And at the end when Floor starts singing about - be still my son , you’re home- those are the actual words from his mother when he went home. As someone else stated , they no longer play this song as Tuomas has moved on - but when they did play it , he had said quite often he would have to remove his ear pieces or have the sound guys cut the power off as it was so very difficult for him to listen too.
This is quite possibly the single greatest live performance of a song that I have ever seen. An incredible song, performed breathtakingly. Floor, and this band, are astonishing. Cheers from Australia.
@@melvinthinks yeah maybe, always depends on the type of tears hehe. Music can absolutely resonate with your body and neural system and trigger emotions, whenever a song does that it just feels so good and I love it. It’s no sadness or anything like that, it’s just pure emotion. Really feels good, kicks!
There are a couple of notable moments in this song that may not be immediately noticed. First, when the words "Three minutes and counting" are uttered, it is exactly three minutes until the dramatic moment when Tuomas draws his hand across his throat. Second, at the end, Emppu and Marko go to stand beside Tuomas. They, were, at that time, the only two members of the band who had been there when the whole incident with Tarja happened, and they go to stand in solidarity with him. Melvin, you did a really good job with this song. One commmenter on another reaction referred to it as "the holy grail of Nightwish songs" and I think that is right. Thank you for handling the reaction as you did.
Ahhhh. Thank you 🙏 I remember over a year ago when I first uncovered this band via Ghost Love Score. This song was heavily recommended in the comments but with a few caveats. It remained on my To Do List ever since. I'm definitely glad I tackled this the way I did. Had I literally gone in blind I would have missed the point entirely. Sometimes doing a bit of research in advance clearly works in your favour 😊 And it's definitely up there. It's simply stunning. I'm gonna have to watch back so I can pinpoint the scenes you mentioned.
@@melvinthinksAlthough much as you enjoyed listening to Tarja, This is a song she would never have sung, as it was written about the impact of how she left the band in 2005. The original version was sung by Anette, but Floor took it to a whole new level. Not performed very often, and not since this 2015 tour.
@ecbftl yeah - that would be a bit awkward! I didn't initially know the song was linked to the exit of Tarja. I thought it stemmed solely from his own personal troubles.
Thanks for that, I didn't realise that was at 3 minutes. I was moved with how they went to support him . Would love to hear it again love but can understand why it wouldn't be ❤
The Poet and the Pendulum is the song about there 1st singer Tarja Turnunen getting fired in 2005 , HERE IS MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS - The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band at the time of this show )were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era
Tarja is the reason this song was written. It was actually originally sung by Annette, their 2nd vocalist. She did it much different. they may never perform this song live again. Tuomas has healed and moved on from this tragic episode in the history of Nightwish.
Yes, exactly. You should definitely listen to Anette's renditions of this song (and others) too. She tends to be the least popular of the 3 Nightwish singers, but wrongly so and I think she's also the most underrated! Compared to Floor and Tarja, she had the least impressive stage presence and her voice was definitely very different (more pop style). But she was (and still is) a great studio musician, so my advice is to listen to the studio albums Anette produced with Nightwish, I think this is where she shines the most, this one (and other songs) have some very unique little features that I really like. For me, this alone made Anette #2 after Floor for me!
@ yes but no, yes because of course, Floors interpretations of these older songs are amazing but no, because if you listen to the older renditions you’ll notice that they evolved quite a bit, Tuomas, the Band and Floor are constantly working on their performances, Floor definitely came up with her own ideas and Tuomas liked a lot of them I think.
That depression that Tuomas felt was due to the huge fan backlash after firing Tarja in 2005, even the Finnish Prime Minister chimed in. This performance is from Wembley Arena 2015. From the 2007 Dark Passion Play album, so originally recorded with Anette. The choir did all the operatic parts then. Floor wanted to do all of them, but Tuomas wanted to keep the boy soprano in the beginning. A VERY personal song for Tuomas, he would often have the sound guys remove the vocals from his in ear mix. You see Emppu go to Tuomas early, to check on how he is doing. Emppu and Marko go over at the end in a show of support, Floor even looks over for a moment before saying 'Thank You' The last part is some of the words Tuomas' Mother said to him when he went home. If we haven't mentioned it before, whenever you hear 'poet' or 'boy' , Tuomas is usually talking about himself. Song was partly inspired by Edgar Allen Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum". The lyric '1000 pages of erased text' I see as all the songs he would have written , had the split with Tarja not happened. 1 of 3 songs pertaining to the breakup with Tarja. "Bye Bye Beautiful" and Master Passion Greed. None of the 3 are played anymore, Master Passion Greed(Marko lead vocals)has never been played live. The music video for "Bye Bye Beautiful" often gets blocked in some countries, so if you want to hear that, suggest the remastered live version from Exit festival 2008, on Nightwish Arena channel. Refresher, 2nd and current drummer is Kai Hahto. TPATP is the 2nd longest song in their discography to date. Only "The Greatest Show On Earth", at 21 minutes, is longer (Live versions at Tampere 2015 and Wembley 2015). First lyric : The End. Last lyric: The Beginning.
The respect you treated this art with was inspiring! Great work man! Doing some research gave so much to this. Thank you for great insights and comments as well. Keep em coming! =)
I am someone strugling with deep depression. This band brings me joy. Not a small thing with condicion where you can not feel joy. I am so very happy that Tuomas had the emotinal strenght and artistic capability to do this instead of joining the club of all the rock/ metal/ grunge talents who could not. This is why we need art studies AND why all need to learn at very young age about feelings, healthy self worth and (to be frank) that boys do have all feelings too because they are, in fact, humans.
Marko will forever be missed but the new album is truly a banger. That aside, this song is really special. So much emotion, it always brings me to tears
@@melvinthinks The last song on the new album, Lanternlight, is one of the most beautiful and emotional songs you will ever hear. You have been warned!
Hands down, one of the best songs ever written and one of the best performances ever....eh.... performed. Glad you got to that one mate. I'm off to dry my eyes now 😊
Anette had sung most of the parts Floor sang, and the part 3 The Pacific, was sung by the choir boy, originally. But this has become the ultimate version. The pain and depression was related to having to part ways with Tarja, and the subsequent backlash. Keep exploring Nightwish, including their new album.
I've got so much material to catch up on before I get to their new record! 😆 I might have to just jump into it because otherwise it could take me years if I listen chronologically 😃
@@melvinthinks Yup asc is right. Horrible mix overall, cutting a once in a generation vocal giant to size (at times also way to much txt/syllables she has to cram into unnatural vocal lines). Intentional artistic choice to boot, which makes it even worse. Troy, a mediocre backing singer as a prominent vocalist.. All about Tuomas' message now. NW has more or less become his solo project, disguised as a band.
@@ascensionenergetics85 Since when do we care about studio mixes? The magic happens when the band feeds of the energy of the audience. There are few exceptions to the rule where we actually advice reacting to a music video. Unfortunately we'll have to wait until the end of 2026..if we're lucky.
The demo version of the album 'Dark Passion Play' was recorded, obviously, after Tarja left and before Anette came. So Marko had to sing the whole demo album alone, including 'The Poet and the Pendulum'. The demo version is on YT. "Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum, demo version(Marco) + lyrics" Lyrics in the description box. A few lines were left out from the final version: Would you like to rape my rotting carcass? Dissect my heart? And desecrate my rest? It would make you come, wouldn't it? Plus some other minor changes. Anette's version is quite good as well. Live at Wacken Open Air 2008, and Live at Gampel Open Air 2008 for example. She understands what Tuomas went through and really feels it, but she has her limitations, (operatic vocals). So I think Floor can better portray all the different emotions in this song. Floor had a burnout in 2012, she didn't want to have anything to do with music after her band broke up against her will. She had just recovered when Nightwish asked her to join the band. So I think he could relate to what Tuomas went through.
Yes sir. Bloody hell for a couple of places in this song. While I have been depressed for most of my life, I've never been particularly suicidal. This music lets us feel that feeling, through a screen of course. I'm grateful for the amazing mode of communication here.
It has been suggested elsewhere that "the shoulder" refers to other members of the band. Thus, he cannot cry on the shoulder (he cannot look to his bandmates for comfort) because they cry more.
Guy Elliott was the boy soprano at the start. He was from St Mary's Choir School, Reigate, UK. Another boy soprano sang the part "sparkle my scenery..." on the album but Floor said that she could do it live and Tuomas agreed. If it is possible to have just one favourite Nightwish song, this is mine. So relatable. Marko sang the original demo - darker, cruder, more 4 letter words, very angry - not quite as angry or heavy as "Master, Passion, Greed" from the same point in time and feelings! The third song of the "Tarja thing" trilogy was "Bye, Bye Beautiful".
I think it is quite hard to have a favourite NW song. Everything I have done to date is a little bit different and evoke different feelings and emotions. This song definitely hits your heart the hardest, though.
Floor has such *astounding* breath control that she can sit there, in leather for F's sake, and **sing** like that! As for who I think could also sound like that? Jackie Evancho. 👍👍
Unfortunately, we won't hear this song live anymore. Tuomas took it off the setlist after this tour. He wanted to finally put the breakup with Tarja behind him. It's about the situation he found himself in after the breakup with Tarja. Only Marko and Empuu were still there at the time and the three of them are together at the end. The original singer was Anette.
The drummers name is Kai Hahto. He comes from the finnish band 'Wintersun'. He replaces the former drummer Jukka Nevalainen because of this health issues.
Nightwish lyrics are different. They always mean something and should be listened to. Drummer: Kai Hahto (who replaced his friend Jukka in the band due to the latter's insomnia problems). The original singer wasn't either Tarja (it could hardly have been Tarja!) or Floor. It was Anette Olzen. Check out "7 Days To The Wolves" at Wembley if you haven't already. I think you'd like that.
I think if you are a metal fan and don't like this song, then you don't like metal, and that's before you start on the orchestral parts, it is soooo good. When it starts it hits you right in the gonads, well it would if I had any😊 Great reaction as usual see you for the next one🇬🇧
I must admit that I'm envious of you English speakers to be able to hear and understand every word somebody sings. Regardless, I almost cry every time I hear Floor Jansen.
"Imagine someone else singing this song". Well! On the album version it was sung by Anette Olson, tho some parts sung here by Floor were sung by a boy soprano. And there's also a demo version sung completely by Marko because when this song was written he was the only vocalist in the band.
I tend to try and do a little bit of research where I can, just out of respect for the fans. Am I Scottish? 😆 No, my friend. North London accent is what you can hear 😬
Dark Passion Play is such a great album. Probably still one of my favorites. Floor obviously very talented and deserves all the attention she gets. I think Anette Olsen doesn't get enough credit for providing vocals for this masterpiece and the album as a whole. This still stands as my favorite Nightwish song.
@@melvinthinks I would say that Dark Passion Play, Imaginarium and Dark Chest of Wonders album are the only 3 albums I can listen to all the way through. DPP and Imaginarium are both Anette albums and DCOW is a Tarja masterpiece. Floor is great and love what she is doing but I am more partial to early middle works of Nightwish. Great band in any case but if you get free time (I laughed on your behalf) suggest those 3 for full play throughs.
I've read several viewers with a similar opinion to yours re Anette. It's always a bit of a tightrope this YT stuff. Do I indulge and feast on their back catalogue (all bands - not just NW) or save for a reaction video? Still trying to figure that out!
@@melvinthinks Floor and Tarja dominant the RUclips reaction space as NW is concerned. Which is all fine they are both incredibly talented obviously. I'd say that's your call. DPP is 20 years old now, man I'm old I bought that when it came out 😭 you can always give it a listen and make it an album of week or shout out or w.e works. NW fans are crazy so I'm not gonna tell you what they want 🤣 I just think Anette gets skipped over quite a bit but she was the beautiful voice on my personal favorite albums of NW Also for back catalogs on bands that would depend on the band. If you discover Machine Head today from Of Kingdom and Crown, yeah you absolutely need to back catalog that. There is 30 years of killer music to discover that evolves and changes over time. Lorna Shore you don't need to back catalog to Tom Barber era. For the record Tom Barber LS era is great but I wouldn't suggest it. For like NW you could get by in just doing the hits. To me they have 3 bingable albums in 30 years and really the have a formula that hasn't changed a great deal over that time. Great band great music but in my opinion you can get what they are like via the hits. So back catalogs are very band dependent imo.
That's kinda how I try and tackle new, but older bands I discover. Usually, they'll have their 'classic' album/s that warrant a listen from start to end. And then there are some shockers! 😩 On some occasions, every album from a band is faultless and I try and follow their career chronologically. Other times, especially some of the classic bands, blues artists etc. you can get away with a compilation album. But I try to be careful, if listening to an album, not to follow album 1/2/3 etc in quick succession otherwise I forget which songs are on which album and it all just blurs together! I might spend a month or two listening to certain records. Sleep Token, Orbit Culture, Whitechapel, Lorna Shore, At The Gates, Tori Amos to name but a few, for me of late.
Hey bro!!!! I had a brother who killed himself. This song brokes me. But is one of the most beautyfull songs I ever hear. Thanks. Greetings from Argentina. Sorry for my English.
The last part-as I have always understood it-is the mourning of Tuomas's mother (and metaphorically, how friends and the world might experience these events). Interestingly, Marko is releasing his new album and collaborating with Tarja.
Hello Melvin! All the parts of this masterpiece have names. The part where Foor sings "be still my son...." in front of Kai Hahto and his drumkit, is called Mother and father, so basically Floor sings as Tuomas' mom. It tells how personal and deep this must be, played live at front of soldout Wimbledon 10 years after he wrote this absolutely amazing song. ..sincerely Kaisa from Finland
I'm sure Roland Garros wouldn't mind.😂. In Finland we have this hilarious word-"correcting" funktion In our phones...no matter if we want it or not. Glad I made you laugh. Usually I notice it just after pressing send-button or what ever it is called In your dictionary...Kaisa
Hahahaha! Yeah we have something called "autocorrect" in the UK. I actually made a conscious decision to turn it off about 2months ago because I spend more time correcting autocorrect than the time it saves me correcting my spelling mistakes! 😆
One of the best pieces of art of ever made and in particular this performance! This song was form the "Dark passion Play" album, first album with Anette Olson as frontwoman lead singer, so not Tarja "Master Passion Greed" is my personal favorite from the album, as it is arguably Nightwish's heaviest song and its all Marco on vocals.
This song is such an absolute masterpiece, flawlessly produced for the Wembley "Vehicle of Spirit" concert in 2015 - with the staging, the lighting, the digital screens, the emotions and intent in the singing all leading to a piece that is more theatre than metal concert. The bit that hits me most - after all the internal/external voices have battled - is the rising to a crisis point JUST before Marko comes in with his gutterals. That sense of crisis is so so intense, and if you've been there yourself you know that feeling. I'm also a lyrics person, and at 50 years old I have lost way too many frequencies in my hearing to tolerate most death metal. Though I like it. I can manage women like Tatiana or Alissa when they growl because the frequency range is more audible to me (maybe their diction is also better, I don't know) but I so very profoundly feel that if lyrics are worth writing, they are worth listening to. What is especially notable for Floor - often in her performances and especially in this one - she is very careful in the higher sections to make sure she can be understood. This is why this performance makes me think so much of musical theatre - if you are telling a story, the story needs to be heard.
Me too - I adore Tati and Jinjer and was exposed to Angela from Arch Enemy a few months back, and heard Alissa earlier this year. Despite their harsh vocals, they still enunciate their words so well. Can't wait for the new Jinjer album next year!
It's one of these songs, where you can just read the lyrics in isolation, never listen to the music, and still gain something from it. Which is POWERFUL!
One song that is also an amazing depiction of Tuomas is "Dead boy's poem" (Live in Buenos Aires). I would say that it is a bit of a different one to this one.
Sargant Emma from Nightwish's "Las Vegas chapter".... 😉 I think I missed, all (or only one???), your previous Nightwish reactions, sorry 😘...; but I'm here now. The first thing I noticed was that lovely portrait (drawing?), of Amy Winehouse...; and I KNEW I was gonna like you 😁 Btw... when the "child inside him" finishes the, "Now I only have 3 minutes and counting - monolog" ; it "ACTUALLY TAKES "THREE MINUTES" , until the "blade" gets him. Imagine writing music for so many instruments AND the angry battle between "Judas and Tuomas", (Marco and Floor); and to get it so perfecly" within 3 minutes...!!! THAT'S AMAZINGLY GOOD!! # We love Tuoumas ❤ PS: Love the reaction, fellow "soldier in the Nightwish army". 😊
Great reaction. This is a very personal song and the amount of reactors that get the meaning of this song wrong is staggering. Obviously blind auditions are better except for this song. New subscriber.😊
Thanks very much! I was pre-warned over a year ago that this song had a deep connection to the band and fans. If I went in 100% blind I think it may have lost itself on me. Welcome to the channel and thank you for subbing 😊
Marko a seasoned performer you know this when you see his eyes up front and singing while his fingers are moving up and down the fret board like nobodies business.
It's definitely up there. Not sure it is my own personal favourite, but certainly brought out a lot more emotions than anything I've heard from them to date.
I've often thought that the "oceans within" lyric was a poignant one - appreciate you noting in real time on your first listen. It's in keeping with Toumas's apparent affinity for the oceans, as he frequently references in his other works.
This was an Annette song. It's about how Tuomas felt about having to kick Tarja out the band, and the backlash he got for it (it was a unanimous band decision, but he took all the flack) Theres a demo version with Marko doing ALL the vocals floating around on the internet... The Dark Passion Play album is an absolute masterpiece, but I hope Tuomas never feels like that ever again.
I am so glad you said that. I always thought maybe it was a suicide note by Tuomas Holopainen. _"The blade fell upon him, the blade will keep on descending, Tuomas was called from the cares of the world."_ And I thought maybe Floor, previously Anette, was singing in the perspective of his mother. _"Be still, my son."_ And then I thought I was reading way too much into it, but every time I listen to it, the thought just comes floating back. I kind of thought maybe it was what he would have liked to hear from a parent, I don't know.
Shorty after this Tuomas had the vocals turned off in his earpieces when performing this song. And shortly after that he dropped the song from their set lists. It was much to personal for him to continue.
Yeah, I like that drop as well. It's a (partial) chromatic scale, which is relatively common in classical music, but much less so in contemporary. For whatever reason, it's at times used in metal, though. In spite of this song being one of my absolute favourites, regardless of artist and genre, I don't listen to it too often. I've battled depression for too many years of my life, and this one hits me at a deep level. I feel that Tuomas somehow managed to capture the inner turmoil of depression remarkably well. Regarding Tarja's name, Germanic languages and incidentally also Finnish pronounce "j" as "y" (as in "yes"). So, it's more like "TARR-yah". Don't forget to roll the r's! 😁
Well... I actually watched an interview with Tarja prior to my "Phantom..." reaction video. I won't explain why I pronounce her name that way but you should watch the intro to that reaction video 😁
Nice reaction. You really should catch up with the new album. Start with An Ocean Of Strange Island, it’s got all the elements that make Nightwish great.
Tuomas is in my opinion the greatest songwriter of our century, No other band brings out so much emotion in me. I`ve heard this song countless times and still get tears. Anette Olzen was the singer when this album came out and I really liked her vocals, not many people appreciated her, That said Floor really is the best fit for the band. Kai Hahto is the drummer now taking over for Jukka. I highly recommend doing more reactions from them as they have many more beautiful songs.
Tarja 1996-2005 (opera package) and Marko 2001-2021 (rasp package) Thanks for everything. NIGHTWISH 2.0 Floor Jansen 2012 (total package) (suggestion instead of Marko) Jari Mäenpää (almost total package)
You'll find many Nightwish fans have their favourite singers, and often sadly Anette seems to get lost in the mix. For me it goes song by song, for example Sleeping Sun will always be Tarja's. Amaranth for Anette, and I couldn't imagine the other two singers singing Lanternlight, only Floor. That's why we Nightwish fans are blessed, so many different styles of songs, three talented singers with their own interpretations of the songs they sing, and nearly thirty years of the band to enjoy.
Without me being a diehard and knowledgeable fan, I'd still say I agree with you. Every track I've reacted to thus far has had its own unique quality about it. I don't feel like I know what's going to happen from one song to the next, which as a music listener, and for a reaction video, is pure gold!
@@melvinthinks I'm actually a diehard Bessie Smith fan, but don't tell anyone. I was just lucky to discover Nightwish years ago through listening to another band Lacuna Coil. Anyway I look forwards to watching you react to more Nightwish songs, you have a long line of songs to pick from.
@@melvinthinks Tuomas has the ability to tailor the songs to the singers' bodies. Unfortunately, Anette had the misfortune that she has no classical opera training and her vocal range is a little lower than Tarja's, which caused problems for her live and gave the impression that she was a mediocre singer, her strength definitely lies more in the studio. With Floor there were suddenly no more restrictions for Tuomas and he used that for songs that he would never have been able to achieve with the other two. But with Floor, even the heaviest vocal lines still sound easy, which is why some people think he can't take advantage of Floors. He just didn't manage to really push her to her limits.
Singer at the time: This is at least in part about the debacle when Tarja was let go from the band, and the aftereffects thereof Originally this was sung by Anette
I'll be honest, there are so many bands and songs higher up my priority list at present and I only release 2-3 videos a week. I reacted to "Sons Of Winter And Stars" a year ago, and it just didn't click for me. They are good at what they do but just not my thing. I might listen to some of their stuff in my free time so I have a bigger palette to assess. But I'd rather do 10 Nightwish videos vs a Wintersun video, because I know I'm likely to enjoy it and it'll make a good video for you guys. And me 😀 But I'll never say never.
Great reaction! If you like the drummer, Kai, You really need to check the band Wintersun out. He use to be the drummer there before Nightwish. The songs Time and Sons of Winter and Stars, Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios, will blow your mind. You´re welcome ;)
Thanks Jonas! Glad you enjoyed the video. I actually did a Wintersun video to Sons of Winter And Stars... probably a year ago if I remember. Check it out if you get the chance.
If Tarja was in the band so far this song had never been written. Her dismission was the only reason for Tuomas and the band to create this art of music.
There's also a great live recording of this with Annette singing if you want to hear an older version (with Jukka on drums rather than Kai in this version) on the album Made in Hong Kong (And in Various Other Places), although no video as far as I'm aware. ruclips.net/video/Hfhhb5JNjbI/видео.html It's a fantastic piece in every version I've heard
I did Phantom Of The Opera with Tarja not that long ago. I'd rather tackle some of the NW songs I haven't heard before first, before I do the same song again, but with a different singer.
Melvin, you would LOVE "Time" by Wintersun (live rehearsal at the Sonic Pump Studios) and "Pale Morning Star" by Insomnium (lyric video). Both are stellar master pieces that will blow your mind.
Armée NIGHTWISH de France au rapport, avec un peu de retard ( beaucoup )une excellente et très bonne réaction, une vidéo puissante d'émotion. Si vous voulez écouter Kai Hahto (le Batteur ) avec son groupe précédent, je vous mets un lien ruclips.net/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/видео.htmlsi=57Hjo8K7ua2YCZWY , vous allez comprendre pourquoi on l'appelle le métronome ( la deuxième partie de la vidéo est encore plus impressionnante ), bonne écoute et à bientôt avec NIGHWISH, paix et amour sur vous........
Ghost River live from Wacken, Noise (music video), Ever Dream live from Wacken, I Want My Tears Back live from Buenos Aires and The Greatest Show on Earth pls 🙏🙏🙏
Unfortunately Annette was the singer in 2005. She wasn’t bad as long as she did the songs that Tuomos wrote for her and her limitations. When Floor joined, many songs that were dropped because Annette simply couldn’t sing them, were resurrected. (Ghost Love Score most prominently). There’s a reason why their live album with Annette gets zero plays on RUclips.
I hope you'll be reacting to Storm by Wintersun. It only has lyric video this far but it's definitely worth checking out if you're okay with harsh vocals and superb guitar playing.
Not overly convinced by Wintersun to be frank. I've got about 147 reactions I'd like to do before my next Wintersun video 😬 Fantastic at what they do. Just doesn't grab me. I may be proven wrong. But the reaction I did before, was cool, but you could see I wasn't overly enamoured by them. I won't bullshit. Just not my thing.
The song is sung by Anette... but without a doubt Floor is better... in the extras of the album there is a studio version sung completely by Marko which is wonderful. Greetings from Chile, Nightwish Army present.
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@@melvinthinks went there and watched a few times! ❤️🫶🏻
At this time Nightwish has spoiled me! 😂
And at the end when Floor starts singing about - be still my son , you’re home- those are the actual words from his mother when he went home. As someone else stated , they no longer play this song as Tuomas has moved on - but when they did play it , he had said quite often he would have to remove his ear pieces or have the sound guys cut the power off as it was so very difficult for him to listen too.
I cry
This is quite possibly the single greatest live performance of a song that I have ever seen. An incredible song, performed breathtakingly. Floor, and this band, are astonishing. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks for watching dude!
EVERY TIME, it gets me every time Floor sings “The Pacific” (part 3), it brings tears to my eyes. An absolute masterpiece!
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@@melvinthinks although it’s a very sad song, I really enjoy this sort of tears so I‘m fine! 🥰
My partner is always telling me I need to cry more. Apparently it helps 😊
@@melvinthinks yeah maybe, always depends on the type of tears hehe. Music can absolutely resonate with your body and neural system and trigger emotions, whenever a song does that it just feels so good and I love it. It’s no sadness or anything like that, it’s just pure emotion. Really feels good, kicks!
I'm not an overly emotional and tearful guy, generally speaking. But music and film definitely bring something out of me from time to time.
There are a couple of notable moments in this song that may not be immediately noticed. First, when the words "Three minutes and counting" are uttered, it is exactly three minutes until the dramatic moment when Tuomas draws his hand across his throat. Second, at the end, Emppu and Marko go to stand beside Tuomas. They, were, at that time, the only two members of the band who had been there when the whole incident with Tarja happened, and they go to stand in solidarity with him. Melvin, you did a really good job with this song. One commmenter on another reaction referred to it as "the holy grail of Nightwish songs" and I think that is right. Thank you for handling the reaction as you did.
Ahhhh. Thank you 🙏 I remember over a year ago when I first uncovered this band via Ghost Love Score. This song was heavily recommended in the comments but with a few caveats. It remained on my To Do List ever since.
I'm definitely glad I tackled this the way I did. Had I literally gone in blind I would have missed the point entirely. Sometimes doing a bit of research in advance clearly works in your favour 😊 And it's definitely up there. It's simply stunning. I'm gonna have to watch back so I can pinpoint the scenes you mentioned.
@@melvinthinksAlthough much as you enjoyed listening to Tarja, This is a song she would never have sung, as it was written about the impact of how she left the band in 2005. The original version was sung by Anette, but Floor took it to a whole new level. Not performed very often, and not since this 2015 tour.
@ecbftl yeah - that would be a bit awkward! I didn't initially know the song was linked to the exit of Tarja. I thought it stemmed solely from his own personal troubles.
Thanks for that, I didn't realise that was at 3 minutes. I was moved with how they went to support him . Would love to hear it again love but can understand why it wouldn't be ❤
The Poet and the Pendulum is the song about there 1st singer Tarja Turnunen getting fired in 2005 , HERE IS MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS - The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band at the time of this show )were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era
You can definitely feel the love and togetherness in the band during this performance.
The best ever vocals and music, that drummer is fantastic.
Kai! I forgot his name during the video. But he was a monster in this song!
@@melvinthinks That's Kai Hahto - the human metronome! He taught Jukka the jazz licks for "Slow, Love, Slow"!
@damienmaynard8892 I remember first seeing him on my Wintersun video. He's fab!
Tarja is the reason this song was written. It was actually originally sung by Annette, their 2nd vocalist. She did it much different. they may never perform this song live again. Tuomas has healed and moved on from this tragic episode in the history of Nightwish.
Some songs are meant for a moment in time and I can understand why they don't choose to play it live anymore.
Yes, exactly. You should definitely listen to Anette's renditions of this song (and others) too. She tends to be the least popular of the 3 Nightwish singers, but wrongly so and I think she's also the most underrated! Compared to Floor and Tarja, she had the least impressive stage presence and her voice was definitely very different (more pop style). But she was (and still is) a great studio musician, so my advice is to listen to the studio albums Anette produced with Nightwish, I think this is where she shines the most, this one (and other songs) have some very unique little features that I really like. For me, this alone made Anette #2 after Floor for me!
There is a demo version with just Marco singing it, too. Then they got Anette and re-recorded it.
@@TheNightstalker80 The ironic thing abut a Nightwish songs is, Tuomas wrote every song for Floor and he didn't even know it at the time
@ yes but no, yes because of course, Floors interpretations of these older songs are amazing but no, because if you listen to the older renditions you’ll notice that they evolved quite a bit, Tuomas, the Band and Floor are constantly working on their performances, Floor definitely came up with her own ideas and Tuomas liked a lot of them I think.
That depression that Tuomas felt was due to the huge fan backlash after firing Tarja in 2005, even the Finnish Prime Minister chimed in. This performance is from Wembley Arena 2015. From the 2007 Dark Passion Play album, so originally recorded with Anette. The choir did all the operatic parts then. Floor wanted to do all of them, but Tuomas wanted to keep the boy soprano in the beginning. A VERY personal song for Tuomas, he would often have the sound guys remove the vocals from his in ear mix. You see Emppu go to Tuomas early, to check on how he is doing. Emppu and Marko go over at the end in a show of support, Floor even looks over for a moment before saying 'Thank You' The last part is some of the words Tuomas' Mother said to him when he went home. If we haven't mentioned it before, whenever you hear 'poet' or 'boy' , Tuomas is usually talking about himself.
Song was partly inspired by Edgar Allen Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum". The lyric '1000 pages of erased text' I see as all the songs he would have written , had the split with Tarja not happened.
1 of 3 songs pertaining to the breakup with Tarja. "Bye Bye Beautiful" and Master Passion Greed. None of the 3 are played anymore, Master Passion Greed(Marko lead vocals)has never been played live. The music video for "Bye Bye Beautiful" often gets blocked in some countries, so if you want to hear that, suggest the remastered live version from Exit festival 2008, on Nightwish Arena channel.
Refresher, 2nd and current drummer is Kai Hahto.
TPATP is the 2nd longest song in their discography to date. Only "The Greatest Show On Earth", at 21 minutes, is longer (Live versions at Tampere 2015 and Wembley 2015).
First lyric : The End. Last lyric: The Beginning.
Come on Chris, is this all you've got for me? 😉
@@melvinthinks Sorry, I was tired after a very long day at work. 😁😝😂
I'll let you off this time 😉
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This is metal theatre. With the whole storyline, characters and progression. Oh and awesome music/vocals.
Definitely! Couldn't agree more dude.
The respect you treated this art with was inspiring! Great work man! Doing some research gave so much to this. Thank you for great insights and comments as well. Keep em coming! =)
Thanks for the great feedback! Much love back to ya and thanks for tuning in again 😊
I am someone strugling with deep depression. This band brings me joy. Not a small thing with condicion where you can not feel joy. I am so very happy that Tuomas had the emotinal strenght and artistic capability to do this instead of joining the club of all the rock/ metal/ grunge talents who could not.
This is why we need art studies AND why all need to learn at very young age about feelings, healthy self worth and (to be frank) that boys do have all feelings too because they are, in fact, humans.
😘 Music is an amazing healer and I wish you happiness and health x
Marko will forever be missed but the new album is truly a banger. That aside, this song is really special. So much emotion, it always brings me to tears
🙏 Haven't had the pleasure of hearing it yet but the NWA comments, and yourself included, have been positive 😁
@@melvinthinks The last song on the new album, Lanternlight, is one of the most beautiful and emotional songs you will ever hear. You have been warned!
@fizzyridertoo 😮
Hands down, one of the best songs ever written and one of the best performances ever....eh.... performed. Glad you got to that one mate. I'm off to dry my eyes now 😊
Definitely worth the wait. Not necessarily for you lot, but definitely for me 😆
Anette had sung most of the parts Floor sang, and the part 3 The Pacific, was sung by the choir boy, originally. But this has become the ultimate version. The pain and depression was related to having to part ways with Tarja, and the subsequent backlash. Keep exploring Nightwish, including their new album.
I've got so much material to catch up on before I get to their new record! 😆 I might have to just jump into it because otherwise it could take me years if I listen chronologically 😃
@@melvinthinksGood thing. It’s got a couple great songs & the mix on the whole album is horrible. Absolutely no rush. Catch up all you need to 👍🏻
@ascensionenergetics85 I'm sure this comment will go down well here 😆
@@melvinthinks Yup asc is right. Horrible mix overall, cutting a once in a generation vocal giant to size (at times also way to much txt/syllables she has to cram into unnatural vocal lines). Intentional artistic choice to boot, which makes it even worse. Troy, a mediocre backing singer as a prominent vocalist.. All about Tuomas' message now. NW has more or less become his solo project, disguised as a band.
@@ascensionenergetics85 Since when do we care about studio mixes? The magic happens when the band feeds of the energy of the audience. There are few exceptions to the rule where we actually advice reacting to a music video. Unfortunately we'll have to wait until the end of 2026..if we're lucky.
Only one word MASTERPIECE ❤❤
I count that as 4 words 😉
The demo version of the album 'Dark Passion Play' was recorded, obviously, after Tarja left and before Anette came. So Marko had to sing the whole demo album alone, including 'The Poet and the Pendulum'. The demo version is on YT. "Nightwish - The Poet and the Pendulum, demo version(Marco) + lyrics"
Lyrics in the description box. A few lines were left out from the final version:
Would you like to rape my rotting carcass?
Dissect my heart?
And desecrate my rest?
It would make you come, wouldn't it?
Plus some other minor changes.
Anette's version is quite good as well. Live at Wacken Open Air 2008, and Live at Gampel Open Air 2008 for example. She understands what Tuomas went through and really feels it, but she has her limitations, (operatic vocals). So I think Floor can better portray all the different emotions in this song. Floor had a burnout in 2012, she didn't want to have anything to do with music after her band broke up against her will. She had just recovered when Nightwish asked her to join the band. So I think he could relate to what Tuomas went through.
After watching this I'm not sure I want to see or hear alternative versions, because I simply don't think it can be topped!
NightWish Army Wisconsin Chapter here. Great reaction! This, to me, is the GREATEST piece of music ever written! ❤️🤘
It's definitely high up there! 😃 Cheers Kevin 👍
hey a fellow Wisconsin Nightwish enjoyer lets go!
@@naxisgamingyt9126 glad to see another Wisconsin chapter member. Rock on! 🤘🤘
Michigan Chapter here!!!
@ Rock on Brother! 🤘
Their music has such an impact on me, I love them and always amazed with their talent
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Thank you...FL❤❤R
I seem to recall thanking her at the end of the video too 😊
Yes sir. Bloody hell for a couple of places in this song. While I have been depressed for most of my life, I've never been particularly suicidal. This music lets us feel that feeling, through a screen of course. I'm grateful for the amazing mode of communication here.
Music is certainly a great healer and offers us escapism. It also can make you feel like you aren't alone in the world too.
It has been suggested elsewhere that "the shoulder" refers to other members of the band. Thus, he cannot cry on the shoulder (he cannot look to his bandmates for comfort) because they cry more.
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Bravo Melvin, keep on great Reactions :)
Long time no speak! Hope you're well and thank you once again 🙏
Guy Elliott was the boy soprano at the start. He was from St Mary's Choir School, Reigate, UK. Another boy soprano sang the part "sparkle my scenery..." on the album but Floor said that she could do it live and Tuomas agreed. If it is possible to have just one favourite Nightwish song, this is mine. So relatable. Marko sang the original demo - darker, cruder, more 4 letter words, very angry - not quite as angry or heavy as "Master, Passion, Greed" from the same point in time and feelings! The third song of the "Tarja thing" trilogy was "Bye, Bye Beautiful".
I think it is quite hard to have a favourite NW song. Everything I have done to date is a little bit different and evoke different feelings and emotions. This song definitely hits your heart the hardest, though.
Floor has such *astounding* breath control that she can sit there, in leather for F's sake, and **sing** like that! As for who I think could also sound like that? Jackie Evancho. 👍👍
this perfomance of this song is impossible to get tired of. Great reaction btw. :)
Thank you so much! 👍😊
Unfortunately, we won't hear this song live anymore. Tuomas took it off the setlist after this tour. He wanted to finally put the breakup with Tarja behind him. It's about the situation he found himself in after the breakup with Tarja. Only Marko and Empuu were still there at the time and the three of them are together at the end. The original singer was Anette.
Thanks for the info and insight 👍
A masterpiece
Not bad, is it 😜
I've been hoping for you to get back to Nightwish! Thank you. "You have such oceans within."
I've always got time for NW on the channel 😊 Thank you for the continued support 🙏
The drummers name is Kai Hahto. He comes from the finnish band 'Wintersun'. He replaces the former drummer Jukka Nevalainen because of this health issues.
I recall first seeing him perform via Wintersun. Was immediately impressed 😁
It was Anette who sang this on the album. So Tarja has never sung this song.
Yeah - I found this out after I recorded this video 😁
Thank you Melvin ! Great reaction .... Greetings from NW army .. Sweden
And thank you for watching, Bonovin 😁
Amazing Nigthwish ❤❤❤❤South Africa 🇿🇦
Thanks for watching Maggie ☺️
Good and respectful recation Melvin nice work. Oikein hävä!
Cheers very much, dude 😁👍🙏🤟
Nightwish lyrics are different. They always mean something and should be listened to.
Drummer: Kai Hahto (who replaced his friend Jukka in the band due to the latter's insomnia problems).
The original singer wasn't either Tarja (it could hardly have been Tarja!) or Floor. It was Anette Olzen.
Check out "7 Days To The Wolves" at Wembley if you haven't already. I think you'd like that.
Yeah - I found out after I made this video that is was Anette. And '7 Days To The Wolves' is on the channel if you ever get bored 😁
@@melvinthinks Yes, I checked and saw you'd done it. :)
Nice one 😄
I think if you are a metal fan and don't like this song, then you don't like metal, and that's before you start on the orchestral parts, it is soooo good. When it starts it hits you right in the gonads, well it would if I had any😊 Great reaction as usual see you for the next one🇬🇧
Hahahaha! Cheers Tracy. I like that despite is being really orchestral and quite beautiful, it still has time for some chunky riffage. I loved it.
EPIC - enough said
Sometimes less is more 😬
I must admit that I'm envious of you English speakers to be able to hear and understand every word somebody sings. Regardless, I almost cry every time I hear Floor Jansen.
I can just about speak English. Don't be envious 😉
One of the best reactions I've seen to this classic performance, thanks so much! Subscribed!
I'll take that comment any day of the week! 😁 Thank you 👍🙏
Listening to you talk about NW is just lovely. Keep at it please😊
Thanks mate! Always room for NW on my channel 😁
"Imagine someone else singing this song".
Well! On the album version it was sung by Anette Olson, tho some parts sung here by Floor were sung by a boy soprano.
And there's also a demo version sung completely by Marko because when this song was written he was the only vocalist in the band.
Just need me to try and sing it and then we'll have the ultimate dream team 😂
One of the best reactions to this Masterpiece. Thank you 😊 Grettings from northern Germany 🤘
Wow! I'll take that as a compliment 😁 Thank you, Rolf 🙏👍🤟
@@melvinthinks Many reactors dont understand this Song. But you do a little research. A question, are you scotish 😀🤘
I tend to try and do a little bit of research where I can, just out of respect for the fans. Am I Scottish? 😆 No, my friend. North London accent is what you can hear 😬
@@melvinthinks okay, Hello London boy😀🤘
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Dark Passion Play is such a great album. Probably still one of my favorites. Floor obviously very talented and deserves all the attention she gets. I think Anette Olsen doesn't get enough credit for providing vocals for this masterpiece and the album as a whole. This still stands as my favorite Nightwish song.
I've still not listened to a full length studio record yet. I've listened to some live compilation albums and mixes. Got a lot to catch up on!
@@melvinthinks I would say that Dark Passion Play, Imaginarium and Dark Chest of Wonders album are the only 3 albums I can listen to all the way through. DPP and Imaginarium are both Anette albums and DCOW is a Tarja masterpiece. Floor is great and love what she is doing but I am more partial to early middle works of Nightwish. Great band in any case but if you get free time (I laughed on your behalf) suggest those 3 for full play throughs.
I've read several viewers with a similar opinion to yours re Anette. It's always a bit of a tightrope this YT stuff. Do I indulge and feast on their back catalogue (all bands - not just NW) or save for a reaction video? Still trying to figure that out!
@@melvinthinks Floor and Tarja dominant the RUclips reaction space as NW is concerned. Which is all fine they are both incredibly talented obviously. I'd say that's your call. DPP is 20 years old now, man I'm old I bought that when it came out 😭 you can always give it a listen and make it an album of week or shout out or w.e works. NW fans are crazy so I'm not gonna tell you what they want 🤣 I just think Anette gets skipped over quite a bit but she was the beautiful voice on my personal favorite albums of NW
Also for back catalogs on bands that would depend on the band. If you discover Machine Head today from Of Kingdom and Crown, yeah you absolutely need to back catalog that. There is 30 years of killer music to discover that evolves and changes over time. Lorna Shore you don't need to back catalog to Tom Barber era. For the record Tom Barber LS era is great but I wouldn't suggest it. For like NW you could get by in just doing the hits. To me they have 3 bingable albums in 30 years and really the have a formula that hasn't changed a great deal over that time. Great band great music but in my opinion you can get what they are like via the hits. So back catalogs are very band dependent imo.
That's kinda how I try and tackle new, but older bands I discover. Usually, they'll have their 'classic' album/s that warrant a listen from start to end. And then there are some shockers! 😩 On some occasions, every album from a band is faultless and I try and follow their career chronologically. Other times, especially some of the classic bands, blues artists etc. you can get away with a compilation album. But I try to be careful, if listening to an album, not to follow album 1/2/3 etc in quick succession otherwise I forget which songs are on which album and it all just blurs together! I might spend a month or two listening to certain records. Sleep Token, Orbit Culture, Whitechapel, Lorna Shore, At The Gates, Tori Amos to name but a few, for me of late.
Nightwish Army South Carolina checking and subscribed
Cheers very much William ☺️🙏👍
Killer song, great reaction!
Thank you Jennifer!
The final verse is based on the words Tuomas's mother said to him, to help release him from his fugue state.
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Hey bro!!!! I had a brother who killed himself. This song brokes me. But is one of the most beautyfull songs I ever hear. Thanks. Greetings from Argentina. Sorry for my English.
I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope this song helps with your healing 🙏
Tuomas’s music and lyrics, Floor’s emotions, bring it to life!🎸🤘
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The last part-as I have always understood it-is the mourning of Tuomas's mother (and metaphorically, how friends and the world might experience these events).
Interestingly, Marko is releasing his new album and collaborating with Tarja.
The last verse, and l'm done. 😭😭😭
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@melvinthinks And a great reaction from you to this quite a sad classic. 👍🤘
Ahhh. Thank you. Not gonna deny this was a tough one and wanted to treat it with respect.
@melvinthinks You should turn your interest to their new album "Yesterwynde", released a month ago. It's a spectacular achievement.
Yeah - I've read a fair few online interviews with the band pre and post release. But am yet to listen to it.
Annette first sang this song on the album, she's has a great voice too.
This song will kick you right in the feels. Texas division checking in!
It's definitely the most emotional NW track I've heard so far 😪
Hello Melvin! All the parts of this masterpiece have names. The part where Foor sings "be still my son...." in front of Kai Hahto and his drumkit, is called Mother and father, so basically Floor sings as Tuomas' mom. It tells how personal and deep this must be, played live at front of soldout Wimbledon 10 years after he wrote this absolutely amazing song. ..sincerely Kaisa from Finland
correction : a soldout " Wembley Arena "
Cheers Kaisa! 👍
@joekel55 - I can't imagine them performing on a grass tennis court 😁
I'm sure Roland Garros wouldn't mind.😂. In Finland we have this hilarious word-"correcting" funktion In our phones...no matter if we want it or not. Glad I made you laugh. Usually I notice it just after pressing send-button or what ever it is called In your dictionary...Kaisa
Hahahaha! Yeah we have something called "autocorrect" in the UK. I actually made a conscious decision to turn it off about 2months ago because I spend more time correcting autocorrect than the time it saves me correcting my spelling mistakes! 😆
There is a demo of this song with Marko singing! It is so terriblely raw and painfull. It is from 2006!❤❤❤
I don't think I could handle it, Jennie 😭😭😭
My favorite part….in the end i will always love you❤❤❤❤
Which I think is also about the band/members/Tarja?
One of the best pieces of art of ever made and in particular this performance!
This song was form the "Dark passion Play" album, first album with Anette Olson as frontwoman lead singer, so not Tarja
"Master Passion Greed" is my personal favorite from the album, as it is arguably Nightwish's heaviest song and its all Marco on vocals.
Well, if there is a better version of this then I'd certainly like to see and hear it!
@melvinthinks it'd be very hard to top for sure, especially with Marco gone
I think he's irreplaceable. He's got an aura about him and he seems like a lovely guy too in the documentaries I've watched.
This song is such an absolute masterpiece, flawlessly produced for the Wembley "Vehicle of Spirit" concert in 2015 - with the staging, the lighting, the digital screens, the emotions and intent in the singing all leading to a piece that is more theatre than metal concert.
The bit that hits me most - after all the internal/external voices have battled - is the rising to a crisis point JUST before Marko comes in with his gutterals. That sense of crisis is so so intense, and if you've been there yourself you know that feeling.
I'm also a lyrics person, and at 50 years old I have lost way too many frequencies in my hearing to tolerate most death metal. Though I like it. I can manage women like Tatiana or Alissa when they growl because the frequency range is more audible to me (maybe their diction is also better, I don't know) but I so very profoundly feel that if lyrics are worth writing, they are worth listening to. What is especially notable for Floor - often in her performances and especially in this one - she is very careful in the higher sections to make sure she can be understood. This is why this performance makes me think so much of musical theatre - if you are telling a story, the story needs to be heard.
Me too - I adore Tati and Jinjer and was exposed to Angela from Arch Enemy a few months back, and heard Alissa earlier this year. Despite their harsh vocals, they still enunciate their words so well. Can't wait for the new Jinjer album next year!
🤘Keep ‘em coming! NWA Philly
I certainly try 😊
Thank you for this reaction
Thank you too!
More Nightwish pleeeeeaaaaaaase🙏❤️🤘
Let's see what Father Christmas brings 😁
For me, one of the best songs in the history of music. It's not for nothing that Tuomas is called the "Beethoven" of symphonic rock!
Its effing fucking brilliant isn't it? Wonder if YT will block my own comment for swearing?
@@melvinthinks 😂👍
The last part (mother and father) are the words said to Tuomas by his parents during one of the hardest moments of his life.
It's one of these songs, where you can just read the lyrics in isolation, never listen to the music, and still gain something from it. Which is POWERFUL!
Nicely done!❤
Thank you! 😊
One song that is also an amazing depiction of Tuomas is "Dead boy's poem" (Live in Buenos Aires). I would say that it is a bit of a different one to this one.
That's great to know. Thanks 👍
Sargant Emma from Nightwish's "Las Vegas chapter"....
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I think I missed, all (or only one???), your previous Nightwish reactions, sorry 😘...; but I'm here now.
The first thing I noticed was that lovely portrait (drawing?), of Amy Winehouse...; and I KNEW I was gonna like you 😁
Btw... when the "child inside him" finishes the, "Now I only have 3 minutes and counting - monolog" ; it "ACTUALLY TAKES "THREE MINUTES" , until the "blade" gets him.
Imagine writing music for so many instruments AND the angry battle between "Judas and Tuomas", (Marco and Floor); and to get it so perfecly" within 3 minutes...!!!
THAT'S AMAZINGLY GOOD!!
# We love Tuoumas
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PS: Love the reaction, fellow "soldier in the Nightwish army".
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Better late than never, Emma ☺️ And same can be said for me discovering Nightwish! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙏
Great reaction. This is a very personal song and the amount of reactors that get the meaning of this song wrong is staggering. Obviously blind auditions are better except for this song. New subscriber.😊
Thanks very much! I was pre-warned over a year ago that this song had a deep connection to the band and fans. If I went in 100% blind I think it may have lost itself on me. Welcome to the channel and thank you for subbing 😊
Marko a seasoned performer you know this when you see his eyes up front and singing while his fingers are moving up and down the fret board like nobodies business.
Just like I always have to have a chuckle when Tuomas is headbanging, yet still playing the keyboards perfectly.
Especially when I see myself headbang in these videos! I almost always headbutt the microphone!
Best Nightwish song forever! Anette singing original version, but this Floors is best
It's definitely up there. Not sure it is my own personal favourite, but certainly brought out a lot more emotions than anything I've heard from them to date.
I've often thought that the "oceans within" lyric was a poignant one - appreciate you noting in real time on your first listen. It's in keeping with Toumas's apparent affinity for the oceans, as he frequently references in his other works.
Tbh, there were SOOOOOOO MANY beautiful lyrical lines I wanted to pause and talk about. But the video would have probably been about 3 hrs long!
This was an Annette song. It's about how Tuomas felt about having to kick Tarja out the band, and the backlash he got for it (it was a unanimous band decision, but he took all the flack) Theres a demo version with Marko doing ALL the vocals floating around on the internet...
The Dark Passion Play album is an absolute masterpiece, but I hope Tuomas never feels like that ever again.
And 19 years later I wonder how some of those fans and critics who gave him flack feel now? Especially after hearing this song.
@melvinthinks And the new album is absolutely fantastic. Tuomas is at the top of his game again, so I'm really looking forward to AURI III
I look forward to (finally) hearing it 😊
i think Toumas doesn't get enough credit for writing and composing such amazing masterpieces that Nightwish songs
He's alright, isn't he? 😉
It wouldn't have been written before Tarja left, as it's a response to the aftermath, the fallout, of Tarja's sacking.
Which now makes a lot of sense in hindsight 😁
There is a much darker demo version only sung by marco. Great reaction
Thanks for the tip off and kind words 🙏
This is the only time you will hear this masterpiece sang live.
not true. Annette did it several times during the Dark Passion Play tour. They won't do it anymore because Tuomas overcome this lyrics
Well, from what I've read this live recording is held up pretty high by the NWA. I think it'd be hard to top this.
They played it more than once in that tour, in Amsterdam and Mexico!
Annette Olzon was the singer after Tarja and before Floor. IMHO the musical composition and lyrics were top notch during her tenure.
I think they all have their rightful place in NW history 😊
I am so glad you said that. I always thought maybe it was a suicide note by Tuomas Holopainen. _"The blade fell upon him, the blade will keep on descending, Tuomas was called from the cares of the world."_ And I thought maybe Floor, previously Anette, was singing in the perspective of his mother. _"Be still, my son."_ And then I thought I was reading way too much into it, but every time I listen to it, the thought just comes floating back. I kind of thought maybe it was what he would have liked to hear from a parent, I don't know.
Sorry. You'll have to remind me what I said? 🥴
@@melvinthinks You said you wondered if it was about the other members of the band? 20:23. 😊
Ahhhh... that makes sense now 😊
Shorty after this Tuomas had the vocals turned off in his earpieces when performing this song. And shortly after that he dropped the song from their set lists. It was much to personal for him to continue.
Fair play to the lad, it's a tough song to listen to from an outsiders perspective. Let alone when it's about you!
Yeah, I like that drop as well. It's a (partial) chromatic scale, which is relatively common in classical music, but much less so in contemporary. For whatever reason, it's at times used in metal, though. In spite of this song being one of my absolute favourites, regardless of artist and genre, I don't listen to it too often. I've battled depression for too many years of my life, and this one hits me at a deep level. I feel that Tuomas somehow managed to capture the inner turmoil of depression remarkably well.
Regarding Tarja's name, Germanic languages and incidentally also Finnish pronounce "j" as "y" (as in "yes"). So, it's more like "TARR-yah". Don't forget to roll the r's! 😁
Well... I actually watched an interview with Tarja prior to my "Phantom..." reaction video. I won't explain why I pronounce her name that way but you should watch the intro to that reaction video 😁
Nice reaction.
You really should catch up with the new album. Start with An Ocean Of Strange Island, it’s got all the elements that make Nightwish great.
Cheers very much! 🙏
Tuomas is in my opinion the greatest songwriter of our century, No other band brings out so much emotion in me. I`ve heard this song countless times and still get tears. Anette Olzen was the singer when this album came out and I really liked her vocals, not many people appreciated her, That said Floor really is the best fit for the band. Kai Hahto is the drummer now taking over for Jukka. I highly recommend doing more reactions from them as they have many more beautiful songs.
I do have a few NW reactions on the channel, but people will always want more 😊 I have a new one coming out next week so stay tuned 👍
Tarja 1996-2005 (opera package) and Marko 2001-2021 (rasp package)
Thanks for everything.
NIGHTWISH 2.0
Floor Jansen 2012 (total package)
(suggestion instead of Marko) Jari Mäenpää (almost total package)
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You're welcome 😀
You'll find many Nightwish fans have their favourite singers, and often sadly Anette seems to get lost in the mix.
For me it goes song by song, for example Sleeping Sun will always be Tarja's. Amaranth for Anette, and I couldn't imagine the other two singers singing Lanternlight, only Floor.
That's why we Nightwish fans are blessed, so many different styles of songs, three talented singers with their own interpretations of the songs they sing, and nearly thirty years of the band to enjoy.
Without me being a diehard and knowledgeable fan, I'd still say I agree with you. Every track I've reacted to thus far has had its own unique quality about it. I don't feel like I know what's going to happen from one song to the next, which as a music listener, and for a reaction video, is pure gold!
@@melvinthinks I'm actually a diehard Bessie Smith fan, but don't tell anyone.
I was just lucky to discover Nightwish years ago through listening to another band Lacuna Coil. Anyway I look forwards to watching you react to more Nightwish songs, you have a long line of songs to pick from.
Tell me about it! lol
@@melvinthinks Tuomas has the ability to tailor the songs to the singers' bodies. Unfortunately, Anette had the misfortune that she has no classical opera training and her vocal range is a little lower than Tarja's, which caused problems for her live and gave the impression that she was a mediocre singer, her strength definitely lies more in the studio. With Floor there were suddenly no more restrictions for Tuomas and he used that for songs that he would never have been able to achieve with the other two. But with Floor, even the heaviest vocal lines still sound easy, which is why some people think he can't take advantage of Floors. He just didn't manage to really push her to her limits.
It's kinda like when they say "a band is only as good as their drummer. Unless you're Metallica".
Singer at the time:
This is at least in part about the debacle when Tarja was let go from the band, and the aftereffects thereof
Originally this was sung by Anette
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Cheers for watching!
I hope you continue your journey with Wintersun with their song Time live rehearsals at Sonic Pump Studios remastered. Please and peace 🙏🏼😎✌🏼
I'll be honest, there are so many bands and songs higher up my priority list at present and I only release 2-3 videos a week. I reacted to "Sons Of Winter And Stars" a year ago, and it just didn't click for me. They are good at what they do but just not my thing. I might listen to some of their stuff in my free time so I have a bigger palette to assess. But I'd rather do 10 Nightwish videos vs a Wintersun video, because I know I'm likely to enjoy it and it'll make a good video for you guys. And me 😀 But I'll never say never.
Great reaction! If you like the drummer, Kai, You really need to check the band Wintersun out. He use to be the drummer there before Nightwish. The songs Time and Sons of Winter and Stars, Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios, will blow your mind. You´re welcome ;)
Thanks Jonas! Glad you enjoyed the video. I actually did a Wintersun video to Sons of Winter And Stars... probably a year ago if I remember. Check it out if you get the chance.
If Tarja was in the band so far this song had never been written. Her dismission was the only reason for Tuomas and the band to create this art of music.
There's also a great live recording of this with Annette singing if you want to hear an older version (with Jukka on drums rather than Kai in this version) on the album Made in Hong Kong (And in Various Other Places), although no video as far as I'm aware.
ruclips.net/video/Hfhhb5JNjbI/видео.html
It's a fantastic piece in every version I've heard
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🤗🍒🤘🏻 well done and It's time for you to go with Floor too. Listen to the song and watch the Phantom of the Opera!! If you haven't done so yet
I did Phantom Of The Opera with Tarja not that long ago. I'd rather tackle some of the NW songs I haven't heard before first, before I do the same song again, but with a different singer.
Melvin, you would LOVE "Time" by Wintersun (live rehearsal at the Sonic Pump Studios) and "Pale Morning Star" by Insomnium (lyric video). Both are stellar master pieces that will blow your mind.
I did a Wintersun video about a year ago and it didn't really click for me. Perhaps I need to give them another chance?
@@melvinthinks if you did "Sons of Winter and Stars" it's a bit over the top for me, too. "Loneliness (Winter)" (lyric video) is truly beautiful.
This is good to know - thanks!
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Cheers for watching Marinaa 😊
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Thank you for watching 😊
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Cheers for watching!
Armée NIGHTWISH de France au rapport, avec un peu de retard ( beaucoup )une excellente et très bonne réaction, une vidéo puissante d'émotion. Si vous voulez écouter Kai Hahto (le Batteur ) avec son groupe précédent, je vous mets un lien
ruclips.net/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/видео.htmlsi=57Hjo8K7ua2YCZWY , vous allez comprendre pourquoi on l'appelle le métronome ( la deuxième partie de la vidéo est encore plus impressionnante ), bonne écoute et à bientôt avec NIGHWISH, paix et amour sur vous........
Cheers Daniel 😊👍
Ghost River live from Wacken, Noise (music video), Ever Dream live from Wacken, I Want My Tears Back live from Buenos Aires and The Greatest Show on Earth pls 🙏🙏🙏
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Unfortunately Annette was the singer in 2005. She wasn’t bad as long as she did the songs that Tuomos wrote for her and her limitations. When Floor joined, many songs that were dropped because Annette simply couldn’t sing them, were resurrected. (Ghost Love Score most prominently). There’s a reason why their live album with Annette gets zero plays on RUclips.
I can't comment as not hear her at all, but she seems to get the bronze medal from most NW fans I've read on comments.
I hope you'll be reacting to Storm by Wintersun. It only has lyric video this far but it's definitely worth checking out if you're okay with harsh vocals and superb guitar playing.
Not overly convinced by Wintersun to be frank. I've got about 147 reactions I'd like to do before my next Wintersun video 😬 Fantastic at what they do. Just doesn't grab me. I may be proven wrong. But the reaction I did before, was cool, but you could see I wasn't overly enamoured by them. I won't bullshit. Just not my thing.
The song is sung by Anette... but without a doubt Floor is better... in the extras of the album there is a studio version sung completely by Marko which is wonderful. Greetings from Chile, Nightwish Army present.
Thanks buddy!
Annet was the singer
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🥹 indeed. I finally know why this has such a deep connection with the band and fans now. Almost 14 months after my first Nightwish reaction.