Line Driver, Bass Processor, Equalizer, Crossover, & DSP for Amplifier... Choose Right!
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- There are many devices that allow you to control the signal out of a source unit going into your amplifiers for a car audio system. Line Drivers, Bass Processors, Equalizers, Crossovers, and Digital Signal Processors, but what do you need for your system? In this video I explain each to better help you choose!
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Great breakdown. This was worth every cent. Wait I didn't pay for it. I feel like I should have. Keep up the great work.
Absolute facts
The ability to take the D series amplifier and wire everything into one box, no rca's (if using stock deck), no distribution blocks, no mazes, no need for a big & complicated amp rack, just one neat and tidy install with all of the adjustability (other than Epicentre of course) is just really, really appealing for that clean look. Not to mention, easy to troubleshoot if it's only one piece of equipment.
Excellent video! After watching, I think my planned system is missing a piece.
I'm hooked on your channel, been binge watching 2 weeks straight. Keep up the informative work you provide.
Same same..although my audio guy has F it all up to sell me shitty products replacing Mark Levinson.
It's great that you make these videos and the build you did for your dad's car was nice and simple. Could you one day make a budget build that provides amazing sound using some easy cost-effective equipment? As some of the components that you tend to showcase are not very affordable to everyone like me. I know you pretty much get what you pay for but there has to be a middle ground / budget-friendly for those of us on a tight budget but still want some amazing sound in our vehicles. is this even possible to achieve? or am I just reaching for the stars...
Speechless! Bravo 🎉 So much more helpful than the other 10 videos I watched!😓
Great job explaining the differences.
I've always wanted to up my audio knowledge and this helps, thanks!
There was very little content on their products in terms of reviews. I've been waiting on reviews a while now. Their site was the only means of getting info. Great job !
I just recently apprecially purchase their product and my favorite part of the whole experience was when I needed assistance I called their support number and the first ring I got a real person who assisted me with real advice not answering machine not a robot not BS hold a person an actual person that knew what they were doing to help me that's why I'm a customer for life
Marks knowledge + video tutorials = mind blown !!! Thanks Jedi Master ..
Great video! I really enjoyed the way you explained these things. I always struggle with explaining signal processing/Time alignment, etc. to anyone. From now on I will just show them this video. Shouldn’t be too many questions after that. I learned a few things about Audiocontrol’s “D” series processors and amplifiers, too. I’ve always been a user/believer in the epicenter, and Audiocontrol products in general and don’t see that changing anytime in the near future!
Holly crap my heads spinning and hurting now thanks?!
Your keeping our spirits up with this fun video Mark. Keep it up and stay safe and healthy!😊👍🏻👏👏👏
You know what I've always thought I was pretty good with systems...... Then I met your channel ☠ your channel is boss love how you have the ability to break down all the more expensive things I couldn't ever get around to figuring out thanks for the info
I just purchased a ‘22 $60k vehicle that sounds worse than my ‘90 stock Mustang! I haven’t needed to upgrade beyond factory for a cool minute! However, now i’m going to need a full blown re-education in car audio and THIS channel will be my professor!
I’ve been using audio control epicenter since 2003 it’s just awesome!!
Just got my LC2i for my system build. Can’t wait to get the rest so I can install it all.
in 1981 my dad bought plastic box KRACO 5" speakers for his work truck with something called a CONCORD tape deck, no amp none of all these expensive things in the video, just speakers to the tape deck,it rocked.
I've always had questions about processing I really appreciate this video.
I like the precision in your concise explanation
Thanks Mark!! I was totally unaware they had all these different items. I was having trouble deciding what to get when I thought they only had 4 or 5 different things and now I'm WAY WAY worse off because they make so much rad stuff. So thanks for that, appreciate it. LoL. Jokes aside I did learn a bunch more about what they offer and have a better idea of what to get now so I do appreciate that! Few people have said comments on prices and how high they are but if u think about it they are not that much. Find any other company and build a system that sounds as good with the features and all the sick a$$ tech they have and that looks as good and has such a small foot print for install options and add up what you would need to spend then. Thats if you can find anything that comes close to what they have put out I mean. Not a easy task!
Great video as always.
What I would like, and I think many people more is this: I have a fairly new car of 2019, (not really interesting but it's a Skoda Octavia stationwagon) and it has quite crappy audio, dab+ (which I really like, we have a really good dab+ network in the Netherlands) and Bluetooth connectivity. But cheap speakers and cheap amplifier. And no line outs. I would like to see a video how to use a standard main unit and change main speakers and maybe add a subwoofer. And on a budget since most people can't afford all the equipment you use. (i like the audio control lc2 you mentioned, it's affordable)
Would be great!
Thank you so much for this. This is informative yet easy enough for a novice to gain from this presentation.
Gracias Señor....There is not such a great and explanatory video like this one...not even in spanish....I was looking forward a video like this one in spanish and it doesnt exist....thanks amigo....
I got confused and just hooked my speakers straight to the battery so they would have enough power! Works great! But really thanks for the videos your the man!
I think it's safe to say AudioControl spends A LOT of money on R&D (maybe too much!)
It's really cool that Audiocontrol is stil alive!
I still have a pair of good old EQT's and one 24XS at home.
Of course i also have an old Analyzer and it's still working like a charm althought i don't use it anymore.
Maybe i'll build a good old school system some day.
btw. I really like your videos! I watch them all :)
Yeah, I didn't realize they were that old. I remember every other old school brand from the 80s and 90s, but don't remember AC! What kinda rock was I livin under? Lol...
I hate these videos and here is why:
I used to be a car audio nut, always had custom gear in my vehicles, and home. I left a job 5 years ago, and have spent all my time taking care of my disabled mother - very tiny income from doing some graphic design and as a gear nerd (hardware, electronics, items in general) I watch this video and only feel like poo because I can't afford it. I will be looking for work again here soon but the first 6 months of my money will go to my mothers house to restore it.
I love care audio, quality and thump, I just miss it, and am jealous I can't have it LOL.
CarAudioFabrication keep up the great videos. They are very educational and useful to those that need the education. GG ♥
Thanks Mark that clears things up somewhat for me. Btw great show me and my son have learned a lot. Your work quality along with what 5 star is doing is second too none.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I was thinking about adding an EQ to my system and wasn't sure about it. I am now!
Amazing straight forward clear explanation 💎💎
Really love Audio Control's Epicenter 👍
I'm trying to find a way to tune the epicenter with the lc7i
This is very informative and helps answer a lot of my questions about my build.
Great video! You are a born teacher Mark. Great rundown of AudioContol gear!
I have the DDX9905s and the Alpine PDX F6 plus M12 mono.
Now the Kenwood can get to full volume with no distortion but has 5v pre-outs where the 4 channel F6 amp accepts a maximum input of 4v.
Now would there be any issues here or should I raise the volume on the head unit using the test tones until I see a max of 4v from the RCA's?
Thanks in advance!
Don't overthink it. Plug it in and set your gains so it's loud enough for your normal listening levels without clipping if you decide to crank it up here and there. Setting gains by voltage alone are likely to yield poor results. Just because your amp accepts "4v max" inputs, doesn't mean it can't go higher or that you're actually sending more than 4v into it at all times. Just turn down the gain on your amp if it's too much. I know they say the amp gain is not a volume knob, but it actually is, in the same manner as the volume knob on your head unit controls the gain of its internal amplifier.
@@vitaminb4869 Never had an issue before but being told different things.
I can understand if you have 8v pre out max or higher but something with 5v max shouldn't have issues as you stated especially since music is dynamic and it ain't no sine wave being used.
Don't have a distortion detector or handheld oscilloscope but know the head unit is clean at max volume from online vids but would be using ohms law to get the desired wattage or AC voltage output from the amps.
From there I'll throw in some decent quality music and see how it all sounds.
Thanks for the reply!
@@tee_tow If you never had an issue before and all was and is working well, then I wouldn't touch a thing just because someone somewhere on the internet said that it's all wrong.
You don't need a distortion detector. You can easily hear distortion and clipping. I tried setting my gains with an oscilloscope and a sine wave, but didn't like the results and just set it by ear.
@@vitaminb4869 Yeah I here yah.
Haven't installed in a couple of years and never had issues then especially with "decent" quality equipment.
Not my car but don't really see many issues between these components, just wanna be on the safe side.
That's just it i've asked a couple of Pros from workshops and one said to match the head unit voltage and the other said not to worry about it as the difference is marginal 🤷♂️
But I will start with correct AC voltage coming out of the amps to suit the wattage that I want to match the speakers using a dmm then after listening sessions will adjust from there as usual.
Thanks again!
I’m really enjoying your channel ! Thank you for the Professionalism. As a result of my viewing today, I think I might Abandon my current plan for my Van.
I have (planned) 2-way Components in ‘cockpit’, and 3-way Components in rear main van body, NO sub (for a while), and directed off of a 4ch Pioneer HU output.
If I relied upon included Passive crossovers from speaker manufacturer, I COULD get by with a moderate quality 4ch Class D amp.
** BTW, my listening preference is exclusively Fidelity/SQ orientation.
As a result of your relevant videos, I’m torn between powering Each piece of the components with an amplified channel (=10ch.), which might be cost-prohibitive (for decent gear).
Alternatively, 4ch of amplification to the ‘four corners’, with (tuning) from a DSP (8 or 10ch ?).
Or …. ?? (ANY input would be AWESOME).
I love the separation that can be achieved through components. Oh, and I do Not want to have to alter my vehicle electronics (i.e. Alternator).
I would be THRILLED to get a Reply 😬
Man I'm glad you're doing this.
Your videos are always well explained, now that I finally bought a laptop I can go ahead and get a dsp
I have an lc2i with factory radio going out to 1 amp for bass & then 2 amps to 2 different boxes with mid ranges and tweeters on them .
Great video bro…. I’m well informed ( as usual)…. Keep it up… the Jedi of car audio installation 😁
Great explanations, lessons, videos...thanks & keep up the
great work.
Great video mark, always learning something new every time 👍👍👍👍👍
My Epicenter is white, if that gives you any idea as to how OLD that bad boy is... Still ticking (I mean booming) though :)
I hate a white EQX!
@@CarAudioFabrication 😂 It definitely is an eyesore, but it's out of sight.
anthonyr i think he might have meant to say “I have a white EQX” lmao
@@maxstormann9512 Lol touche... kinda works both ways 🤷♂️😂
Had mine since 2005 white
Audiocontrol used to make a model called the ESP-3
it's a center channel/spatial enhancement processor that was very cool
I just accidentally swapped to android headunit as i can't use any universal one. Now i wat to improve source sound quality. What is your take on this?
Im still using phoenix gold pld1 and basscube
I love the audiocontrol products , in my car I have a overdrive an epicenter and the 2xs crossover, and I have the matrix for my next build
I have a epicenter and want to get the matrix did u put the matrix before the epicenter or after
Very informative, I like it. I do prefer just going with an eq, a crossover and multiple amps tho.
Me too man.
Awesome video explaining, took me a lot of research and reading to work out that instead of having a panel full of units all i needed was a good dsp to achieve most of whats needed for quality sounding system. Settled on a Helix P Six mk2 dsp-amp and a Helix M One X Mono Amp for the subs, still installing it all but i got high hopes for it all running Hybrid Audio Technologies speakers.
All of that stuff looks so professional and cool, great video
If you had a an aftermarket headunit such as a kenwood or whatever with 13 band eq or more, could you just tune the response with an RTA and the built in eq?
I want something old school and have knobs to play with
Tom Petty? Sound City?
Maybe you can make a recommendation for my planned setup. Pioneer FH-S700BT receiver, Pioneer GM-DX874 4 channel amplifier, and a Kicker 46CXA1200.1T mono amplifier. The 4 channel amplifier will power 4 Pioneer 6.5" 4 way coaxials, and the mono amplifier will power 2 12" subwoofers. A line driver makes sense due to the low output voltage from the receiver, but anything else that's got that ability plus more would be great.
Best video to explain this ever!! So awesome. Thanks!!
What is another good substitute for the Overdrive plus, its discontinued 🤧
Please do an in depth video on the DQ-61
Excellent teacher!!!! Thanks!
So if wanted to restore bass, get a stronger audio signal, and control the equalizers, then I would need 3 different devices?
Thanks Mark. Excellent overview.
Another great dish from the Kitchen
Really appreciate your video so much detail
Great video. Lots of information here and well explained. Keep up the great content man. Very helpful for many of us.
Thank you so much, Mark. Your videos have taught me all I know about car audio. It appears The Epicenter functionality is not built in to the DSP. Is it as simple as connecting the RCA subwoofer outputs from the DSP into The Epicenter and The Epicenter outputs into the sub amp?
So essentially I can either use LC2i and epicenter or simply go for epicenter plus and get the same quality of sound? (I am using the factory head unit).
Thanks for the information.
Is there such thing as a crossover device that has a hard cutoff rather than a gradual one? For example, cutting off all frequencies above the set value rather than a gradual decrease. Or would an equalizer be the closest thing to achieving this?
Please do a cost video, what a regular upgrade to wake your neighbours up type of system would cost
Very well explained, thank you.
I use helix dsp 3 mosconi aerospace nak dads zapco hdv asp q01 be with dap but audio controls are great for ease of use beginner's and good guys in Seattle they don't make crap
I don't like the dsp and amp all in one. When the amp blows you loose way too much money. If you had a separate dsp, you would only loose your amp. Lost $1000 when my Audison Prima 8.9 bit, 8 channel amp/dsp, decided to go into fault protection mode and never turn back on.
AudioControl has a pretty rock solid warranty. Something to consider
@@CarAudioFabrication My Audison had a 3 year warranty, and the AudioControl only has a 1 year warranty, unless installed by an authorized dealer. No one here is going to have someone else install their amps, that's why they are here.
@@CarAudioFabrication I dont understand why they warranty from a dealer for 5 years, but only 1 year in you install yourself. My dad had an authorised audison dealer install his amp, and it blew 2 times after about 2 days each time. I had to rewire it myself for him, so it didnt blow the 3rd amp. They didnt have a clue. Had it wired after the factory amp, which was sending way too hot of a signal, had the bass turned all the way up on the factory stereo, which was also distorted. Didn't sum anything, just took 1 source from the amp, that was pre eqed. Horrible. Quality of work was horrible as well. That has nothing to do with audiocontrol, thats on the dealer, but they warranty those clowns for 5 years. AudioControl make great products, but one year, no thanks.
@@klubstompers yeah some brands are installs from authorized dealers, some are from certified installers. Me getting my MECP basic will solve that...
At one point in my life, regarding school, I really thought I had above average intellegence but after watching his videos, I feel below average & clueless. I wish I had a better brain to grasp acoustics like the rest of the viewers.
So which one good for helping with speakers
Hey, I know this is an old video, but where in the signal path should a line driver go?
So I need a line driver and a epicenter. Thanks!
I use an epicentre indash and an EQl in my system and cannot fault them. Hit 156.7db with 4 12inch Kenwood subs running 8000w 😎
Thanks for the clear up. But why dont they sell an EQ that is in dash on the fly? My Playlist has alot of different genre and having to adjust the sound constently.
This explains thing so good. Very informative stuff.
Can you do a video on your factory radio set up?
I was waiting this video for a long time, thank you!!!
So why do you need 8-9v of rca voltage? I’ve never understood that bc most amps max out at 6v. Some do go to 8v but there is not many. So why do you need that?
I use 8v head units to 8v dsp to Brad amps all digital or dig to analog what matters is speaker quality head unit media amps chipsets on dsps I used audio control years ago there 👌
JP Merrick yea but what about for the amps. The higher voltage is to lower the noise floor as low as possible. He was even saying some go to 10v. The sounds a bit excessive
JP Merrick I mean if you have 10v going to an amp that maxes out at 8v wouldn’t that make the amp clip?
I mean we are talking about audio controls here I've owned 200 amps own 100 now plus speakers best made for cars at the end of the day quality matters more than power the sound from a class a amp Celeste hi amps beats a high watts class d etc but in the end the helix jam chips yes a6 6 volts beats a tru class a line driver people get hung up on specs its about sound quality the borax mx4 is so quit that people say give me the try billet I have both each gets to sq a Difft way at my high end its all about tonality in the clarity and quietness then sound against windows etc most just don't know they think focal is a good speaker omg
@@Hittin2thabass yeah at the lowest gain setting you'd already overdrive the amp but not sure if the amps input circuit on that would accept it or not.
Looks like a great way to go active
Have you ever hooked a bass processor on a home stereo receiver sub out line?
And what about LC6i
0:13 makes me melt seeing this, drooling!
OVERDRIVE (AudioControl) question.. What if an aftermarket head unit only outs out 1 volt or less on the RCA outputs? Should I use the normal speaker output wires and run them through an LC6/7/8i ?
Another great video with clear and concise delivery! Your videos set the standard for car audio and there's no need to go anywhere else for car audio questions! Thanks again Mark.
What would I need for front dash speakers,rear doors,rear deck speakers??? 6 speakers.
how to setting, tune or set gain of the EQ ? only use 1ch output EQ ( subwoofer output ) to monoblock n subwoofer
Great video! You explained everything I wanted know and more.
AC R&D Team: 2 Things: I wish the LC7i's "Accu Bass" freq range starts lower than 20 Hz, like 10 or 15 Hz. Only then a lot of "Bassheads" would be inclined to take advantage of AccuBass now that more and more newer vehicles come with a high-end touchscreen factory radio such as on my Ford Edge. I also would like for the AccuBass to be optional for the other channels because now that I've upgraded my door speakers (mid-bass), I'd like to make up for the bass roll-off in them as well. I'm talking to you AudioControl R&D team! =]
Please do a video showing how to wire Crossovers, Preamps and amplifier because i need help wiring up my system with a preamp and crossover
I bought the DQ-61 only bc I don’t have a laptop LoL. I have to say Audio Control is like the Steve Jobs of car audio. They have the coolest and smartest gear.
The DSPs can be tuned with a smart phone with the add on AC-BT24
Thanks for the explanation. Helps a lot
Tons of help amigo thank you!!! learning all this is new to me..always waching your vids..awesome 👌 explaining everything very helpful thank you again God Bless..😃😀👋
Thanks man. For simplicity what do you need as a complete unit? Man this is so much...
Thanks for the break down.
im so overwhelmed with the car audio world. when he was talking about if you have a premium audio system with factory amp you might want to go with the lc7 line output converter i didnt get why that is exactly.
Because their are bandwidth limited channels like tweeters and mids that need to be summed back to full range so you can pick your own crossover points and control via your amps or EQ.
Hey Mark, As always this is an excellent video. I have a LCQ-1, it works well but there is pink noise comming from it and I can't solve it. I tried with the jumpers and checking the ground but nothing changed. Any Idea?
I have a epicenter, dsp and a amplifier. From factory head unit what goes first to last?
Do you have a video explaining what technical specs to look for when picking an amps or speakers? Signal to noise ratio, Sensitivity, THD and what not. Thanks.