Nissan!
The frontier is definitely the new leader for midsize trucks
Including those wonderful JATCO CVTs?
@@jerrylundegaard2592hey tard the Frontier has a excellent transmission, look into it.
@@jerrylundegaard2592 The Frontier has a 9 speed transmission. NO CVT!
@@josephkelleher8820 The OC is "GO NISSAN" not "go Nissan Frontier." I did not say the Nissan Frontier has a CVT but most Nissan's do. Got it now?
I feel the price not very crazy. Considering inflation, you can divide all the price by 2.
door edge and door cup protection are those films that cost under $20 I'm guessing, but what the hell is hood paint protection?
NEVER buy a Toyota product if the VIN starts with a “3” 🇲🇽. You’ll thank me later🤣
Mexico?
My 3rd gen Tacoma made in Mexico has been perfectly fine.
Better than a dodge built by overpaid UAW chumps
Check out other brands.
I don’t know why new Tundra headlamps were designed like a weeping eyes. From a distance, it appears like a person has been crying. I think the initial design was to have an impression of a person with 2 dimples; however, whenever it was designed incorrectly, it appears incorrectly. Can it be fixed? Absolutely, in fact, it is probably the cheapest cost to fix.
I bought a 2021 Lexus GX last year for $44k. It was loaded with only 29k miles. I just checked with CarMax and their online written offer is $44k. So 16 months and I’m only down $4k. Why? Because of the bullet proof 4.6 V8. If I wanted a new pickup I’d buy a used Tundra with the V8 not a new 6 cyl Turbo. I only drive 7k miles a year so my GX will out live me by several decades.
all brand new cars now are trash and expensive is not worth it. Better to risk it with an used car with way less money
It’s becoming a buyers market during Covid it was a sellers market
They are going to be a very expensive problem. Who wants that? Toyota is heading down so fast ,it's like,wow, the best to the bottom.
$70, 000 for a damn Toyota Truck 😮😮😮
Are they F-ckin crazy.
I hope all the sales people lose their jobs.
And don't go crying saying it's the economy.
No it's your greedy dealerships.
I agree and disagree. I don’t think these new products are going to be unreliable or bad. They will get fixed and soon will be reliable enough. As reliable as the older models probably not but reliable enough. However, these prices are just absurd. I am not sure why they think it’s a good idea to let dealers and the MSRP be so high. As for the truck I think they should have slowly phased out the V8 and included it as an under powered option, or upgraded it. Give the V8 some upgrade and make it a hybrid. It would have made a lot of people happier and the same thing could have been done the V6. Offer the NA version as the base model V6/V8 and the power model either a hybrid V6/V8 or the iforce max engines we currently have because on paper they are better in every way. But to go back yeah these trucks are just too damn expensive
You won't pay $70k for a Tacoma and I won't pay that much either, but there are plenty of people who will and while those people are still out there this will continue.
Sales are down but profits are up so they don’t care . The government pays them to comply and they can sell fewer cars at higher prices so everyone but the consumer is happy
Toyota shifted and got rid of all the older stuff because of all the people crying “iTs BoRiNg” in the comments. Thank the automotive reviewers for this too
Gone are the days that you bought a Toyota because it’s “reliable”. Toyota got greedy with their loyal customers and failed to deliver.
I’ll keep driving my 89 Toyota 4x4! Cost me $1000 about 20 years ago and probably spent $3000 on maintenance the whole time I’ve had it. And it’s never Sean a mechanic. So simple to work on.
Volkswagen has 23k cars
Little 4 cylinder in a truck 🤣🤣. The quality is so bad and rides like garbage.
My 95 Tacoma, zero issues at 200K, 08 Tundra, bullet proof at 300K+ and 16 Tacoma, just hit 100K easily. New Toyotas are garbage. Hoping Akio steps in soon to save the Toyota legacy.
Toyota going down
Lets not call it a Taco anymore. Call it the Taquito now.
OK, the lead in commercial for this video was from Nissan. They were touting a "7-Mode drive system", and about that point I hit SKIP. But that alone tells us that there is toooooo much bullshit baked into these vehicles. Just get me from point A to point B safely and let the rest of the crap you try to add on be options, not features.
too rich for my blood.
I saw a f150 lighting with a catalytic converter theft proofing package. Think of that for a minute guys
What a joke! Who can afford a 60-70k dollar truck??? Sorry, I'm not paying a 600 to 800 a month car payment. Not happening!!
The Chevy Colorado is definitely the best mid size truck right now.
38,000 for that Tacoma
Still to much no thanks good bye toyota 😂
you so right
As you know all new trucks are expensive. All makes !!
Price & boost Up, quality & cylinders down. Most people pay over 50k expect big old V8.
Most of the world can buy Chinese built EV trucks, US problem is no competition. And greed.
Toyota went woke. That's what happened.
you got to baby these new Toyotas. before they were rugged now they’re fragile with shiny plastic .
The truck is quicker so you have to pay for that even if it means less reliability.
I got a 2016 camry xse v6 pretty nice car
I can wait 5-10 years easy lol
I've had my Chevy for 25 years, I can wait another 25.
@@TLaw44 Exactly. I have a car I bought in 07 and one in 16. Idiots paying markup are part of the problem.
Only down 29%! I'll wait for bubble to burst.
At 0:26--- what exactly is "door cup protection" other than something to pad the dealer's pocket.
Window tint, door edge guards door cup guards is normally what these dealers in my area are charging $2000 for
It’s just a really cheap piece of plastic put in the door cup, and then at the edge of the doors
I’m glad people are not buying these cheaply made and over priced Toyota vehicles. Even Toyota cars and crossover vehicles are having issues. My parents bought a brand new 2023 RAV4 SE Hybrid and it’s been in the shop for check engine lights, fuel pump failure , and interior parts breaking. All New Toyota Model year Cars, trucks, and SUVs feel cheap and drive uneasy. Toyota needs a leadership change and I will NOT purchase a NEW Toyota until I see Toyota go back to making quality vehicles and they fire the CEO, board members, and engineers. Epic failure Toyota.
Toyota does not care they get most of their money overseas.
Lottery win or not. I would NEVER buy a brand new vehicle
sequoia has to many luxury trims why is there a limited , platinum , 1794 than add TRD OFF road to these 3 , top trims capstone ,TRD PRO , the SR5 base , sr5 trd sport , sr5 trd off road than add premium to these 3 =14 4x4 models trims only tundra I like is the SR or SR5 double cab with the 6.5 ' box which Toyota dont send to the so caif region , same with sr /sr5/trd preruner extra cab all I see is double cabs trd sports in the $47k range