It’s heartwarming to see a reviewer, who appreciates bluff and diplomacy in an area control game and does not go all “Rising Sun is good, but look at Blood Rage and Kemet, where everyone is always in battle just for the hell of it and my monster miniatures and power cards go “Br-r-r”.
I like all the games you mentioned. But Rising Sun DIPLOMACY is lacking to say the least. There's not much actual diplomacy in the game, just "hey, wanna ally? We both want to play the same mandate".
Rising Sun is my #1 game of all time. I agree with everything you said, the benefits, as well as the things that make it a game that isn't for everyone. Excellent coverage of the pros and cons of a top-notch game.
I got this on sale for $60 without knowing much about it besides that its a good game. Thanks for the excellent review and breakdown, solidifying my purchase.
Totally agree! One thing that really struck our group was how intuitive it was to pick up in play as well. Just need to decide whether I want (or need) to paint the minis!
This is my favorite game, and I agree with everything you said. For people looking to buy, I actually think the game is strongest with just the core box - Fox is neat but actually kind of limited in ways you don't see immediately, you can find some cheap Turtle minis and/or chess rooks to DIY the strongholds, and a lot of the KS monsters are just fun noise. The Invasion clans are also neat but they're both trickier to play, worthwhile if you fall in love but more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
Nice review, very clear about what makes the game great and what you like about certain phases. Just purchased this for my 5 player game group and can’t wait to form alliances, betray each other and have that cool combat. We play games like Dune, Game Of Thrones and Cosmic Encounter to name a few so this sounds perfect for us!
This whole comment section has become a sort of community on itself. I love it. Rising Sun is also my number 1 board game of all time. I love Inis, Blood Rage, Root, Ankh, Cyclades and more. But Rising Sun is the one and only I will be with for the rest of my life. Thanks @Room and Board and everyone in the comments for showing RS so much love.
I am really enjoying your style. Entertaining. Informative. I have a clear indication on how you feel about the game. Why I might not like the game. I like the pacing. A+
I cant wait for rising sun daimyo box kickstarter to come next week its always been my grail game since 2020 covid . Finally i get to played it ! I cant wait to try blood rage !
Good review. Love that you separated the video into segments for easily identifying which parts interested me the most. Your video reminded me of starlit citadels board game's review style. Keep it up! #subscribed.
By Gad man that was good! You had me enraptured with your rendition of House of the Rising Sun - was it the Bob Dylan or the Animals version? I'm not a gambler (like the hero of the aforementioned song), but my money is on the former. I'm your newest subscriber, and I can assure you of one thing: I'magonna like allll yo' videos!
@@merasmussen82 Aw, thanks I really appreciate that. I'll get there! Been pretty happy with my growth so far, looking ahead to that 1k milestone. Want to focus on some more review content like this, I think that'll help.
Rising Sun is my favourite game by far, however I normally play with 2 others, and I find it that it is not as good with three people... But I really fucking love the bluffing and backstabbing, it's gorgeous!
Awesome! I appreciate it at three because you get all those extra moves, but if I have the choice I think 5 is my favorite player count. I think 3 is great if there are two newer players and 1 very competent player because the alliances can offset that experience.
@@RoomandBoardReviews I will give it another shot at three then, since I only played once that way! Yesterday I played with a total of 6 and it was brutal, I chose a total of three mandates throughout the whole game 😅 I don't know how the Koi managed to arrive to each war phase with 20 coins/ronin stealing from those with less honor than him (constantly praying to Amaterasu) and getting payed for the ship routes... No one had a chance hahaha
@@illuminatidorito4029 oh man, yeah I find 6 players so hard. It feels like SUCH a different experience than 3-5, I think because the coins are so so scarce. That's bananas with koi, utter domination haha. I really like the boat season cards for 3 (I think it's the boat with the way of the snake card that gives you the extra betrayals in the fall season) almost makes me want to without an alliance at the end because it's so fun, and helps offset if that third person hasn't had an alliance for a while.
Rising Sun is my favourite game, but my group, family and gf trying to play all end up at a battle and saying "wait what, you have how much strength??!" Because they didn't remember that say my Monster is a strength of 5 that does something special, and I have an upgrade card that makes my Daimyo a 2, etc, etc and it sort of turns into the abysmal Smash Up where you have to go around the table and math out everyone's strength, every turn, every time for everyone else because they can never remember. This feels even worse after bidding as it's too late to retcon it and it's simply because they didn't even know that it was already 8-2-4 strength between the 3 of us, so what they did makes no sense in the context of the battle anyways. That's my main gripe with the game and otherwise it's pure perfection. Kemet B&S, Ankh and Blood Rage are much simpler with counting up strength and any special abilities imo. Also, I love the videos, you talk me off the hype of many KS games and I'm here for it. Hey from Ontario too :P
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I JUST got Ankh in and unboxed it, looking forward to hopefully getting my first game in this week. I have pretty high hopes!
Great review! Intro brilliant! One question about the monsters in the game: Do they play a difference in the game or is it like in Blood rage, where they rarely make a difference?
I'd say it's about as much impact as Blood Rage, maybe a little bit more depending on the monster - having that extra Shinto to use up at the Kami Shrines or having an extra Daimyo is decent, but with the battle mechanic your monster can be immediately negated if someone uses the take hostage action, so they aren't super overpowered. The other upgrades are about the same strength too even if you don't get a cool figure to go along with them haha
@@RoomandBoardReviews would be nice if they balanced it some more, perhaps make it hard for you to obtain a monster, for example do a mini quest, where to would have to sacrifice some of your resources (men, money, honor, alliance etc.). But it would only work in certain situations, so that players didn’t go for the monsters, every time they want an easy win (much like military victory in civilization). In Those situations, where you make the sacrifices in the right moment, the monster would be deadly. Of course if you misjudged the situation and sacrificed at the wrong moment, the other players would be more inclined to win.
@@madsbritbo8005 I actually think the other cards are more powerful because they can't be negated in combat, so while it's fun to take the monsters strategically it's not always the best choice, which is how you want it to be. Coins are so valuable as so the cost of things is really felt especially later on in the battles
@@RoomandBoardReviews you probably right, I haven’t played the game yet, but this Sunday me and four others will adventure out on our first rising sun. Thanks again for the review and answers 👍🏻
@@madsbritbo8005 Oh amazing!! Just hearing about your upcoming play put a big smile on my face! I hope you all have a great time! If you have any rules questions, feel free to comment on this video, usually they go to my phone so I might be able to get to it if it's beside me.
Hellllllloe... after using catch phrases from your video, I was able to convince my friends to try RS! There is one Monster that becomes a damio+1, this monster also cannot be betrayed and cannot be taken hostage?
I've only played 6 players a few times and I definitely still enjoy it, but it changes the game strategy wise. The amount of coins you get becomes a LOT more important, I found coins being super scarce was the main difference, and I think that's because you'll win less harvests, just with so many people on the board. So I'd say just keep that in mind. I'd also say to play with both Sun and Moon clan, or neither one. Just for the balance of who has access to cards and monsters, making sure it's always competitive, because I think having JUST one is a little be unfair, because while everyone else's cards may run out, that one person would still have more monsters to draw from. Otherwise I enjoyed it at 6, and would be happy to play it, but it was a bit shocking to me at how different the strategy felt with just that addition of one extra player (because I've played it at 5 a lot)
@@RoomandBoardReviews Awesome, thanks for the speedy reply. Yea I totally get that, was thinking not using the Dynasty Invasion expansion, to keep things as simple as possible for a first play too. Im excited to play this! things are going to get ugly I'm sure of it 😂 (in a good way) Thanks again!
@@Dannezou haha, of course, I hope your group loves it! If they're also the type of players to ally for the whole game and not switch things up, maybe suggest that the 3 players who will get that extra turn (the three highest honour) over the course of the game each ally with someone who's not going to. Or don't! That's the beauty of rising sun, it's gonna get uuuugly haha. But if you know your group may not enjoy it if they feel like they don't get a choice, because sometimes people feel that way when they don't get more than one action, just something to consider to make sure they love their first play. If your group can get sensitive about those sorts of things.
I like Rising Sun. But I really hated the battle system. It's convoluted. Most of the time half of the biding options are usless to you. And the other half, it's just a coin flip between you and your oponent trying to "guess" what the other will do. I know that you know that I know, so in truth, nobody knows anything. The Fox clan is BROKEN and should be banned. If you don't have it, don't bother. Also, deals being "not biding", is only a thing if you don't play with the same group every time. Because if you do, your deals better be biding, or nobody will ever make a deal with you again. The upgrade mandates from the KickStarter LARGELY affect the game experience. And the strongholds are necessary for visibility.
Just imagine if you were living in Brazil and Rising Sun isn't actually 110$CAD but 400 to 500CAD? Would you still pay this much? Also like ps5 here is around 5 to 6000CAD (5-6000R$ reais of course) I am just saying how much anything is way more expensive here lol thanks for the video I Might buy Rising sun soon :)
Oh geez, I'm so cheap that it would take a lot to get it, but it IS my favourite of all time. I get pretty scared at that price point. I've never spent that much on any single board game purchase, although Etherfields and Ankh sucked me in enough to get close. Wow, that's so expensive compared! Hope you can find it for a deal, and if you get it you absolutely love it :)
@@RoomandBoardReviews wow thanks a lot for the feedback and take your time to reply my post, really appreciate your help here, I will probably get this one :) thanks again
See, as a Canadian, we're fed a steady stream of propaganda that America IS the only country in the world! I never knew there were others! You have changed my world for the better, and also really helped me understand why air travel exists, and what those big blue parts are on a map! (Also according to this, it did start in America, as did the Golden Buzzer moment : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Got_Talent - which I definitely didn't know before, glad I looked it up - can't believe there are so many versions - although I was happier learning about all the versions of The Mole that exist out there, that's a dang good show)
It’s heartwarming to see a reviewer, who appreciates bluff and diplomacy in an area control game and does not go all “Rising Sun is good, but look at Blood Rage and Kemet, where everyone is always in battle just for the hell of it and my monster miniatures and power cards go “Br-r-r”.
I like all the games you mentioned. But Rising Sun DIPLOMACY is lacking to say the least. There's not much actual diplomacy in the game, just "hey, wanna ally? We both want to play the same mandate".
Rising Sun is my #1 game of all time. I agree with everything you said, the benefits, as well as the things that make it a game that isn't for everyone. Excellent coverage of the pros and cons of a top-notch game.
Thanks a bunch! Glad you enjoyed!
@@RoomandBoardReviews Best value for dollar is level 99 games :P
Also my favourite game of all time!
I got this on sale for $60 without knowing much about it besides that its a good game. Thanks for the excellent review and breakdown, solidifying my purchase.
Totally agree! One thing that really struck our group was how intuitive it was to pick up in play as well. Just need to decide whether I want (or need) to paint the minis!
For our play group this has been the most obtuse, janky and incohesive game we've ever played.
This is my favorite game, and I agree with everything you said. For people looking to buy, I actually think the game is strongest with just the core box - Fox is neat but actually kind of limited in ways you don't see immediately, you can find some cheap Turtle minis and/or chess rooks to DIY the strongholds, and a lot of the KS monsters are just fun noise.
The Invasion clans are also neat but they're both trickier to play, worthwhile if you fall in love but more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
Nice review, very clear about what makes the game great and what you like about certain phases. Just purchased this for my 5 player game group and can’t wait to form alliances, betray each other and have that cool combat. We play games like Dune, Game Of Thrones and Cosmic Encounter to name a few so this sounds perfect for us!
Awesome, I hope you love it. I absolutely love dune as well so I think you should enjoy it :)
Funny, informative and great production value! Excited for this channel! Oh, and bought RS btw, it is on sale for 64 € atm and this convinced me!
Amazing! Thanks so much for watching and I hope you love it!
This whole comment section has become a sort of community on itself. I love it. Rising Sun is also my number 1 board game of all time. I love Inis, Blood Rage, Root, Ankh, Cyclades and more. But Rising Sun is the one and only I will be with for the rest of my life. Thanks @Room and Board and everyone in the comments for showing RS so much love.
Thanks for being here :) Rising Sun hang rise up!!!
I am really enjoying your style. Entertaining. Informative. I have a clear indication on how you feel about the game. Why I might not like the game. I like the pacing. A+
Thanks so much, that means a lot!
I cant wait for rising sun daimyo box kickstarter to come next week its always been my grail game since 2020 covid . Finally i get to played it ! I cant wait to try blood rage !
@@Percivaltheroundtable oh amazing!!! I'm so excited for you!!
Bloody outstanding review
what a great board game review! enjoeyed the watch :D
Great video. Rising Sun is AWESOME. Top 3 games of all time.
Great review!!
Good review. Love that you separated the video into segments for easily identifying which parts interested me the most. Your video reminded me of starlit citadels board game's review style. Keep it up! #subscribed.
Hey, thanks so much, I really appreciate that :)
Not my favourite game but enjoyed and appreciated your review.
This is a really well done and enjoyable video! I am subscribing to this channel right now!
Great review but I wasn't expecting for this ending, it was like a subversive Tom Vasel's component drop 😆
Also.. I've discovered your channel today and watched all reviews, thanks ;)
Haha, had to do something special for that golden buzzer moment! I dread the day when it's solely a dice game! Haha. Thanks for watching my friend!
There’s so much tension in the battle phase, I love it!
Excellent game in my top 10 out of 200.
Great video.
Thanks :) I'm glad it's in the top 10 where it belongs!! Haha
@@RoomandBoardReviews We have it locked into an annual play, over New Years weekend. My wife and kids love it!
By Gad man that was good! You had me enraptured with your rendition of House of the Rising Sun - was it the Bob Dylan or the Animals version? I'm not a gambler (like the hero of the aforementioned song), but my money is on the former. I'm your newest subscriber, and I can assure you of one thing: I'magonna like allll yo' videos!
Haha thanks so much. Yeah definitely the former, gotta go Bob Dylan all the way on that one!
@@RoomandBoardReviews seriously, I love the style of your reviews. Informative, elements of humour, you deserve a lot more subscribers!
@@merasmussen82 Aw, thanks I really appreciate that. I'll get there! Been pretty happy with my growth so far, looking ahead to that 1k milestone. Want to focus on some more review content like this, I think that'll help.
Rising Sun is my favourite game by far, however I normally play with 2 others, and I find it that it is not as good with three people... But I really fucking love the bluffing and backstabbing, it's gorgeous!
Awesome! I appreciate it at three because you get all those extra moves, but if I have the choice I think 5 is my favorite player count. I think 3 is great if there are two newer players and 1 very competent player because the alliances can offset that experience.
@@RoomandBoardReviews I will give it another shot at three then, since I only played once that way! Yesterday I played with a total of 6 and it was brutal, I chose a total of three mandates throughout the whole game 😅 I don't know how the Koi managed to arrive to each war phase with 20 coins/ronin stealing from those with less honor than him (constantly praying to Amaterasu) and getting payed for the ship routes... No one had a chance hahaha
@@illuminatidorito4029 oh man, yeah I find 6 players so hard. It feels like SUCH a different experience than 3-5, I think because the coins are so so scarce. That's bananas with koi, utter domination haha. I really like the boat season cards for 3 (I think it's the boat with the way of the snake card that gives you the extra betrayals in the fall season) almost makes me want to without an alliance at the end because it's so fun, and helps offset if that third person hasn't had an alliance for a while.
I did subscribe. I don't remember when
Wow Mr. East coast, SOMEBODY is up late….
Rising Sun is my favourite game, but my group, family and gf trying to play all end up at a battle and saying "wait what, you have how much strength??!" Because they didn't remember that say my Monster is a strength of 5 that does something special, and I have an upgrade card that makes my Daimyo a 2, etc, etc and it sort of turns into the abysmal Smash Up where you have to go around the table and math out everyone's strength, every turn, every time for everyone else because they can never remember.
This feels even worse after bidding as it's too late to retcon it and it's simply because they didn't even know that it was already 8-2-4 strength between the 3 of us, so what they did makes no sense in the context of the battle anyways. That's my main gripe with the game and otherwise it's pure perfection. Kemet B&S, Ankh and Blood Rage are much simpler with counting up strength and any special abilities imo.
Also, I love the videos, you talk me off the hype of many KS games and I'm here for it. Hey from Ontario too :P
You'll never convince me I am not too dumb for this game!!
I believe in you. You still haven't played eh? It's so good.
I want to play this!
Yessssssssssssssssss
Just stumbled on your channel, great review. I'm hoping to get this soon. Have you tried Ankh gods of egypt yet? I However did pick that up.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I JUST got Ankh in and unboxed it, looking forward to hopefully getting my first game in this week. I have pretty high hopes!
Great review! Intro brilliant! One question about the monsters in the game: Do they play a difference in the game or is it like in Blood rage, where they rarely make a difference?
I'd say it's about as much impact as Blood Rage, maybe a little bit more depending on the monster - having that extra Shinto to use up at the Kami Shrines or having an extra Daimyo is decent, but with the battle mechanic your monster can be immediately negated if someone uses the take hostage action, so they aren't super overpowered. The other upgrades are about the same strength too even if you don't get a cool figure to go along with them haha
@@RoomandBoardReviews would be nice if they balanced it some more, perhaps make it hard for you to obtain a monster, for example do a mini quest, where to would have to sacrifice some of your resources (men, money, honor, alliance etc.). But it would only work in certain situations, so that players didn’t go for the monsters, every time they want an easy win (much like military victory in civilization). In Those situations, where you make the sacrifices in the right moment, the monster would be deadly. Of course if you misjudged the situation and sacrificed at the wrong moment, the other players would be more inclined to win.
@@madsbritbo8005 I actually think the other cards are more powerful because they can't be negated in combat, so while it's fun to take the monsters strategically it's not always the best choice, which is how you want it to be. Coins are so valuable as so the cost of things is really felt especially later on in the battles
@@RoomandBoardReviews you probably right, I haven’t played the game yet, but this Sunday me and four others will adventure out on our first rising sun. Thanks again for the review and answers 👍🏻
@@madsbritbo8005 Oh amazing!! Just hearing about your upcoming play put a big smile on my face! I hope you all have a great time! If you have any rules questions, feel free to comment on this video, usually they go to my phone so I might be able to get to it if it's beside me.
Love the opening! Juno nominee?
Hellllllloe... after using catch phrases from your video, I was able to convince my friends to try RS! There is one Monster that becomes a damio+1, this monster also cannot be betrayed and cannot be taken hostage?
Correct, Yurei gets all the benefits of a daimyo, including if you get path of the lion or path of the dragon, her force increases as well
Thanks a lot for lighting reply... I am yet to claim a victory with the TURTLES, but will retain loyalty and keep trying.@@RoomandBoardReviews
@@CoconutMonkeey you just caught me at a great time! Good luck! Love the turtles!!
The IMMORTAL TURTLE have been wreaking havoc, my wife and friends demand a DAIKAIJU now 😋
Great review! what are you views on this game at 6 players? About to introduce this to my group but I've heard mixed things at max player count?
I've only played 6 players a few times and I definitely still enjoy it, but it changes the game strategy wise. The amount of coins you get becomes a LOT more important, I found coins being super scarce was the main difference, and I think that's because you'll win less harvests, just with so many people on the board. So I'd say just keep that in mind. I'd also say to play with both Sun and Moon clan, or neither one. Just for the balance of who has access to cards and monsters, making sure it's always competitive, because I think having JUST one is a little be unfair, because while everyone else's cards may run out, that one person would still have more monsters to draw from.
Otherwise I enjoyed it at 6, and would be happy to play it, but it was a bit shocking to me at how different the strategy felt with just that addition of one extra player (because I've played it at 5 a lot)
@@RoomandBoardReviews Awesome, thanks for the speedy reply. Yea I totally get that, was thinking not using the Dynasty Invasion expansion, to keep things as simple as possible for a first play too. Im excited to play this! things are going to get ugly I'm sure of it 😂 (in a good way) Thanks again!
@@Dannezou haha, of course, I hope your group loves it! If they're also the type of players to ally for the whole game and not switch things up, maybe suggest that the 3 players who will get that extra turn (the three highest honour) over the course of the game each ally with someone who's not going to. Or don't! That's the beauty of rising sun, it's gonna get uuuugly haha. But if you know your group may not enjoy it if they feel like they don't get a choice, because sometimes people feel that way when they don't get more than one action, just something to consider to make sure they love their first play. If your group can get sensitive about those sorts of things.
I like Rising Sun. But I really hated the battle system. It's convoluted. Most of the time half of the biding options are usless to you. And the other half, it's just a coin flip between you and your oponent trying to "guess" what the other will do. I know that you know that I know, so in truth, nobody knows anything.
The Fox clan is BROKEN and should be banned. If you don't have it, don't bother.
Also, deals being "not biding", is only a thing if you don't play with the same group every time. Because if you do, your deals better be biding, or nobody will ever make a deal with you again.
The upgrade mandates from the KickStarter LARGELY affect the game experience. And the strongholds are necessary for visibility.
Just imagine if you were living in Brazil and Rising Sun isn't actually 110$CAD but 400 to 500CAD? Would you still pay this much? Also like ps5 here is around 5 to 6000CAD (5-6000R$ reais of course) I am just saying how much anything is way more expensive here lol thanks for the video I Might buy Rising sun soon :)
Oh geez, I'm so cheap that it would take a lot to get it, but it IS my favourite of all time. I get pretty scared at that price point. I've never spent that much on any single board game purchase, although Etherfields and Ankh sucked me in enough to get close. Wow, that's so expensive compared! Hope you can find it for a deal, and if you get it you absolutely love it :)
@@RoomandBoardReviews wow thanks a lot for the feedback and take your time to reply my post, really appreciate your help here, I will probably get this one :) thanks again
You are handsome 🥰
"More and more boardgames are 100$ nowadays"
My wallet felt this. So much that quality games less than 100 bucks are already godsend
You do know there is more then one country in the world right... with that talent show... it didn't even start in america...
See, as a Canadian, we're fed a steady stream of propaganda that America IS the only country in the world! I never knew there were others! You have changed my world for the better, and also really helped me understand why air travel exists, and what those big blue parts are on a map!
(Also according to this, it did start in America, as did the Golden Buzzer moment : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Got_Talent - which I definitely didn't know before, glad I looked it up - can't believe there are so many versions - although I was happier learning about all the versions of The Mole that exist out there, that's a dang good show)